roasted | hello! | 04:08 |
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roasted | Is U1's server still getting pwned by 12.04's release? I was trying to sync my pictures earlier, and I got 55 down in 6 hours... sound normal? | 04:08 |
shawncm217 | #ubuntu pointed me here. I need help with the Ubuntu One Music Store. http://askubuntu.com/questions/64039/how-do-i-manage-my-ubuntu-one-music-store-account-specifically-change-my-email | 05:03 |
roasted | ubuntu one, you and I are no longer on speaking terms. | 05:30 |
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nunzio | Hello! | 12:05 |
nunzio | there are anybody? | 12:06 |
Roasted | hello! | 13:05 |
Roasted | anybody still having ultra slow 36k style download speeds? | 13:05 |
duanedes1gn | Roasted: hello | 13:33 |
Roasted | hello | 13:33 |
duanedes1gn | Roasted: because of the release speeds hav been slower then normal | 13:34 |
duanedes1gn | emgomeers are doing what they can to improve the situation | 13:34 |
Roasted | yeah, but 50 pictures in 6 hours? | 13:34 |
duanedes1gn | yeah, its frusctrating | 13:34 |
Roasted | as long as it's normal, I'm okay with that | 13:35 |
Roasted | I just looked at it like, oh my gosh, I FUBAR'd something | 13:35 |
tizza10 | all of my ubuntuone clients are failing to sync on fresh copies of 12.04, is this just sever stress from the new release?? | 15:40 |
dobey | tizza10: if it's failing, maybe you found a bug. if it's just slow, it's probably due to the release and servers getting pounded. | 16:10 |
tizza10 | dobey, it is changing from file sync in progress to disabled without throwing out errors on both machines. | 16:13 |
dobey | disabled, or disconnected? | 16:20 |
tizza10 | Oh, the sync deamon logs have a lot of sever hash =.failure.... try again type messages | 16:21 |
tizza10 | disabled | 16:21 |
dobey | in the control panel? | 16:21 |
tizza10 | in the control panel it says disabled | 16:22 |
dobey | what locale are you using? | 16:23 |
dobey | though all the TRY_AGAIN messages in the log could be a result of server load as well | 16:24 |
tizza10 | locale? | 16:25 |
dobey | language | 16:25 |
dobey | for the user interface | 16:25 |
tizza10 | english UK | 16:25 |
tizza10 | It says File Sync is disabled on one machine | 16:26 |
dobey | hmm | 16:26 |
tizza10 | and File Sync is Disconnected in another | 16:27 |
tizza10 | But that changes to File Sync in Progress with out my intervention | 16:27 |
dobey | right, the connection probably got dropped there | 16:29 |
dobey | on the one that says disabled, is ubuntuone-syncdaemon running? | 16:29 |
tizza10 | ubuntu-one syncd? Yes | 16:31 |
dobey | can you open a terminal and run "u1sdtool -q && u1sdtool -c" please? | 16:31 |
tizza10 | Done, the control center has changed to File sync in progress | 16:34 |
tizza10 | dobey, I have to go. Will pick up later if your about? | 16:39 |
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cc11rocks | Running Ubuntu 12.04. Ubuntu One won't finishing syncing. The notification keeps popping up saying that it's syncing a number of files. | 19:03 |
dobey | "X and 199" other files? | 19:06 |
cc11rocks | Yes dobey | 19:10 |
dobey | cc11rocks: it is syncing, but there is a bug you're hitting. if you have more than 200 files to transfer, you will keep seeing that notification until there are less than 200 files left to transfer | 19:11 |
dobey | but the files are synchronizing just fine | 19:11 |
cc11rocks | So they are all there? | 19:20 |
cc11rocks | Is there any way to get rid of the bug? | 19:20 |
dobey | you can disable notifications in the control panel | 19:26 |
cc11rocks | Okay, thanks | 19:30 |
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JanC | is there any chance U1MS will ever gain a reasonable selection of music? | 21:02 |
JanC | appart from the fact my prefered payment solution has been broken all the time (despite a bug report from an U1 manager filed even before the U1MS official release...) | 21:04 |
JanC | currently U1MS seems to be a joke/mess (depending on which PoV you look at it) | 21:06 |
dobey | JanC: the world store is unlikely to get a "reasonable selection," thanks to the wonderful record companies. are you in a country which gets the world store? | 21:26 |
JanC | dobey: I'm in Belgium, so that's the European store, I guess | 21:26 |
JanC | even then, Canonical should try to fix his | 21:27 |
JanC | dobey: think about it this way: currently Belgian Ubuntu users have about 5% chance to find Belgian artists in that store it seems | 21:29 |
dobey | JanC: are they available on http://fr-be.7digital.com/ at all? | 21:30 |
JanC | remember most people in Belgium don't speak French... ;) | 21:31 |
JanC | but I'll checkj | 21:31 |
dobey | well, nl-be.7digital.com then | 21:31 |
dobey | for the other half | 21:32 |
dobey | or en-be if that works, though i doubt it does | 21:32 |
JanC | dobey: seems like that (at least some of) music *is* available on those sites | 21:33 |
JanC | so this is really a U1MS issue? | 21:34 |
dobey | well, we are working on a way of getting some more region-specific stores on-line; hopefully all of them | 21:35 |
czajkowski | dobey: oh thats good to hear | 21:35 |
czajkowski | dobey: always find it annoying when in ireland I want to buy a tune and have to wait till I go back to UK in most cases to buy it | 21:35 |
czajkowski | even for some irish stuff which is most annoying | 21:36 |
dobey | but be glad you're not stuck on the world store :) | 21:36 |
dobey | czajkowski: why is that? | 21:36 |
czajkowski | dobey: I know at xmas time I wanted to buy music for godaughter as we were going for a drive and I couldnt as the musi wasnt available to buy in that country, 2 days later tried it in the UK and no problem | 21:37 |
czajkowski | was told different stores. | 21:37 |
dobey | czajkowski: well, adding more stores won't solve that problem, if IE already has a separate store. | 21:38 |
JanC | one of the artist I've been using to research this is Selah Sue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selah_Sue | 21:39 |
dobey | JanC: and what preferred payment solution are you talking about? | 21:40 |
JanC | dobey: Maestro | 21:40 |
JanC | dobey: it only supports UK Maestro, and leaves others with a form that doesn't work... | 21:41 |
dobey | czajkowski: or is .ie going to the world or EU store? | 21:41 |
JanC | dobey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-music-store/+bug/632890 ;) | 21:42 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 632890 in ubuntuone-music-store "Payment problems using Maestro Card" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:42 |
dobey | JanC: ah. i suppose that is a 7d problem. does it have the same problem on http://nl-be.7digital.com/ ? | 21:43 |
JanC | dobey: I never tried to buy music there | 21:44 |
JanC | but I doubt it would work ;) | 21:45 |
dobey | JanC: are you currently paying for extra storage or streaming on U1 with maestro? | 21:45 |
JanC | no | 21:45 |
JanC | why would I need extra storage at all? :P | 21:46 |
dobey | maybe you want to have your existing music, or videos, or photos, or who knows whatever else, synced via u1 | 21:46 |
JanC | I have my own VPS with 180 GiB of disk space | 21:47 |
JanC | which costs me 15 € / month | 21:48 |
JanC | so really why would I bother ;) | 21:48 |
JanC | but I'm interested in buying music some time in the future | 21:49 |
dobey | to provide a useful data point about whether the card works through that payment system or not. | 21:49 |
JanC | dobey: it works when I pay inside SEPA | 21:50 |
dobey | also, have you tried purchasing a song on u1ms, and just ignoring the from and 3 digit security code fields? | 21:50 |
dobey | i have no idea what SEPA is | 21:50 |
JanC | dobey: I did in the past, haven't tried recently | 21:51 |
JanC | dobey: the point is that in the past this was some UK proprietary variant of Maestro | 21:52 |
JanC | so unless there was some change there, it's unlikely to work | 21:52 |
dobey | well i don't know if there was a change there or not | 21:52 |
JanC | SEPA = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area | 21:52 |
dobey | i'm not in europe, i don't have any maestro cards :) | 21:52 |
JanC | basically, it's like a money transfer | 21:53 |
dobey | and i can't say if it will work when it does change in the future | 21:53 |
JanC | and free or very cheap | 21:53 |
dobey | yes i know how debit cards work | 21:53 |
dobey | how the basic premise of the maestro card works is not relevant though. | 21:54 |
dobey | JanC: have you bought anything on the ubuntu store recently? | 21:55 |
JanC | no | 21:55 |
JanC | I guess I could try a test buy on U1MS some day | 21:56 |
JanC | 1 of the suggestions I might make: there are online payment brokers that actually *do* support all sorts international payment systems | 21:57 |
JanC | of course they are a bit more expensive than what is used now... ;) | 21:58 |
JanC | but I don't care about that if they actually work :P | 21:59 |
dobey | well it's the weekend. and i have other things to do. so bye :)d | 22:00 |
JanC | dobey: right, but I think some discussion about U1MS future is really needed | 22:01 |
JanC | because currently it's actually listed as a disadvantage for Ubuntu | 22:01 |
JanC | (at least outside the UK & the US) | 22:01 |
JanC | see czajkowski's experiences also | 22:02 |
JanC | dobey: and of course the payment issue is completely unrelated to the unavailability of music issue ;) | 22:07 |
JanC | I mean, if 7d has the music, it should be available in U1MS too, at least | 22:08 |
JanC | (even if 7D lags behand already...) | 22:08 |
JanC | ehind | 22:08 |
JanC | *behind* | 22:08 |
JanC | I think Canonical should turn U1MS into a universal music store for everybody who doesn't have or wants access to iTMS | 22:14 |
JanC | either with or without the help of 7D | 22:15 |
JanC | but the current approach is really doing more harm than anything else... :-/ | 22:16 |
JanC | actually, looking further in 7D, they seem to have lots of Belgian artists that aren't available in the U1MS | 22:19 |
JanC | albums like this: http://nl-be.7digital.com/artist/sarah-ferri/release/ferritales | 22:20 |
JanC | you really want this in the U1MS right now, because now is when it gets promoted on national radio etc. | 22:23 |
* JanC doubts anybody at UbuntuOne really understands the music market... :-( | 22:24 | |
dobey | JanC: i don't think you understand what it takes to build a music store. if it were trivial, we'd have done it already. so relax. we are working on making it better. | 22:32 |
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