[04:08] <roasted> hello!
[04:08] <roasted> Is U1's server still getting pwned by 12.04's release? I was trying to sync my pictures earlier, and I got 55 down in 6 hours... sound normal?
[05:03] <shawncm217> #ubuntu pointed me here. I need help with the Ubuntu One Music Store. http://askubuntu.com/questions/64039/how-do-i-manage-my-ubuntu-one-music-store-account-specifically-change-my-email
[05:30] <roasted> ubuntu one,  you and I are no longer on speaking terms.
[12:05] <nunzio> Hello!
[12:06] <nunzio> there are anybody?
[13:05] <Roasted> hello!
[13:05] <Roasted> anybody still having ultra slow 36k style download speeds?
[13:33] <duanedes1gn> Roasted: hello
[13:33] <Roasted> hello
[13:34] <duanedes1gn> Roasted: because of the release speeds hav been slower then normal
[13:34] <duanedes1gn> emgomeers are doing what they can to improve the situation
[13:34] <Roasted> yeah, but 50 pictures in 6 hours?
[13:34] <duanedes1gn> yeah, its frusctrating
[13:35] <Roasted> as long as it's normal, I'm okay with that
[13:35] <Roasted> I just looked at it like, oh my gosh, I FUBAR'd something
[15:40] <tizza10> all of my ubuntuone clients are failing to sync on fresh copies of 12.04, is this just sever stress from the new release??
[16:10] <dobey> tizza10: if it's failing, maybe you found a bug. if it's just slow, it's probably due to the release and servers getting pounded.
[16:13] <tizza10> dobey, it is changing from file sync in progress to disabled without throwing out errors on both machines.
[16:20] <dobey> disabled, or disconnected?
[16:21] <tizza10> Oh, the sync deamon logs have a lot of sever hash =.failure.... try again type messages
[16:21] <tizza10> disabled
[16:21] <dobey> in the control panel?
[16:22] <tizza10> in the control panel it says disabled
[16:23] <dobey> what locale are you using?
[16:24] <dobey> though all the TRY_AGAIN messages in the log could be a result of server load as well
[16:25] <tizza10> locale?
[16:25] <dobey> language
[16:25] <dobey> for the user interface
[16:25] <tizza10> english UK
[16:26] <tizza10> It says File Sync is disabled on one machine
[16:26] <dobey> hmm
[16:27] <tizza10> and File Sync is Disconnected in another
[16:27] <tizza10> But that changes to File Sync in Progress with out my intervention
[16:29] <dobey> right, the connection probably got dropped there
[16:29] <dobey> on the one that says disabled, is ubuntuone-syncdaemon running?
[16:31] <tizza10> ubuntu-one syncd? Yes
[16:31] <dobey> can you open a terminal and run "u1sdtool -q && u1sdtool -c" please?
[16:34] <tizza10> Done, the control center has changed to  File sync in progress
[16:39] <tizza10> dobey, I have to go. Will pick up later if your about?
[19:03] <cc11rocks> Running Ubuntu 12.04. Ubuntu One won't finishing syncing. The notification keeps popping up saying that it's syncing a number of files.
[19:06] <dobey> "X and 199" other files?
[19:10] <cc11rocks> Yes dobey
[19:11] <dobey> cc11rocks: it is syncing, but there is a bug you're hitting. if you have more than 200 files to transfer, you will keep seeing that notification until there are less than 200 files left to transfer
[19:11] <dobey> but the files are synchronizing just fine
[19:20] <cc11rocks> So they are all there?
[19:20] <cc11rocks> Is there any way to get rid of the bug?
[19:26] <dobey> you can disable notifications in the control panel
[19:30] <cc11rocks> Okay, thanks
[21:02] <JanC> is there any chance U1MS will ever gain a reasonable selection of music?
[21:04] <JanC> appart from the fact my prefered payment solution has been broken all the time (despite a bug report from an U1 manager filed even before the U1MS official release...)
[21:06] <JanC> currently U1MS seems to be a joke/mess (depending on which PoV you look at it)
[21:26] <dobey> JanC: the world store is unlikely to get a "reasonable selection," thanks to the wonderful record companies. are you in a country which gets the world store?
[21:26] <JanC> dobey: I'm in Belgium, so that's the European store, I guess
[21:27] <JanC> even then, Canonical should try to fix his
[21:29] <JanC> dobey: think about it this way: currently Belgian Ubuntu users have about 5% chance to find Belgian artists in that store it seems
[21:30] <dobey> JanC: are they available on http://fr-be.7digital.com/ at all?
[21:31] <JanC> remember most people in Belgium don't speak French...  ;)
[21:31] <JanC> but I'll checkj
[21:31] <dobey> well, nl-be.7digital.com then
[21:32] <dobey> for the other half
[21:32] <dobey> or en-be if that works, though i doubt it does
[21:33] <JanC> dobey: seems like that (at least some of) music *is* available on those sites
[21:34] <JanC> so this is really a U1MS issue?
[21:35] <dobey> well, we are working on a way of getting some more region-specific stores on-line; hopefully all of them
[21:35] <czajkowski> dobey: oh thats good to hear
[21:35] <czajkowski> dobey: always find it annoying when in ireland I want to buy a tune and have to wait till I go back to UK in most cases to buy it
[21:36] <czajkowski> even for some irish stuff which is most annoying
[21:36] <dobey> but be glad you're not stuck on the world store :)
[21:36] <dobey> czajkowski: why is that?
[21:37] <czajkowski> dobey: I know at xmas time I wanted to buy music for godaughter as we were going for a drive and I couldnt as the musi wasnt available to buy in that country, 2 days later tried it in the UK and no problem
[21:37] <czajkowski> was told different stores.
[21:38] <dobey> czajkowski: well, adding more stores won't solve that problem, if IE already has a separate store.
[21:39] <JanC> one of the artist I've been using to research this is Selah Sue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selah_Sue
[21:40] <dobey> JanC: and what preferred payment solution are you talking about?
[21:40] <JanC> dobey: Maestro
[21:41] <JanC> dobey: it only supports UK Maestro, and leaves others with a form that doesn't work...
[21:41] <dobey> czajkowski: or is .ie going to the world or EU store?
[21:42] <JanC> dobey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-music-store/+bug/632890  ;)
[21:43] <dobey> JanC: ah. i suppose that is a 7d problem. does it have the same problem on http://nl-be.7digital.com/ ?
[21:44] <JanC> dobey: I never tried to buy music there
[21:45] <JanC> but I doubt it would work  ;)
[21:45] <dobey> JanC: are you currently paying for extra storage or streaming on U1 with maestro?
[21:45] <JanC> no
[21:46] <JanC> why would I need extra storage at all?  :P
[21:46] <dobey> maybe you want to have your existing music, or videos, or photos, or who knows whatever else, synced via u1
[21:47] <JanC> I have my own VPS with 180 GiB of disk space
[21:48] <JanC> which costs me 15 € / month
[21:48] <JanC> so really why would I bother  ;)
[21:49] <JanC> but I'm interested in buying music some time in the future
[21:49] <dobey> to provide a useful data point about whether the card works through that payment system or not.
[21:50] <JanC> dobey: it works when I pay inside SEPA
[21:50] <dobey> also, have you tried purchasing a song on u1ms, and just ignoring the from and 3 digit security code fields?
[21:50] <dobey> i have no idea what SEPA is
[21:51] <JanC> dobey: I did in the past, haven't tried recently
[21:52] <JanC> dobey: the point is that in the past this was some UK proprietary variant of Maestro
[21:52] <JanC> so unless there was some change there, it's unlikely to work
[21:52] <dobey> well i don't know if there was a change there or not
[21:52] <JanC> SEPA = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area
[21:52] <dobey> i'm not in europe, i don't have any maestro cards :)
[21:53] <JanC> basically, it's like a money transfer
[21:53] <dobey> and i can't say if it will work when it does change in the future
[21:53] <JanC> and free or very cheap
[21:53] <dobey> yes i know how debit cards work
[21:54] <dobey> how the basic premise of the maestro card works is not relevant though.
[21:55] <dobey> JanC: have you bought anything on the ubuntu store recently?
[21:55] <JanC> no
[21:56] <JanC> I guess I could try a test buy on U1MS some day
[21:57] <JanC> 1 of the suggestions I might make: there are online payment brokers that actually *do* support all sorts international payment systems
[21:58] <JanC> of course they are a bit more expensive than what is used now...  ;)
[21:59] <JanC> but I don't care about that if they actually work  :P
[22:00] <dobey> well it's the weekend. and i have other things to do. so bye :)d
[22:01] <JanC> dobey: right, but I think some discussion about U1MS future is really needed
[22:01] <JanC> because currently it's actually listed as a disadvantage for Ubuntu
[22:01] <JanC> (at least outside the UK & the US)
[22:02] <JanC> see czajkowski's experiences also
[22:07] <JanC> dobey: and of course the payment issue is completely unrelated to the unavailability of music issue  ;)
[22:08] <JanC> I mean, if 7d has the music, it should be available in U1MS too, at least
[22:08] <JanC> (even if 7D lags behand already...)
[22:08] <JanC> ehind
[22:08] <JanC> *behind*
[22:14] <JanC> I think Canonical should turn U1MS into a universal music store for everybody who doesn't have or wants access to iTMS
[22:15] <JanC> either with or without the help of 7D
[22:16] <JanC> but the current approach is really doing more harm than anything else...  :-/
[22:19] <JanC> actually, looking further in 7D, they seem to have lots of Belgian artists that aren't available in the U1MS
[22:20] <JanC> albums like this: http://nl-be.7digital.com/artist/sarah-ferri/release/ferritales
[22:23] <JanC> you really want this in the U1MS right now, because now is when it gets promoted on national radio etc.
[22:24]  * JanC doubts anybody at UbuntuOne really understands the music market...  :-(
[22:32] <dobey> JanC: i don't think you understand what it takes to build a music store. if it were trivial, we'd have done it already. so relax. we are working on making it better.