[01:44] <imbrandon> SpamapS: ahhhh i'm an idiot :)
[01:44] <imbrandon> ( not that that is new )
[01:46] <imbrandon> re: better apple testing , we dont use any of the gui stuff , brew et.al is cli  , apple cli + kernel == darwin , darwin == opensource w/ iso installers and will work on and VM platform
[01:47] <imbrandon> in other words i can installed 10.6 10.7 and 10.8 clean environments to match the commercial countarts minus the gui. but i dont care about that infact its good its not in my way
[01:49]  * imbrandon gets started, then will worry about a place to house the VM's , maybe if it works out well canonical will put them in the DC ( in a DMZ so non employess like me can admin / etc ) cuz iirc even bzr has an official apple package, could be used for lots of cross breed stuff
[01:49] <imbrandon> plus sounds like a fun challange
[01:51]  * imbrandon wonders if there is a Debian Mach-O distro, since there was/is a GNU Hurd one , and a Solaris one i wouldent doubt it 
[01:51] <imbrandon> heh
[06:56] <imbrandon> halp! heh, how do i get out of this error
[06:56] <imbrandon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/954360/
[06:57]  * imbrandon will be glad if marcoceppi is up warly today
[06:57] <imbrandon> easy*
[12:35] <tog> hi imbrandon
[12:37] <imbrandon> hello tog
[12:38] <imbrandon> give me justa  few here, i got a website burning to the ground with a few thousand visitors
[12:38] <imbrandon> active atm
[12:38] <imbrandon> then we'll get ya fixed up
[12:38] <imbrandon> be done in ~15 or 20 min toops i hope
[12:38] <tog> ok no pb
[18:27] <_mup_> juju/debug-relation-hook-context r534 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com
[18:27] <_mup_> Add missing invoker.start call
[19:02] <jimbaker> the above commit fixed the issue that adam_g saw, just need to put a test together for this one-line change
[19:06] <imbrandon> jimbaker: should i snag it into the osx package , or wait for that >
[19:07] <imbrandon> its at 532 now
[19:24] <jimbaker> imbrandon, it should not have anything to w/ osx - it's a fix for the unit agent
[19:25] <imbrandon> ahhh kk
[19:25] <imbrandon> thats why i was askin
[19:25] <imbrandon> :)
[19:26] <imbrandon> if i needed to bother , basicly
[19:27] <jimbaker> imbrandon, no worries - glad someone is working on the osx client side
[19:27] <imbrandon> i guess i should lurk on a list if there is one, jimbaker is there any kind of juju release list other than the normal mailing list ?
[19:27] <imbrandon> jimbaker: heh well i may not be the best at it , but i'm something for now :)
[19:27] <jimbaker> imbrandon, that's really it - not everything is announced there however. following code seems to be the best approach at this time :)
[19:28]  * imbrandon will feel much better when the go client is ready, just not that confident in python :)
[19:28] <imbrandon> jimbaker: rockin, yea i've just been kinda eyeballin the code and my normal hangin in here :)
[19:29] <imbrandon> sounds good for now, not like there is 5 a week or something
[19:29] <imbrandon> and if i'm a few hours behind no one gonna notice likely ( although m_*3 ) has access too "just in case" for bus rule
[19:29] <jimbaker> imbrandon, well i think following the merges into trunk & corresponding bugs doesn't requre too much python knowledge - we do try for a reasonably detailed commit message for example. plus the merge proposals are much more detailed too
[19:30] <imbrandon> ahhh yea, and i'm not uber terrible, else i wouldent have volenteered :) just a tad outside the comfort zone tho, but thats not always bad
[19:31] <imbrandon> keeps ya on your toes
[19:31] <jimbaker> imbrandon, :)
[19:31]  * imbrandon will stick with the black sheep php for day to day :)
[19:32] <imbrandon> hrm, thinks i'm gonna find me a nice snack, its stroming here still , good time to sit on the porch and listen to the thunder, its the only time i'm "outdorsey" hahaha
[19:32] <imbrandon> back in a bit
[20:26] <imbrandon> *just thinking out loud* Hrm, I wonder if , even as popular as Brew is if it would not be more beneficial both short and long term to whip a little Make/shell build script up that would basicly just be a thin vale with a tiny bit of extra logic for the platform arround setup.py ( to make sure zookeeper is installed bacsicly , other than that setup.py should use the systems easy_install to get the other deps if i'm not mistaken
[20:26] <imbrandon> )
[20:26] <imbrandon> and have that in with the offical package
[20:27] <imbrandon> hrm ... , maybe both? one option for the many that already have brew installed and are comfortable with it, and those who arent simpley download the official juju and run install.sh themselfs
[20:28]  * imbrandon contemplates it a bit before emailing the list
[22:18] <adam_g> SpamapS: you around by chance?
[22:35] <SpamapS> adam_g: I am
[22:36] <SpamapS> adam_g: just hiding from the Joshua Tree heat in my air conditioned room :)
[22:39] <adam_g> SpamapS: :)
[22:39] <adam_g> SpamapS: im at a loCo release party, was gonna demo juju but the mediawiki charms seem broken?
[22:40] <SpamapS> adam_g: mediawiki has definitely bitrotten a bit
[22:40] <adam_g> SpamapS: seems to not do antyhing with the database after a relation is added, other than create the juju specific table
[22:40] <SpamapS> adam_g: phpmyadmin, thinkup, statusnet, all seem ok in precise
[22:41] <adam_g> SpamapS: wordpress seems a bit wonky too, after adding haproxy
[22:41] <SpamapS> adam_g: yeah I need to take a look at it, There's a new mediawiki version out too that has a much better cli installer
[22:41] <SpamapS> adam_g: yeah wordpress is broken because of the Host: header
[22:41] <SpamapS> adam_g: imbrandon and marco are adressing that in the turbocharged WP charm that they're working on
[22:42] <adam_g> ok
[22:43] <SpamapS> adam_g: we def need to sit down and write real tests for the charms to make sure they actually work :)
[22:43] <SpamapS> meant to have that done by 12.04 release but I suspect it will get done in the next few weeks
[22:50] <SpamapS> adam_g: also I think we are going to add some new optional values to the HTTP interface so that we can get the Host: handling right on loadbalancers and proxies of various types
[22:50] <SpamapS> anyway, time for a nap
[22:51] <imbrandon> SpamapS: yea i figured i was going to do that for mine this week but then the contest came so i wanna fiinish a few more and will likely do the "proper" tests for all of them not just the ones i care about late at uds or just after
[22:51] <imbrandon> l8tr
[23:40] <hazmat> is omgubuntu serving media from s3 or cloudfront?
[23:45] <hazmat> feels like s3