[03:20] <pleia2> wow, summaries are done :)
[03:20] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: great!
[03:20] <JoseeAntonioR> I'll start translating in a few hours
[03:21] <pleia2> not ready for that yet
[03:21] <JoseeAntonioR> when reviewing is done :P
[03:21] <pleia2> we had a lot of new folks this week so I'll need to do a fair amount of editorial review tomorrow morning before I move to the wiki
[03:21] <pleia2> but I should be able to get the email off to editors by 20:00 UTC or so
[03:21] <JoseeAntonioR> great, just tell me when it's the moment to
[03:22] <pleia2> will do :)
[04:01] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: Still with the idea of #u-learning?
[04:39] <philipballew_> welcome back cuz!!!
[05:27] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: yeah, I've been lurking on the idea for years :) won't let go so easy
[05:28] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: I'll start taking some screenshots for the installation manual :)
[06:00] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: could you update this while you're at it? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[06:00] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: of course!
[06:01] <pleia2> I figure that will be the data sheet we use for the class anyway
[06:02] <JoseeAntonioR> ok - I'll finish with the installation screenshots and then I'll go for it
[06:04] <pleia2> I don't actually know how these edits are coordinated, it looks like this page is done for 10.04, so maybe they update it for LTS releases
[06:04] <JoseeAntonioR> then, it's time to edit it
[06:05]  * pleia2 fires off a quick email to confirm protocol for edits
[06:05] <pleia2> I mean, it's a wiki, I just want to make sure we don't step on toes :)
[06:05] <JoseeAntonioR> exactly - just tell me when you get an answer
[06:11] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: I've changed some things as the download link, and added an MD5SUM and burn as slowly as possible to the steps
[06:11] <JoseeAntonioR> people are always complaining about them
[06:12]  * pleia2 nods
[06:14] <pleia2> ok, email off
[06:14] <JoseeAntonioR> :)
[06:16] <pleia2> heading off for the evening, have a good night :)
[06:17] <JoseeAntonioR> you too! :)
[07:36] <s-lion> morning
[15:51] <pleia2> running out for a couple hours, when I get back I'll do some review of the doc and then start moving stuff to the wiki
[18:37]  * pleia2 returns and works on review
[18:43]  * bkerensa heads to downtown for release party
[18:43] <bkerensa> :D
[18:43] <bkerensa> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-or/1609/detail/    (48 RSVP's and growing)
[18:43] <bkerensa> :D
[18:44] <pleia2> have fun :)
[18:45]  * philipballew wonders how bkerensa does it
[19:35] <Silverlion> hey folks
[19:36] <JoseeAntonioR> Hi, Silverlion!
[20:15] <pleia2> ok, that took longer than I thought :)
[21:08] <pleia2> MrChrisDruif: can you have a peek at the email from phill when you have a chance? if it's all correct just a thumbs up is fine :)
[21:09] <MrChrisDruif> I've seen it, been working
[21:09] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: all stats and security stuff is in and I've sent a note off to editors so hopefully they'll be popping in soon to do review
[21:10]  * nlsthzn got a bonus two extra nights to work... so sorry...
[21:10] <MrChrisDruif> I've been discussing something about it in a thread over @ the docs-mailing list about this subject
[21:10] <MrChrisDruif> I made a suggestion, but no confirmation afair
[21:11] <pleia2> MrChrisDruif: the holistic approach thread?
[21:11] <MrChrisDruif> Yes
[21:11] <pleia2> yeah, I thought that was about changing approach, so I was just hoping for whatever are "current best practices"
[21:13] <pleia2> we can adjust later as needed, it's just currently a bit unclear how to help
[21:14] <MrChrisDruif> I think making pages holistic *is what we should do*, but then again information about how stuff used be done might get lost in the transition
[21:14] <MrChrisDruif> I think if you move stuff release specific down on the page and make it as holistic as possible is a good way to go for now
[21:15] <pleia2> makes pages like the one for the installer huge and take a while to load due to all the images
[21:16] <MrChrisDruif> Got a link?
[21:16] <pleia2> anyway, I guess this isn't the place for that discussion, I just need some kind of answer at some point so we can help contribute back instead of rewriting everything in a vaccuum (we don't want to be another ubuntu manual)
[21:16] <pleia2> the one in the email, let me grab it
[21:16] <pleia2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[21:17] <pleia2> phill said to copy it to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall_10.04 and update it for 12.04
[21:21] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, but in the discussion it was suggested to move them to /<release>/<pagename> so that would make it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidLynx/GraphicalInstall
[21:22] <MrChrisDruif> I'm acquiring in #ubuntu-doc about this right now
[21:23] <pleia2> sorry, I read the thread, I was just trying to figure out what we do *now*, not what proposals are happening
[21:23] <pleia2> we can wait to help until things are decided if it'll be soon
[21:24] <MrChrisDruif> Here's my latest suggestion, but no one has picked it up: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2012-April/016589.html
[21:24] <pleia2> I know, as I've said, I've read it
[21:25] <pleia2> so should we just wait to contribute until a decision is made?
[21:28] <MrChrisDruif> I'm hesitant to call this one on my one (I've only just become member of the docs team)
[21:29] <MrChrisDruif> own*
[21:29] <pleia2> ok
[21:30] <pleia2> bkerensa: ^^ for reference, this is why everyone complains about trying to contribute to -docs
[21:30] <MrChrisDruif> O_O
[21:30] <pleia2> MrChrisDruif: nothing against you of course :) it's just like this every time I try to help
[21:31] <pleia2> I worked with jim campbell one UDS to try to help with the "getting involved" docs, but it never went anywhere
[21:31] <MrChrisDruif> If it was just me, I'd say "group them all under one happy release page and make the new one holistic"
[21:31] <pleia2> everyone complains that people contribute to ubuntu-manual, but contributing to ubuntu-docs is hard :(
[21:32] <pleia2> I dunno, since the official help.ubuntu.com docs are split between versions that does make a fair amount of sense, but I get that some stuff doesn't change between releases
[21:33] <pleia2> anyway, I don't want to actually get involved in docs policy :) I'm just an end user contributor who wants to help and doesn't know how
[22:52] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: great, moving on