[01:23] <JonEdney> Ugh, trying to update to 12.04 LTS via SSH (remote VPS), and the screen is stuck on Configuring console-data
[01:23] <virusuy> no response ?
[01:24] <JonEdney> No, it's wanting me to select keymap, but my keyboard isn't responding.
[01:24] <virusuy> urghhh, any kind of web-console ?
[01:24] <virusuy> or any other way to interact with your VPS ?
[01:24] <JonEdney> Yeah, I have console access through my host.
[01:25] <virusuy> oh, nice then
[01:25] <virusuy> take a look at your web-console, and see if you can choose your keymap from there
[01:25] <JonEdney> Alright
[01:27] <JonEdney> Web console isn't work, but I'm able to log int to a second SSH connection, should I try to restart the install?
[01:29] <virusuy> uhmm
[01:29] <JonEdney> It dont seem as there is any damage, Apache is still working properly.
[01:30] <virusuy> you could do that
[01:30] <JonEdney> Let's give it a shot!  Worst case scenerio, I reinstall everything!
[01:31] <virusuy> JonEdney: yeah, but you know, that scenario is not the happiest one
[01:31] <virusuy> :)
[01:31] <JonEdney> True it is not.  This VPS has been a project for me, it's my first Linux experience.
[01:32] <virusuy> oh
[01:32] <virusuy> a hint
[01:32] <JonEdney> Nothing really on it, as long as it dont melt I'm happy lol
[01:32] <virusuy> Lol
[01:32] <virusuy> a tip
[01:32] <virusuy> install screen
[01:32] <virusuy> and use it on this kind of task
[01:33] <virusuy> it will help you some times, for example, updating and losing your connection
[01:33] <virusuy> you log-in again and re-connect with your screen (in the screen where your task was running )
[01:33] <JonEdney> Screen is a program?  I've never heard of it.
[01:33] <virusuy> yes
[01:33] <virusuy> let me find you some info
[01:34] <JonEdney> Let me search for it in the software centre
[01:34] <virusuy> It's available on official repositories
[01:34] <virusuy> http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/screen/
[01:34] <virusuy> here's man page for Screen
[01:34] <JonEdney> Ah great, let me check this out.
[01:34] <virusuy> it's really easy to use and really useful
[01:35] <virusuy> and believe me (i manage around 160 linux servers) , this will really help you
[01:35] <JonEdney> Ah great, I'll install this and check it out.
[01:35] <virusuy> :)
[01:36] <JonEdney> Thank you.
[01:36] <virusuy> JonEdney: you're welcome !
[01:46] <vinhdizzo> my ubuntu upgrade to 12.04 failed.  i have my system chrooted right now.  when i do apt-get update, i get this error: 21% [Working]FATAL -> Could not set non-blocking flag Bad file descriptor E: Method http has died unexpectedly! E: Sub-process http returned an error code (100) .  .  When i force upgrade, i get dpkg-preconfigure: unable to re-open stdin: No such file or directory Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts
[01:46] <vinhdizzo> any suggestions?
[01:54] <JonEdney> Well, I think the upgrade was a bust LOL
[01:54] <virusuy> JonEdney: really ?
[01:55] <JonEdney> I didn't understand the screen program, so I went back in via SSH  and restarted the install, and it continued.
[01:55] <JonEdney> When it was done, it said upgrade was done.
[01:55] <JonEdney> So I rebooted, was unsure if it needed it.
[01:55] <JonEdney> Still waiting on it lol
[01:55] <virusuy> cross your fingers :-P
[01:56] <JonEdney> Thats about it.
[01:56] <JonEdney> Losing hope, restarted it 5 minutes ago.
[01:56] <virusuy> :S
[01:56] <JonEdney> It's an unmanaged VPS, so I have no way to see any errors.
[01:56] <virusuy> what about web-console?
[01:57] <virusuy> can you see errors there ?
[01:57] <JonEdney> No, says container not running.
[01:58] <virusuy> uhmmm
[01:58] <virusuy> no ping, no ssh ?
[01:59] <JonEdney> Nope, it's offline.  I'm going to try and sent a boot request.
[01:59] <JonEdney> Ugh, immediately goes offline
[02:00] <virusuy> ugh
[02:00] <virusuy> :(
[02:00] <JonEdney> Killed it lol
[02:01] <JonEdney> All I had on it was Apache and such, so it wont take long to bring it back.
[02:01] <virusuy> alright then
[02:02] <JonEdney> Appreciate your help virusuy!
[02:02] <virusuy> JonEdney: you're always welcome man
[02:02] <virusuy> i'll be here almost all day , so .. you can ping me if you need help
[02:03] <JonEdney> I was introduced to Ubuntu about 2 months ago, and have been a fanatic since, I just keep wanting to learn more and more.
[02:03] <virusuy> That's the way man
[02:03] <virusuy> learn something new everyday
[02:03] <virusuy> Ubuntu community its awesome, not only here in ubuntu-server, but in general, awesome people, a lot of knoledge
[02:04] <virusuy> knowledge*
[02:04] <JonEdney> I work for a web hosting company, so this is really helping with my understanding.
[02:04] <JonEdney> I've really noticed.
[02:04] <virusuy> JonEdney: really? wich one ?
[02:04] <JonEdney> A2 Hosting
[02:04] <virusuy> do you have VPS ?
[02:04] <JonEdney> Yeah, managed and unmanaged
[02:05] <virusuy> oh, i'm checking your website
[02:05] <JonEdney> Cool, got any questions let me know.
[02:05] <virusuy> cool man, thank you
[02:36] <stiv2k> hi
[02:37] <JonEdney> Anyone know where the 12.04 server install error log would be kept?  I just upgraded 11.10 to 12.04, and it says upgrade complete but with errors.
[02:41] <stiv2k> i remember my ubuntu server used to have a colorized console
[02:41] <stiv2k> but its not colorized anymore! what could have happened?
[04:04] <stiv2k> anyone alive here?
[04:05] <virusuy> stiv2k: hey
[04:06] <stiv2k> virusuy hey do you see my question
[04:08] <virusuy> stiv2k: which one ? sorry
[04:08] <stiv2k> 22:42 < stiv2k> i remember my ubuntu server used to have a colorized console
[04:08] <stiv2k> 22:42 < stiv2k> but its not colorized anymore! what could have happened?
[04:08] <virusuy> uhmm let me find
[04:08] <virusuy> 'cos you can set that up easly
[04:11] <virusuy> in your .basrch you can find something like this
[04:11] <virusuy> # set a fancy prompt (non-color, unless we know we "want" color)
[04:11] <virusuy> case "$TERM" in
[04:11] <virusuy>     xterm-color) color_prompt=yes;;
[04:11] <virusuy> esac
[04:15] <virusuy> or more easey
[04:15] <virusuy> easy
[04:16] <virusuy> in your .basrch
[04:16] <virusuy> bashrc*
[04:16] <virusuy> force color, uncomment the line force_color_prompt=yes
[04:17] <virusuy> then you should close your terminal, and open it again
[04:17] <virusuy> stiv2k:
[04:35] <stiv2k> hi
[04:35] <stiv2k> thanks virusuy !
[04:35] <virusuy> stiv2k: you're welcome
[04:36] <stiv2k> hmm
[04:36] <stiv2k> i dont have a .bashrc though?
[04:36] <virusuy> you should
[04:36] <virusuy> in your home folder
[04:36] <stiv2k> i dont
[04:36] <EvilResistance> unless you're not using bash
[04:36] <virusuy> EvilResistance: good point
[04:36] <stiv2k> uh
[04:36] <EvilResistance> if you use zsh, its .zshrc, if its something else, dont ask me :P:
[04:36]  * EvilResistance won't know
[04:36] <stiv2k> i mean
[04:37] <stiv2k> ubuntu server uses bash by default???
[04:37] <stiv2k> of course im using bash!
[04:37] <EvilResistance> stiv2k:  ls -al ~
[04:37] <EvilResistance> see if .bashrc shows up in that
[04:37] <EvilResistance> (by default, its hidden, because of the ., so standard ls doesn't show it)
[04:37] <stiv2k> no it does not
[04:37] <stiv2k> just .bash_history
[04:37] <stiv2k> and other files
[04:38] <stiv2k> i think thats why i dont have colorization
[04:39] <stiv2k> other users accounts on my machine have a .bashrc but i seem to have accidentally removed mine or something
[04:39] <virusuy> oh
[04:39] <virusuy> nice
[04:39] <virusuy> :-P
[04:39] <virusuy> well , as root you can copy .bashrc from others home folder
[04:39] <virusuy> and change permissions
[04:39] <stiv2k> hmm
[04:39] <stiv2k> is there a real default one somewhere else in the system
[04:40] <stiv2k> like /etc/
[04:40] <virusuy> yes
[04:40] <virusuy> in /etc
[04:40] <virusuy> you can find
[04:40] <virusuy> bash.bashrc
[04:41] <virusuy> but
[04:41] <virusuy> i don't know if thats a default file
[04:42] <stiv2k> ok
[04:44] <stiv2k> ok i fixed it
[04:47] <stiv2k> thanks virusuy EvilResistance
[04:55] <virusuy> stiv2k: you're welcome
[05:15] <stiv2k> virusuy my server has been up for 256 days :)
[05:16] <virusuy> wooho !!
[05:16] <virusuy> server of ?
[05:16] <virusuy> web? bd? mail?
[05:17] <stiv2k> http://stats.stiv2k.info
[05:17] <flaccid> my ubuntu 8.04 in us-east-1 is like over 800 days now hehe
[05:18] <stiv2k> web, irc, bittorrent, ssh,
[05:18] <stiv2k> um
[05:18] <stiv2k> i forget what else it runs
[05:18] <stiv2k> it runs BOINC 24/7
[05:18] <flaccid> at least phpsysinfo is a bit tidier these days. you should checkout ohai :)
[05:18] <stiv2k> i will :)
[05:19] <flaccid> and collectd/rrd for metrics
[05:19] <flaccid> is those load averages real, you must have it working hard
[05:19] <flaccid> oh its an atom
[05:19] <stiv2k> flaccid url to ohai?
[05:19] <stiv2k> yes it runs BOINC 24/7
[05:19] <stiv2k> computing for science
[05:19] <stiv2k> its a netbook!
[05:20] <virusuy> wow
[05:20] <virusuy> ATOM N270
[05:20] <stiv2k> acer aspire one ZG5
[05:20] <stiv2k> is the netbook
[05:21] <virusuy> nice
[05:21] <virusuy> i will set up a HTPC soon
[05:21] <virusuy> and will be my webserver/mailserver/htpc/bittorrent
[05:21] <flaccid> stiv2k: just search chef ohai or something like that. its part of chef but its portable/standalone
[05:21] <stiv2k> ok
[05:22] <flaccid> heh if the netbook hasn't blown up yet, nice work y0 hehe
[05:22] <stiv2k> yeah
[05:22] <stiv2k> when i first set it up i was concerned about overheating
[05:22] <stiv2k> i was considering removing the LCD and palm reast and installing an 80mm fan or something
[05:22] <virusuy> 94% memory usage ?
[05:22] <virusuy> wow, thats alot
[05:22] <stiv2k> its all cached mem i think
[05:22] <stiv2k> anyhow
[05:22] <stiv2k> after the first 30 days or so of no problems i just left it alone
[05:23] <stiv2k> it seems to be handling the load fine
[05:23] <stiv2k> virusuy yea its 35% cached
[05:23] <virusuy> stiv2k: nice then
[05:23] <stiv2k> 47% kernel
[05:23] <stiv2k> its so stable, i love it
[05:24] <stiv2k> i havent rebooted it once yet
[05:24] <stiv2k> since the day i set it up
[05:24] <stiv2k> i dont even know if my /etc/fstab is properly setup because i never rebooted to test
[05:24] <virusuy> lol
[05:24] <virusuy> you should check out that now
[05:24] <stiv2k> so i dont know if it will automatically mount the external HDD upon bootup
[05:24] <stiv2k> where my /home is
[05:25] <stiv2k> virusuy all i got is
[05:25] <stiv2k> UUID=e583c246-f145-4821-9d82-2a1710aa7d14 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[05:25] <stiv2k> UUID=66aa7d2b-2805-47a3-9f18-2b8d2ace60a2 /home           ext4
[05:25] <stiv2k> the / is the netbook's 8GB solid state disk
[05:25] <stiv2k> /home is an external 320GB usb drive
[05:26] <virusuy> well
[05:26] <stiv2k> flaccid what is chef?
[05:27] <flaccid> stiv2k: system integrations framework
[05:27] <stiv2k> and i cant see a screenshot of what it looks like or anything
[05:28] <virusuy> brb
[05:29] <flaccid> stiv2k: screenshot? its not a web app
[05:30] <stiv2k> flaccid oh
[05:30] <flaccid> suprised someone hasn't done a json/yaml to xml then done xslt or simliar though, would be powerful
[05:30] <stiv2k> then i think i'll stick with phpsysinfo :)
[05:30] <stiv2k> btw
[05:30] <stiv2k> http://stiv2k.info/files/pics/server/P9251610.JPG  << my server :)
[05:30] <stiv2k> i moved it from that location
[05:30] <stiv2k> but the setup is essentially the same still
[05:30] <flaccid> stiv2k: gem install ohai then run the command ohai and then observe how much more info you get over phpcrapinfo
[05:31] <stiv2k> flaccid lol ok, you convinced me
[05:31] <flaccid> not saying its a replacement for phpsysinfo, its something else
[05:31] <stiv2k> i see
[05:31] <stiv2k> gotta install gem
[05:32] <stiv2k> it wants to install 72 packages :S
[05:32] <flaccid> sweet
[05:32] <stiv2k> meh
[05:33] <flaccid> welcome to the new world :)
[05:34] <stiv2k> new world?
[05:34] <flaccid> yes
[05:35] <stiv2k> like when christopher colombus landed in america?
[05:36] <flaccid> like when people realized its 2012 and php is lame
[05:36] <stiv2k> php isn't lame...
[05:36] <stiv2k> i've used it for years
[05:37] <flaccid> i've used it since it was invented.
[05:37] <stiv2k> heh
[05:43] <linocisco> i want to have ubuntu DVD with full packages like VPN, DHCPD which normal installer CD or iso do not include
[05:43] <linocisco> where can I get?
[05:46] <flaccid> linocisco: if its not on the dvd you are sol
[05:46] <flaccid> unless you make your own
[05:47] <erect> flaccid, what is sol?
[05:47] <flaccid> shit out of luck
[05:47] <erect> flaccid, I dont know how to download DVD for free
[05:48] <flaccid> neither do i unless you have a free internet connection
[05:48] <virusuy> back
[05:49] <erect> flaccid, link please
[05:50] <flaccid> for?
[05:50] <virusuy> flaccid and erect, what a nice combination
[05:50] <erect> flaccid, link to DVD
[05:50] <stiv2k> virusuy http://stiv2k.info/files/pics/server/P9251610.JPG <<< my server
[05:50] <erect> virusuy, i made it nice to see interesting
[05:51] <virusuy> stiv2k: nice! probably next month i'll bought a new laptop (Lenovo edge e420) and my actual notebook (Dell inspiron 1525) will be my new server
[05:51] <virusuy> :-D
[05:51] <flaccid> erect: you have never seen the download page on the site?
[05:51] <erect> flaccid, yes. I never saw
[05:51] <flaccid> virusuy: it not legit. linocisco changed nicknames.
[05:52] <virusuy> flaccid: i see
[05:52] <stiv2k> virusuy i used to have a desktop pc as my server, it ran for about 4 years non stop, when i finally took it out of service it was beat to shit.... all capacitors were leaking and the cpu fan was nearly dead
[05:52] <stiv2k> under 100% load
[05:52] <stiv2k> the whole time
[05:52] <virusuy> wow
[05:53] <stiv2k> http://stiv2k.info/files/pics/server/P9131609.JPG <-- the day i took it out of service
[05:53] <stiv2k> http://stiv2k.info/files/pics/server/P9131607.JPG
[05:53] <virusuy> lol
[05:54] <virusuy> dust, dust everywhere
[05:54] <stiv2k> yeah
[05:54] <stiv2k> i never dusted it out
[05:54] <flaccid> erect: its pretty easy to find if you can actually navigate a website, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[05:54] <stiv2k> i actually STILL use that machine
[05:54] <stiv2k> even with those capacitors like that
[05:54] <stiv2k> its now the pc in my repair shop
[05:54] <erect> flaccid, is it for desktop , right? I am looking for server version
[05:54] <virusuy> oh, it's alive ?
[05:55] <virusuy> i thought it was dead
[05:55] <stiv2k> no virusuy
[05:55] <stiv2k> it works fine
[05:55] <virusuy> wow
[05:55] <stiv2k> i took it out of service because it was incredibly noisy
[05:55] <flaccid> erect: its ubuntu. its for whatever
[05:55] <stiv2k> (the fan)
[05:55] <stiv2k> and
[05:55] <virusuy> stiv2k: caused by dust
[05:55] <virusuy> obviously
[05:55] <stiv2k> yeah
[05:55] <stiv2k> it also consumes a lot of power (my estimates about 150W)
[05:55] <stiv2k> i was looking for a more energy efficient solution
[05:56] <stiv2k> this netbook power supply is rated for only 30W :)
[05:56] <flaccid> http://mirror.eftel.com/ubuntu-dvd/12.04/release/
[05:56] <virusuy> :)
[05:56] <erect> flaccid, I want to make sure if it includes software like DHCPD, VPN, squid a standard installer iso does not have. I dont need or want language pack
[05:56] <flaccid> erect: you might have to download it then. i can't tell you what it includes.
[05:57] <erect> flaccid, ok. thanks
[05:58] <flaccid> personally i generally use netinst for any manual installs by media
[05:59] <linocisco> flaccid, here is the place where internet is bad or slow
[06:00] <flaccid> bit torrent helps there
[06:00] <flaccid> dhcpd, vpn and squid would not be large in size to download though
[06:00] <flaccid> but ubuntu can't provide you good internet sorry
[06:01] <linocisco> flaccid, ok thanks bro.
[06:02] <linocisco> hi all, what are new features on 12.04 LTS server version compared to previous versions?
[06:02] <flaccid> read the release notes
[09:15] <linocisco> anybody from Tirana?
[11:06] <airtonix> i guess the people from Tirana would be.
[12:03] <MatBoy> hi guys
[12:03] <MatBoy> why is scst not integrated into Ubuntu ?
[14:29] <JonEdney> Is 11.10 server downloads still available?
[14:30] <JonEdney> I'm having a problem with upgrading 11.10 to 12.04 on my VPS< so I wanted to install it on a VM to see if i receive the same issues.
[14:30] <mardraum> I see them on my local mirror.
[14:31] <mardraum> what exact problem are you having?
[14:31] <JonEdney> I have a VPS at a web host, unmanaged VPS so I have to handle everything myself, running 11.10.  I ran the upgrade command, and it says installed but with errors.
[14:32] <JonEdney> First attempt, crashed my VPS, had to reinstall 11.10.  2nd attempt didn't, but indicated server was running 11.10, but when i ran updates, it was pulling info for 12.04
[14:32] <JonEdney> So I'm trying recreate it so I can try and see what is going on.
[14:32] <mardraum> what command did you run?
[14:33] <JonEdney> I believe it was do-release upgrade if I recall.
[14:34] <JonEdney> Then we found out my VPS is running kernal 2.6.x and 12.04 needs 3.2.x.  SO I'm unsure if 12.04 is stupposed to upgrade that for me (it did on desktop)
[14:34] <mardraum> yes, it is.
[14:35] <mardraum> can you pastebin the errors you got?
[14:36] <JonEdney> It didn't list the errors in the console (had to do this via SSH, only access I have).
[14:36] <JonEdney> I tried seeing if there was an installation error log, but couldn't locate one.
[14:36] <JonEdney> Currently, I put my VPS back to 11.10 so I could get it back up.
[14:37] <patdk-lap> normally, you can't upgrade the kernel of a vps
[14:37] <patdk-lap> that is why it's a vps and not a vm
[14:38] <patdk-lap> JonEdney, also, 11.10 uses a 3.0 kernel. not 2.6.x
[14:38] <JonEdney> Maybe thats the problem then, I'm unsure.  I was just going to wait until the host offers 12.04 LTS as an install option.
[14:38] <JonEdney> Really?
[14:38] <JonEdney> I'm running 11.10, and when i checked the kernel version, it was 2.something
[14:38] <patdk-lap> I'm not saying that 3.0 is required, but that is what 11.10 will install
[14:38] <JonEdney> Interesting.
[14:39] <patdk-lap> well, my 10.04 vps was running on a centos 2.6.18 kernel
[14:39] <patdk-lap> and the vps people said 10.04 was supported, so wrong
[14:39] <JonEdney> lol
[14:39] <patdk-lap> well, 10.04 worked, but a crapload of the stuff I needed, required a later kernel
[14:39] <JonEdney> Right.
[14:40] <JonEdney> I"m currently working on getting my hands on a spare PC (never really needed one), and running my server from my house so I can have ultimate control.
[14:41] <mardraum> I don't know if there's an official definition of "vps", but if you have root, you can upgrade the kernel. Are there vm providers where this is out of bounds?
[14:41] <patdk-lap> mardraum, if it's a vm, yes, you upgrade root
[14:41] <patdk-lap> vps is not a vm
[14:41] <mardraum> they control the bootstrap and kernel?
[14:41] <patdk-lap> heh? that would be a vm
[14:42] <patdk-lap> vps is normally more limited than that
[14:42] <mardraum> vps is a marketing term
[14:43] <mardraum> or at best, roughly defined
[14:43] <patdk-lap> normally vps are based on lxc, or openvz
[14:44] <mardraum> ah, openvz and such
[14:44] <patdk-lap> sometimes xen paravirtual
[14:44] <patdk-lap> though, if it's a real virtual machine, I would call it a vm, instead of vps, be it kvm, full xen, qemu, ...
[14:44] <mardraum> I would too
[14:45] <mardraum> but lots of people use "vps" even in #kvm when talking about their vm
[14:45] <patdk-lap> yep
[14:45] <mardraum> head->desk
[14:45] <patdk-lap> but given the fact his kernel wasn't updated, he isn't on a vm vps :)
[14:45] <mardraum> JonEdney: who is your vps provider?
[14:46] <JonEdney> A2 hosting
[14:46] <patdk-lap> openvz
[14:47] <JonEdney> I have a user-managed VPS, root access, they do not provide support unless it's a hardware or networking issue.
[14:48] <mardraum> JonEdney: patdk-lap believes you are on openvz so yeah, you're screwed.
[14:48] <patdk-lap> the burstable ram, is a dead giveaway
[14:48] <patdk-lap> if it wasn't openvz, the ram would be fixed
[14:48] <mardraum> patdk-lap: nice spot, thanks
[14:49] <mardraum> JonEdney: if you want to know a decent "real" vm provider (kvm) I can /msg you ( I use them, I don't work for them, I don't think I should post links here)
[14:49] <Nafallo> except vmware supports hot-plug memory and cpu? :-)
[14:50] <mardraum> not for that price :
[14:50] <mardraum> :p
[14:50] <JonEdney> mardraum, yeah shoot me a msg
[14:57] <patdk-lap> Nafallo, not really hotplug, but hotadd
[14:57] <patdk-lap> once you add, you can't remove
[14:57] <patdk-lap> so that isn't *burstable*
[14:57] <Nafallo> specifics :-P
[14:58] <patdk-lap> I used to use freebsd jails like vps
[14:58] <patdk-lap> after a few years, dumped that idea, too much to manage
[14:58] <patdk-lap> xen paravirtual was nicer
[14:58] <patdk-lap> now I just run fully vmware
[15:11] <mardraum> patdk-lap: you use vmware for servers at home too?
[15:12] <patdk-lap> not at home, in my rack
[15:13] <three18ti> I like to use KVM vms as development environments.  but you weren't asking me. foreveralone.jpg ;)
[15:15] <three18ti> where is this channel logged ?  thought it said in the topic...
[15:15] <Nafallo> !logs
[15:15] <three18ti> thanks.
[15:20]  * JonEdney ends life
[15:20] <JonEdney> I'm going to have to set something to flames.
[15:23] <JonEdney> Both my 11.10 and 12.04 installations on VirtualBox froze at 75% storing language
[15:27] <zastaph> Ubuntu cloud is still an enterprise thing, for virtualization on multiple computers right?
[15:28] <zastaph> I read also that KVM is now at 1.0, which is probably what I still need. Wonder whats new
[15:35] <three18ti> zastaph https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure
[15:35] <three18ti> it uses openstack basically.
[15:39] <three18ti> I've had some trouble with it http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/sxmy4/maas_my_handson_look/ , but in theory MaaS + Juju + openstack is the way to go
[15:41] <patdk-lap> odd, it says it assumes 10nodes?
[15:41] <zastaph> maybe I mistake it with Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud
[15:41] <zastaph> what does Ubuntu Cloud really give me?
[15:41] <three18ti> I think 6 is the minimum.
[15:41] <three18ti> MaaS replaces UEC
[15:41] <patdk-lap> seems like a high min, I wonder why
[15:42] <three18ti> I think the min is 6 servers for an openstack installation
[15:44] <zastaph> is it basically an ubuntu server that has the power of X computers behind it, or does it give some extra services?
[15:45] <three18ti> zstaph, that's more like an SMP image, something along the lines of kerrighed http://www.kerrighed.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[15:45] <three18ti> MaaS allows for automatic deployment and provisioning servers.
[15:46] <zastaph> guess KVM is what I need
[15:46] <three18ti> juju handles the configuration and service deployment, and openstack is the "cloud" management software.
[15:47] <three18ti> KVM is a hypervisor for virtualization,
[15:49] <zastaph> its just, cloud is a vague term :)
[15:49] <zastaph> http://owncloud.org seems some kind of webdav service
[15:49] <three18ti> ^^^This, this, this, a thousand times this.
[15:49] <zastaph> am looking for a dropbox replacement for a "private cloud"
[15:50] <three18ti> ok, KVM is likely not what you need.
[15:51] <zastaph> well the service could probably run on KVM
[15:51] <three18ti> well... let me take that back.  you -could- create a virtual instance of ubuntu and install dropbox inside of that.
[15:52] <zastaph> i dont think the dropbox server is open source?
[15:52] <three18ti> KVM is just like vmware or virtualbox in that it allows you to run virtual instances of an operating system.  a machine inside a machine.
[15:52] <three18ti> cd ~ && wget -O - "http://www.dropbox.com/download?plat=lnx.x86" | tar xzf -
[15:52] <three18ti> https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx
[15:52] <three18ti> kind of like a virtualception.
[15:53] <three18ti> there's also an ubuntu deb https://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/ubuntu/dropbox_1.4.0_amd64.deb
[15:53] <zastaph> dropbox stores files on a public cloud, im looking for a private cloud solution
[15:54] <zastaph> as in, my own server
[15:55] <ikonia> zastaph: just a webserver is all you need
[15:56] <zastaph> you mean webdav? seems hart to setup, and once you do.. need to find proper webdav clients for all OS's
[15:56] <zastaph> hard
[15:56] <ikonia> think about it, dropbox is just a http uploader
[15:57] <zastaph> its install and go.. i doubt it will be if I try to set it up myself :)
[15:57] <ikonia> I know what you mean, but surly you could adapt any sort of file storage application out there, more so considering some have iphone/android/unusual clients already created
[15:58] <ikonia> http://www.webstuffshare.com/2010/02/plupload-superb-open-source-file-uploader/
[15:58] <ikonia> (just for a quick example)
[15:58] <three18ti> sparkleshare.org
[15:58] <zastaph> important is that it doesnt require web interface, but happens behind the scenes like dropbox does :)
[15:59] <ikonia> zastaph: what do you want to use as a clent ?
[15:59] <zastaph> mac os, windows and linux
[15:59] <three18ti> what is so magical about drobpox?
[15:59] <ikonia> zastaph: no, I mean if you don't want a http interface, what do you want as a client/method of upload
[16:00] <zastaph> three, sparkleshare seems nice, did you try it
[16:01] <zastaph> ikonia, not as important as the user experience.. except if I want to access it from outside my home, then some secure methond of course
[16:01] <three18ti> I have not personally, just some googleing, but it was recommended on a slashdot post and a couple other sites.
[16:01] <ikonia> zastaph: how does not using a web interface improve the user experience ?
[16:02] <zastaph> ikonia, did you use dropbox? :)
[16:02] <ikonia> I tried it but found no use for it so I'm not a "user" of it
[16:04] <zastaph> once I get a dropbox thing going, I can start syncing anything from notes, to calendars as long as it is in flat file format
[16:07] <three18ti> use git + chiliproject.  CP is really meant for source control, but since git handles anything, you could theoretically track anything.
[16:08] <ikonia> I think it's the out of the box solution he wants
[16:08] <three18ti> also you would have a revision history, so if you fubar something you can always revert to something previous.
[16:08] <zastaph> speaking of, I am also looking for a private github solution :)
[16:09] <ikonia> just install git
[16:09] <three18ti> ^ chiliproject + redmine_githosting
[16:09] <three18ti> CP has source review and project tracking. you can check out their app on their site, https://www.chiliproject.org/
[16:10] <three18ti> it's a rails app, so it's not exactly PnP, but I think it's a great project.
[16:11] <zastaph> so a bit like phabricator?
[16:11] <three18ti> calendars, per project wiki, gnatt charts, forums, etc.
[16:11] <zastaph> ah collaboration tool
[16:11] <three18ti> it's actually github + project management
[16:11] <three18ti> + collaobration
[16:11] <three18ti> *collaboration
[16:13] <three18ti> also see gitlabhq https://github.com/gitlabhq/gitlabhq
[16:13] <zastaph> thanks
[16:32] <zastaph> do you use a NAS/NFS ? can't decide which one to get. Most of the comes with a multitude of services, but I'd like not to depend on services from one vendor, so basically just want an efficient networked storage
[16:38] <rmk> Depends on your requirements
[16:38] <rmk> Nfs is simple and reliable but doesn't
[16:38] <rmk> Have a lot of security options unless you use v4
[16:39] <rmk> Not many people are using v4 however, so you will have trouble even finding vendor solutions which work well
[16:40] <zastaph> 2 or 4 disks, energy efficient
[16:40] <rmk> Sounds like a home setup
[16:41] <zastaph> yeah :)
[16:41] <rmk> If your clients are all Linux then just find something that does nfs v3
[16:41] <zastaph> no has to be multi platform
[16:41] <rmk> Which is just about everything
[16:42] <three18ti> I like the first answer here: http://serverfault.com/questions/134467/what-is-the-real-difference-between-a-nas-and-nfs-or-why-pick-a-nas-device-o
[16:43] <zastaph> dont have a spare server to install it to, so have to buy something anyways
[16:43] <zastaph> and then why not a real NAS to start with
[16:50] <zastaph> rmk, what are the alternatives to nfs that will work cross platform?
[16:55] <RoyK> zastaph: smb?
[16:58] <zastaph> is smb windows shares, or is it also a *nix server?
[17:05] <RoyK> zastaph: it's a protocol developed for windows, but works on other platforms as well
[17:07] <zastaph> what works better to host a smb server? windows or linux
[17:10] <zastaph> and which one makes mac os most happy
[17:11] <zastaph> and what about iSCSI
[17:40] <three18ti> what about iSCSI?
[17:40] <virusuy> morning folks
[17:40] <three18ti> almostnooning. ;)
[17:40] <virusuy> :)
[17:45] <virusuy> ahhh, nothing like a good coffee in the morning
[17:45] <virusuy> :)
[17:48] <RoyK> any idea how one can identify an Advanced Format drive that lies about its sector size?
[17:59] <tarvid> clients getting 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
[18:00] <three18ti> tarvid, first hit on google, http://www.benscobie.com/fixing-500-oops-vsftpd-refusing-to-run-with-writable-root-inside-chroot/
[18:00] <tarvid> added allow_writable_root=YES but that is nopt enough
[18:01] <three18ti> also: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=133136
[18:01] <tarvid> btw that was impossible from home Hughesnet because dnsmasq times out
[18:02] <tarvid> happens here too
[18:02] <tarvid> The server at bbs.archlinux.org can't be found, because the DNS lookup failed.
[18:03] <tarvid> dns worked the second time but never works on Hughesnet
[18:04] <three18ti> idk what to tell you, site works for me.  probably a problem @your end.
[18:04] <virusuy> works for me too
[18:05] <three18ti> call your hosting company, if a you can't get to a site that you don't host from a network that isn't theirs, must be the hosting companies fault.
[18:05] <Tzunamii> # Down for everyone or just me?
[18:05] <Tzunamii> function down4me() { curl -s "http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/$1" | sed '/just you/!d;s/<[^>]*>//g' ; }
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[18:06] <tarvid> I am the hosting company in this case
[18:06] <ikonia> then look at the dns servers you are using
[18:08] <three18ti> thanks <Tzunamii>
[18:08] <Tzunamii> Any time
[18:08] <tarvid> I am the DNS server too
[18:09] <ikonia> then look at your dns servers
[18:09] <tarvid> but not at home on Hughesnet, they proxy and it works on Windows
[18:09] <ikonia> what?
[18:09] <Tzunamii> tarvid: Using dnsmasq and nothing else?
[18:10] <tarvid> vanilla upgrade
[18:10] <ikonia> vanilla upgrade??
[18:10] <Tzunamii> tarvid: If you want help you need to elaborate a lot more on your specific issue
[18:11] <tarvid> dnsmasq is broken on 12.04
[18:11] <tarvid> If I add the domain to hosts I can usually get through
[18:11] <ikonia> I don't think it is broke in 12.04
[18:11] <ikonia> I know people using it quite sucessfully
[18:12] <ikonia> at least 2
[18:12] <tarvid> you are not in my shoes
[18:13] <ikonia> errr what ?
[18:13] <tarvid> and after adding CHROOT LOCAL = NO to vsftd.conf I get Connection attempt failed with "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server".
[18:13] <ikonia> what has vsftpd got to do with dns ?
[18:13] <ikonia> I think you need to start again and explain your setup/issue
[18:14] <tarvid> I have tried two machines I upgraded to 12.04 at home , both fail, my wifes Windows Vista machine works
[18:14] <SpaceBass> hey folks, with ssfhs, I want to add to fstab, but need it to use the pre-shared key auth of a specific user, is that possible?
[18:15] <tarvid> both of these were do-dist-upgrade -d on 11.10 boxes
[18:15] <ikonia> again, actually try explaining your setup/issue rather than just repeating that "it" doesn't work
[18:15] <tarvid> dns does not resolve
[18:15] <ikonia> tarvid: right, so you've upgraded to the development version
[18:15] <ikonia> tarvid: ok, so what dns servers are your ubuntu clients set to use ?
[18:15] <Tzunamii> https://sokratisg.wordpress.com/2012/03/31/ubuntu-precise-12-04-get-rid-of-nms-dnsmasq-and-setup-your-own/
[18:15] <tarvid> No the final version that came out Thursday
[18:15] <ikonia> tarvid: yes but -d = development version
[18:16] <ikonia> tarvid: so you pulled your stuff out of the development branch
[18:16] <tarvid> No upgrade happens without the -d
[18:16] <ikonia> tarvid: then why did you just say you did  do-dist-upgrade -d
[18:16] <tarvid> I thought it was dist-upgrade
[18:16] <ikonia> tarvid: are you either a.) no idea what you've done b.) telling me lies of what you think I want to hear
[18:16] <Pici> do-release-upgrade*
[18:17] <tarvid> because nothinghappened without it
[18:17] <tarvid> I did update u7pgrades after the dist upgrade
[18:18] <ikonia> tarvid: lets look at the basics, what host is your ubuntu clients using as a dns resolver ?
[18:19] <tarvid> 127.0.0.1
[18:19] <ikonia> tarvid: why are they not using your ISP's dns servers ?
[18:19] <tarvid> because dnsmasq changes it to 127.0.0.1
[18:19] <ikonia> tarvid: why are you using dnsmasq ?
[18:19] <ikonia> why not just point your clients at your ISP's dns servers
[18:19] <tarvid> dhcp would set it to 192.168.11.1
[18:19] <ikonia> why not use 192.168.11.1 ?
[18:20] <tarvid> that is no longer simple either
[18:20] <ikonia> why not use 192.168.11.1 ?
[18:20] <tarvid> On another site I ran into issues with resoilkvconf
[18:20] <tarvid> I get my dns servers by dhcp
[18:20] <ikonia> what are you talking about ?
[18:21] <ikonia> that's nothing to do with the question I've asked
[18:21] <three18ti> it must be a Russian resolv.conf
[18:21] <ikonia> "why are you not using your ISP's DNS servers"
[18:21] <tarvid> resolve.conf gets rewritten
[18:21] <ikonia> what ?
[18:21] <ikonia> resolv.conf gets issued with the dns server your DHCP server offers
[18:22] <ikonia> from what you've said that is your broadband gateway address 192.168.11.1
[18:22] <Tzunamii> tarvid: If you're using dnsmasq you really should specify a number of upstream DNS servers in your dnsmasq config-file, set /etc/resolv.conf to only have 127.0.0.1 as nameserver entry
[18:22] <tarvid> yes it proxies dns and gets the addresses from my sat modem
[18:22] <ikonia> tarvid: right, so why are you using dnsmasq and not just using 192.168.11.1
[18:22] <Tzunamii> tarvid: How about pastebin your /etc/dnsmasq.conf and /etc/resolv.conf
[18:22] <ikonia> tarvid: let your router give out the address 192.168.11.1 and just use it
[18:23] <three18ti> Tzunamii, doesn't resolver to this for you?  It always helps and rewrites my resolv.conf when I assign static IPs.
[18:23] <tarvid> first there is no dnsmasq.conf by default
[18:23] <ikonia> tarvid: why are you using dnsmasq and not your ISP's dns service ?
[18:24] <tarvid> because that is what the distribution upgrade set up
[18:24] <ikonia> no - it doesn't install and setup dnsmasq by default
[18:25] <Tzunamii> three18ti: There are a number of ways of doing this and my preferred way it to just put the static entries in there and let dnsmasq (if you want caching) take care of the rest
[18:26] <Tzunamii> it's so easy to set up
[18:26] <tarvid> http://pastebin.com/4WGeuu3g
[18:27] <three18ti> hehe and I meant "helps".  put static entries in where resolve.conf or in resolver?
[18:27] <tarvid> Tzunamii, you have to get rid of resolvconf to do that
[18:27] <ikonia> tarvid: stop using dnsmasq and just let dhcp give you a dns server
[18:27] <tarvid> I would have to pull at least two packages - dnsmasq and resolveconf
[18:27] <Tzunamii> ikonia: I haven't doublechecked it, but check the link above
[18:28] <ikonia> Tzunamii: what link ?
[18:28] <Tzunamii> ikonia: https://sokratisg.wordpress.com/2012/03/31/ubuntu-precise-12-04-get-rid-of-nms-dnsmasq-and-setup-your-own/
[18:28] <ikonia> Tzunamii: ahh, let me see
[18:29] <tarvid> good idea but then an upgrade leaves a cllient in disarray and an upgrade breaks vsftpd on a server, these need to be fixed
[18:29] <ikonia> just remove dnsmasq and use your isp's dns servers
[18:29] <ikonia> I cannot understand why you are using dnsmasq
[18:29] <tarvid> because that is what the upgrade did, I did not choose dnsmasq
[18:30] <ikonia> remove dnsmasq then
[18:30] <tarvid> have to remove resolvconf too
[18:30] <ikonia> let your dhcp client take the dns servers your provider offers
[18:30] <tarvid> I support a ot of Ubuntu users and this is a nightmare
[18:30] <ikonia> not really
[18:31] <tarvid> three data centers, hundreds of clients, this is going to require a ot of support time
[18:31] <Tzunamii> YOu have two choices, either get dnsmasq working properly or apt-get --purge remove dnsmasq
[18:31] <ikonia> not really
[18:32] <ikonia> I don't believe (reading that URL) dnsmasq is installed as part of the upgrade, it only changes if you are already using dnsmasq before the upgrade
[18:33] <Tzunamii> I'm not so sure, but I haven't got time to investigate that particular issue atm
[18:33] <tarvid> may have been install by tasksel
[18:35] <ikonia> tarvid: then you did that
[18:36] <tarvid> I did the upgrade, that is true, the upgrade made the mess because itworked befor the upgrade
[18:37] <Tzunamii> tarvid: You're using the Ubuntu-server version and not the desktop?
[18:37] <tarvid> I use the server version on servers and the desktop on desktops
[18:38] <Tzunamii> tarvid: You're having problems with the server-version atm, correct?
[18:39] <tarvid> both but different issues
[18:39] <tarvid> dns is broken on desktops and vsftpd is broken on servers
[18:39] <Tzunamii> The desktop dnsmasq issue can be rectified with this link  https://sokratisg.wordpress.com/2012/03/31/ubuntu-precise-12-04-get-rid-of-nms-dnsmasq-and-setup-your-own/
[18:40] <ikonia> I don't see a reason to use dnsmasq at all
[18:40] <tarvid> Heading to the data center in Fairfax and I can check there
[18:40] <ikonia> errr why do you need to go to the data center ?
[18:40] <ikonia> can you not access the machines ?
[18:40] <Tzunamii> ikonia: Depends on the environment
[18:41] <tarvid> bind as a caching server is not entirely pretty either
[18:41] <tarvid> because I will no longer do unattended upgrades, the process is unreliable
[18:41] <ikonia> Tzunamii: sure but unless I'm told a reason (which is why I keep asking why it's being used)
[18:41] <ikonia> tarvid: please stop talking nonsense
[18:41] <ikonia> tarvid: bind is an excellent caching server, and unattended upgrades work fine IF you understand how your machines are setup
[18:42] <ikonia> tarvid: have your ubuntu desktops always used dnsmasq ?
[18:42] <tarvid> I don't know, they just worked
[18:42] <ikonia> tarvid: right, so you don't know how your desktops are setup, and now your surprised they are not working
[18:42] <Tzunamii> ikonia: Do we need a reason? He just wants his shit fixed. I agree that it can both be overkill and unnecessary, but if his environment needs it who are we to judge. In any case, the link posted will take care of his immediate issue with dnsmasq
[18:42] <tarvid> I do web development on them so they often have added server software
[18:42] <ikonia> tarvid: if you're supported 200 desktops as you say, you should have an idea of how they have been setup
[18:43] <ikonia> Tzunamii: if a user can't say why they are using it...there is no reason to use it as it adds a complexity that is unneeded
[18:43] <tarvid> I am referring to my direct experience, I haven't encouraged anybody to upgrade until I know how to resolve the issues
[18:43] <ikonia> tarvid: again, changes nothing
[18:44] <ikonia> tarvid: this sounds like a user error in terms of setup from day one, and the upgrade has now changed the way that setup works
[18:44] <Tzunamii> Agreed, but always remember the quickest way between two points is a straight line, ie fix the issue at hand and not letting it be more unnecessarily complicated
[18:45] <ikonia> Tzunamii: I disagree, as fixing 200 dnsmasq boxes to fail on the next upgrade if stuff changes again is pointless, getting to a working setup that's long term maintainable is the approach
[18:45] <tarvid> well thanks for the challenges to my equanimity - Rumi - The Guest House
[18:45] <ikonia> I have no idea what you are saying
[18:45] <Tzunamii> No matter what he does he will still need to issue a fix on those ~200 workstations
[18:45] <tarvid> Off to Fairfax
[18:45] <ikonia> Tzunamii: yes, so lets fix them correctly, once,
[18:46] <Tzunamii> We don't have enough information to say what's correct in his scenario or environment
[18:46] <ikonia> Tzunamii: exactly, which is why I keep asking for info on the environment and why dnsmasq is being used
[18:46] <Tzunamii> Besides, that's a desktop issue
[18:46] <Tzunamii> tarvid: What's your issue with vsftpd, please?
[18:47] <Tzunamii> I love users
[18:48] <tarvid> 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
[18:49] <Tzunamii> There are numerous hits on Google for that incl http://www.benscobie.com/fixing-500-oops-vsftpd-refusing-to-run-with-writable-root-inside-chroot/
[18:49] <Tzunamii> I don't personally use vsftpd so I'm not much help beside Googling for you
[18:50] <tarvid> I've done that but I had to add benscobie.com to hosts to get there
[18:50] <tarvid> I am willing to switch
[18:51] <Tzunamii> just add  nameserver 4.2.2.2   to the top of the list in /etc/resolv.conf temporarily and it will resolve
[18:52] <tarvid> not unless I get rid of resolvconf too
[18:53] <ikonia> stop adding things to the hosts file and fix dns
[18:53] <ikonia> it sounds like dns is your root problem
[18:54] <tarvid> that is correct but I could not chase google links to fix the DNS problem - Gregory Bateson double bind theory
[18:54] <tarvid> Catch 22
[18:54] <ikonia> not really
[18:55] <ikonia> just put working dns servers in resolv.conf and your fine
[18:55] <tarvid> resolvconf overwrites them
[18:55] <Tzunamii> Besides, why in earth would anyone would like dnsmasq on every workstation anyway? Just set it up on a server somewhere and point the friggin' workstations to it IF you want to use it in the first place
[18:55] <ikonia> not real time
[18:55] <tarvid> are you runnning 12.04
[18:55] <ikonia> tarvid: at this exact second, no
[18:55] <ikonia> I'm not on an ubuntu laptop
[18:55] <tarvid> I thought so
[18:56] <ikonia> but what does that have to do with anything ?
[18:56] <tarvid> Using a Macbook or Mac air
[18:56] <ikonia> what does that have to do with anything ?
[18:56] <ikonia> tarvid: can you stop with the pointless stuff and focus on providing information on the issues so we can help you resolve them
[18:56] <tarvid> seems to be a preference of many
[18:56] <ikonia> that has no relevence
[18:57] <tarvid> everything is connected
[18:57] <ikonia> no, it's not
[18:57] <ikonia> stop with the pointless stuff/comments, and provide information about the issues so we can help you fix them
[18:57] <tarvid> if Ubuntu was reliable for developers they would not pay the penalty for a Mac
[18:58] <ikonia> tarvid: ubuntu is reliable for developers - again stop with the pointless comments
[18:58] <tarvid> Actually I am going to wish you all well and head out of here - something about Mozi and Kenosis
[18:58] <ikonia> ok, bye
[20:29] <JonEdney> Hey I'm curious: If I run nmap -sS -p 20-2550 localhost on my VPS and it says port 25 is open, then my server refusing connections to it would have nothing to do with my settings then, right?
[20:30] <patdk-wk> hmm, localhost has nothing to do if external will work
[20:31] <guntbert> ikonia: do you have a few minutes (pm)?
[20:34] <ikonia> guntbert: sure thing
[20:34] <ikonia> always
[20:51] <JonEdney> Well, it seems my web host blocks port 25
[20:51] <JonEdney> :X
[20:51] <virusuy> seems reasonable
[20:51] <guntbert> JonEdney: what do you want with 25 on a web host?
[20:51] <virusuy> that's the easiest way to block spam
[20:52] <JonEdney> Right
[20:53] <JonEdney> So I'm trying to use postfix on a different port, but I can't seem to get it to use it as smtp
[20:53] <chrisdruif> afs on ubuntu 12.04
[20:53] <guntbert> JonEdney: again, why run a mail server on a web host?
[20:53] <JonEdney> Ah, this is a VPS i am trying to set up to host my website.
[20:54] <guntbert> JonEdney: yes, what has that to do with a mail server? and normally VPS providers don't block any ports
[20:55] <JonEdney> Well I installed postfix on my VPS, so I can host my mail on it instead of on a shared account.
[20:55] <JonEdney> Apparently, they do and offer an alternate of 2525, but I have to configure the mailserver to use it.
[20:56] <guntbert> JonEdney: as I always say: be *very* careful when running your own mail server - that nothing for someone who hasn't done it on a private network before
[20:56] <guntbert> *that is
[20:56] <virusuy> second guntbert opinion
[20:57] <virusuy> spammers will find a honepot in your not-so-well configured mailserver
[20:57] <virusuy> honeypot*
[20:57] <JonEdney> Alright, well I will take your advice then lol
[20:57] <JonEdney> I'm still a noob
[20:58] <guntbert> JonEdney: I didn't want to imply this - but mail servers are for experienced sysadmins only
[21:01] <JonEdney> I understand that, was just looking forward to learning and such.
[21:01] <JonEdney> I installed a server here on a virtualbox, maybe ill play on that since it dont access the net
[21:02] <guntbert> JonEdney: good idea
[21:02] <guntbert> my own vps doesn't run anything I don't need - especially no mail server
[21:03] <JonEdney> I have a shared account, but this VPS i really wanted to learn with , i got apache/php/mysql and such up, so really everything I need
[21:05] <guntbert> JonEdney: just a little story: after installing the ssh server it took about 15 minutes until the first break in attempts were registered
[21:06] <JonEdney> wowzers...i haven't even gotten to setting up a firewall or such :X
[21:08] <guntbert> JonEdney: simple advice: install/start  only services you need/want, make them secure (ssh: only key based login   eg) and don't worry about a firewall - except for training
[21:11] <rfrittmann_> Hello all from Auckland, New Zealand. I have a new Ubuntu 12.04 Server install, and needing some help over the next few days to configure it.
[21:13] <virusuy> rfrittmann_: hey there!
[21:13] <virusuy> if you need help with something just ask
[21:14] <rfrittmann_> Thanks virusuy, I have quite a comprehensive plan in mind for this server, including subversion, apache, postgresql, postgis, qgis, etc
[21:15] <virusuy> nice plan
[21:15] <rfrittmann_> yeah, so I'll try to direct my questions to the correct channels, but I'll camp out here mostly for the next few days :-)
[21:17] <virusuy> rfrittmann_: well, welcome home... and as i said before, if you need help with something just ask, someone will answer
[21:18] <rfrittmann_> I've been using Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop for the last couple years, this is my first server install. I'm still quite new to Ubuntu, have MS certification in networking, but applying that knowledge to Ubuntu is alearning curve.
[21:20] <rfrittmann_> How do I set an authoritative nameserver up for my domain?
[21:21] <rfrittmann_> I don't have a registered domain name yet, just wanting a local domain
[21:22] <rfrittmann_> I have a static IP address already
[21:23] <virusuy> uhmm
[21:23] <virusuy> take a look at bin
[21:23] <virusuy> bind*
[21:25] <JonEdney> Bind scares me :(
[21:25] <rfrittmann_> okay, I'm at howtoforge, going through BIND info, thanks.
[21:25] <virusuy> oh, it's just a bunch of config files, zones ,etc :-P
[21:26] <virusuy> but you must understand how a DNS works, if you dont, you will fail at configure bind.
[21:26] <JonEdney> Right
[22:19] <rfrittmann_> hmm... was going through howtoforge docs to create the perfect server, but lost my Internet connection on the server, back soon once I have it connected again.
[22:28] <rfrittmann_> this is weird, I can ping through my WRT54G router on this machine using eth0, and on another machine using wlan0, but cannot get to the far side of the router from my server using wlan0 or eth0.
[22:46] <tohuw> Samba 3.6.3 (Ubuntu 12.04 Server): I'm having difficulty creating a public share. My smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/956298/ What should the UNIX permissions of the physical location be? I currently have root:sambashare, 0775
[23:40] <spotter> anyone have experience recovering from lvm metadata corruption?
[23:40] <spotter> I have the configuration, but can't seem to reload it