| finsbury | yo | 00:18 |
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| finsbury | irc.helldive.org | 00:20 |
| ball | Well that was odd. | 00:34 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 09:52 |
| === feisar is now known as Guest42198 | ||
| penguin42 | rather windy out there | 11:02 |
| aCilnv | penguin - it's the wrong type of wind - same as wrong type of rain .. | 11:03 |
| AlanBell | this is a very damp drought | 11:03 |
| MartijnVdS | so.. 100 names for wind? | 11:03 |
| AlanBell | it is so wet that czajkowski didn't want to bounce on my trampoline | 11:03 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | morning people. | 11:04 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 11:04 |
| aCilnv | Alan - i dont want to see what UK's like out of drought then .. | 11:04 |
| aCilnv | morning TOS | 11:04 |
| === feisar__ is now known as feisar | ||
| TheOpenSourcerer | I fell in love last night... | 11:08 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | With a beer. | 11:08 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Darwin's Origin. http://www.salopianbrewery.co.uk/beers.php It's absolutely perfect. | 11:08 |
| gordonjcp | you know there are twelve different words in Gaelic for rain | 11:10 |
| gordonjcp | but the only repeatable one translates as "water" | 11:10 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | In Greenland they have several dozen for snow. | 11:10 |
| gordonjcp | one gaelic word for rain is so obscene it's only ever been written down once | 11:11 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It is fantastically wet here today. | 11:11 |
| gordonjcp | nice and sunny here | 11:11 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: "Belgium" | 11:11 |
| gordonjcp | indeed | 11:11 |
| nperry | ubuntu-uk.org down? | 11:13 |
| AlanBell | so it would appear | 11:13 |
| AlanBell | hmm, and popey is on a plane so probably didn't break it | 11:14 |
| AlanBell | Daviey: o/ | 11:14 |
| nperry | I blame popey, even if he is on a plane. | 11:14 |
| AlanBell | maybe Daviey is on a plane too | 11:14 |
| gordonjcp | maybe it's *because* popey is on a plane | 11:14 |
| AlanBell | yeah, lets go back to the default position and blame popey | 11:14 |
| AlanBell | maybe he took the server with him | 11:14 |
| gordonjcp | maybe ubuntu-uk.org is actually running on popey's laptop | 11:14 |
| gordonjcp | exactly | 11:14 |
| nperry | \o/ | 11:15 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer thinks he might update his main work desktop this afternoon. From 10.10 to 12.04. Will probably do a clean install... | 11:21 | |
| * brobostigon thinks he might delay visiting the pub, considering the weather. | 11:21 | |
| * TheOpenSourcerer will not be drinking anything alcoholic today. My Liver has taken a hammering for the last 3 days on the trot. Last night was a big night! :-D | 11:22 | |
| brobostigon | :) good idea. | 11:23 |
| * brobostigon also doesnt want to get soaked. | 11:24 | |
| penguin42 | brobostigon: You're assuming the weather is going to get better | 11:24 |
| brobostigon | penguin42: maybe, and yes, it probebly wont get better. anytime soon. | 11:25 |
| tymchn | morning, is the website for the podcast down at the moment? | 11:28 |
| tymchn | morning, is the website for the podcast down at the moment? | 11:30 |
| tymchn | oops sorry | 11:30 |
| nperry | yes | 11:31 |
| nperry | blame popey | 11:31 |
| tymchn | hahahaha why, what did popey do? | 11:31 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | What's the fastest way to backup my ~/ dir over a LAN? | 11:36 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Just want to make a copy before rebuilding | 11:36 |
| brobostigon | rsync, i would guess. | 11:36 |
| brobostigon | or scp. | 11:37 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | scp (encryption overhead) | 11:37 |
| brobostigon | cp ? | 11:37 |
| penguin42 | not a big problem these days unless your CPUs really suck | 11:37 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | My server does - It's a VIAC700 downclocked ;-) | 11:37 |
| brobostigon | can you use cp like you do scp ? | 11:38 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | What about nc? | 11:38 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Anyone used that recently | 11:38 |
| brobostigon | i am not familier with. | 11:38 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Think nc might be the way to go. http://blog.makezine.com/2008/11/14/linux-tip-superfast-network-fi/ | 11:41 |
| user_ | hi | 12:07 |
| user_ | i'm having issues upgrading 10.04 to 12.04 | 12:07 |
| user_ | it does not give me an option to upgrade in the update manager, even though I selected check for lts updates and rechecked for updates | 12:08 |
| Darael | If it's refusing to acknowledge the existence of a release, then I had the same problem. I cheated slightly. | 12:08 |
| user_ | how did you fix it? | 12:08 |
| Darael | Try running "update-manager -d", which checks for a development release. For some reason, Lucid seems to think Precise hasn't been released yet. | 12:09 |
| user_ | if I run that, will it keep updating it to the developer versions? | 12:09 |
| user_ | (every time a new version comes out?) | 12:09 |
| Darael | Nope, just to Precise. | 12:09 |
| user_ | will it also subscribe to the edge developer packages? | 12:09 |
| Darael | No; it just changes where it looks for a new release on that one invocation of the update manager. | 12:10 |
| user_ | okay, thanks a lot :) | 12:10 |
| Darael | You can test my assertion if you like - run update-manager -d, close it, and run without the flag. It won't show the new release as available the second time. | 12:11 |
| user_ | have a nice day | 12:11 |
| Darael | (only a partial test, sure) | 12:11 |
| Darael | You too. | 12:11 |
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| penguin42 | I'm not sure why I'm getting adverts for BUPA maritime insurance | 13:08 |
| DJones | penguin42: Have you looked out of the window today? | 13:08 |
| penguin42 | good point, a sale craft would work well to get to work | 13:08 |
| penguin42 | sail ? | 13:09 |
| DJones | We've just got back from church, even the vicar commented that todays reading would be the story of Noah :) | 13:09 |
| zleap | hello | 13:14 |
| andresmp | hello! | 13:21 |
| andresmp | Is totem reproducing youtube supposed to have worst resolution? | 13:22 |
| andresmp | and my next question, | 13:24 |
| andresmp | is there any reason, having all the 3rd party codecs installed, that some youtube videos cannot be reproduced in totem? | 13:24 |
| dogmatic69 | hmmm.. just logged onto my server and my screen session is gone :/ | 14:17 |
| dogmatic69 | anyone know why / how? | 14:18 |
| penguin42 | you logged out of the last member of it? You rebooted the box while you were away? | 14:55 |
| dogmatic69 | uptime == 24days | 14:55 |
| dogmatic69 | had +-10 tabs open, just clicked X on the local terminal (screen was in remote server) | 14:56 |
| Nafallo | dogmatic69: are you sure it's gone? | 14:57 |
| dogmatic69 | well I logged onto the server ran the cmd and blank. just one empty tab | 15:02 |
| dogmatic69 | Nafallo: ^ | 15:03 |
| Nafallo | dogmatic69: screen -list | 15:07 |
| dogmatic69 | Nafallo: only the one that I am currently in | 15:17 |
| Nafallo | well, den it's gone :-) | 15:17 |
| dogmatic69 | strange | 15:17 |
| dogmatic69 | maybe it was an update or something | 15:18 |
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| zleap | how would i get something like ucubed unconference or something similar where Iam in Paignton or south devon ? | 17:02 |
| nperry | zleap, its a bit off-topic. Try your local lug! | 17:05 |
| nperry | shit, thought this was #ubuntu :/ | 17:05 |
| nperry | http://www.dcglug.org.uk/ | 17:05 |
| AlanBell | paignton lacks transport links | 17:07 |
| daftykins | can't see much benefit to having their IRC chan on another server | 17:07 |
| AlanBell | zleap: probably Bristol would be better as a place that is easy to get to | 17:08 |
| zleap | ok | 17:09 |
| zleap | we are on the main line down from bristol | 17:09 |
| zleap | ucubed is ubuntu related isn'tit | 17:11 |
| AlanBell | if you look at manchester and where it is in relation to liverpool, leeds, sheffield, birmingham etc you can see how it has a big catchment area | 17:11 |
| zleap | ok good point | 17:11 |
| zleap | just that we never get anything in Devon | 17:11 |
| zleap | ok on a side(ish) note would canonical support any efforts of the dclug to do something like this | 17:12 |
| AlanBell | probably not in any significant way | 17:13 |
| zleap | ok | 17:13 |
| AlanBell | you might get a conference pack of stuff, a few CDs a book and a couple of tshirts | 17:13 |
| AlanBell | that won't really help you fill a venue | 17:13 |
| zleap | ok | 17:13 |
| zleap | will chat to the lug | 17:14 |
| kvarley | I'm attempting to install amazonmp3 in Ubuntu Precise and it says dependency is not satisfiable "libboost-filesystem1.34.1". Should I install it from an older release? | 17:14 |
| AlanBell | how much is a ticket from Paddington to Paignton and how long does it take? | 17:15 |
| zleap | about 4 hours I think | 17:15 |
| zleap | cheapest ticket is £81 | 17:16 |
| zleap | http://www.thetrainline.com/buytickets/combinedmatrix.aspx?Command=TimeTable | 17:16 |
| zleap | for may 29th (random future date entered) | 17:17 |
| zleap | AlanBell, i may send for some more 12.04 cd's from you at some point, I have sent an sae for a few from the pre-order batch offer | 17:19 |
| daftykins | kvarley: worth a try | 17:20 |
| daftykins | do they offer flash drives yet? | 17:20 |
| daftykins | of new releases | 17:21 |
| zleap | i installed fuse (spectrum emulator) the other day and tried to associate sna and z80 files with fuse but in the open with box it can't even find fuse. | 17:21 |
| daftykins | does it run as a terminal app? | 17:22 |
| zleap | not sure | 17:22 |
| zleap | i can run it from dash | 17:22 |
| zleap | it can run from terminal yes (terminal window) | 17:22 |
| daftykins | i'd have seen an issue trying to call it if it does only work within a terminal | 17:23 |
| zleap | ok | 17:24 |
| zleap | well its in my launcher sidebar | 17:24 |
| zleap | I canload the emulator, i just wondered if I could click on a game and have that openwith fuse, in the same way a odt file opens with libreoffice | 17:24 |
| daftykins | yeah | 17:26 |
| daftykins | file association, that old chestnut | 17:26 |
| zleap | yep | 17:28 |
| zleap | there is a big list, even a option to look on like if I tclick open with | 17:28 |
| daftykins2 | apparently my file server's host OS isn't quite stable right now :D | 18:29 |
| daftykins2 | Handbrake killed it \o/ | 18:29 |
| Azelphur | I just tried LMDE, wasn't too impressed :/ | 18:40 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| daubers | Hey interwebs people.... does anyone know of an interwebs company that won't do a 12 month contract? I need a contract for 2 months until I can get FTTC | 20:15 |
| AlanBell | who are you getting FTTC from? | 20:15 |
| daubers | AlanBell: Probably BT | 20:16 |
| * AlanBell has FTTC from plus.net | 20:16 | |
| AlanBell | they are quite good really, it is technically BT that fit it (the BT engineer fits the termination box) | 20:17 |
| AlanBell | you can get ADSL from them and then upgrade to FTTC | 20:17 |
| daubers | AlanBell: I know :) But it's a new FTTC area I'm moving into. BT are doing it from June 30th, so Plus won't fit it for another couple of months | 20:17 |
| daubers | AlanBell: Hmmm..... have a feeling they might try and con me out of another fee for doing so | 20:17 |
| AlanBell | give them a call and arrange it in advance | 20:18 |
| daubers | Hmmm.. might try that tomorrow | 20:18 |
| daubers | Need to call the car insurance people anyway | 20:18 |
| AlanBell | you are more likely to be able to sort something out with them than with BT I expect | 20:18 |
| daubers | Current contract is with plus net | 20:19 |
| daubers | so shall lean on them a bit | 20:19 |
| * daubers gets a new house on Friday *\o/* | 20:20 | |
| AlanBell | nice | 20:23 |
| Myrtti | I have no idea what this whole conversation is about, but in Finland I used my mobile for Internet connection for three months while living at mums and finally waiting to have ADSL installed at my apartment once I moved some years ago. Nobody complained when I used the connection to download two OpenSuSE DVD's on it on the first month | 20:26 |
| Myrtti | :-D | 20:27 |
| daubers | Myrtti: That would probably cost £lots over here! | 20:27 |
| Myrtti | I think I paid 15€ or something similar | 20:27 |
| Myrtti | as my mobile phone company charges by speed, not quota | 20:28 |
| daubers | Could turn the revo into a 3G router if the mobile signal is any good out there I suppose | 20:28 |
| AlanBell | anyone got a raspberry pi yet? | 20:37 |
| jacobw | by speed is cool way to charge :) | 20:39 |
| Myrtti | jacobw: it makes more sense to me that charging by quota | 20:44 |
| Myrtti | s/that/than/ | 20:44 |
| jacobw | quite | 20:44 |
| jacobw | exceeding a quota does not cause conjestion _now_ | 20:45 |
| Myrtti | but since Finnish companies started selling iPhone the previously ubiquitous charge by speed policies have been revoked | 20:45 |
| Myrtti | not all of them, mind | 20:45 |
| bigcalm | Good evening peeps :) | 21:14 |
| jacobw | good evening | 21:16 |
| dogmatic69 | sup bigcalm | 21:21 |
| bigcalm | A weekend away from home. What have I missed? | 21:22 |
| czajkowski | wonder did gord pack his tea bags | 21:23 |
| dogmatic69 | bigcalm: some rain... | 21:23 |
| bigcalm | dogmatic69: no worries, I got that while visiting my parents | 21:23 |
| dogmatic69 | all good then :) | 21:23 |
| daftykins | scratch that | 21:28 |
| daftykins | it was an island wide power cut | 21:28 |
| daftykins | :D | 21:28 |
| * Myrtti is just about to publish the Debianizing of Viglen MPC-L blog entry | 21:32 | |
| brobostigon | that rocks Myrtti | 21:33 |
| daftykins | :o | 21:34 |
| * Myrtti prods ubuntuuk-planet | 22:08 | |
| andypiper | hmm planet ubuntu uk seems dead | 22:10 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| zleap | yeah just got an e-mail saying that | 22:10 |
| jacobw | ubuntu-uk.org is dead | 22:10 |
| jacobw | as in, http | 22:10 |
| andypiper | doh | 22:10 |
| Myrtti | aww. | 22:10 |
| Myrtti | in that case | 22:11 |
| bigcalm | popey: fix things! | 22:11 |
| Myrtti | http://myrtti.fi/blog/2012/04/30/viglen-mpc-l-from-xubuntu-10-04-lts-to-debian-stable/ | 22:11 |
| Myrtti | bigcalm: he's in a big flying metal tube | 22:11 |
| Myrtti | or recovering from the experience | 22:11 |
| bigcalm | Myrtti: that should not be an excuse in this day and age :D | 22:11 |
| bigcalm | Myrtti: how many books are you being sent? | 22:11 |
| Myrtti | bigcalm: asked fifteen just to be safe | 22:12 |
| andypiper | Myrtti: wait - so i can't upgrade my MPC-L to 12.04? | 22:12 |
| Myrtti | andypiper: nope | 22:12 |
| bigcalm | Goodness | 22:12 |
| * andypiper sobs quietly | 22:12 | |
| bigcalm | Myrtti: big reception? | 22:12 |
| andypiper | but but but i got it as far as 11.10 | 22:12 |
| bigcalm | andypiper: surprised that you got it to 11.10 | 22:13 |
| andypiper | release upgrades were fine that far | 22:13 |
| Myrtti | bigcalm: I might use them for invitations, for planting pots for guest favours, other stuff, and need material to experiment with too | 22:13 |
| bigcalm | This weekend I replaced my parents' Viglen MPC-L with my old Revo | 22:13 |
| bigcalm | Remote admin of their server is so much nicer now | 22:13 |
| bigcalm | Myrtti: fair enough :) | 22:14 |
| Myrtti | andypiper: mind you, the process of installing Debian on it was so easy I did cry a bit because it was so painful with Ubuntu | 22:14 |
| andypiper | my home server is the MPC-L and the media PC for the TV is the Revo | 22:14 |
| bigcalm | andypiper: give it a go :) | 22:14 |
| andypiper | hmm ok - as i am reading | 22:14 |
| jacobw | what is the mpc-l good for? | 22:14 |
| bigcalm | jacobw: door stop | 22:14 |
| bigcalm | jacobw: actually, no that as it's not very heavy | 22:14 |
| bigcalm | Paper weight | 22:14 |
| jacobw | is it good for media playback? | 22:15 |
| bigcalm | I now have 2 Viglen MPC-L doing nothing | 22:15 |
| andypiper | it's a basic webserver, weather station receiver, and power monitor (Current Cost USB-Serial) running mosquitto for me | 22:15 |
| Myrtti | sell them on ebay, or let me sell them for you | 22:15 |
| bigcalm | Hehe | 22:15 |
| andypiper | heavy lifting done elsewhere on my network now | 22:15 |
| * jacobw considers | 22:16 | |
| bigcalm | jacobw: they have no grunt at all | 22:16 |
| jacobw | if it had an adsl card, it'll be awesome :) | 22:16 |
| Myrtti | yeah I use mine as an irssi machine nowadays when I can't use my shared shell for that anymore | 22:16 |
| bigcalm | jacobw: they have several USB ports and an rj45. There's still a lot that can be done with them | 22:16 |
| andypiper | indeed | 22:16 |
| Myrtti | iplayer cache | 22:17 |
| Myrtti | that's what I use it for as well | 22:17 |
| bigcalm | Myrtti: do the ebay fees make it worth while? | 22:17 |
| Myrtti | bigcalm: I don't know, I don't use ebay | 22:17 |
| jacobw | i'm moving to germany soon, i don't what physical layer the ISP will provide | 22:18 |
| bigcalm | Oh, erm | 22:18 |
| bigcalm | I thought you meant let you sell them for me on ebay | 22:18 |
| Myrtti | but I know people are still interested in them since I mentioned I have one on my shell providers IRC channel | 22:18 |
| bigcalm | Ah, I see :) | 22:18 |
| jacobw | perhaps it'll be something i can connect a viglen-like machine to :) | 22:18 |
| bigcalm | It might be ok as a thin client. But I think that would be pushing it as well | 22:19 |
| jacobw | hmm | 22:19 |
| Myrtti | actually I'm not sure if I should buy one and set it up at my sisters in Finland | 22:20 |
| bigcalm | Myrtti: I was going to free cycle them. But if you think we'll make a bit of money, I'm in :) | 22:21 |
| bigcalm | Maybe I should give one to the oggcamp raffle, as I did with the penguin | 22:22 |
| Myrtti | maybe you should | 22:23 |
| Myrtti | they're still neat little boxes | 22:23 |
| bigcalm | Aye | 22:25 |
| * bigcalm looks for a low level formatter | 22:26 | |
| bigcalm | Or zero fill | 22:28 |
| bigcalm | DBAN looks good | 22:29 |
| Myrtti | yet again fallen for the eternal problem of opening a new tab on the browser promptly forgetting what I was doing | 22:46 |
| Myrtti | oh man. | 22:47 |
| daftykins | Myrtti: we still need a word for that | 22:50 |
| daftykins | society lacks a quick term | 22:50 |
| daftykins | "damn it i <new word here>!" | 22:50 |
| directhex | "brainfart" | 22:51 |
| daftykins | mmm too all-encompassing | 22:51 |
| Myrtti | tabnesia | 22:53 |
| daftykins | that's good | 22:53 |
| daftykins | but most of the time it happens to me when i get to search and forgot what i was gonna search for, or maybe open the browser in general | 22:54 |
| Myrtti | http://twitter.com/myrtti/status/196734496803012608 | 22:57 |
| daftykins | soon it shall be in the lexicon | 22:57 |
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