[00:18] yo [00:20] irc.helldive.org [00:34] Well that was odd. === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [09:52] good morning everyone, === feisar is now known as Guest42198 [11:02] rather windy out there [11:03] penguin - it's the wrong type of wind - same as wrong type of rain .. [11:03] this is a very damp drought [11:03] so.. 100 names for wind? [11:03] it is so wet that czajkowski didn't want to bounce on my trampoline [11:04] morning people. [11:04] \o [11:04] Alan - i dont want to see what UK's like out of drought then .. [11:04] morning TOS === feisar__ is now known as feisar [11:08] I fell in love last night... [11:08] With a beer. [11:08] Darwin's Origin. http://www.salopianbrewery.co.uk/beers.php It's absolutely perfect. [11:10] you know there are twelve different words in Gaelic for rain [11:10] but the only repeatable one translates as "water" [11:10] In Greenland they have several dozen for snow. [11:11] one gaelic word for rain is so obscene it's only ever been written down once [11:11] It is fantastically wet here today. [11:11] nice and sunny here [11:11] gordonjcp: "Belgium" [11:11] indeed [11:13] ubuntu-uk.org down? [11:13] so it would appear [11:14] hmm, and popey is on a plane so probably didn't break it [11:14] Daviey: o/ [11:14] I blame popey, even if he is on a plane. [11:14] maybe Daviey is on a plane too [11:14] maybe it's *because* popey is on a plane [11:14] yeah, lets go back to the default position and blame popey [11:14] maybe he took the server with him [11:14] maybe ubuntu-uk.org is actually running on popey's laptop [11:14] exactly [11:15] \o/ [11:21] * TheOpenSourcerer thinks he might update his main work desktop this afternoon. From 10.10 to 12.04. Will probably do a clean install... [11:21] * brobostigon thinks he might delay visiting the pub, considering the weather. [11:22] * TheOpenSourcerer will not be drinking anything alcoholic today. My Liver has taken a hammering for the last 3 days on the trot. Last night was a big night! :-D [11:23] :) good idea. [11:24] * brobostigon also doesnt want to get soaked. [11:24] brobostigon: You're assuming the weather is going to get better [11:25] penguin42: maybe, and yes, it probebly wont get better. anytime soon. [11:28] morning, is the website for the podcast down at the moment? [11:30] morning, is the website for the podcast down at the moment? [11:30] oops sorry [11:31] yes [11:31] blame popey [11:31] hahahaha why, what did popey do? [11:36] What's the fastest way to backup my ~/ dir over a LAN? [11:36] Just want to make a copy before rebuilding [11:36] rsync, i would guess. [11:37] or scp. [11:37] scp (encryption overhead) [11:37] cp ? [11:37] not a big problem these days unless your CPUs really suck [11:37] My server does - It's a VIAC700 downclocked ;-) [11:38] can you use cp like you do scp ? [11:38] What about nc? [11:38] Anyone used that recently [11:38] i am not familier with. [11:41] Think nc might be the way to go. http://blog.makezine.com/2008/11/14/linux-tip-superfast-network-fi/ [12:07] hi [12:07] i'm having issues upgrading 10.04 to 12.04 [12:08] it does not give me an option to upgrade in the update manager, even though I selected check for lts updates and rechecked for updates [12:08] If it's refusing to acknowledge the existence of a release, then I had the same problem. I cheated slightly. [12:08] how did you fix it? [12:09] Try running "update-manager -d", which checks for a development release. For some reason, Lucid seems to think Precise hasn't been released yet. [12:09] if I run that, will it keep updating it to the developer versions? [12:09] (every time a new version comes out?) [12:09] Nope, just to Precise. [12:09] will it also subscribe to the edge developer packages? [12:10] No; it just changes where it looks for a new release on that one invocation of the update manager. [12:10] okay, thanks a lot :) [12:11] You can test my assertion if you like - run update-manager -d, close it, and run without the flag. It won't show the new release as available the second time. [12:11] have a nice day [12:11] (only a partial test, sure) [12:11] You too. === angela-android is now known as nothingspecial [13:08] I'm not sure why I'm getting adverts for BUPA maritime insurance [13:08] penguin42: Have you looked out of the window today? [13:08] good point, a sale craft would work well to get to work [13:09] sail ? [13:09] We've just got back from church, even the vicar commented that todays reading would be the story of Noah :) [13:14] hello [13:21] hello! [13:22] Is totem reproducing youtube supposed to have worst resolution? [13:24] and my next question, [13:24] is there any reason, having all the 3rd party codecs installed, that some youtube videos cannot be reproduced in totem? [14:17] hmmm.. just logged onto my server and my screen session is gone :/ [14:18] anyone know why / how? [14:55] you logged out of the last member of it? You rebooted the box while you were away? [14:55] uptime == 24days [14:56] had +-10 tabs open, just clicked X on the local terminal (screen was in remote server) [14:57] dogmatic69: are you sure it's gone? [15:02] well I logged onto the server ran the cmd and blank. just one empty tab [15:03] Nafallo: ^ [15:07] dogmatic69: screen -list [15:17] Nafallo: only the one that I am currently in [15:17] well, den it's gone :-) [15:17] strange [15:18] maybe it was an update or something === It is now known as Cabbage [17:02] how would i get something like ucubed unconference or something similar where Iam in Paignton or south devon ? [17:05] zleap, its a bit off-topic. Try your local lug! [17:05] shit, thought this was #ubuntu :/ [17:05] http://www.dcglug.org.uk/ [17:07] paignton lacks transport links [17:07] can't see much benefit to having their IRC chan on another server [17:08] zleap: probably Bristol would be better as a place that is easy to get to [17:09] ok [17:09] we are on the main line down from bristol [17:11] ucubed is ubuntu related isn'tit [17:11] if you look at manchester and where it is in relation to liverpool, leeds, sheffield, birmingham etc you can see how it has a big catchment area [17:11] ok good point [17:11] just that we never get anything in Devon [17:12] ok on a side(ish) note would canonical support any efforts of the dclug to do something like this [17:13] probably not in any significant way [17:13] ok [17:13] you might get a conference pack of stuff, a few CDs a book and a couple of tshirts [17:13] that won't really help you fill a venue [17:13] ok [17:14] will chat to the lug [17:14] I'm attempting to install amazonmp3 in Ubuntu Precise and it says dependency is not satisfiable "libboost-filesystem1.34.1". Should I install it from an older release? [17:15] how much is a ticket from Paddington to Paignton and how long does it take? [17:15] about 4 hours I think [17:16] cheapest ticket is £81 [17:16] http://www.thetrainline.com/buytickets/combinedmatrix.aspx?Command=TimeTable [17:17] for may 29th (random future date entered) [17:19] AlanBell, i may send for some more 12.04 cd's from you at some point, I have sent an sae for a few from the pre-order batch offer [17:20] kvarley: worth a try [17:20] do they offer flash drives yet? [17:21] of new releases [17:21] i installed fuse (spectrum emulator) the other day and tried to associate sna and z80 files with fuse but in the open with box it can't even find fuse. [17:22] does it run as a terminal app? [17:22] not sure [17:22] i can run it from dash [17:22] it can run from terminal yes (terminal window) [17:23] i'd have seen an issue trying to call it if it does only work within a terminal [17:24] ok [17:24] well its in my launcher sidebar [17:24] I canload the emulator, i just wondered if I could click on a game and have that openwith fuse, in the same way a odt file opens with libreoffice [17:26] yeah [17:26] file association, that old chestnut [17:28] yep [17:28] there is a big list, even a option to look on like if I tclick open with [18:29] apparently my file server's host OS isn't quite stable right now :D [18:29] Handbrake killed it \o/ [18:40] I just tried LMDE, wasn't too impressed :/ === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [20:15] Hey interwebs people.... does anyone know of an interwebs company that won't do a 12 month contract? I need a contract for 2 months until I can get FTTC [20:15] who are you getting FTTC from? [20:16] AlanBell: Probably BT [20:16] * AlanBell has FTTC from plus.net [20:17] they are quite good really, it is technically BT that fit it (the BT engineer fits the termination box) [20:17] you can get ADSL from them and then upgrade to FTTC [20:17] AlanBell: I know :) But it's a new FTTC area I'm moving into. BT are doing it from June 30th, so Plus won't fit it for another couple of months [20:17] AlanBell: Hmmm..... have a feeling they might try and con me out of another fee for doing so [20:18] give them a call and arrange it in advance [20:18] Hmmm.. might try that tomorrow [20:18] Need to call the car insurance people anyway [20:18] you are more likely to be able to sort something out with them than with BT I expect [20:19] Current contract is with plus net [20:19] so shall lean on them a bit [20:20] * daubers gets a new house on Friday *\o/* [20:23] nice [20:26] I have no idea what this whole conversation is about, but in Finland I used my mobile for Internet connection for three months while living at mums and finally waiting to have ADSL installed at my apartment once I moved some years ago. Nobody complained when I used the connection to download two OpenSuSE DVD's on it on the first month [20:27] :-D [20:27] Myrtti: That would probably cost £lots over here! [20:27] I think I paid 15€ or something similar [20:28] as my mobile phone company charges by speed, not quota [20:28] Could turn the revo into a 3G router if the mobile signal is any good out there I suppose [20:37] anyone got a raspberry pi yet? [20:39] by speed is cool way to charge :) [20:44] jacobw: it makes more sense to me that charging by quota [20:44] s/that/than/ [20:44] quite [20:45] exceeding a quota does not cause conjestion _now_ [20:45] but since Finnish companies started selling iPhone the previously ubiquitous charge by speed policies have been revoked [20:45] not all of them, mind [21:14] Good evening peeps :) [21:16] good evening [21:21] sup bigcalm [21:22] A weekend away from home. What have I missed? [21:23] wonder did gord pack his tea bags [21:23] bigcalm: some rain... [21:23] dogmatic69: no worries, I got that while visiting my parents [21:23] all good then :) [21:28] scratch that [21:28] it was an island wide power cut [21:28] :D [21:32] * Myrtti is just about to publish the Debianizing of Viglen MPC-L blog entry [21:33] that rocks Myrtti [21:34] :o [22:08] * Myrtti prods ubuntuuk-planet [22:10] hmm planet ubuntu uk seems dead === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [22:10] yeah just got an e-mail saying that [22:10] ubuntu-uk.org is dead [22:10] as in, http [22:10] doh [22:10] aww. [22:11] in that case [22:11] popey: fix things! [22:11] http://myrtti.fi/blog/2012/04/30/viglen-mpc-l-from-xubuntu-10-04-lts-to-debian-stable/ [22:11] bigcalm: he's in a big flying metal tube [22:11] or recovering from the experience [22:11] Myrtti: that should not be an excuse in this day and age :D [22:11] Myrtti: how many books are you being sent? [22:12] bigcalm: asked fifteen just to be safe [22:12] Myrtti: wait - so i can't upgrade my MPC-L to 12.04? [22:12] andypiper: nope [22:12] Goodness [22:12] * andypiper sobs quietly [22:12] Myrtti: big reception? [22:12] but but but i got it as far as 11.10 [22:13] andypiper: surprised that you got it to 11.10 [22:13] release upgrades were fine that far [22:13] bigcalm: I might use them for invitations, for planting pots for guest favours, other stuff, and need material to experiment with too [22:13] This weekend I replaced my parents' Viglen MPC-L with my old Revo [22:13] Remote admin of their server is so much nicer now [22:14] Myrtti: fair enough :) [22:14] andypiper: mind you, the process of installing Debian on it was so easy I did cry a bit because it was so painful with Ubuntu [22:14] my home server is the MPC-L and the media PC for the TV is the Revo [22:14] andypiper: give it a go :) [22:14] hmm ok - as i am reading [22:14] what is the mpc-l good for? [22:14] jacobw: door stop [22:14] jacobw: actually, no that as it's not very heavy [22:14] Paper weight [22:15] is it good for media playback? [22:15] I now have 2 Viglen MPC-L doing nothing [22:15] it's a basic webserver, weather station receiver, and power monitor (Current Cost USB-Serial) running mosquitto for me [22:15] sell them on ebay, or let me sell them for you [22:15] Hehe [22:15] heavy lifting done elsewhere on my network now [22:16] * jacobw considers [22:16] jacobw: they have no grunt at all [22:16] if it had an adsl card, it'll be awesome :) [22:16] yeah I use mine as an irssi machine nowadays when I can't use my shared shell for that anymore [22:16] jacobw: they have several USB ports and an rj45. There's still a lot that can be done with them [22:16] indeed [22:17] iplayer cache [22:17] that's what I use it for as well [22:17] Myrtti: do the ebay fees make it worth while? [22:17] bigcalm: I don't know, I don't use ebay [22:18] i'm moving to germany soon, i don't what physical layer the ISP will provide [22:18] Oh, erm [22:18] I thought you meant let you sell them for me on ebay [22:18] but I know people are still interested in them since I mentioned I have one on my shell providers IRC channel [22:18] Ah, I see :) [22:18] perhaps it'll be something i can connect a viglen-like machine to :) [22:19] It might be ok as a thin client. But I think that would be pushing it as well [22:19] hmm [22:20] actually I'm not sure if I should buy one and set it up at my sisters in Finland [22:21] Myrtti: I was going to free cycle them. But if you think we'll make a bit of money, I'm in :) [22:22] Maybe I should give one to the oggcamp raffle, as I did with the penguin [22:23] maybe you should [22:23] they're still neat little boxes [22:25] Aye [22:26] * bigcalm looks for a low level formatter [22:28] Or zero fill [22:29] DBAN looks good [22:46] yet again fallen for the eternal problem of opening a new tab on the browser promptly forgetting what I was doing [22:47] oh man. [22:50] Myrtti: we still need a word for that [22:50] society lacks a quick term [22:50] "damn it i !" [22:51] "brainfart" [22:51] mmm too all-encompassing [22:53] tabnesia [22:53] that's good [22:54] but most of the time it happens to me when i get to search and forgot what i was gonna search for, or maybe open the browser in general [22:57] http://twitter.com/myrtti/status/196734496803012608 [22:57] soon it shall be in the lexicon