| tgm4883 | How can you take a screenshot of a unity search | 05:40 |
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| mhall119 | tgm4883: set a delay in gnome-screenshot, then do the search and wait for the timer to take the screenshot | 15:21 |
| tgm4883 | mhall119, I did that, it still didn't get the search | 15:41 |
| tgm4883 | mhall119, odd, I just took like 15 screenshots testing and it finally was able to get it | 15:53 |
| matelot | Just installed 12.04, everything default (Unity): how to change desktop icon to just clean SMALL, same-size icons ? | 16:14 |
| jkd | how exactly does window maximization happen? how does the window avoid overlapping the launcher and top panel? | 18:09 |
| jkd | i'm asking because when i move the launcher to the right, windows still maximize within the area to the right of the launcher (and i'd like it to use the area to the left) | 18:10 |
| jkd | (are any of the unity developers in this channel? i'm not sure this is the right place to ask questions about implementation) | 18:11 |
| JanC | jkd: you can't move the launcher to the right... | 18:20 |
| JanC | unless you use a patched version of Unity | 18:21 |
| Daekdroom | JanC, I think that's what he's trying to accomplish. | 18:21 |
| jkd | i'm working on that patch. | 18:21 |
| jkd | i realize it won't be accepted officially, but i still want to give it a shot. | 18:22 |
| jkd | looking at the source code for compiz grid, it seems there's something called a workarea (the area of the desktop not covered by panel or launcher) | 18:22 |
| JanC | AFAIK the window manager has some knowledge about what area to use, so in case of Unity that would be Compiz | 18:23 |
| jkd | that's correct, but how? specifically, how do i tell it that the work area is to the /left/ of the launcher, not the right? | 18:24 |
| JanC | http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-latest.html#id2577280 | 18:24 |
| jkd | what exactly are struts? is that how the window manager snaps window edges to each other? | 18:27 |
| jkd | i greped for _NET in the unity source and didn't see anything. maybe it's done inside of nux? | 18:27 |
| JanC | jkd: I would expect it to be in the compiz source, and then made available somehow to plugins like Unity | 18:28 |
| JanC | but I'm not a WM or X expert... | 18:29 |
| jkd | no worries, at least i got a reply finally :) | 18:30 |
| jkd | my god, X / compiz / nux / unity is overwhelming | 18:30 |
| JanC | jkd: that freedesktop spec is something you probably want to bookmark, as it describes the X properties/messages used to influence how a (modern) WM behaves | 18:33 |
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| JanC | that and the ICCCM spec | 18:35 |
| jkd | xwininfo -a is semi-helpful | 18:37 |
| thomi | Morning everyone | 20:22 |
| jkd | thomi: good morning. you wouldn't happen to be a developer, would you? | 20:33 |
| thomi | jkd: that depends on what you need :) | 20:34 |
| jkd | well, i'm trying to move the launcher to the right side | 20:34 |
| jkd | that was easy to do, except when i maximize windows it tries to maximize them to the /right/ of hte launcher still. trying to figure out why | 20:34 |
| jkd | i think the solution might involve struts, somehow | 20:34 |
| thomi | jkd: hmm, It sounds like you need someone who understands compiz & X11... | 20:35 |
| jkd | thomi: yeah. should i post on the unity-dev list? | 20:35 |
| jkd | i feel like a pest, since officially, this change won't be accepted anyway. | 20:36 |
| jkd | ;) | 20:36 |
| thomi | jkd: You could try there.,.. or perhaps smcloud might know | 20:36 |
| thomi | ...but no one will be awake yet - I'm in an odd timezone, so for most people it's still the weekend | 20:36 |
| jkd | it's 4:30 pm on sunday here, heh | 20:36 |
| thomi | Most Canonical folk take the weekend off :) | 20:37 |
| jkd | what tz are they in usually? | 20:37 |
| thomi | jkd: all over the world. US, Europe, Asia, | 20:38 |
| thomi | I'm in New Zealand, so I get to work while everyone else is still having their Sunday | 20:39 |
| jkd | that's cool. i'm in canada. maybe i'll have better luck tomorrow :) | 20:40 |
| thomi | good luck :) | 20:41 |
| matelot | what happened to #ubuntu ? | 22:20 |
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