[05:40] How can you take a screenshot of a unity search === michael_ is now known as michael_rawson === jacky is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as jacky [15:21] tgm4883: set a delay in gnome-screenshot, then do the search and wait for the timer to take the screenshot [15:41] mhall119, I did that, it still didn't get the search [15:53] mhall119, odd, I just took like 15 screenshots testing and it finally was able to get it [16:14] Just installed 12.04, everything default (Unity): how to change desktop icon to just clean SMALL, same-size icons ? [18:09] how exactly does window maximization happen? how does the window avoid overlapping the launcher and top panel? [18:10] i'm asking because when i move the launcher to the right, windows still maximize within the area to the right of the launcher (and i'd like it to use the area to the left) [18:11] (are any of the unity developers in this channel? i'm not sure this is the right place to ask questions about implementation) [18:20] jkd: you can't move the launcher to the right... [18:21] unless you use a patched version of Unity [18:21] JanC, I think that's what he's trying to accomplish. [18:21] i'm working on that patch. [18:22] i realize it won't be accepted officially, but i still want to give it a shot. [18:22] looking at the source code for compiz grid, it seems there's something called a workarea (the area of the desktop not covered by panel or launcher) [18:23] AFAIK the window manager has some knowledge about what area to use, so in case of Unity that would be Compiz [18:24] that's correct, but how? specifically, how do i tell it that the work area is to the /left/ of the launcher, not the right? [18:24] http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-latest.html#id2577280 [18:27] what exactly are struts? is that how the window manager snaps window edges to each other? [18:27] i greped for _NET in the unity source and didn't see anything. maybe it's done inside of nux? [18:28] jkd: I would expect it to be in the compiz source, and then made available somehow to plugins like Unity [18:29] but I'm not a WM or X expert... [18:30] no worries, at least i got a reply finally :) [18:30] my god, X / compiz / nux / unity is overwhelming [18:33] jkd: that freedesktop spec is something you probably want to bookmark, as it describes the X properties/messages used to influence how a (modern) WM behaves === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:35] that and the ICCCM spec [18:37] xwininfo -a is semi-helpful [20:22] Morning everyone [20:33] thomi: good morning. you wouldn't happen to be a developer, would you? [20:34] jkd: that depends on what you need :) [20:34] well, i'm trying to move the launcher to the right side [20:34] that was easy to do, except when i maximize windows it tries to maximize them to the /right/ of hte launcher still. trying to figure out why [20:34] i think the solution might involve struts, somehow [20:35] jkd: hmm, It sounds like you need someone who understands compiz & X11... [20:35] thomi: yeah. should i post on the unity-dev list? [20:36] i feel like a pest, since officially, this change won't be accepted anyway. [20:36] ;) [20:36] jkd: You could try there.,.. or perhaps smcloud might know [20:36] ...but no one will be awake yet - I'm in an odd timezone, so for most people it's still the weekend [20:36] it's 4:30 pm on sunday here, heh [20:37] Most Canonical folk take the weekend off :) [20:37] what tz are they in usually? [20:38] jkd: all over the world. US, Europe, Asia, [20:39] I'm in New Zealand, so I get to work while everyone else is still having their Sunday [20:40] that's cool. i'm in canada. maybe i'll have better luck tomorrow :) [20:41] good luck :) [22:20] what happened to #ubuntu ?