[00:52] on 12.04 livecd.. i don't see the usb creator.. whats the name of it? so i can install it === joseph_ is now known as CtC [01:24] I was wondering about Kubuntu can any one tell me about the KDE Desktop Experence. === leftist is now known as sambagirl [01:56] argle bargle [01:57] so weird... my znc just messed up on my pogoplug out of the blue [02:02] * deskfrag beats his pogoplug with a stick [02:43] What ati catalyst is in the repo.. 12.2 12.3 or 12.4 [02:50] What version of ATI Catalyst is in the 12.04 repo?? [02:57] everyone fall asleep!! === ybit is now known as dailybitcoins === pants is now known as Guest22904 === dailybitcoins is now known as ybit [04:44] help [04:50] i need help with the grub screen, I recently installed kubuntu and I am stuck on the grub screen havent even used linux YET [04:56] i need help with the grub screen, I recently installed kubuntu and I am stuck on the grub screen havent even used linux YET [04:56] i need help with the grub screen, I recently installed kubuntu and I am stuck on the grub screen havent even used linux YET [04:56] i need help with the grub screen, I recently installed kubuntu and I am stuck on the grub screen havent even used linux YET [04:56] idgafsmd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. === mjkowalski is now known as Tasker_the_Fox === AD is now known as Guest49990 === ubuntu is now known as antonella === AD is now known as Guest9259 [07:01] Hi [07:03] I have installed "ubuntu extras" for codecs etc. This package have also installed ms fonts. After reboot my system have very little and ugly font. How can I restore the original font and dimension ? [07:30] hey [07:46] hi @ll, kubuntu 12.04 amd64: my pc hangs on "system_call_fastpath" if i try to startup from the live CD, cd md5sum is ok. i have seen a lot results on google but noone have a fix for this... any hints? [08:33] go1972 [08:35] go1972 [08:38] whats a good size swap file for kubuntu on the end half of a TB drive? [08:39] considering a Darwin or OSX for the first half lol :) [08:39] oh crap that means I need guid partitioning right? [08:40] my kubuntu feisty probably doesn't support GPT! ugh! [08:40] that means I probably shouldn't use it to partition which means I should get myself a more current iso :( [09:07] hi. can anyone tell a good program for removing exif information? [09:17] apparently theres a program called jhead that removes exif data [09:18] for anyone interested since the original person who asked has left already === root is now known as Guest78467 [09:22] I restarted kubuntu multiple times, and I never get upgrade to 12.04 from muon upgrader? How do I manually initiate the install process? [09:26] Hmm why does it feels like I already have 12.04 installed? No new packages and no new dist is found hmm and have Kmix issues since long time ago. [09:44] Oxymoron: you can check with `cat /etc/issue`, I updated from 11.10 last saturday, doens't feel really different tbh [09:46] lsb_release -a will confirm your current version [09:47] rork: Hmm it says I have 11.10 ... And yeah doesnt feel any difference except more bugs ... [09:48] Oxymoron: what does lsb_release -a show [09:48] No LSB modules are available. [09:48] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [09:48] Description: Ubuntu 11.10 [09:48] Release: 11.10 [09:48] Codename: oneiric [09:48] Oxymoron: ok, so you are still on 11.10 [09:48] Oxymoron: /etc/issue is not to be trusted as a way of verifying your release. [09:48] you are not running 12.04 [09:48] so your comment about "more bugs" is wrong [09:48] So how to upgrade into 12.04 [09:48] !upgrade | Oxymoron [09:48] Oxymoron: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [09:49] Oxymoron: next time you want to try to bad mouth a distro, try to make sure you are actually running the one you want to bad mouth, it will at least give you an inch of credability [09:50] ikonia: Sorry :/ [09:51] ikonia: And I have followed instructions on both Kubuntu and Ubuntu websites to upgrade. i never get any upgrade popup or notice anywehre? [09:51] Oxymoron: thats fine, you've now lost all credability with me [09:51] as you "want" to find a problem (see your above commment) I now don't believe anything you say/put it down to user error [09:52] everyone else is upgrading fine, you're not, so it's most likley user error [09:56] ikonia: Because I am used to find problems, I am freaking sick of computers I really hate it, IT world is incompetent of doign any decent hardware or software, ever. And even we build the world upon digital techniques and computers, really? I am sick of it. It is okay if you think its a PEBCAK, I dont care as that is not the problem. [09:56] sounds like user error [09:58] Followed every manual to upgrade out there, nothing works. never get anywhere where I can launch the upgrade process. It can be errors even though others managed to upgrade. [09:58] sounds like user error [09:58] please tell me how you think you should upgrade from kubuntu 11.10 to kubuntu 12.04 [09:58] please tell me the steps you think you should follow [10:01] ikonia: Sure, first update all packages with muon updater (Been there done that), reboot computer, then it will notice me upgrade is available. If not I try to launch muon myself and check (been there doen that) and if not work at this stage reboot and try once more (Been there done that). At this stage I just give up. [10:01] Oxymoron: right, so lets check some basics [10:01] 1.) sudo apt-get update [10:01] done yes/no ? [10:01] ikonia: Yes of course [10:02] 2.) alt+f2 run muon-updater [10:02] yes [10:02] do you get prompted for updates ? [10:02] no [10:02] good, so that confirms you are up to date with the earlier apt-get update [10:02] I have all latest packages as no new updates is found. [10:02] Then I should reboot, right? [10:03] yes, and from what you are saying kdenotify does not offer a new release correct ? [10:03] yes [10:04] ok, so if you run "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f kde -d" what happens ? [10:04] (use kdesudo please) [10:05] ikonia: It says no new release is found. [10:06] what's the output of "uname -a" on your system ? [10:06] Linux ubuntu 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [10:06] ok, so that is still the 11.10 setup [10:07] what is your release profile set to in software sources ? [10:08] I suspect it's normal releases only [10:08] ikonia: Where do I check release profile? [10:10] Oxymoron: open software sources [10:10] yes [10:11] it's in there [10:11] the release upgrade profile should say either "normal" or "lts" releases. [10:11] "lts releases only" [10:11] #set it to "lts releases only" [10:11] so you can see the lts release. [10:13] I have LTS only [10:16] ikonia: Well not I changed from LTS only to normal, and now finally I got the upgrade notice ... So I guess it was not user error, rather bug in muon that do not release upgrade if you have LTS profile, even though 12.04 is LTS. [10:18] ikonia: Anyway thanks for your help :) [10:44] Oxymoron: sorry I was in a meeting [10:44] Oxymoron: I doubt very much you did have "LTS only" as you managed to upgrade to 11.10, / use 11.10 which is not LTS [10:45] hi guys!!! [10:46] Morning to ya DoctorPepper [10:48] ikonia: No problem. Well maybe I accidently changed to LTS profile after upgrade to 11.10? [10:49] i need some help after upgrading to 12.04 from 11.10 when i try to install any packages i get a long list of package to autoremove. http://paste.ubuntu.com/957204/ i dont know if can safely remove them without breaking my system === jacky is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as jacky [10:53] Oxymoron: doubtful, as you'd get the upgrade if it was LTS profiles [10:53] (with 12.04 being an LTS build) [10:54] ikonia: Well apparantly 12.04 was not detected as LTS in my system somehow, even though I hade LTS profile. [10:55] Oxymoron: I suspect you may have read it wrong/changed it but not applied it something like that [10:59] Could also be a bug ... but yeah always the users fault. === smz is now known as DoctorPepper [11:06] hello [11:08] kubuntu channel not so chatty today? [11:17] Oxymoron: I've just done a test on a VM and it worked flawlessly [11:18] Oxymoron: hence why I'm suggesting it's most likley user error, as it's working for the majority of people, the few cases I've seen people complain about have been a user error situation, and my test just worked flawlessly, [11:18] plus from what you've said, doesn't make sense so again, more likley to be a user error [11:21] Hello, can anybody help me with my touchpad/mouse settings? I need to reduce the right-click detection delay because the right-click menu is triggered when I do kde gestures a bit fast and it is really annoying. I have already tried many options even with synclient but they don't solve the problem. Any idea? [11:21] ok [11:28] what package contains an process "Mail Dispatcher Agent" (complaining me periodically about some akonadi problem)? [11:48] reisi: dpkg -l | grep mail [11:51] seth2012 [12:00] The right-click menu appears if it the button has been hold less than X time. Where can I change it? [12:00] xcv_: what? [12:01] hey all :) uh how to make a new GPT disk? [12:01] its currently blank (afaik unpartitioned disk) [12:01] xcv_: what?ì [12:01] ForgeAus: gpt? [12:01] Peace-: When I do mouse gestures (right button) a bit fast the menu is triggered [12:02] GUID Partitioning scheme like on mac [12:02] Peace-: How can I make it require a faster click to open? [12:02] ForgeAus: you have to do a partition ? [12:02] its instead of MBR [12:02] ForgeAus: partitionmanager [12:03] yes partition manager can create ones but doesn't that do mbr partitions if I just create? [12:03] how do I know if I'm creating mbr or gpt partitions? [12:03] mbr is the boot [12:03] partition it has an * [12:03] that's probably to mark it as an active partition [12:03] thats not what matters to me [12:04] mbr is the first partition on the disk [12:04] always [12:04] uh? [12:04] MBR stands for master boot record [12:05] yes [12:05] it doesn't create GUID partitions that way [12:05] ForgeAus: http://paste.kde.org/466100 [12:05] I'm looking at creating a GPT not MBR disk [12:05] with GPT partitions (an EFI, a darwin, a Kubuntu and linux swap) [12:06] I already have a whole (misbehaving) Win7 disk lol [12:06] thats MBR [12:06] but this second one I want GPT isntead [12:06] sorry i dunno what you are trying to do [12:07] I get what your trying to say [12:07] I just don't know how to do things the GPT way instead of MBR [12:08] check out this Peace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table [12:08] Hi, I've newly installed Kubuntu. I'm disturbed to see that the various window titlebars are uncolored -- they blend right in with the rest of the window. I see a bug filed against this in 2007. Surely there's at least a workaround by now? [12:09] Also, my topmost window glows! Can this be turned off? [12:09] I think so [12:10] glows and stuff can be altered in the system-settings appearance I would suggest [12:10] xiong: you can change the titlebar theme or configure it in system settings -> workspace appearance. [12:10] I haven't exactly tried turning it off though [12:10] xiong: the blue stuff around windows? [12:10] Yes, ForgeAus, xcv_; that's where I am. And the system doesn't seem to respond. [12:10] personally I thought it was awesome :) but hey if you don't like it [12:10] xcv_: oxygen-settings on a terminal [12:10] I've been able to change fonts okay. [12:11] xiong, thats strange [12:11] it should work [12:11] xcv_: where is the right-click menu setting? [12:11] Peace-:* [12:11] xcv_: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-ui1784 [12:11] appearance tab has lots of things you can change, window decorators and stuff should be there, not sure what part of oxygen does the glow exactly [12:11] ForgeAus: I'll go further. When I opened the 'Colors' subpanel, there was already a color set for Active Titlebar. [12:12] xiong: choose another color scheme [12:13] Unfortunately, I'm on a seriously underpowered machine. I would like to go through and turn off as many effects and eye candy as possible. [12:13] Peace-: My problem is that i need to reduce maximum time that right click needs to be hold to open the right-click menu [12:13] xiong: ctrl+alt+f12 [12:13] xiong: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-low-fat-settings [12:13] you can turn off all special effects from system-settings [12:13] xiong: mayus+alt+f12 sorry [12:14] xcv_: I have no idea what you just proposed. [12:14] xiong: just install kubuntu-low-fat-settings [12:14] Peace-: Let me see if I can figure out how to get a terminal. [12:14] xiong: ALT F2=======> konsole [12:15] xiong: shift+alt+f12 is a shortcut to stop compositing, i mistyped, sorry [12:16] Well, Alt-F2 worked under GNOME, after I'd so configured it. I'm astonished that it's that way already in Kubuntu. But I'm there anyway. [12:16] xcv_: here is is instantaneous [12:17] xiong: :S http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-nw1784 [12:17] xcv_: Let's hope I don't have to go as far as turning off all compositing; that might be drastic. [12:18] No manual entry for kubuntu-low-fat-settings [12:18] Peace-: But it also opens if I do fast gestures, so it isn't as instantaneous as I need it. Can it be configured? [12:18] omg [12:18] xiong: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-low-fat-settings [12:18] xiong: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-low-fat-settings [12:18] xiong: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-low-fat-settings [12:18] Peace-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [12:19] Ah yes, Peace-; done. [12:19] Now I'm searching web for instructions on how to use it. [12:19] xiong: you don't need [12:19] xiong: create a new user and you will see [12:19] or [12:19] rename ~/.kde [12:20] * Peace- you will lost your own configuration renaming that folder i suggest to create a new user [12:20] Well, let's stick with the user I've got, eh? [12:21] This may be an overly drastic solution. [12:21] low fat settings automatically turns off compositing [12:21] ForgeAus: you can turn on it after [12:21] but it doens't do only that [12:21] true Peace :) [12:22] Yes; may be overly drastic. Right now, I'll settle for (a) turning off the glow; (b) getting titlebar color; and (c) stop the cursor from bouncing a cute icon when I launch something. [12:22] xiong: bounching => http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-ii1784 [12:22] ??? [12:23] xiong: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-kc1784 [12:24] Would you explain that please? I was born in another century, when we tended to lean toward complete sentences. Sorry. [12:24] a) => oxygen-settings [12:24] b) => change color scheme [12:24] :S [12:25] bye have luck! [12:25] Sorry; but as I explained, changing the color scheme does not color the titlebar. I don't know why; the titlebar color simple is not honored. [12:26] This bug, filed in 2007, and with much discussion consequent, appears to describe my experience exactly: http://old.nabble.com/-Bug-152030--New:-oxygen-window-decoration-does-not-honor-titlebar-color-td13655764.html [12:27] xiong: => http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-qn1784 [12:27] xiong: use plastick [12:27] actually its the window decorator perhaps? [12:27] use a different window decorator [12:29] hello, Can I install unity on kubuntu 12.04? [12:29] yes [12:29] you could get ubuntu-desktop package [12:30] wielkifreeman: unity? [12:30] or even just install the sudo apt-get install unity package [12:30] wielkifreeman: but why? [12:30] its very anti-kde of course :) but its doable [12:31] only for fun [12:31] Plastique also ignores Active Tiltlebar... and Inactive Titlebar, too. [12:31] plastique wigets or plastique decorator? [12:32] in the style tab its just for widgets [12:32] wielkifreeman: you can get this http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-al8937 [12:32] Good question, ForgeAus. Let me study this. [12:32] xiong: no it's your system that has some kind of problem [12:33] xiong: or yours color scheme [12:33] xiong: in oxygen-settings you can make it draw a separator in the active window using the oxygen theme: window decorator -> detailed settings [12:33] You do know, there is no particular 'window decorator' section in the System Settings? [12:33] as you can see here http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-tg8937 === leftist is now known as samgagirl [12:34] xiong: desktop appearance [12:34] there is both workspace appearance and application appearance [12:34] application one does icon themes, widget styles, etc... === samgagirl is now known as sambagirl [12:34] workspace appearance does decorators [12:34] Okay, 'Workspace Appearance'. That I see. [12:35] cursor theme [12:35] etc [12:35] xiong: yes [12:35] Peace - it is beautifull, thanks [12:35] Ah, that is *much* better. [12:35] Doesn't glow anymore, either. [12:36] :) [12:36] xiong: you may want to try this too: http://6g6.eu/sih0-screenshot62.png [12:36] wielkifreeman: that stuff is called plasma panel collection [12:36] wielkifreeman: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=147589 [12:36] Which will stop the bouncing cursor? [12:37] Sorry, xcv_; I can't read that language. [12:37] xiong: the option is in the same place, though ;) [12:37] xiong: .... system settings => applicatin and system notifications [12:38] xiong: then http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-ds8937 [12:38] busy cursor [12:38] .... [12:39] wielkifreeman: then you should get this stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzEty1TYAE [12:39] Found it. Okay, that's the worst of it. I couldn't tolerate the defaults; they were interfering with my ability to set anything else, or even dig around for ways to change things. [12:39] Thanks xcv_, Peace-, ForgeAus. [12:39] your welcome [12:40] Time for this puppy to hit the rack. Won't finish this task in a day. [12:41] didn't oxygen air used to have interlinked roudned box watermarks in it? [12:44] * Peace- exit [12:49] brb switching to konversation [12:58] I had to re install ubuntu due to all the crashes I got in kubuntu to that multi colored screen which required a hard reset of the laptop :( [12:58] having the OS crash every few minutes and not knowing why isn't fun [12:58] Hi all [13:02] any updates/upgrades since the release , or is my repos server behind the curve ? [13:03] georgelappies, could be your graphic driver [13:06] Hi BluesKaj, I tried multiple times with ATI proprietary and without. It worked perfectly in 11.10 so far "touch wood" no crashes in ubuntu [13:10] georgelappies, odd , usually both desktops work well with the same drivers [13:12] But ubuntu uses lightdm and kubuntu uses kdm. maybe its kdm?? [13:13] Thing is I tried looking for any log files that could give an indication of why, but to no avail. It is as though when it happens it freezes so fast that no logs have time to update [13:16] hmm, one would think kwin would be the culprit [13:18] yip, it does look like that. The crashes I got during boot never happened in the period before X starts to initialize, always exactly at that point or after. Maybe its not kdm but something X doesn't like in kdm?? but yeah with no logs hard to tell [13:18] georgelappies, kdm is working on a lot of ati equipped laptops [13:27] BBL ...errands [13:35] anybody there able to answer a question about activities? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:38] hello, i'm trying to install LanguageTool for libreoffice, but i'm getting the following error when adding the extension: http://i.imgur.com/mLjr3.png === gramaaaar is now known as babalu === philippe is now known as Guest28236 [14:06] hi im new to ubuntu 11.10 ... is it better than Kubuntu ? what do u think? [14:07] wrong place to ask that i think, evilwolverine... [14:07] :P [14:08] evilwolverine, KDE's a tiny bit more resource intensive in 11.10 than GNOME/Unity, but its prettier in my opinion [14:08] u are all going to say kubuntu right? lol [14:08] evilwolverine: neither are better they are however different [14:08] evilwolverine: ive used both [14:08] and what Kalidarn says is iaccurate [14:08] neither is better than the other, but they're substantially different [14:08] i do prever KDE at this point in time more feature rich [14:08] EvilResistance: yeah that's what i meant [14:08] lol [14:09] Is anyone else having trouble renaming activities in 12.04? I'm new to kubuntu, but can't find the settings for activities. [14:09] I'd have expected to be albe to right-click on an activity in the activity manager. [14:10] I want to forget about microsoft ... it was giving me so much trouble ... so I moved to opensource ... I like it so far.. I hope Office 2010 works fine in wine cuz thats the only thing I need from Microsoft for now [14:12] !wine [14:12] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [14:12] !AppDB [14:12] The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help [14:13] check the appdb ;P [14:13] it'll tell you for various programs whether it works well or not [14:14] kool ... thanx! .. what do you for a living EvilResistance? r u a programmer? [14:14] !r [14:14] ugh, you evil bot [14:14] !u [14:14] U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' nor 'Ur' are words in the English language. Neither are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'ryt', 'Ne1' nor 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information. [14:14] there we are [14:15] evilwolverine, see that message from ubottu ;P [14:16] and to answer your question, I'm an IT Security person :P [14:18] ... awesome... how old r u ?? I want to continue my studies ... back home (Guatemala) I studied programming for 2 years [14:18] evilwolverine, we're not here to discuss the merits of desktops , however if you have specific question about kubuntu other than an opinion about it , then please ask your question [14:18] oh ... ok BluesKaj .. xD [14:19] away I go now .... Ill get out of your hair xD ... :) [14:20] evilwolverine, EvilResistance , your converstion can be continued in #kubuntu-offtopic === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 === will is now known as Guest95319 === Guest95319 is now known as wiill [14:54] was in mint 12.. installed kubuntu 12.04 last night.. Think this is ubuntu's best!! boot time faster.. apt-get faster.. smaller memory useage [14:58] Hi [15:02] maybe somebody can help me: I have installed kubuntu 12.04 and averything was OK. After the installation of kubuntu-restricted-extras I have a very tiny font. Is there a global font size setting ? I have not modify the character dimension in system setting [15:02] (sorry for my bad english) [15:03] Why this happened ? [15:03] spacetime|2, kmenu>computer>system settings>application appearance>fonts [15:05] BluesKaj: yes, I know that setting page but I haven't modify it. Probably there is another global font size setting [15:05] spacetime|2, choose adjust all fonts [15:06] mm sorry ma this is a workaround , not the real solution [15:07] I wìsh understand why that pakage modify font size [15:07] a workaround wouldn't be in the system settings ..if you want you open system settings with root permissions , if that's what you are complaining about in terms of global [15:09] spacetime|2, it probly increased your screen resolution , hence the smaller fonts === James1479 is now known as James147 [15:10] one remedy is to increase the dpi as well [15:11] thanks BluesKaj. Is known the cause of the font size alteration after installing that package? [15:12] I am referring to kubuntu-restricted-extras [15:12] how do I enable multiple abs in kate? [15:13] oops [15:13] tabs* [15:17] BluesKaj: thanks.. I have increased DPI to 96 and everythink look good [15:17] spacetime|2, it may be that, also other apps that affect screen resolution and X that you may have upgraded since installing 12.04 [15:19] spacetime|2, what's your screen resolution ? [15:19] 1240x1024 [15:19] 1280 maybe ops [15:20] ok , 96dpi is good [15:22] tankyou again BluesKaj. I exit because I have to reboot the system...see you :) [15:32] Guys i need to use ftp through terminal for file transfer but i get error as "clear text session are not allowed in this server" can somebody help me solving this issue please? [15:32] try sftp [15:35] maco: i think sftp has different syntax, could you please give an example? [15:35] benson: sftp user@server, just like you'd ftp user@server [15:36] benson: sftp is encrypted though === massimo_ is now known as Guest6230 [15:39] maco: nothing s happening :( cursor is blinking below that line [15:39] benson: it didnt ask for the user password? [15:39] use "put" command to put something on the server and "get" or "mget" (depends on server config) to get something from it [15:41] maco: nope, now i got an error message as "ssh : connect to host example.com port:22 connection timed out" [15:41] maco: my hosting server doesnt support ssh actually [15:42] benson: im confused then. i dont know how they want it not-clear-text but not ftp-over-ssh (sftp) [15:42] maco: i had connected to the host through filezilla using ftpes://example.com and it worked fine [15:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTPS which is apparently that [15:43] huh. hadnt come across that one before [15:44] maco: yeah seems strange to me too :) [15:44] maco: by the way thanks for guiding. bye [15:44] what needs to happen to get thunderbird to use the message indicator again after updating 12.04? [15:47] NJL, I just installed the latest thunderbird and the message notifier in the panel works ok , if that's what you mean [15:48] BluesKaj: I'm using the version that comes with kubuntu [15:48] BluesKaj: should I get the last from mozilla's site? [15:49] BluesKaj: I'm talking about the message indicator (the little envelope) [15:50] NJL, do you mean a widget ? [15:50] BluesKaj: yeah, I guess so? [15:50] heh [15:51] NJL, I installed thunderbird from the repos [15:51] ok, same here [15:51] weird === Briamini is now known as Guest33709 [15:56] NJL, I don't recall a message indicator with thunderbird , this is the first I've used it in a long time [15:57] got tired of webmail ads , so I decided to put a layer between me and webcommercials :) [15:59] BBL === forgeaus is now known as ForgeAus === withelm__ is now known as withelm === claudio is now known as Guest51435 === lpnet is now known as lpnet_ === lpnet_ is now known as lpnet__ === lpnet__ is now known as lpnet [16:56] hello [16:56] QUIT [17:00] !quit [17:01] uh... [17:17] hi [17:22] On Kubuntu 12.04 which file contains the settings of the global parameters of the font and anti-aliasing? anyone know it ? [17:30] hi [18:11] thank you for this awesome operating system === Anusko_ is now known as Anusko === BlouBlou_ is now known as BlouBlou [19:52] Hmm. System Settings > Application Appearance > Style > Configure... >Tabs has a setting for 'Inactive Tabs Style'; the choices are 'Single' and 'Plain'. What does this do? I'm unable to see any change. [20:13] Okay. How about... I have the 'Laptop' Window Decorations set; I like it... but there seems to be no 'Menu' button available. Fix? Similar? [20:24] xiong, do I understand correctly that you chose the netbook configuration? [20:24] Um, no. I'm just looking for a set of Window Decorations I can live with. [20:26] This doesn't seem to be a one-off issue. I'm finding the Chrome set by scnd101 tolerable but it has no 'Help' button. I can probably live without that, more so than without the 'Menu' button. But it's annoying. [20:26] If you click on the 'cashew'-like launcher in the right upper corner, you can choose all kinds of widgets on your screen. Or do you mean something else? [20:26] I mean Window Decorations, for standard application windows. [20:26] I have not even dipped my toe into widgets. [20:27] you'll be surprised ;-) [20:27] Yah, maybe. This machine is antique and extremely underpowered. I'm looking to reduce the UI to something approaching Mac OS 9. [20:28] I want the bare minimum of chrome, everywhere. [20:28] I want big buttons, blatant, crude buttons, obvious everything. [20:29] Try Windows 8... No, that's a joke. What kind of specs does the machine have, GHz, RAM? [20:30] 2 GHz, single core, 1 MB. The HD is small and slow. [20:30] low fat was too heavy? [20:30] My laptop died, this is an emergency machine. [20:30] No obvious way to make it work, ForgeAus. [20:31] Anything that requires me to throw out my entire setup is... extreme. [20:31] Kubuntu should run well on that, I have a netbook with 1.6 GHz and 1 MB RAM with Kubuntu... [20:32] I'm trying for incremental improvement. I have a font selection that's not too bad. 'Laptop', I like a lot; but how can I get the 'Menu' button to work in it? Or is there a similar Window Decorations? [20:33] I find it almost impossible to search for themes, or theme elements, or whatever you get. You see these tiny previews of entire desktops and, instead of informative descriptions, a lot of egotistical puffing and humble nodding. [20:33] 'This is my fourth version of this thing, with help from 1337 *******' [20:35] If you go to System Settings >> Application Appearance, you can try out a lot of stuff... [20:35] Nor is it easy to disentangle one sort of settings from another. Window Decorations only affect the *decorations* themselves, shape and to an extent, placement. But each tiny preview is in a different set of colors. [20:35] asfyxia: Yes. Same issues. [20:35] In any case, the current issue is Window Decorations. === Briamini_ is now known as briamini [20:36] Now when actually asked to choose Window Decorations, there is a straight-up preview, created locally, for each theme, yes? Can this be found externally, so I can search what's available without actually installing every theme? [20:37] I refer to this setting: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vbXu3-Qy7GE/Ts56pOrN5bI/AAAAAAAAG3o/IYFQWlKuHo4/s1600/kde-appmenu_5.png [20:38]