[11:40] <lilstevie> ogra_: you said the other day that gles unity should be available in precise yes? is there something special you need to do?
[11:41] <ogra_> install compiz from -proposed (if it didnt move to -updates yet)
[11:41] <ogra_> (dont leave proposed enabled after that, it might see broken packages at times)
[11:42] <marvin24> ogra_: did you heard that (pre-alpha) hf drivers were released?
[11:43] <ogra_> oh, no, i didnt
[11:43] <lilstevie> ok cool
[11:43] <ogra_> if they work, that might qualify for an SRU
[11:43] <lilstevie> yeah thats what I am running now
[11:43] <lilstevie> they work ogra_
[11:43] <ogra_> awesome
[11:43] <marvin24> well, I only got unity 2d running but opengles works
[11:43] <marvin24> maybe need some more testers ...
[11:44] <marvin24> lilstevie: unity-3d?
[11:44] <lilstevie> I installed the nvidia-tegra package then pushed the hf drivers from the hf package over the top
[11:44] <lilstevie> this is on tegra3
[11:44] <marvin24> oh
[11:44] <lilstevie> marvin24: no, that part is what I was just asking about
[11:44] <ogra_> marvin24, 3d only works with the compiz in -proposed/-updates
[11:44] <marvin24> ah, so it is not a driver problem
[11:44] <ogra_> (not sure where it currently is)
[11:44] <ogra_> shouldnt
[11:44] <ogra_> i know 3d works on the snowball as well as on the panda
[11:44] <lilstevie> but it at least works for gles
[11:45] <marvin24> will test the new compiz later on
[11:45] <ogra_> so it should be driver independent
[11:45] <marvin24> btw, got kms and unity graphics running on 3.4-rc5
[11:45] <marvin24> using the kms driver
[11:45] <ogra_> nice !
[11:46] <lilstevie> I really need to migrate my install to eMMC my micro is not running very fast
[11:46] <ogra_> only 2d i assume ?
[11:46] <marvin24> sure
[11:46] <lilstevie> marvin24: nice, will have to wait for T3 support
[11:46] <marvin24> xf86-video-modeset driver
[11:46] <ogra_> does the kms driver have Xv support ?
[11:46] <marvin24> I think no, just basic init
[11:46] <ogra_> ah, k
[11:47] <marvin24> I hope some people from nv/nouveau will now jump upon this one
[11:47] <ogra_> yeah, that would be good
[11:47] <lilstevie> will be interesting to see where it goes
[11:47] <lilstevie> but should help cut the tether from nvidia
[11:47]  * marvin24 think it will go up to the sky
[11:48] <lilstevie> if it weren't for the fb drivers we could be running the prime on mainline
[11:52]  * ogra_ needs to commute from berlin back to kassel ... will be back in 2-4h (depending on traffic)
[13:44] <lilstevie> ogra_: I updated to compiz in -proposed and ubuntu-2d
[14:48] <lilstevie> actaully my problem is probably related to alternatives
[15:14] <lilstevie> alternatives are not playing nice
[15:14] <lilstevie> mesa keeps taking priority for some reason
[15:57] <prpplague> GrueMaster: ping
[16:01] <GrueMaster> prpplague: pong
[16:01] <prpplague> GrueMaster: looking for a recent kernel that supports v4l for omap44xx, any idea if the ubuntu kernels support it?
[16:02] <GrueMaster> I think we disabled the driver because most pandas don't have them. I'm not sure, but I was told the TI-ppa kernel does have it.
[16:03] <prpplague> got a like to the TI-ppa kernel?
[16:03] <GrueMaster> btw, I am no longer working on panda.  I'll share what knowledge I have for a while.
[16:04] <GrueMaster> I'll have to look for the link.  It was where the video drivers were.
[16:05] <prpplague> GrueMaster: ahh right sorry i forgot
[16:09] <GrueMaster> Heh, I don't appear to have the back door link anymore.
[16:09] <GrueMaster> ogra_:  ^^^
[16:12] <ogra_> prpplague, https://launchpad.net/~tiomap-dev/+archive/omap-trunk or https://launchpad.net/~tiomap-dev/+archive/release ...
[16:12] <ogra_> not sure which one
[16:12] <ogra_> and no idea if there is a v4l kernel ...
[16:13] <prpplague> ok thanks
[16:13]  * prpplague is really surprised at the lack of support
[16:13] <ogra_> (thats all in TIs hand)
[16:14] <ogra_> we dont maintain the PPA contents
[16:16] <prpplague> yea, just figured it would have been one of those items that was of value
[22:04] <prpplague> ogra_: can the current 12.04 release for panda play a mpeg2 video without any additional packages installed?
[22:31] <ndec> prpplague: i don't think so. mpeg2 decoder are provided by ffmpeg or libmpeg2 which aren't in the default 'free' image
[22:32] <prpplague> ndec: so you need to do an apt-get for those?
[22:32] <ndec> yep
[22:33] <ndec> i think you should install ubuntu-restricted-addons
[22:34] <ndec> that should bring ffpmeg codecs, gst-ffmpeg , -bad and -ugly
[22:38] <prpplague> ndec: ok thanks
[22:38] <prpplague> ndec: i really didn't want to use the ubuntu builds but looks like i have no choice in the short term :(
[22:39] <ndec> what do you mean?
[22:40] <prpplague> ndec: was trying to setup some demo stuff to play back some videos without a gui, until i get all of that working, i'll have to use ubuntu
[22:40] <ndec> but 12.04 won't give you v4l2 display...
[22:41] <ndec> you will get s/w decoder, s/w color convert, s/w rendering...
[22:41] <prpplague> no, but it will play a mpeg video
[22:44] <ndec> prpplague: btw, did you try gst without X?
[22:44] <prpplague> ndec: not as of yet, to many different combos of hwcomp, drm and such going on
[22:45] <mythos> there is a framebuffersink for gstreamer
[22:47] <ndec> prpplague: indeed... i just checked in a fb console on my laptop (no panda with me).
[22:47] <ndec> you can do : gst-launch playbin2 uri=file:///home/<foo>/videofile, and it works...
[22:47] <ndec> you need to be root in order to open /dev/fb0 though
[22:48] <prpplague> ndec: i'll have to look to see how big it is, what the dependencies are, and see if it breaks any of the other items
[22:54] <ndec> prpplague: well... mplayer -vo fbdev <video file> is working too.
[22:56] <prpplague> hmm, i'll have to try a build of mplayer with oe to see what all it needs
[22:57] <XorA> mplayer is pretty self contained
[22:58] <XorA> and if you use the overlay fbdev it should be able to play video nicelay for you
[22:58] <prpplague> hmm i'll see if can test that
[22:59] <prpplague> all i need ot have available in the kernel is framebuffer support?
[22:59] <XorA> pretty much
[22:59] <XorA> well omap4 support and other drivers are useful as well
[23:00] <XorA> surprised if you cant just generate what you need from narcissus
[23:01] <prpplague> XorA: no combo really gives me what i need
[23:01] <prpplague> the whole thing has been completely frustrating
[23:01] <prpplague> its the only item i've every had a major issue with on panda
[23:02] <XorA> well if you will be picky :-D
[23:05] <prpplague> XorA: my need is very simple, minimal rootfs that can play a video without any acceleration and without a gui
[23:05] <XorA> so what about that can narcissus not produce?
[23:05] <XorA> you can have busybox + mplayer only if you want
[23:06] <XorA> but this is a bit bad manners to discuss here :-)
[23:06] <prpplague> XorA: oh? is there a checkbox i missed for more advanced options?
[23:06] <XorA> the simple/advanced one I guess :-D
[23:07] <XorA> Choose the complexity of the options below.
[23:08] <XorA> then you can bare bones
[23:08] <prpplague> yea once i choose the minimal, i don't get a choice on the video options any more
[23:08]  * prpplague checks again
[23:08] <XorA> than add mplayer as aditional console package
[23:09] <XorA> or ffmpeg
[23:09] <XorA> or gstreamer
[23:09] <XorA> or pr0n viewer of you choosing :-D
[23:10] <prpplague> XorA: like i said, it appears that it is removed when you choose console
[23:10] <XorA> get a new browser then, I have it here in front of me
[23:11] <prpplague> XorA: yea it showed up after i refreshed
[23:11] <XorA> chrome/chromium by any chance?
[23:11] <prpplague> XorA: isn't mplayer still dependent on v4l working?
[23:12] <XorA> prpplague: no? why should it be?
[23:12] <XorA> prpplague: I think you need more coffee dude
[23:12] <prpplague> XorA: hmm
[23:12] <prpplague> XorA: well this isn't my area of expertise
[23:12] <prpplague> XorA: i know very little about video
[23:13] <XorA> v4l is for capture
[23:13] <XorA> v4l2 has some crazy play stuff stuck in it as well, but only crazy people use it :-D
[23:13] <XorA> real men use mplayer -vo fbdev
[23:15] <XorA> if I remember the correct argument mplayer -vo fbdev:/dev/fb1 will even do the colour space conversion accellerated
[23:15] <prpplague> ahh, dandy i have been give totally useless information then
[23:15]  * prpplague curses 
[23:15] <XorA> its not the best way to do it in normal use case
[23:16] <XorA> but its how I used to do demos on zaurus
[23:16] <XorA> I thinks you need v4l2 if your using robclarks all sing dancing stuffs (or used to anyway)
[23:17]  * XorA has never actually connected a panda to any form of display device :-D
[23:17] <prpplague> XorA: testing now
[23:18] <XorA> in fact if OE still links mplayer with aalib you can even do -vo aa to get your video in ASCII :-D
[23:18] <prpplague> XorA: i have been asking people all day about this, and everyone has given me totally different answers, hehe
[23:19] <XorA> hopefully this answer works for you :-D
[23:20] <prpplague> XorA: worked first time
[23:20] <prpplague> entire day wasted
[23:21] <XorA> we all get days like that
[23:22] <XorA> and you can do pretty much the same thing with the ubuntu server image, just takes more disk space by default
[23:24]  * XorA awards prpplague permission to have a beer now its working
[23:24] <prpplague> :)
[23:27] <XorA> anyway as its 00:30 here, time to sleep
[23:30] <prpplague> XorA|gone: thanks!
[23:35] <ndec> prpplague: note that the entire day you've been asking how to get v4l2 to work to render videos ;-)
[23:36] <prpplague> ndec: because i was kept getting told that it was the only way to do it
[23:37] <prpplague> ndec: trust me i learned my lesson on it today
[23:37] <ndec> hehe...
[23:38] <ndec> then we will ask robclark to make a kms video output option in mplayer ;-)
[23:39] <robclark> ndec, I could update omapfbplay
[23:43]  * prpplague slaps robclark with a dead fish
[23:46]  * robclark slaps prpplague w/ a block of tofu