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tohuwWhat permissions are needed on a public samba share? I have nobody:nogroup 755. When I set it this way, I can create objects but not delete them (I receive permission denied errors). force user = nobody is set on the share. My smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/956471/ Permissions of directory and parents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/956505/01:27
flaccidthere is also #samba01:28
tohuwflaccid: I know. I've asked there as well.01:31
flaccidsamba gets annoying, so im kind of avoiding this one sorry01:35
* txomon|home is away: Estoy ocupado02:31
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railsraideri can;t get apache to install and work with the config a i copied from another server, says No apache MPM package installed07:51
flaccidrailsraider: install it :)08:11
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lynxman-morning o/08:17
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RoyKrailsraider: apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork08:21
railsraideri tired that it didn't work, complained about MPM is not installed08:21
RoyKjust use the default config and move the custom parts08:22
RoyKdid this config come from another os/distro?08:22
railsraideri am setting up 2 new servers based on running servers08:22
RoyKyeah but - same os/distro?08:23
railsraideri copied the config08:23
RoyKyeah but - same os/distro?08:23
railsraiderlet me double check08:23
railsraideri believe i did08:23
twbrailsraider: have you read the Ubuntu Server Guide?08:24
RoyK!docs08:24
ubottudocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com08:24
railsraiderits the same distro 10.0408:24
RoyKrailsraider: you're probably doing something funny, then08:24
RoyKhow is apache configured on the old machine?08:25
railsraiderwhat do you mean?08:25
railsraiderapache2-mpm-prefork is already the newest version.08:25
railsraidersudo service apache2 start08:25
railsraiderNo apache MPM package installed08:25
RoyKwell, what parts of apache is it you need? what modules? lots of vhosts?08:26
twbYou should also install etckeeper last week, so that you can see what difference have been introduced before it broke08:26
RoyKit's probably easier to reconfigure the default install than to just move an existing config08:26
RoyK*AND* you should configure it by hand so that you *understand* what happens08:26
railsraideri don't know the config - i mean i understand it  but afraid I might skip something08:27
railsraideri can pastie the config08:28
railsraiderbasically i have 3 MPM modules mpm_event_module mpm_worker_module mpm_prefork_module08:29
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railsraiderevery time i try to install one of those one of those that are already installed gets removed08:31
railsraiderwhy?08:31
twbrailsraider: because they're mutually exclusive08:31
twbYou should use worker unless you need PHP08:32
twbThis should be explained in the Ubuntu Server Guide -- have you read that yet?08:32
railsraiderno08:32
railsraideri'll read that08:32
railsraiderhere's my apache.conf http://pastebin.com/rge6UhZr08:35
twbLooks OK to me08:36
railsraiderfrom what i understand it needs all 3 modules of that MPM but I'm unable to install all 308:39
twbrailsraider: wrong08:45
RoyKrailsraider: those are enabled once mpm is installed08:51
railsraiderSetting up apache2-mpm-prefork (2.2.14-5ubuntu8.9) ...08:52
railsraiderNo apache MPM package installed08:52
railsraiderthat's after i did sudo apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork08:53
RoyKrailsraider: erm - you need to use the default config09:07
RoyKrailsraider: your current config is probably broken09:07
RoyKrailsraider: so fix it...09:07
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spurkishow do i only upgrade the security packages on my ubuntu 10.04 lts?09:53
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rbasakspurkis: the easy way is to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d and make sure that only security is listed. The advanced way is to use pinning. See https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/package-management.html for a general guide, and the apt_preferences manpage for details on pinning.09:57
spurkisim thinking of doing the following: sudo aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade09:58
rbasakspurkis: are you just trying to avoid upgrading to 12.04, or do you want to also avoid any stable release updates to 10.04?09:59
rbasakspurkis: if you're just trying to avoid upgrading to 12.04, you don't need to do anything different. It won't happen unless you edit your sources.list or run do-release-upgrade.09:59
RoyKI wouldn't upgrade to 12.04 yet10:00
RoyKiirc do-release-upgrade won't work on 10.04 LTS until 12.04.1 is released10:00
Myrttiindeed10:00
ogra_rbasak, hey, thanks for fixing the server install instructions (though its sad that you have to do michaels work)10:01
Myrttiand editing sources.list isn't recommended10:01
KM0201why will it not work until 12.04.1?10:01
rbasakYou can run "do-release-upgrade -d" if you wish10:01
rbasakogra_: no problem!10:02
rbasak(though I'm not sure when "-d" will start pointing to quantal as opposed to precise)10:03
jamespagerbasak, any thoughts on what we might do with openmpi this cycle?10:11
brainysmurfI need a directory on my machine to be a mount point to server via http, is there a command for that?11:02
rbasakjamespage: I think we should sync 1.5 from debian when they have it in sid. And keep syncing 1.4 from debian. Apart from that, I'm not sure that there's anything else we need to do.11:09
jamespagerbasak, do you know when 1.6 is planned for?11:10
rbasak"soon", IIRC, but I'm not sure if that'll be in time for Q11:10
* rbasak checks11:10
rbasakjamespage: I can't find anything on expected 1.6 upstream release date. But I don't think we can really do anything further without input from stakeholders. I'll get ARM and some of the hardware vendors we're speaking to when we next speak to them.11:13
jamespagelol - sounds like a plan rbasak11:14
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koolhead17hi all11:43
koolhead17zul, around?11:43
koolhead17https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/19507311:44
koolhead17how can i report a bug keeping/mentioning  only ubuntu-package?11:44
koolhead17this seems to be issue with ubuntu packaging11:45
lynxmankoolhead17: too early for zul to be around ;)11:46
koolhead17lynxman, i 4got11:46
koolhead17gosh11:46
Gallomimiaso the weekend has gone by. any huge issues with the new release? all going fine?11:47
koolhead17lynxman, i need help in filing bug, how can i explicitly mention that bug is with ubuntu-packaging not upstream11:47
lynxmankoolhead17: fill it in the ubuntu package11:47
Gallomimiahey why is update-apt-xapi running at 78% cpu suddenly?11:47
Gallomimiai didn't say it should run11:47
lynxmankoolhead17: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova11:47
koolhead17lynxman, you rock. thanks a lot :)11:48
lynxmankoolhead17: np11:48
stgraberhallyn: I'm currently working on the LXC plenary for UDS, I'll ping you later when most of the slides are ready so you can have a look and catch what I forgot to mention :)12:12
Gallomimiahttps://launchpad.net/bugs/79846212:25
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 798462 in update-manager "update-manager's free space calculator for /boot seems insufficient" [Medium,Fix released]12:25
Gallomimiasad panda :(12:25
strtotimeI installed a fresh copy of precise and copied my (lucid) .ssh to my home directory but I can't login using keys. I found out (with -vvv) that it expects the key now to be a DSA key so i changed the ssh_config to read id_rsa and the key gets sent but the server is not accepting it (And I can't get a password now to check what's wrong on the server) .. Any ideas?12:31
strtotimeOpenSSH version on Lucid is 5.3p1 while on Precise it's 5.9p112:32
zulgood morning12:35
strtotimeNever mind. I was using the wrong user! Cheers~12:37
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hallynstgraber: sounds good13:47
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rbasakm_3: good morning! Do you have a blueprint for charm testing? I thought charm testing on ARM using MAAS might be a work item for you. What do you think, and do you have a blueprint it could go into? There's servercloud-q-arm-deployment to cover juju on ARM and MAAS at the moment.13:57
m_3rbasak: hey man13:58
m_3rbasak: I suggested a bunch to the list last week... following up with the actual blueprints later this morning.  I'll ping you when I find or submit the charmtesting one14:00
rbasakm_3: OK, thanks. Would you be willing to take a charm testing on ARM work item, and if so, do you think it should go into the charm testing blueprint or into the arm deployment blueprint?14:02
m_3rbasak: yeah, I'm happy to help with it... probablyl won't have the bandwidth to own the whole thing14:03
rbasakm_3: great, thanks!14:05
m_3rbasak: please make a note that we should get together over uds and talk about the hw available for charm testing14:08
m_3rbasak: that's the biggest unknown for me14:08
rbasakm_3: sure14:08
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stgraberhallyn: just saw your e-mail about mounting something into a running container (and matching blog post). Do you think we can/should implement something similar to OpenVZ's way of dealing with that?14:45
stgraberhallyn: they basically have the equivalent of /var/lib/lxc/<container>/rootfs and /var/lib/lxc/<container>/mount14:46
stgraberhallyn: where /mount is only populated while the container is running and shows the actual running rootfs (with all the mounts that happened there)14:46
stgraberhallyn: mounting anything in /var/lib/lxc/<container>/mount would make it appear in the container14:47
Ztaneso happy, neither euca-bundle-vol nor ec2-bundle-vol seem to work now14:48
grendal-primehey guys im using ntop for monitoring a single box.  It works really nice...and its easy to setup.  I have a question though about a few different protocols it monitors14:49
grendal-primeis anyone familiar with Ntop?14:49
hallynstgraber: yeah, that sounds good.  we can discuss that vs the /shared option at uds.14:50
stgraberhallyn: yep14:51
grendal-primesome time back i changed the way some of my scripts work. (im doing alot of heavy moving of files)  after this the over all ip decreased.  However the Bytes sent stayed the same14:51
stgraberhallyn: will add a note to the spec so I don't forget about it ;)14:51
hallynstgraber: we'd also be getting rid of the hack where we currently build mounts unde r/var/lib/lxc14:51
hallynmake tha t/usr/lib/lxc14:51
hallynso i like it14:52
stgraberhallyn: yeah, that'd be a lot less confusing ;) I'm sure some people must have been wondering wth was happening when apparmor would block the mount and the path would show /usr/lib/lxc/... :)14:52
stgraberhallyn: done. I also moved all the topics into the whiteboard, some were still in the blueprint description. Looks like that'll be a busy session (and I'm sure the list will get bigger)14:55
hallynstgraber: I wonder if we can pick an evening for a lxc hackfest, so that during the blueprint session we can just discuss what we want to do, and defer implementation discussions (and bikeshedding) to the hackfest/deepdive14:58
hallynGAH!  I just found out dlezcano won't be at uds14:59
stgraberhallyn: sounds good. Who else do we have at UDS who usually hacks on LXC?14:59
stgraberyeah, I figured as much when I saw it wasn't a shared Linaro event this time around...15:00
stgraberI see we have a lot less activities planned in the evenings this time around too, we basically seem to be free Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday evening (though I guess we'll have a team dinner one of these)15:01
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hallynstgraber: I'm not sure there'll be anyone else, in that case.  Unless we can entice zul :)15:12
zulhallyn: is there going to be alcohol involved?15:13
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hallynzul: evening hackfest?  yes.15:17
zulhallyn: i could be presuaded yes..15:17
hallynunfortunately i'm not international so i can't pick up a bottle fo scotch duty-free15:17
grendal-primedont they make duty filters?15:18
grendal-primei would hope so15:18
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mand0i updated my ubuntu server from 11.10 to 12.04 and now I get emails from apticron showing 144 updates are available but they have already been installed. Any suggestions?15:20
JonEdneyHey, does anyone know of a "VirtualBox" type program (or a way for VirtualBox) to be set up to work for dual boot and be accessed by both?16:02
patdk-wkvirtualbox or vmware workstations should both do that fine16:03
JonEdneyI installed 12.04 server on a virtual box to mess around with, but for work (I work from home) I have to run Windows, I'll have to take a look.16:05
JonEdneyDidn't have time to go through settings or anything, so I figured I'd ask in here, everyone seems pretty knwoladgeable (except me :P)16:06
wiherekHi16:14
wihereki need a short consultation :) basically, I am setting up hosting for a webshop. I have nginx set up with varnish, mysql and all that. Now I need a mail server. So went with this tutorial: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ which basically makes me install postfix, courier and a lot of AV / spamfilters etc16:16
wiherekhowever, I came across this section16:16
wiherekwhere I need to provide my smtp server details. and now I wonder whether I should make my own smtp server16:17
ahxcjbif you're having to ask whether you should create your SMTP server, you're probably not in a position to run an smtp server16:19
wiherekthanks for the advice man16:22
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tarvidafter upgrading to 12.04 vsftpd stops - respawning too fast16:54
tarvidI kept my old configuration file16:54
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tarvidok17:06
tarvidany idea where to start on this mess - http://pastebin.com/M0Ddxydd17:10
zultarvid: check your config file against the packaged version perhaps?17:25
tarvidI have zillions of errors in configuration17:27
drPoOis it possible to upgrade to 12.04 LTS from a 10.04 LTS without having to go through the intermediate upgrades?17:28
med_yes. LTS TO LTS is supported.17:29
drPoOmed_ I tried a do-release-upgrade and "No new release was found"17:29
med_drPoO, did you apt-get update first?17:30
drPoOMy  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades has as Propmt=lts17:30
drPoOyup17:30
drPoOill try again17:30
med_I did a direct upgrade just prior to release. I'll see if I can still do that.17:30
rbasakI think do-release-upgrade isn't intended to work by default until 12.04.1 is released17:30
med_(prior to release I had to add the -d flag, shouldn't be necessary now.)17:30
rbasakI'm not sure how to force it. Will "do-release-upgrade -d" still work, or would that upgrade to Q?17:31
med_rbasak, really? I was not aware of that.17:31
* med_ tests on a vm.17:31
* rbasak could be wrong17:31
drPoOso should I wait for 12.04.1?17:32
rbasakdrPoO: that's entirely up to you. You should be able to upgrade now though, and the only changes to the system will be security updates and only bugfixes for bugs deemed severe enough.17:33
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med_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuServer#From_10.04_to_12.0417:35
med_does recommend the first point release.17:35
med_and it requires the -d flag.17:35
drPoOrbasak, so I would have to run do-release-upgrade -d?17:37
rbasakdrPoO: yes. see med_'s link for instructions17:40
drPoOthank you17:40
arosalesutlemming: do you have the bug number handy for http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20357/servercloud-q-cloud-imgages/ not getting scheduled correctly?17:52
arosalesjcastro:  was going to take a look and see if that can be moved to Mon/tuesday per attendees availability17:53
arosalesutlemming: does tuesday, 16:15 work for servercloud-q-cloud-imgages/17:57
utlemmingarosales: no, it needs to be earlier...I think their plane leaves at 5:00pm17:58
RoyKdrPoO: if it's a production machine and there's nothing you really need in 12.04, just wait17:59
arosalesjcastro: looks like it may need to be earlier17:59
arosalesutlemming: what date/time would be optimal?17:59
RoyKthat is, if there's nothing you really need in 12.04, never mind upgrading at all :P17:59
utlemmingarosales: 10 or so?18:00
jcastroutlemming: ok on it18:02
arosalesjcastro: thanks18:02
jcastroutlemming: tuesday 0900?18:03
utlemmingjcastro: that works18:03
jcastrosound good? that'll give people plenty of slack18:03
ChmEarlwant to upgrade oneiric to precise. Can I change the suite name in sources.list, then apt-gte distro-upgrade?18:10
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three18tiok, here's one...  I have an 11.10 x86_64 guest running on a Windows 08 R2 Hyper-V host, everything works OK except I have duplicate drive /dev/sda and /dev/hda with identical uuids.  how do I get ubuntu to stop recognizing one of the drives?18:13
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three18tihere's the disk info http://paste.scsys.co.uk/19544018:15
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andy2012_80hello18:28
three18tihello.18:28
three18tio/18:28
andy2012_80anyone using postfix on centos????18:28
three18tiwrong channel.  but yes.18:28
andy2012_80thanx, have a lot of questions, administering postfix but have a mailq defunct issue and I always solve that by doing a shutdown18:29
andy2012_80what channel must  I join to get knowledge in how to administer the right way my server?18:30
RoyK#centos?18:30
RoyKor #postfix18:30
RoyKor something18:30
three18tiI would look for a #centos18:30
three18tichannel18:30
andy2012_80ok, got it18:32
andy2012_80thank you so much,..18:32
RoyK   18:34
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smoserhallyn, is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-dnsmasq-lxc-libvirt really worth a session?18:44
smoserit seems fairly clear to me that dnsmasq should bind to localhost only.18:44
hallynsmoser: clear to you, and if stgraber agrees with you then we don't need a session18:45
hallynbut there did seem to be some people disagreeing18:45
smoserclear to me, clear to you, clear to upstream libvirt ..18:45
smoseri did not see disagreemtn.18:45
hallynlibvirt != dnsmasq packagers18:45
hallynsomeone, i don't remember where, said it was not the right answer18:46
smoserwell, knowing who and what the complaint was would be useful18:46
smoser:)18:46
hallynit's in one of the relevant bugs18:46
hallynsmoser: the libvirt ppl aren't just saying bind dnsmasq to localhost only.  they're also saying to not run a separate dnsmasq for libvirt (and lxc)18:48
smoserah. i see.18:49
smoserthat would seem more entailed to me.18:49
smoserbut that does seem pretty smooth in dnsmasq.18:49
hallynsmoser: I still don't mind skipping a whole session if I can get yourself and stgraber to meet with me for 10 mins to chat about it :)18:57
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stgraberhallyn: so what's the current state of the discussion? if it's still to ship a dnsmasq.d config for lxc and depend on dnsmasq instead of dnsmasq-base, I'm still against it but cyphermox and I have been discussing some other ways of working around the current conflicts with multiple resolvers installed on the same machine19:05
stgraberhallyn: the easiest being to bind 127.0.1.1 or 127.0.2.1 instead of 127.0.0.119:05
hallynstgraber: doing that in main dnsmasq package you mean?19:07
stgraberhallyn: still catching up on the bugs, I've heard so many ways around it that I'm not sure what's currently proposed as a fix :)19:08
stgraberhallyn: is the current proposed fix to restrict dnsmasq spawned by /etc/init.d/dnsmasq to only listen on 127.0.0.1? if so, I'm not against it as I don't really care about that package but dealing with upgrades will be fun (if anyone actually uses dnsmasq for external queries)19:09
hallynstgraber: exactly (so many ways around it) that's why I wanted input in a session :)19:15
hallyn127.0.0.1 is smoser's proposed fix, yes.  i'm happy with it, but that means little19:16
stgraberhallyn: I'd suggest dropping that blueprint and I'll add a generic dnsmasq entry to the networking blueprint I'll register later today/tomorrow19:16
hallynsounds good.  i wonder how i drop a blueprint :)19:16
stgraberbecause that problem affects LXC/libvirt but also other things like LTSP users using dnsmasq for dns/dhcp/tftp and desktop users who since 12.04 have dnsmasq for their local resolver19:17
hallynso, i do use dnsmasq for remote queries (when my laptop is a bridge for a wired-only server laptop), but not sure it would affect me as i'm pretty sure i specify the nic by hand19:17
stgraberwe need to either find a way to have all of these to play nicely or find a way to get a single dnsmasq covering all our use cases and controlled by the various daemons (not very likely)19:17
hallynstgraber: can you subscribe me to the blueprint you're adding it to?19:18
stgrabersure19:18
hallyni don't have much to say, just don't want to be surprised if/when there are changes to lxc/libvirt needed19:18
hallynthanks19:18
hallynDaviey: are you around?19:18
Psi-JackBah, now I'm pissed! What's WRONG with Oracle to stop permitting OS distribution? Are they just trying to kill Java?19:32
FunnyLookinHatAnyone here used apache2-mpm-worker ?  I'm getting hit really hard on a box and realized it's running prefork - which, to my understanding, is slower than worker.  Right?19:32
Psi-JackCorrect19:32
Psi-JackFunnyLookinHat: Is Baidu spider hitting you?19:34
FunnyLookinHatPsi-Jack, yeah19:35
FunnyLookinHatyou too?19:35
FunnyLookinHatI can't nail it down...19:35
Psi-Jackhttp://www.netnuisance.net/ip/se.php19:36
FunnyLookinHatAlso - I've heard worker can screw up mod_php - is that true?19:36
Psi-JackFirewall out each of those, and you're golden.19:36
Psi-JackFunnyLookinHat: It doesn't work with mod_php, at all.19:36
Psi-JackYOu have to run PHP with worker through fcgid.19:36
FunnyLookinHatah19:37
FunnyLookinHatOk - soon as I get into my server I'm going to just iptables them out19:37
FunnyLookinHatlol19:37
FunnyLookinHatToo bad I can't login right now... :-/19:37
Psi-JackYep.19:37
FunnyLookinHatThanks a bunch Psi-Jack  :D19:38
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FunnyLookinHatPsi-Jack, just to check... I should be doing this for the IP ranges provided:    iptables -A INPUT -s 61.135.192.0/18 -j DROP19:47
FunnyLookinHatbeen a while since I did iptables  :-/19:47
FunnyLookinHatAnd will those persist through reboot if I add them that way ?19:47
stgraberhallyn: I marked your blueprint as superseded by the foundations one. That way we also get a link to the new one for free :)19:47
Psi-Jackyea19:48
FunnyLookinHaterr -    -I19:50
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hallynstgraber: cool, thanks20:15
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RamJettIs there any major benefit running MAAS if only about 20% of system are going to be Ubuntu. The rest are Genoo21:04
lifelessdepends21:05
lifelessif you have 5 machines, no :)21:05
lifelessif you have 5000, definitely.21:05
lifelessthe more the merrier21:05
RamJettyeah. It will probably only be 5 Ubuntu boxes running OpenStack. The rest will be pre-existing Gentoo boxes and new virtual boxes in OpeStack21:08
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rbasakRamJett: AIUI, MAAS+juju is the easiest way of deploying OpenStack. It'd probably be worth it just for that.21:28
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RamJettrbasak: Yeah I took a look at that, but it want you to install 11 nodes. I only really need 3 Ubuntu boxes.21:32
three18tiI second rbasak, however, it requires some patience.21:32
three18tiRamJett, minimum OpenStack install is 6 servers.21:32
FunnyLookinHatAnyone here have a sec to check my saved iptables?  I'm restoring this on reboot, but wanted to make sure these drops will actually get hit and not be redirected prematurely21:32
FunnyLookinHathttp://pastebin.com/BrUgPm3h21:33
RamJettI have it running on 1 but plan on 3. I have manually set it up. The boxes have plenty of horse power to run well over 100 KVM instances21:34
virusuygents!21:49
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three18tiI really hate IIS...21:53
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nibalizerarst22:44
AisonI tried to upgrade to precise and now I get this error during upgrade :(22:57
Aisonslapd (2.4.28-1.1ubuntu4) wird eingerichtet ...22:57
Aison  Backing up /etc/ldap/slapd.d in /var/backups/slapd-2.4.25-1.1ubuntu4.1... done.22:57
Aison  Moving old database directories to /var/backups:22:57
Aison  Loading from /var/backups/slapd-2.4.25-1.1ubuntu4.1:22:57
Aison  - directory dc=radsport-thalmann,dc=ch... failed.22:57
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Aisondamn it, ubuntu update crashed my ldap database23:32
Aisonholy crap23:35
=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away
_KaszpiR_welcome to backps.23:45
=== dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk
Aison_KaszpiR_, i've got backups, but it's a crap if the server is fucked up and not local23:54
_KaszpiR_cough * production server * cough23:54
_KaszpiR_;)23:54

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