[00:01] <justin88> does anyone know how to make the wallpaper in 12.04 not switch in the login screen ?
[00:01] <acmeinc1> is there anyway to disable the double logging that anyone knows of?
[00:02] <jagginess> acmeinc1, you mean auto-login?
[00:02] <peter12355> hi i get #failed (VM used: java-6-openjdk).# when installing something and i cant uninstall openjdk
[00:02] <Dade> I have a few SSL Virtualhosts and they work fine until I restart the box. Then all of the SSL virtualhosts point to the directory listed in default-ssl. If I restart Apache2 service manually everything works as intended. any ideas?
[00:02] <jagginess> (ya there's a way to disable autologin)
[00:03] <acmeinc1> jaggi: no, i guess you missed my original message.
[00:04] <scar3crow> I am having serious problems with syncing my ubuntu one cloud folder....
[00:05] <peter12355> hi i get #failed (VM used: java-6-openjdk).# when installing something and i cant uninstall openjdk
[00:05] <vitor-br> someone is having problems that unity does not load at login?
[00:06] <YBinnenweg_> Hello
[00:06] <justin88> my ubuntu one is syncing really slow too scar3crow
[00:06] <scar3crow> peter12355: sudo apt-get purge openjdk*
[00:07] <darren> Hello
[00:07] <darren> Anyone having unity3d lagging problems :D?
[00:07] <YBinnenweg_> Guys I am having problems with wifi on Ubuntu 12.04 & 11.10. When I connect to my own router I can't access the internet, not even ping to facebook or google. When I connect to the wireless internet connection of my neighbours(shhh) it works just fine. Can anyone help me? I am currently running ubuntu 12.04
[00:08] <YBinnenweg_> 12.04 LTS *
[00:09] <xzhe> hey, can someone tell me if its possible to use unity and smth other? or unity allow to have 2nd bar (bottom gnome like) and i'd like it to work like this: i have few apps that are usially a single instance or not more than 3 - these could be started and be visible on unity bar (by default all) - but i'd like to have few apps that should be visible on that gnome-like panel (i coulkd specify
[00:09] <xzhe> which ones) - these should be visible only on that gnome panel - not unity - why? i have alot instances running of these tools
[00:09] <YBinnenweg_> Also my wireless connection works just fine in 2 different windows installations, and on my android smartphone.
[00:09] <ClintSp> Hey guys.  Did an upgrade to precise from lucid.  After the upgrade my GDM login manager was replace with unity-greeter.  Unity-greeter does not list the user I commonly use.  It lists "Guest" and "Samba User", but not my user "clint".  Ideas?
[00:09] <Vonhinten> hmm, grabbed a brand new iso, still getting initramfs unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[00:09] <Vonhinten> not using USB 3.0
[00:10] <Jordan_U> YBinnenweg_: Can you ping 8.8.8.8 from your own Wireless network?
[00:10] <YBinnenweg_> Jordan_U: let me check, brb
[00:11] <ApocGoD> Ubuntu 12.04 clean install. Boot was hanging with a grub rescue error so I just installed 12.04 now it is  hanging at Verifying DMI pool
[00:11] <YBinnenweg> Jordan_u nope I can't ping to 8.8.8.8
[00:12] <kel_> YBinnenweg_ does it work for any other system in your house?
[00:12] <kel_> like windows?
[00:12] <YBinnenweg> Yep
[00:13] <YBinnenweg> Every windows computer here, and all android devices
[00:13] <kel_> ip addressing problem...
[00:13] <kel_> disconnect the router and reset it....
[00:13] <kel_> ?
[00:13] <Jordan_U> YBinnenweg: What is the output of "ifconfig" and "route -n"?
[00:13] <kel_> know that basic but still
[00:14] <darren> Can you ping 127.0.0.1 :o?
[00:15] <qwd> Can someone confirm that the encrypt option doesn't appear in the menu when right clicking a file in 12.04? Seems like an obvious bug.
[00:15] <YBinnenweg> Jordan_U pastebin.com/paE5GtKc
[00:15] <ztag100> what is the channel for polling?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> !poll | ztag100
[00:16] <YBinnenweg> Darren, yes I can
[00:16] <nmittal_> in 12.04 how do i make sure that "compiz --replace ccp" is run every time i login
[00:16] <Iron> I have done the following: installed ubuntu 12.04b on a usb flash drive trough VirtualBox and then booted on a notebook with a faulty HD, the problem is that it does not seem to properly recognize the drivers, how could I rescan the hardware in order to readapt the system to the new hardware?
[00:17] <MadRabbit320> hi all, d/l'ed, burned 12.04; it loads on my desktop, but I can't get it online (hardwired). I put in my network name & pw for my network, but it won't go.  Is there a certain tab or something I need to use? thnx.
[00:17] <Fyodorovna> nmittal_, out of curiosity why?
[00:18] <ApocGoD> Can anyone help me?
[00:18] <nmittal_> Fyodorovna, i need compiz running :)
[00:19] <daftykins> !ask | ApocGoD
[00:19] <ApocGoD> Ubuntu 12.04 clean install. Boot was hanging with a grub rescue error so I just installed 12.04 now it is  hanging at Verifying DMI pool
[00:19] <gaelfx> MadRabbit320: what type of password does your network have?
[00:19] <nmittal_> Fyodorovna, do i get the effects like wobbly windows/desktop cube as soon as i login
[00:19] <ApocGoD> Sorry, did that earlier and got no response.
[00:19] <daftykins> ah yes
[00:19] <itaylor57>  just
[00:19] <Jordan_U> ApocGoD: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[00:20] <daftykins> ApocGoD: wow, not seen the "Verifying DMI pool data..." line in years. that would suggest GRUB has failed to install, is there something special about your hard disk setup / config?
[00:20] <MadRabbit320> wpa2 personal
[00:20] <YBinnenweg> Jordan_U did you receive my pastebin link?
[00:20] <nimbiotics> hello evry1. ON a fresh 12.04 install; I'm trying to install the brother mfc-490cw drivers. I'm following the steps given at brother.com and the first one is to issue the "sudo aa-complain cupsd" command, but when I do I get"sudo: aa-complain: command not found" What am I suposed to do? TIA!
[00:20] <ApocGoD> I had two hard drives, removed the secondary one which sent me on the grub recovery issue.
[00:21] <daftykins> ApocGoD: is it an old PATA system?
[00:21] <Fyodorovna> nmittal_, should run automatically but you could put that in startup applications as a command and name it what you want. The cube etc should run if setup in the auto start or you command generally run without the ccp
[00:21] <Jordan_U> YBinnenweg: Yes. Can you try "ping 192.168.178.1"?
[00:21] <Fyodorovna> s/you/tour
[00:21] <YBinnenweg> Nope
[00:21] <Fyodorovna> your
[00:21] <YBinnenweg> Doesn't work
[00:22] <ApocGoD_> I had a primary and secondary drive with Ubuntu installed on the primary.
[00:22] <nmittal_> Fyodorovna, thanks.. let me try that
[00:22] <daftykins> ApocGoD: but are they SATA or PATA?
[00:22] <ApocGoD_> Removed the secondary which caused the grub error, so I formatted and installed 12.04
[00:22] <ApocGoD_> SATA
[00:22] <daftykins> ok
[00:22] <ApocGoD_> Now im stuck at the pool screen
[00:22] <Jordan_U> ApocGoD: Do you currently have more than one hard drive?
[00:23] <chull2058> Greetings Channel, is there anyone who might be able to help me figure out why a certain theme will not work on my system?
[00:23] <daftykins> Jordan_U: look up
[00:23] <Fyodorovna> nmittal_, no problem.
[00:23] <ApocGoD_> There is only a single drive installed now.
[00:23] <Jordan_U> ApocGoD: If you look through your BIOS menus does the BIOS list this drive?
[00:23] <daftykins> ApocGoD: i can understand it going to rescue before, but after a reinstall with only the one in that's plain odd
[00:24] <ApocGoD_> It lists the single drive, a 440gb SATA
[00:24] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | ApocGoD
[00:24] <ApocGoD_> I reset all my BIOS options to default, no change.
[00:24] <Iron_> I got dc'ed: reanswering
[00:24] <Iron_> I have done the following: installed ubuntu 12.04b on a usb flash drive trough VirtualBox and then booted on a notebook with a faulty HD, the problem is that it does not seem to properly recognize the drivers, how could I rescan the hardware in order to readapt the system to the new hardware?
[00:24] <ApocGoD_> How am I supposed to run the script if I can't get the computer to turn on?
[00:25] <newbie_ubuntu> L3top:sorry, i get go now, see u in hours later
[00:25] <Jordan_U> Iron_: What are the actual symptoms you're seeing?
[00:25] <Fyodorovna> Iron_, a full install?
[00:25] <YBinnenweg> Jordan_U no I can't ping to 192.168.178.1
[00:26] <Iron_> Jordan_U: well, it does not detect the prop wlan drivers and as I plug in the ethernet cable, it gets the IP and all, but does not navigate to nor ping any host
[00:26] <darren> YBinnenweg: Can you ping 127.0.0.1?
[00:26] <Iron_> Fyodorovna: yes
[00:26] <YBinnenweg> Darren, yes I can
[00:26] <Jordan_U> Iron_: Have you tried the Additional Drivers utility?
[00:26] <ApocGoD_> How am I supposed to run the script if I can't get the computer to turn on?
[00:27] <Jordan_U> darren: YBinnenweg: That's bizarre, given that according to the ifconfig output that's on a different network.
[00:27] <Iron_> Well, I tryied to install on the notebook itself, but the installer cracks when reading the partitions
[00:27] <celthunder> ApocGoD_: whats the issue with your system turning on? sorry just got here
[00:28] <MadRabbit320> gaelfx== WPA2 personal is the answer I hope you want...
[00:28] <Fyodorovna> ApocGoD_, on a live cd
[00:28] <Demnogonis> good evening
[00:28] <darren> 127.0.0.1 is a loopback address.
[00:28] <Iron_> I don't have the tools to get the HD off it and besides, it still can read a data partition it has
[00:28] <Demnogonis> does anyone know a good channel for java developers?
[00:28] <ApocGoD_> celthunder: I'm having an issue getting past the Verifying DMI pool screen after installing 12.04
[00:28] <Jordan_U> darren: D'OH, of course.
[00:28] <darren> :(
[00:29] <ApocGoD_> One moment, starting via USB drive.
[00:29] <MonkeyDust> Demnogonis  #java
[00:29] <YBinnenweg> Under networksettings it gets an ip adres and DNS server though =/
[00:30] <Fyodorovna> ApocGoD_, the script name has changed so the links here a good but the command is incorrect. download the script extract it to your desktop and run this command and pastebin the results text http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/     sudo bash ~/Desktop/bootinfoscript
[00:30] <Demnogonis> invitation required :(
[00:30] <MonkeyDust> Demnogonis  i just entered without invitation
[00:30] <ApocGoD_> Ok, thankis
[00:30] <Demnogonis> hm...
[00:30] <Iron_> Jordan_U: yes, it does not recognize any additional drivers
[00:30] <cyphase> ooh, UDS is in oakland
[00:30] <cyphase> i might go just for fun
[00:31] <Iron_> Jordan_U: it's tricky
[00:31] <Jordan_U> For some readon my $PATH doesn't contain /sbin/, /usr/sbin/, /usr/local/sbin/ etc. I know I can add them back in .profile, but why are they not there to begin with?
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Iron_: That has nothing to do with your having initially installed Ubuntu in a VM. That just means that the drivers aren't available :(
[00:31] <celthunder> ApocGoD_: change your kernel?
[00:32] <Iron_> Jordan_U: it works flawlessly on the livecd
[00:32] <ApocGoD_> celthunder: I have no idea how to do that.
[00:32] <Iron_> !sad
[00:32] <celthunder> Jordan_U: how did you add the user?
[00:32] <celthunder> Jordan_U: what shell are you using?
[00:33] <Jordan_U> celthunder: It's the user which was created during install, many releases ago. bash.
[00:33] <xzhe> hey, can someone tell me if its possible to use unity and smth other? or unity allow to have 2nd bar (bottom gnome like) and i'd like it to work like this: i have few apps that are usially a single instance or not more than 3 - these could be started and be visible on unity bar (by default all) - but i'd like to have few apps that should be visible on that gnome-like panel (i coulkd specify
[00:33] <xzhe> which ones) - these should be visible only on that gnome panel - not unity - why? i have alot instances running of these tools
[00:33] <celthunder> Jordan_U: no idea then...bash and useradd usually makes a reasonable path...i use zsh so could be wrong though
[00:33] <gaelfx> !notunity | xzhe
[00:33] <cyphase> anyone know if it would be appropriate to attend UDS as someone who isn't involved in developing ubuntu? e.g. just a user :P
[00:34] <varactor> Y'alls
[00:34] <xzhe> im asking about ubuntu 12.04
[00:34] <jk4287> Hi, I am sick of the Nvidia 295.xx drivers with Ubuntu 12.04, as it keeps logging me out to login screen (getting segfault and xorg crash) . I would like to downgrade the nvidia driver to 290.xx . any idea how I can do that?
[00:34] <MonkeyDust> xzhe  try gnome-panel
[00:34] <darren> Argh, I have a problem with unity performance, If I don't change workspaces for a few seconds, the unity launcher lags, and so does other window animation. Using the 295.40 nVidia driver.
[00:35] <varactor> Anyone run 12.04 on a laptop with dual batteries?
[00:35] <gaelfx> jk4287: deactivate the driver, then uninstall the package, then look for the 290 driver in the repos or from NVidia's website
[00:35] <gaelfx> xzhe: the same thing applies to 12.04
[00:35] <Fyodorovna> cyphase, here is a link that might help. http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[00:35] <celthunder> jk4287: uninstall the modules and go to nvidia.com?
[00:35] <cyphase> Fyodorovna, i know
[00:36] <Flannel> cyphase: Yeah, it would be.
[00:36] <Iron_> Guys, thank you for your time, I will get the tools to get rid of the faulty HDD and then I will install it on the notebook itself, cause all I do has no effect on the issue
[00:36] <jk4287> celthunder, yeah. i did try to download the driver from nvidia. but, i have problem to run the driver file. something to do with the dkms i think
[00:36] <gaelfx> xzhe: ubottu only still says 11.10 because 12.04 just came out
[00:36] <jk4287> celthunder, is the install straight forward?
[00:37] <aberon> why the hell does Java 7 not have OpenGL ?
[00:37] <xzhe> gaelfx: oke, just wonder if unity-people did what alot ppl wanted for so long - looks like not...
[00:37] <gaelfx> aberon: because Oracle hates anything with the word open in it
[00:37] <MonkeyDust> aberon  maybe the people in #java can tell
[00:37] <Fyodorovna> cyphase, you hit the registration button and get to the actual doc needed in launchpad?
[00:37] <ApocGoD> @celthunder Can you tell me how
[00:37] <nimbiotics> hello evry1. ON a fresh 12.04 install; I'm trying to install the brother mfc-490cw drivers following the steps given at brother.com and the first one is to issue the "sudo aa-complain cupsd" command, but when I do I get"sudo: aa-complain: command not found", same result with the aptitude command. How can I fix this?
[00:37] <gaelfx> xzhe: it's still a work in progress, but it's getting a lot better all the time
[00:38] <Weaponized> gaelfx: openoffice is made by oracle now, right?
[00:38] <aberon> gaelfx, lmao
[00:38] <gaelfx> Weaponized: no, they gave it to Apache foundation
[00:38] <Daekdroom> Weaponized, I believe it was sold to Apache.
[00:38] <thephantom> My Ubuntu 12.04 live USB is asking me for a username and password to login
[00:38] <MonkeyDust> thephantom  try ubuntu and no password
[00:39] <Weaponized> or admin for username and password as password. Usually works on all computers
[00:39] <varactor> Anyone go between winders and ubuntu a lot?
[00:40] <xzhe> gaelfx: yeah maybe in progress work - but how long to wait... im still on 10.10 - i want to upgrade - but how? - i have 18 gnome terminals right now - each have 10~ tabs (sshs) - i need to see things - in unity im dead
[00:40] <dustinspringman> varactor: I have a win7 vm that I RARELY login to.. found that windows is just not necessary..
[00:40] <aberon> wtf
[00:40] <aberon> #java is invite only
[00:40] <pTmail>  Vbasic Bilgisi
[00:40] <aberon> someone tell me why it is invite only
[00:40] <Random832> aberon: because it redirect to ##java?
[00:40] <varactor> dustinspringman, yeah, i use windows at work, and I've recently came over to ubuntu from opensuse
[00:41] <gaelfx> aberon: they should use that fact in trial as proof that it ain't open
[00:41] <Random832> an you have redirects disabled or are already in ##java
[00:41] <aberon> wut
[00:41] <ApocGoD> Can someone help me figure out how to get past the verifying DMI error after installing 12.04?
[00:41] <varactor> But even though ubuntu is at the same resolution as the windows install, it just seems like I have less space
[00:41] <Fyodorovna> aberon, you need to be registered with freenode
[00:41] <bugs_bugger> hi there. does anybody know how i can fix a broken ntfs from linux itself? i was changing the size of the partition when X-Server crashed. it was like 20 minutes before the process was finished :'(
[00:41] <mk> how do I increase the size of my current (mounted) partition?
[00:41] <aberon> Fyodorovna, ah.
[00:41] <gaelfx> xzhe: have you tried 12.04 yet?
[00:41] <aberon> Fyodorovna, why the hell why
[00:41] <gaelfx> xzhe: I thought you should be able to do that
[00:41] <MonkeyDust> mk  backup and use gparted
[00:42] <Weaponized> So many people. ._.
[00:42] <MonkeyDust> mk  you cannot or should not resize a mounted partition
[00:42] <Fyodorovna> aberon, the channel operators have that choice I guess.
[00:42] <pTmail>  testtesttest
[00:42] <MonkeyDust> !register| aberon
[00:42] <mk> MonkeyDust: gparted doesn't allow resizing mounted
[00:42] <xzhe> gaelfx: via fallback mode lol - looks like still no way to upgrade for me, anyway thanks for your time
[00:42] <enis>  testtesttest
[00:42] <walterwoj> how do I span an new process from the terminal so I can continue using that terminal?
[00:42] <darren> Is it me, or does ubuntu have problems with atheros cards
[00:42] <darren> :/
[00:42] <gaelfx> mk: is there anything that does allow resizing mounted drives?
[00:42] <MonkeyDust> mk  idd, i just corrected myself, guess it's not even possible
[00:43] <thephantom> Neither, ubuntu and no password, nor, admin and password, worked
[00:43] <aberon> never!!
[00:43] <bastidrazor> walterwoj: command & disown
[00:43] <mk> gaelfx: I wouldn't know
[00:43] <varactor> xzhe, youre updrading lts to lts?
[00:43] <walterwoj> bastidrazor: thanks
[00:43] <DasEi> gaelfx: no, can do it unmounted only
[00:43] <gaelfx> xzhe: I have tabs in my terminal
[00:43] <xzhe> gaelfx: i will think maybe about a tint2? smth like that - it is a pannel - but it wont work like ive wanted
[00:43] <gaelfx> DasEi: I know, I was trying to make a point indirectly, which was stupid I realize now
[00:43] <mk> I don't have enough space on my present partition, and need to increase it. Unfortunately, the only way to increase resides on my mounted partition
[00:44] <xzhe> gaelfx: i dont ask for tabs in terminal - i want to see 18 terminals - each gnome terminal as own icon not just one gnometerminal icon and after click a tree of 18 of em
[00:44] <varactor> use a livecd
[00:44] <MadRabbit320> Did I miss an answer to 12.04 not going online; PCLinuxOS just needed net name & net pw.  Any thoughts where I went wrong?
[00:44] <MonkeyDust> mk  why not boot from a live cd or usb an d use gparted from there?
[00:44] <Fyodorovna> mk, use a live cd and gparted.
[00:44] <DasEi> gaelfx: systempartis are usually done from a live (usb,disc)
[00:44] <gaelfx> mk: my point was that there is no tool to resize mounted partitions because that's really dangerous
[00:44] <xzhe> varactor: 10.10 is not an lts -- anyway im still thinking about upgrading or not
[00:44] <mk> varactor: is that the easiest way to do it? I was hoping for something simpler, like a tool that I'd have to use, and then reboot, and wait
[00:44] <gaelfx> xzhe: ah, gotcha, you want a separate icon for each instance
[00:45] <xzhe> yes, exactly
[00:45] <mk> gaelfx: right. I don't want to do that.
[00:45] <darren> Had to restart to make my wireless card work again.
[00:45] <darren> er, It was slow, now it isnt
[00:45] <varactor> mk, i'd be easiest and safest to just use a live cd
[00:45] <varactor> it'd
[00:46] <bugs_bugger> what are my hopes for fixing an interupted partition resize anyways?
[00:46] <xzhe> varactor: why you asked? are there some issues with upgrading not 1 by 1? but from like 10.10 to 12.04?
[00:46] <DasEi> bugs_bugger: some, testdisk might be of interest
[00:46] <gaelfx> bugs_bugger: depends where it got interrupted, but generally, not good
[00:46] <iceroot> bugs_bugger: your backup
[00:46] <DasEi> !testdisk | bugs_bugger
[00:46] <bugs_bugger> that was my backup....
[00:47] <mk> varactor: ok - so I take it there's no such tool. I take it that a 7.1 boot disk will work fine? Will it mess up my boot?
[00:47] <sfears> That depends on how much data you want to save from that partition bugs_bugger.
[00:47] <Gnea> bugs_bugger: oh...........
[00:47] <iceroot> bugs_bugger: then use your normal data and recreate a backup of it
[00:47] <DasEi> !info testdisk | bugs_bugger
[00:47] <varactor> i think lts to lts youd have to wait til 12.04.1
[00:47] <varactor> im new to ubuntu though im still reading up
[00:47] <bugs_bugger> gaelfx: stupid *swear* *swear* X-Server crashed on me and took gparted with it
[00:47] <gaelfx> varactor: no, that's correct
[00:48] <varactor> i caved in D:
[00:48] <Gnea> bugs_bugger: let me guess: you attempted to resize a partition that was mounted
[00:48] <gaelfx> man, seems like a lot of people are crashing xserver, I wonder why I haven't had a problem with that?
[00:48]  * gaelfx knocks on wood
[00:48] <enis>  testtesttest
[00:48] <DasEi> enis: pong
[00:48] <Gnea> enis: it works!
[00:48] <bugs_bugger> Gnea: with gparted allowing me to do so? i doubt that ;)
[00:48] <test> test
[00:49] <Gnea> bugs_bugger: well, good point... OTOH, I just can't see why X crashed
[00:49] <test> au
[00:49] <bugs_bugger> Gnea: might be cinnamon
[00:49] <gaelfx> Gnea: lotsa people have had trouble with x crashing
[00:49] <mk> enis/test: if you want to do testing, find a blank channel
[00:49] <jiohdi> xserver is ancient and there is a movement to replace it, but change takes time
[00:50] <xzhe> jiohdi: there is a movement to kick it out - google: wayland
[00:50] <kantlivelong> lol
[00:50] <jiohdi> xzhe, too much inertia to overcome for a quick replacement
[00:50] <Gnea> gaelfx: really? I typically don't have a problem as long as there isn't a lack of space left on the device
[00:50] <varactor> stallman would be pissed
[00:50] <enis>  testtesttest
[00:50] <ApocGoD> I can get Ubuntu 12.04 to start via live cd, but when installed it hangs at the Verifying DMI pool screen.
[00:51] <t0ntin> Hi, all. I installed 12.04, updated it, restarted, got to the part where I choose either windows or ubuntu, I chose Ubuntu and the computer reboots every time. Any ideas?
[00:51] <test> test
[00:51] <mk> enis: use a blank channel
[00:51] <test> test
[00:51] <bugs_bugger> what are all those test spammers about?
[00:51] <mk> it's the same guy, probably testing a bot or something
[00:51] <xzhe> jiohdi: it is possible, first it will be like xorg under wayland  but it is still nice...
[00:51] <gaelfx> ApocGoD: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000474.htm
[00:52] <xzhe> jiohdi: things takes time - good that someone started smth to chg it
[00:52] <jiohdi> xzhe, people have been saying its coming... and eventually it will
[00:52] <MadRabbit320> thnx for the help; enjoy.
[00:52] <bugs_bugger> jiohdi: like....GNOME 3
[00:52] <jiohdi> I use lxde :)
[00:52] <gaelfx> ApocGoD: you probably need to reinstall grub
[00:53]  * Gnea uses E17
[00:53] <xzhe> jiohdi: it didnt came to the 12.04 cuz its lts - lts need to be stable - wait until next or 2 ubuntu releases
[00:53] <vitor-br> my ubuntu fails to load unity after login... what can I do? I'm using 4.12...
[00:53] <bugs_bugger> jiohdi: thats for sure is faster ^^
[00:53] <Fyodorovna> bugs_bugger, for a challenge check out post 8 here  http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=14753
[00:53] <bugs_bugger> Fyodorovna: thanks
[00:53] <Gnea> vitor-br: that's a feature, not a bug... can you change sessions?
[00:53] <jiohdi> xzhe, yes
[00:53] <enis>  testtesttest
[00:54] <jiohdi> vitiho, fails to load unity... sounds like something to celebrate ;)
[00:54] <Fyodorovna> bugs_bugger, way beyond my means at least to try but interesting,
[00:54] <Gnea> !ops | enis spams us with "19:53 < enis>  testtesttest" continually.
[00:54] <vitor-br> Gnea I can...
[00:54] <bugs_bugger> Fyodorovna: well i'm afraid its for ext fs only
[00:54] <jiohdi> sorry vitor-br
[00:54] <gaelfx> jiohdi: no, something to celebrate would be if he logs in and the top-panel is gone but everything else works fine
[00:54] <jiohdi> gaelfx, thats called openbox :)
[00:54] <bugs_bugger> Fyodorovna: but ill look into it.
[00:54] <Gnea> vitor-br: okay, make sure that unity is selected... if not, try a different session.... does that load?
[00:55] <mk> can I resize my root ext3 and ntfs using gparted, via a 7.10 livecd, without messing up my boot?
[00:55] <IdleOne> enis: Please use #test for testing
[00:55] <Gnea> !ops | enis spams us with 19:53 < enis>  testtesttest
[00:55] <Gnea> geez
[00:55] <TheBuntu> on 12.04 livecd.. i don't see the usb creator.. whats the name of it? so i can install it
[00:55] <jiohdi> unetbootin
[00:55] <IdleOne> Gnea: Please stop using the !ops trigger. we saw it the first time
[00:55] <Gnea> IdleOne: chill, it's not like I abuse it.
[00:55] <Fyodorovna> bugs_bugger, good luck for sure. :)
[00:56] <gaelfx> jiohdi: he's talking about the on installed by default
[00:56] <vitor-br> Gnea still not loading, when I restart the computer, the same happens.
[00:56] <IdleOne> Gnea: you used it twice for what really isn't an emrgency
[00:56] <bugs_bugger> Fyodorovna: thanks
[00:56] <gaelfx> TheBuntu: open dash and type usb, it should show up
[00:56] <DasEi> TheBuntu: either usb-creator or unetbootin (amongst other possibilities can be used)
[00:56] <Gnea> IdleOne: usually it's a bit more vocal, I didn't realize it had been muted.
[00:56] <Gnea> IdleOne: you do realize it's been quite awhile since I bothered to use it, right? okay then.
[00:56] <IdleOne> Gnea: it hasn't, you are just using it wrong
[00:57] <Gnea> IdleOne: well, sorry. got an error saying that it wasn't formed correctly, so I had no idea if it got through or not.
[00:57] <Gnea> errors tend to mean that something didn't work right
[00:57] <jdhfr> how to enable gnome-shell? it segfaults for me!
[00:57] <ApocGoD> @gaelfx: How do I reinstall grub?
[00:57] <TheBuntu> gaelfx: DasEi: is it called startup disk creator
[00:58] <gaelfx> TheBuntu: just checked it myself, you're right ;)
[00:58] <gaelfx> ApocGoD: hang on
[00:58] <burningsands_> Hello all, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity, just having a small problem that I would like to get working, I set my user background, it doesn't show up at the login screen when I reboot. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
[00:58] <ApocGoD> gaelfx: Ok
[00:58] <TheBuntu> still on livecd.. did not see it in the menu... but run brougght it up
[00:58] <darren> can anyone help me with a unity issue?
[00:58] <mk> if I resize / with gparted, will this mess up my boot?
[00:59] <gaelfx> ApocGoD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:59] <ThePendulum> I'm installing Ubuntu 12.04 on a laptop, and the installation has graphics that have gone Titanic. How big is the risk that this is an unfixable issue after installation?
[00:59] <ApocGoD> Thanks
[00:59] <finish06> can anyone link to the ubuntu server 64bit torrent d/l?  cannot find it
[00:59] <jiohdi> mk, it could but likely will not unless you change the beginning of the partition /boot is locatedon
[00:59] <bugs_bugger> burningsands_: to change the login wp you gotta hack around a little and copy the desired wallpaper into the path with sudo. or you could try ubuntu tweak ;)
[00:59] <DasEi> mk:no, but you will have to recheck fstab afterwards
[00:59] <jdhfr> how to enable gnome-shell? it segfaults for me!
[00:59] <mk> DasEi: fstab?
[00:59] <DasEi> !uuid
[00:59] <jk4287> thanks guys! i have downgraded the nvidia to 290.xx ... thanks for all the tips and helps!
[01:00] <MonkeyDust> finish06  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[01:00] <mk> jiohdi: resizing will involve moving partition to the left
[01:00] <ThePendulum> finish06:http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=server&bits=64&release=lts
[01:00] <wylde> !torrents |finish
[01:00] <DasEi> mk:that files describes your partis by uuids, that change if you resize
[01:00] <DasEi> !fstab
[01:00] <jiohdi> mk, it should be ok
[01:00] <TheBuntu> I'm currently runing mint.. geting ready to install kubuntu 12.04... can i take my vbox windows 7 install... copy it to another harddrive.. then install vbox in kubuntu.. and put that vox windows 7 folder where it blongs and be ok
[01:00] <jdhfr> can I run ubuntu with gnome-shell?
[01:00] <DasEi> TheBuntu: yes
[01:01] <finish06> MonkeyDust, ThePendulum neither of thsoe are torrent ... is there no torrent for server?
[01:01] <varactor> yeah, vbox images can go anywhere
[01:01] <mk> so should I worry about fstab, or just go ahead and resize /?
[01:01] <TheBuntu> ok thanks
[01:01] <wylde> !torrents | finish06
[01:01] <jiohdi> jdhfr, gnome-shell xfce kde lxde openbox and a bunch of others
[01:01] <ThePendulum> finish06: I missed the torrent part, sorry
[01:01] <DasEi> jdhfr: terminal you mean? yes, install gnome-terminal
[01:01] <finish06> ThePendulum, no big.  thanks for link though :)
[01:01] <darren> Is it normal for the unity launcher in 12.04 to "lag" after workspaces haven't been switched for a period of time?
[01:01] <finish06> thanks wylde
[01:02] <ThePendulum> Installing Ubuntu 12.04 without a useable GUI like a boss here...
[01:02] <jdhfr> no, I mean normal gnome 3 and not that g*nity
[01:02] <t0ntin> Hi, all. I installed 12.04, updated it, restarted, got to the part where I choose either windows or ubuntu, I chose Ubuntu and the computer reboots every time. Any ideas?
[01:02] <vitor-br> No solution to my problem? I reinstalled the packages and deleted the configuration files and the error continues ..
[01:02] <wylde> finish06: np
[01:02] <DasEi> jdhfr: ubuntu-desktop
[01:02] <finish06> it appears to find the server torrent download, you have to go through the desktop page, then go to alternative downloads via that way and there it is...
[01:03] <bugs_bugger> t0ntin: can you see the grub menu? you might wanna try to boot an older kernel version if thats what has been updated
[01:03] <DasEi> !gnome3 | jdhfr
[01:03] <bugs_bugger> jdhfr: !cinnamon
[01:03] <bugs_bugger> dooo! theres no cinnamon entry??
[01:04] <DasEi> bugs_bugger: factoid, then |
[01:04] <jdhfr> I INSTALLED GNOME-SHELL PACKAGE BUT IT SEGFAULTS
[01:04] <DasEi> !cinnamon
[01:04] <bugs_bugger> oops
[01:04] <bugs_bugger> DasEi: still aint workin
[01:04] <ThePendulum> One of Ubuntu's major mistakes was implementing Unity too soon. It has improved a lot in 12.04, but that's too late for many.
[01:04] <DasEi> bugs_bugger: so there isn't one on that trigger
[01:04] <bugs_bugger> jdhfr: no need to shout. hit the capslog?
[01:05] <MonkeyDust> finish06  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[01:05] <wylde> !flavors | jdhfr
[01:05] <MonkeyDust> finish06  forget that, it's desktop
[01:05] <bugs_bugger> jdhfr: so, again, another alternative would be cinnamon
[01:05] <Fyodorovna> jdhfr, heh whats that sonny let me turn down my hearing aid. :)
[01:05] <jdhfr> cinnamon is a junk
[01:05] <wylde> jdhfr: or MATE <--- a fork of gnome 2
[01:06] <bugs_bugger> jdhfr: aint talking to you no more :|
[01:06] <MonkeyDust> wylde  not a fork, it's still gnome3
[01:06] <bugs_bugger> jdhfr: ^^
[01:06] <DasEi> jdhfr: what's the exact error you get ? tried a full update / reconfiguring x ?
[01:06] <Fyodorovna> jdhfr, have you done any removal of unity?
[01:06] <finish06> haha MonkeyDust
[01:07] <jdhfr> glib-gio-error: settings schema '<random junk here>' is not installed
[01:07] <VampiricPadraig> Hi everyone
[01:08] <jdhfr> trace/abort trap (core dumped)
[01:08] <wylde> MonkeyDust:  http://mate-desktop.org/about/  <-- claims to be a fork of gnome 2.
[01:09] <darren> Is it normal for windows and the unity launcher to "lag" after staying in a single work space for a period of time? Otherwise, it doesnt have this problem if you switch workspaces and back.
[01:09] <MonkeyDust> wylde  what i know, is that gnome2 is no longer maintained by the gnome guys
[01:09] <bugs_bugger> MonkeyDust: afaik MATE is a fork of gnome3
[01:10] <wylde> MonkeyDust: exactly why the mainainers of MATE made their own fork of gnome 2
[01:10] <varactor> im sure someone is working on gnome 2, kde 3 is still alive
[01:10] <bugs_bugger> MonkeyDust: Cinnamon is the GNOME3 approach to merge classic gnome-panel behaviour and gnome-shell style
[01:11] <bugs_bugger> MonkeyDust: ...thats based on Gnome3
[01:11] <PiNinja> So, I want to start a program using './', but the program is in a separate directory. How would I write that in a script?
[01:11] <MonkeyDust> bugs_bugger  you should address wylde , i use neither cinnamon or mate
[01:11] <Infinite8> Want to switch over to the 64 bit version to take advantage of the 8GB of RAM I have installed.  Will all my applications run on the 64 bit?
[01:11] <wylde> PiNinja: './path/to/binary'
[01:12] <jdhfr> Infinite8: most will, but will be less stable
[01:12] <PiNinja> wylde: Thank you.
[01:12] <krababbel> Infinite8: probably
[01:12] <VampiricPadraig> Installed 12.04 earlier. I have the RT2501 Wireless USB. Doesn't seem to be performing well. High ping in TeamSpeak, sites taking forever to load etc. Anyway I could improve it? Thanks
[01:12] <Infinite8> jdhfr:  shld I just go with the 32 bit and PAE, or still 63 bit
[01:12] <bugs_bugger> MonkeyDust: ah, right. lost the overview ^^
[01:13] <darren> Infinite8, when I have to use 32 bit applications on my 64 bit install, I just install ia32-libs
[01:13] <varactor> VampiricPadraig, anything with slow networking, I always disable ipv6 and go from there
[01:13] <darren> if that helps, lol
[01:13] <zen_monkey> i can't bring my wifi up (rtl8187b internal) i get SIOCSIFFLAGS unknonwn error 132... what can i do?
[01:13] <Infinite8> darren:  how do u install this ia32-libs
[01:14] <varactor> Infinite8, PAE is just as good unless youll need apps to use over 2gb of memory
[01:14] <bugs_bugger> MonkeyDust: maybe i shouldnt advertise the shell of ubuntus rival lm here anyway ;)
[01:14] <Dr_willis> i always use 64bit os on any 64bit hardware i got. - not seen a need to limit myself to 32bit these days
[01:14] <Dr_willis> i have seen benchmarks showing pae being slower then a 64bit install. but that was last year. it may be better now.
[01:14] <L3top> varactor: why is that? The over 2gb app assign
[01:15] <zen_monkey> Infinite8, on a terminal run "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs"
[01:15] <darren> Infinite8: in ubuntu: open a terminal, and type sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[01:15] <zen_monkey> without the quotes
[01:15] <PiNinja> Would I have to escape a slash with this command? .//home/user/binary ?
[01:15] <varactor> pae can use up to 64gb of ram
[01:15] <L3top> Dr_willis: slower for what by how much?
[01:15] <darren> oh zen beat me to it xD
[01:15] <cmon> any1 know where I could get information using rtmpdump?
[01:15] <Dr_willis> L3top,  a few % depending on the task. i forget where i saw the benchmarks at.
[01:15] <zen_monkey> and i waited a bit hehe ;.)
[01:16] <VampiricPadraig> varactor, That seemed to improve website speeds but doesn't fix TeamSpeak.
[01:16] <L3top> I have seen phoronix benchmarking with specific applications...
[01:16] <wylde> PiNinja: no idea, although I thought \ was escape not / ... I bet they know over in #bash though! :)
[01:16] <darren> Is it normal for windows and the unity launcher to "lag" after staying in a single work space for a period of time? Otherwise, it doesnt have this problem if you switch workspaces and back.
[01:16] <jdhfr> how to fix gnome-shell?
[01:16] <PiNinja> wylde: Thank you. I'll go ask over there.
[01:16] <krababbel> Isn't it more like 32bit apps can't see more than 4GB, but you have to substract the memory used by the OS?
[01:16] <darren> Its like the launcher lags to like 30 fps, in comparison, if that makes sense
[01:16] <zen_monkey> jdhfr, fix?
[01:17] <DasEi> jdhfr: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome
[01:17] <DasEi> jdhfr: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-shell*
[01:17] <DasEi> jdhfr: else full update and, after backup, a new xorg.conf
[01:17] <DasEi> (safemode)
[01:17] <gaelfx> zen_monkey: I think you can just install multiarch-support
[01:18] <jdhfr> I don' t take that BS, it works fine on my hardware except buntu
[01:18] <abs> HI people! So, I want to edit/make a simple logo. I see that Gimp is not installed by default... is there some other program that is installed that Iḿ maybe not informed about?
[01:18] <DasEi> krababbel: in general, though can :
[01:18] <DasEi> !pae
[01:18] <bugs_bugger> abs: just install gimp?
[01:18] <DasEi> krababbel: any reason not to use 64bit >?
[01:19] <varactor> not really
[01:19] <krababbel> DasEi: no, I'm using 64bit :)
[01:19] <vexaxv> errr anyone excited for steam on linux?
[01:19] <varactor> but most of the 64bit apps are just recompiled 32 bit ones
[01:19] <zen_monkey> gaelfx, what for? if after the suggestion on ia32... i just got in the middle between Infinite8 and darren
[01:19] <bugs_bugger> abs: if you want to edit an svg or any vector, inkscape might be the choice for you
[01:20] <gaelfx> zen_monkey: I know, I was just saying that because it's simpler that ia32libs, it's a meta-package that makes sure anything needed for multiarch is there
[01:20] <krababbel> Though if I had less RAM, I'd use 32bit.
[01:20] <Infinite8> gaelfx:  what's simpler then the ia32
[01:20] <krababbel> Because I can
[01:20] <DasEi> vexaxv: merely, thread for #ubuntu-offtopic rather
[01:21] <zen_monkey> gaelfx, i'll take that bit of knowledge with me, although the ones on the topic were they ;)
[01:21] <gaelfx> Infinite8: apt-get install multiarch-support, since it makes sure all the necessary libs and whatnot are there
[01:21] <Infinite8> gaelfx:  plus the ia32 u mentioned?
[01:21] <gaelfx> zen_monkey: haha, yeah, sorry about that, I wasn't sure who exactly was talking before
[01:21] <krababbel> Some computations are faster on 64bits, also there was a performance test of nvidia drivers in Windows7 and 64bit was a bit faster there too.
[01:21] <zen_monkey> gaelfx, no prob
[01:22] <gaelfx> Infinite8: multiarch-support is a meta package, it will install the ia32libs and whatever else is needed and keep it all up to date
[01:22] <nightrid3r> i just installed 12.04 and the unity sidebar doesn't work, only the dash home button works, the other buttons don't launch the associated program
[01:22] <TobsCore> hey, I got a question. I'm trying to set up ssh on a friend's computer. but I cannot even ping his ip.
[01:22] <skull> has anyone installed the QuakeIII port for linux ioquake3, I'm having problem with the path for the pak0.pk3 file
[01:23] <varactor> are you using the external ip?
[01:23] <gaelfx> TobsCore: is there a firewall?
[01:23] <TobsCore> how can he get his ip (is it the one, that websites show), or is there a command for that?
[01:23] <TobsCore> it's debian running on there.
[01:23] <varactor> ifconfig
[01:23] <Infinite8> gaelfx:  ok, ok.  Just that wen I have to make the switch, gonna have quite a few apps intalled and hope most of em run ok on the 64.  with 8GB of RAM, this baby is gonna be my power house. lol
[01:23] <Fyodorovna> nightrid3r, are you seeing any apps in the dash or stuff in general?
[01:23] <zen_monkey> anyone brave enough to beat a rtl8187b and SIOCSIFFLAGS error 132?
[01:23] <varactor> but that will show the ip his router gave him
[01:23] <gaelfx> TobsCore: http://ip-address-lookup-v4.com/
[01:23] <TobsCore> but isn't that to local network ip adresse
[01:24] <MonkeyDust> TobsCore  kindly /join #debian
[01:24] <darren> Is it normal for windows and the unity launcher to "lag" after staying in a single work space for a period of time? Otherwise, it doesnt have this problem if you switch workspaces and back.
[01:24] <varactor> after that make sure port 23 is open
[01:24] <nightrid3r> Fyodorovna: looks normal but none of the apps launch except for the dash
[01:24] <varactor> and sshd is running
[01:24] <TobsCore> haha, i expierenced many nice users on here, so I thought I'd try it again.
[01:24] <TobsCore> And as I'm a ubuntu user I thought it would by my mistake.
[01:25] <krababbel> darren: no idea, I had performance issues in Opengl games, and gnome-shell doesn't have that problem.
[01:25] <varactor> nearing the end of our test
[01:25] <nightrid3r> Fyodorovna: in the dash apps launch fine, its just in the sidebar it doesn't work
[01:25] <gaelfx> Infinite8: I run 64-bit on my mainbox, never had a problem with any apps, so don't worry too much
[01:25] <Fyodorovna> nightrid3r, I had a problem of missing apps that a reset of unity fixed, try alt-f2 and run unity --reset and also try the same using replace as well.
[01:25] <varactor> I'm getting three hours more battery life with 12.04 over win7
[01:25] <ejv> a lot of people don't realize ubuntu has its roots in debian so they tend to overreact TobsCore, no harm done
[01:25] <nightrid3r> Fyodorovna: ok i'll try
[01:26] <gsr> Hi all.  Just got a second hand computer, with an ATI Radeon HD series graphics card, and dual monitors.  At first, with the free drivers, ubuntu could see both monitors, but would only mirror them (settings->displays->[uncheck the mirror option] did nothing).  Installed fglrx, and amdcccle saw both monitors and enabled them as dual monitors.  But now the background on the right on is all white, and the display settings in ubuntu only see
[01:26] <gsr> one monitor
[01:26] <gsr> anyone else had this problem before?
[01:26] <TobsCore> ejv: Yeah, and as I'm new to linux there are some obstacles, that are killing you for hours.
[01:26] <Infinite8> gaelfx:  cool
[01:26] <L3top> gsr lspci | grep VGA
[01:26] <TobsCore> Spoken in general. Is it hard to set up ssh on a local machine and connect to it over the internet?
[01:27] <jfreak53> TobsCore: No
[01:27] <ejv> TobsCore: one command and some toggling in your firewall/router
[01:27] <jfreak53> TobsCore: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:27] <gaelfx> Infinite8: a few years ago, running 64-bit was a pain in the rear, but nowadays, most apps have at least some support
[01:27] <jfreak53> Tully: done
[01:27] <gsr> L3top, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV710 [Radeon HD 4350]
[01:27] <jfreak53> TobsCore: that's if you have firewall enabled.
[01:27] <ejv> it's not quite that simple, he needs to adjust his local firewall and/or router to open port 22, or whatever port he wants sshd to listen on
[01:28] <krababbel> Infinite8: you could search ubuntu packages to see if the stuff you need works too.
[01:28] <nightrid3r> Fyodorovna: unity --reset worked, thanks allot
[01:28] <Fyodorovna> nightrid3r, cool, no problem .:)
[01:28] <jfreak53> ejv: as I said, if he has firewall enabled.  Most home PC's don't need it and Ubu doesn't have it enabled by default
[01:28] <krababbel> Infinite8: each packages shows availablity for each architecture.
[01:28] <TobsCore> jfreak53: okay. :) that sucks.
[01:28] <TobsCore> i'll asking in #debian then.
[01:28] <Infinite8> krababbel:  pretty new to linux so is this done in synaptic
[01:28] <gaelfx> can vlc insert subs into an mkv file?
[01:28] <TobsCore> thanks for all the great advice.
[01:29] <jfreak53> TobsCore: why?
[01:29] <Infinite8> krababble:  the search?
[01:29] <krababbel> Infinite8: no, on ubuntu website.
[01:29] <TobsCore> I thought i was supposed to.
[01:29] <TobsCore> well, my friend is running a debian machine.
[01:29] <TobsCore> and i'm running ubuntu.
[01:29] <jfreak53> TobsCore: are you using ubu or debian?
[01:29] <Infinite8> krababble:  don't happen to have a link to that do you?
[01:29] <varactor> ssh is old, old and universal
[01:29] <varactor> its the same everywhere
[01:30] <TobsCore> we set up the ssh-server, but I cannot connect to it.
[01:30] <krababbel> Infinite8: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:30] <ejv> i wouldn't go as far to say the servers are universal, there are many variants of ssh servers in the wild :P
[01:30] <TobsCore> and when it comes to the firewall, I must admit, that I don't really know how to deal with that.
[01:31] <L3top> Hmm... that is a bit of a puzzle gsr.
[01:31] <varactor> TobsCore, It'd be easiest to find a guide on google, it would go step by step
[01:31] <escott> TobsCore, if you are using ufw just run "gufw" and open the ssh port
[01:31] <violinappren> !ufw | TobsCore
[01:31] <gsr> L3top: I can use both screens, but moving the mouse between them ends up with the cursor always being on the opposite side, the background is grey (the exact same grey as the light grey window background for the default theme)
[01:32] <gaelfx> gsr: sounds like an orientation problem. reverse the position of the monitors ;)
[01:32] <TobsCore> escott: What is gufw
[01:32] <TobsCore> and what it good for.
[01:32] <escott> TobsCore, its the gui for ufw
[01:32] <DasEi> !info gufw
[01:32] <L3top> The grey bg is a bit of a mystery though.
[01:32] <gsr> L3top, and, the display it's detecting its calling "laptop" and All Settings -> Display is saying it cannot see the screen X-Chat is in... even though this is the one with the unity bar on the side
[01:32] <TobsCore> well ubottu told me :)
[01:33] <DasEi> TobsCore: ubott.. is the channel ro-bot, the !info <Packaname> does
[01:33] <DasEi> !info gedit
[01:34] <DasEi> TobsCore: you can /msg it in private to look up
[01:34] <wylde> !cookie | DasEi :P
[01:34] <bugs_bugger> on a related note to my nfts crash: whats a good programm to restore images from a sd card?
[01:34] <wylde> :D
[01:34]  * DasEi munches
[01:34] <TobsCore> DasEi: That's great. :)
[01:34] <jdhfr> WHY gnome-shell is segfaulting in ubuntu?
[01:34] <escott> !undelete | bugs_bugger
[01:35] <violinappren> !bug | jdhfr
[01:35] <escott> bugs_bugger, photorec is the name of one of them iirc
[01:35] <DasEi> jdhfr: tried suggested solutions ?
[01:35] <jdhfr> which solutions?
[01:35] <gsr> L3top, and fglrx detects both monitors
[01:35] <varactor> so my wife just told me she likes episodes 1-3 more than 4-6
[01:36] <DasEi> jdhfr: boot safemode, update, -f install, reconfiguring shell, xorg.conf ?
[01:36] <violinappren> !ot | varactor
[01:36] <gaelfx> varactor: take her to a psychologist
[01:36] <TobsCore> so what's the ssh port?7
[01:36] <bugs_bugger> escott: thanks, thank god the sd is fat32
[01:36] <wylde> TobsCore:  22
[01:36] <TobsCore> wylde: Thanks :)
[01:36] <jdhfr> it soesn't work
[01:37] <DasEi> jdhfr: the box in reach ? reboot it, press left ctrl at grub-time
[01:37] <pmp6nl> Hello, how do I associate ssh with the terminal so I can click on an ssh link right from Forefox?
[01:37] <pmp6nl> Firefox*
[01:37] <jdhfr> and?
[01:37] <DasEi> jdhfr: boot to safemode so you get a commandline
[01:37] <bugs_bugger> DasEi: hey, was it a fortune cookie? what's it say. Or a google cookie? whats your surfing behaviour?
[01:37] <DIMITRUSS> helllo i have ubuntu  , and a laptop lenovo 470 , the laptop have a fast keys  , sound , sound + ,sound - , video , and hibernate key , When i touch one , the keyboard stop and i dont keyring nothing , someone can help me?
[01:38] <jdhfr> DasEi: I don' t have 'safemode' entry, which parameters to mean and why?
[01:38] <DasEi> bugs_bugger: I put in my teethhole for bad times, but let's stay topic
[01:39] <bugs_bugger> DasEi: sure thang ^^
[01:39] <violinappren> pmp6nl: depends on the terminal emulator you use, try: x-terminal-emulator --help
[01:39] <DasEi> jdhfr: can also edit the common entry and add single to it
[01:39] <pmp6nl> violinappren, thanks!
[01:40] <jdhfr> DasEi: what for?
[01:40] <DasEi> commandline..
[01:40] <DIMITRUSS> can help me with one lenovo z470
[01:40] <jdhfr> then what to do with commandline?
[01:40] <ThePendulum> I've got a bit of a problem... I installed Ubuntu on a laptop, but it either goes black after booting or utilizes only half the screen
[01:40] <DasEi> jdhfr: I won't repeat my suggestions again ^
[01:41] <violinappren> !nomodeset | ThePendulum
[01:41] <jdhfr> these suggestions does not work
[01:41] <bugs_bugger> ThePendulum: have you tried....installing drivers. violinappren was too fast ^^
[01:41] <DasEi> jdhfr: you tried them already ?
[01:42] <jdhfr> I just did, it still crashes
[01:42] <ThePendulum> violinappren: Thanks! I'll try that
[01:43] <koud_> hello I am having some problem I wam trying to cross compile glew with mingw but it wants i586-mingw32msvc-ld and i586-mingw32msvc-gcc installed
[01:43] <koud_> but those are in separate packages that are not compatible with eachoter in atp
[01:44] <ThePendulum> bugs_bugger: Blindly installing the drivers is the challenge I am encountering, lol
[01:44] <gsr> L3top, aha, I went into amdcccle, and changed it from single display (mutli desk) to multiple display (multi desk), and now ubuntu sees both monitors, and I have dual screens.  The only issue now is that there are two Unity "launcher bars" (or whatever its caled, with Dashhome at the top) - and I only want the one that's on the far left.  it also seems to catch my mouse like a sticky trap, because I have to move the mouse the equivelent of
[01:44] <gsr>  about 1000 pixels before it goes from right to left.
[01:45] <gsr> right to left monitors* (or vica versa)
[01:45] <DIMITRUSS> joder son el colmo como no me pueden ayudar
[01:45] <MonkeyDust> !es
[01:46] <wylde> gsr: System Settings >Displays ---> Change "Launcher PLacement" option.
[01:46] <gsr> wylde: just found it, and the sticky windows thing.  guess I should look before I type.  thanks!
[01:46] <wylde> gsr:  all good :)
[01:47] <b^j> after I install 12.04 on my asus eee 1005 the track pad stops working after I have been logged in for a while and the only way I have found to fix it is to reboot, any ideas on how to actually fix this?
[01:48] <gaelfx> gsr: the sticky trap thing is normal, and I'm pretty sure the launcher thing is normal too
[01:48] <nishttal2> i had to remove unity and ubuntu-desktop as I am trying to recompile and older version of compiz.. how do i build/install them again from source?
[01:48] <violinappren> b^j: do you have "disable touchpad while typing" enabled in mouse settings? if so, uncheck it
[01:48] <gaelfx> gsr: if you find a way to fix them though, you could probably make a whole lot of other ubuntu users happy :D
[01:49] <shadykhan> how can i uninstall xfce/xubuntu ?
[01:49] <gsr> gaelfx: you just display sticky edges, and change launcher placement to the screen you want, both settings are in All Settings -> Displays
[01:49] <wylde> gaelfx: <wylde> gsr: System Settings >Displays ---> Change "Launcher PLacement" option. :)
[01:49] <b^j> violinappren: good idea i will try that
[01:49] <gsr> disable* sticky edges
[01:49] <syk> im trying to partition my hd to install ubuntu 12.04, do i just make 3 partitions 4gb swap, 15gb / and 50gb /home?
[01:49] <DasEi> shadykhan: sudo apt-get remove --purge xubuntu-desktop
[01:50] <wylde> !puregnome | shadykhan
[01:50] <violinappren> nishttal2: http://www.moosechips.com/2008/09/ubuntu-rebuild-a-source-package/
[01:50] <DasEi> shadykhan: but can also have few in parallel, just set one specific as default
[01:50] <elkng> is it good idea to have information message for user after installation of ubuntu, like: "achievement unlocked, ubuntu installed" ?
[01:50] <escott> syk, if you want
[01:51] <nishttal2> violinappren, thanks
[01:51] <bugs_bugger> ThePendulum: if you got nvidia just do sudo apt-get install nvidia-current. that should do it afaik
[01:51] <MonkeyDust> syk  be sure to have more swap than ram
[01:51] <sambagirl> i'm having a problem with chmod i type in chown apache /var/html/orangehrm/
[01:51] <sambagirl> it tells me there is no such user
[01:52] <syk> MonkeyDust: i have 16gb ram
[01:52] <sambagirl> isnt apache a user by default when you install apache?
[01:52] <ubukou> anyone here knows where to find sopcast urls ?
[01:52] <escott> sambagirl, try www
[01:52] <xubuntu> Hello guys, I have an emergency, my main drive which has win/ubuntu is saying cant mount daemon inhibited, I am from live usb session right now, what can I do to recover files on that disk ???
[01:52] <violinappren> sambagirl: www-data
[01:52] <sambagirl> use www-data as the user?
[01:52] <xubuntu> I actually need just one file
[01:52] <wylde> sambagirl: I believe ububtu default apache runs under user www-data
[01:52] <sambagirl> use www-data as the owner?
[01:52] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[01:52] <escott> syk, you probably wont be able to hibernate with less swap than ram
[01:52] <violinappren> sambagirl: the command should be: chown -R www-data:www-data /var/html/orangehrm/
[01:53] <sambagirl> thanks all
[01:53] <sambagirl> brb
[01:53] <syk> escott: so what should i change swap size to?
[01:53] <jdhfr> I need help with installing gnome-shell
[01:53] <escott> syk, if you want to hibernate you probably want at least 16g
[01:53] <syk> ok
[01:53] <jdhfr> the package is not operable
[01:53] <xubuntu> guys anyone know what to do in case of mount failure, daemon inhibited error
[01:53] <ThePendulum> I'm afraid nomodeset does not work :(
[01:54] <gaelfx> escott: might, not probably
[01:54] <sambagirl> wow i have been wasting hours on that :D
[01:54] <sambagirl> that did it
[01:54] <violinappren> xubuntu: did you try to mount from command line?
[01:54] <violinappren> !mount | xubuntu
[01:54] <sambagirl> one last quiestion is this relevant?
[01:54] <jdhfr> elkng: it's childish
[01:54] <gaelfx> syk: how much RAM do you have and how much of it do you normally use?
[01:54] <sambagirl> Web server allows .htaccess files 	Not enabled! This makes OrangeHRM vulnerable to security attack
[01:54] <bugs_bugger> ok, i dont remember who pointed me to testdisk but THANKS A BUNCH. i got my broken ntfs fixed. i can mount it again. now i only have to figure out what files were lost
[01:55] <elkng> isnt ubuntu for children ?
[01:55] <xubuntu> violinappren: sudo mount /dev/sdb ?
[01:55] <syk> gaelfx: i have 16gb ram, and im not sure how much i use :\
[01:55] <gaelfx> elkng: ubuntu is for everyone
[01:55] <MonkeyDust> gaelfx  dont feed trolls
[01:55] <bugs_bugger> elkng: lol ^^
[01:55] <jdhfr> linux is for children, but ubuntu tries to be professional
[01:55] <violinappren> xubuntu: sudo mount /dev/sdXY /path/to/folder
[01:55] <sambagirl> well i got www,eldy,org for my moms interface
[01:55] <violinappren> xubuntu: where XY is your drive and partition number
[01:55] <zen_monkey> is there a way to override a wifi hardware button? i switched wifi cards on a laptop and it wont turn on no mather what i do
[01:55] <nightrid3r> sambagirl: check http.conf for allow override and set to all then .htaccess will work
[01:55] <bugs_bugger> elkng: there actually was a project supposed to be used in schools and stuff: edubuntu
[01:56] <gaelfx> syk: you should start a normal workload and see how much RAM you're actually using
[01:56] <xubuntu> violinappren: I just tried and it froze on mounting
[01:56] <bugs_bugger> elkng: but that's kinda dead
[01:56] <sambagirl> ok thanks nightrid3r
[01:56] <n00by> how can i install a taskbar in gnome-shell?
[01:56] <elkng> "was" ?
[01:56] <elkng> it wasnt kanonical's project ?
[01:56] <bugs_bugger> elkng: well, is...lurking arount ^^
[01:56] <escott> syk, free -m will be your help there. the thing to keep in mind is that having 16gb of ram means you are more likely too keep lots of applications open and if you hibernate those programs must be written out to swap. so if you dont run memory intensive things then it wont matter, but if you do then you have to have space for all your running applications
[01:56] <gaelfx> syk: it is safest to have swap twice the size of ram, but since you have 16GB, chances are you won't need much swap except for hibernate, in which case the swap only needs to be as big as the amount of ram you're using at the time
[01:57] <AquaGourd> hello
[01:57] <violinappren> sambagirl: set AllowOverride to All in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[01:57] <bugs_bugger> is it just me or do trigger posts dissappear after a while?
[01:57] <crayz94> anyone able to help troubleshoot a pptp connection issue?
[01:58] <elkng> "Edubuntu Latest stable release 26 April 2012;"
[01:58] <violinappren> nightrid3r: sambagirl: allowoverride is a per directory setting and shouldn't use set in httpd.conf
[01:58] <ThePendulum> Is there a way to find out what graphics drivers to install through the terminal?
[01:58] <jdhfr> linux is a wonderful environment for children to play programmers and hackers
[01:58] <violinappren> ThePendulum: look for the "additional drivers" application
[01:59] <gaelfx> violinappren: he means in terminal, cli
[01:59] <elkng> jdhfr: and to make it easier to understand its anough to start with kernel+X
[01:59] <bugs_bugger> jdhfr: and half-trash their ntfs-sandbox and restore it more or less ^^
[01:59] <L3top> elkng: Do you have an ubuntu support related question?
[01:59] <ThePendulum> violinappren: Is it usable in cli?
[01:59] <violinappren> xubuntu: /dev/sdb is NOT a valid partition device, this is a disk device, a partition device should end in a digit
[02:00] <jdhfr> I need help with running gnome-shell
[02:00] <nightrid3r> violinappren: your right, i realy should try to remember that ubuntu is different from RHEL :)
[02:00] <elkng> L3top: is there console installer ?
[02:00] <elkng> 3rd party one ?
[02:00] <b^j> violinappren: so far so good on the mouse fix, thanks!
[02:00] <xubuntu> violinappren: I am trying sdb4 but it freezes
[02:01] <xubuntu> I think its corrupted
[02:01] <xubuntu> gparted didnt open at all, only could access from disk util
[02:01] <violinappren> ThePendulum: it's called: jockey-text
[02:01] <wylde> !info jockey-cli
[02:01] <b^j> xubuntu:  does dmesg tell you anything?
[02:01] <wylde> doh
[02:01] <L3top> I am not sure I understand your question. I can tell you that there are several spell check apps available from software center.
[02:01] <violinappren> b^j: np
[02:01] <xubuntu> b^j daemon inhibited, cannot mount or something like that
[02:02] <sparkybluefox_> Furries rule:
[02:02] <violinappren> xubuntu: what's the full command line you use?
[02:02] <sparkybluefox_> night night everybody!
[02:02] <ThePendulum> violinappren: thanks, pity it didn't return anything
[02:02] <xubuntu> b^j errors pointed towards closing windows system improperly that damaged file system but why is whole drive experiencing errors/ there is ubuntu on other side
[02:02] <b^j> xubuntu: is gparted running by chance?
[02:02] <ThePendulum> Any drivers, that is
[02:02] <joker_> Hi can someone help me with my install of 12,04 I installed but get a video card error???
[02:02] <xubuntu> b^j I terminated it cause it was hanging on scaning device, couldnt scan
[02:03] <violinappren> ThePendulum: what's your graphics card? find out with: sudo lshw -C display
[02:03] <b^j> xubuntu: do you see it in a ps still?
[02:03] <b^j> xubuntu: it may not have closed completely
[02:03] <bugs_bugger> hey guys, this AquaGourd guy is sending me weird messages. i dont recall if there's a irc block?
[02:03] <xubuntu> violinappren: sudo mount /dev/sdb4
[02:03] <gaelfx> bugs_bugger: /ignore
[02:03] <n00by> how can i get a taskbar in gnome-shell?
[02:04] <violinappren> xubuntu: you're missing the mount directory/path, use this: mkdir /tmp/mydrive; sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /tmp/mydrive
[02:04] <DasEi> !pm | AquaGourd
[02:04] <xubuntu> b^j problem is deeper I think, when i am trying to install os on top of another partition, installation cant even lead to partition utility, its ha? :S
[02:04] <violinappren> !classic | n00by
[02:04] <AquaGourd> hello
[02:04] <AquaGourd> How do I fix my GRUb issue
[02:04] <AquaGourd> ITs giving me a kernel error
[02:05] <studentz> joker are you in a terminal or a desktop?
[02:05] <DasEi> AquaGourd: more details ?
[02:05] <ThePendulum>  violinappren: It doesn't return much useful. The vendor is supposed to be Intel, that's all it says
[02:05] <nightrid3r> !notunity
[02:05] <xubuntu> violinappren: I am trying this now sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /tmp/mydrive
[02:05] <violinappren> !details: AquaGourd: all on one line
[02:05] <n00by> violinappren yes i know but thats not gnome-shell
[02:05] <joker_> I am on the live dvd
[02:05] <AquaGourd> well it just shows GRUB
[02:05] <jdhfr> I need someone from a support personnel to fix the gnome-shell in my system
[02:05] <AquaGourd> and a white line flashes
[02:05] <ubukou> how in the name of you know am i going to find valid SopCast Streams ?
[02:05] <joker_> studentz desktop will not load
[02:06] <bugs_bugger> gaelfx: thanks. he was just kiddin me ^^
[02:06] <ubukou> is there a search engine for this kind of things besides Google?
[02:06] <DasEi> AquaGourd: safemode working ?
[02:06] <AquaGourd> hmm
[02:06] <AquaGourd> no
[02:06] <n00by> violinappren, i tried the webupd8team-gnome3 ppa, but the dependencies in that are broken, its unusable
[02:06] <AquaGourd> How do I enter that?
[02:06] <xubuntu> violinappren: it kind of did the same, delay and then it wont do anything
[02:06] <crayz94> looking for help on pptp vpn, logs show error "Non-zero Async Control Character Maps are not supported!"  .... i believe this is the fail point.  Anyone use pptp connection?
[02:06] <b^j> xubuntu: i would expect a different error from corrupted drives (i did some file system fuzzing a while back and seen tons of corruption errors) could you double check that gparted is actually dead
[02:06] <n00by> !notunity
[02:06] <bugs_bugger> AquaGourd: can you boot into any version of linux kernel anyhow? maybe even blindly?
[02:07] <AquaGourd> doubt it
[02:07] <xubuntu> b^j i ll check from task manager one sek
[02:07] <DasEi> AquaGourd: when grubs start, press left ctrl, 2nd entry
[02:07] <AquaGourd> 2nd entry?
[02:07] <violinappren> xubuntu: pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[02:07] <tangoshukudai> Hey guys, I just downloaded ubuntu iso and I can't figure out how to install it on windows, where is the exe?
[02:07] <violinappren> !pastebin | xubuntu
[02:07] <DasEi> AquaGourd: from the grub menu
[02:08] <ClintSp> unity-greeter is now showing my user "clint".  How do I get it recognized?
[02:08] <ClintSp> *not
[02:08] <n00by> violinappren, do you know how i can install a taskbar extension to gnome-shell?
[02:08] <violinappren> !install | tangoshukudai
[02:08] <xubuntu> violinappren: Disk /dev/sdb: 640.1 GB, 640135028736 bytes
[02:08] <xubuntu> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 77825 cylinders, total 1250263728 sectors
[02:08] <xubuntu> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[02:08] <xubuntu> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
[02:08] <xubuntu> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
[02:08] <pmp6nl> Hello, if i scp to a server via terminal shouldnt it be asking me my password?
[02:08] <FloodBot1> xubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:08] <xubuntu> Disk identifier: 0x860a776d
[02:08] <violinappren> xubuntu: use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <tangoshukudai> pmp6nl: not if you gave it an auth key
[02:09] <escott> pmp6nl, unless you have auth keys or have a master control session
[02:09] <jdhfr> how the package with gnome registry editor is called?
[02:09] <DasEi> AquaGourd: can you get there ?
[02:09] <escott> !info dconf-utils | jdhfr
[02:09] <AquaGourd> yeah
[02:09] <DasEi> AquaGourd: getting to a commandline ?
[02:09] <escott> !dconf-tools | jdhfr
[02:10] <pmp6nl> tangoshukudai, escott I have not given it an auth key yet, I was in the process of doing this and it didnt ask me for a password when I tried to scp the key.pub
[02:10] <DasEi> jdhfr: there is no such as a registry in *nix
[02:10] <xubuntu> violinappren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/956538/
[02:10] <xubuntu> violinappren: ? correct ?
[02:10] <escott> !info dconf-tools | jdhfr third times a charm
[02:10] <n00by> how can i force to install a package ignoring its dependencies?
[02:10] <ztag100> Anyone know what this problem is: http://imgur.com/p6GI7
[02:10] <bugs_bugger> thanks for all the fish! bye.
[02:10] <DasEi> n00by: own risk: dpkg with force option, see man dpkg
[02:11] <xubuntu> violinappren: actually just checked I need sdb3 but I think same thing happens to it too
[02:11] <escott> pmp6nl, is ControlMaster set to on or auto?
[02:11] <DasEi> n00by: can easily bork your system
[02:11] <violinappren> xubuntu: you were missing the mount directory
[02:11] <pmp6nl> escott, I am not sure.  I have never used that. I am just starting to setup a server.  I have only installed ubuntu 12.04 and created a new user
[02:11] <peridot> do I have to do something special in precise to get zeitgeist to know what web sites I visit?
[02:11] <studentz> joker: restart from DVD n when you see  the screen press F6 (I'm not sure). and choose no apic , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd9WIcPKc-o. Sorry I just Upgrade n I solve the problems I found.
[02:11] <ClintSp> unity-greeter is not showing my user "clint".  How do I get it recognized?
[02:12] <escott> pmp6nl, its either authorized_keys of ControlMaster is set in ~/.ssh/config
[02:12] <DasEi> n00by: whole story, what to you want to achieve ?
[02:12] <xubuntu> violinappren: how what should I do ?
[02:12] <DasEi> AquaGourd: getting to a commandline ?
[02:12] <AquaGourd> yeah
[02:12] <nimbiotics> Need help installing a printer. I can see the printer is connected to the router, and I followed the instructions at brother.com to install the cups driver,  but when I try a test page I get that "printer might not be connected" what can I do? TIA!
[02:12] <violinappren> xubuntu: same command just with sdb3
[02:12] <DasEi> AquaGourd: sudo update-grub
[02:12] <sambagirl> hey is it easy to setup dyndns in lubuntu?
[02:13] <DasEi> AquaGourd: look if kernel(s) are found
[02:13] <xubuntu> violinappren: just need file from sdb3. windows/desktop and then i can format whole thing
[02:13] <xubuntu> ok
[02:13] <violinappren> sambagirl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[02:13] <pmp6nl> escott, I have no ~/.ssh/config
[02:13] <tonyyarusso> sambagirl: there are a couple of utilities in universe for it, yes.
[02:13] <escott> pmp6nl, then it must be authorized keys
[02:13] <violinappren> xubuntu: sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /tmp/mydrive
[02:13] <n00by> DasEi: i want to install gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme from webupd8team-gnome3 but it tells me it would depend on gnome-shell-extensions-common which it would not install
[02:14] <AVP> how do i mark a file as executable?
[02:14] <tonyyarusso> AVP: chmod +x
[02:14] <violinappren> AVP: chmod u+x filename
[02:14] <escott> AVP, chmod +x filename
[02:14] <nightrid3r> AVP: chmod +x
[02:14] <Logan_> AVP: chmod +x
[02:14] <pmp6nl> escott, ok.  I tried to ls on the server, but isnt not showing anything.  I suppose that means the file didnt get there
[02:14] <ztag100> nevermind found it
[02:14] <ztag100> oh, no I didn't
[02:14] <DasEi> !info tinydyndns | sambagirl
[02:14] <xangua> n00by: sounds like you want to contact that PPA author
[02:14] <ztag100> it's still happening
[02:14] <Jordan_U> sambagirl: Yes, ddclient.
[02:14] <xubuntu> violinappren: says error opening /dev/sdunavailableb3/ resource temporarily
[02:14] <xubuntu> violinappren: failed to mount same reason
[02:14] <trism> n00by: if this is 12.04, all of the extensions in that ppa have been combined to a single package, just install gnome-shell-extensions
[02:14] <ztag100> if I logout and login again
[02:14] <tonyyarusso> We better have two or three more people answer AVP - I don't think it was clear ;)
[02:15] <escott> pmp6nl, you can try scp -vvv it should give you a more verbose output
[02:15] <AVP> huh???
[02:15] <AquaGourd> How do you install a new WM in ibuntu?
[02:15] <peridot> AVP: if you're using nautilus, you can change permissions from the "properties" dialog (right-click)
[02:15] <sambagirl> ok i saw that ddclient thanks
[02:15] <AquaGourd> say KDE or so?
[02:15] <AquaGourd> and what's good IRC client?
[02:15] <Jordan_U> sambagirl: You're welcome.
[02:15] <DasEi> n00by: tried to install the latter beforehand ? or by - f install ?
[02:15] <violinappren> xubuntu: did you try mounting using the file manager?
[02:16] <william_> hi - guys - anyone know how to install ubuntu on a macbook as dual boot?
[02:16] <wylde> !desktop | AquaGourd
[02:16] <ztag100> AquaGourd: xchat or irssi
 using wine and download a app from the net that run windsow
[02:16] <AquaGourd> ah
[02:16] <AquaGourd> hm
[02:16] <AquaGourd> chat is good and fast I think
[02:16] <AquaGourd> xchat
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> AquaGourd: XChat for Gnome (not xchat-gnome), irssi for CLI, not familiar with KDE options.
[02:16] <n00by> DasEi, yes it is installed already
[02:16] <AquaGourd> ah
 yeah it wasn't
[02:16] <pmp6nl> escott, it just says:  Executing: cp '--' ........
[02:16] <AquaGourd> thanks
[02:16] <william_> hi
[02:16] <AquaGourd> I'll come back
[02:16] <DasEi> !messenger | AquaGourd
[02:16] <william_> anyone know how to install ubuntu on macbook
[02:16] <petersonsilva> hello guys, I've installed gnome 3.4 on Precise and I can't change the shell theme in gnome-tweak-tool. The drop-down menu is locked, and there's some sort of warning sign beside it with no clue on how to solve this problem.
[02:17] <DasEi> AquaGourd: try to reboot after the update
[02:17] <petersonsilva> is there any other way of changing the theme? Is this a known issue?
[02:17] <wylde> !macbook | william_
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> william_: I haven't tried it yet, but there is some info on the wiki somewhere.
[02:17] <DasEi> n00by: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get -f install
[02:17] <DasEi> thren retry
[02:17] <DasEi> then*
[02:17] <violinappren> !macbook | william_
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> !mac  | william_
[02:18] <n00by> trism, DasEi i need to relogin brb
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> bah, same page
[02:18] <escott> pmp6nl, is it a big file
[02:18] <william_> ubottu / tony/violinappren......... thx
[02:18] <AVP> HELP
[02:18] <DasEi> !ask
[02:18] <wylde> !help | AVP
[02:18] <violinappren> !terminal | AVP
[02:18] <pmp6nl> escott, no, its 393 bytes.  I am trying to send id_rsa.pub
[02:19] <crayz94> assume no one has experience with pptp vpn connections? :(
[02:19] <escott> pmp6nl, what is the command you are running
[02:19] <violinappren> AVP: or you can right click on the file and select properties
[02:19] <jdhfr> I need someone from a support personnel to fix the gnome-shell in my system, it segfaults
 what are you talk program i am using or OS?
[02:20] <pmp6nl> escott, scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub pmp6nl@xx.xxx.xxx.xxx --- with the correct ip address
[02:20] <violinappren> jdhfr: http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/overview
[02:20] <escott> pmp6nl, try scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub user@host:~/
[02:21] <DasEi> AquaGourd: if the grubupdate diddn't do it, might trying recreating initramfs
[02:21] <pmp6nl> escott, will that work if I am sending the key from my laptop to a server elsewhere?
[02:21] <wylde> jdhfr: this channel is made up of 99.9% users/volunteers.  Ok, or what violinappren said works too :)
[02:21] <jdhfr> so canonical does crap software to sell support?
[02:21] <peridot> AVP: if you can see the files in a window, try right-clicking on the file and look for a 'properties' option
[02:22] <escott> pmp6nl, your command doesn't specify what path to put the file in user@host:/path/where/the/file/should/be/copied/to
[02:22] <violinappren> jdhfr: help make it better or opt to use something else : )
[02:22] <AVP> peridot: i see
[02:22] <studentz> jdhfr keep your language pls
[02:22] <DasEi> jdhfr: not really, but some patience, own research and following instructions makes it work
[02:22] <OhGodWhy> Hey guys?
[02:22] <jdhfr> I can use gnome-shell both in opensuse and fedora just fine
[02:22] <OhGodWhy> Quick question.
[02:22] <tomswartz07> help! for whatever reason, after the 12.04 upgrade, my root fs partition is stuffed full! I cant uninstall or do anything. How can I clear up space on the / partition?
[02:22] <violinappren> jdhfr: then use them  :)
[02:23] <jdhfr> it is only ubuntu where it appears to be intentionally broken
[02:23] <violinappren> !details | OhGodWhy
[02:23] <xubuntu> violinappren: did but
[02:23] <ClintZ> After an release upgrade GDM was replaced with unity-greeter (GDM seems to be broken now) and unity-greeter does not allow me to login as user "clint".  What is the issue?
[02:23] <violinappren> !ops | jdhfr
[02:23] <xubuntu> violinappren: just trial/erroring
[02:23] <OhGodWhy> I'm buying some RAM, and I'm not sure whether much else matters apart from whether or not it's DDR2 or 3.
[02:23] <OhGodWhy> As long as I buy DDR2, should work fine, right?
[02:23] <escott> ClintZ, gdm was replaced by lightdm
[02:23] <violinappren> xubuntu: try rebooting and use the mount command again
[02:24] <wylde> OhGodWhy: buy what your hardware requires maybe?
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> violinappren: um, what?
[02:24] <b^j> xubuntu: i am still betting on gparted being hung
[02:24] <escott> OhGodWhy, you need to match the type ddr2 or ddr3 and you need to match the clockspeed of the ram you have (unless you plan to replace it)
[02:24] <violinappren> tonyyarusso: read upward
[02:24] <ClintZ> escott:  OK.  Maybe I should give that a try?  Any ideas why user wouldn't be listed?  I suppose I could create a new one..
[02:24] <OhGodWhy> Would it require a certain frequency though?
[02:24] <OhGodWhy> I plan to replace ALL the ram.
[02:24] <wylde> OhGodWhy: then you have to use what your motherboard supports.
[02:25] <OhGodWhy> Fair enough.
[02:25] <shaneo> hey guys im having an issue with unity no matter what i do the launcher will not autohide i installed the ppa for naturaul autohide also and still nothing any suggestions
[02:25] <AVP> i am using wine to run a windsow file and it said "The file '/home/AVP/Downloads/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[02:25] <DasEi> OhGodWhy: you can mix them (slots?) nah, buy 3, as its cheaper, all same type
[02:25] <wylde> OhGodWhy: so if it uses DDR2 now you have to replace it with DDR2
[02:25] <jdhfr> I cannot see metacity settings in dconf registry
[02:25] <xubuntu> b^j I terminated it and how do I open disk util from terminal ?
[02:25] <escott> OhGodWhy, check wikipedia for your processor/northbridge and it should tell you what frequencies you need, but if you are replacing all the ram anything you buy should be fast enough
[02:25] <OhGodWhy> Yeah, see that's what I thought.
[02:25] <shaneo> unity 5.12.0
[02:25] <DasEi> wylde: there are some exotics with bothtypes of slots, but can't mix it
[02:25] <Guest61908> Unity
[02:25] <tonyyarusso> jdhfr: Someone here might be able to help you with your issue, but they also might not know the answer, and as volunteers you can't demand a solution.  With patience and use of various resources (this channel, forums, mailing lists, and bug reports) you can usually find a solution eventually.
[02:25] <escott> ClintZ, what is not listed? a normal user account? what is the uid of that user?
[02:26] <Sixmsj> is there a way to get a global menu for emacs in 12.04?
[02:26] <peridot> AVP: that file is a disk image, you can't run it with or without wine
[02:26] <violinappren> AVP: ISO images are not executables ...
[02:26] <nightrid3r> AVP: why would you run an iso in wine ????
[02:26] <OhGodWhy> DasEi, I would prefer to use DDR3 but as I understand it, DDR3 has a different pin count and my slots are DDR2.
[02:26] <wylde> DasEi: yep I know, but I've always found it safer to lean towards the less exotic when you can't see the hardware yourself :)
[02:26] <DasEi> OhGodWhy: so you have your answer then :)
[02:26] <b^j> xubuntu: is it gone from the ps listing?  i would try the reboot violinappren suggested and see what happens then
[02:26] <OhGodWhy> So frequency shouldn't matter? It's not an exotic motherboard.
[02:27] <studentz> AVP:   It is a file or an application
[02:27] <OhGodWhy> Shouldn't it support most if not all?
[02:27] <xubuntu> b^j I am alreadt from live session
[02:27] <petersonsilva> hello guys, I've installed gnome 3.4 on Precise and I can't change the shell theme in gnome-tweak-tool. The drop-down menu is locked, and there's some sort of warning sign beside it with no clue on how to solve this problem. Do you have any idea on that? =x
[02:27] <newtoarch> Has anyone installed the alx driver?
[02:27] <OhGodWhy> I have a very tiny timeframe to order all the parts, and I know what to get for most of it, but the RAM has me stumped.
[02:27] <ztag100> omg, I am loving the HUD
[02:27] <b^j> xubuntu: did you reboot after you had the issues with gparted?
[02:27] <OhGodWhy> Keep in mind the computer's currently being sent here, so I don't have it with me.
[02:27] <DasEi> OhGodWhy: sudo apt-get install hwinfo pastebinit && sudo hwinfo | pastebinit     ;apart there is #hardware
[02:27] <atlas> Quick question that someone may have the answer for. Does Xubuntu use a Grub2 bootloader
[02:27] <wylde> OhGodWhy: if it has DDR2 now then that's what you have to replace it with.
[02:27] <AVP> wrong file a next file anyways what do i do
[02:28] <xubuntu> b^j i had problems because I cant even boot in any system, whole drive is corrupted
[02:28] <violinappren> atlas: yes
[02:28] <DasEi> atlas: yess
[02:28] <escott> OhGodWhy, ddr2 and ddr3 are not slot compatible
[02:28] <OhGodWhy> wylde: I know DDR2, I mean do I need a certain frequency? Or anything will do as long as I swap out all the sticks.
[02:28] <b^j> xubuntu: right so have you rebooted the live environment since the gparted issues
[02:28] <atlas> is there a way to change to a burg loader for the fancy GUI
[02:28] <atlas> ?
[02:28] <DasEi> OhGodWhy: fsb of cpu ?
[02:28] <studentz> AVP a file like docx is different from a program that you want to install using wine
[02:28] <escott> OhGodWhy, if you had ddr2 800 and added ddr2 600 that would not be good b/c your ram would be slower. if you are replacing all it shouldnt matter
[02:28] <Fingel> anyone know how I can disable the check for new release screen on old releases? Its for a kiosk
[02:28] <wylde> OhGodWhy: you can actually mix them, however it's best to match them so that all are the same.
[02:29] <OhGodWhy> Thanks for the advice man.
[02:29] <Jeruvy> OhGodWhy, you should review your motherboards documentation for the type of memory you should use.
[02:29] <OhGodWhy> I'll do that.
[02:29] <DasEi> atlas: sure, can ue other bootloaders, too
[02:29] <violinappren> AVP: what are you trying to do with the ubuntu ISO ?
[02:29] <pmp6nl> escott, scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub pmp6nl@xx.xxx.xxx.xxx/~/.ssh/authorized_keys  for ~/.ssh/authorized_keys  ???
[02:29] <DasEi> use, atlas
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> OhGodWhy: there's also a ##hardware channel btw
[02:29] <atlas> Im looking to dual boot crunchbang and dont want ruin it
[02:29] <escott> pmp6nl, why not use ssh-copy-id it will setup all the permissions for you, and won't obliterate your auth_keys file
[02:30] <AVP> violinappren: not a IOS, a browser that only support windsow but i want to run it in wine
[02:30] <tomswartz07> After my 12.04 upgrade, my root fs partition is stuffed full! I cant uninstall or do anything. How can I clear up space on the / partition?
[02:30] <DasEi> atlas: use alternate or netinstaller, don't make the ubu-installer install grub, add it to crunchbag's then
[02:30] <Jordan_U> atlas: We don't support BURG here, and it seems like it has likely been abandoned. GRUB2 has themes also, like this one: http://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/261/
[02:30] <AVP> studentz: didn't know
[02:30] <pmp6nl> escott, not sure, just following the directions at http://library.linode.com/securing-your-server#sph_using-ssh-key-pair-authentication
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> AVP: right-click, run in Wine?
[02:31] <tonyyarusso> tomswartz07: try 'apt-get clean' first.
[02:31] <violinappren> AVP: then why is there an ubuntu ISO in that message!
[02:31] <balazs> Hello. How do I fix things if one of my package dependencies is messed up ? It needs to remove a package that is "essential for the system"
[02:31] <escott> pmp6nl, use ssh-copy-id user@hostname
[02:31] <xubuntu> b^j and I rebooted generally 500 times with different live cds and stuff
[02:31] <xubuntu> I might assume drive is broken :|
[02:31] <studentz> AVP: If you want to install a windows program with wine q4wine is a nice and easy GUI to use. If you want to open a file try to look for the app to open it
[02:31] <atlas> I didnt know. Thanks
[02:31]  * txomon|home is away: Estoy ocupado
[02:31] <crayz94> anyone know what logs i could use to troubleshoot vpn pptp connection?  using /var/logs/syslog primarily right now and its not too specific
[02:31] <tomswartz07> tonyyarusso: tried that, no success. :(
[02:31] <tonyyarusso> !away > txomon|home
[02:31] <DasEi> atlas: can go either way, here grub2 is expected/supported
[02:31] <violinappren> !away | txomon|home
[02:32] <jdhfr> how can I purge entire Dconf user settings?
[02:32] <escott> tomswartz07, first you have to figure out what is using the disk, with either du on the command line or baobob the disk usage analyzer
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> tomswartz07: bother.  You can also use the Disk Usage Analysis tool from the Accessories menu to find things you don't need.
 all right expect how do i allow it to open no permission
[02:32] <DasEi> !trash | tomswartz07
 wrong file
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> AVP: err, was that a sentence?
 the one i have is working good
[02:33] <tomswartz07> ubottu: AH! Trash! I nearly forgot about that. Ill see if that clears up a bit
[02:33] <b^j> xubuntu: your partition table is valid enough for fdisk to read it and identify the partitions, what live image are you using now? and to confirm you haven't run gparted on this current boot, correct?
[02:33] <atlas> Thanks guys. Just wanted to make sure before I tried installing Crunchbang next to my Xubuntu
[02:34] <DasEi> tomswartz07: channel ro-bot, triggered by !
[02:34] <DasEi> !trash
[02:34] <pmp6nl> escott, nice. I think that worked.  Is there a good way to test it?
[02:34] <PiNinja> I'm on a chat site, and the chat saves chat history in the form of a cookie using flash. It pops up with a small box asking if I want to accept or deny the storage of the chat history. However, I cannot select the box. Can someone help me?
[02:34] <escott> pmp6nl, ssh user@host
[02:34] <nimbiotics> Need help installing a printer. I can see the printer is connected to the router, and I followed the instructions at brother.com to install the cups driver,  but when I try a test page I get that "printer might not be connected" what can I do? TIA!
[02:34] <violinappren> AVP: for running a windows executable  just use: wine yourfile.exe
[02:35] <DasEi> PiNinja: permission to store on the cookie dir ? and rather have a log on disk for that
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> PiNinja: Pretty much the only thing you can do is try using a different flash player.  ie if you're using Adobe's try Gnash and vice versa.  Beyond that you're pretty much out of luck - Flash is evil like that.
[02:36] <pmp6nl> escott, nice.  The keyring came up.  I think it works.  Thanks so much!
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> PiNinja: although DasEi may have a point too - Firefox probably does support Flash cookie security settings now days.
[02:36] <hlkj> oi
[02:37] <AVP> it's working now thank's peeps
[02:38] <hlkj> hey
[02:38] <pmp6nl> escott, Im good to go.  It now logs in without a password.  Thank you!!!
[02:39] <cereal__> How do i get help with software center?
[02:40] <xangua> !ask | cereal__
[02:40] <DasEi> pmp6nl: install fail2ban, use different ssh port, long pswd and investigate portknocking
[02:40] <jdhfr> why to submit a bug to launchpad I need to install junk on my system?
[02:41] <tomswartz07> clearing the trash did a little bit to help the stuffed partition, but not much progress. Im still locked out from using aptitude. any advice to clear some apps?
[02:41] <hlkj> hey, my xchat isnt working right
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> jdhfr: Uh, what do you think you need to install?
[02:41] <DasEi> jdhfr: have a tea for now and come back later ?
[02:41] <cereal__> I have Ubuntu 12.04 installed on a laptop and desktop and trying to use the sync feature in the software center. Both systems are one a logged in to the same ubunt one account. when i click file sync between computers i dont see multiple computers.
[02:41] <hlkj> what irc client you use
[02:41] <hlkj> ?
[02:41] <Flannel> tomswartz07: sorry, stupid question, but have you cleared your apt cache?
[02:42] <DasEi> Flannel: yes, did already
[02:42] <DasEi> (tom..)
[02:42] <tomswartz07> Flannel: yep. i can clear it, but any other function is locked out.
[02:42] <jdhfr> tonyyarusso: stuff to make stacktraces and upload them
[02:42] <k014> hello!, i am having a basic problem with make file, i need some guidance..... i am triying to convert all svg images into pdf, this is what i far so far for a simple (4 lines) makefile: http://pastebin.com/UhrHBRJ4
[02:42] <ThePendulum>  Is there any other way to fix my Ubuntu installation?
[02:43] <k014> but says: make: *** No rule to make target `%.pdf', needed by `all'.  Stop.
[02:43] <DasEi> ThePendulum: haven't seen your issue first hand
[02:43] <Flannel> tomswartz07: well, you could remove (via rm) old kernels, assuming you don't have /boot on a separate partition (this won't matter, becuase you'll purge their packages later anyway)
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> jdhfr: you don't need that to file a bug.....  It may make your bug report more useful, depending on the bug, but it's certainly not required.
[02:43] <Jordan_U> k014: Try ##workingset for questions about make
[02:43] <escott> k014, all %.pdf needs to be all: filename.pdf
[02:43] <tomswartz07> what has me comfused is that my / is 168G and its completely full now. I have no way of determining what filled the partiton; boabab locks on use. Old kernels are gone.
[02:44] <omgirc> ubuntu 12.04 with recommended nvidia drivers, the unity sidebar doesn't hide like it did in 11.10. how do you make it hide when you make a window full screen?
[02:44] <k014> Jordan_U: ok i will go there thx, escott: i want to use a inference target
[02:44] <wylde> jdhfr:  you don't need to install anything. You can just run 'ubuntu-bug packagename' or 'apport-collect bugnumber'
[02:44] <tomswartz07> Flannel: I only have 3.2 kernels installed from my fresh upgrade
[02:44] <Flannel> tomswartz07: what about du?
[02:44] <pmp6nl> DasEi, thanks for the tip.  I will install those and change the port
[02:44] <ThePendulum> Ubuntu still boots with a black or half (recovery) screen
[02:45] <jdhfr> wylde: yes, apport is a name of a junk I mean
[02:45] <escott> k014, but its completely wild at that point. make all with all: %.pdf translates to "make anything and everything that could possibly exists and ends in .pdf" which is not what you want. you dont want it to try and make asdlfka;lhetr;.pdf
[02:45] <tomswartz07> Flannel: du outputs a whole ton of info- how to grep it for usefulness?
[02:45] <DasEi> pmp6nl: the first 2 are no brainers, portknocking is a session as much as the 3 of them together
[02:45] <wylde> jdhfr: well you will already have it installed. All you have to do is run the command in terminal.
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> tomswartz07: My preferred method is du -hcs
[02:45] <xubuntu> b^j yes  I havent run gparted on xubuntu 12.04 it failed cause of my corrupted windows partition that could have had damaged whole drive ?
[02:45] <NotJimCarrey> can someone help me with "Couldn't configure pre-depend libdb5.1 for libpam-modules" when i try to upgrade to 12
[02:46] <escott> pmp6nl, or just forget everything DasEi suggested and disable ssh password login and rely on your authkeys
[02:46] <DasEi> hehe ;)
[02:46] <cereal__> I have Ubuntu 12.04 installed on a laptop and desktop and trying to use the sync feature in the software center. Both systems are one a logged in to the same ubunt one account. when i click file sync between computers i dont see multiple computers.
[02:46] <pmp6nl> escott, DasEi ok.  I was planning on disabling ssh by password
[02:46] <tomswartz07> tonyyarusso: du -hcs outputs just total fs space?
[02:47] <Flannel> tomswartz07: du -h --max-depth=1
[02:47] <pmp6nl> escott, DasEi Is it easy to reeneable this if I need to add someone else as a user with authkeys?
[02:47] <Flannel> that'll give you a summary of each of the folders (and not subfolders) in your current dir, so you can try to figure out what's misbehaving.
[02:47] <DasEi> pmp6nl: yes, sure
[02:47] <escott> pmp6nl, then thats plenty. disabling password takes the "password" size up to 2^4096 everything else is just playing with small coefficients in front of your ascii password complexity
[02:48] <pmp6nl> DasEi, ok. Thanks. escott cool. Will do
[02:48] <CharlesA> Does anyone know why running "halt" on a Ubuntu 12.04 box only halts the system instead of powering it off as well?
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> tomswartz07: you can use it to drill down and find big stuff.  For instance, 'du -hcs /*' will tell you that /proc is not your problem, and perhaps that /home or /var is.  Then if it's home, 'du -hcs /home/*' will tell you which users to check out, and so on.
[02:48] <DasEi> CharlesA: try sudo shutdown -h now
[02:48] <CharlesA> DasEi: That works fine as does halt -p
[02:49] <boottella> hola me podría alguien ayudar con nvidia en ubuntu? gracias
[02:49] <DasEi> !es
[02:49] <b^j> xubuntu: that is odd, not sure i would expect different errors for corruption, like bad superblock.  have you tried fscking the linux partition and seeing what it says?
[02:49] <boottella> sorry
[02:49] <DasEi> :)
[02:50] <tomswartz07> tonyyarusso: my /home is on a different partition. however, it's pretty full with downloads. would that make a difference?
[02:50] <PiNinja> So, I'm still trying to click the 'allow' for a flash storage thing. What is weird is it let me do it on a different linux distro (arch linux) on all three major browsers (FF, GC and opera). It isn't letting me do it on here, however. I tried reinstalling flash, and it still didn't work. Would posting a screen shot of the problem help with what I'm talking about?
[02:50] <Dade> I have a few SSL Virtualhosts and they work fine until I restart the box. Then all of the SSL virtualhosts point to the directory listed in default-ssl. If I restart Apache2 service manually everything works as intended. any ideas?
[02:50] <jdhfr> how to return the menubar to windows?
[02:50] <Flannel> tomswartz07: If it's a separate partition, it won't affect / at all, no.
[02:50] <tomswartz07> Flannel: thats what I thought. hrm.
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> tomswartz07: nah, but you get the idea.  Just ignore anything that's a separate mountpoint.
[02:51] <CharlesA> DasEi: There was a bug report on it from 11.10, but I haven't been able to find if the behavior of halt is intended or if it is a bug.
[02:51] <DasEi> CharlesA: can't say either, I'm using shutdown
[02:51] <CharlesA> DasEi: Ok, thanks for the help.
[02:52] <mutlaq> hi, i installed ubuntu 12 and my graphics is not working.I can only repair via
[02:52] <firefish5000> Hello, I have a USB with GRUB2 question. Should grub2 be installed on its own partition with bios_grub flag or with a OS and boot flag?
[02:52] <TheBuntu> What version of ati catalyst is in the 12.04 repo??
[02:52] <jdhfr> my menubars has gone, how to show them again?
[02:52] <wylde> CharlesA: if the -p switch works to power down then I'd imagine that's how it was intended to work.
[02:52] <Flannel> CharlesA: halt not powering off is by design.  I can't find the document with the rationale, but there's apparently one.
[02:52] <tomswartz07> tonyyarusso: my /var/log is 161G. What?
[02:52] <wylde> CharlesA: man halt
[02:52] <_0x783czar> Hello, I have an issue with package authenication on Ubuntu 10.04.  Everytime I try to install a new package it tells me that it can't authenticate it.  The only way I can get around this is to install from the terminal and tell it to install it anyway.  Any idea why this might be happening or how I can fix it?
[02:52] <mutlaq> hi, i installed ubuntu 12 and my graphics is not working.I can only repair via terminal repair window but unable to connect to internet. How do i connect to wifi? i tried iwconfig wlan0 essid ACESS key KEY but not working
[02:53] <tonyyarusso> tomswartz07: Wow.  Um, that might be your problem.  :P
[02:53] <tomswartz07> /var/log/upstart is 80G
[02:53] <CharlesA> Flannel: Running halt by itself powered off the box on Lucid, and it looks like it did the same up until 11.10 from what I can find
[02:53] <omgirc> ubuntu 12.04 with recommended nvidia drivers, the unity sidebar doesn't hide like it did in 11.10. how do you make it hide when you make a window full screen?
[02:53] <n00by> Does anyone here know how i can get rid of the red exclamation mark besides an extension in gnome-tweak-tool which prevents it from activating?
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> tomswartz07: Unless you have a reason to care, you can just start deleting things willy-nilly in there, especially the gzipped versions from previous days/weeks.
[02:54] <tomswartz07> /var/log/lightdm is 77G what the heck is going on here?
[02:54] <whoever> hi all i think there may be a package issue i am tring to install clamav, and the db for clamav which i think is clamav-freshclam, but when i try to install clam-freshclam i get 0 packaged will be upgraded/installed from aptitude . can someone assist
[02:54] <tomswartz07> tonyyarusso: is there an issue with the program that it's dumping such massive amounts of data into these log files?
[02:56] <wp_> * soreau (~soreau@unaffiliated/soreau) 进入了 #ubuntu
[02:56] <newtoarch> Has anyone installed the the ethernet "ALX" driver for AR8131?
[02:56] <TheBuntu> Anyone know what version of ATI Catalyst is in the 12.04 repo???
[02:57] <ThePendulum> I guess I'll have to have it fall back to Windows
[02:57] <tomswartz07> /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log is 77G. There must be an issue with the program that it made such a large file? isnt there a limit on the size of log files?
[02:57] <Mauhdeeb> thebuntu: I have 8.96.7 packaging version
[02:58] <tonyyarusso> tomswartz07: Probably, but I don't know what.  Are all of the logs in upstarts directory big, or just one day?
[02:58] <Flannel> tomswartz07: There is no limit, and yeah, something isn't right. You can clear that, or clear most of that, and things will work.  Looking at it first may give you some insight into /why/ though.
[02:58] <wylde> !info fglrx-amdcccle
[02:59] <tomswartz07> Flannel: any idea what I should be looking for?
[02:59] <Gnea> !info fglrx | TheBuntu
[02:59] <wylde> !info fglrx-amdcccle-updates
[02:59] <TheBuntu> Mauhdeeb: what version would that be 12.2 12.3 12.4
[02:59] <Flannel> tomswartz07: No idea.  I imagine you'll see the same thing repeated a billion times or something like that.
[03:00] <worudy> hello everybody
[03:00] <omgirc> twinview stops mouse from one monitor to the next, then releases it. can't make unity side bar disapear on making window ful screen. current nvidia drivers installed any idea how to fix ?
[03:01] <tomswartz07> Ah, like a LightDM "failed to get connection from VNC socket: Error accepting connection: too many open files"?
[03:01] <worudy> any body can share me the software of qq for ubuntu?
[03:01] <tomswartz07> thats about 1000000 lines in /var/log/upstart/lightdm.log
[03:01] <_0x783czar> Hello, I have an issue with package authenication on Ubuntu 10.04.  Everytime I try to install a new package it tells me that it can't authenticate it.  The only way I can get around this is to install from the terminal and tell it to install it anyway.  Any idea why this might be happening or how I can fix it?
[03:01] <DasEi> wylde: good to know, that means propitary work again with ati in precise , Gnea ?
[03:01] <cereal__> I have Ubuntu 12.04 installed on a laptop and desktop and trying to use the sync feature in the software center. Both systems are one a logged in to the same ubunt one account. when i click file sync between computers i dont see multiple computers.
[03:01] <wylde> DasEi: I assume so :) I use nvidia myself
[03:01] <tomswartz07> so far, its been LightDM in both logfile locations.
[03:02] <Mauhdeeb> Driver Packaging Version 8.96.7-120312a-135598C-ATI
[03:02] <nimbiotics> Need help installing a printer. I can see the printer is connected to the router, and I followed the instructions at brother.com to install the cups driver,  but when I try a test page I get that "printer might not be connected" what can I do? TIA!
[03:04] <n00by> trism: do you know how i would enable the bottom panel extension msge-bottompanel in gnome-tweak-tool (it has a red exclamation mark)?
[03:04] <L3top> _0x783czar: can you paste the actual error?
[03:05] <nhanbvn483> ..
[03:06] <pmp6nl> In apache2.conf does it matter how many spaces go in between StartsServers and 1 on the line --- StartServers 1
[03:06] <malv1> does eufi + ati proprietary actually work?
[03:06] <malv1> my system fails to boot
[03:06] <wylde> !ubuntuone | cereal__
[03:06] <_0x783czar> L3top: of course, give me a second
[03:07] <malv1> anyone here use UEFI?
[03:07] <tomswartz07> malv1: i do
[03:07] <mutant> malv1: yeah, what's up?
[03:07] <malv1> tomswartz07: do you use any proprietary drivers?
[03:07] <malv1> ati or nvidia?
[03:08] <cereal__> ubottu: but that is still the same account that is used for the software sync system is it not?
[03:08] <tomswartz07> ati proprietary, why do you ask?
[03:08] <malv1> for some reason my system refuses to post with uefi
[03:08] <scientes> Debolaz, can you paste lspci for me?
[03:09] <gaelfx> cereal__: ubottu is a bot, not a person
[03:09] <wylde> cereal__: I think you are not understanding what ubuntu one is.... it sync the files to a "cloud" then if you choose you can setup the other computer to sync the folders on the "cloud"
[03:09] <cleric_preston> Hey guys. I just installed Mint 12 and it's overheating like crazy. I heard that I should change the kernel version since the bug is in it. So how do I install kernal without the overheating bug?
[03:09] <tomswartz07> malv1: what version of ubuntu are you on? i had some issues with early 11.10 and the efi boots
[03:09] <malv1> 12.04
[03:09] <mutant> anyone have an mdadm array that they spin down/up with hdparm?  My drives go to standby just fine and on schedule, but when I try to bring them back up, hdparm says they are in standby and mdadm --detail says they are removed and faulty spares
[03:09] <wylde> cereal__: at any rate hit up the website and read a bit and/or visit #ubuntuone.
[03:10] <cleric_preston> Help.
[03:10] <malv1> looks like I will need to reinstall everything back to non-efi
[03:10] <jon__> i need help with my audio skipping every so often, seems to only be certain programs
[03:10] <tomswartz07> malv1: did you see if grub-efi installed correctly?
[03:10] <wylde> !mint | cleric_preston
[03:10] <malv1> yea, it installed. it stops working as soon as I activate proprietary drivers
[03:10] <REK_007> malv1: I have an hybridEFI on my board .. had faced a few problems like you with 10.04 .. the only solution was to reset BIOS and then set up everything again
[03:10] <tonyyarusso> cleric_preston: This is an Ubuntu support channel only.
[03:10] <cleric_preston> wylde: It's the same issue in Ubuntu too, I just switched to Mint.
[03:10] <tomswartz07> malv1: AH! okay.
[03:11] <tomswartz07> malv1: youre on ATI's drivers, right?
[03:11] <escott> malv1, and you do have gpt partition table right?
[03:11] <cereal__> wylde: thanks i understand what ubuntuone is but my issue is with the new sync feature in the software center, and from what i read it uses ubuntuone log in to sync installed applications between computers, and that is what is not working.
[03:11] <wylde> cleric_preston: regardless Mint isn't suppoeted here.
[03:11] <malv1> escott: yea
[03:11] <cleric_preston> Fine, tell me what to do for ubuntu, how to revert back to older kernel without the overheating bug?
[03:11] <chu> lol
[03:11] <tonyyarusso> cleric_preston: You already told us you're not using Ubuntu.
[03:11] <_0x783czar> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/956597/
[03:11] <malv1> i am also using full disk encryption
[03:11] <malv1> usually where it asks me for a password it just hangs now
[03:12] <cleric_preston> tonyyarusso: Dual boot, I enter in Ubuntu again it overheats.
[03:12] <wylde> cereal__: ummm no, ubuntu one doesn't sync installed applications.
[03:12] <tomswartz07> malv1: i needed to install the proprietary drivers manually. i had a similar issue
[03:12] <_0x783czar> _0x783czar: this error also occurs when I use the graphical client but I do not have an option to proceed anyway
[03:12] <cleric_preston> tonyyarusso: In other words, you don't know anything about the bug and Ubuntu and you just fail at life.
[03:12] <tomswartz07> malv1: heres the link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:__Need_to_fully_remove_-fglrx_and_reinstall_-ati_from_scratch
[03:12] <malv1> tomswartz07: I'll try that
[03:12] <_0x783czar> L3top: this error also occurs when I use the graphical client but I do not have an option to proceed anyway
[03:12] <chu> cleric_preston: Uncalled for.
[03:12] <_0x783czar> L3top: it occurs with every package
[03:13] <wylde> !ops | cleric_preston
[03:13] <cereal__> wilde: 12.04 software center has sync between computers - Do you know how to get this to work?
[03:13] <wylde> cereal__: like I said, you apparently don't understand what it does. Also they can help you better in #ubuntuone
[03:14] <tomswartz07> malv1: gave a dead link: sorry! here's a live one: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29
[03:14] <malv1> tomswartz07: thanks
[03:14] <cereal__> wylde - i am thinking you dont know what that sync does, as it syncs installed applications between computers using the same account..
[03:14] <AVP> what format do Ubuntu work with?
[03:15] <chu> AVP: Could you rephrase your question please?
[03:15] <cereal__> wilde: not ubuntuone - im talking in the ubuntu software center.
[03:15] <_0x783czar> AVP: what sort of format?
[03:16] <wylde> cereal__: no, ubuntu one does not do that. It can sync folders, address book, music etc. It will not sync all your installed applications. I won't argue the point with you. Again, they can help you better with your problem in #ubuntuone.
[03:16] <tomswartz07> tonyyarusso: thanks for your help. Im back up and running. I appreciate it!
[03:16] <jon__> i use ubuntu 10.04 and the audio skips every few seconds while using pandora in chrome, any idea what is wrong?
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> tomswartz07: excellent!
[03:16] <cereal__> wylde: thanks but i dont want help with ubuntu one i want help with ubuntu software centers sync feature.. Thanks again.
[03:16] <tomswartz07> you too Flannel!
[03:17] <sherif> Your connection to twitter.com is encrypted with 128-bit encryption. However, this page includes other resources which are not secure. These resources can be viewed by others while in transit, and can be modified by an attacker to change the look of the page.
[03:17] <sherif> The connection uses TLS 1.0.
[03:17] <sherif> The connection is encrypted using RC4_128, with SHA1 for message authentication and RSA as the key exchange mechanism.
[03:17] <sherif> The connection is not compressed
[03:17] <FloodBot1> sherif: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:17] <pmp6nl> Does it matter if my mysql root password is the same as my server root password?  Or is this a big no-no
[03:17] <sherif> how can i fix that
[03:18] <nimbiotics> Need help installing a printer. I can see the printer is connected to the router, and I followed the instructions at brother.com to install the cups driver,  but when I try a test page I get that "printer might not be connected" what can I do? TIA!
[03:18] <Gnea> jon__: got a runaway chrome process that's chewing up cpu?
[03:18] <malv1> nimbiotics: the path that Ubuntu detects is wrong
[03:18] <Gnea> !printer | nimbiotics
[03:18] <malv1> nimbiotics: make sure you give it the correct IP manually
 like tar.gz or exe
[03:19] <jon__> Gnea: no, it looks normal, i also rebooted and that did not help
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> sherif: By getting a job at Twitter and redoing how their web site works.
[03:19] <shadowspell> Hey there is any way to run itunes on ubuntu  ?
[03:19] <Gnea> AVP: Ubuntu relies on the Debian Package Management System
[03:19] <Gnea> shadowspell: no.
[03:19] <sherif> tonyyarusso r u kidding
[03:20] <nimbiotics> malv1: The IPaddress is right
[03:20] <Gnea> jon__: what cpu/mem?
[03:20] <sherif> tonyyarusso twitter is always heavy n takes long time to open i need to fix this
[03:20] <malv1> yea
[03:20] <AVP> Gnea: oh thank's so how do i download opera browser for Ubuntu?
[03:20] <xangua> AVP: go to opera.com and download the deb
[03:20] <Gnea> !opera | avp
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> sherif: You could block various items that it's trying to load if you really want, but there's nothing to "fix" - the problem is your personal preference, not technical.
[03:21] <jon__> Gnea: chrome's task manager shows shockwave using about 11 cpu and 79k memory
[03:21] <Gnea> xangua: It's better to just follow the already-documented directions
[03:21] <pareshan> hi
[03:22] <AVP> what's the package format?
[03:22] <Gnea> AVP: just follow what ubottu said
[03:22] <sherif> tonyyarusso u mean i have blocked this site?
[03:22] <Gnea> AVP: well, the files have a .deb extension
[03:22] <xangua> Gnea: installing the deb does install opera... And also adds the repository if that is what you mean
[03:23] <OomElvis> Q: what would be the fastest way to get all files in a directory?
[03:23] <OomElvis> cos i have a directory with 43,000 folders
[03:23] <rrabit> ....
[03:23] <Gnea> xangua: relying on the official documentation is the preferred method in this channel rather than pointing people to go directly to an external website. If the documentation requires it, it will let them know.
[03:23] <OomElvis> correction: a count of all directories within a folder
[03:24] <OomElvis> i need a count of all directories within a folder
[03:24] <AVP> Gnea: oh
[03:24] <tonyyarusso> AVP: package format is .deb
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> sherif: No, I mean if you want it to load faster you can block ads, pictures, flash, etc.
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> OomElvis: `find /your/folder -type d | wc -l` ought to do it.
[03:27] <mutlaq> hi, my ubuntu graphics is not working and I can only access the repair window. I have a thumg drive and want to copy important files in it via the repair window but none of the thumb drive is read. What should I do to copy files to the thumb drive?
[03:28] <sherif> tonyyarusso no man it takes long time to open not cuz connection slow or something the other sites opens fine but its just twitter that takes long time
[03:29] <jon__> Gnea: any other ideas?
[03:30] <OomElvis> tonesfrommars: did try that, but was slow
[03:30] <OomElvis> tonesfrommars: dont know if i can find a faster why, apart from having a C program do it maybe
[03:32] <niranjan> Hi folks, fresh install of 12.04, facing weired problem. Running eclipse indigo with sun jdk 1.7, crashes whenever I switch to differentr application
[03:34] <tyci123> hello?
[03:35] <tyci123> somebody!
[03:35] <s_spiff> hey guys, need help installing ubuntu to a flash drive using a mac. Already tried the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From_Mac_OSX first error - hdutil not found
[03:35] <jon__> does anyone else know why my audio would be skipping using pandora in chrome?
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> s_spiff: there's another I in hdiutil
[03:35] <tyci123> i need help with using sd cards in 11.10
[03:35] <tyci123> they wont appear
[03:36] <s_spiff> tonyyarusso:  oh crap!
[03:37] <tyci123> can someone help>
[03:37] <tyci123> ?
[03:37] <linuxuz3r> ask thge question
[03:37] <somethinginteres> Can someone in The United States tell me if Hulu is included as a source for the Unity "Video" Lens?
[03:37] <linuxuz3r> the
[03:37] <tyci123> i already did
[03:37] <tyci123> i need hel using sd card in 11.10
[03:37] <tyci123> *cards
[03:37] <linuxuz3r> tyci123, it wont recognize your sd card?
[03:38] <tyci123> yeah
[03:38] <linuxuz3r> do you have a usb converter
[03:38] <linuxuz3r> or is it built in sdcard reader
[03:38] <tyci123> no its built in
[03:39] <linuxuz3r> that may be the problem
[03:39] <tyci123> oh
[03:39] <tyci123> can i fix it
[03:39] <linuxuz3r> the drivers for the reader might not be supported
[03:39] <linuxuz3r> can you do lspci -v as root
[03:39] <tyci123> k
[03:39] <linuxuz3r> check your sd card reader
[03:40] <blackbird_> I have a question...  where is the tools/wifi path located under?
[03:41] <blackbird_> I am looking for this folder in order to install a particular program there
[03:41] <blackbird_> this is why I am asking
[03:41] <blackbird_> "Download the latest coWPAtty (currently coWPAtty-4.2) to /tools/wifi"
[03:41] <blackbird_> I can't find /tools/wifi
[03:41] <rocker> what is new in precise pangolin?
[03:42] <linuxuz3r> tyci123, http://pastebin.com/Z8KV2V4U
[03:42] <linuxuz3r> it should look like that
[03:42] <rocker> hi!
[03:42] <linuxuz3r> try lspci -vvv
[03:42] <rocker> can someone suggest what is new in precise pangolin
[03:42] <tyci123> ok
[03:42] <rocker> !precise
[03:42] <blackbird_> ?
[03:42] <jgmdev> rocker,  applications menu access with alt key to search on them
[03:43] <linuxuz3r> tools wifi
[03:43] <linuxuz3r> blackbird_,  what are you trying to do?
[03:43] <blackbird_> install a program
[03:43] <rocker> jgmdev: can you suggest how to change the ldm theme in 12.04?
[03:43] <blackbird_> in the /tools/wifi directory linuxuz3r
[03:43] <blackbird_> I need to have the tarball in that directory
[03:44] <tyci123> wait where do i enter lspci -v?
[03:44] <tyci123> the terminal?
[03:44] <linuxuz3r> you my need the kernel image for your kernel
[03:44] <malv1> nope, reinstalling the catalyst drivers manually did not fix the problem. Ubuntu is just borken
[03:44] <marrok1> blackbird_, what program?
[03:44] <linuxuz3r> blackbird_, you my need the kernel image for your kernel
[03:44] <malv1> time to revert 5 hours of work to go back to a non-efi installation
[03:45] <blackbird_> cowpatty
[03:45] <linuxuz3r> i dont have tools directory in my ubuntu
[03:45] <malv1> everytime I give Ubuntu the benefit of the doubt I lose
[03:45] <marrok1> have you tried making one in your home directory ?
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> linuxuz3r: I don't think your instructions are written for Ubuntu...
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> Or you missed some earlier step
[03:46] <linuxuz3r> for what question tonyyarusso
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> sorry, that was for blackbird_
[03:48] <linuxuz3r> oh
[03:48] <linuxuz3r> blackbird_, just simply extract cowpatty to your tools/wifi directory
[03:48] <linuxuz3r> you need to make tools wifi directory on your own
[03:48] <linuxuz3r> it could be inside your home folder
[03:48] <adamsilver> can i uninstall os x completely and install ubuntu as the only os on a macbook pro?
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> adamsilver: "probably".  There seems to be some variation in hardware revisions.
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> check the wiki first
[03:56] <andrewb80> topic
[03:58] <TheBuntu> i was in mint.. just installed ubuntu 12.04.. and virtualbox.. copyed my vbox image to another harddrive.. all i have do do is copy it back or do i need to do any setting up?
[04:00] <kooo> Hey, so when I try to log in va lightdm, it just says logging in... the gui is still responisve in light dm
[04:01] <nightrid3r> i cant find aircrack-ng in the repo, is there a place to get it for 12.04?
[04:03] <andrewb80> Im running ubuntu on my sony vaio fs640 and runs good but Im having a text issue when my system has been running for a few hours, makes text almost unreadable, I shut down and reboot and fault stops for another few hours. has anyone seen this problem and is there a fix.
[04:03] <Riking> hello
[04:03] <Riking> my compiz crashes, i'm running on the TTYs
[04:03] <Riking> Just updated to 12.04 and compiz starts crashing after i log in
[04:03] <Riking> is there a quick fix?
[04:04] <Riking> need more system info?
[04:07] <alusion> Are there any online MMO's I can play on ubuntu [or linux in general]?
[04:08] <Riking> gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah can't start the gui
[04:10] <derekchiang> guys I'm totally frustrated.. need help..
[04:10] <derekchiang> I'm new to ubuntu and is now trying to connet to PPPOE via wifi
[04:11] <derekchiang> I use pppoeconf but it doesn't work
[04:11] <sadflapjack> Hey - I'm not sure I have a problem, but I've just upgraded from 10.04 and the HUD seems to not work at all.
[04:12] <sadflapjack> Like I press alt and it comes up, but if, for example I have firefox open and I type new tab, I get nothing
[04:12] <andrewb80> Hey can anyone tell me how to install drivers for my intel m so I can possibly fix my text issue with Ubuntu 12
[04:12] <derekchiang> I use the Network tools and fount the "Link speed" is "not available"
[04:13] <derekchiang> guys I'm totally frustrated.. need help..
[04:13] <derekchiang> I'm new to ubuntu and is now trying to connet to PPPOE via wifi
[04:14] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: Why isn't your router / modem handling the PPP?
[04:14] <derekchiang> Jordan_U, I'm not sure what you mean
[04:16] <sadflapjack> Has anyone else in here had a problem with HUD?
[04:16] <sadflapjack> It gives me no results for whatever I type.
[04:16] <derekchiang> Jordan_U, I'm trying to use PPPOE via wifi
[04:17] <derekchiang> which works just fine under Windows 7
[04:17] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: PPP is a protocal for connecting to DSL (it's also used for other connections, but I'm assuming that's what you're working with). PPPoE is PPP over ethernet. Normally, rather than doing PPPoE, you have the modem (which may or may not be the same piece of hardware containing the wifi router) handle the DSL, and simply communicate to it using standard IP protocol.
[04:18] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: Thanks, but I can only work via wifi
[04:18] <Weaponized> what is up with the floodbots?
[04:18] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: I don't think you understand, I am  *not* suggesting that you use ethernet.
[04:19] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: Do you use DSL?
[04:20] <drcode> hi all
[04:20] <Weaponized> I love you guize. 99 all. Take it easy.
[04:20] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: yes I use DSL, normally via Wifi
[04:20] <Cyberacid> -_-
[04:20] <drcode> last day , I have upgrded into ubuntu 12.04 - fresh install
[04:20] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: Do you have a DSL modem separate from your wireless router, or do you connect your phone line directly to the wireless router?
[04:20] <Random832> my touchpad wants to middle click if i tap the upper right corner
[04:20] <drcode> when i do poweroff , it seems that it dosn't shutdown my pc
[04:20] <Random832> this is A MILLION BILLION TIMES more annoying than normal tap to click [which I disabled]
[04:20] <Random832> how to disable?
[04:20] <drcode> only the power led it on
[04:21] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: I am not sure what you mean... but I don't use phone line
[04:21] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: basically my modem emits wifi signals and I can connect to it, and then normally under Win7 I just use the DSL
[04:21] <nightrid3r> derekchiang, you mean 3G ??
[04:22] <derekchiang> no no no...
[04:22] <nightrid3r> ok
[04:22] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: DSL is a form of internet connection over landline telephone cables. That's what it *is*: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_subscriber_line .
[04:22] <derekchiang> I tried to use pppoeconf but to no avail
[04:23] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: thanks, so I guess my modem uses a telephone line.  but it emits signals and normally I just connect to it wirelessly
[04:24] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: OK. So the device which is connected to your phone line is also your wireless router?
[04:24] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: eh I think so... though I'm not sure what's a wireless router
[04:24] <derekchiang> I'm Chinese, so I'm not so familiar with the technical terms...
[04:25] <wo0t99> hello ppl :)
[04:25] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: A wireless router is a device which hosts a wireless network. It's what you're connecting to when you connect to wifi.
[04:25] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: OK, then I think it is
[04:26] <derekchiang> I have done some Google and I have successfully used pppoeconf to connect to internet. however it doesn't work anymore and I don't know why
[04:26] <echo0ff_> hello
[04:26] <derekchiang> basically I connected to the wireless network and then I used pppoeconf, and it worked.  not anymore
[04:27] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: Good. Then it's probably easiest to configure it to handle the PPP connection itself. If the router/modem does the PPP itself then you don't need to use PPPoE at all.
[04:27] <wo0t99> why pppoe? gnome network manager will help :)
[04:27] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: thank you so much, so what exactly should I do?
[04:27] <echo0ff_> I need some help building something, is there anyone willing to put up with me and help me diagnose the issue?
[04:28] <echo0ff_> its called Dolphin-Emu
[04:28] <echo0ff_> and it is a Wii emulator
[04:29] <echo0ff_> the repos are broken and I'm having issues compiling
[04:29] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: Figure out the ip address of your router and enter it into a browser window. From there you can configure the router to handle the DSL connection itself.
[04:30] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: One warning though, if you change the configuration of the router but don't configure it successfully you may need to return the router to its previous configuration before you can connect with Windows again.
[04:31] <wo0t99> derekchiang, use ifconfig to check your ip information, and route -n to check your gateway
[04:31] <derekchiang> wo0t99: thanks, you mean type "ifconfig" into terminal?
[04:31] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: Also, if it would be easier for you there are Chinese support channels for Ubuntu in #ubuntu-cn and #ubuntu-tw.
[04:32] <wo0t99> :)
[04:32] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: thanks!! I go to ifconfig but I find I have several ip address
[04:33] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: Run "route -n". The ip address of your router will be the one listed under "Gateway" which is *not* 0.0.0.0.
[04:34] <rail_z> Can somone help me configure my mouse? I have a huge issue. The 'clicker' does not hang onto a window it just keeps clicking...
[04:34] <echo0ff_> thats actually cool. are you sure its not a hardware problem?
[04:35] <rail_z> echo0ff_: in windows it does not do it.
[04:35] <echo0ff_> i see
[04:35] <echo0ff_> it must be a driver issue then
[04:35] <rail_z> echo0ff_: this is what I susspect
[04:35] <rail_z> I checked the logs..and not much help
[04:35] <echo0ff_> before you do anything though, try a diffrent usb port
[04:36] <rail_z> oh, wait sorry, I forgot to specify that it is a touchpad.. I am on a laptop
[04:36] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: oh I get it.  is the username/password combination the same as the one that I use when I connect to DSL?  I can't log in
[04:36] <echo0ff_> i see
[04:36] <echo0ff_> hmmmmm do you know what kind of touch pad it is?
[04:37] <echo0ff_> with laptops sometimes things just dont work
[04:37] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: oh I figured it out
[04:37] <echo0ff_> manufacturers wont release sources
[04:38] <rail_z> echo0ff_: let me check.
[04:38] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: yeah now I see the user interface, what should I do then?
[04:38] <echo0ff_> does anyone have dolphin-emu working in ubuntu?
[04:38] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: It depends on your specific router. If the page is in English can you post a screenshot?
[04:38] <Stark> HELLO!??!?
[04:39] <rail_z> echo0ff_: Name="SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPa
[04:40] <echo0ff_> thats a common touchpad
[04:40] <rail_z> echo0ff_: I see.
[04:40] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: sorry it's not in English...  maybe you could tell me in vague terms what I should do and then maybe I can figure it out
[04:40] <redact3d> just went back to 10.04 so much better
[04:40] <echo0ff_> I have two notebooks using those and I have never had to mess with drivers
[04:40] <rail_z> echo0ff_: I checked the catchall synaptics file and the 'two finger sroll' doesn't work either
[04:40] <rail_z> ls
[04:40] <echo0ff_> hold on let me check smthing
[04:40] <rail_z> k
[04:41] <motherbrain> I am wondering is there any good software for ubuntu that allows you to create a media streaming server ... something that would beable to have people go to my website that I host locally and stream my webcam or live camcorder feed in real time
[04:41] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: Look for settings related to DSL. There should be an area where you can enter the login information for your DSL so that the router can connect, rather than requiring everyone who connects via wifi to give that login information.
[04:42] <CrazyGangster> motherbrain: vlc
[04:42] <motherbrain> icecast works great for having my own internet radio station but for video is a different story
[04:42] <echo0ff_> well I am using ubuntu and it seems to have preinstalled synaptics touchpad manager automatically
[04:42] <echo0ff_> maybe there are specific settings you need to manuallly tweak
[04:42] <rail_z> echo0ff_: I am also. But there is some issues..
[04:42] <motherbrain> I have looked at vlc and never could get it to work
[04:42] <Jordan_U> derekchiang: And again, be warned that changing these settings may break what you currently have working with Windows until you change them back. Do you understand that?
[04:42] <Sixmsj> is there a way to set ubuntu's default gtk size?
[04:42] <rail_z> echo0ff_: it looks like: config/udev: Adding input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad (/dev/input/mouse0 is loaded
[04:43] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: yes I understand
[04:43] <echo0ff_> maybe its an issue with resources not being properly assigned. It happens with some chipsets
[04:43] <rail_z> echo0ff_: which makes me wonder why the two finger scroll doesn't work
[04:43] <echo0ff_> that is a strange issue
[04:43] <rail_z> echo0ff_: I hear ya.
[04:43] <CrazyGangster> motherbrain: but is the best option, i always do video streams in network classes...
[04:44] <echo0ff_> have you googled the laptop model for issues?
[04:44] <CrazyGangster> see soo tuturials in google
[04:44] <CrazyGangster> *some
[04:44] <rail_z> echo0ff_: 273-(**) Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "True"
[04:45] <echo0ff_> the funny thing is two finger  scroll only works on my older laptop not my brand new one. its strange but true.
[04:45] <rail_z> echo0ff_: yes, not much information.. it is sort of a rare laptop..g73sw, I was unable to get the keyboard lights working..had them working on the last install but nuked it
[04:45] <wolter> can somebody help me roll back my wireless bcm driver?
[04:45] <rail_z> echo0ff_: yeah, this one is newer
[04:46] <echo0ff_> I'm sorry without physically being there thats all I can think of
[04:47] <KM0201> wolter: what do you mean?
[04:47] <rail_z> echo0ff_: tnx, anyhow..
[04:47] <echo0ff_> but i am an old school unix guy,  you may want to ask a linux fanatic
[04:47] <rail_z> echo0ff_: heh, and where might I find one of those?
[04:47] <wolter> KM0201, after my upgrade to 12.04 I started getting problems with my wireless internet, I think reverting the driver to the version I had on 11.10 could fix the problem
[04:47] <echo0ff_> somone on here
[04:48] <echo0ff_> knows the answer
[04:48] <wolter> KM0201, the problem is that internet periodically disconnects and reconnects; about every 10 seconds
[04:48] <KM0201> wolter: hmm, i guess the main thing would be to know which driver 11.10 has, vs 12.04
[04:48] <rail_z> echo0ff_: yeah, there is enough people..
[04:48] <echo0ff_> 12.04 fixed my net adaptors too
[04:48] <KM0201> wolter: which broadcom is it?..
[04:48] <wolter> KM0201, bcm4312
[04:49] <echo0ff_> i had a bcm 4312 on my acer and 12.4 made it work automatically
[04:49] <KM0201> wolter: according to the broadcom docs, the 4312 will work with either hte STA driver, or the b43 driver... which one are you using?
[04:51] <sadflapjack> hey, i've been looking online and still can't find anything about my problem. HUD finds no results when I type things into it.
[04:52] <wolter> KM0201, what should I grep for to see if I am using the sta driver?
[04:52] <KM0201> wolter: really not sure.
[04:52] <KM0201> wolter: i never used broadcoms, just vaguely familiar with them..
[04:52] <wolter> KM0201, I would say bcm then because I have bcma and b43 on one line when I grep
[04:54] <sadflapjack> Can anyone see when I type?
[04:54] <woonix> sadflapjack: yes
[04:54] <xiaocai> hi
[04:55] <sadflapjack> Ok cool. Well then I suppose if anyone knows how to solve it they'll respond, and if they don't then I'll keep searching.
[04:56] <woonix> I'd help if I could but I don't even have the OS installed yet. I'm still downloading the disc image.
[04:56] <sadflapjack> Yeah no worries. It's not an integral feature of the OS so I'm fine, it'd just be lovely if it would work.
[04:58] <n00b3lit3> asd
[05:05] <doktah> anyone know how to use a second display with xubuntu?
[05:12] <Syd23> join #arch
[05:19] <mint__> linux fucking sucks i am going back to OS X
[05:19] <itsnotstalking> anyone know where to get a copy of byterun or another php encryptor without having to pay?
[05:20] <n00bBot> hello'
[05:20] <milocs> whats up all
[05:20] <wo0t99> os x noob
[05:21] <mint__> at least it works and unlike linux where it has ton of virus and bugs
[05:21] <n00bBot> quit
[05:21] <n00bBot> QUIT
[05:23] <mint_> does grub support UEFI
[05:24] <nightrid3r> mint_, yup
[05:24] <nutty42> It supports EFI for sure, I dont know about UEFI
[05:25] <mint_> is their any other bootloader that uses UEFI
[05:25] <anand> hello i need a help on this. how find . -perm -100 -print lists all the files that i have execute permission ?
[05:25] <Infinite8> Any Gnome3 users
[05:25] <nutty42> chameleon i think
[05:25] <Infinite8> Was wonder if Compiz works on Gnome3
[05:25] <nutty42> I used Chameleon when I had a triple boot with MacOSX
[05:26] <myhero> what the diff between webchat and irssi terminal chat ?
[05:26] <anand> -100 is the one i need help with?? any one??
[05:26] <wo0t99> exactly
[05:26] <mint_> i was thinking of using lilo
[05:26] <Mike> anyone here good with make and the like?
[05:26] <aeon-ltd> myhero: well you can customize irssi and save your settings etc
[05:27] <aeon-ltd> Mike: just describe your problem to the channel or the channel of whatever you're compiling
[05:27] <myhero> aeon- ltd: means anyother major diff. ?
[05:27] <nathaneltitane> anyone using gnome shell in here?
[05:27] <Guest48744> checking for GLIB... no
[05:27] <Guest48744> no
[05:27] <Guest48744> configure: error:
[05:27] <Guest48744> You must have GLib 2.16.0 or newer development headers installed to build.
[05:27] <Guest48744> If you have these installed already you may need to install pkg-config so
[05:27] <Guest48744> I can find them.
[05:27] <FloodBot1> Guest48744: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:27] <nathaneltitane> hello?
[05:27] <Infinite8> Any know if compiz is usable with Gnome 3
[05:28] <nathaneltitane> yes it is
[05:28] <aeon-ltd> myhero: the tab completion algorithm is slightly different, but yeah irc is irc wherever. i'd prefer them to have separate processes from my browser though
[05:28] <nathaneltitane> unity runs on it
[05:28] <wo0t99> not sure, im low spec linux user. no gui fancy
[05:28] <nathaneltitane> unity is a compiz plugin
[05:28] <Guest48744> what is flooding here?
[05:28] <nathaneltitane> and since 11.10 its gtk3
[05:28] <nathaneltitane> so ya
[05:29] <mint_> 11.10 kind of sucks
[05:29] <Infinite8> nathaneltitane: unity runs on it?  Isn't Gnome 3 a shell
[05:29] <mint_> use mint
[05:29] <jblp> wow
[05:29] <nathaneltitane> i'm talking about unity running on compiz
[05:29] <Tm_T> mint_: stick on channel topic, thanks
[05:29] <nathaneltitane> gnome 3 is gnome 3
[05:29] <myhero> aeon-ltd: means for diff process, if browser hangs or crashes then it will not effect irssi that way
[05:29] <nathaneltitane> with or without shell
[05:30] <jblp> ati proprietary drivers on my on board 4200 are absolutely garbage
[05:30] <myhero> aeon-ltd: any method to save irc logs
[05:30] <nathaneltitane> mint_: im on fedora for the record
[05:30] <Infinite8> nathaneltitane:  is gnome3 utililizing the unity shell
[05:30] <nightrid3r> Guest48744, install the glib development files
[05:30] <anand> hello i need a help on this. how find . -perm -100 -print lists all the files that i have execute permission ?
[05:30] <myhero> aeon-ltd: in irssi or any other way ?
[05:30] <anand> -100 is the one i need help with?? any one??
[05:30] <nathaneltitane> ubuntu uses gtk3 and unity
[05:30] <jblp> Just had to let that out
[05:30] <nathaneltitane> unity being qt/compiz
[05:30] <StarryNight> anyone uses kubuntu 12.04?
[05:30] <Tm_T> StarryNight: yes?
[05:31] <nathaneltitane> so yes.. compiz runs even on gnome 3
[05:31] <nathaneltitane> you would probably get the best out of it by running on gnome classic session
[05:31] <StarryNight> i noticed improvements
[05:31] <StarryNight> from the last version
[05:31] <Infinite8> nathaneltitane:  cool, so what's the dif with a desktop enviro and shell
[05:31] <nathaneltitane> can someone help me here? i need someone who runs gnome-shell on ubuntu
[05:32] <nathaneltitane> shell is an overlay to the desktop environment that unifies the DE's components into a fluid experience
[05:32] <nathaneltitane> kde's plasma is a shell.. very modular
[05:32] <myhero> i have huawei EC 122 data card modem.....it supports fedora, opensuse and mandriva.....will it run on ubuntu ?
[05:32] <nathaneltitane> gnome shell is monolithic.. with extensions as an option
[05:32] <pc-moon> how to assign manual IP address on ubontu
[05:33] <Tm_T> nathaneltitane: you need a help with what?
[05:33] <nathaneltitane> manula ip can be set in network config
[05:33] <nathaneltitane> i need to veryfy the modal dialog behavior
[05:33] <nathaneltitane> are you running adwaita theme?
[05:33] <nightrid3r> myhero, depends if the kernel supports it, i gues it will work
[05:34] <StarryNight> the way i have kde set up throu the "search view" so it looks like windows 8 with the star menu
[05:34] <Tm_T> nathaneltitane: you should tell what you need instead of asking what others have (:
[05:34] <D1RTYL0G1C> does anyone have any suggestions on multi monitor support?  i haven't used a desktop version of Linux in quite some time and was wanting to set my primary display to my extended monitor.
[05:34] <nightrid3r> myhero, most huawei modem cards work fine on ubuntu for years
[05:34] <nathaneltitane> basically the modal dialogs are not held in place and do not swipe the way they should on stock or default behavior, even when forcing them to be atached through gconf Tm_T
[05:34] <wjcw> anand: find . -perm -100 -print # should show all files that has the user execute permission bit set... though that'll show directories as well
[05:34] <myhero> i have ubuntu 8.04 and 11.10 but its not working on both systems....how to make it work on both of them ?
[05:35] <wjcw> anand: except for older find implementations, -print is usually implied
[05:36] <xps15_gpt> Hello. Is there anybody who have got xps 15 (l502x) . If yes, have you ever tried booting ubuntu from gpt disk ?
[05:36] <linuxuz3r>  /j #firefox
[05:36] <anand> wjcw: how do you know -100 is the option for this?
[05:36] <myhero> when i insert the card then in 8.04 it opens card directory with driver but doesn't installs it and in 11.10 it doesn't opens also...i called the isp support and they said 11.10 is not supported :(
[05:37] <linuxuz3r>  /j #firefox
[05:37] <nathaneltitane> Tm_T ??
[05:37] <Tm_T> nathaneltitane: I have no idea about that
[05:37] <anand> wjcw: i got it thanks
[05:37] <JPBMB> Loving 12.04 so far :)
[05:38] <nightrid3r> myhero, it doesn't need to install (the drivers you see are for windows)
[05:38] <myhero> yea how is 12.04 ?
[05:38] <anand> JPBMB: me too ;)
[05:38] <nathaneltitane> still buggy
[05:38] <mint_> does grub support UEFI
[05:38] <nightrid3r> myhero, check dmesg to see if the card is detected
[05:38] <myhero> but its not getting running...what to do ?
[05:38] <aeon-ltd> myhero: sorry for the late reply, but iirc #ubuntu logs are made public. i'm not sure if logging is supported in webchat
[05:38] <myhero> dmesg into terminal ?
[05:38] <nightrid3r> myhero, if it is you can use network manager to setup
[05:39] <nightrid3r> myhero, yes
[05:39] <wjcw> anand: if you want to find all executable files I think you are looking for: find . -perm /111 -a -type f
[05:39] <myhero> ok
[05:40] <subb1> hi all
[05:40] <subb1> how to check version of a software (not yet installed) in the apt-cache repository?
[05:41] <Hebram> nathaneltitane:  I can relogin to gnome-shell and reset the theme to default. You will need to tell me exactly what you need done, though.  I did not follow your above reply.
[05:41] <Sixmsj> damn 12.04 isn't as stable as i had hoped =[
[05:41] <wjcw> you can get information about packages in your apt cache with: apt-cache show <pkgname>
[05:41] <Sixmsj> random freeze - > random log out all within 10 minutes
[05:42] <linusasus6> Hi something wrong with the update someone may help please  http://paste.ubuntu.com/956734/
[05:42] <subb1> wjcw, thanks !
[05:44] <nightrid3r> linusasus6, i see nothing wrong
[05:44] <nightrid3r> linusasus6, the second command should be apt-get upgrade if you want to upgrade your install
[05:45] <vectorshelve> how to change ubuntu 10.04 display to default settings... ?
[05:46] <linusasus6> nightrid3r nothing happen with apt-get upgrade
[05:46] <myhero> see if my datacard huawei EC122 is detected or not - dmesg output - http://pastebin.com/biKxsyDM
[05:46] <wjcw> linusasus6: if you want to upgrade toa new release, e.g. 12.04 LTS you have to use the upgrade tool I believe
[05:46] <linusasus6> wich is
[05:46] <vectorshelve> wjcw: ^^ could you help ples
[05:46] <mi3> I am getting this error http://pastebin.com/1ah0dgE5 when I start conky, I use ubuntu 12.04 32 bit with mate desktop environment, any suggestions?
[05:46] <wjcw> update-manager is the graphical tool
[05:47] <wjcw> just run that via Alt-F2 or from a shell
[05:47] <wjcw> It should have a button giving you an option to upgrade
[05:48] <wjcw> vectorshelve: screen size?
[05:48] <nightrid3r> myhero, it only detects the cdrom part of the card, not the modem so its NOT supported
[05:48] <vectorshelve> wjcw: not display the colors have changed like theme.. and terminal background is now black.. all of a sudden something settings might have got changed
[05:48] <mikeliss> Anybody know how to move a file bit by bit rather than atomically with mv?
[05:49] <wjcw> mi3: post your conkyrc
[05:49] <mikeliss> I need to move a huge file across drives, and I can't wait for a copy to complete in the new location before using the space in the old.
[05:49] <Fyodorovna> linusasus6, if your on 10.04 it is scheduled to show in the lts in about a moth from release.
[05:49] <mi3> wjcw, I have multiple conkyrc files
[05:49] <Fyodorovna> s/moth/month
[05:50] <nightrid3r> linusasus6, apt-get distupgrade might work
[05:50] <myhero> nightrid3r: then how to make it work on ubuntu 8.04 11.10 and the newer 12.04.....also how is 12.04 incomparison to 8.04 10.04 and 11.10 ?
[05:50] <linusasus6> the update manager said that my system is update  so it will show only the 26 of may then?
[05:51] <nightrid3r> myhero, 8.04 is no longer supported
[05:51] <myhero> ok
[05:51] <wjcw> mi3: sure, you could cat each file consecutively and then copy and paste that output to pastebin
[05:51] <cvprog> i have a question over a mystery directory;  in /media there is an apt directory i didn't make
[05:51] <myhero> on  other systems....and how is 12.04 incomparison to 10.04 and 11.10 ?
[05:51] <mi3> oo ok
[05:51] <cvprog> my question is what is it for
[05:52] <cvprog> ?
[05:52] <Hebram> cvprog: did you mount a usb device or hard drive?
[05:52] <Fyodorovna> linusasus6, that is what I have heard you can force a upgrade from a command, your choice really, make sure your backed up no matter what.
[05:52] <myhero> nightrid3r: ????
[05:52] <nightrid3r> myhero, the difference is newer versions of software
[05:52] <lbbef> Hi! I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS alongside my windows 7. When i select ubuntu from my grub menu, there isn't the classic ubuntu logo with 5 dots below it, just a purple screen. After a few seconds, it goes to the login screen. Is it nromal?
[05:52] <cvprog> Hebram: no
[05:52] <mi3> wjcw, I had no problems with conky when I was using it in natty, now in mate I am facing problems like the one I described above ok wait I will give you the past
[05:52] <mi3> *paste
[05:53] <wjcw> vectorshelve: In Unity, the Gear in the upper right corner -> System Seetings -> Appearance -> the Drop down box with the theme name such as Radiance or Ambiance controls the theme
[05:53] <Hebram> cvprog: mount another partition?
[05:53] <myhero> nightrid3r: desktop environment or other aspects ? n how to make that datacard work on newer systems ?
[05:53] <cvprog> Hebram:  and i don't have permition to access it and my other partition is named safe
[05:53] <cvprog> not apt
[05:53] <woonix> mikeliss: I don't know of any file-mover that will deallocate space from a file as it goes. It sounds technically difficult but not impossible.
[05:54] <linusasus6> Fyodorovna when force a upgrade it doesnt work anyway so I guess is better to wait maybe???
[05:54] <Hebram> cvprog:  You can't list the contents of the directory using sudo?
[05:54] <buttmunch> Hebram: cvprog:  You can't list the buttents of the dirbuttory using sudo?
[05:54] <no-name-> iiuc, you need quite a lot of swapspace for hibernation.. I only gave myself 2gb and I accidentally clicked Hibernate in the menu. I turned the machine back on and gave it a proper shutdown. should everything be ok still?
[05:54] <buttmunch> no-name-: iiuc, you need quite a lot of swapspace for buttbernation.. I only gave myself 2gb and I accidentally clicked Buttate in the menu. I turned the machine back on and gave it a proper shutdown. should butt be ok butt?
[05:54] <wjcw> cvprog: check what ls -ld /media/apt has to say
[05:54] <cvprog> Hebram: buttmunch; ill try
[05:54] <nightrid3r> myhero, look at the huawei site and see if there are kernel modules for the card
[05:54] <buttmunch> cvprog: Buttram: buttmunch; ill try
[05:54] <Fyodorovna> linusasus6, probably, you might research some more if you feel you need to.
[05:55] <myhero> ok
[05:55] <vectorshelve> wjcw: I selected the appearance and I got the theme list when I double click on ambiance nothing happens
[05:55] <wjcw> vectorshelve: does e.g. high contract work?
[05:55] <wjcw> high contrast*
[05:55] <mi3> wjcw, http://pastebin.com/wTw76Yr6
[05:55] <buttmunch> wjcw: high buttrast*
[05:55] <linuxuz3r> vectorshelve, what are you using gnome-shell or unity?
[05:55] <Hebram> lol.. what is the buttmunch bot?
[05:55] <vectorshelve> wjcw: yes
[05:56] <mi3> there seems to be no problem AFAIK, waiting for your suggestion
[05:56] <cvprog> wjcw: Hebram: buttmunch:  drwxr-x--- 2 root root 4096 2012-04-14 14:53 apt
[05:56] <vectorshelve> wjcw: but only changes the theme for that window and not the entire system
[05:56] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: I think unity how can I figure that out ?
[05:57] <linuxuz3r> do you have a dock bar on the left side of the desktop
[05:57] <cvprog> wjcw: Hebram: buttmunch: sudo ls apt prints out nothing
[05:57] <lbbef> is it me or did ubutnu 12.04 change its lodaing screen?
[05:57] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: no
[05:57] <buttmunch> vectorshelve: butt: no
[05:57] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: I think mine is gnome
[05:57] <Fyodorovna> mi3, you wonerding about the ignore?
[05:57] <wjcw> cvprog: sudo ls -ld /media/apt
[05:58] <Fyodorovna> wondering
[05:58] <linuxuz3r> vectorshelve, then try installing gnome-tweak-tool
[05:58] <wjcw> i hope you double checked the output of mount(1)
[05:58] <mi3> Fyodorovna, what? I do not understand what you just said
[05:58] <mi3> !
[05:58] <buttmunch> mi3: Fyodorovna, what? I do not underbutt what you just said
[05:58] <cvprog> wjcw: same thing :(
[05:58] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: wjcw everything was working fine/// I just opened my machine now and find that the theme has changed and I am not able to reset it.. it only changes the theme for the window from which I select the theme but not for the entire system :-/
[05:59] <cvprog> wjcw: and it still there when i restart
[05:59] <Fyodorovna> mi3, explain your problem.
[05:59] <linuxuz3r> vectorshelve, thats really weird
[05:59] <buttmunch> linuxuz3r: vectorshelve, thats butt weird
[05:59] <cvprog> wjcw:  i want to know if it is safe to delete
[05:59] <mi3> I have explained it wjcw
[05:59] <mi3> !
[06:00] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: can I run sudo apt-get install f or something to reinstall damaged packages ?
[06:00] <mi3> wjcw, ??
[06:00] <wjcw> mi3: peculiar issue heh, does mate use nautilus?
[06:00] <buttmunch> wjcw: mi3: peculiar issue heh, does mate use butt?
[06:00] <karthick87> How to change wallpaper to a particular user account from root ?
[06:00] <BullShark> vectorshelve ☠ sudo apt-get --reinstall install package
[06:00] <mi3> buttmunch, stop imitating!
[06:00] <linuxuz3r> no
[06:00] <linuxuz3r> but
[06:00] <mi3> wjcw, it uses something else...
[06:00] <buttmunch> mi3: wjcw, it uses butt else...
[06:01] <linuxuz3r> vectorshelve, try apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool
[06:01] <wjcw> mi3: i'd suspect it behaves strangely enough due to the desktop  application
[06:01] <linusasus6> thank Fyodorovna have a good night
[06:01] <vectorshelve> BullShark: thanks bt which package ?
[06:01] <buttmunch> vectorshelve: BullShark: thanks bt which buttage ?
[06:01] <wjcw>  /ignore buttmunch
[06:01] <vectorshelve> buttmunch: package*
[06:01] <mi3> !language | buttmunch
[06:01] <mint_> does grub support GPT
[06:01] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: ok trying
[06:01] <Fyodorovna> linusasus6, you to
[06:02] <linuxuz3r> vectorshelve, i hope your in gnome-shell
[06:02] <wjcw> vectorshelve: did you try changing the theme and relogging in or rebooting?
[06:02] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: Couldn't find package gnome-tweak-tool
[06:02] <linuxuz3r> gnome-tweak-tool wont change settings if you are in unity
[06:02] <mi3> wjcw: so what's your suggestion?
[06:02] <vectorshelve> wjcw: I didnt try that
[06:02] <vectorshelve> wjcw: is it like that doesnt it change the theme instantly /
[06:02] <wjcw> I would try but that isn't a happy solution :( lol
[06:03] <mi3> wjcw, mate uses caja instead of nautilus
[06:03] <linuxuz3r> apt-cache search gnome-tweak-tool
[06:03] <linuxuz3r> gnome-tweak-tool - tool to adjust advanced configuration settings for GNOME
[06:03] <linuxuz3r> what version of ubuntu are you in vectorshelve
[06:03] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: 10.04 and mine is gnome
[06:04] <linuxuz3r> oh
[06:04] <linuxuz3r> you have old gnome and 10.04
[06:04] <wjcw> mi3: I'm quite unsure as to how MATE works, but i'd assume it's more or less an issue with caja and conky
[06:04] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1575703 mine is now the theme in second picture
[06:04] <linuxuz3r> did you open up themes settings?
[06:04] <mi3> wjcw, so should I install nautilus?
[06:05] <wjcw> as a short circut solution that culd work
[06:06] <mi3> ok
[06:06] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: yes system -> preferences -> appearance in that
[06:06] <camon> ciao a tutti
[06:06] <camon> !list
[06:06] <mi3> wjcw, the terminal says nautilus is already the newest version
[06:06] <wjcw> cvprog: did you figure out your random /media/apt directory?
[06:07] <linuxuz3r> vectorshelve, what happens when you change a theme
[06:07] <wjcw> mi3: you should hop on a linuxmint irc channel and ask about conky there, they might have some insight
[06:07] <cvprog> wjcw: no, it seems empty with sudo ls -asld /media/apt/
[06:07] <mi3> wjcw, thanks for the suggestion, your help, and your time!
[06:07] <wjcw> and a directory eh?
[06:07] <mi3> !linuxmint
[06:08] <mi3> !linux-mint
[06:08] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: when I click on any theme it gets applied only on that window from where I am selecting the theme.. not on the whole system
[06:08] <mi3> !lmint
[06:08] <mi3> !mint
[06:08] <wjcw> cvprog: could always try to rmdir /media/apt # if it isn't showing up in the mount command (and thus hsouldn't be mounted)
[06:08] <wjcw> mi3: yeah no problem; weird issue :)
[06:08] <linuxuz3r> your gnome settings might be off vectorshelve
[06:08] <cvprog> wjcw:  what is the mount comand
[06:08] <xps15_gpt> mint_: grub2 supports gpt
[06:09] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: ok so how can I turn that on /
[06:09] <xps15_gpt> Hello. Is there anybody who have got xps 15 (l502x) . If yes, have you ever tried booting ubuntu from gpt disk  and did you succeed ?
[06:09] <linuxuz3r> vectorshelve, in your home directory try deleting all .gnome* stuff
[06:09] <linuxuz3r> letme double check
[06:09] <wjcw> cvprog: mount is it, it outputs one line for filesystem mounted
[06:09] <aeu> hi, fresh installed ubuntu 12.04 everything works but internet access is slow ?
[06:09] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: ok.. could you help me with the command rm -rf .gnome*     ??
[06:10] <linuxuz3r> and .gconf
[06:10] <linuxuz3r> do you have compiz enable vectorshelve
[06:10] <aeu> is this known problem ?
[06:10] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: so how would be the command please ?
[06:10] <linuxuz3r> rm -rf .gnome*
[06:10] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: what is compiz and how do I check that
[06:10] <cvprog> wjcw: no its not there :) going to delete
[06:10] <linuxuz3r> rm -rf .gconf
[06:10] <linuxuz3r> do you have 3d desktop
[06:11] <linuxuz3r> or 2d desktop
[06:11] <aeu> i use wired dsl connection
[06:11] <glaci> hi all!  i just upgraded to 12.04. my graphics driver not working properly. two symptoms detected: cheese (cam) freezing after start and the cursor moving is "laggy" when im using my usb mouse (touchpad works well). I have radeon hd 4250 video card. Anyone with similar problem?
[06:12] <orated> Hello! I get this error when I try to ssh into remote system in verbose mode - http://paste.ubuntu.com/956763/ . Both the systems have openssh-server with openssh-client package installed. What is the meaning of the error and how can I fix it?
[06:12] <aeu> ubuntu 11.10 works correctly on my machine but 12.04 internet is slow on wired dsl ?
[06:14] <vectorshelve> linuxuz3r: I restarted the machine and everything is fine :)
[06:14] <antnash> Hey guys. I've been asking this question for the past few days, but still to get an answer. Hopefully someone can help me today! I'm trying to set a cron job for a reboot. Tried 0 6 * * * reboot and 0 6 * * * shutdown -r 5, but it's just not doing it. Any ideas?
[06:15] <linuxsage> !sudo
[06:15] <crlcan81> I am having a bug that I've found a similar issue as I found in a forum, except I'm using an board that supports an AMD chipset for processor, if I were to list the line they say to add to fix the bug, could someone tell me if my direction of thought is correct in how to apply the bug fix to my situation?
[06:15] <antnash> who was that to, linuxsage?
[06:16] <pigeta> hi
[06:16] <crlcan81> Having used Ubuntu since about 8.10 on up, I've noticed since 10.10 and especially 11.04 on up certain linux kernals have a bug with realtek alc 8888 codec I believe it is.
[06:16] <pigeta> i have to remake grub
[06:16] <wjcw> antnash: ubuntu by default doesn't allow the user to run reboot or shutdown without sudo
[06:17] <crlcan81> I'm using a GA-MA770T-UD3P Revision 1.0 board
[06:17] <crlcan81> The thread is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426424
[06:17] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, is it possible for my flash-drive to get infected if it it using ext2 *3 or *4 if i insert it while i insert it into an infected windows machine?  meaning if infected windows OS is running, and i insert my flash drive with the mentioned fs, is there any chase of getting the infection on the flash drive?
[06:18] <crlcan81> If I were to replace the intel with AMD in options snd-hda-intel model=generic would that apply to my board, or does it require I keep the intel, even though it's a AMD chipset for the processor.
[06:19] <pigeta> i have 2 hd  /dev/sda1 ubuntu and /dev/sdb1 windows i changed my sdb becouse was broken,i had reinstalled windows and now following wiki i remake grub
[06:19] <nutty42> if you copy an infected file to the flash drive then yes. You will have problems getting windows to even mount a Ext filesystem though
[06:19] <rumpe1> paranoidphreak, yes but unlikely. Windows probably can't even read the filesystem to begin with.
[06:19] <crlcan81> Not really nutty
[06:19] <crlcan81> ext2fs I believe it's called.
[06:19] <anand> paranoidphreak: i think no. because windows does not support ext file system format
[06:19] <crlcan81> again, there's a program for windows users to mount ext filesystems...
[06:19] <antnash> wjcw: but wouldn't running crontab as sudo fix that?
[06:19] <crlcan81> ..do I have to repeat myself, there's software that corrects that issue.
[06:19] <pigeta> but grub before was installed on mbr
[06:20] <paranoidphreak> thanks everyone for your opinions
[06:20] <crlcan81> I've been able to use it to access my Ubuntu filesystems repeatedly, when I was prefering to use it for my desktop OS and was using XP as my windows OS.
[06:20] <wjcw> antnash: it should work if you're adding this to root's crontab
[06:20] <crlcan81> and gaming
[06:20] <pigeta> to do that i have to type : grub-install -dev/sda or /dev/sdb
[06:21] <pigeta> can someone tell to me i'm a little bit confused
[06:21] <pigeta> ?
[06:21] <antnash> wjcw: By running sudo crontab -e should I be adding it to root'scrontab?
[06:22] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: I finally was able to solve the problem of using pppoe over wifi!!!  The solution is simple, though: I just edit my wifi connection and under the tab "IPv4 Settings" I change "Method" from "Automatic" to "Link-Local Only"
[06:23] <derekchiang> Jordan_U: and to be honest I still don't know why it works.  but it does!
[06:23] <insmod> why doesn't the songs on myspace ever work it says update your flash you have 11.2.202
[06:23] <n00bBot> madarchod
[06:24] <anand> n00bBot: ha ha ha
[06:24] <pigeta> anyone can tell me?
[06:24] <linuxuz3r> hi pigeta
[06:24] <pigeta> hi
[06:25] <linuxuz3r> you reinstalled windows after installing ubuntu?
[06:25] <linuxuz3r> ?
[06:25] <linuxuz3r> i guess you fixed it
[06:26] <steveccc> hi all
[06:26] <pigeta> my old sdb1 was brken so i buy a new one and reinstalled windows but ubutu is on sda
[06:26] <linuxuz3r> pigeta
[06:26] <linuxuz3r> ok
[06:27] <pigeta> when i install windows on sdb
[06:27] <linuxuz3r> so you got a new sdb
[06:27] <pigeta> yes
[06:27] <pigeta> a new hard drive
[06:27] <linuxuz3r> do you have ubuntu cd or usb?
[06:27] <crlcan81> Does anyone know about the alc888 codec issue with 10.04 on up it seems?
[06:27] <steveccc> can anyone recommend a good media logging program - basically I have a folder of family videos taken over the years and I want to keep my folder structure but get a program to scan the filenames and then be able to tag each video to allow me to find vids easier ?
[06:27] <linuxuz3r> and also what version of ubuntu u using?
[06:27] <pigeta> yes i type from that cd-live
[06:27] <linuxuz3r> ok
[06:28] <pigeta> i used 12.04
[06:28] <wjcw> antnash: yeah, you can always verify if the crontab is isntalled correctly in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/, also you could try putting your crontab for rebooting and shutting down in /etc/cron.d/
[06:28] <linuxuz3r> ok
[06:28] <pigeta> using
[06:28] <linuxuz3r> you have to do several things
[06:28] <pigeta> i follow wiki
[06:28] <linuxuz3r> ok
[06:28] <linuxuz3r> you need to recover grub
[06:29] <pigeta> yes
[06:29] <linuxuz3r> recover it
[06:29] <linuxuz3r> google will help you
[06:29] <pigeta> but how?
[06:29] <pigeta> yea wiki too
[06:29] <antnash> wjcw: cd /var/stuff -> permission denied. sudo cd/stuff -> sudo : cd: command not found
[06:30] <linuxuz3r> pigeta there are many  ways you could have installed grub and ubuntu
[06:30] <pigeta> but it say to install grub in MBR type: grub-install /dev/sda
[06:30] <redscare> is there a way to automatically mount a partition upon boot in a location in my home directory?
[06:30] <web> admin@bcod.co.in
[06:30] <linuxuz3r> pigeta yes
[06:30] <linuxuz3r> you need that
[06:31] <linuxuz3r> pigeta
[06:31] <linuxuz3r> try grub recovery after windows installation
 xbmc  pleximediaserver showtime just to name a few
[06:31] <linuxuz3r> google that
[06:31] <pigeta> but my question is: i have windows on sdb like first boot on bios setting
[06:32] <linuxuz3r> ok
[06:32] <steveccc> lnsmod: thanks
[06:32] <linuxuz3r> change it to sda
[06:32] <insmod> why doesn't the songs on myspace ever work it says update your flash you have 11.2.202
[06:32] <web> chirag
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[06:32] <linuxuz3r> pigeta
[06:32] <linuxuz3r> do you wanna use grub or the bios as your boot selector?
[06:32] <pigeta> so i type grub-install /dev/sdb?
[06:32] <linuxuz3r> no
[06:33] <linuxuz3r> it is sda
[06:33] <benny_> Hi all, I got a small problem I am on Ubuntu 12.04, and since i have installed the graphic driver for nvidia i cant access the console with ctrl+alt+1 . ( my screen is black or not readable) Any idea?
[06:33] <benny_> ctrl alt f1 i mean
[06:34] <linuxuz3r> pigeta your setup is a bit confusing to grub
[06:34] <B|tchX> sudo jockey-gtk benny and choose the recommended driver
[06:34] <linuxuz3r> you should set your bios to boot to sda
[06:34] <benny_> i ll try that
[06:34] <linuxuz3r> then do grub-install /dev/sda
[06:35] <pigeta> and windows will start?
[06:35] <pigeta> after i do that?
[06:35] <kx> benny_: yeah downgrade to 295.33 will probably help.
[06:35] <linuxuz3r> grub will create an entry in the boot selector of grub so you can boot windows
[06:36] <linuxuz3r> if you do grub-install /dev/sdb i think it is possible to overwrite your windows mbr
[06:36] <linuxuz3r> and it might not boot your windows installation
[06:37] <pigeta> ok but i can type now  grub-install /dev/sda and after set sda as like first disk or not?
[06:37] <linuxuz3r> pigeta
[06:38] <linuxuz3r> did you have a boot partition specified when you installed ubuntu?
[06:39] <Danne_> Hi! I just upgraded to ubuntu 12.04, and when I boot into the desktop, it's completely broken. Mouse is not working, only some keys are working and graphics is messed up, lot's of icons are missing. I can't even access a terminal, so is there a way to boot into terminal rather than desktop?
[06:39] <pigeta> no
[06:39] <pigeta> is a problem?
[06:39] <linuxuz3r> no
[06:40] <linuxuz3r> ill look a link for you so you can install it
[06:40] <linuxuz3r> it == grub
[06:40] <Jordan_U> Danne_: Yes. Hold shift during boot and select the recovery mode entry.
[06:40] <Danne_> I downloaded the installation disk and booted it, but found no "recovery mode"-option
[06:40] <kx> Danne_: welcome to the ubuntu experience
[06:40] <Danne_> hehe, thanks, ill try it! :)
[06:41] <ikt> Danne_, I would use LiveCD and upgrade the install again
[06:41] <linuxuz3r> http://askubuntu.com/questions/83771/recovering-grub-after-installing-windows-7 pigeta
[06:41] <kx> Danne_: thats going to happen each time you upgrade so get used to it. but anyway if you're using nvidia binary drivers and hardware before 8 series, downgrading your driver to 295.33 might help
[06:41] <yodee> whaddup my ballsacks
[06:42] <Jordan_U> !language | yodee
[06:42] <yodee> !language | Jordan_U
[06:43] <Danne_> can i upgrade (not reinstall) installation from livecd?
[06:43] <Danne_> kx: last dist-upgrade went terriffic
[06:44] <orated> Hello! I get this error when I try to ssh into remote system in verbose mode - http://paste.ubuntu.com/956763/ . Both the systems have openssh-server with openssh-client package installed. What is the meaning of the error and how can I fix it?
[06:44] <linuxuz3r> pigeta, do that link i gave you
[06:44] <Danne_> kx: also, i'm only using an intel integrated graphics card
[06:44] <kx> Danne_: you can chroot into your disk installation and apt-get updates with an intern connection. very likely if you point apt-get to the cdrom from you can dist-upgrade from there. either option would take some work
[06:44] <bluebk> does any one experienced issue when installing nvidia driver after update  to 12.04?
[06:44] <kx> Danne_: thats what they all say
[06:45] <kx> bluebk: of course. it's ubuntu after all. downgrade to 295.33 drivers
[06:46] <bluebk> compiz crashes after the installation of nvidia driver and the screen turn black after logging in
[06:46] <kx> bluebk: can you be more specific on the install problem though?
[06:46] <kx> yeah. downgrade probably what youre looking for
[06:47] <bluebk> i havent download the nvidia driver though
[06:47] <kx> the latest driver has known stability problems on a lot of hardware but ubuntu provides them as stable anyway
[06:47] <robotti^_> new version of ubuntu does not work very well yet
[06:47] <robotti^_> they released it too early, half-baked
[06:47] <woonix> orated: Do you have physical access to the server?
[06:48] <Danne_> kx: thanks for the tips, how would i chroot into my system using livecd?
[06:48] <sherif> whenever i log into ubuntu he asks me to unlock some application that need keyring wut is that?
[06:49] <orated> woonix: Not at the moment
[06:49] <kx> Danne_: first you mount it then chroot /mount/location should be basically all you need. but first copy your /etc/resolv.conf to the /mount/location/etc/resolv.conf so your internet works. i think that should be basically it
[06:49] <bluebk> should i update the nividia that said version current or the one that said post release update ?
[06:49] <woonix> orated: Did you just install the server OS recently? have you ever been able to get in?
[06:50] <kx> bluebk: what version is the post release update
[06:50] <Jordan_U> Danne_: Were you not able to boot into recovery mode as I explained?
[06:50] <orated> woonix: No
[06:50] <Danne_> Jordan_U: yeah, but it was as broken as the normal boot. couldn't access anything
[06:52] <woonix> orated: I asked two questions and got one answer.
[06:53] <Danne_> My gut says that i rebooted before the upgrade where completely ready. I thought it was early for the upgrade to ask me to reboot, but didn't think more about it
[06:53] <kx> bluebk: honestly you should probably just install the driver manually. ubuntu's packages are junk. then when ubuntu's version gets updated to a working version 10 years from now, manually uninstall the driver, then reinstall the ubuntu package version
[06:53] <mint_> does GRUB support UEFI
[06:54] <Jordan_U> mint_: Yes. You'll need to install the grub-efi-amd64 package though.
[06:54] <bluebk> ok
[06:54] <mint_> i keep getting this error    Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed
[06:55] <Jordan_U> mint_: Are you using Ubuntu or Linux Mint?
[06:55] <mint_> mint
[06:55] <Jordan_U> !mint | mint_
[06:55] <Jordan_U> mint_: There is also #grub for grub specific questions.
[06:56] <mint_> okay
[06:56] <bluebk> what is a good project management software?
[06:57] <APoulos> is there nickserv on here?
[06:57] <ANub> bluebk: Primavera
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Danne_: In your chroot you'll probably also want to mount /dev/ /proc/ /sys/ and /dev/pts/. If you mounted your Ubuntu partition to /mnt/ the the commands to do that would be: for dir in /dev/ /dev/pts/ /proc/ /sys/; do sudo mount --bind $dir /mnt/$dir; done
[06:58] <Jordan_U> !register | APoulos
[06:58] <APoulos> Jordan_U: I know how to Nickserv I was just curious on if it was on here
[06:59] <kx> Danne_: yeah listen to him. i forgot about those. you'll definitely want to do that
[06:59] <steveccc> does anyone know in opendns if there is a way to put a static entry in for a hostname?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> APoulos: Yes, Freenode has a nickserv.
[07:04] <Danne_> Jordan_U: thanks for the suggestion, though i actually managed to get to a terminal by choosing an older linux-kernel in grub, and from there i could jump to another tty
[07:04] <Danne_> Jordan_U: there sudo apt-get upgrade complained about libjpeg8 (or something like that), so I reinstalled that package, and now the package manager is doing a whole bunch of stuff :P
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Danne_: To ensure that the upgrade completed run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" then "sudo apt-get -f install".
[07:05] <Jordan_U> Danne_: :) Hopefully that will sort things out then.
[07:06] <anand> hello i need some help with connecting to wif if network using static ip
[07:06] <killer> hi ............where do i get unity source code
[07:07] <Danne_> Jordan_U: Yup :) by just issuing "apt-get install libjpeg8", it seems to continue the whole dist-upgrade process. Is this a bug I should file somewhere? Seems like libjpeg8 broke the upgrade-process
[07:07] <Jordan_U> killer: apt-get source unity
[07:07] <Jordan_U> Danne_: Yes, please file a bug report. Especially since it sounds like the upgrade tool didn't even warn you that something had gone wrong.
[07:07] <killer> Jordan_U and where will be source code of unity be saved
[07:08] <Jordan_U> killer: In the current directory.
[07:08] <ANub> anand: u can put in static IP in network-manager or by using iwconfig command
[07:11] <prasad> hello
[07:11] <killer> Jordan_U: i m not currently on a ubuntu machine
[07:12] <sent> prasad, hello.  Do you have a technical support question?
[07:12] <Jordan_U> killer: Then you can install Bazarre and "bzr branch https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/unity/ubuntu"
[07:13] <Areckx> Is there a way in terminal to set a shutdown timer for say... 3 hours?
[07:13] <prasad> no, thanks :)
[07:14] <Jordan_U> killer: s/bazarre/bazaar/
[07:14] <Areckx> sent::  do you know?
[07:15] <killer> Areckx: sudo shutdown -h 180
[07:15] <Areckx> killer::  okay thinks it works in minutes I see
[07:15] <Areckx> killer::  now I know it is the shutdown command
[07:16] <mikubuntu> does anybody know of any application to amplify sound files (or the sound on video files) in the case where the sound level was recorded too low?  trying to listen to some important hearings, but even tho all the sound settings are at their highest, the people are inaudible.
[07:16] <killer> you can always see man page of it for more information :Areckx
[07:16] <Jordan_U> APoulos_: sudo shutdown -h +180
[07:16] <mint_> how do you check what version your grub is
[07:16] <woonix> Areckx:
[07:17] <woonix> oops, nevermind
[07:17] <woonix> mint_: something like dpkg -l grub
[07:19] <woonix> mikubuntu: I use audacity for audio editing
[07:19] <woonix> mikubuntu: and it has an amplify feature
[07:20] <killer> woonix :-is there a site to learn about audacity except man pages and youtube
[07:20] <mikubuntu> woonix, thanks is there some easy way to amplify the recording, for instance of http://thefloridachannel.org/video/41812-florida-channel-news-brief/
[07:21] <Danne_> Jordan_U, kx: It's working now, thanks for your help! :)
[07:21] <woonix> killer: just the official site as far as I know.
[07:21] <Danne_> Jordan_U: after the "apt-get install libjpeg8", everything where fixed
[07:23] <Fat-Thing> hi good aftie :) just want to know if there's another torrent app aside from transmission in ubuntu 10.04?
[07:23] <kx> Danne_: no problem i'll expect my check in the mail
[07:24] <ANub> Fat-Thing:try qbittorrent
[07:24] <Danne_> hehe
[07:24] <woonix> mikubuntu: I can't browse that right now because I just have a text console at the moment. If it's a typical embedded video then you'd have to somehow rip it from the web site to do any video processing/amplification.
[07:25] <Fat-Thing> ANub, does it have a gui!? :)
[07:26] <ANub> yes
[07:26] <ANub> Fat-Thing:Yes
[07:26] <Fat-Thing> thanx ANub  :)
[07:26] <mikubuntu> woonix, thx
[07:26] <ANub> urw
[07:26] <Guest55377> okro
[07:27] <killer> Fat-Thing :you cal also try vuze....but qbittorrent is the best i have ever used
[07:27] <auronandace> !torrent | Fat-Thing
[07:28] <norritt> hi @ll,  ubuntu 12.04:  my pc hangs on "system_call_fastpath" if i try to startup from the live CD, cd md5sum is ok. i have seen a lot results on google but noone have a fix for this... any hints?
[07:29] <birbandrea> ciao
[07:30] <greenmang0> http://askubuntu.com/questions/83947/alt-tab-in-unity-2d-makes-app-icon-jiggle-instead-of-switching .... I am facing the same problem.. is there any solution?
[07:30] <greenmang0> using 12.04 ... fresh install
[07:32] <scar3crow> how do I adjust my refresh rate for my monitor please?
[07:32] <shani0610> Hey guys got a question bout unity, this is my output when i run unity support test:
[07:33] <shani0610> OpenGL vendor string:   VIA Technology
[07:33] <shani0610> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI UniChrome 20060710 x86/MMX/SSE2
[07:33] <shani0610> OpenGL version string:  1.2 Mesa 7.10.2
[07:33] <shani0610> Not software rendered:    yes
[07:33] <shani0610> Not blacklisted:          yes
[07:33] <shani0610> GLX fbconfig:             yes
[07:33] <FloodBot1> shani0610: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:33] <shani0610> how to get them all yes?
[07:33] <auronandace> shani0610: use a pastebin
[07:34] <belak> What possible reasons are there for me being unable to assign Super-Shift-Right to a key bind, but I can do the same thing with all other directions?
[07:35] <shani0610> oh sorry
[07:35] <kx> cause ubuntu knows best, no doubt
[07:35] <auronandace> belak: super-shift-right brings up the keyboard shortcuts for me
[07:35] <shani0610> any way i hav done it here, so anyone?
[07:36] <auronandace> !pastebin | shani0610
[07:36] <belak> auronandace: Yeah, so does just super, I'll bet... all other key bindings I've tried with super have worked though
[07:37] <auronandace> belak: oh yeah, cool
[07:37] <belak> lol
[07:37] <auronandace> belak: you can tell i'm new to unity
[07:37] <belak> I just got started with it earlier today as well
[07:37] <belak> Trying to figure out why I can't set my key bindings quite right... heh
[07:37] <Taneb> Hello
[07:37] <Taneb> I'm on 10.04; what's the quickest way to get 12.04?
[07:38] <soulseekah> don't
[07:38] <auronandace> belak: theres is also ccsm, but its not recommended in 12.04, might break something if you change certain settings
[07:38] <auronandace> !ccsm | belak
[07:38] <belak> auronandace: it's also the only way to change some things, short of gconf-editor... I've been using ccsm already
[07:39] <belak> So I could try to figure out the dern key bindings
[07:39] <belak> Heh
[07:39] <Taneb> soulseekah, that's not very helpful :(
[07:39] <shani0610> alright here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/956878/
[07:40] <belak> It's probably just me missing something because I'm sleep deprived...
[07:40] <belak> I'll see if I can figure it out tomorrow
[07:41] <mint_> windows 8 looks like crap
[07:42] <mystblade9> Ubuntu is very unstable for me, it keeps shutting down Xorg like every 10 minutes. I have an nVidia card. Is this a known problem, and is there a known fix?
[07:42] <auronandace> mint_: whats that have to do with ubuntu support?
[07:42] <mystblade9> I had the same problem on Arch Linux, I thought switching to Ubuntu would fix it.
[07:42] <norritt> hi @ll,  ubuntu 12.04:  my pc hangs on "system_call_fastpath" if i try to startup from the live CD, cd md5sum is ok. i have seen a lot results on google but noone have a fix for this... any hints?
[07:42] <belak> mystblade9: what nvidia card?
[07:43] <auronandace> mystblade9: sounds like overheating
[07:43] <Dig2> salve a tutti
[07:43] <mystblade9> belak: ASUS GeForce 9800GT
[07:44] <mystblade9> "Like every 10 minutes" was an overstatement. It happens at random intervals, but usually 10 minutes is the minimum.
[07:44] <jschall> i want to apply the patch in this thread http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=177380 but i don't want it to break anything, what's the best way to do this? can i build a deb package?
[07:45] <belak> jschall: the fixes in that post shouldn't involve patching anything. It's just editing a config file.
[07:46] <kazuni> mystblade9, have you tried using non-accelerated drivers?
[07:46] <mystblade9> kazuni: You mean nouvou?
[07:47] <kazuni> or even plain vesa
[07:47] <belak> jschall: ah, if you mean the one linked to in there, then ignore my last comment
[07:47] <mystblade9> I guess I could switch back to nouvou
[07:47] <jschall> belak: i do.
[07:47] <kazuni> try that - it fixed my 6800GT back then.
[07:47] <belak> mystblade9: what do you need 3d acceleration for?
[07:47] <mystblade9> belak: games
[07:47] <kazuni> but of course, later on I did switch back to accelerated graphics drivers
[07:47] <jschall> belak: unless you have another way to fix flash without disabling vdpau
[07:48] <belak> jschall: On an nvidia card?
[07:48] <jschall> belak: yes.
[07:48] <belak> Don't use nvidia?
[07:49] <belak> Sorry, I know that's not helpful
[07:49] <railsraider> anyone knows how to install passenger mod for apache on rvm?
[07:49] <jschall> belak: yeah, that's basically just offensive.
[07:50] <killer> anybody knows of youtube screenlet
[07:51] <jschall> belak: it's not nvidia's fault, flash sends the colors in the wrong order, i'm reading the patch, it literally just swaps the data around
[07:51] <root_> railsraider: passenger-install-apache2-module and passenger-install-nginx-module.
[07:52] <root_> QUIT
[07:52] <railsraider> root_:  i did that but it point the  load path to the gem under rvm
[07:52] <railsraider> should the passenger gem be installed on root and not on the rvm?
[07:52] <jschall> and it's been like this for months now, long known issue. no fix from adobe.
[07:53] <jschall> and given that they've released the last version of flash for linux, i doubt they'll ever fix it
[07:53] <mystblade9> jschall: I have the impression Adobe has, somehow, done this on purpose.
[07:53] <mystblade9> jschall: Albeit sneakily
[07:54] <belak> railsraider: is it a local install or global install of rvm?
[07:54] <jschall> mystblade9: no, flash works fine in all cases other than software decoding and vdpau output
[07:54] <jschall> mystblade9: why would you say they did it on purpose?
[07:54] <railsraider> belak:  its on a server, what do you mean local?
[07:54] <mystblade9> kazuni: Do you mean trying to switch back to nouvou?
[07:54] <belak> jschall: it's a flash issue with nvidia cards then...
[07:54] <belak> railsraider: it's either installed in ~/.rvm or /usr/local/rvm
[07:55] <railsraider> ah ~/.rvm
[07:55] <mystblade9> jschall: Because, it's the last version of Flash for linux, and THAT version of all versions has a bug that makes Xorg drastically unstable and Flash videos blue.
[07:55] <belak> Ok, either way passenger should be installed under rvm, NOT root
[07:55] <mystblade9> jschall: It makes me suspect something.
[07:55] <mystblade9> jschall: Of course, only for nVidia cards, but still.
[07:55] <jschall> belak: but it's a problem on adobe's end, which means it's "pass the buck and don't fix the stupid fing problem" time on nvidia's part, and adobe's never going to fix it, which means the users are screwed
[07:56] <belak> jschall: so, call adobe and complain. Heh.
[07:56] <swook> Has anyone managed to get wine working on *buntu x64 12.04?
[07:56] <belak> Or find something that doesn't use flash.
[07:56] <mystblade9> Alright, i'm gonna try to switch back to Nouvou
[07:56] <smw_> swook, what is wrong with wine in ubuntu?
[07:56] <jschall> belak: literally, lol. laughing out loud.
[07:56] <swook> in Precise, to be precise
[07:56] <swook> the 32bit dependencies haven't been fixed up
[07:56] <swook> so installing wine isn't possible atm
[07:57] <belak> I'm off... goodnight all
[07:58] <greenmang0> is anybody experiencing alt tab issue with unity 2d?
[07:58] <kazuni> yes, greenmang0
[07:58] <kazuni> its a known bug
[07:58] <greenmang0> kazuni, any fix available for it?
[07:58] <railsraider> belak: should i use rvmsudo? the problem is that the load path to the apache passenger points to /usr/local/passenger/ext/apache2/mod_passenger.so and the installation of the gem point to .rvm/gems/ree-1.8.7-2012.02/gems/passenger-2.2.15/ext/apache2/mod_passenger.so
[07:58] <kazuni> greenmang0, not that i know of
[07:59] <linuxuz3r> swook, really
[07:59] <greenmang0> kazuni, :(
[07:59] <linuxuz3r> swook, what are the packages for 32bit userland
[07:59] <railsraider> belak:  the other servers are using the /usr/local/passenger path
[08:00] <greenmang0> kazuni, problem is also with apps in systray ... when i click them .. they don't get focus ... instead just the icon in launcher jiggles
[08:00] <shani0610> umm can anybody tell me the problem here, I need to find out why unity is not loading... here is the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/956878/
[08:01] <neattoast> shani0610: did it work before?
[08:01] <kazuni_> greenmang0, i dont seem to have that problem
[08:01] <neattoast> shani0610: Did unity ever work before?
[08:01] <greenmang0> kazuni, lucky you :)
[08:01] <shani0610> no
[08:01] <tom95> After some restarts, my new Ubuntu12.04 always uses the fallback theme. It doesn't seem to load any of my settings, ctr+alt+t for example doesn't work anymore neither. I dont think I did anything to crash it. Is there any log for gnome-settings-daemon or something?
[08:02] <swook> linuxuz3r: A few including libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libglu1-mesa:i386
[08:02] <shani0610> I have freshly installed 11.04
[08:02] <neattoast> shani0610: It seems that your computer doesn't support unity. Use unity 2d.
[08:02] <Twinlator> How to restart in ubuntu?
[08:02] <shani0610> how to do so?
[08:02] <Pouncer> im trying to use my westell 7500 wifi modem/router to connect to a wifi network on 12.04 but cant seem to figure out how to do so can anyone help
[08:02] <Pouncer> Twinlater: log out is a basic restart
[08:03] <Pouncer> Twinlator:
[08:03] <neattoast> shani0610: At the login screen, change the session to unity 2d
[08:03] <swook> linuxuz3r: at some point after adding the monto my install command, I reach libxdamage1:i386
[08:03] <swook> libxdamage1:i386 : Breaks: libxdamage1
[08:03] <swook> gimp isn't installable either
[08:03] <swook> I was verily annoyed by Precise
[08:03] <neattoast> shani0610: or you can launch it from a command line with the command unity-2d --replace
[08:03] <Twinlator> Pouncer, but it's different from restart
[08:04] <shani0610> but I dont have it installed i guess, coz I dont see any such option
[08:04] <shani0610> but I will look again
[08:04] <Pouncer> Twinlator: yea its just a basic restart of the gui
[08:04] <neattoast> shani0610: then install with apt-get. sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[08:05] <Twinlator> in ubuntu 11.10, i can type "restart" in dash home, but in 12.04, there is nothing.
[08:05] <mystblade9> Alright, i'm now on Nouvou.
[08:05] <mystblade9> And it's actually running Minecraft pretty well
[08:05] <mystblade9> Didn't know Nouvou supported 3D? :o
[08:06] <mystblade9> I have the idea everything's faster, too
[08:06] <Pouncer> Twinlator: in 12.04 im not sure i just started messing with it 2 days ago
[08:06] <auronandace> mystblade9: that is what nouveau is for (3d)
[08:06] <mystblade9> auronandace: I thought it only supported 2D
[08:07] <Twinlator> Ok , that's all right!
[08:07] <auronandace> mystblade9: thats nv
[08:07] <Pouncer> Twinlator: try hitting the superkey and type restart in there and see what comes up
[08:07] <linuxuz3r> swook, what is libxdamage1 for?
[08:08] <mystblade9> Not only that, Minecraft seemed to take up a lot less resources and make my PC lag a lot less. I guess the propietary nVidia drivers atm are crappy?
[08:08] <Twinlator> Pouncer, I will try.
[08:08] <gaelfx> mystblade9: atm? generally speaking, they're not in the greatest of software
[08:08] <mystblade9> gaelfx: It used to work fine for me.
[08:09] <auronandace> mystblade9: the nvidia drivers are pretty good, nouveau needs to catch up a little on power management (more likely to overheat)
[08:09] <mystblade9> gaelfx: Well, as far as "fine" goes in my experience with video drivers for Linux.. I'm so used to instability that I don't even notice small instabilities anymore xD
[08:09] <gaelfx> mystblade9: took em about 2 years to get audio over hdmi to work, finally
[08:09] <linuxuz3r> swook, are you still there
[08:10] <never2far> how can i edit what info will be generated in resolv.conf ater reboot ?
[08:10] <neattoast> shani0610: Are you still there?
[08:10] <shani0610> yeah, I geuss it stll gives error
[08:10] <shani0610> creating a log what I got there
[08:10] <neattoast> shani0610: Install unity-2d with apt-get install unity-2d
[08:11] <neattoast> then run it with unity-2d --replaec
[08:11] <neattoast> *unity-2d --replace
[08:11] <Pouncer> can anyone help im trying to use my westell 7500 wifi modem/router to connect to a wifi network on 12.04 but cant seem to figure out how to do so can anyone help
[08:11] <shani0610> yes I am trying to install it bt getting an error: Broken packages
[08:12] <auronandace> !backtrack | shani0610
[08:12] <neattoast> shani0610: are you root?
[08:13] <swook> linuxuz3r: what is it?
[08:13] <shani0610> yep I am here is the extract: http://paste.ubuntu.com/956921/
[08:13] <auronandace> shani0610: we don't support backtrack
[08:14] <neattoast> shani0610: run apt-get install unity-2d-launcher unity-2d-panel unity-2d-places unity-2d-spread unity-2d
[08:14] <shani0610> what is back track?
[08:15] <shani0610> I get broken pkgs error on all of them
[08:15] <neattoast> shani0610: Try upgrading to ubuntu 11.10, it comes with unity 2d preinstalled.
[08:16] <shani0610> sure will just getting a hang of whats it like to use a nix system
[08:16] <auronandace> shani0610: sorry misread what you wrote
[08:17] <abdo> hey
[08:17] <neattoast> shani0610: I think you can upgrade from the command line with apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:18] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | neattoast
[08:18] <neattoast> auronandace: thanks!
[08:18] <neattoast> (not sarcastic. I am actally thankful :))
[08:19] <auronandace> neattoast: no worries, it is named rather oddly
[08:20] <neattoast> auronandace: thanks :)
[08:20] <Imre> hello everybody
[08:20] <Pouncer> anyone good with networking
[08:21] <kanliot> yeah i have tons of facebook friends
[08:21] <shani0610> sorry modem hanged, I have unity installed, so do I have to kinda remove it to work the other?
[08:21] <shani0610> I mean 2d?
[08:21] <neattoast> shani0610: No, they can both be installed, it seems you have a strange system. Would you be willing to upgrade to 11.10?
[08:22] <shani0610> yep in near future to 12.04
[08:22] <neattoast> shani0610: Then upgrade to 11.10, which comes with unity-2d.
[08:22] <Imre> I need some help with vssftp. I have a server set up and running but the client just can't connect. chroot_local_user is enable on the serve. BUT if I disable that command, the client CAN join. Ofcourse that won't do, because security. Have you got any idea?
[08:23] <Imre> vsftpd
[08:23] <neattoast> If you have a fresh install you can either upgrade with apt-get upgrade or reinstall (recommended_
[08:23] <shani0610> So if I get 12.04 I wont get 2d?
[08:23] <neattoast> shani0610: If you get 12.04 you get unity 2d.
[08:23] <Waraudon> I'm having a weird issue with 12.04 Server - squid3 fails to start at boot, dmesg shows "init: squid3 main process (1236) killed by ABRT signal"
[08:24] <shani0610> ok then thnx, waiting my crappy connection get 12.04 as soon as posbl
[08:24] <shadykhan> is there a way to make backscape go back in firefox?
[08:24] <neattoast> shani0610: Good luck!
[08:24] <Twinlator> i think install 12.04 from *.iso better than upgrade.
[08:24] <neattoast> shadykhan: check about:config
[08:24] <neattoast> Twinlator: Agreed.
[08:25] <shani0610> just a thought, unity needs more latest pkgs than 2d I guess?
[08:25] <neattoast> shani0610: unity uses a 3d redering engine whereas 2d doesn't, so yes.
[08:26] <shani0610> then it should've worked already, strange
[08:26] <Waraudon> On second thought, I did find a bug for my problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squid3/+bug/988802
[08:27]  * nikolja Dobar dan o/
[08:27] <neattoast> shani0610: your original dump said your graphics card wasn't good enough.
[08:27] <shani0610> yeah, so how to test it for unity-2d?
[08:27] <Mario-> Immaturi Il Viaggio 2012 MD TELESYNC ITA DEEP avi
[08:27] <neattoast> shani0610: Unity 2d works on everything :)
[08:28] <shani0610> good to here that, I guess its my box thats having problems, anyway thnx for help.
[08:29] <oCean> !list > Mario-
[08:29] <neattoast> shani0610: Your welcome, and good luck!
[08:30] <shani0610> how to upgrade pkgs individually?
[08:31] <shani0610> like I have this libgcc1 version= 1:4.1.1 but I require: version=1:4.5.2-8ubuntu4 ?
[08:31] <delfick> hi, in Ubuntu 12.04, gnome-terminal decides it should move onto a different monitor (I have three) the first time i open a new tab. where should I file a bug?
[08:31] <neattoast> shani0610: It isn't usually all that safe to upgrade packages mannually, but I would say (I don't know apt-get very well) apt-get install libgcc
[08:32] <Pouncer> im trying to use my westell 7500 wifi modem/router to connect to a wifi network on 12.04 but cant seem to figure out how to do so can anyone help
[08:32] <never2far> i can't get to work Alt + F10 in keyboard shortcuts for maximize window ...anyone has an ideea where to check why
[08:32] <never2far> ?
[08:32] <shani0610> ok giving it try...
[08:36] <faryshta> How can I use midori with tor?
[08:37] <neattoast> sh!patience
[08:37] <neattoast> !patience
[08:39] <Waraudon> I think I'll add a command to start Squid to /etc/rc.local until the bug is fixed
[08:39] <nahuel_> hi there
[08:40] <neattoast> nahuel_: Do you have a question?
[08:41] <Multiply> What's the easiest way to block access to a port on 0.0.0.0, except from a small range of IPs?
[08:41] <neattoast> Multiply: Install ddwrt
[08:41] <Multiply> neattoast: It won't block everything, from the beginning? :P
[08:42] <neattoast> Multiply: I think I misunderstood your question. I thought you meant router based.
[08:42] <phpN00b_> I need to run a windows software (no, it doesn't work with wine), but I would like to have Ubutu as my main os because I don't trust Windows. Is there a way to have a clean environment to do this?
[08:42] <Multiply> neattoast: Nah, I was thinking iptables. I'd love a command to make it more simple.
[08:43] <neattoast> Multiply: I'm pretty sure that someone has made a script for that :)
[08:43] <faryshta> phpN00b_, you will need to start a virtual machine.
[08:43] <neattoast> good luck!
[08:43] <DarwinSurvivor> phpN00b_: a virtual machine could work
[08:43] <faryshta> How can I use midori with tor?
[08:43] <rye> Multiply: ufw?
[08:43] <DarwinSurvivor> !virtualbox | phpN00b_
[08:43] <Multiply> rye: I'll look it up
[08:43] <neattoast> !patience > faryshta
[08:43] <phpN00b_> DarwinSurvivor, that is what I am doing right now...
[08:43] <phpN00b_> but it is a bit troublesome..
[08:44] <DarwinSurvivor> phpN00b_: what are you having trouble with?
[08:44] <dr--willis> faryshta:  you set the browsere to use  the proper proxy settings once you get tor setup
[08:44] <dr--willis> !tor
[08:44] <phpN00b_> DarwinSurvivor, it is very slow in the VM
[08:44] <faryshta> dr--willis, where? How can I do that on midori?
[08:44] <dr--willis> faryshta:  look in its settings.. idont use that browser
[08:45] <DarwinSurvivor> phpN00b_: what are the specs (cpu & ram) of the computer?
[08:45] <dr--willis> it would be similer to how every other browser does it
[08:45] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:45] <faryshta> dr--willis, I did. Couldn't find a way to set the sock-proxy
[08:45] <phpN00b_> DarwinSurvivor, i7 with 8gb of ram
[08:45] <cristian_c> I would like to know how to enable moonlight on midori
[08:45] <dr--willis> faryshta:  check its docs/homepage i guess. i dont use it.
[08:45] <DarwinSurvivor> phpN00b_: unless you are running a flight simulator, virtualbox shouldn't be runnig slowly on that much hardware!
[08:45] <neattoast> !moonlight > neattoast
[08:46] <robgraves> phpNoob_: you can allocate more ram to the virual machine in the settings
[08:46] <Somya> Hi, I have upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04 onto my computer,but the WiFi has stopped working. Can anyone help me out of it and suggest me some ideas that I could implement to solve this problem?
[08:46] <DarwinSurvivor> phpN00b_: what application is it you are trying to use? Also, is it just the application that is slow, or windows itself in the virtual machine?
[08:46] <robgraves> *virtual
[08:46] <cristian_c> on the moonlight page there are only references to firefox and chrome
[08:47] <phpN00b_> DarwinSurvivor, windows itslef is slow
[08:47] <cristian_c> any ideas?
[08:47] <phpN00b_> DarwinSurvivor, the interface lags
[08:47] <neattoast> cristian_c: Try installing them both, I think midori can use both chrome and firefox plugins.
[08:47] <DarwinSurvivor> phpN00b_: what version of windows are you running and how much ram did you allocate to the virtual machine?
[08:47] <cristian_c> neattoast, ok, thanks
[08:47] <phpN00b_> DarwinSurvivor, win 7 ultimate with 4GB of ram
[08:47] <faryshta> dr--willis, https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-web.html.en this is the doc. Its written for Firefox and Midori isn't anything alike. So its not useful to me.
[08:48] <DarwinSurvivor> Somya: is there any particular reason you didn't upgrade to 12.04 or at least 11.10?
[08:48] <neattoast> cristian_c: Your welcome
[08:48] <dr--willis> faryshta:  check the midori homepage/docs/help  it may be some about:config type url/setting.
[08:48] <DarwinSurvivor> phpN00b_: run the windows 7 performance tool and post a screenshot of the results (should look like http://www.chotocheeta.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/win7_q6600_650_sli_8400_02.jpg )
[08:49] <pratz> hey guys can i use ubuntu 12.04 repo for debian ??
[08:49] <dr--willis> pratz:  not a good idea
[08:49] <oCean> DarwinSurvivor, phpN00b_ Please use ##windows for support on Windows and Windows applications.
[08:49] <dr--willis> pratz:  can cause bad breakage
[08:49] <Somya> DarwinSurvivor, No particular reason I was using ubuntu 10.10 till now so I just upgraded to the next version i.e. 11.04
[08:50] <cristian_c> neattoast, what application have I to open the .xpi file?
[08:50] <mint_> linux sucks i am going back to mac os x
[08:50] <neattoast> cristian_c: firefox I am guessing
[08:51] <dr--willis> mint_:  so?
[08:51] <neattoast> dr--willis: +1
[08:51] <cristian_c> neattoast, firefox
[08:51] <mint_> at least macs don't get viruses
[08:51] <DarwinSurvivor> Somya: i'd recommend upgrading to at *least* 11.10 and see if it's working again in there. you should be able to upgrade via wired ethernet
[08:51] <oCean> mint_: please stop it
[08:51] <neattoast> cristian_c: That is what I would do.
[08:51] <phpN00b_> DarwinSurvivor, windows can not do the performance test in the vm
[08:51] <cristian_c> neattoast, but I have got midori
[08:51] <gaelfx> come on guys, he's just giving us a great way to use /ignore
[08:51] <dr--willis> mint_:  1 out of 5 macs are infected from what i saw today on news sites
[08:52] <neattoast> cristian_c: In that case open it in midori (if you can) If you can't, open it in firefox.
[08:52] <mint_> macs are a lot more stable than linux to
[08:52] <sri13> Hi all
[08:52] <Somya> DarwinSurvivor, ok let me try thank you
[08:52] <faryshta> Can you recommend me a light weight server that can use tor?
[08:52] <cristian_c> neattoast, I do not have got firefox
[08:52] <neattoast> mint_: And a lot less virus prone
[08:52] <BumbleB> 你好，Any Chinese-speaking (or learning) people here?
[08:52] <DarwinSurvivor> phpN00b_: check in the virtualbox settings to see if hardware acceleration is enabled, if your computer doesn't support it, you will have to turn off Aero in windows
[08:52] <oCean> neattoast: no need to comment, thanks
[08:52] <neattoast> cristian_c: Then just try it in midori.
[08:52] <cristian_c> neattoast, How can I open it in midori?
[08:52] <oCean> !cn | BumbleB
[08:52] <foobArrr> I have a problem with X and xfce4-settings-helper, high CPU usage. the first few minutes after login, X uses 100% of one core and xfce4-settings-helper is at ~25%. after a few minutes this drops to around 25% for X and 5% for xfce4-settings-helper. If I kill xfce4-settings-helper, X cpu usage is normal again. this started after upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04.
[08:52] <faryshta> Can you recommend me another light browser that support socks servers?
[08:52] <dr--willis> faryshta:  what?  that dident make sence
[08:53] <foobArrr> 2 screenshots of htop, one directly after login, one 20 minutes later: http://s3.imgimg.de/uploads/afterboot3995565dpng.png http://s3.imgimg.de/uploads/later765b8859png.png
[08:53] <dr--willis> ok thats better. ;)
[08:53] <sri13> My wired connection gets disconnected, when screen z locked. Do u know whats the problem ?
[08:53] <cristian_c> neattoast, it appeared a window called 'Open with'
[08:53] <dr--willis> I imagine midori has a proxy setting somewhere:.
[08:53] <faryshta> dr--willis, I know, rewrited it.
[08:53] <neattoast> cristian_c: choose midori on that list.
[08:53] <BumbleB> Hi ubottu, I need English-Speaking help with a Chinese input problem.
[08:53] <cristian_c> ok
[08:53] <faryshta> dr--willis, well no one seem to know where it is. So I will move on.
[08:54] <oCean> BumbleB: just describe your issue to the channel (detailed, in single line) and see who can help you
[08:54] <DarwinSurvivor> !tsocks | faryshta
[08:54] <DarwinSurvivor> darn, faryshta tsocks will allow *any* application to run through a socks proxy
[08:54] <faryshta> DarwinSurvivor, how?
[08:54] <DarsVaeda1> how and where do I post feature-requests, got a link?
[08:55] <DarwinSurvivor> faryshta: http://wiki.shellium.org/w/How_to_ssh_tunnel#Configuring_tsocks
[08:55] <oCean> !info tsocks
[08:55] <oCean> DarwinSurvivor: ^ that is the trigger for info on software :)
[08:55] <BumbleB> I'm using ubuntu 10.12, and have been happy with the default Pinyin input (via ibus) for hanzi.  I'd like to enter pinyin with tone marks, but can't figure out how.
[08:55] <DarwinSurvivor> faryshta: set it up, then run "tsocks applicaton_name" and tsocks will launch the application and cause all of its traffic to go through the proxy
[08:55] <phpN00b_> DarwinSurvivor, it is turned on. and my cpu does support virtualization
[08:55] <DarwinSurvivor> !brainstorm | DarsVaeda
[08:56] <gaelfx> BumbleB: I've never heard of a Chinese input that you can use tones with
[08:56] <dr--willis> http://wiki.xfce.org/midori/faq      google is handy.
[08:56] <dr--willis> seems you got to use tsocks or somehting for midori to use a proxy
[08:56] <DarsVaeda> DarwinSurvivor: ahh thanks thats what I was looking for
[08:56] <DarwinSurvivor> phpN00b_: the only other thing I can recommend is turning off the win7 special effects. anything beyond that and you'll have to ask the guys in #windows
[08:57] <neattoast> !windows
[08:57] <DarwinSurvivor> phpN00b_: you could also dual-boot if that works better for you
[08:57] <phpN00b_> DarwinSurvivor, I am considering that..
[08:57] <cristian_c> neattoast, How can I enable it?
[08:57] <shredding> Hey guys.
[08:57] <neattoast> open the xpi in midori...
[08:58] <neattoast> cristian_c: open the xpi in midori.
[08:58] <cristian_c> neattoast, it happens nothing
[08:58] <shredding> Can someone recommend an alternative for MS Visio or Omnigraffle (on Mac)?
[08:58] <BumbleB> Hi gaelfx, I think you misunderstood.  I'd like to enter pinyin rather than hanzi, ie 'hǎo' rather than '好'.
[08:58] <shredding> I don't need uml or so, just wireframing.
[08:58] <neattoast> cristian_c: Are you sure? Go to about:PLUGINS
[08:58] <cristian_c> ok
[08:58] <orated_> What's the difference between a source archive and a tarball?
[08:58] <DarwinSurvivor> shredding: shredding depending what you are using them for, dia or libreoffice draw may work for you
[08:59] <shredding> And: I'm on holiday right now and have only one shot left because I'm tethering internet via an capped Android Flatrate
[08:59] <shredding> :)
[08:59] <gaelfx> BumbleB: well, then you would be best off writing pinyin followed by numbers for tones and writing a script to replace the characters properly
[08:59] <matthewL> :)
[08:59] <DarwinSurvivor> orated_: a tarball is like a zip file (without the compression) and is a *type* of source archive
[08:59] <gaelfx> BumbleB: are you trying to make worksheets or something?
[08:59] <DarwinSurvivor> orated_: a .tar.gz is a tarball that has been subjected to gzip compression
[08:59] <cristian_c> neattoast, both about:plugins and about:PLUGINS are empty :(
[08:59] <neattoast> !source
[08:59] <neattoast> !tarball
[09:00] <neattoast> cristian_c: Then install the plugins with firefox or chrome, and then open up midori.
[09:00] <neattoast> should work.
[09:00] <rumpe1> BumbleB, i use ibus for that (i think)
[09:00] <MrStark> yo
[09:00] <shredding> DarwinSurvivor: It looks like libreoffice draw is perfect
[09:00] <shredding> And already installed :)
[09:00] <BumbleB> I do it in various circumstances, right now I'm writing code and using a conversion like you mentioned is a bit of a pain.
[09:00] <shredding> Can someone say a word about Kivio?
[09:01] <rumpe1> BumbleB, ibus or scim... don't know for sure
[09:01] <gaelfx> shredding: Kivio is
[09:01] <neattoast> !kivio | shredding
[09:01] <matthewL> ubottu: fascinating!!
[09:01] <MrStark> Anyone installed on laptop with no issues?
[09:01] <gaelfx> matthewL: ubottu is a bot
[09:01] <BumbleB> Scim has a method for it, was just hoping that I wouldn't have to change over from ibus.
[09:01] <shredding> Why !kivio?
[09:01] <neattoast> !info kivio | shredding
[09:01] <phpN00b_> DarwinSurvivor, thanks for the help. I think I will replace Ubuntu with Windows with virus scanner and encryption.
[09:01] <hoshi411> how can I get a list of installed packages off of an unbootable system?
[09:01] <cristian_c> neattoast, firefox and chrome are not installed :(
[09:01] <shredding> Because it's KDE?
[09:01] <orated_> DarwinSurvivor:  neattoast:  Yes, I was wondering why in this question - http://askubuntu.com/questions/25961/how-to-install-a-tar-gz-file#comment28683_25972 - a difference between a source archive and tarball is stressed
[09:02] <hoshi411> i would like to recreate the system but it is unbootabkle
[09:02] <gaelfx> hoshi411: what happens when you try to boot?
[09:02] <hoshi411> so ... it would be nice if I could get a list of packages from it
[09:02] <dr--willis> hoshi411:  boot live cd and chroot in,  then see the !clone factoid
[09:02] <shredding> I'm thinking about dia, kivio and libreoffice draw
[09:02] <neattoast> cristian_c: Then install moonlight from the command line. (apt-get install moonlight) (or something liek that)
[09:02] <neattoast> *like
[09:02] <hoshi411> gaelfx:  I get the error  "boot error" before grub even starts
[09:03] <dr--willis> hoshi411:  if you cant boot a live cd.. you got deeper issues
[09:03] <hoshi411> dr--willis:  thanks I will look into clone factoid
[09:03] <matthewL> gaelfx: oops
[09:03] <gaelfx> hoshi411: well, you could try to boot from a livecd/usb, but if the HDD is totally useless, you won't get anything
[09:03] <lasha> hello guys
[09:03] <hoshi411> dr--willis:  the system that will not boot IS A LIVE cd
[09:03] <lasha> what do I have to do in order to make cube work in xubuntu ?
[09:04] <cristian_c> neattoast, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=moonlight&searchon=names&suite=oneiric&section=all
[09:04] <shredding> ubottu: I do not really get your last comment ... I'm on 12.04
[09:04] <dr--willis> hoshi411:  how did yiu install stuff on a live cd? somthings not clear here...
[09:04] <lasha> its gnome 2ish so it should be easier hopefully
[09:04] <hoshi411> dr--willis:  it is a persistent live usb stick that Id been making for a friend and somehow toasted it
[09:04] <neattoast> lasha: install ccsm
[09:04] <MrStark> Who installed ubuntu on laptop?
[09:04] <Matan[M]> hello, someone know when it will be enable update to 12.04 for hibernation? i need this feature quickly
[09:04] <matthewL> lash a: conpiz?
[09:04] <shredding> MrStark: I have
[09:04] <Matan[M]> MrStark: me
[09:04] <dr--willis> lasha:  webupd8 blog site has a guide on that.
[09:04] <rye> Matan[M]: http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/
[09:04] <abdo> welcome
[09:05] <Matan[M]> rye: big thx
[09:05] <lasha> thank you guys
[09:05] <hoshi411> dr--willis:  but I assume I can use clone factoid on this just the same
[09:05] <neattoast> cristian_c: get moonlight-tools
[09:05]  * gaelfx facepalms
[09:05] <dr--willis> hoshi411:  make a 2nd usb- flash with perisstnat save and copy the casper-rw over to it.. it should then use the changes. you can mount the casper-rw file also
[09:05] <neattoast> the deps should install automatically
[09:05] <gaelfx> dr--willis: that was pretty hilarious
[09:05] <abdo> can any1 advice me how to termminal  commands
[09:05] <shredding> nettoast: why wouldn't you recommend kivio or dia?
[09:05] <cristian_c> ok
[09:05] <dr--willis> !bash | adbo
[09:06] <abdo> im new user and i want to benfite from that commands
[09:06] <hoshi411> dr--willis:  I was about to do that but ... im afraid that the casper-rw was the problem ... something i installed..
[09:06] <hoshi411> but I would like to simply get a list of the packages that I had installed on the old system
[09:06] <hoshi411> dr--willis:  ^
[09:06] <dr--willis> hoshi411:  its a ext2 or 3 fs you can mount/fsck and see whats there. ;) ive not dug into it much
[09:06] <MrStark> Any issues beside the display, WiFi, battery indicators, touchpad on laptop?
[09:06] <JensenDan> running xrdp on my ubuntu, when i connect from win client, it disconnects me with the error "error in protocol"... what to do? if i use a linux client, it works like a charm.
[09:06] <abdo> exit
[09:07] <oCean> MrStark: many laptops don't have installation/configuration issues at all. See also: https://friendly.ubuntu.com/
[09:07] <pndemc_> I've installed all the packages for Mint's MATE environment, but how do I actually quit unity and start MATE?
[09:07] <bluebk> why does my shut down button turn into logout
[09:07] <neattoast> abdo: It is /exit
[09:07] <neattoast> pndemc_: mate-session --replace
[09:07] <faryshta> DarwinSurvivor, I am having problems with tsocks. Malformed configuration pair on line 31 in configuration file, "server=127.0.0.1"
[09:07] <dr--willis> pndemc_:  check the mogin screen menus.. we dont really support mate here.
[09:07] <oCean> MrStark: or, if you have a more specific question, releated to a specific configuration, please share the details in the channel
[09:07] <pndemc_> neattoast, thank you!!
[09:08] <gaelfx> bluebk: gnome? try holding ctl when looking at the drop down menu
[09:08] <Pouncer> is anyone good with networking and routers
[09:08] <neattoast> pndemc_: That usually works.
[09:08] <DarwinSurvivor> phpN00b_: just out of curiosity, what application is it that you need windows for (we are always curious as to what apps linux is lacking)
[09:08] <neattoast> :)
[09:08] <oCean> Pouncer: maybe try ##networking channel
[09:08] <DarwinSurvivor> faryshta: http://wiki.xfce.org/midori/faq#proxy_servers
[09:08] <bluebk> no unity
[09:08] <DarwinSurvivor> faryshta: follow those instructions and let me know if you have issues
[09:08] <bluebk> i just upgraded to 12.04
[09:08] <Matan[M]> someone know how to switch on webcam in cog-menu (in devices section)
[09:09] <Pouncer> oCean: thanks ill give them a try
[09:09] <bluebk> when press shut down button the system log out
[09:09] <pratz> hey guys last night i tried to install u12.04 but the installer just did not installed the os
[09:09] <bluebk> instead
[09:10] <gaelfx> bluebk: are you logged in as a sudo user?
[09:10] <bluebk> yes
[09:10] <pratz> the installer gave the error that - "Internal Error" and installation stoped
[09:10] <neattoast> Good night, #ubuntu
[09:10] <gaelfx> Good night
[09:10] <pratz> gaelfx: dude remeber me, u12.04 is just not getting installed on my machine
[09:11] <gaelfx> pratz: yes, I remember you. what type of media are you installing from?
[09:11] <bluebk> never have this problem before upgrade
[09:11] <JensenDan> running xrdp on my ubuntu, when i connect from win client, it disconnects me with the error "error in protocol"... what to do? if i use a linux client, it works like a charm.
[09:11] <pratz> gaelfx: CD
[09:11] <MrStark> Ya pretty problematic on laptop..
[09:11] <pratz> gaelfx: i also have debian 6 , i successfully install it without any problems
[09:12] <pratz> gaelfx: just to check if any thing is wrong
[09:12] <DarwinSurvivor> JensenDan: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsserver2008r2rds/thread/36de0ba1-47f3-4624-bb10-128661fb546b
[09:12] <gaelfx> pratz: so I assume you can get into a live session, where does the install fail?
[09:12] <pratz> gaelfx: installer say "Internal Error"
[09:12] <DarwinSurvivor> JensenDan: sounds like a problem on the windows side, try the ##windows channel
[09:13] <gaelfx> pratz: during which step?
[09:13] <pratz> gaelfx: when we select the country for timezone i guess, Installer - "Where are you from" or something like that
[09:13] <dr--willis> window trouble shooting step 1 - turn off windows firewall. ;)
[09:13] <faryshta> DarwinSurvivor, I followed the tsocks part as its written and still get the same errors. I think my problem is the tsocks.conf file.
[09:13] <pratz> gaelfx: i tried number of time but the same problem
[09:13] <Rar9> hi is there anyone that would be able to help with installing apache Solr 3.6 under Tomcat7 `? Ubuntu 10.04
[09:13] <phpN00b_> DarwinSurvivor, it is chat client for trading..
[09:14] <gaelfx> anyone know which step in the install comes after you select your time zone?
[09:14] <bluebk> so can any one tell me how to fix my shutting out problem?
[09:14] <DarwinSurvivor> faryshta: please pastebin your config as well as the terminal output
[09:15] <DarwinSurvivor> phpN00b_: ah, never worked with those. I know lots of trading *servers* run linux, but not sure about clients.
[09:15] <kobiluruz> simple question. how do i change the view to "detailed view" in the file browser ??
[09:15] <faryshta> DarwinSurvivor, http://tinypaste.com/621f6ed4 this is the shell response
[09:16] <paulus68> I am running server 12.04 in VM and for some reason it's not bringing up the 2nd nic automaticly what do I do wrong?
[09:16] <vectorshelve> how to install adobe flash player in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[09:16] <DarwinSurvivor> faryshta: please pastebin your config as well
[09:16] <bluebk> or is it a bug
[09:16] <vectorshelve> i have the libflashplayer.so file
[09:16] <vectorshelve> can anyone help please.. thanks
[09:16] <faryshta> DarwinSurvivor, http://tinypaste.com/16f2938f
[09:16] <kobiluruz> does anyone know how i do change the view setting in the file browser ? i need to be detailed view. i hate this big icons.
[09:19] <dr--willis> its in the menus i recall kobiluruz , theres also some hot key combo.. not on gnome to check ;)
[09:20] <kobiluruz> dr--willis,  i cant see any menus
[09:20] <prasad> can we advertise our website over here ?
[09:20] <pratz> gaelfx: before that is hard disk partition step
[09:20] <dr--willis> kobiluruz:  at the very top in the panel, unless thts the actual problem
[09:21] <dr--willis> kobiluruz:  they should appear when you hover the  mouse up top
[09:21] <pratz> gaelfx: i first though that my hard disk is corrupt, so i installed debain 6 and it was installed without any problem
[09:21] <paulus68> kobiluruz: then you go to the view menu and at the bottom you have the several option to choose from
[09:21] <pratz> gaelfx: do you think the iso image was not proper ?
[09:21] <kobiluruz> dr--willis,  ahh ok. i see list and compact
[09:22] <kobiluruz> thanks.
[09:22] <dr--willis> kknown issue with the globelmenus..  easy to overlook them.;)
[09:23] <dr--willis> i think there was some tweak/suggetion to make the menu itemsshow when an app first launches to remind the user they exist..
[09:23] <kobiluruz> that would be good for noobs like me :p
[09:23] <faryshta> DarwinSurvivor, any ideas?
[09:24] <dr--willis> kobiluruz:  if using 12.04 the HUD also lets you find menu items quickly; hit the alt key and start typing.. ie:   list   would show the  list menu item. (i think)
[09:24] <kobiluruz> ah nice.thanks for the tip
[09:24] <hobbel> Is there a proper default hardware info tool in 12.04, or do I have to use terminal with a live CD?
[09:25] <dr--willis> !info hwinfo
[09:25] <LukeNukem> on bootup
[09:25] <J0BI> from windows i have this \\serverip\programfolder\example.exe /h=remote-server how can i have the same in ubuntu 12.04
[09:25] <dr--willis> not sure  about 'default'  i always install stuff :)
[09:26] <J0BI> ?
[09:26] <LukeNukem> ubuntu does not ask password, how can i make it ask for password
[09:26] <shadykhan> how can i live stream my desktop?
[09:26] <dr--willis> LukeNukem:  from the grub menu? or when the user logins?
[09:26] <LukeNukem> dr--willis, when i bootup ubuntu takes me to my account
[09:27] <kobiluruz> 2nd question. how can i get eyefinity. or atlest set up my other 2 monitor somehow. i have 3 monitors and all are showind the same desktop. :\
[09:27] <LukeNukem> it does not ask for password for that account
[09:27] <LukeNukem> mine is the only account on this pc
[09:27] <dr--willis> LukeNukem:  the login manager settings has a autologin option you can change
[09:27] <LukeNukem> i want it to ask for password like in windows
[09:27] <LukeNukem> dr--willis, do i need to install that
[09:27] <dr--willis> its in the nroaml tools/settings
[09:27] <dr--willis> normal
[09:28] <faryshta> I have problems with tsocks. http://tinypaste.com/621f6ed4
[09:28] <hobbel> dr-willis so its a package I have to install. hmm, i was planning on using it on a live cd
[09:28] <dr--willis> wonder if its in the hud.. if using 12.04 try  alt -: 'login'  and see if it shows up
[09:28] <LukeNukem> dr--willis, i dont see it in system settings
[09:28] <sirffreddirocco> hi guys, i've installed precise on an aspire 5750g with i3 and nvidia card. To start livecd i've to use "nomodeset" option 'cause it won't start, but using option i do that. Now i've precise installed but unity 3d won't work
[09:28] <dr--willis> hobbel:  there may be other tools i rarely notice whatgs default
[09:28] <dr--willis> LukeNukem:  look around.. its there.. or try the alt (text) trick
[09:28] <Fyodorovna> user accounts is where the login control is
[09:29] <LukeNukem> okay
[09:29] <hobbel> dr-willis without internet i cant install, will try to add package to livedics :)
[09:29] <LukeNukem> auto login is turned off :D
[09:30] <dr--willis> That HUD can be handy for finding settingsi guess. ;)
[09:31] <airdem> hello, ive installed another language but in "language support" settings the new language is gray and i cannot switch
[09:32] <airdem> ive  read that i  have to select  it on login but on lubuntu login there is no lang selection
[09:32] <faryshta> How can I use tsocks on ubuntu?
[09:33] <DarwinSurvivor> faryshta: sorry had to deal with cats :(
[09:33] <diverdude> How can i check if my machine is 32 or 64 bit?
[09:33] <DarwinSurvivor> faryshta: try adding spaces around the = signs like the example has
[09:33] <Chr|s> is the ubuntu server, ubuntu minimal?
[09:33] <ZOmBIENiNGA> why i must upgrade this ?
[09:34] <KM0201> Chr|s: not really
[09:34] <ZOmBIENiNGA> >_> this stuff is killing me
[09:34] <mohitdhingras> @diverdude uname -a
[09:34] <ZOmBIENiNGA> i can't install MyPaint 1.0 (i can only 0.8)
[09:34] <KM0201> !minimal  | Chr|s
[09:34] <xerent> What do you make of this? Graphics/chipset is Intel Atom Z5xx/SCH US15W using default LVDS display settings of 1024x768 resolution. During init there is some text about EDID configuration failure. http://xerent.lokalen.org/incoming/ubuntuinstall.jpg
[09:35] <hoshi411> anyone know how I can see a list of what packages I have installed on my machine? is it written in a list somwhere?
[09:35] <ZOmBIENiNGA> can some one tell me how i can install MyPaint 1.0 on Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[09:35] <faryshta> DarwinSurvivor, that solved it.
[09:35] <minimec> diverdude: the CPU has to be 64bit capable. Do you know what CPU you have?
[09:35] <DarwinSurvivor> faryshta: good to hear. sometimes it's the simple things :P
[09:35] <faryshta> DarwinSurvivor, thanks.
[09:35] <KM0201> ZOmBIENiNGA: that will likely be an exercise in frustration, 10.10 is no longer supported.
[09:35] <diverdude> minimec: no i dont
[09:36] <diverdude> minimec: how can i see ?
[09:36] <Fyodorovna> hoshi411, this command will give the list and can be used for installing. dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[09:36] <ZOmBIENiNGA> i know its no longer supported
[09:36] <minimec> diverdude: Do you have a system installed on that computer?
[09:36] <ZOmBIENiNGA> but Unity is suck
[09:36] <ZOmBIENiNGA> i like the old gnome 2
[09:36] <ZOmBIENiNGA> so i use 10.10
[09:36] <oCean> ZOmBIENiNGA: give xfce a try (xubuntu)
[09:36] <KM0201> ZOmBIENiNGA: then don't use unity (and actually, as a long time hater of unity...) i just started using it again to give it a try, it's gotten WAY better in 12.04
[09:37] <ZOmBIENiNGA> i did it
[09:37] <diverdude> minimec: yeah a ubuntu 10.10
[09:37] <oCean> ZOmBIENiNGA: EOL versions are offtopic for this channel
[09:37] <diverdude> minimec: but i want to install 12.04 LTS
[09:37] <diverdude> minimec: but forgot if it s a 32 or 64 bit
[09:37] <ZOmBIENiNGA> well so i can't get MyPaint 1.0 ?
[09:37] <nlici> Hi Friends !i am facing a very rare problem .I upgrade the ubuntu  to 12 ls and now i can not able to print nothing through cable connection but i can do it through the wireless . When i am connecting the cabe it seems that the date is transferring but it stopped by the computer i changed 3 different printers and both i face the same problem . Please advice i need your helps
[09:37] <minimec> diverdude: OK. So open the 'System Monitor'. In the first tab you find the info about your CPU
[09:37] <KM0201> ZOmBIENiNGA: there's other GUI's than just Unity... KDE, XFCE, LXDE, and numerous others.
[09:38] <minimec> diverdude: Can you tell us, what's written there?
[09:38] <hoshi411> Fyodorovna:  thank you that works
[09:38] <hardy89> Hello, I upgraded from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 LTS !!! Now i m unable to here sound. While turning ON my laptop I do here Ubuntu Theme Music but I m not able hear any sound while playing Songs or Videos. I do here sound when I connect external Speakers. Whenever I connect Speakers, i have to go to Sound Setting & Have to select OUTPUT as "Headphones" then only the sound is audible in speakers as well as my Inbuilt Laptop speakers. I w
 why i can't use gnome 2 on 12.04 ?
[09:38] <the-erm> and awesome ...
[09:38] <oCean> ZOmBIENiNGA: since it is offtopic, this channel cannot help you with support questions
[09:38] <oCean> ZOmBIENiNGA: gnome2 is dead, no longer maintained
[09:38] <KM0201> ZOmBIENiNGA: because gnome2 is no longer in development
[09:38] <Fyodorovna> hoshi411, no problem.
[09:38] <minimec> diverdude: Also tell us how much Memory you have...
[09:38] <ZOmBIENiNGA> oh >_>
[09:38] <the-erm> I think there is a fork of gnome2 called mate.
[09:38] <diverdude> minimec: it does not say how much bit there
[09:38] <oCean> ZOmBIENiNGA: again, XFCE looks a LOT like gnome2
[09:39] <ZOmBIENiNGA> fork ?
[09:39]  * auronandace finds it amazing that people don't realise gnome2 is abandoned
[09:39] <ZOmBIENiNGA> sounds good
[09:39] <minimec> diverdude: Still... tell me what's written there
[09:39] <diverdude> AMD Athlon(tm) Neo X2 Dual Core Processor L325
[09:39] <KM0201> the-erm: the problem with it is, it wouldn't surprise me if in 3-4mo, it is no longer supported or updated.. thats what happens with small projects like that.
[09:39] <myhero> whats the diff between running live session from usb and dvd ? and which is better ?
[09:39] <the-erm> Then run xfce4.
[09:39] <diverdude> minimec: and memore 1.7 GB
[09:40] <diverdude> memory
[09:40] <minimec> diverdude: Ok. That should be 64bit capable. Let me verfy that to be sure.
[09:40] <aexa> hello
[09:40] <the-erm> It's a pretty decent windows manager.
[09:40] <KM0201> the-erm: thus the suggestions he received
[09:40] <ZOmBIENiNGA> huh so now i forced to use Windows
[09:40] <ZOmBIENiNGA> my Bambo pen works the best with MyPaint
[09:40] <oCean> ZOmBIENiNGA: this channel is not the place to rant
[09:40] <hoshi411> Fyodorovna:  wait a second.... that command actually returned nothing O_o
[09:40]  * KM0201 sighs
[09:40] <ZOmBIENiNGA> very well
[09:40] <myhero> whats the diff between running live session from usb and dvd ? and which is better ?
[09:40] <auronandace> ZOmBIENiNGA: you honestly can't use xfce?
[09:40] <oCean> ZOmBIENiNGA: choose anything you like
[09:41] <ZOmBIENiNGA> i just hate to format my hard drive
[09:41] <KM0201> myhero: my personal opinion, the USB might be *slightly* faster.. but not enough to really get in a twist about.
[09:41] <Fyodorovna> hoshi411, copy and paste dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[09:41] <ZOmBIENiNGA> any way i will give xfce a try
[09:41] <minimec> diverdude: OK. You can go for 64bit, as I expected...
[09:41] <xerent> No idea about this problem? http://xerent.lokalen.org/incoming/ubuntuinstall.jpg
[09:41] <hoshi411> Fyodorovna:  I did but nothing was returned
[09:42] <myhero> km0201: yeah i also think usb is faster but apart frm that any other change ?
[09:42] <the-erm> It's ok to feel the way you feel.  I know how you feel I was happy with KDE3 ran it for years, then they started KDE4 moved to Gnome2, now Unity, and Gnome3.  So I use xfce4.
[09:42] <paulus68> kobiluruz: then you go to the view menu and at the bottom you have the several option to choose from
[09:42] <diverdude> minimec: great, thx :)
[09:42] <paulus68> I am running server 12.04 in VM and for some reason it's not bringing up the 2nd nic automaticly what do I do wrong?
[09:42] <hoshi411> Fyodorovna:  but if I type 'dpkg --get-selections ' alone, i actually do get a list
[09:42] <shadykhan> why isnt my terminal showing up in unity launcher?
[09:42] <Fyodorovna> hoshi411, did you look in home for a package installed-software
[09:42] <KM0201> myhero: not that i've ever noticed... i've done a lot of installs from both.. they're essentially identical to me
[09:42] <hoshi411> Fyodorovna:  I see... that's what that carrot was there for  > :p
[09:43] <hoshi411> thank you
[09:43] <KM0201> xerent: that picture is horrible, what is the problem?
[09:43] <minimec> diverdude: Here is some datasheet about your CPU http://www.google.ch/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=amd%20athlon(tm)%20neo%20x2%20dual%20core%20processor%20l325%2064bit&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CEYQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amd.com%2Fpl%2FDocuments%2F47413A_Dual_Core_BGA_brief_PDF.pdf&ei=EV6eT465CIySOrqT3PsB&usg=AFQjCNHviURQwIA2etyS2OuooULrlmyP7g&cad=rja
[09:43] <xerent> KM0201: the window system seems all jumbled
[09:43] <myhero> km0201: i meant not install but runnng live session coz in it only one will notice speed ?
[09:44] <auronandace> myhero: also, you can write to the usb
[09:44] <KM0201> probably something to do w/ your graphicschipset.... what is it?
[09:44] <myhero> uronandace: yea rght
[09:44] <KM0201> myhero: then you'll want to use USB, as you can set up a persistent setup, and save changes
[09:44] <myhero> km0201: yea
[09:44] <KM0201> seems kinda silly to "always" use a live cd/usb though
[09:44] <xerent> Intel Atom Z5xx / SCH US15W --nothing fancy
[09:44] <hoshi411> Fyodorovna:  is there anyway to run this list into aptitude and get it to install all this on another sysstem? possibly?
[09:45] <hoshi411> or would I need to format it
[09:45] <hardy89_> Unable to hear sound via Inbuilt Speakers !!!!!!
[09:45] <hoshi411> taking out all the line breaks etc
[09:45] <KM0201> myhero: is that some sort of tablet?
[09:45] <pratz> gaelfx: hey dude any idea why the installer is giving the error ?
[09:45] <Gosset_Inofensiu> hi, I would like to delete/remove/disable Unity's top bar/panel (I want to keep the launcher at the left and run gnome-panel with bottom classic panel). I've done a lot of investigation on Google but haven't found the solution. Could you help me please?
[09:45] <myhero> km0201: yea it is kind of silly.....coz every change made is lost everytime its booted..!!!\
[09:45] <KM0201> myhero: so why noot install?
[09:46] <the-erm> hardy89_: have you installed pavucontrol?  or perhaps the mixer?
[09:46] <z3bra> Hi all ! How can I update my icon pack WITHOUT logout please ?
[09:46] <hardy89_> the-erm : wat is it ??? Have No idea.
[09:46] <DarwinSurvivor> !sound | hardy89_
[09:46] <myhero> no its laptop.....thing is my windows crashed so i took out hdd for recovery so now a days m going for live session linux...!!
[09:47] <the-erm> hardy89_: it's pulse-audio's controller.
[09:47] <minimec> Gosset_Inofensiu: Best way is probably to start a 'gnome classic' session and use the unity2d-launcher in combination with the gnome-panel.
[09:47] <KM0201> hardy89_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:47] <hardy89_> km0201 : 12.04 LTS
[09:47] <the-erm> Gosset_Inofensiu: install xfce4, it'll be easier to configure that way.
[09:47] <hardy89_> Hello, I upgraded from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 LTS !!! Now i m unable to here sound. While turning ON my laptop I do here Ubuntu Theme Music but I m not able hear any sound while playing Songs or Videos. I do here sound when I connect external Speakers. Whenever I connect Speakers, i have to go to Sound Setting & Have to select OUTPUT as "Headphones" then only the sound is audible in speakers as well as my Inbuilt Laptop speakers. I 
[09:47] <Gosset_Inofensiu> minimec, thanks
[09:47] <myhero> once i recover data then i'll install linux not windows this time..!!
[09:48] <hardy89_> the-erm: how to install it ?
[09:48] <minimec> Gosset_Inofensiu: There are even people using the launcher with gnome shell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gnuAkXW5Rs
[09:48] <xerent> is there some way to start the ubuntu installer in "safe mode"?
[09:48] <KM0201> hardy89_: then yeah, i would install pavucontrol and try tweaking the settings   sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[09:48] <Gosset_Inofensiu> wow thanks minimec  again
[09:48] <the-erm> hardy89_: sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[09:48] <DarwinSurvivor> xerent: please define "safe mode"
[09:48] <KM0201> the-erm: it's probably something simple
[09:48] <hardy89_> km0201 : Let me try intalling it.
[09:48] <myhero> km0201: how is 12.04 ?\
[09:48] <Gosset_Inofensiu> but minimec, the launcher in gnome shell has HUD ?
[09:49] <hardy89_> the-erm: thx 4 suggestion
[09:49] <ZOmBIENiNGA> lol i can't ever get packages from Software center cuz i out dated
[09:49] <ogra_> xerent, you can use the alternate image, that will install in text mode
[09:49] <ZOmBIENiNGA> Ubuntu is piss me off
[09:49] <xerent> ogra_: that sounds reasonable
[09:49] <KM0201> myhero: honestly, as a long time hater of Unity... i'm really impressed, i might actually stick w/ it rather than going back to lxde
[09:49] <auronandace> ZOmBIENiNGA: then use a supported release
[09:49] <KM0201> ZOmBIENiNGA: do you have a support question? you've been told several times you are using an unsupported release, upgrade
[09:49] <myhero> km0201: sounds great
[09:49] <auronandace> ZOmBIENiNGA: the support timescale has always been clear
[09:49] <minimec> Gosset_Inofensiu: I don't know how HUD is integrated in the session. I have no idea ;)
[09:49] <auronandace> !release | ZOmBIENiNGA
[09:49] <myhero> i'll definately give it a try
[09:49] <ogra_> xerent, though if the desktop image has issues with graphics for you, the final install (even when coming from the alternate image) might too
[09:49] <Gosset_Inofensiu> well i'll try it thanks
[09:50] <ikonia> LinuxMonkey: that's not how twinview works
[09:50] <ZOmBIENiNGA> is there a disctro that give allways a support ?
[09:50] <z3bra> Can someone help me to apply my icon theme without logout please ?
[09:50] <oCean> ZOmBIENiNGA: please take your rants/discussion elsewhere
[09:50] <auronandace> ZOmBIENiNGA: use a rolling release distro and stay up to date
[09:50] <myhero> km0201: how to backup install packages so as to use them afterwards in newer live session or install on other machine ?
[09:50] <xerent> ogra_: init complains about EDID checksums, so I can try to reconfigure xorg.conf with noedid options, but I need an installation for that
[09:50] <paulus68> I am running server 12.04 in VM and for some reason it's not bringing up the 2nd nic automaticly what do I do wrong?
[09:51] <z3bra> ZOmBIENiNGA: Archlinux
[09:51] <ikonia> LinuxMonkey: sorry, my typo
[09:51] <KM0201> myhero: to my knowledge, there is no way to do that on a live cd, it would be a pain
[09:51] <ZOmBIENiNGA> Archlinux ?
[09:51] <ogra_> xerent, ah, yeah then alternate should help
[09:51] <ZOmBIENiNGA> LTS ?
[09:51] <z3bra> ZOmBIENiNGA: It's a rolling release ditro
[09:51] <oCean> ZOmBIENiNGA: LTS is supported for 5 years
[09:51] <KM0201> ZOmBIENiNGA: if it's any consolation, 12.04 has mypaint 1.0.1, and it is LTS (supported for 5yrs)
[09:51] <DarwinSurvivor> ZOmBIENiNGA: no distribution is going to give you support if you refuse to upgrade
[09:51] <ZOmBIENiNGA> 5 years ???
[09:51] <ZOmBIENiNGA> nice
[09:52] <myhero> km0201: then everytime i'll have to install packages n that wil be wastage of bandwidth
[09:52] <ZOmBIENiNGA> no one told me that
[09:52] <nlici> Hi Friends !i am facing a very rare problem .I upgrade the ubuntu  to 12 ls and now i can not able to print nothing through cable connection but i can do it through the wireless . When i am connecting the cabe it seems that the date is transferring but it stopped by the computer i changed 3 different printers and both i face the same problem . Please advice i need your helps because i am trying to get help for 2 days no answer
[09:52] <z3bra> ZOmBIENiNGA: That's the principle of LTS release ;)
[09:52] <KM0201> myhero: well i don't know what more you expect, a live install, is a live install... thats what its designed to do (clear changes when you reboot)
[09:52] <ZOmBIENiNGA> i'm downloading Xubuntu 12.04
[09:52] <ZOmBIENiNGA> i will see how its well work to me
[09:52] <the-erm> myhero: you can use a package like apt-catcher-ng to cache the packages.  It's basically a proxy server.
[09:53] <Kriss3d> so far i like 12.04. once the unity is removed.
[09:53] <KM0201> the-erm: that would be a PITA though.
[09:53] <myhero> km0201: ok...then whats the general ordnary method to backup installed packages...will try that only..!!!
[09:53] <DarwinSurvivor> nlici: you have not posted any details of your issue. what printer makes/models, what "wired" (usb or ethernet), what wireless (wifi or bluetooth), etc
[09:53] <z3bra> Is gnome 3 iintegrated by default to precise p ?
[09:53] <The_BROS> How to add user group of Virtualbox in 12.04?
[09:53] <recon_lap> ZOmBIENiNGA: xubuntu was the one i choose instead of unity, still has configurable desktop
[09:53] <the-erm> KM0201: apt-catcher? or gentoo/arch?
[09:53] <Lace57> http://opensource.com/life/12/4/liberated-pixel-cup-proving-potential-free-culture-and-free-software-game-development
[09:53] <KM0201> myhero: you can try what the-erm suggested, but thats gonna be a pain, i'm not sure what on earth you're trying to do, but you're making it harder oon yourself.
[09:53] <auronandace> Kriss3d: i've forced myself to use unity in 12.04, it isn't as bad as i thought it would be
[09:53] <KM0201> well, both..lol the-erm
[09:54] <ZOmBIENiNGA> www.virtualbox.org have been fall >_>
[09:54] <KM0201> auronandace: same.. i've actually come to kind of like it the last couple of days... and i was kicking and screaming when gnome 2.dx got the boot
[09:54] <KM0201> ZOmBIENiNGA: it's been down a few days..
[09:54] <z3bra> Is gnome 3 iintegrated by default to precise p ?
[09:54] <minimec> nlici: Seems to be a problem with the USB HUB (gessing you have USB printers). When you plug the printer, check the last 5-10 lines of 'dmesg' in a console. It should give you some info about how the device is recognized by the system.
[09:54] <Kriss3d> auroandace well i like to work with my linux. not just install and go facebook & youtube.. but thats the beauty of linux.. you always have a second choise
[09:54] <myhero> km0201: basically i m trying to backup the installed packages so as to install them afterwards like u do when u wanna install on other machine offline...
[09:55] <ZOmBIENiNGA> its nice by them huh XD
[09:55] <oCean> z3bra: ofcourse, since unity is gnome3
[09:55] <nlici> i tried samsung 3200 printer which was working before the upgrade , i tried brother printer , i tried hp 4500 as well it seems that data transfer is done but on the status up it seems like it is stopped . I am using now 4500 hp wireless and it is printing ONLY WITHOUT cable
[09:55] <oCean> ZOmBIENiNGA: can you please stop the offtopic running commentary?
[09:55] <Kriss3d> ocean no its not
[09:55] <z3bra> oCean: Sorry, i mean, gnome-shell
[09:55] <oCean> Kriss3d: it is
[09:55] <ZOmBIENiNGA> sorry
[09:55] <auronandace> !unity
[09:56] <auronandace> its a shell for gnome3, it isn't gnome3 itself
[09:56] <Kriss3d> there is gnome-shell which is gnome 3 which can be made into looking alot like gnome 2
[09:56] <z3bra> Haha, then I was not wrong \o/
[09:56] <recon_lap> got two bloody huge bugs that dont seem to be fixed though, my network manager crashes regularly and requires a reboot, and any usb drive attached causes booting to hang
[09:56] <Narc> Hello everyone, I'm trying to get the function key to work for brightness settings on an Asus K53SD laptop, on 12.04. I tried a lot of tweaks, none of them work. any suggestions ? Thanks
[09:56] <DarwinSurvivor> nlici: are you using a usb hub?
[09:57] <the-erm> myhero: here's a post about backing-up your installed packages. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=819396 From what I'm reading it probably wouldn't be that hard to put it on an external drive of some sort.
[09:57] <z3bra> Then, unity is the only DE on pangolin ?
[09:57] <auronandace> z3bra: the default desktop (unity2d is there too)
[09:57] <KM0201> z3bra: not really, you can install others from the repos..
[09:57] <myhero> the-erm: thnx will look at it...
[09:57] <auronandace> z3bra: but it is trivial to install gnome-shell or any other desktop
[09:57] <z3bra> KM0201: i said 'default' ^^ I know I can ^^
[09:58] <DarwinSurvivor> z3bra: there is also lxde, xfce, kde, gnome-shell, awesome, ratpoison, etc
[09:58] <airdem> i have created a new user and gave him admin rights. but in "language support" the "install new language" option is gray. any ideas?
[09:58] <KM0201> z3bra: i guess i missed default, then yes, it is default in 12.04 (just as it was in 11.10, and 11.04)
[09:58] <z3bra> Okay, thx ;)
[09:58] <DarwinSurvivor> z3bra: if you want a different one as "default", try xubuntu, kubuntu or lubuntu
[09:59] <z3bra> Oh ! Does someone know how to set ratpoison as the default WM in unity or gnome-shell ?
[09:59] <z3bra> Instead of metacity
[09:59] <airdem> and the system is still asking me for the first users password
[09:59] <myhero> the-erm: ur link looks usefull...will look at it and be back if any problems...thnx n 2 km0201 also....
[09:59] <DarwinSurvivor> z3bra: you can't set it as the default IN unity or gnome-shell as ratpoison *replaces* unity or gnome-shell
[09:59] <z3bra> DarwinSurvivor: don't worry, if I want another one, I will manage changing it ^^
[10:00] <DarwinSurvivor> z3bra: you *might* be able to run it with gnome3, but I have no idea if that would even work...
[10:00] <z3bra> DarwinSurvivor: Ratpoison is a Window manager
[10:00] <z3bra> Not a desktop environnement
[10:00] <DarwinSurvivor> z3bra: i know, i've used it (and its derivative stumpwm)
[10:00] <myhero> exit
[10:01] <recon_lap> z3bra: use live CD's to check out your options, would not recommend multi-changes to your live install
[10:01] <DarwinSurvivor> z3bra: actually, I'm not sure if ratpoison IS in pangolin, since it's been discontinued and replaced by stumpwm
[10:02] <z3bra> DarwinSurvivor: Arf, because on Archlinux forum, or elsewhere, I rode someone that had RP as his WM insinde unity
[10:02] <airdem> i have created a new user and both of my users have admin rights now. however while logged in with the second user ubuntu still asks for the password of the first user to install apps etc
[10:02] <publo> hi everyone
[10:03] <z3bra> Maybe I'd better use i3 then...
[10:03] <DarwinSurvivor> z3bra: well, you may be able to use stumpwm with parts of unity (launcher, panel, etc).
[10:03] <publo> just a quick question.
[10:03] <DarwinSurvivor> z3bra: the best way to find out is to try it!
[10:03] <publo> I'm running ubuntu 12 latest version from WUBI on my windows machine
[10:03] <publo> 5GB install
[10:03] <z3bra> DarwinSurvivor: precise upgrading actually ;)
[10:03] <publo> just having a problem i installed Cairo Dock and now i can only see the desktop if I set CairoDock on login
[10:04] <publo> i cant get the stock unity dock etc
[10:04] <skiwithpete> hey, tonight I was updating and the updater crashed.  It says links broken, partial upgrade.
[10:04] <skiwithpete> is there any way to get this working again?
[10:04] <z3bra> DarwinSurvivor: But as i'm on my pro laptop, I prefer being sure of what I do :P
[10:04] <DarwinSurvivor> z3bra: install ubuntu in virtualbox, then you can save the state and try a whole BUNCH of configs and just roll back each time without worrying about it
[10:05] <z3bra> DarwinSurvivor: I'll if I find the time ;)
[10:05] <sirffreddirocco> guys, i've this error on boot intel_dsm_platform_mux_info error mux info call failed
[10:06] <jabr> 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d' does not work on my 10.04 server install. Any ideas why?
[10:06] <z3bra> But actually, upgrade is locking apt-get, I'm felling naked xD
[10:06] <skiwithpete> how do you fix a broken update?
[10:06] <the-erm> jabr: did you apt-get update before you tried that?
[10:07] <jabr> the-erm: yes
[10:07] <the-erm> I got nothing.
[10:07] <paulus68> I am running server 12.04 in VM and for some reason it's not bringing up the 2nd nic automaticly what do I do wrong?
[10:07] <z3bra> How can I update my icon pack WITHOUT logout please ?
[10:08] <pratz> gaelfx: any guess dude ?
[10:08] <the-erm> I had a heck of a time getting it to install from 10.04 as well. and -d worked.
[10:08] <DarwinSurvivor> paulus68: please post a screenshot of virtualbox's network config page, as well as a pastebin of "ifconfig" from the guest machine
[10:10] <diverdude> i am inserting a usb key and ubuntu think its read only....but its not. whats going wrong?
[10:10] <linuxfreaker> Hi Guys
[10:10] <drussell> diverdude: it could be that the usbkey has "worn out"
[10:10] <drussell> diverdude: can you write new files to it from another machine?
[10:10] <paulus68> DarwinSurvivor: it's vmware if that's the same for you
[10:10] <diverdude> drussell: no...works elsewhere
[10:11] <drussell> diverdude: ahh, in that case, not sure what you're seeing
[10:11] <DarwinSurvivor> paulus68: ok, post a screenshot/whatever of vmware's virtual network adapter page/output/whatever
[10:11] <drussell> diverdude: I have seen flash memory go read only when it's at the end of its life
[10:11] <L3top> diverdude: chances are it was uncleanly removed. Unmount it and fsck /dev/sd**
[10:11] <linuxfreaker> I am been trying to install apache2 and getting the test page work and it did work..but if I am followng http://tracmor.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/INSTALL to install tracmor and access http://localhost/tracmor/index.php it simply download the page and not display the page
[10:12] <diverdude> L3top: i think thats more correct
[10:12] <greenit> i have a problem with the DM: when i start, there is the login-screen from the gdm, not from the lightdm, which is standard right now... how can i solve this prob?
[10:12] <linuxfreaker> What should be the reason of page when access being downloaded and not displayed on the screen
[10:12] <drussell> diverdude: sounds likely, good luck
[10:12] <acicula> linuxfreaker: you need to change the apache config to render pages with a php extension using php
[10:13] <linuxfreaker> acicula: Any change in httpd.conf under /etc/apache2
[10:13] <linuxfreaker> acicula: Is it under site-available?
[10:14] <linuxfreaker> acicula: Which file I need to change or add php extension to?
[10:14] <publo> man this is hard to use
[10:14] <publo> how do i uninsstall cairo
[10:14] <anev> what's the difference between running: 'cd /usr/port/some/port && make install clean' and 'cd /usr/port/some/port; make install clean' ?
[10:14] <linuxfreaker> acicula: I can see one file called php5.load
[10:15] <linuxfreaker> acicula: But it only says LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so
[10:15] <Suraj> hi
[10:15] <anev> does it only attempt to run the 'make install clean' if the first part evaluates to true? i.e. the chdir() returns 0 for success?
[10:15] <foobArrr> anev: with && the second command only runs if the first terminates without error
[10:15] <auronandace> Suraj: greetings
[10:15] <anev> foobArrr: ah, cheers
[10:15] <anev> foobArrr: also, sorry, i had meant to direct that to #freebsd :)
[10:16] <Suraj> My wireless adapter is not working in UBUNTU 12.04LTS
[10:16] <darrenlooby> Hello, can anyone help me - I'm looking for an out of box ubuntu NAS ... know of any?
[10:16] <Suraj> what should i do?
[10:16] <DarwinSurvivor> anev: I think you are looking for a BSD channel...
[10:16] <Suraj> Broadcom BCM 43XX driver not working
[10:17] <anev> DarwinSurvivor: yup, as per my comment above :)
[10:17] <publo> how do you make the Login Screen theme the desktop theme in ubuntu 12?
[10:17] <publo> transparent menu bar
[10:17] <irenicus09> anev: how did u accidentally bump into ubuntu channel I wonder lol.
[10:17] <DarwinSurvivor> anev: ah, no worries then :P
[10:17] <anev> irenicus09: was having problems with a ubuntu install over the weekend.. never left the channel :)
[10:17] <Naemdar> Hello all
[10:17] <publo> anyone
[10:17] <irenicus09> anev: then youÅr answer should be: ooops wrong window :P
[10:18] <Suraj> PLZ TELL ME HOW TO FIX THE WIRELESS ADAPTER PRBLM?
[10:18] <Naemdar> I fixed the hd issue I bricked the other 1t and bought a new one that comes ntfs I  now have my movies games and music drive for linux
[10:18] <Suraj> PLZ TELL ME HOW TO FIX THE WIRELESS ADAPTER PRBLM?
[10:18] <FloodBot1> Suraj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:18] <Naemdar> I do have a new inquiry.  What is a good av program to use for ubuntu?
[10:19] <KM0201> Naemdar: av editor, or just a general av?
[10:19] <Naemdar> anti virus
[10:19] <KM0201> oh, i thought you meant audio video
[10:19] <the-erm> I think there is only clam
[10:19] <KM0201> lol
[10:19] <KM0201> !antivirus
[10:20] <KM0201> Naemdar: avast has a decent linux antivirus app.. it's easy to install, but unless you're scanning things before passing them to Windows users, it's more or less useless.
[10:20] <Naemdar> I will be passing the files to my windows machine and by proxy shared over to my ps3
[10:21] <Naemdar> windows hd rather
[10:21] <the-erm> With .desktop files not needing +x I'm surprised someone hasn't tried to create a linux virus.
[10:21] <KM0201> then i'd probably lookk at avast, it seems to be the most robust to me... (i never really got clam to work properly)
[10:21] <jmg> hi all, can someone point me to a guide to how to setup 12.04 with full disk encryption?
[10:21] <eamoc> does anybody know how to change the transparency settings in terminal, to show the desktop?, and not the uppermost window?
[10:21] <jmg> ps, home folder encryption is useless
[10:21] <irenicus09> what about clamav :P
[10:21] <jmg> thanks
[10:21] <Naemdar> thank you I will check that out.
[10:21] <The_BROS> Can anybody help me? I need manual to install Windows in Ubuntu 12.04 by using Virtualbox
[10:22] <the-erm> KM0201: clamav works for me.  I use it to scan all my email.
[10:22] <publo> anyone know much about ubuntu 12s login screen
[10:22] <KM0201> the-erm: i'm nt saying it doesn't work, i just never could get it to work.. could never get it to update
[10:22] <Naemdar> can clam scan incoming files as they come in?
[10:22] <KM0201> (but thats been ages, i admit)
[10:22] <DarwinSurvivor> the-erm: a "virus" is malware that infects other computers with little to no user intervention (using exploits, etc). malware has existed for YEARS (ex: fork-bomb).
[10:22] <DarwinSurvivor> !virtualbox | The_BROS
[10:23] <KM0201> The_BROS: so your'e trying to put Windows, inside virtualbox?..
[10:23] <linuxfreaker> Anyone who can help me with change the apache config to render pages with a php extension using php
[10:23] <oCean> linuxfreaker: how did you install apache2 and the php5 module?
[10:23] <DarwinSurvivor> !lamp | linuxfreaker
[10:23] <KM0201> anybody notice virtualbox.org has been down a few days?
[10:23] <oCean> KM0201: indeed
[10:24] <DarwinSurvivor> KM0201: someone else mentioned it 15 minutes ago
[10:24] <KM0201> oCean: wasn't sure if it was just me
[10:24] <yacc> the-erm: to small population, plus the population is not pure monoculture either. Let me put it differently, Macs are just getting some attention, and they are quite a monoculture.
[10:24] <L3top> Naemdar: You are better off scanning client side with eset nod32 or kaspersky. avast will catch more than clam, but if it is of real concern, you should purchase a good av win side
[10:24] <KM0201> Darwin4Ever: oh, didn't notice
[10:24] <LjL> DarwinSurvivor: that's not really what a virus in the strict sense is though, a virus is a program that replicates
[10:24] <linuxfreaker> oCean: apache2 was already there . All I installed php5 and MysQL through apt-get
[10:24] <reCAPTCHA> Hey! Can flash projects be done on ubuntu? If so, could you point me in the right direction to get started?
[10:24] <DarwinSurvivor> LjL: "replicates", THAT's the word I was looking for! thanks
[10:25] <Naemdar> Windows side I am covered then.  I use avg and will be switching to malware bytes as it came with new computer hardware for free.
[10:25] <auronandace> reCAPTCHA: better to stick to open standards
[10:25] <irenicus09> reCAPTCHA: no offense but I thought flas is dead :P
[10:25] <oCean> linuxfreaker: and the apache2 install is also a regular/normal ubuntu install?
[10:25] <minimec> linuxfreaker: try sudo a2enmod php5
[10:25] <linuxfreaker> oCean: yes
[10:25] <linuxfreaker> minimec: Module php5 already enabled
[10:25] <reCAPTCHA> auronandace: No choice here. Have to learn it.
[10:25] <oCean> linuxfreaker: after the a2enmod, have you restarted apache2?
[10:26] <auronandace> reCAPTCHA: i don't know any open source flash editing tools
[10:26] <minimec> linuxfreaker: Good sign , isn't it... ;) sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart ?
[10:26] <linuxfreaker> minimec: Yes I restarted it
[10:26] <magnus> Hi, I have a 11.10 install, via wubi. I would like to upgrade to 12, but would like to make a backup first. Whats the best way to do a backup, when installed via wubi?
[10:26] <the-erm> sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 will install mod_php
[10:26] <linuxfreaker> minimec:  it went well
[10:26] <linuxfreaker> minimec: Now?
[10:27] <Boreeas_> So, we are trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 in our schol. We are using a network-based approach to user accounts here, where every student get's their own network drive to store data on, and write access to the actual harddrive is denied.
[10:27] <minimec> linuxfreaker: Now I have no more ideas honestly ...
[10:27] <linuxfreaker> minimec: If I browser http://IP/tracmor it simply downloads one file
[10:27] <Boreeas_> How do we set up Ubuntu so it presents a web-login option instead of logging in to the computer?
[10:27] <airdem> ive installed turkish language and placed it on top via drag drop but the user interface and all is still english after relogin
[10:28] <oCean> linuxfreaker: are you sure the apache2 config is a normal/regular ubuntu install/config? Because it would suffice to a2enmod php5 and a restart
[10:28] <oCean> linuxfreaker: are the Include directives in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf? (such as Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/)
[10:28] <the-erm> linuxfreaker: like I said "sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5" will install mod_php for apache.
[10:28] <oCean> linuxfreaker: also, check the error_log e.g. tail /var/log/apache2/error_log
[10:29] <oCean> the-erm: the mod is already installed and enabled
[10:29] <the-erm> oh ok
[10:29] <DarwinSurvivor> linuxfreaker: There doesn't appear to be anyone here experienced with tracmore. I recommend using tracmor's support forum for help
[10:29] <LjL> !info mtasc | reCAPTCHA, i see this, might or might not be useful
[10:29] <linuxfreaker> oCean: One minute...I have Ubuntu running as VM . When I am openign it under VM it does open up but with few errors related to tracmor. Outside Windows machine(which runs this VM) it downloads...seems like web browser compatibility issue
[10:29] <DarwinSurvivor> linuxfreaker: nvm, looks like someone is already helping you
[10:30] <linuxfreaker> DarwinSurvivor: Someone ???
[10:30] <L3top> Boreeas_: I do not understand your question.
[10:31] <zatan> hey how can I add these on file -rw-rw-r--  ?
[10:31] <oCean> linuxfreaker: to test if php *is* enabled and does work, create a file called info.php (see http://privatepaste.com/79a5638223) somewhere in your www home and browse to it
[10:32] <oCean> zatan: chmod 664 filename
[10:32] <linuxfreaker> oCean: Its done now..its fixed
[10:32] <oCean> ow :)
[10:32] <linuxfreaker> oCean: Any idea how to do that Create a MySQL database called 'tracmor' (or another name of your choosing).  On  	this database,  execute first the "create" and then "data" SQL script from the  	tracmor/data_model directory
[10:32] <linuxfreaker> oCean: I have created the database but wonder if I have simply to run those script or run it under database
[10:32] <glaci> Hi all! my ubuntu 10.04LTS was upgreded to 12.04. I got two problems: 1) my usb mouse is "lagging" (touchpad is working welll) 2) cheese (webcam) freezing. I think maybe my graphics card driver is not working well(radeon hd 4250). Any ideas?
[10:32] <oCean> linuxfreaker: sure, but that is quite out of scope for this channel. You could visit #mysql channel or find help with the tracmore maintainers
[10:32] <auronandace> Boreeas: sounds like you want thin clients, i have no idea how to set them up though
[10:33] <L3top> Boreeas_: you mean like an ubuntu one login?
[10:33] <zatan> oCean,  cheers thats worked pefectly, do you know where I can get more information about these privileges ?
[10:33] <oCean> !permissions | zatan
[10:33] <zatan> cheers
[10:33] <zatan> ;]
[10:33] <oCean> yw
[10:34] <the-erm> "man chmod" from the command line will also give you some information.
[10:35] <the-erm> in fact man <just about any shell command> usually produces information.
[10:36] <cordor> why gnome shell work perfectly, but desktop area corrupt under gnome classic? i have to use no effect
[10:37] <countfuzzball> Can anyone recommend a commandline svn that works like the svn that was in natty? Running Precise here.
[10:38] <L3top> subversion? Subversion should be subversion nmw.
[10:38] <publo> how do i get rid of cairo dock
[10:38] <publo> its stuck on the bottom of my screen even though i uninstalled it with software manager
[10:38] <pratz> really guys, there is something wrong with the u12.04 installer
[10:39] <pratz> i can not just install 12.04
[10:39] <txomon|home> use the mini iso
[10:39] <txomon|home> I always install like that
[10:39] <countfuzzball> Oh cool, cheers for that L3top. Must'vve missed it!
[10:39] <tga> greetings
[10:40] <Boreeas_> L3top: Well, Windows has an option where you log in to a network account instead of an account that has been created on the local computer. We are trying to find something that is compatible with this for ubuntu
[10:40] <L3top> Oh yeah... you just want a slim client setup.
[10:40] <tga> apparently choosing the Netherlands as location on a fresh 12.04 install also got me a Dutch keyboard layout
[10:40] <pratz> during installation i get "Internal Error" ,even there is no use description of error
[10:40] <tga> even though I can't see it in the Keyboard panel
[10:40] <tga> any idea where I should look to change that?
[10:41] <Boreeas_> L3top: Great. Can you tell me where I can find a tutorial on how to set this up?
[10:41] <LjL> tga: type "keyboard layout" in unity
[10:41] <tga> no unity here, xfce
[10:41] <pratz> i have debaing cd and it works fine, but when i try to install 12.04 the installer stops , any idea ?
[10:41] <LjL> tga: then i don't know where you find the setting
[10:41] <tga> great
[10:41] <LjL> tga: perhaps try asking in #xubuntu
[10:41] <ogra_> Boreeas, try googling for "active directory on ubuntu" or something like that
[10:41] <oCean> tga: normal installation image has separate questions for country/location and keyboard layout
[10:42] <tga> afaik I chose generic US layout
[10:42] <Boreeas_> ogra_: Thanks
[10:42] <oCean> tga: menu > settings > settings manager > keyboard
[10:42] <demaio> Boreeas_: perhaps read this as an entry point to the topic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication
[10:42] <Boreeas_> demaio: Thanks!
[10:43] <L3top> !ltsp
[10:43] <tga> oCean: XkbKeyboardLayout is US and the keyboard pane shows 102 US
[10:44] <oCean> ogra_: please don't just point others to search google
[10:44] <tga> that's the annoying part, I can't see a non-standard layout anywhere
[10:44] <auronandace> L3top: awesome, nice find
[10:45] <ogra_> oCean, well, the first hit will get him to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto ... which i didnt have the url handy for :)
[10:45] <Lovelesh> how to install apache service in eucalyptus instance help
[10:45] <oCean> ogra_: I did not ask you to explain, I asked you not to do it again, thanks
[10:45]  * ogra_ shakes his head and goes back to work
[10:46] <auronandace> !google
[10:46] <the-erm> why?
[10:46] <ogra_> i didnt ... i told exactly what to google for
[10:46] <Lovelesh> anyone please
[10:47] <the-erm> I'm sorry ... it brings me back to the statment "Question Everything!" "Why?!"
[10:47] <the-erm> Lovelesh: Well if you can get to a shell.  sudo apt-get install apache2 should do it for you.
[10:48] <Lovelesh> error while installing
[10:48] <Lovelesh> i hv tried
[10:48]  * ogra_ leaves support to the supporters and goes back to do what he is paid for so we can have quantal ready for development 
[10:48] <the-erm> Lovelesh: what are the errors?
[10:49] <the-erm> pastebin them.
[10:49] <the-erm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:50] <reCAPTCHA> Hey... off topic... anyone know of a good way to create flash apps on linux?#
[10:50] <Lovelesh> not able to copy paste from terminal
[10:51] <auronandace> reCAPTCHA: try asking in ##linux
[10:51] <Lovelesh> the-erm
[10:51] <reCAPTCHA> Lovelesh: did you try ctrl+alt+c?
[10:51] <oCean> reCAPTCHA: may I suggest #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic questions?
[10:52] <Lovelesh> not working......... reCAPTCHA
[10:53] <reCAPTCHA> Lovelesh: I meant ctrl+shift+c
[10:53] <the-erm> reCAPTCHA: there's MTASC and SWFMill it's not fun doing it but I wrote a player http://the-erm.com/links.php (hover the icon press play)
[10:54] <the-erm> I don't know how to do it either.
[10:54] <the-erm> I don't remember how to do it.
[10:54] <apocalipso> hello, is here exist command which tell path to hard drive (I am not sure if my is: /dev/sda)
[10:56] <BitPuffin> Hello, I need some help. It appears that xvidcap is no longer in the repository so I tried to install it from source but it doesn't work. After running make and all that stuff it's compiled I am supposed to run "make install" but then the following happens: http://pastebin.com/j5PJgTTF I ran it with sudo so it would be able to access stuff outside of /home but it doesn't work
[10:59] <KM0201> how would you create a link to a samba share..... i'm surprised this isn't easier w/ Unity.
[10:59] <auronandace> apocalipso: sudo fdisk -l
[10:59] <apocalipso> auronandace, thx
[11:00] <jellow> I installed a 32 bit system while my system is capable of 64 bit is it worth re-installing?
[11:00] <the-erm> apocalipso: if you're writing a script you can if [ -e "/path/to/file" ] then  do something; fi  http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_07_01.html
[11:00] <auronandace> jellow: if you like
[11:01] <KM0201> jellow: how much RAM do you have?
[11:01] <jellow> KM0201: 4GB
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> jellow  do you have a separate /home partition? if you don't know, then you most probably don't
[11:01] <Darael> Something I've wondered for a while: Is there a way of generating a minimal list of packages to install to get all packages currently installed on a system?
[11:02] <txomon|home> It only depends on how much time you want to expend on it
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> txomon|home  there's mini.iso
[11:02] <IdleOne> !clone | Darael
[11:02] <txomon|home> MonkeyDust, yup, I install with it always, why?
[11:02] <KM0201> jellow: well.. you can only use about 3gigs at a time with 32bit (the pae kernel just allows you to recognize all 4gigs... were 64bit, will allow you to USE all 4gigs at the same time)... it all depends on how much time you have vested in the 32bit install.. what you plan to do, etc..
[11:02] <BitPuffin> Optionally if you can suggest some other program for screencasting that would be nice too. But it would have to be able to save to .avi
[11:03] <Darael> IdleOne: That's not quite what I was after; a number of things, I find, are flagged as manually installed which are, in fact, dependencies of other things that are already installed.
[11:03] <jellow> KM0201: I play minecraft a lot would i make a difference to it ?
[11:03] <txomon|home> Darael, you also can get with dpkg --get-selections
[11:03] <KM0201> jellow: i don't do minecraft, so i don't know
[11:04] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[11:04] <DoctorPepper>  i need some help after upgrading to 12.04  from 11.10  when i  try to install any packages  i get  a long list  of package to autoremove. http://paste.ubuntu.com/957204/   i dont know if can safely remove them  without  breaking my system
[11:04] <Fasthutt> hello, i have a problem with upgrading my ubuntu 10.10 to a newer version. Im trying to upgrade it via 'Update manager' and i get an error 'Authentication failed
[11:04] <txomon|home> jellow, if you have a good graphic card, I would recomend you use a 64 bit
[11:04] <Darael> For example, ed is marked as manually installed on this machine, even though it's a dependency of ubuntu-standard, and the line given by the clone factoid would list it.
[11:04] <IdleOne> Darael: right, but apt considers them manually installed because it asked you if you wanted to install them.
[11:04] <KM0201> Fasthutt: probably because 10.10 is EOL.
[11:04] <auronandace> !eol | Fasthutt
[11:04] <jellow> Ok thank's everyone I'm going to re-install , Thanks!
[11:05] <txomon|home> KM0201, but not the upgrade support
[11:05] <Fasthutt> thank you
[11:05] <KM0201> !eolupgrade
[11:05] <KM0201> !eol
[11:05] <Darael> IdleOne: That's not how I remember it working.  I thought anything for which the /reason/ for installation was that it was a dependency was marked automatically installed.
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> KM0201  better use /msg ubottu to know if a factoid exists
[11:06] <jellow> does flash work on 64 bit anything other I should know?
[11:06] <KM0201> MonkeyDust: i know, i just had it wrong... i knew it was something like that
[11:06] <KM0201> jellow: flash is working fine for me.. YMMV
[11:06] <IdleOne> Darael: I'm not well versed enough to explain or understand it. sorry.
[11:06] <KM0201> jellow: just install the codecs, etc.. during the installation, and it will download/install flash for you.
[11:07] <DoctorPepper> guys any idea  about my  issue ?
[11:07] <Darael> IdleOne: Ah, well.  I know I could get what I want manually, using a similar aptitude command to get a list of packages for aptitude why, but that could take ages... oh, well.
[11:07] <jellow> KM0201: thanks!
[11:07] <Darael> !patience | DoctorPepper
[11:07] <ogra_> Darael, thats the case if you use tasks instead of metapackages
[11:07]  * beata facepaws.
[11:08] <Naemdar> So I am in the process of a new build that is still amd 64 archetecture.  will I have an issue just plugging in the hard drives and turning it on for ubuntu?
[11:08] <nicol> hi
[11:08] <ogra_> Darael, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard vs. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard^   .... (or tasksel install ubuntu-standard)
[11:08] <nicol> today, I compile my gcc-code-assit
[11:08] <nicol> but failed
[11:08] <pratz> hey guys this really suck now , i can not install u12.04
[11:08] <Darael> Naemdar: If you installed with the Alternate or Minimal CDs and chose to use a targeted initrd, yes, but otherwise probably not.
[11:08] <nicol> the attach log is
[11:08] <nicol> ../.././libgcc/../gcc/libgcc2.h:452: error: storage class specified for parameter ‘__paritydi2’
[11:08] <nicol> ../.././libgcc/../gcc/libgcc2.h:452: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration
[11:08] <nicol> ../.././libgcc/../gcc/libgcc2.h:453: error: storage class specified for parameter ‘__parityti2’
[11:08] <nicol> ../.././libgcc/../gcc/libgcc2.h:453: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration
[11:08] <nicol> ../.././libgcc/../gcc/libgcc2.h:456: error: storage class specified for parameter ‘__enable_execute_stack’
[11:08] <nicol> ../.././libgcc/../gcc/libgcc2.c:551: error: expected declaration specifiers before ‘TItype’
[11:08] <nicol> /usr/include/libio.h:464: error: old-style parameter declarations in prototyped function definition
[11:08] <FloodBot1> nicol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:09] <nicol> ../.././libgcc/../gcc/libgcc2.c:562: error: expected ‘{’ at end of input
[11:09] <nicol> /usr/include/libio.h:464: warning: unused parameter ‘__fp’
[11:09] <auronandace> nicol: use a pastebimn
[11:09] <auronandace> nicol: use a pastebin
[11:09] <ogra_> Darael, the first one sets them to manual, the tow latter ones set them to automatic
[11:09] <L3top> DoctorPepper: Often things are installed as dependencies to another install, and are not necessary for operation, or other packages replace the older ones... autoremove will not harm your system.
[11:09] <Darael> ogra_: Are you sure that's the right way round?  Because I installed with the minimal CD, and used the tasksel in that...
[11:09] <Naemdar> cool so the worst possible scenario I have to redo the install for linux,  not a big deal.  I will just learn more about he process.  I love this os it is a constant learning experience for me.
[11:10] <ogra_> Darael, yes, thats what we use to create the images
[11:10] <beata> I just now discovered irc.ubuntu.com is freenode. No wonder nickserv kept messing me up: I had irc.ubuntu.com and irc.freenode.net as separate accounts inside pidgin.
[11:10] <auronandace> DoctorPepper: if you have ppas installed remove them before upgrading
[11:10] <L3top> good call auronandace.
[11:10] <ogra_> Darael, (though we only use apt-get at creation time, not sure, tasksel might have a bug in that regard)
[11:10] <endstille> heyho, just wanted to drop a comment.. :) it is impossible, to install precise final on a system on sdaX, while sdb is a locked drive the setup tries to acces the locked drive... after 6 to 7 minutes i stopped the try, unlocked sdb via reboot and successfully installed to sda.... you can see ti here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hg9rtpnh9to5ljk/Install_SSD.mp4
[11:11] <Darael> ogra_: Hang on.  I'm confused now.  Do tasks mark as automatic, or do metapackages?
[11:11] <Naemdar> Time to power down and prep the hd trays, dvd burner, and gut the fans from the old case to totally fan out the new one.
[11:11] <nicol> http://paste.ubuntu.com/957254/
[11:11] <txomon|home> DoctorPepper, yes
[11:11] <ogra_> Darael, tasks mark as automatic
[11:11] <pratz> can please any one help me to install u12.04
[11:11] <nicol> I am  compile  the gcc-code-assist but failed
[11:11] <Naemdar> from 2 to 6 lol
[11:11] <Jordan_U> !bug | endstille
[11:11] <nicol> who could help me
[11:11] <nicol> http://paste.ubuntu.com/957254/
[11:11] <Darael> ogra_: Because I used tasksel (which uses aptitude, generally, IME), and I have things that I'd expect to be marked automatic flagged as manual.
[11:11] <pratz> the installer gives error every time i try to install
[11:11] <pratz> installer error is "Internal Error" , any ideas ?
[11:11] <ogra_> Darael, no, tasksel and aptitude are two totally different things
[11:12] <Naemdar> Hopefully be back online tomorrow, when the new mobo, processor and ram arrives.  *crosses fingers*
[11:12] <txomon|home> pratz, you can try alternate CD, and if you dont feel anoyed by shell installs, the mini iso
[11:12] <Darael> ogra_: Yes, and tasksel calls aptitude.  I know, because I had a whole episode on amd64 using tasksel because of the aptitude multiarch bug.
[11:12] <ogra_> aptitude is an alternative system to apt-get ... using separate DBs etc
[11:12] <endstille> okay, so i do ubunt-bug ubiquity, once i'm at home again
[11:12] <ogra_> Darael, well, then you might face an aptitude issue
[11:13] <ogra_> i know for sure the apt-get based task install sets everything to automatic
[11:13] <ogra_> (else all ubuntu images woudl end up with the manual flags for all packages :) )
[11:14] <pratz> txomon|home: from where can i download mini iso ??
[11:14] <normatif> how do I add an app I extracted to my home folder to appear on unity app lens?
[11:14] <Darael> My reading of the aptitude manual suggests that /anything/ pulled in as a dependency should be marked as automatic, even though it prompts to confirm the additional installs.  I also understood that more recent versions of aptitude and apt-cli used the same database for such things.
[11:14] <Darael> !minimal | pratz
[11:14]  * ogra_ cant help on aptitude, sorry ... we dont use it anywhere in ubuntu usually 
[11:15] <txomon|home> Darael, stop using aptitude and use apt-get
[11:15] <pratz> txomon|home: dude i do not have internet connection while installing
[11:15] <Darael> ogra_: That's what I /thought/ was the case, but apt-cache depends tasksel shows "Depends: aptitude"
[11:15] <txomon|home> pratz, so use Alternate cd
[11:16] <txomon|home> mini iso + minimal packets == alternate iso
[11:16] <ogra_> Darael, right, as i said above, might be a bug in aptitude
[11:16] <Darael> txomon|home: The issue is that tasksel uses aptitude, and that tasksel is in the text-mode installer, not that I'm using aptitude myself.
[11:16] <pratz> txomon|home: what is difference between the normal and alternate cd ?
[11:16] <txomon|home> pratz, alternate + no-shell gui == normal
[11:16] <auronandace> !alternate
[11:16] <beata> What are you using these days instead of aptitude? (curious)
[11:16] <Imre> Hy guys! Do you know anything about the issue with vsftpd and Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:17] <txomon|home> beata, apt-get
[11:17] <Imre> If I set the folders chmod to a-w ( or anything that allows write ), then I can’t connect. [refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()]
[11:17] <Imre> If I set it to have no write access, then I can join, but for what? I have no write access.
[11:17] <beata> Oh, right. ;)
[11:17] <txomon|home> !apt-get
[11:18] <Darael> txomon|home: I'm fully familiar with apt-get, I just wish the alternate (and minimal) CDs would use it instead of aptitude (although I can see the use of the latter for the "manual package selection" option.
[11:18] <txomon|home> Darael, I discourage you to use that
[11:19] <txomon|home> for me it always gives problems
[11:19] <Darael> txomon|home: I /don't/ use the "manual package selection" option.  I /have/ used the tasksel interface, which /still/ calls aptitude.
[11:20] <lucian> empathy seems broken
[11:20] <lucian> the contact list appears
[11:20] <auronandace> lucian: thats so totally awesome
[11:20] <lucian> but if trying to open the account list doesn't do anything
[11:21] <lucian> neither does clicking on contacts
[11:21] <lucian> could be related to the upgrade
[11:21] <lucian> auronandace: it's common, isn't it?
[11:21] <Darael> As for my original question, what I was after was not a way of cloning my package list but of getting a list of all the manually-installed packages that weren't dependencies of anything, so I could get rid of things that I no longer needed but that "apt-get autoremove" wouldn't see.
[11:21] <ogra_> Darael, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/424643 (pretty pld bug, feel free to drop into #ubuntu-installer if you know a solution :) )
[11:21] <auronandace> lucian: sorry, i tend to use pidgin
[11:21] <ogra_> s/pld/old/
[11:21] <lucian> auronandace: i might have to do that, i guess
[11:21] <pengw> hello all
[11:22] <pengw> one question
[11:22] <Rar9> hi how can I easly update my php 5.3.2 to 5.3.11? Ubuntu 10.04 lts
[11:22] <auronandace> !latest | Rar9
[11:22] <txomon|home> Darael, the best usually is to do it yourself. you can take all the manually selected ones, and filter the not real ones
[11:22] <pengw> currently i am working some code based on opencl. I want to use my favor IDE geany to deal with them but I dont how
[11:23] <Rar9> ubottu what about 5.3.10?
[11:23] <pengw> who know how to configure geany to work with opencl. It should as sample as gcc -lOpenCL hellow.c
[11:24] <Rar9> auronandace what about 5.3.10?
[11:24] <Darael> txomon|home: I know - that's what I'm doing, in conjunction with "aptitude why" (if you can give me an apt-get or apt-cache equivalent, that'd be great, incidentally), I was just hoping for something involving a little less manual effort.
[11:24] <auronandace> Rar9: same applies, you did read what ubottu wrote?
[11:24] <txomon|home> Darael, apt-cache rdepends
[11:25] <txomon|home> or depends
[11:25] <Lucasho> [ ·~ txomon|home·~ ]  - !
[11:25] <txomon|home> Lucasho, ?
[11:25] <Darael> Rar9: The whole point is that the version of a package in any given Ubuntu release is likely to be constant.  See if it's in backports, or a ppa, or a newer release, or compile it yourself (in descending order of preference).
[11:25] <Lucasho> [ ·~ txomon|home·~ ]  - como estas viejo ?
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> !es
[11:26] <LjL> Lucasho: this is a support channel, please take chit-chat to PM or #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:26] <Darael> txomon|home: Not the same; aptitude why gives results based on what else is installed, apt-cache (r)depends just gives a dependency list, which is /much/ more effort to work out.
[11:26] <lucian> hmm, telepathy-mission control keeps crashing now
[11:27] <Darael> Well, I know where to find libapt; I suppose I could always write it myself.
[11:28] <ogra_> Darael, well, the "right" way to install a task is apt-get install taskname^ (note the caret) ... and i actually thought tasksel uses that in the backend since a while ... i might be wrong though
[11:28] <ogra_> (someone in #ubuntu-installer might know though)
[11:28] <Darael> ogra_: Maybe it does in Precise.  It certainly doesn't in Oneiric.
[11:29] <bookpage> hey, i've got a problem. I believe one of my display config files has become orphan'd and my recovery mode won't display anything. How can I do a full disk check to find the orphaned file and fix it?
[11:29] <Lucasho> [ ·~ lucian·~ ]  - holaaa :D
[11:29] <lucian> Lucasho: ?
[11:29] <txomon|home> did the same to me
[11:29] <Lucasho> [ ·~ Lucasho·~ ]  - que tal ? :D
[11:30] <BitPuffin> What does the ubuntu screencast team use to record their videos?
[11:32] <dvl305> sup
[11:32] <maxiepax> if i edit /boot/grub/grub.conf and change the location of initrd from /dev/disk/by-id/asdasdsa to /dev/sda1 (will be using ghost to deploy multiple servers), do i need to re-run grub-install or is it enough to just edit the file?
[11:32] <lalala> hellow
[11:32] <lalala> so this is the help channel ?
[11:32] <Darael> maxiepax: You're still using grub1?
[11:33] <pengw> Hi all which file is the configure file as bashrac for every user?
[11:33] <maxiepax> Darael: hmm.. not sure, its not ubuntu however, this is a general grub question.
[11:35] <Lucasho> [ ·~ txomon|home·~ ]  - pv !
[11:35] <trashi> hi. i try to setup a cron job. ps ax sais, cron is running. i tried crontab -e and editing a new file in /etc/cron.d/whatever but it doesnt work. the cron simply does not start and i have no idea why. could please take a look -> 33 13     * * *     root   /root/backup.sh > /dev/null (this is just a test so of course i fix the time from one test to the next)
[11:36] <gaelfx> my two-finger scrolling is working in other applications, but not in nautilus, any ideas why that might be?
[11:36] <txomon|home> trashi, try tail -f /var/log/syslog and see what it says
[11:36] <krababbel> maxiepax: probably grub-update needed, not sure
[11:37] <trashi> txomon|home: i did ... it sais nothing ...- thats the reason why i know, the cronjob didnt start
[11:38] <txomon|home> trashi, check the cron syntax
[11:38] <txomon|home> man 5 crontab
[11:39] <tom95> I have a new installation von ubuntu12.04. after some restarts it suddenly looked like this http://imagebin.org/210357 , I had no background and most of the keyboardshortcuts weren't working anymore. Any idea what could have caused this? I don't think I did anything wrong.
[11:39] <txomon|home> trashi, you know you should be at minute 13 and second 33, don't you?
[11:40] <lalala> is there anyone who can help me find the bottleneck in my home network ?
[11:40] <lalala> *2 pcs only
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| lalala
[11:41] <trashi> txomon|home:  well, 33 13     * * * = minute 33, hour 13 ... isnt it?
[11:41] <txomon|home> MonkeyDust, he did
[11:41] <IdleOne> lalala: ##networking might be a better place to ask
[11:41] <lalala> thx
[11:41] <bookpage> okay, how about: best software for finding/fixing orphasns without going into recovery mode
[11:41] <txomon|home> trashi, true
[11:42] <txomon|home> trashi, I would suggest you put * * * * * for the moment
[11:42] <trashi> txomon|home: i will try
[11:42] <txomon|home> trashi, its just to see it gets fired
[11:43] <trashi> jep
[11:43] <Darael> txomon|home, ogra_:  Incidentally, I found something that looks very much like what I was after in deborphan.  Thanks for your suggestions.
[11:43] <ogra_> :)
[11:44] <txomon|home> Darael, link?
[11:44] <Darael> !info deborphan
[11:44] <trashi> txomon|home: works ... Apr 30 11:43:01 test CRON[1718]: (root) CMD (echo "test")
[11:45] <trashi> txomon|home: could it be a problem, my script is in /root directory?
[11:45] <Darael> txomon|home: Lists installed packages with no installed reverse dependencies, or that's what the extended description suggests.
[11:45] <txomon|home> Darael, but, apt detects automatically those ones
[11:45] <txomon|home> ahmmm
[11:45] <Darael> txomon|home: No, apt only automatically detects those where they were pulled in as dependencies of something else.  Deborphan, if I read it aright, will pick up ones that weren't.
[11:45] <txomon|home> trashi, don't really know, haven't tried :D
[11:46] <dexcitrix> wow, freenode/ubuntu has some major userbase compared to ircnet :)
[11:46] <trashi> txomon|home: i will check it
[11:48] <sirriffsalot_> Hey! I'm using unity and I would really like to remove the "workspace switcher" option in the panel... How would I do that?
[11:49] <Darael> txomon|home: A quick test (deborphan -a | most) suggests it does what I wanted - it's picking up even things that were manually installed.
[11:50] <Darael> OK, next irritating question:  How do I do the equivalent of "aptitude markauto" with apt-(get|cache)?
[11:51] <trashi> txomon|home: works also from /root ... thanks for your help  for first ... i try to debug it and work that out
[11:51] <L3top> Darael: apt-mark markauto
[11:52] <Darael> L3top: Ah, apt-mark.  Right, I'd missed that.  Thanks.
[11:52]  * Darael looks up the manpage.
[11:53] <gaelfx> my two-finger scrolling is working in other applications, but not in nautilus, any ideas why that might be?
[11:55] <TomLM> How do i kill "wpa_supplicant"?
[11:55] <Darael> TomLM: Are you sure you want to?  What are you actually trying to achieve?
[11:56] <Darael> TomLM: A "sudo killall wpa_supplicant" should do it if you're absolutely sure that's what you want, but may not be the best course.
[11:56] <TomLM> Dareal, I need to run "airdrop" to see if i can bypass my own network's security.
[11:56] <TomLM> And thanks.
[11:57] <Darael> If it's running, though, it's probably doing so as a result of something else.  Have you stopped network-manager?
[11:57] <TomLM> It booted itself up. :S
[11:57] <TomLM> Nope.
[11:57] <Darael> TomLM: Might want to do that, then.  "sudo stop network-manager".
[11:57] <bookpage> Darael, i mean orphan files. is that possible? or am i thinking of orphan'd processes?
[11:58] <Darael> TomLM: Don't forget to "sudo start network-manager" when you're done, or your networking applet will stop working until you do (or until you reboot)
[11:58] <TomLM> Darael, Thanks it worked! :)
[11:58] <Dr_willis> isent it sudo service SERVICVENAME start     or similer..
[11:59] <Dr_willis> brb
[11:59] <redact3d> ntern0t
[11:59] <Darael> bookpage: I'm sorry, my reference to deborphans was my own problem (finding orphaned packages).  I don't think I can help with yours.
[12:00] <DarsVaeda> hi, I get this when starting eclipse after 12.04 update: Application "org.eclipse.ui.ide.workbench" could not be found in the registry.
[12:00] <wadechandler> Is the Unity Shell open source? Looking at the contribute page I didn't immediately see information about it. I just want to figure out how to contribute patches to it and also to find its sources and review them. I have to get it working better for laptops/desktops and multiple monitors and talk to the devs of it etc.
[12:03] <z3bra> hi all
[12:03] <z3bra> !
[12:04] <Dr_willis> howdies
[12:04] <Darael> z3bra: Greetings.  Don't mean to sound rude, but this is the support channel.  If thou'dst like to chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic.  If thou hast a question, of course, feel free to ask.
[12:05] <z3bra> Darael: maybe I join to help others, but I'm quite polish ;)
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> thou art polish
[12:05] <troulouliou_dev> Hi ambiance the in gnome classic is white now is it a bug ?
[12:06] <Dr_willis> troulouliou_dev,  theres some quirk that makes the menus background black or white dependong on how they were called i read.
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> troulouliou_dev  that's radiance, ambiance is black
[12:06] <Dr_willis> troulouliou_dev,  the webupd8 site has a bit of a work around for it - if thats the issue
[12:06] <chandru_in> I installed 12.04 and when I run eclipse, there is no entry in launcher and it does not show up in alt+tab
[12:07] <Dr_willis> eclipse always seem to be weird. ;) wonder why that is.
[12:07] <myhero> i made a backup of installed packages with aptoncd....but i didnt burn it instead i havethe backup.iso so now if i fresh install then how to restore packages from this backup.iso assuming that if its a fresh install then there wil not be aptoncd installed ?
[12:07] <mraxilus> for ubuntu cloud, is the graphics processing done on the server or the client's machine?
[12:07] <acer-ubuntu> l3top: i am here now to ask
[12:07] <troulouliou_dev> Dr_willis, i have it black on one laptop and white on mine , guess it is a bug will check the site
[12:07] <chandru_in> Dr_willis, Any known workaround for this?
[12:08] <greenmang0> is default "umask" value for ubuntu 12.04 "0002" ?
[12:08] <fulat2k> hi folks, how good is the hardware detection for Macbook Pro in 12.04?
[12:08] <myhero> i made a backup of installed packages with aptoncd....but i didnt burn it instead i have the backup.iso so now if i fresh install then how to restore packages from this backup.iso assuming that if its a fresh install then there wil not be aptoncd installed ?
[12:09] <L3top> myhero: you can loop mount the iso... or burn it...
[12:09] <myhero> l3top: loop means what ?
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> myhero  open aptoncd and choose restore
[12:10] <myhero> if i fresh install then there will not be aptoncd installed
[12:10] <acer-ubuntu> I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop, and am now trying to get it to run. In the grub menu, if I load it normally, all I get is a black screen. In order for it to boot successfully, I have to edit the menu item and add 'nomodeset'. With this, Ubuntu boots up.
[12:10] <acer-ubuntu> Is there a fix for this, so that I don't have to constantly add the nomodeset? I tried to install the proprietary drivers but I still had the same problem
[12:10] <z3bra> myhero: just install it before retriving your packages
[12:10] <Dr_willis> chandru_in,  i just recall eclipse being weird even on the 11.10 release with similer issues. I imagine its due to how its being called/ran as a bash script calling a java app. but i never use the app
[12:10] <chandru_in> ok
[12:11] <myhero> mount how to install .deb packages ?
[12:11] <acer-ubuntu> anyone can help me?
[12:11] <Daiz|> acer-ubuntu, having the same problem as you atm, it's so sad.
[12:11] <myhero> where can i get a virtual drive mounting package for ubuntu
[12:11] <Dr_willis> acer-ubuntu,  install the drivers for your video card, or try adding the nomodeset to the default optiuons in /etc/default/grub (i think)
[12:11] <L3top> myhero: man mount
[12:11] <Daiz|> Dr_willis, what if the drivers are already installed after using 12.04beta?
[12:12] <z3bra> acer-ubuntu: Edit yout /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:12] <myhero> l3top: ok
[12:12] <acer-ubuntu> Dr_willis,: where to find driver for my video card, i didnt find it
[12:12] <Dr_willis> Daiz|,  for my nvidia system. i had to use nomodeset untill i got the drivers installed.
[12:12] <z3bra> acer-ubuntu: And add "nomodeset" at the end of your entry
[12:12] <airdem> why am i only able to change the lang symwide but not per user?ste
[12:12] <L3top> does grub2 use menu.lst?
[12:12] <Dr_willis> z3bra,  ubuntu uses grub2 now...
[12:12] <airdem> *systemwide
[12:12] <myhero> can backups of one version will be allowed to install on other version of ubuntu like backups of 11.10 on 12.04
[12:12] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: what GPU?
[12:12] <Daiz|> Dr_willis, It's a laptop with integrated intel atom, I can only boot to my second OS.
[12:13] <z3bra> Dr_willis: my bad, reflex from my other distro ^^
[12:13] <acer-ubuntu> z3bra: nomodeset is bad view, looks like open program in safe mode
[12:13] <wadechandler> acer-ubuntu: did you look in /var/log/X.org.*.log? There might be a specific message. Usually I do some googling with those and find workarounds.
[12:13] <Dr_willis> Daiz|,  odd.  My intel netbook works good with 12.04
[12:13] <Daiz|> Dr_willis, it worked fine on beta, then after the final, boom black screen after logging in, and then the HDD got corrupted.
[12:13] <acer-ubuntu> wadechandler: i dont understand, i am newbie
[12:14] <myhero> can backups of one version will be allowed to install on other version of ubuntu like backups of 11.10 on 12.04 ???
[12:14] <Dr_willis> Daiz|,  no ideea then. check the bug reports perhaps maybe a known issue.
[12:14] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: what is GPU?
[12:14] <vitor-br> My unity does not load at login? someone has this problem?
[12:14] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[12:14] <L3top> in a terminal acer-ubuntu
[12:14] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: okay
[12:14] <L3top> Paste teh output here
[12:14] <L3top> the*
[12:14] <myhero> can backups of one version will be allowed to install on other version of ubuntu like backups of 11.10 on 12.04 ???
[12:15] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[12:15] <L3top> myhero: I would not expect much success with that.
[12:15] <myhero> l3top: how is 12.04
[12:15] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: this is what i get in terminal, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07)
[12:16] <wadechandler> when you get a screen up, run a terminal, and then cd to /var/log and ls -lsda X*. Look through those files looking for error messages. If you have a really hard time with it, you can email me at online@wadechandler.com and be sure and attach your logs. I might be able to help. No promises...deps on what is in the logs.
[12:16] <Marzata> 12.04 is awesome. Thank you, Mark!
[12:16] <z3bra> acer-ubuntu: did you installed private pilots ?
[12:16] <myhero> marzata: ok
[12:17] <acer-ubuntu> z3bra: what u mean private pilot ?
[12:17] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel i965-va-driver libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
[12:17] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel i965-va-driver libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
[12:17] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: i will try
[12:17] <Daiz|> L3top, will that work in the recovery console?
[12:17] <z3bra> That's what I meant ^^ haha
[12:17] <wadechandler> 12.04 is awesome except for unity. On a laptop or desktop ... at least for this programmer ... it is less productive because of the whole left side of the screen biz and application window switching is a pain...i.e. I'm in one app and want to go to another app and a specific window...using only the mouse.
[12:18] <wadechandler> Other than that though I would love unity I think
[12:18] <L3top> Sorry... will what work Daiz|?
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> !nounity| wadechandler
[12:18] <Daiz|> L3top, the commands? I'm having the same problem as acerubuntu.
[12:18] <fidel_> productivity & mouse? ;)
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> wadechandler  i don't like/use Unity either
[12:18] <L3top> Daiz|: that was specific to his gpu. give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[12:19] <Marzata> !xfce
[12:19] <wadechandler> ubottu: I'm on 12.04 now
[12:19] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: should i restart my laptop now after installing driver which you gave ?
[12:19] <airdem> where do i have to copy this http://pastebin.com/3U8tvRr0 to get lang working?
[12:19] <myhero> L3top: this is another method to backup the files, please go through it...in the 3rd command after making the dir i m getting the fatal error...please resolve it - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=819396
[12:19] <L3top> !pastebinit | Daiz|
[12:19] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: yes
[12:19] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: okay
[12:19] <wadechandler> does work better on multi mon setup, but still MUCH less productive...if I could find the unity sources and find the devs to communicate with i'm sure I could help make it better
[12:20] <Marzata> !xfce | wadechandler
[12:20] <ThePendulum> Yesterday, I installed Ubuntu on a laptop. However, it boots and shows the purple screen for a short amount of time, before going black. If I boot in recovery mode, only half the screen is "usable" (lots of graphical artifacts). This last graphics mode was already present during installation, but I hoped it would fix itself after the installation. I've tried booting with nomodeset, but it didn't help.
[12:20] <Daiz|> That command doesn't even work L3top, I'm on lubuntu 11.10
[12:20] <L3top> so in recovery Daiz|, apt-get install pastebinit       then lspci -nn | grep VGA | pastebinit
[12:20] <myhero> Xubuntu Xfce is better or ubuntu Gnome ?
[12:20] <Darael> !best | myhero
[12:20] <Marzata> myhero: yes
[12:20] <L3top> Yes it does Daiz|. Check spelling.
[12:20] <airdem> where do i have to copy this http://pastebin.com/3U8tvRr0 to get lang working?
[12:20] <fidel_> myhero: different
[12:21] <wadechandler> Marzata: would use xfce, but right now there are things which hinder me such as QT/KDE applications don't blend in well. At least they didn't when I tried a few months back.
[12:21] <ThePendulum> myhero: None of them is 'better', is a matter of preference or performance requirements on older systems
[12:21] <z3bra> Does anyone have a great expenrience (or just managed to...) with changing metacity to another WM on 12.04 ?
[12:21] <ThePendulum> myhero: *it is
[12:21] <Daiz|> L3top, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:a011]
[12:21] <Darael> !anyone | z3bra
[12:22] <Marzata> myhero: on the top of this, Xubuntu is much more stylish.
[12:22] <L3top> yes Daiz| same exact line.
[12:22] <L3top> Daiz|:  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel i965-va-driver libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri
[12:22] <Daiz|> Thanks. will try that when I get home.
[12:22] <myhero> marzata: ok thnx 4 advice...i'll try xubuntu 2
[12:22] <ThePendulum> myhero: I'd say, try both. I've tried Xubuntu while Unity was still a bit shitty (sorry). As of 12.04 , I switched back to Ubuntu. I've had similar great experiences with both Gnome in 12.04 (or Gnome 2 in the past) and the latest Xfce.
[12:23] <z3bra> Darael: *In order to tell me which WM, if integration is good, if it was hard to manage, etc
[12:23] <L3top> Daiz|: wait... that isnt correct
[12:23] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: it doesnt work, my laptop still blank, i should change it to nomodeset to see my latop
[12:24] <Daiz|> :(
[12:24] <ThePendulum> Anyone on my laptop issue?
[12:24] <Dr_willis> z3bra,  what wm are you wanting to us4e exactly?
[12:24] <L3top> Daiz|: I forgot that you are on 11.10...  that is the target version yes?
[12:24] <Darael> z3bra: I gathered, but still.  Better to just ask that - eg "I'm looking for advice on replacing metacity on 12.04 - what should I replace with, and how easy is it?".  It's amazing how much faster the answers roll in.
[12:24] <Daiz|> L3top, the line is correct, as I will boot up with 12.04LTS in recovery.
[12:24] <wadechandler> ThePendulum: could you repost? hard to find it in the stream
[12:24] <Gnea> ThePendulum: what issue?
[12:24] <myhero> ThePendulum: thnx for advice....
[12:24] <Daiz|> or am i wrong?
[12:25] <Marzata> myhero: we migrated to Xubuntu last October, and we must say it is better then the old Ubuntu + Gnome2.
[12:25] <z3bra> Dr_willis: my first choice go to openbox or ratpoison
[12:25] <ThePendulum> wadechandler, Gnea: Yesterday, I installed Ubuntu on a laptop. However, it boots and shows the purple screen for a short amount of time, before going black. If I boot in recovery mode, only half the screen is "usable" (lots of graphical artifacts). This last graphics mode was already present during installation, but I hoped it would fix itself after the installation. I've tried booting with nomodeset, but it didn't help.
[12:25] <Dr_willis> z3bra,  if you install the openbox package it used to add a entry for 'openbox gnome' in the login screen menus.. not sure if it still does.
[12:25] <moz_> hi, simple-scan starts only if launched by root. Otherwise I get a segmentation fault (core dump) error. Any hint?
[12:26] <Dr_willis> z3bra,  you could always make your own custome session, or use the 'openbox' session it creates
[12:26] <z3bra> I know they are completely opposed, but I like them a lot as standalone =) And I'd like to know if they can have a great integration with unity or gnome-shell
[12:26] <z3bra> Dr_willis: I know, But I don't want to use them as standalone WM
[12:26] <acer-ubuntu> l3top: i am back now, and my laptop still blank if i dont use nomodeset, is there any way to view my laptop such as regular?
[12:26] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: That is perplexing. I will have to check a couple of things
[12:26] <L3top> one moment
[12:27] <Darael> z3bra: gnome-shell pretty much /is/ a window manager, so no help there.  Unity is rather too tightly tied to compiz-and-metacity, at a guess.
[12:27] <wadechandler> ThePendulum: I would look in /var/log/X*.log and see if anything jumps out. Usually will see messages with (EE) for error.
[12:27] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: what is perplexing?
[12:27] <L3top> That you are having gpu issues with compiz with those drivers in place acer-ubuntu.
[12:28] <z3bra> Darael: So no possibility of evolution/customization of unity or gnome-shell in that way...? :/
[12:28] <acer-ubuntu> L3top; i hope u get the answer soon :)
[12:28] <wielkifreeman> hello, Can I install Unity on kubuntu 12.04
[12:28] <wielkifreeman> ?
[12:28] <wadechandler> ThePendulum: might help you track down something specific. Too, lspci and get your card. Then, do some googling to see if anyone else has the same issue with that specific card and 12.04. Usually how i find those type issues. Sometimes I take my X config file down to a minimum to get something that will load and then tweak it slowly on systems which have issues like that. Sometimes it will be one little thing that breaks it.
[12:28] <Darael> z3bra: Not AIUI.
[12:28] <ThePendulum> wadechandler: Let me try that
[12:28] <z3bra> AIUI ?
[12:28] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: lets try creating an xorg.conf
[12:29] <Dr_willis> z3bra,  unity is a compiz plugin.. and compiz is a window manager.. now unity-2d perhaps...
[12:29] <Darael> wielkifreeman: That's pretty much equivalent to running KDE apps on Ubuntu 12.04, so I don't see why not.
[12:29] <ThePendulum> wadechandler: If I only knew what graphics card this thing uses
[12:29] <Darael> z3bra: As I Understand It.
[12:29] <jthing> wielkifreeman, don't choose one or the other two windowmanagers isbegging for trouble
[12:29] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: how then?
[12:29] <z3bra> Dr_willis: Oh yes true, I had forgotten it ^^
[12:29] <Gallomimia> oh my. why does my system tell me it might be in an unstable state?
[12:29] <Darael> Dr_willis: Considering z3bra mentioned replacing metacity, I assumed unity-2d from the start.
[12:29] <moz_> hi, simple-scan starts only if launched by root. Otherwise I get a segmentation fault (core dump) error. Any hint?
[12:29] <wadechandler> ThePendulum: just run lspci and you can find it.
[12:29] <wadechandler> from a terminal
[12:30] <Gallomimia> i'm desperately spamming apt-get update dist-upgrade and things are happening. no idea if i'll be able to boot this system again
[12:30] <Dr_willis> I thought unity-2d used mutter.. or was that gnome-shell... i get so confused
[12:30] <KM0201> jthing: how is that? (asking for trouble)
[12:30] <z3bra> gnome-shell use mutter
[12:30] <Darael> Dr_willis: Pretty sure that's gnome-shell.
[12:30] <jthing> wielkifreeman, In particular the 3D thin in unity is a issue. Maybe the 2D is less troblesome
[12:30] <z3bra> OH YEAH !!!
[12:30] <z3bra> Update finished !
[12:30] <z3bra> Let reboot then ^^
[12:30] <Dr_willis> we seem to be getting away from the 'window manager' vs 'file manager/desktop icon manager' type seperation we had in years past.
[12:31] <wielkifreeman> Dareal, jting I found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/127698/how-can-i-install-unity-in-kubuntu-12-04 and I would ask expert before install unity
[12:31] <ThePendulum> wadechandler: It only returns the vendor, which is Intel it says (which I find strange)
[12:31] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: You will either need to stop lightdm or boot to a recovery console and type: Xorg -configure       this will dump a file called xorg.conf.new in /home/username I believe... you will then cp /home/username/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:31] <Gallomimia> if i see this bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/798462 can I run some commands to be reasonably sure it got fixed?
[12:32] <myhero> thnx marzata and thependulum...
[12:32] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: how to boot to a recovery console?
[12:32] <ThePendulum> myhero: np
[12:33] <myhero> thependulum: what about kubuntu ?
[12:33] <IdleOne> Gallomimia: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade - That should update the package unless it has already been updated on your system.
[12:33] <Marsjanin> Hello guys. WTF with flashplugin?
[12:33] <KM0201> Marsjanin: what about it? works fine here
[12:33] <Darael> wielkifreeman: the tab key will autocomplete a nick, helping thee to spell my name (it's a before e) and enabling my client to get my attention because my name came up.  I nearly missed that!
[12:33] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: you can hold space during boot... then select it... I believe that will dump you in as root though, so it will create the xorg.conf.new in /root
[12:33] <vitor-br> My unity does not load at login? someone has this problem?
[12:34] <Gallomimia> IdleOne: it tells me something failed while running do-release-upgrade. did i get everything fixed?
[12:34] <ThePendulum> myhero: Same story, you have to try it to see if you like it. I'm more fond of Xubuntu myself, but I know a lot of people like Kubuntu of Xubuntu. The best way is always to go out there and see for yourself.
[12:34] <Dr_willis> vitor-br,  what does it do exactly?
[12:34] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: or you can type sudo service lightdm stop and it should kill X.
[12:34] <ThePendulum> myhero: It's all just Ubuntu wearing a jacket in a certain colour
[12:34] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: okay, i will restart my laptop now, and hit space bar when booting
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> myhero  ubuntu classic looks much like gnome2
[12:35] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: are you on the machine in here that you are trying to fix?
[12:35] <ThePendulum> myhero: If you want the Gnome 2 look, I
[12:35] <vitor-br> Dr_willis the unity does not load when I login .. need to run "Unity - replace" to appear ..
[12:35] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: yes
[12:35] <jthing> So oddly does the #D version
[12:35] <L3top> Ok... see you in a few
[12:35] <Darael> wielkifreeman: Sounds like the questioner encountered a dependency bug.
[12:35] <myhero> thependulum: ok thnx...jacket thing is very gud to make something understand better...made me clear about concept of xubuntu kubuntu n ubuntu
[12:35] <ThePendulum> myhero: 've had the best experience with Xubuntu and 30 minutes of modification
[12:35] <sambagirl> morning i am running 1010 and i installed lamp and i also installed a no-ip type thingy. it starts up on boot. how do i disable it so i can start it independently? where is the startup apps located
[12:36] <sambagirl> opps wrong channel sorry
[12:36] <IdleOne> Gallomimia: I got to run but paste the error to paste.ubuntu.com and see if someone else here can give you a hand.
[12:36] <sambagirl>  morning i am running 1010 and i installed lamp and i also installed a no-ip type thingy. it starts up on boot. how do i disable it so i can start it independently? where is the startup apps located
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> sambagirl  10.10 is eol
[12:36] <ThePendulum> sambagirl: Wrong channel, again :P
[12:36] <jthing> After many misguided attempts, I will not try to customize the default behaviour this time. The last two times ubuntu 3D failed within 2 days and never worked again
[12:36] <Gallomimia> it gave me this launchpad bug report: https://launchpad.net/bugs/798462
[12:36] <IdleOne> Gallomimia: make sure to give us the url of the paste when done :)
[12:36] <sambagirl> i am asking a question has nothing to do with eol or doa
[12:36] <sambagirl> or lsd or pcp or thc
[12:36] <Gallomimia> o0
[12:37] <L3top> sambagirl: you should look at /etc/init.d  if it is there you can update-rc.d -f remove <script>
[12:37] <sambagirl> i just need to know where the startup stuff is
[12:37] <myhero> thependulum: yea u were telling about 30 mins of modification
[12:37] <IdleOne> sambagirl: 10.10 is no longer supported.
[12:37] <Marsjanin> KM0201: About a week before upgrading to 12.04, having 11.10, there appeared update of Flash. After installing that, there was black or white screen instead of .swf content. No flash games, no youtube movies. I tried installing APT from Adobe site, I tried to install again the flashplugin-installer, it downloads and installs, but didn't work. I'm using Firefox. There was another update of...
[12:37] <Marsjanin> ...flash before system upgrade, and I think another during system upgraade. Both changes nothing.
[12:37] <freewayzify> helo pals
[12:37] <wielkifreeman> Darael, thank, You think that I can install unity and 3d unity will work, I try
[12:37] <ThePendulum> myhero: If you install TeamViewer or something, I am happy to customize Xfce for you so it looks Gnome 2-ish
[12:38] <Marsjanin> KM0201: All that greping commands shows it is flash installed.
[12:38] <myhero> thependulum: ok i'll do it....but can we private chat for some time ?
[12:38] <Darael> sambagirl: We can't really help unless we know what the "no-ip type thingy" was.  I'm not even sure what /type/ of thing that's meant to be.  Additionally, 10.10 is EOL and thou /art/ more likely to get support if using a currently-supported version, so I recommend upgrading.
[12:38] <sambagirl> it's a dynip type thing Darael
[12:38] <KM0201> Marsjanin: what version of ubuntu are you using?... 11.10, or 12.04?
[12:38] <sambagirl> it provides static ip for dynamic ips
[12:38] <sambagirl> it was a test
[12:39] <sambagirl> nevermibnd i found the place
[12:39] <myhero> thependulum: ?????
[12:39] <sambagirl> thanks
[12:39] <ThePendulum> myhero: Yes?
[12:39] <blurp> I just upgraded to 12.04 and it screwed up my jack connections menu.
[12:39] <blurp> was using ubuntu studio.
[12:39] <gaelfx> my two-finger scrolling is working in other applications, but not in nautilus, any ideas why that might be?
[12:39] <Gallomimia> richardn online?
[12:40] <Marsjanin> KM0201: Now 12.04, but that started before upgrade and upgrade didn't fix that.
[12:40] <blurp> now my boot screen is for lxde instead of ubuntu studio for some reason, and sometimes it's ubuntu's screen.
[12:40] <myhero> thependulum: check my pvt msg
[12:40] <Darael> gaelfx: In my thoroughly amateur opinion, that sounds like a bug.
[12:41] <Darael> !pm | myhero
[12:41] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: i have tried to hit space bar when booting, and it beep so loud
[12:41] <KM0201> Marsjanin: try this... go to adobe.com, click downloads, click get flash player, and where it says "Select version to download" choose ".tar.gz for Linux" and download it.
[12:41] <L3top> sambagirl: was the place /etc/init.d ?   because you will want to properly remove it from the runlevels using the format I gave you.
[12:42] <BitPuffin> Well this is very annoying
[12:42] <Marsjanin> KM0201: and? Unpack it where?
[12:42] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: and?
[12:42] <KM0201> Marsjanin: just for now, unpack it where it is.
[12:42] <KM0201> there's only two files in there
[12:42] <steveccc> i am looking for a graphics app to draw website sitemaps where objects (circles) have connectors (legs) which move around and automatically space themselves out etc. Similar to visio on windows. Can anyone recommend anything
[12:43] <katuelone> why channel ubuntu in spanish ????
[12:43] <BitPuffin> I rely on xvidcap for work because it is the only screencaster I know that records to AVI.. And it's removed from the repo and doesn't compile from source. What a bummer
[12:43] <Marsjanin> KM0201: I'll try
[12:43] <myhero> i dont usually do pm but regarding guidelines sometimes so that it doesn't affects others
[12:43] <popey> BitPuffin: tried kazam
[12:43] <acer-ubuntu> l3top: and it failed, i still cant see my screen in splash screen, i have to use nomodeset always
[12:43] <magnus> Hi, I have a 11.10 install, via wubi. I would like to upgrade to 12, but would like to make a backup first. Whats the best way to do a backup, when installed via wubi?
[12:43] <popey> BitPuffin: we removed xvidcap because it was dead developmentally, kazam is very active
[12:43] <KM0201> Marsjanin: after its unpacked... there's a file, "libflashplayer.so" right click it, and choose copy.  then go to /home/username   click View/Show Hidden Files and directory
[12:44] <L3top> !calligraflow | steveccc
[12:44] <BitPuffin> popey, it only saves to webM and h.264 though. None of them can be opened in Vegas 10. And unfortunately lightworks isn't here yet so I have to use it
[12:44] <popey> BitPuffin: you can easily convert them with ffmpeg
[12:44] <L3top> steveccc: check out calligraflow
[12:44] <Darael> steveccc: kivio or dia.
[12:44] <popey> BitPuffin: or use a GUI tool like winff
[12:45] <Darael> steveccc: For future reference, http://osalt.com can be really useful!
[12:45] <steveccc> thanks all - will have a look at them now
[12:45] <BitPuffin> popey, doesn't that result in a big quality loss?
[12:45] <popey> BitPuffin: no
[12:45] <popey> BitPuffin:  you can specify options which keep quality
[12:45] <Marsjanin> KM0201: what for the .so in my home?
[12:45] <popey> BitPuffin: also, very latest unstable kazam has avi recording ☺
[12:45] <popey> BitPuffin: also, latest kazam has lossless (raw) recording too
[12:45] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: What failed? You created the xorg.conf and copied it to the /etc/X11 dir?
[12:45] <KM0201> Marsjanin: once you've got your hidden files/folders in view, navigate to /home/username/.mozilla   and inside .mozilla, create a folder called "plugins"  open plugins, and paste the libflashplayer.so file inside there.
[12:45] <popey> BitPuffin: drop by #kazam sometime ☺
[12:45] <BitPuffin> popey, but on the launchpad site it says that unstable is currently broken?
[12:46] <KM0201> Marsjanin: after that, close all instances of firefox running, and restart the browser.
[12:46] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: not yet
[12:46] <popey> BitPuffin: where?
[12:46] <acer-ubuntu> L3top; oh i so confused
[12:46] <popey> BitPuffin: https://launchpad.net/kazam
[12:46] <L3top>  You don't need graphics for recovery terminal... its just a terminal.
[12:46] <Marsjanin> KM0201: OK... Funny workaround, Fx says it see and running the "system" flash now.
[12:46] <popey> BitPuffin: just "bzr branch lp:kazam" then "cd kazam/bin" then "./kazam" ☺
[12:47] <BitPuffin> popey, "Please note that Unstable PPA is broken at the moment and will be broken for some time until I refactor some of the source code. ETA unknown. :)"
[12:47] <KM0201> Marsjanin: well, is flash working?
[12:47] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: just open console and sudo service lightdm stop
[12:47] <acer-ubuntu> L3top: i thought ubuntu is easier than windows
[12:47] <BitPuffin> popey, oh nice. Thank you incredibly much!
[12:47] <popey> BitPuffin: i think that might be outdated
[12:47] <popey> BitPuffin: i use the unstable branch here
[12:47] <popey> BitPuffin: thanks for spotting that, will let the dev know
[12:47] <Marsjanin> KM0201: BRB - have to plug in modem into computer that runs Ubuntu. :)
[12:47] <BitPuffin> popey, So I can just add the ppa then?
[12:47] <popey> yes BitPuffin
[12:48] <Darael> L3top: Lightdm is an Upstart job, so to be picky, that ought to be "sudo stop lightdm", although thy version should also work.
[12:48] <BitPuffin> Okay cheers, you just saved my day popey!
[12:49] <BitPuffin> I love kazam but it hasn't saved to the right formats until now!
[12:49] <DylanJV> can someone please help me i am trying to install ubuntu on windows but i want ubuntu to be run aside windows
[12:49] <L3top> acer-ubuntu: easier is a relative term. If you are used to windows methodology, you may not find it easier, it is certainly more robust and secure... but you are grabbing a 3 day old release without all the bugs worked out. Sometimes windows releases dont work on hardware they should either... see Vista.
[12:49] <L3top> thank you for the correction Darael... you are, of course, correct.
[12:49] <blurp> .. dylan.. go download a virtual machine like MobaLiveCD and use it to emulate an iso in windows.
[12:49] <popey> BitPuffin: yay. drop by #kazam for help, bigwhale is the developer
[12:49] <BitPuffin> popey, Strange. Don't see any .avi ?
[12:49] <blurp> It will actuall emulate any iso, not just live ones.
[12:50] <z3bra> Mmmh first issue with the pangolin ! ^^ My conky dont display the date with ${execi 3600 date +%A %e}
[12:50] <DylanJV> i already have daemon tools which can create a virtual disk already
[12:50] <blurp> I'm actually running vector 6.0 light in a virtual maching right now, but usng xchat from windows.
[12:50] <blurp> works great.
[12:51] <L3top> DylanJV: You are trying to install ubuntu in a vm inside of windows? Or you want to dual boot to either windows or ubuntu?
[12:51] <Daghdha> Hello. After upgrading from 10.04-> 11.. -> 12.04 this weekend i seem to have lost my Transmission client. It was in the start menu.
[12:51] <Darael> DylanJV: Couldst thou be a little more specific?  By "run alongside windows", what exactly dost mean?
[12:51] <Daghdha> I see 6 transmission-xxxxxxx executables on the commandline but i have no idea wich one it is, does anyone know wich one the client is?
[12:51] <myhero> now that ubuntu 12.04 is out what about xubuntu and kubuntu ?
[12:52] <Daghdha> ihave: -cli -create -edit -gtk -remote and -show
[12:52] <blurp> I believeth he means to host it, but he couldst meanteth to bual booteth.
[12:52] <KM0201> myhero: sometimes they run a few days behind (sometimes)
[12:52] <DylanJV> i want windows as my main OS but i want ubuntu too but i would like ubuntu to run while i still have windows
[12:52] <Darael> Daghdha: It's transmission-gtk - but why not upgrade directly?  LTS->LTS upgrades are supposed to be possible in one step.  Indeed, I just did my server in a single one.
[12:52] <myhero> km2010:ok
[12:52] <L3top> Daghdha: click the ubnutu button top left and type in transmission, right click on what comes up and put it on the unity bar
[12:52] <Daghdha> Becausei am an idiot :) Thank you Dareal
[12:53] <Darael> blurp: Art mocking my choice to use singular second-person pronouns?  The T-V distinction is silly.
[12:53] <Daghdha> thank you L3top
[12:53] <Daghdha> Still have to get used to that
[12:53]  * Marsjanin back, installing flash
[12:53] <KM0201> Marsjanin: did that not work?
[12:53] <L3top> Darael: until there is a point release it is not available without adding the -d switch in terminal... is probably why
[12:53] <FishFace> Wacom tablet not detected. 12.04. Blue light is one. CTL470 model. Ideas?
[12:53] <Marsjanin> KM0201: wait a moment
[12:54] <Darael> L3top: So /that/'s why I had to add -d.  Interesting.  Did not know that.
[12:54] <steveccc> why did ubuntu move to libreoffice - is openoffice dying or is it purely because of Oracles involvement in openoffice?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> steveccc  because it is no longer free as in free speech
[12:54] <L3top> LTS strives for maximum stability, until they get a big bug fix out there, it is not directly available.
[12:55] <blurp> What other good linux rooms are there on this server?
[12:55] <Darael> steveccc: Oracle said, at least at one point, that they were ceasing development of OO.o.  I believe that was a factor.
[12:55] <steveccc> monkeydust: are they equivalent in terms of functions or does libreoffice have to 'catchup'
[12:55] <Darael> blurp: Define "good".  Also consider asking in -offtopic, where people are more amenable to chat.
[12:56] <shaneo> anyone else having issues re-installung previously purchased software from ubuntu software center? Im trying to re-download uplink but get a 401 error when installing
[12:56] <owner512> hello, i cant update my system, because it isnt the latest version. If i dont update my system, i get secruit problems?
[12:56] <xskydevilx> Is it possible to unmap the HUD feature from Alt?
[12:56] <shaneo> owner512, you will still get security updates unless your on 10.10
[12:56] <Darael> owner512: Which release art thou running?
[12:56] <blurp> is -offtopic a room?  like #offtopic?  and by good, I mean one that I can go into, see more than one active person, and be able to speak with an unreg'd nick
[12:57] <Darael> blurp: No.  I'm referring to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[12:57] <blurp> ahh, never heard of it.
[12:57] <blurp> I'm new to freenode.
[12:57] <blurp> but and old-school irc nerd.
[12:57] <owner512> thx guys
[12:57] <blurp> I'll check it out.
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> steveccc  don't know, i dont use it extensively
[12:57] <jthing> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_404
[12:58] <mardraum> blurp: old school would call it correctly a "channel"
[12:59] <jthing> blurb there is a ubuntu-offtopic
[12:59] <blurp> well, it depends on what context I'm talking about them.  Sometiems I say chan.
[12:59] <L3top> mardraum: ooooooold school (aol compuserve) would call it a room
[12:59] <blurp> jthing.. I'm there.. thanks.
[12:59] <MaskilPDX> I am hoping someone could help
[13:00] <Darael> !ask | MaskilPDX
[13:00] <mardraum> L3top: he said IRC
[13:00] <MaskilPDX> Where is the log of all commands typed in terminal?
[13:00] <ikonia> MaskilPDX: "history"
[13:00] <fidel_> MaskilPDX: history
[13:00] <L3top> mardraum: you are correct. I am not.
[13:00] <Kriss3d> MaskilPDX history but there is no actal log
[13:00] <Darael> MaskilPDX: run "history", or look at ~/.bash_history.
[13:00] <MaskilPDX> Thank you!
[13:00] <Darael> Kriss3d: What's ~/.bash_history, then?
[13:00] <ikonia> Kriss3d: apart from .bash_history
[13:01] <Marsjanin> KM0201: where should be that plugin folder? ~/.mozilla/firefox...where?
[13:01] <Kriss3d> Isnt that  just the past few lines youve written ? Never looked at it though
[13:01] <ikonia> history of your current shell
[13:01] <KM0201> Marsjanin: create the folder in /home/username/.mozilla   (not under /.mozilla/firefox)
[13:01] <Kriss3d> k
[13:02] <Marsjanin> KM0201: come on, and what ~ means?
[13:02] <skulltip> when i do an install of 12.04, halfway through the screen goes into zig zags and is unreadable. when i try it out, unity makes it unusable.. like screen buffers not being updated correctly. i have onboard video and a six year old pc
[13:02] <Darael> MaskilPDX: For reference, running "history" is more portable across shells - for example, I use zsh, so my log is in ~/.zhistory instead.
[13:02] <KM0201> Marsjanin: huh?
[13:02] <skulltip> it makes it really hard to keep my mom in ubuntu
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Marsjanin   ~ means /home/your_user
[13:02] <Marsjanin> ~ goes /home/user/
[13:02] <Marsjanin> Righr
[13:03] <KM0201> Marsjanin: well if you're so smart, why are you here askijhnjg for help on a really simple issue?
[13:03] <L3top> Kriss3d: type history.  history | grep "pattern" is particularly helpful when doing oddball svn etc.
[13:03] <Marsjanin> Argh
[13:03] <Kriss3d> ok ty
[13:03] <Darael> Marsjanin: Strictly speaking it doesn't always, but for the purposes of real users on Ubuntu when the sysadmin hasn't done certain unusual things, ~ is, indeed, /home/$USER
[13:03] <Marsjanin> KM0201: Because im my opinion devs broke something, that worked good.
[13:04] <KM0201> Marsjanin: in my opinion you have no idea what you're talking about
[13:04] <Marsjanin> OK, calm...
[13:04] <mn_> Hi guys! :D I was just upgrading to 12.04 and the install botched. It had been sitting at the same spot for about two days so I unplugged it and let it run out of battery. Now, the system won't work. I have a liveCD to use to help fix it, but I have NO IDEA what to do or even where to start. Would someone PLEASE help me?
[13:05] <jthing> mn_: failed how?
[13:05] <kx> mn_: welcome to the ubuntu experience. get used to it. if you dont know where to start, trust me, the process will be a nightmare for you. youre probably better of clean installing
[13:05] <mn_> jthing: it hung during the install so I let it run out of battery. So I guess I would say it lost power while upgrading
[13:05] <Marsjanin> KM0201: So OK, i open the folder /home/my/.mozilla, there are folders firefox and extensions.
[13:05] <ud3770> hello i want restore grub how can i do it?
[13:06] <beeju> how to configure splash screen on 12.04?
[13:06] <Darael> mn_: That wasn't the best of moves.  We'll try to help, of course, but for future reference there's almost always some way to get a responding system back.  Now then, one option is to boot the live cd, mount the filesystem from the host, and chroot to it.  I can walk thee through that.
[13:06] <KM0201> Marsjanin: listening is not  y our strong point, i have explained this 3x... inside .mozilla, create a folder called plugins, and paste the libflashplayer.so , inside there.
[13:06] <mn_> kx: I can't clean install. I'm pretty technically proficient. I know this is how it can be from time to time, but that's fine with me. Do you have any constructive suggestions?
[13:06] <Daiz|> Is there anyway to turn on wi-fi in recovery console?
[13:07] <Vessel> Hello.
[13:07] <jthing> mn_what kx sais is true. The clean verion installs with no problems. Upgrading is always a nightmare. And 1204 has LTS Long Term Support so it is more stable and is supported for 3 years
[13:07] <mn_> Darael: Yes, please. I tried to chroot, but that didn't work. I would love for you to walk me through it please
[13:07] <Darael> Daiz|: Assuming the choice of "netroot" rather than "root", it's a case of looking up the wifi management commands (I'm afraid I don't remember them offhand).
[13:07] <Vessel> Well..
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> mn_  did you try do-release-upgrade?
[13:07] <Marsjanin> KM0201: sorry for that, I could not notice while going from one computer to another. I'll create and have to go due Firefox restart.
[13:07] <ud3770> How can i restore grub?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> !grub| ud3770
[13:07] <dschuett> why can't i arrange icons in the unity launcher on 12.04? - when i try to drag an icon it moves the entire set of icons. - running in virtual box
[13:07] <mn_> MonkeyDust: No, I haven't heard of that. Would you please briefly explain?
[13:08] <Darael> mn_: First things first, the chroot will only be useful if the liveCD is the same architecture (32- or 64-bit) as the system to be rescued.
[13:08] <kx> mn_: that was the most constructive suggeston you'll get. starting off with admitting you dont know where to start, i did you a favor. if you want to go through the process, boot to livecd, chroot into your old installation and use dpkg-reconfigure -a, apt-get -f install and dpkg -i to get your half installation attempted to work. when that fails (and it will) do the clean install
[13:08] <Vessel> Anyone knows any kind of explanation of why the H*** the LiveCD donesnt load if i set the AHCI mode ON ( in Bios) Grub shows, but an error about "you need to load the kernel first" is shown also.
[13:08] <Night_Elf> Hi all. I have installed ubunty server in a system. As soon as the most basic installation was done, now I connect to it using ssh. I intend to use it as a host for virtual machines using kvm. Yet some message is displayed complaning about a framebuffer device (/dev/fb0). What does that mean ?
[13:08] <L3top> mn_: I have seen several installs hang on the flashplugin install. Did your attempt to chroot result in a chroot: cannot run command `/bin/ bash': Exec format error?
[13:08] <Dr_willis> dschuett,  click and hold for a moment, then you can rearange
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> mn_  it's like apt-get blah, in a terminal, type do-release-upgrade, you'll have to confirm two or three questions
[13:08] <mn_> L3top yes
[13:08] <Darael> mn_: do-release-upgrade is the way one launches the release upgrader from the command line.
[13:09] <skulltip> i guess no developers try to install it on older computers with onboard video
[13:09] <Darael> kx: That is not a helpful attitude.  Besides, it's not true that chrooting and doing the various package-fixes will definitely fail.
[13:09] <jthing> mn_what machine are you talking from
[13:10] <mn_> I'm talking from a different machine.
[13:10] <L3top> mn very odd. Can you boot to live cd and WITHOUT MOUNTING, run sudo fsck -f /dev/sdxy   (where xy is your drive letter and partition number)
[13:10] <mn_> I'm on my desktop. My lappy is the one with the problem. I am on a livecd on it right now
[13:10] <ud3770> MonkeyDust:i don't know which one is my linux partition can you help me?
[13:11] <gaelfx> my two-finger scrolling is working in other applications, but not in nautilus, any ideas why that might be?
[13:11] <L3top> mn_: make sure that you have umount /dev/sda1   first (or whatever your drive/part is)
[13:11] <jin24> so guys since updating to 2.6.32-41-generic on lucid im having problems with my external harddrive, i store music on it and whenever i listen to it for some time it stops and exaile and parts of the gnome ui freeze. here is the syslog of it : http://paste.ubuntu.com/957439/  so can somebody tell me what this means ? :)
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> ud3770  in a terminal, type sudo fdisk -l -- if you're not sure, use pastebin to show it to the channel
[13:11] <Night_Elf> mn_: So you're wanting to chroot to a system by using a liveCD into it, and you can't? Check that both the system in the disk (where you want to chroot to) and the liveCD are both the same kernel, in the sense that either both 33bit, either both 64bit.
[13:11] <mn_> One moment. How do I check the architecture of the OS I am currently running. I wanna make sure this live OS is the same arch as the botched system
[13:11] <varikonniemi> hello, i just installed an 12.04 server, and tried to add virtualbox guest additions
[13:12] <Night_Elf> 32bit*
[13:12] <varikonniemi> when i mount the image i get a foledr in /dev/cdrom/
[13:12] <gaelfx> mn_: uname -a
[13:12] <varikonniemi> that is empty
[13:12] <kx> Darael: it's absolutely a helpful attitude. more people should approach ubuntu problems this way. it will actualyl save many wasted hours, a terrible attitude toward the ubuntu upgrade process (though it's deserved) etc. he's asking for step by step instructions to even do a chroot. this will fail for sure especially since glibc was updated and installs improperly and upgrades that finish even properly to 12.04
[13:12] <L3top> Night_Elf: this is the 4th instance of this exact circumstance I have seen for 1204 in the last 3 days.
[13:12] <Darael> mn_: do a "uname -a" and look for "amd64" or "i686".
[13:12] <minimec> gaelfx: I cannot confirm your problem. Two finger scrolling is working for me in nautilus. Maybe you find something in the nautilus settings. Otherwise try to remove/rename the .config/nautilus folder once .
[13:12] <nishttal2> hi has anyone been able to setup multiple monitors (more than 2) on 12.04
[13:12] <Vessel> Hello, Anyone knowswhy the LiveCD does not load with AHCI mode ON? Grub is shown, but the options on the menu gives me errors like " you need to load the kernel first" No info on google, nor askubuntu :(
[13:13] <kx> Darael: *installs improperly even from upgrades that finished properly to 12.04
[13:13] <L3top> Night_Elf Darael all have been using the live dvd that they installed from.
[13:13] <nishttal2> i had a perfectly functional setup at 10.10 and now i only have 1 monitor.. the other 2 are whiteout
[13:13] <Night_Elf> L3top: I have seen it with 10.4 too. A friend had installed a 64 bit system. When we tried to LiveCD in it and then do a chroot, we could not do that.
[13:13] <Marsjanin> The Flash still don't work, I even tried to precise, what program Fx have to use to open it.
[13:13] <Darael> L3top: What?
[13:13] <gaelfx> minimec: it was working, but it just suddenly stopped, I'll try killing it and restarting
[13:13] <mn_> Damn. Okay. This is 32-bit and my botched OS is 64-bit. I'll be back in a bit when I have a 64-bit liveCD up and running an instance on my lappy. I'll stay in channel while I'm doing that. I just won't be active unless someone says something to me with my name for alert.
[13:14] <Night_Elf> L3top: Not for flamebaiting... but for things like these is the reason that my servers are Debian .
[13:14] <ud3770> MonkeyDust: 	http://pastebin.ca/2142216
[13:14] <L3top> Night_Elf: it is almost always a 32/64 bit problem when I see that error... however this hang on flashplugin then reboot and cant chroot has not been. In fact swapping to another drive assignment fixes it.
[13:14] <joseph_> Ok computer booting into a blank screen after nvidia driver installation, Can I get help please?
[13:14] <georgelappies> how does one clear the recent history in the HUD?
[13:15] <kx> joseph_: what version and from what repository
[13:15] <Darael> L3top: I'm talking to mn_ about using a chroot to fix a failed upgrade.  I don't see what the live DVD someone installed from has to do with that?
[13:15] <Your_Dog> hi is anyone here good or atleast knowledgable about bash scripting?
[13:15] <L3top> It is most certainly a bug. If mn_ comes back I will try and get some logs. I cannot reproduce it.
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> ud3770  NTFS is windows, you've got it two times
[13:15] <Darael> !anyone | Your_Dog
[13:15] <ThePendulum> Yesterday, I installed Ubuntu on a laptop. However, it boots and shows the purple screen for a short amount of time, before going black. If I boot in recovery mode, only half the screen is "usable" (lots of graphical artifacts). This last graphics mode was already present during installation, but I hoped it would fix itself after the installation. I've tried booting with nomodeset, but it didn't help. I have no idea what graphics card 
[13:15] <Pici> Your_Dog: #bash would be the best place to ask.
[13:15] <mn_> Yo guys the architecture was wrong to chroot. That's what caused the problem I think.
[13:15] <Your_Dog> ok thanks Pici
[13:15] <Your_Dog> join #Bash
[13:15] <Your_Dog> oops
[13:15] <gaelfx> minimec: ok, I was wrong, it's not working in most things, just Skype and Chrome it seems to work (weird eh?)
[13:15] <joseph_> ok hold on, I'm not on that computer..
[13:16] <ud3770> MonkeyDust: no, first is windows partition and second is just a place to save files
[13:16] <Darael> mn_: Sounds likely, yes.  Don't forget to mount any extra filesystems once thou hast the chroot!
[13:16] <KM0201> ThePendulum: did you try removing "quiet splash" from the grub line, to see where it's hanging up.
[13:16] <Night_Elf> Darael: 32/64 bit differences. You boot from a 32 bit live cd and then you try to chroot where a 64 bit system is, this will fail. Your 32 bit livecd kernel will not function with nothing on the 64 bit chroot place, where the libs and everything else are compiled 64 bit.
[13:16] <Vessel> Hello, Anyone knows why the LiveCD does not load with AHCI mode ON? Grub is shown, but the options on the menu gives me errors like " you need to load the kernel first" No info on google, nor askubuntu :(
[13:16] <L3top> Darael: I was simply saying, that this, I believe, is a bug... as I have encountered it several times since 1204 release with other users, and that while normally I would agree that it is probably a 64/32 versioning issue, the reason I knew the error it gave is because I believe this to be a bug. That is all.
[13:16] <ThePendulum> KM0201: Removing it is interesting. What will I see/notice?
[13:16] <mn_> Darael: Why do I need to mount extra fss?
[13:16] <Marsjanin> KM0201: That did not the trick :( Even if pointing in FIrefox' options, what to use to open swf.
[13:16] <KM0201> ThePendulum: well, when it stops, that will presumably show you where it's failing.
[13:17] <sfears> ThePendulum: it may be a refresh rate issue, are you using an LCD monitor?
[13:17] <KM0201> Marsjanin: i dunno, you're pretty smart, you'll figure it out.
[13:17] <beeju> how to configure splash screen on 12.04
[13:17] <Darael> mn_: I refer to any that thou hast on other disks.  Most dont, but if thou /hast/ I wouldn't want thee to forget.
[13:17] <ThePendulum> KM0201: Ubuntu itself continues though, the screen just goes black (or half in Recovery mode). According to the sounds the laptop makes, Ubuntu is still running.
[13:17] <Darael> L3top: Ah, I see.
[13:17] <Darael> Night_Elf: I'm aware of that.  That's why I directed mn_ to check architecture.
[13:17] <joseph_> I posted it on linuxquestions.org but no one answered yet and I don't know how to get the information you asked for without having access to the other computer.
[13:17] <KM0201> ThePendulum: hmm
[13:17] <Marsjanin> KM0201: OK, man, OK... :/
[13:17] <kx> joseph_: is it nvidia
[13:17] <Night_Elf> I have installed ubunty server in a system. As soon as the most basic installation was done, now I connect to it using ssh. I intend to use it as a host for virtual machines using kvm. Yet some message is displayed complaning about a framebuffer device (/dev/fb0). What does that mean ?
[13:18] <gaelfx> Darael: did you just go medeival on someone?
[13:18] <sfears> i started having issues with the refresh rate since 11.10 ThePendulum, and i'm not sure how to set the refresh rate pre-kde
[13:18] <joseph_> yes
[13:18] <beeju> how to configure splash screen on 12.04
[13:18] <minimec> gaelfx: What are the mouse/touchpad settings in the ubuntu settings. Could you check if at least the 'edge scrolling' setting is working?
[13:18] <Darael> gaelfx: No.  I use singular second-person pronouns because the T-V distinction is silly, and also because I'm a Quaker.
[13:18] <sfears> do you have an alternate monitor you can try using to troubleshoot ThePendulum?
[13:18] <joseph_> I used "additional drivers" in Kubuntu 12.04 and now it won't go past the bios screen.
[13:18] <gaelfx> minimec: will do
[13:19] <ThePendulum> sfears: It was one of my final sollutions, I guess that's where I end up now. I doubt it's a refresh rate issue btw. I've seen too high refresh rates before, and it looks nothing like it.
[13:19] <sfears> joseph_: if you hold down the shift key at boot does it show the grub menu and can you boot into recovery mode?
[13:19] <kx> joseph_: downgrade to 295.33 driver. ubuntu routinely puts unstable and nonfunctional garbage in its repositories, and there is a known nvidia bug in its latest driver that causes this for much hardware, stitting in the 'stable' repository right now, so downgrading can help you a lot
[13:19] <ale`> hi, when my laptop (a thinkpad t61) resumes after sleep, the brightness controls don't work anymore. Any clue how to fix this?
[13:20] <joseph_> I didn't know about the shift key, I'll do that, thank you. newbie here obviously
[13:20] <gaelfx> minimec: edge-scrolling works on nothing, not even chrome or skype
[13:20] <sfears> if a different monitor displays corectly then i'd say refresh rate ThePendulum
[13:20] <L3top> mn_: Please unmount the drive, run fsck -f /dev/sda1 (or whatever your drive is... ) and see if that finds errors, repairs them, and suddenly chroot is available. I cannot reproduce this error.
[13:20] <ThePendulum> sfears: It's worth a try none the less, thanks for the suggestion
[13:21] <gaelfx> minimec: scratch that, it works on chrome and skype, but not others
[13:21] <mn_> No I already fsck'd it. It said it was clear
[13:21] <joseph_> holding shift key isn't working sfears
[13:21] <L3top> So weird...
[13:21] <L3top> ty mn_
[13:21] <Darael> L3top: We /did/ establish that the architectures were different.  Last I heard, mn_ had gone to get a 64-bit liveCD.
[13:21] <L3top> well there you go... I clearly missed that
[13:22] <L3top> So this is not that.
[13:22] <kx> see you guys in 8 hours when he just clean installs :)
[13:22] <kx> haha
[13:22] <minimec> gaelfx: ok. I don't know if I can really help you. You would have to figure out what kind of touchpad you are using and what driver. All I can say is, that synaptics based touchpads are working well, atleast on two machines I configured for 12.04.
[13:22] <joseph_> kx, I'll do that once I can get in. I need to login using fail safe but can't get it to the log in screen.
[13:22] <beeju> how to configure splash screen on 12.04
[13:22] <L3top> kx do you have a support related question, or are you just here to troll?
[13:23] <gaelfx> minimec: I think I probably just ought to give up and restart, see if that gets it
[13:23] <APoulos> hey folks, I could use some help with something
[13:23] <APoulos> I need a new email client
[13:23] <kx> L3top: neither, i am here helping resolve many of the ubuntu problems out there. do you have any particular help you need?
[13:23] <z3bra> Please, how can I access to the famous HUD ?
[13:23] <APoulos> Thunderbird is killing my system
[13:23] <joseph_> How do I boot to recovery mode in Kubuntu 12.04? please
[13:24] <APoulos> in fact, Thunderbird is consuming my system
[13:24] <kx> joseph_: so failsafe has the same screen blankness?
[13:24] <APoulos> Here's my computer stats and what I'm running at: http://i.imgur.com/LusPy.png
[13:24] <Darael> APoulos: There are a /lot/ of options.  Depends what thou'rt after.  If Thunderbird is too heavy, Evolution is right out, but there's still plenty of choices.  Have a browse of the software-center.
[13:24] <Tinti> joseph_: add 'single' to grub
[13:24] <joseph_> no it works fine, now I can't get to it for some reason
[13:24] <L3top> Obvious troll is obvious.
[13:24] <Darael> z3bra: Hit the super key ("windows key").
[13:24] <mn_> Alrighty, I'm installing Ubuntu 11.10 x86-64 to my 8 GB USB stick right now. So, I'll be ready to tackle this problem pretty quickly. :) Thank you guys for helping me out. It is VERY much appreciated!
[13:25] <APoulos> Darael: yeah, Im using Evolution but cant get it to work in the background
[13:25] <Darael> z3bra: Wait, sorry, that's the dash.  The HUD is on alt.
[13:25] <z3bra> Darael: oh ok
[13:25] <fusk> Hi, does anyone know of a bandwidth meter for the menu bar ?
[13:25] <z3bra> Yeah ! o/
[13:25] <z3bra> thx
[13:25] <kx> joseph_: try what tinti has said.. we dont know what "cant get to it" means exactly though
[13:26] <Tinti> joseph_: remove also the quiet and splash
[13:26] <APoulos> OH
[13:26] <APoulos> speaking of which
[13:26] <ThePendulum> An external monitor shows the same issue, so it's not a refresh rate issue
[13:26] <APoulos> joseph_: a good editor for GRUB menu - GRUB Customizer - it helps a lot
[13:27] <APoulos> Just throwing that out there
[13:29] <shadykhan> is there a way to remove chat/gwibber from the mail icon on the top right?
[13:29] <gaelfx> minimec: restart solved the issue. still wish I knew what exactly caused it though, do you know what I could look for in the logs? just synaptics?
[13:30] <Darael> shadykhan: Remove gwibber?  I think the package is gwibber-service.  Ditto for Empathy.  That might cause dependency problems with ubuntu-desktop, though.
[13:30] <nishtta2> hi when i go to Ubuntu recovery and drop to root prompt.. why is it giving me a READONLY file system?
[13:30] <joseph_> that would be a great advise, but I can't log in
[13:30] <minimec> gaelfx: Don't know really, as the touchpad is handled by the xserver. It would probably be some X error.
[13:30] <Salamander> Hello Im trying to insall a motorolla modem in my pentium II runing ubuntu server. The thing is that I need slamr driver, and here is the page to download it  " http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/smartlink/Ubuntu/ "  but I dont know what version tu use since my uname -r --> 3.2.0-23-generic-pae.
[13:30] <joseph_> can't boot
[13:30] <Dr_willis> nishtta2,  i belive the recovery menu has some 'remount as read write' option
[13:30] <Darael> joseph_: Is there an option before choosing to drop to root involving the word "mount"?  Choose that, first.
[13:31] <joseph_> now it boots from the cd saying.. select cd-rom boot type: wtHeck???
[13:31] <Darael> joseph_: Apologies.
[13:31] <gaelfx> minimec: yikes, that probably won't be so easy to find
[13:31] <Darael> nishtta2: See my previous remark accidentally addressed to joseph_.
[13:31] <nishtta2> Dr_willis, yeah.. but in previous version of ubuntu.. recovery was read/write by default
[13:31] <minimec> gaelfx: Exactly...
[13:31] <georgelappies> hi all, how can I get xchat to integrate into the messaging app on the top bar?
[13:31] <nishtta2> Darel i see
[13:31] <nishtta2> Dareal will try that.. thanks
[13:32] <Darael> georgelappies: If the developer hasn't written that functionality in, and there's no plugin, then thou'lt have to modify the source and submit a patch.
[13:32] <Darael> georgelappies: Or write a plugin, if XChat has those.
[13:32] <Tinti> to get rw rootfs
[13:32] <Tinti> mount -o remount,rw /
[13:32] <Darael> nishtta2: There /is/ another option, which is what Tinti just said.
[13:32] <gaelfx> note to self: dmesg | grep x is a baaaaad idea
[13:32] <nishtta2> Darael no there is no such option.. resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, fsck grub network root system-summary
[13:32] <Tinti> and after to commit your changes you should do mount -o remount,ro /
[13:33] <newbie> !list
[13:33] <Darael> Tinti: "Commit your changes"?  It's not a revision control system.
[13:34] <shadykhan> Darael, well is there a way to remove it from the mail menu on the top right?
[13:34] <fusk> Hi, does anyone know of a bandwidth meter for the menu bar ?
[13:34] <Darael> shadykhan: I seem to remember there being a way, but I'm afraid I don't remember what it is.
[13:34] <APoulos> How's Sylpheed as an alternative to Evolution and Thunderbird? anyone?
[13:35] <Darael> fusk: More recent versions of Ubuntu have a policy against putting purely-indicative things like that in the top menu.
[13:35] <Darael> !poll | APoulos
[13:35] <APoulos> Darael: can you just answer the question of your opinion
[13:35] <Salamander> What kernel version im I running if uname -r output is 3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[13:35] <skulltip> installing using the alternative text installer, what's a safe window manager that won't break the OS since the onboard video is nvidia?
[13:35] <APoulos> Darael: Im not talking a poll
[13:35] <APoulos> Im asking a question
[13:36] <minimec> gaelfx: dmesg |grep syna <-- check if you have a synaptics based touchpad
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> APoulos  no opinions here, this is the support channel
[13:36] <dresden> usb 3.0 kaput in 12.04?
[13:36] <robgraves> lol
[13:36] <acicula> Salamander: the window manager has nothing to do with the graphics driver inuse
[13:36] <Darael> APoulos: That's not what the channel is for.  And the point is that thou'rt asking for people's opinions.  That it's not in the form of a poll is not really the point, and that the factoid suggests it is is a flaw in the factoid.
[13:36] <fusk> Darael: okay, sounds a bit weird, but do you know what people use instead?
[13:36] <APoulos> Darael: christ... okay.. I get it
[13:37] <gaelfx> minimec: already tried, it just showed when it loaded the driver
[13:37] <Salamander> acicula, what do you mean?? Im not following you
[13:37] <Darael> fusk: I believe gkrellm is popular for monitoring stuff?  Not sure.
[13:37] <designbybeck> On ATI Video cards, new 12.04 64bit install... I have 2 options for the driver. One is normal then one is Post-Release Update
[13:37] <Darael> fusk: Could always draw it on the desktop with conky :)
[13:37] <acicula> Salamander: its the xorg subsystem that loads the graphics driver, the xorg system is used regardless of the windowmanager that you choose to use
[13:37] <designbybeck> nither one says recommended? Which should  I go with?
[13:38] <APoulos> !poll | designbybeck
[13:38] <fusk> Darael: ah, i see, yeah that might do the trick, like a widget of some sort.
[13:38] <Salamander> acicula, I see you are talking to skulltip
[13:38] <Darael> designbybeck: Do the descriptions give a hint?  My inclination would be to go for the post-release update.
[13:38] <Simon1245> Hey guys, I messed up ubuntu when upgrading it 2 days ago basically it was updating and I wanted to switch to Windows and cut the loading in the middle of it, next day I tried to get back on it and it didn't work so I did recovery mode and it fixed and now it says 12.04 but I'm not sure if it's fully updated, coul someone tell me how I can find out whether it's fully updated or not? Thanks :)
[13:38] <designbybeck> normally it has in the past with(recommended)
[13:39] <skulltip> ok.. how do i install 12.04 in an older pc with onboard nvidia, without it freezing up on me?
[13:39] <designbybeck> but I dont' see that this time Darael
[13:39] <acicula> Salamander: oh whoops my bad
[13:39] <Darael> fusk: The Compiz Widget Layer (is that still in Ubuntu?) can be nice for that; it puts the monitors and similar just a keypress away.
[13:39] <designbybeck> I'll give a try anyway! Thanks Darael
[13:39] <Darael> designbybeck: I'm not referring to the names, I mean the info in the box at the bottom, having highlighted one.
[13:40] <fusk> Darael: i'll give it a google search and see what comes up.
[13:40] <Salamander> skulltip, Im runing 12.04 server edition in a pentium II with asdkhfasd graphic card.
[13:40] <Simon1245> Hey guys, I messed up ubuntu when upgrading it 2 days ago basically it was updating and I wanted to switch to Windows and cut the loading in the middle of it, next day I tried to get back on it and it didn't work so I did recovery mode and it fixed and now it says 12.04 but I'm not sure if it's fully updated, could someone tell me how I can find out whether it's fully updated or not? Thanks :)
[13:40] <iceroot> Simon1245: please paste the output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s" and "dpkg -l | grep -v ^rc | grep -v ^ii"
[13:40] <designbybeck> oh no Darael the text content on both is the same
[13:40] <iceroot> !paste | Simon1245
[13:40] <Darael> fusk: That's rarely a bad plan.  Good luck.
[13:40] <Caifas> Hello guys, I made a pressed file for my ubuntu instalation, and made it boot on usb, when the partition is starting it pop a msg saying about instalation medium, do you know a way to preseed this option or something that wont pop this msg up?
[13:40] <Simon1245> iceroot, Thanks I'll do it now :)
[13:40] <skulltip> ok installing server would be a way around that issue and still include a window manager?
[13:40] <Tinti> Darael: sorry it is true, it is just that once I have made changes in the fs and they were not applied unless I umount it manually. Since I cant umount it, remount it as readonly is enough
[13:40] <Darael> designbybeck: Ah.  How unhelpful.
[13:40] <skulltip> this is for a normal user, not a nerd or power user
[13:40] <designbybeck> that's what I was thinking Darael ;)
[13:40] <joseph_> ok guys, I need to get into recovery mode, I held down the shift key during boot, it only flashed and went back to blank screen. Anything else I can try? I also tried the cd, but only installation options are available.
[13:40] <Darael> Tinti: Running sync ought to do that?
[13:41] <skulltip> or  can i install from the default cd without using whatever nouveau or other driver is causing me grief
[13:42] <pratz> hey guys please help me out of this, I am being trying this for hour now, I just can not install u12.04
[13:42] <pratz> the installer gives me a error message
[13:42] <Darael> !elaborate | pratz
[13:42] <Darael> Hmm, maybe I'm a little to twitchy on the !elaborate.
[13:43] <pratz> installer says "Installer encounter Internal Error" that's it
[13:43] <Darael> Not to mention apparently incapable of grammar.
[13:43] <pratz> guys please any one ?
[13:43] <L3top> seemed an appropriate use to me Darael.
[13:44] <L3top> !patience | pratz
[13:44] <pratz> I just burned another iso image , still not working
[13:44] <Simon1245> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/957504/
[13:44] <kx> joseph_: presss escape over and over, you may have grub installed and set to hide menu till you press esc
[13:44] <pratz> pratz: i can successfully install debian on the same machine
[13:44] <nitzs> Simon1245: it's 12.04 alright.
[13:44] <johnm> kx: joseph_: and by esc, I think kx means hold down shift :)
[13:45] <joseph_> I just tried that kx and it did the same thing, only flashed and back to blank again. johnm I tried the shift as well, no go.
[13:45] <Darael> L3top: No, it wasn't.  I was referring to 'to' as opposed to "too".
[13:45] <Simon1245> nitzs, No misstakes at all? Also if you update it while being on it does it get you everything you would have if you downloaded it from a CD?
[13:45] <L3top> I meant of the factoid.
[13:45] <iceroot> Simon1245: seems fine so far but i dont get why the unity-scope..package is hold back
[13:45] <joseph_> I am google searching while chatting, but no help
[13:46] <Darael> L3top: Ah.  Right.  Yes.  My brain is clearly falling apart.
[13:46] <Simon1245> iceroot, What does that do?
[13:46] <nitzs> pratz: maybe you should try the alternate install cd.
[13:46] <iceroot> !info unity-scope-musicstores
[13:46] <nitzs> Simon1245: yes.
[13:46] <pratz> nitzs: dude i just burned the alternative iso cd
[13:46] <iceroot> is that package installed by default on ubuntu 12.04?
[13:46] <Vessel> Im getting Two errors trying to load the LiveCD : "error: couldn't read file"  AND "error: you need to load the kernel first" Since Ubuntu is not installed, i have no way of trroobleshooting it, because i CANT install. I think its caused by something related to acpi mode in bios, Someone can help me with this?
[13:46] <pratz> why ? why ? it is happing to me
[13:46] <Tinti> Darael: Yeah, I think this is a very good option. But I believe that remounting is safer.
[13:46] <kx> johnm: shit does the same thing?
[13:47] <Simon1245> nitzs, iceroot What's winbind btw, I'm getting problem after it tells me to download it for some reason :S
[13:47] <pratz> is there a bug in the installer ?
[13:47] <L3top> Language kx.
[13:47] <johnm> Vessel: there was actually a poorly built iso, it migth have been you downloaded the wrong one. I'd say download it again and try again.
[13:47] <Darael> Tinti: I will grant that remounting ro prevents any mistakes making it to disk afterward.
[13:47] <iceroot> Simon1245: winbind is the most buggy software out there... its coming normally with wine and is doing the network/samba stuff
[13:47] <johnm> L3top: he meant shift, nothing to do with his language :)
[13:47] <kx> johnm: shift* does the same thing?
[13:48] <Vessel> Ohm.
[13:48] <Vessel> johnm: Ohm
[13:48] <Simon1245> iceroot, Ah okay
[13:48] <johnm> kx: holding down shift is grub-2's modifier to bring up the boot meny
[13:48] <johnm> menu*
[13:48] <Vessel> johnm: i'll give a try right now. thanks.
[13:48] <kx> johnm: ah. esc works as well my friend
[13:48] <iceroot> Simon1245: so its nothing bad at all that winbind gets installed
[13:48] <johnm> Vessel: check the md5 sums match before burning it to a cd :)
[13:48] <Vessel> johnm: For sure.
[13:48] <Simon1245> iceroot, It doesn't it crashes and then sends a report back somewhere
[13:49] <johnm> kx: only if the timer is set to something other than 0. if its not set to wait, then the only way to interrupt it is with the modifier (shift).
[13:49] <Simon1245> iceroot, Anyways, I'll just forget about it :)
[13:49] <iceroot> Simon1245: winbind itself?
[13:49] <Simon1245> iceroot, Yeah
[13:49] <kx> johnm: oh interesting
[13:51] <pratz> no one guys ?
[13:51] <Simon1245> iceroot, Btw, where can I see what's new in 12.04 compared to 11.10?
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> how can i make startup disk ubuntu on windows pc?
[13:51] <nitzs> pratz: maybe you can install a previous version of ubuntu and update it?
[13:51] <pratz> I am trying to install u12.04 also tried alternative cd, but the installer gives the same error
[13:52] <iceroot> !usb  | lotuspsychje
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> iceroot:tnx
[13:52] <iceroot> Simon1245: good questions i think there is somewhere a changelog on ubuntu.com
[13:52] <joseph_> ok, Just booted to the cd and the only options I have are... try kubuntu or install it. How do I recover the system I have? the option isn't here.
[13:52] <Simon1245> iceroot, I'll look for it, thanks :)
[13:52] <Darael> iceroot: The package thou wert asking about?  It's recommended by unity2d, but it's not a full dependency.  So the answer is "maybe".
[13:52] <sign> you ren m
[13:52] <sign> 有人吗
[13:52] <mn_> Okay. Got Ubuntu 11.10 amd64 up and running a live session from my USB stick. What is the first order of business here that I should take?
[13:52] <robgraves> pratz: I've done 3 or 4 installs of 12.04 on several computers with the SAME  LIVE USB sometiems the installer crashed, sometimes it didn't, when it didm, i just restarted the install and it worked fine
[13:52] <pratz> nitzs: i installed debian and trying to install ubuntu on top of it
[13:53] <z3bra> How can I change de default application to open folders ? cause actually, when I run "gnome-open <folder>", I get a new gnome-terminal
[13:53] <compdoc> pratz, you ever run memtest86 thats on the installer cd?
[13:53] <Darael> iceroot: The only Precise machine I have on hand to check with is a server, so it doesn't have unity installed, so I can't give any more info.
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> z3bra  system settings, details
[13:53] <nitzs> pratz: you mean in a VM?
[13:53] <pratz> nitzs: robgraves but really guys what the hell is going on, I am trying this for atleast 10hrs now
[13:53] <z3bra> MonkeyDust: I can't change it from there
[13:53] <sign> 请问有说中文的吗
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[13:54] <z3bra> Only web browser, mail client, music/video player
[13:54] <pratz> nitzs: what vm ??
[13:54] <L3top> pratz: virtual machine
[13:54] <Darael> pratz: One can't turn a debian system into an Ubuntu one.  It doesn't work; they're not ABI-compatible.
[13:54] <pratz> L3top: ya i know that , but i never mentioned vm
[13:54] <mn_> @Darael & L3top I'm back and ready to go, yo
[13:55] <pratz> Darael: I am trying to do a fresh ubuntu install on installed debian and i guess this is possible
[13:55] <z3bra> Where is the mimetype file on ubuntu please ?
[13:55] <venerabl13> Hi, which is the difference between: Main officialy supported software & Main Sources Repository here www.repogen.symplylinux.ch
[13:55] <nitzs> pratz: have you formatted your debian partiton before installing ubuntu over it?
[13:55] <pratz> nitzs: yes
[13:55] <Darael> pratz: What, exactly, dost thou mean?  Please explain thy process.
[13:56] <Simon1245> iceroot, Hey, I keep getting those crash things, is there anyway to update the ubuntu again with all the new packages without interupting it this time?
[13:56] <pratz> Darael: I had installed debian , then i formatted that with ubuntu 12.04 cd and during installation the installer crashes
[13:56] <joseph_> guys please, booting from the cd, how do I get to a boot prompt so I can follow the instructions I found? their booting from cd isn't working. I do not have that option for a command prompt
[13:56] <L3top> pratz: there is not enough information to go on. The error message you describe is not particularly helpful. Is there a file system? Does it get that far? Are there logs you can look at?
[13:56] <pratz> what should i do not guys ?
[13:56] <Darael> pratz: In that case, the pre-existence of debian probably isn't relevant.  Sorry, I thought thou hadst tried to take a functioning debian install and use the Ubuntu repositories to turn it into Ubuntu, which really wouldn't work.
[13:57] <chandru_in> In 12.04 hibernate is disabled by default. Hibernation used to work fine with 11.10. I tried pm-hibernate and exists without any output and an exit code of 1
[13:57] <chandru_in> How can I enable hibernation back?
[13:57] <pratz> L3top: there is no helpfull error message displayed, then how can i give you ?
[13:57] <Darael> pratz: See the query about "are there logs you can look at" for an answer to thy question.
[13:57] <joseph_> or better yet, I'm in the file folder, how do I remove that driver?
[13:57] <L3top> pratz: I again, ask, is there a file system? Can you look at it with a live cd, and look through anything in /var/log
[13:58] <Daekdroom> chandru_in, http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation-in-12-04
[13:58] <chandru_in> Daekdroom, that's how I got to know about pm-hibernate
[13:58] <pratz> L3top: there is not file system now, the harddisk is completed formatted
[13:58] <mn_> L3top Darael I'm back, what is it that I should do? I just chroot'd the system with the failed install. What now?
[13:58] <Daekdroom> chandru_in, that same page tells you how to make it permanent.
[13:58] <Darael> mn_: The chroot went through?
[13:59] <mn_> Darael Yes sir
[13:59] <chandru_in> Daekdroom, the point is pm-hibernate does not try to hibernate and exits with code 1
[13:59] <mn_> or ma'am
[13:59] <L3top> So pratz, it errors immediately when trying to install?
[13:59] <nitzs> pratz: where exactly does the installer crash?
[13:59] <pratz> guys this is really furstating now, 10 hrs guys!
[13:59] <chandru_in> I'm not sure why
[13:59] <Darael> mn_: Great.  I would suggest running "dpkg --configure -a" as a start.  And it's neither "sir" nor "ma'am" - I don't use titles :P
[13:59] <L3top> mn_: dpkg --configure -a
[13:59] <pratz> nitzs: when the installer asks for the country ( for time zone )
[13:59] <Simon1245> Hey guys, is there anyway to redownload Ubuntu 12.04? Without having to do it via a CD as it tells me it'll wipe everything
[14:00] <pratz> nitzs: Intaller says "Where are you from" or something like that
[14:00] <Darael> Simon1245: Thou'lt need to elaborate a bit.  What dost meant by "redownload" exactly?
[14:00] <mn_> Haha okay then Darael :) I'll run that command and see what happens guys
[14:00] <L3top> pratz: I would suspect the disk. Can you run the check cd utility?
[14:00] <auronandace> Simon1245: wipe everything?
[14:01] <Simon1245> Darael, I mean re install, I've messed it up and I keep getting up a lot of crashing messages, like basically reupgrade
[14:01] <fusk> What does it mean when a package in the software center says it's a dummy package ?
[14:01] <pratz> L3top: but i just now burned another disk, same thing
[14:01] <DarsVaeda> anyone with a two monitor setup using unity? how do I get rid of the second side panel on the second monitor?
[14:01] <compdoc> pratz, are you installing to an SSD?
[14:01] <pratz> compdoc: what is SSD ?
[14:01] <Simon1245> auronandace, I don't want to wipe everything, I want to re install ubuntu 12.04 without losing anything because it keeps getting me crash messages and stuff like that
[14:01] <compdoc> nm
[14:01] <usr13> pratz: I find installing from USB less problematic / easier
[14:01] <pratz> compdoc: it is 320gb hard disk
[14:01] <L3top> Did you burn it on the slowest speed possible? I mean... if you aren't going to follow the advice given, I don't really know why you are here jumping up and down like a Jack Russell terrier.
[14:01] <Darael> Simon1245: Ah, I see.  Well, if thou takest the manual partitioning option using the install CD, and choose to use the old root filesystem for / but /not/ to format it, it'll leave /home alone.  Any extra packages will still need reinstalling, but it's a lot better than a full wipe.
[14:02] <wN> does anybody else think that's BS?
[14:02] <wN> burn at a lower speed? why do they even make faster burners if they're unreliable?
[14:02] <minimec> DarsVaeda: Id your GPU supports xrandr, you can disable the launcher in the >settings >displays window
[14:02] <mn_> Okay it told me a lot of packages are not configured yet or there were "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" and then it told me "errors were encountered while processing: $names_of_packages_with_dependency_problems"
[14:02] <gaelfx> wN: because people buy things they think are faster, even if they're less reliable
[14:02] <Darael> wN: Faster burners aren't unreliable per se, it's just that lower speeds are /more/ reliable.
[14:03] <wN> gaelfx: i dont even think you can find a slow burner anymore
[14:03] <usr13> wN: some prolly are (unreliable at maximum speed).
[14:03] <nitzs> wN: it depens upon the media that you are using.
[14:03] <Simon1245> Darael, I got ushare that I don't wanna lose aswell as I can't remember who helped me fix it and it's really usefull for me
[14:03] <DarsVaeda> minimec: sorry did not understand
[14:03] <wN> i'd rather check an md5sum of the disk rather than reburn slower
[14:03] <gaelfx> wN: you can buy _anything_ in China
[14:03] <wN> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_CD
[14:03] <L3top> They make cheap burners wN. Buy a plextor or equiv and it isnt an issue, but you need to slap 40,000 dvd burners in your new dell products, you are buying theoretical burn speeds for 4 dollars each.
[14:03] <Darael> Simon1245: What is "ushare"?
[14:03] <minimec> DarsVaeda: check <System Settings <Displays
[14:03] <usr13> wN: I'd rather just use a thumb drive  :)
[14:04] <wN> i've burned all of my disks at top speed and never had a problem XD
[14:04] <gaelfx> whoa, cool, didn't know you could underline things that way :D
[14:04] <Simon1245> Darael, It lets you watch movies on Xbox through the computer without having to mess around with usb and shit like that transfering stuff
[14:04] <Simon1245> Even pictures and music works I think but I haven't tried music but pictures works for sure
[14:04] <DarsVaeda> minimec: wow cool thats new, thanks!
[14:05] <usr13> wN: Same here, (but you and I have probably only used a limited number of burners and brands of  media)
[14:05] <minimec> DarsVaeda: it is indeed ;)
[14:05] <Darael> mn_: Right.  Run it again, but this time send the output to a file (best to include stderr, too) ("sudo dpkg --configure -a 2>&1 | tee /path/to/file").  Pastebin the contents of the file for us and we'll see what can be done.
[14:05] <mn_> Darael L3top Okay it says failed to fetch $update_url something wicked happened resolving us.archive.ubuntu.com:http (-5 -no address associated with hostname) What causes that?
[14:06] <usr13> wN: Well, I take that back, I have, in fact, made a couple of coasters, and have not found a good reason for it.
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> i got trouble installing nntpgrab saying it needs nntpgrabcore, but cannot install it
[14:06] <Darael> mn_: DNS lookup is failing.  Is the system connected to the net?
[14:06] <mn_> Darael yes
[14:06] <joseph_> geez thanks for your help!!! google isn't helping either
[14:06] <gaelfx> mn_: you aren't in China, are you? GFW'll do that sometimes
[14:06] <wN> Simon1245: if you do a custom partitioning scheme you should be able to avoid formatting the file-system. personally, i create /home and store my important stuff there, and then skip formating that partition during re-installations
[14:06] <Darael> !patience | joseph_
[14:06] <usr13> mn cat /etc/resolv.conf    #See what's there.
[14:07] <Abhijit> joseph_, whats your question?
[14:07] <Darael> usr13: Good call, yes.
[14:07] <wN> joseph_: is your question 'how do i do a command line install'?
[14:07] <mn_> gaelfx No I'm in the US
[14:07] <usr13> mn_: Look in  /etc/resolv.conf    #See if a proper nameserver is listed there.
[14:07] <Simon1245> wN, How do you make a custom partitioning scheme?
[14:07] <Tinti> mn_: what do you get from ping -c4 8.8.8.8 and dig www.google.com @8.8.8.8
[14:07] <wN> joseph_: you'll probably need to use the alternate installation media
[14:07] <Darael> mn_: Open another terminal, one outside the chroot, and see what the live-CD's /etc/resolv.conf contains.  Ideally, the one in the chroot ought to have the same contents.
[14:07] <gaelfx> good night, #ubuntu
[14:08] <b0ot_> I added a user with the adduser command and now I want to give the user admin rights
[14:08] <serard> hello
[14:08] <b0ot_> how would I do that
[14:08] <b0ot_> 10.04
[14:08] <mn_> usr13 I can browse the net on FF. Wouldn't I have to have a proper nameserver for that?
[14:08] <Darael> usr13: It almost certainly won't - we're fixing a broken system from a chroot in a live CD.
[14:08] <joseph_> How do I get to recovery mode in kubuntu? I tried ect and shift method and booting to the cd. none worked.
[14:08] <wN> Simon1245: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/04/manual-disk-partitioning-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04/
[14:08] <Darael> b0ot_: sudo adduser <username> admin
[14:08] <Simon1245> wN, Thanks :)
[14:08] <fusk> What does it mean when a package in the software center says it's a dummy package ?
[14:08] <usr13> mn_: Can you ping an outside IP address?  (like 8.8.8.8 ) ?
[14:08] <Drvanon> hello people, we went from xp to ubuntu (indeed smart choice) but we didn't think about mail and stuff. To make a LOOONNGG story short, i have a .wab file and hope to be able to use it in thunderbird any ideas?
[14:08] <jpds> b0ot_ / Darael: It's sudo adduser <username> sudo on 12.04 now.
[14:08] <serard> I'm on the live cd (linux mint, ubuntu derivative), I fucked my install by installing latest kernel 3.3.3 using .deb files (as I'm on Mint and not Ubuntu). How can I remove this kernel image from the grub given I'm on the live cd ?
[14:08] <Darael> mn_: Don't forget, the inside of the chroot isn't using the same resolv.conf as the outside.  The outside could work without the inside doing so.
[14:08] <joseph_> sorry about being impatient, I just don't want this to go one all day.
[14:09] <Darael> jpds: b0ot_ specified Lucid.
[14:09] <joseph_> it worked fine until I installed that nvidia driver!
[14:09] <bazhang> serard, no cursing, and get mintsupport
[14:09] <usr13> mn_: pastebinit /etc/resolv.conf   #Let us have a look.
[14:09] <bazhang> !mintsupport | serard
[14:09] <Abhijit> !details | joseph_
[14:09] <z3bra> Can someone help me please ? I can't manage to set nautilus as the default app for opening folders. It actually launch gnome-terminal when I "gnome-open <folder>" :/
[14:09] <mn_> Yeah, ping and dig are both giving 0% packet loss from inside the chroot term
[14:10] <mn_> Yeah, ping and dig are both giving 0% packet loss from inside the chroot term Darael
[14:10] <usr13> mn_: Then what is your porblem?
[14:10] <pythoneles> hello everyone, can anyone please help me out to get my ecryptfs home back from a previous ubuntu install?
[14:10] <Darael> mn_: in the chroot term, run "dig us.archive.ubuntu.com" for me, please.
[14:10] <L3top> joseph_: why dont you try chrooting from the live cd and revert back to the .40 driver (nvidia-current)
[14:10] <mn_> usr13 dpkg and apt-get DNS lookups are failing
[14:10] <Abhijit> pythoneles, do ecryptfs-mount-private in terminal
[14:10] <Darael> mn_: If that works, try running the one that failed again.  Otherwise, we'll need to change thy mirror.
[14:10] <usr13> mn_: pastebinit /etc/resolv.conf   #Let us have a look.
[14:11] <pythoneles> Abhijit, yeah tried that, it mounts on a tmp dir, but how can i link that to my new user?
[14:11] <mn_> Darael digging that failed
[14:11] <Drvanon>  hello people, we went from xp to ubuntu (indeed smart choice) but we didn't think about mail and stuff. To make a LOOONNGG story short, i have a .wab file and hope to be able to use it in thunderbird any ideas?
[14:11] <joseph_> l3top, did you see my post? I posted what options the live cd gave me, it was only to install or try kubuntu, nothing about recovery or even a command prompt
[14:11] <mn_> usr13 okay one moment
[14:11] <usr13> mn_: Or decide for yourself if you have a working nameserver at the top of the list.
[14:12] <doktah> could anyone please help me with ATI multi displays
[14:12] <ThePendulum> Is there a way to create a Windows USB stick from within Ubuntu?
[14:12] <usr13> mn_: If it is your router make sure your router's caching nameserver is turned on.
[14:12] <Darael> mn_: But digging other things works, yes?  In that case, "sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d" and change mirrors.  Removing the "us." is one option - that'll use the central mirror.
[14:12] <Abhijit> pythoneles, this my help http://askubuntu.com/questions/113765/recovering-data-from-private-in-an-ecryptfs-backup-when-the-new-home-is-also-enc
[14:12] <theadmin> ThePendulum: winusb can work for Vista/7/8
[14:12] <jellow> ~
[14:12] <JayWalker_> ThePendulum, define "windows usb stick", as in formatted with FAT?
[14:12] <Simon1245> How can I check what partition I got Ubuntu in?
[14:12] <mn_> usr13: all that file contains is a single line that says "# Generated by NetworkManager"
[14:12] <ThePendulum> JayWalker_: I mean a USB stick with a Windows installation on it ;)
[14:12] <L3top> joseph_: the cd doesnt give you the recovery option... your hd does. I am suggesting a different way, but if you have been trying to get to recovery from cd, then eject it, and boot to hd while pressing shift  over and over
[14:13] <joseph_> wow, there is a lot of questions on here today! no wonder I don't get any answers. :(
[14:13] <ThePendulum> theadmin: I am trying that one now, but the first attempt resulted in an error. Going to try a second time
[14:13] <Abhijit> Simon1245, gparted will show you mount points
[14:13] <ThePendulum> joseph_: What is your question? :O
[14:13] <usr13> mn_: echo 8.8.8.8 | cat >> /etc/resolv.conf
[14:13] <theadmin> ThePendulum: Are you running it as root? (you have to)
[14:13] <usr13> mn_: echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 | cat >> /etc/resolv.conf
[14:13] <Simon1245> Abhijit, Thanks :(
[14:13] <mn_> Darael: Okay, thank you. Yes, digging google and other sites works. I'll try switching to the central mirror right quick
[14:13] <Simon1245> Abhijit, :)**
[14:13] <joseph_> l3top, I tried that, but it only flashes and goes back to blank screen again.
[14:13] <Abhijit> O.o
[14:13] <pythoneles> Abhijit, thank you, going to try that
[14:13] <mn_> which one of those to run usr13
[14:14] <Darael> mn_: The latter.
[14:14] <usr13> mn_: In other words, place a valid nameserver in the /etc/resolv.conf  and you'll probably do better.
[14:14] <ThePendulum> theadmin: It requested my password for certain permissions, but I'll try to start is as root when this fails as well
[14:14] <L3top> joseph_: people are giving you answers, you just aren't paying attention. Then BOOT TO THE LIVE CD AND CHROOT INTO THE HD
[14:14] <theadmin> ThePendulum: Oh, if it did then it's okay.
[14:14] <joseph_> I am in the live version now and can access my drives, anyway to manually delete that driver?
[14:14] <ThePendulum> theadmin: I'm indeed pretty sure that meant it is running as root
[14:14]  * L3top walks away
[14:14] <mn_> Darael that file has nothing in it
[14:15] <usr13> mn_: And check the router's settings, (paying attention to DNS particularly).
[14:15] <Darael> mn_: That's because I typo'd.  It's a directory.  Edit /etc/apt/sources.list (no .d) instead.
[14:15] <testi> I want to buy something in the software-center, but it says Payment unsuccessful, reason: 3dsecure. Yes 3d-secure may pop up and ask for additional credentials, but why does it become a unsuccessful reason? Because Software Center is incompatible with VISA?
[14:16] <Darael> testi: I agree it's an unhelpful message.  Nevertheless, what it means is "3dsecure is indicating failure and I don't know what kind".
[14:16] <doktah> could anyone please help me with ATI multi displays
[14:17] <Simon1245> http://tinypic.com/r/2db9r7k/6 :S Which one has Ubuntu in it?
[14:17] <Darael> !somebody | doktah
[14:17] <testi> Darael, okay - then probably the reason is that it doesn't popup..
[14:17] <kobiluruz> i installed the newest ubuntu today and been playing around a bit with it. for me who has used MS in all my years. this is just awefull to use. not even a start menu :p i saw something called kde that is simmelar to MS, how do i install this ?
[14:17] <Vessel> Hello again, Having troubles loading the LiveCD, Grub loads, but try/install options give me two errors : " error: couldn't read file" AND " error: you need to load the kernel first" MD5 is Ok, CD burned a lot of times...
[14:17] <Darael> testi: I'm afraid I'm not actually an expert on that.
[14:17] <theadmin> !purekde | kobiluruz
[14:18] <auronandace> Simon1245: sda8, why do you have 3 swap partitions?
[14:18] <mn_> usr13: What would you suggest using as my nameserver
[14:18] <joseph_> ok team, I got into recovery mode. thank you for your help, I'll take it from here! :)
[14:18] <Simon1245> auronandace, No idea :S I haven't made them lol they came automactally I think
[14:18] <Darael> kobiluruz: Firstly, give it a chance - it's different, but it's not necessarily bad.  Second, Kubuntu is the KDE version of Ubuntu, and theadmin just had the bot provide instructions for that.
[14:18] <Darael> mn_: Google public DNS is a reasonable choice:  8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[14:18] <doktah> Does anyone have the time to please tell me how to log in as a super user so I can change setting with ati multi displays, thanks.
[14:18] <hylian> !linux-crashdump
[14:19] <hylian> !crashdump
[14:19] <doktah> Does anyone have the time to please tell me how to log in as a super user so I can change setting with ati multi displays?
[14:19] <doktah> sorry
[14:19] <hylian> worth a try
[14:19] <auronandace> !sudo | doktah
[14:19] <mn_> Darael: Both of them? Also, how do I format the resolv.conf file?
[14:19] <kobiluruz> Darael, i gave it a try. its bad for me. you know. its hard to teach a old dog new tricks. same goes for me and gui :p
[14:19] <Vessel> Hello again, Having troubles loading the LiveCD, Grub loads, but try/install options give me two errors : " error: couldn't read file" AND " error: you need to load the kernel first" MD5 is Ok, CD burned a lot of times...
[14:19] <fusk> What's a dummy package, seen in software center.
[14:19] <mn_> Still no good :(
[14:19] <hylian> i installed linux-crashdump, but I cannot find how to use it. My acer aspire one crashes if i reboot, it's been that way since 11.10.
[14:20] <Darael> kobiluruz: Fair enough, I suppose.  Look at the instructions the bot pointed at, then.
[14:20] <mn_> I changed to central mirror and included those IP addresses in the resolv.conf file and I'm still getting the same errors L3top Darael usr13
[14:21] <Darael> mn_: Pastebin the resolv.conf, please?
[14:21] <theadmin> fusk: It's a package used simply to provide other packages (as dependencies), mostly for ease-of-use and/or compatibility reasons.
[14:21] <mn_> Okay, I found part of the problem, libc6 needs to be reinstalled, but the ssytem can't find an archive for it
[14:22] <Simon1245> By the way is there any repair option in the cd that I can run while being on it? Like it repairs the whole ubuntu instead of doing a complete reinstall?
[14:22] <fusk> theadmin, so it's not just an empty install.
[14:23] <Darael> mn_: If it won't download, it's possible to use apt-get download outside the chroot, and stick it in $CHROOT/var/cache/apt/archives.
[14:23] <theadmin> fusk: Well, dummy packages normally DO have no content, indeed, they *are* empty pretty much...
[14:23] <mn_> Darael usr13 pastebin.com/SLGxthMV
[14:23] <Vessel> Hello again, Having troubles loading the LiveCD, Grub loads, but try/install options give me two errors : " error: couldn't read file" AND " error: you need to load the kernel first" MD5 is Ok, CD burned a lot of times...
[14:23] <b0ot_> I created a user with useradd foo admin
[14:23] <b0ot_> however when I tried to do a sudo with that user
[14:23] <b0ot_> it said i wasn't in the sudoers file
[14:23] <b0ot_> 10.04
[14:24] <jrib> b0ot_: yes, you need to add your user to the admin group
[14:24] <killer> hi.....is there any way to install unity in other linux distro's
[14:24] <theadmin> b0ot_: That's not a valid useradd syntax, it's "adduser foo admin" instead. Don't mess commands (useradd is low-level)
[14:24] <LjL> killer: you should ask in the channel for the relevant distro
[14:24] <b0ot_> theadmin: i did adduser... i just mistyped
[14:24] <auronandace> killer: there may be, depending on the distro (unity is in aur for archlinux)
[14:24] <jrib> b0ot_: you need to log out and back in then
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> anyone using nntpgrab? i got some trouble installing
[14:25] <theadmin> b0ot_: Oh, okay. When you log in as that user, does "groups" list admin?
[14:25] <saml> can I remove gnome-keyring?
[14:25] <killer> auronandace: i am using opensuse
[14:25] <auronandace> killer: then ask in #opensuse
[14:25] <theadmin> saml: If you don't need the password storage mechanism, sure. Please note that NetworkManager won't properly remember wi-fi passwords and such anymore.
[14:25] <L3top> mn_: try this... add deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt precise main restricted universe multiverse  and  deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt precise-updates main restricted universe multiverse         to your /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update
[14:25] <b0ot_> groups?
[14:25] <Darael> mn_: Yeah, that resolv.conf won't help.  Add a "nameserver " before each IP.
[14:25] <joseph_> ok google isn't helping again! I need to uninstall this nvidia driver using root shell prompt. How do I do that?
[14:25] <b0ot_> my gui section is disabled for users i can only do cli
[14:25] <saml> theadmin, i see.. it just prints a lot of WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-cxPsIx/pkcs11:
[14:26] <b0ot_> theadmin: can I just add a line
[14:26] <killer> haha.....i went there...they say ...ask in ubuntu ...n in ubuntu"ask in #suse..funny haa:auronandace
[14:26] <b0ot_> foo ALL=(ALL) ALL
[14:26] <fusk> theadmin, i see, i thought it would be, so when you see a dummy package, you know that program has to be download frmo their website and installed through terminal, right?
[14:26] <minimec> saml: You can change the keyring password to 'blank' (nothing). Like that you will not be prompted for a password. I don't think it's a good idea to uninstall it.
[14:26] <b0ot_> in my sudoers file?
[14:26] <theadmin> b0ot_: Why sure.
[14:26] <theadmin> b0ot_: Use "visudo" to edit sudoers though
[14:26] <auronandace> killer: well, only they can say if they support it
[14:26] <saml> I do   svn up   and it prints that warning from gnome-keyring
[14:27] <Darael> mn_: Like so: http://pastebin.com/ncY0XK0K
[14:27] <Vessel> Hello again, Having troubles loading the LiveCD, Grub loads, but try/install options give me two errors : " error: couldn't read file" AND " error: you need to load the kernel first" MD5 is Ok, CD burned a lot of times...
[14:27] <mn_> Holy hell. Adding those helped A LOT, but it still failed to resolve 4 of them and more may fail as it continues. It's not done yet
[14:27] <Simon1245> Thanks for help everyone, going to reinstall it :) Bye :)
[14:27] <z3bra> How can I set default app to open folders please ?
[14:28] <mn_> Yeah, that time it just failed to resolve 9 instead of all of them usr13 Darael :D
[14:28] <L3top> I wouldnt worry about the ones that fail if those mirrors provide the actual packages needed
[14:28] <Vessel> Hello again, Having troubles loading the LiveCD, Grub loads, but try/install options give me two errors : " error: couldn't read file" AND " error: you need to load the kernel first" MD5 is Ok, CD burned a lot of times. I cant find any info related on google.
[14:29] <L3top> Vessel try and make a bootable thumbdrive instead. USB are prone to a lot fewer failures
[14:29] <mn_> Wow, why did I need to specify nameservers?
[14:29] <Darael> !patience | Vessel
[14:29] <Darael> Vessel: Sounds like it's having trouble loading the kernel, so that it then doesn't like the initrd.
[14:29] <mn_> Why would it not come with some specified. How is it expected to work like that?
[14:29] <frybye> Vessel - what speed did you burn the cd at? Did you let the programm check the cd after burning?
[14:30] <Darael> mn_: Normally network-manager autogenerates /etc/resolv.conf, but in a chroot it's not running.
[14:30] <twoten> I upgraded to 12.04 and lost my wireless, anyone up on wireless repair?
[14:30] <Vessel> L3top:  Cant use a USB drive instead,  i dont have any :/
[14:30] <Darael> !anyone | twoten
[14:30] <mn_> At any rate, this is some progress, and I think this may have me well on my way to fixing the problem. Thanks guys! and Ahh I see
[14:30] <L3top> Vessel let go of the 5 dollars. Otherwise follow frybyes advice
[14:31] <Vessel> frybye: I've checked the CD, always burned at its lowest,
[14:31] <kx> the funniest part about this is all he had to do was copy /etc/resolv.conf from the system into the chroot jail but i've been enjoying watching this anyway. cant wait to see what happens on the dpkg front with my bowl of popcorn
[14:31] <twoten> I tried running ifconfig up but it says unknown device for ever variation of wlan, wlan0 etc, How can I find out my device name?
[14:31] <minimec> z3bra: ? nautilus would be the default app to open files in ubuntu, like 'nautilus Desktop'. Do you mean that?
[14:31] <Vessel> I think this is related to AHCI Mode in Bios, But IDE mode makes the grub to dont load after installation.
[14:32] <Darael> kx: That's only what I advocated from the beginning.  Why not be helpful instead of snarky?
[14:32] <acer-ubuntu> l3top: i am back
[14:32] <kx> Darael: i was the most helpful here. reinstalling was and still is the best way to go
[14:32] <Darael> twoten: Try ifconfig -a to get it to list interfaces that aren't up.
[14:32] <hylian> !crash
[14:32] <L3top> obvious troll is obvious
[14:33] <z3bra> minimec: Yes, but actually, when I run "xdg-open <folder>" I get a gnome-terminal openned on ~/
[14:33] <Darael> L3top: I'm terrible at refraining from feeding them.  I try, but I just can't stop myself.
[14:33] <kx> hope glibc complains about version 1.4 that would be icing on the cake 8]
[14:34] <hylian> how do i use crash? (linux-crashdump)? I have read the man pages, but still don't get it. why do they assume you know where anything is? oh well.
[14:34] <minimec> z3bra: strange. For me it opens nautilus...
[14:34] <twoten> hmmm, I get eth0 and lo but no mention of wlan, the blue light showing wireless is orange so it seems that ifconfig can't even see my device and yet it shows up in lspci and dmesg
[14:35] <Darael> twoten: I was going to ask about lspci.  Wouldst thou pastebin the relevant bit of dmesg (and a few lines either side, just in case) for us?
[14:35] <z3bra> minimec: One day, i tried to open a terminal in a special working dir, and did "open with > gnome-terminal"
[14:35] <z3bra> Since this day, I can't go back to the previous setting
[14:36] <z3bra> It still open a gnome-terminal
[14:36] <Darael> z3bra: I presume thou hast tried running nautilus from a terminal, and then doing the open with thing again to revert it?
[14:37] <joseph_> NOTHING is working on this thing?
[14:37] <z3bra> YEs
[14:37] <joseph_> never mind, I'm not reposting and starting over again.
[14:37] <z3bra> But this don't work :/
[14:37] <z3bra> My default.list is set to nautilus.desktop for inode/directory
[14:37] <ome> The upgrade me my Java based IDE fonts ugly. where should I look for making changes ?
[14:37] <L3top> twoten: what does lspci say that it is?
[14:38] <ome> the IDE is netbeans.
[14:38] <ome> made*
[14:40] <fusk> Darael, You mentioned conky, would you know anything about how to use it?
[14:40] <ome> nevermind.
[14:40] <Darael> fusk: Not really, sorry.
[14:40] <jrib> z3bra: what defaults.list are you checking?
[14:40] <Darael> fusk: It's one of those things I always meant to play with but never did.
[14:40] <fidel_> fusk: in general? launch it with -c and path to your config file - which defines what to display
[14:40] <z3bra> /usr/share/applications/default.list
[14:41] <z3bra> jrib:
[14:41] <fidel_> fusk: you'll find tons of example config files in the web
[14:41] <fusk> Darael, no problem, was just hoping.
[14:41] <L3top> twoten: lspci | grep irele
[14:41] <jrib> zebe42: first of all, that's the system-wide setting.  You would want to check ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list .  Second of all, I think (though I'm not sure so check both) it's now ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[14:41]  * L3top is a lazy grepper
[14:42] <prc384> do shell scripts have to end in .sh
[14:42]  * jrib wonders waht an irele is
[14:42] <fusk> fidel_, i do not know how to do that, was hoping for a gui.
[14:42] <jrib> prc384: no
[14:42] <krey_> hello, how can I install the broadcom-wl drivers?
[14:42] <sre> prc384, no.
[14:42] <sre> :D
[14:42] <prc384> i created a script in my /bin directory and i tried to run it by typing its name and i got no command found
[14:42] <Darael> prc384: No, but it's a useful memory hook.
[14:42] <L3top> jrib a lazy way to get Wireless across without dealing with missed cap or -i because I am lazy
[14:43] <jrib> prc384: type: hash -r   and then try again
[14:43] <Darael> prc384: Does it have a shebang?
[14:43] <z3bra> Nice jrib ! It was effectively in my local setting
[14:43] <z3bra> thanks !
[14:43] <L3top> !broadcom | krey_
[14:43] <jrib> z3bra: no problem
[14:44] <Darael> prc384: As a general note, if the script doesn't need to be accessible to everyone, it's probably better to put it in, say, ~/scripts, and add that to thy personal $PATH.
[14:44] <prc384> ok
[14:44] <fusk> fidel_, just to clarify, i installed 12.04 like 4 days ago, and have absolutely no previous knowledge of linux, besides a live cd some years ago.
[14:44] <jrib> prc384, Darael: if you use ~/bin, the default ~/.profile has a clause to automatically add ~/bin to the path
[14:44] <meganerd> Darael: convention is usually ~/bin
[14:45] <Darael> jrib: So it does.  Well caught.
[14:45] <sre> prc384, the end of files help you identify them. Some editors use .sh .c .php endings to identify and individual behavior like color, highlight, and much more
[14:45] <prc384> so i would have to run it with ~/bin/script_name
[14:45] <prc384> ?
[14:45] <twoten> I do lspci | grep Network and get this: 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[14:45] <jrib> prc384: nope, just "script_name"
[14:45] <prc384> Yeah didnt work.
[14:45] <L3top> !broadcom | twoten
[14:45] <twoten> but dmesg | grep Broadcom shows nothing
[14:46] <fidel_> fusk: well ... in case you want to use it - consider reading the manual or some howto. it might look difficult at start - but it youstart based on some config from the web it should work petty much out of the box if you spend 10 minutes.
[14:46] <jrib> prc384: well, if you use ~/bin, you need to either log out and back in or do « source ~/.profile »
[14:46] <Darael> prc384: Nope - if ~/bin/ is in $PATH, it should run with just "script_name".
[14:46] <z3bra> jrib: You talked about ~/bin that is added to the $PATH by default, is it ubuntu specific ?
[14:46] <fidel_> otherwise: its eye-candy basically - so no must-have app
[14:46] <Darael> prc384: Or 'PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"', of course.
[14:46] <prc384> Sorry it was permissions error
[14:47] <jrib> z3bra: it's in ubuntu's default ~/.profile, see /etc/skel/.profile .  I don't know if that comes from debian (my guess is yes)
[14:47] <prc384> for some reason it defaulted to 555 as permission
[14:47] <sre> prc384, chmod +x filename
[14:47] <prc384> yeah 755 it already and it worked
[14:47] <meganerd> prc384: did you make the script executable?  Is there #!/bin/bash as the first line (or whatever is appropriate for the language that you used)?
[14:47] <prc384> ty
[14:47] <jrib> 555 shouldn't prevent you from executing something anyway
[14:47] <prc384> yep meganerd
[14:47] <z3bra> jrib: okay, so it is just specified by default in the .profile
[14:47] <z3bra> Thanks =)
[14:47] <prc384> only read no execute with 555
[14:48] <pedroTI> good morning
[14:48] <theadmin> prc384: 555 = (4+1)(4+1)(4+1) = ugo=rx
[14:48] <jrib> prc384: 555 means everyone can read and execute but no one can write
[14:48] <sre> prc384, #!/bin/bash is needed at the top of your scriptfile
[14:49] <wolter> how should I build the STA driver with bcmwl-kernel-source package?
[14:49] <fusk> fidel_,  that's how i've survived so far :) but sometimes the how tos can be quite cryptic for the average eyes,
[14:49] <pedroTI> who install AMSN in ubuntu 12.4
[14:49] <sre> wolter, you can enable STA in your Makefile
[14:50] <fusk> fidel_, will try google some more, see if i can't find something. thanks for you help.
[14:50] <L3top> !broadcom | wolter
[14:51] <twoten> there seems to be a lot of Broadcom issues with 12.04, just my small observation
[14:51] <pedroTI> and skype
[14:52] <sre> I haven't noticed more problems in PP than earlier releases w/broadcom
[14:52] <L3top> it is across all ubuntu twoten. Terrible hw
[14:53] <sre> pedroTI, what about Skype?
[14:53] <fidel_> fusk: there is #conky - and maybe as a starting point: http://wiki.conky.be/index.php?title=Conky_Wiki
[14:53] <pedroTI> install skype and amsn
[14:54] <Darael> Hmm, the !terminal factoid is out of date by several releases - it things we still have an applications->accessories menu.
[14:54] <pedroTI> in ubuntu 12
[14:54] <sre> pedroTI, yes. both infact. Do you have problem with either of them ?
[14:55] <pedroTI> who
[14:55] <sre> pedroTI, skype or/and amsn
[14:55] <belak> What possible reasons are there for me being unable to assign Super-Shift-Right to a key bind, but I can do the same thing with all other directions?
[14:56] <datruth> does memtest restart itself?
[14:56] <pedroTI> skype and amsn
[14:56] <sj> hi
[14:56] <Darael> belak: At a guess, something's interrupting it before it gets to whatever handles the binding.  No idea what.  Maybe use xev to see if it's getting to the X server, at least?
[14:57] <Darael> belak: I'd expect it to be, but one never knows.
[14:57] <sj> hello
[14:57] <cost> I need some help for editing initrd.lz .... I want to want to disable live cd plymouth completely... Help please to get started
[14:57] <TheBuntu> was in mint 12.. installed kubuntu 12.04 last night.. Think this is ubuntu's best!! boot time faster.. apt-get faster.. smaller memory useage
[14:57] <sre> pedroTI, I downloaded skype from the website. I think I needed ia32-libs for installing. But that I need to check
[14:58] <pedroTI> I can not install amsn
[14:58] <pedroTI> and skype
[14:58] <ThePendulum> TheBuntu: My personal favorite definitely is Xubuntu. KDE just looks so amateuristic by default already
[14:58] <TheBuntu> ThePendulum: i like kde
[14:58] <sre> pedroIT, a sec. will check the dependencies for skype
[14:59] <sj> 没有想象到好用。。。
[14:59] <ThePendulum> TheBuntu: All those gradients and glows and transparancy and blurs and stuff collides with my simplistic preferrences
[14:59] <ThePendulum> *collide
[14:59] <L3top> !cn | sj
[14:59] <pedroTI> I download skype-ubuntu_2.2.0.35-1_i386.deb
[15:00] <DarkStar1> Hi, I am following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/openldap-server.html#openldap-server-installation to try and install an ldap server, however I can't log in as it refuses to accept the password I entered during the creation process, nor recognise the correct dn as defined in my /etc/hosts/ file
[15:00] <xskydevilx> Where does Crossover install itself?
[15:00] <pedroTI> and not instaled
[15:00] <belak> Darael: Ah, didn't think of checking with xev
[15:00] <DarkStar1> has anyone tried to do this recently and encountered the same problem?
[15:02] <belak> Darael: ok, I just tried it... it'll accept the Super key, and the Shift key, but not the right key while they're held down
[15:02] <sre> pedroIT, which Ubuntu installation do you run ? if you installed 64bit you need to apt-get install ia32-libs (for multiarch)
[15:03] <Darael> belak: How fascinating.  I'm afraid I have no idea what could be causing it.
[15:03] <belak> Darael: it will, however, accept Super+Right and Shift+Right
[15:03] <belak> And Alt+Right
[15:03] <belak> Heh
[15:03] <georgelappies> are the zsync servers working? can't seem to download the DVD with zsync?
[15:04] <neattoast> georgelappies: check on isup.me
[15:04] <Karmaon> are there any packet generators anyone prefers over the others?
[15:06] <neattoast> Karmaon: I just love ping.
[15:07] <neattoast> :)
[15:07] <Darael> !poll | Karmaon: I agree with neattoast, and
[15:07] <georgelappies> thanks neattoast
[15:08] <iceroot> xskydevilx: dpkg -L crossover
[15:08] <Karmaon> thanks
[15:08] <BrianH> Hey guys, quick question.  I have a LAMP server setup with vsftpd configured.  How can I add the www directory access to the user accounts while maintaining chroot_local_user?
[15:09] <craigbass1976> I type echo $JAVA_HOME into a terminal, and get nothing.  however, I'm able to run java apps.  Eh?
[15:09] <jrib> craigbass1976: why are you surprised?
[15:10] <craigbass1976> jrib, is this a trick question?
[15:10] <jrib> craigbass1976: no?
[15:11] <jhsuh> hi
[15:12] <neattoast> do you have a problem?
[15:12] <UICTamale> does unity support any 'official' way to totally do away with the global app menu?
[15:13] <neattoast> I think that is supposed to be a feature of 12.10, so no.
[15:14] <djszapi> hey, what package installs libIL on ubuntu ?
[15:15] <djszapi> libdevil ?
[15:15] <kel_> www.google.com
[15:15] <kel_> could help you out alot
[15:15] <kel_> with package names
[15:15] <neattoast> !patience > djszapi
[15:15] <iceroot> djszapi: libdevil-dev
[15:15] <iceroot> kel_: no need such answers here
[15:16] <iceroot> kel_: the better answer would be "apt-file search libIL"
[15:16] <belak> Where are the shortcuts set for Super-1 and Super-2? I can't find them.
[15:16] <djszapi> yep, it was "libdevil1c2".
[15:16] <djszapi> iceroot: thanks
[15:17] <dresden> usb 3.0 problems anyone???
[15:17] <kel_> iceroot_: i was merely giving him a helping hand for later
[15:17] <n1> anyone uses aircrack?
[15:17] <LjL> !anyone
[15:17] <mn_> I've used aircrack ng
[15:17] <iceroot> kel_: google is not welcome here as an answer, sorry
[15:18] <LjL> kel_: no need to give google when we have http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[15:18] <dresden> ubottu, questions usually do follow a set pattern...irc + ubuntu doesn't change the rules
[15:19] <dresden> ubottu, evidently
[15:19] <Sidewinder> Heh,.
[15:19] <LjL> dresden: whether you like it or not we do have specific rules here though, which involve not asking "anyone" questions
[15:20] <dresden> oh ok, Does someone have a problem with usb 3.0
[15:20] <craigbass1976> jrib, we're running a java app with a signature pad.  The sigpad keeps choking.  I'm supposed to "modify" my environment and add this "LOG4J_configuration=file:///home/me/filename"  I'm not sure at all how to proceed.  I'm using Sun's java, not openjava, as openjava always causes printing problems.
[15:20] <LjL> i wish i had USB 3.0 in the first place!
[15:20] <iceroot> !details | dresden
[15:20] <dresden> i like how you guys are so on point with "etiquette" yet completely useless otherwise
[15:21] <storyteller> Hi, In an interview today I was asked how to set a thresh hold limit for on sever so that it doesnt cross the value 1.Googled but unable to find answer.
[15:21] <iceroot> dresden: you have an ubuntu related support question?
[15:21] <dresden> yes
[15:21] <theadmin> dresden: You have to actually ask something before anyone can be useful.
[15:21] <LjL> dresden: if you have a problem with the rules take it to #ubuntu-ops, otherwise ask a specific question including details of what the problem is etc
[15:21] <L3top> I like how easily you are offended having not posed an actual question.
[15:21] <dresden> oh shut up dude
[15:21] <L3top> That will get you helped.
[15:21] <jrib> craigbass1976: have you tried adding that to your environment?
[15:21] <Poindexter_> What is all of the fuss with the new Ubuntu release? Can anyone sum it up in two sentences?
[15:21] <kel_> Poin its new...
[15:21] <LjL> Poindexter_: there's fuss at every release. there's nothing particularly special about this one
[15:21] <jpds> Poindexter_: Why don't you download the LiveCD and find out for yourself?
[15:21] <neattoast> Poindexter: hud, speed, privacy
[15:22] <jiffe98> anyone know why I might be getting this error or where I can look to find out why? http://nsab.us/public/slapd
[15:22] <craigbass1976> jrib, I don't know how.  Last time I messed with java environments, it was in Fedora3 and I had a .bash_profile I had to dork with.
[15:22] <theadmin> Poindexter_: Most of the fuss is because it's LTS. People seem to think that means more stable.
[15:22] <iceroot> Poindexter_: LTS
[15:22] <auronandace> Poindexter_: its a lts release, it will be around for 5 years (first lts with unity)
[15:22] <nishtta2> can Ubuntu support 2 graphics cards on the system?
[15:22] <jrib> craigbass1976: you can place things in ~/.profile
[15:22] <iceroot> nishtta2: yes
[15:22] <Poindexter_> I noticed that it is starting to become bloatware.
[15:22] <n1> an aircrack user perhaps?
[15:22] <jpds> !ot | Poindexter_
[15:22] <theadmin> Poindexter_: You can try Lubuntu or Xubuntu for a lighter experience.
[15:22] <dresden> not interested in help, or a lesson channel rules...has anyone else expereince problems with usb 3.0 on 12.04???
[15:22] <jrib> craigbass1976: but to text, you can just go in your shell, do « export LOG_WHATEVER_BLAH=XYZ » and then run apps inside that instance of your shell
[15:22] <nishtta2> iceroot, i had nvidia quadro NVS 420 running 4 monitors and that was a nightmare
[15:23] <Poindexter_> I have used XUbuntu and it is a lot lighter.
[15:23] <nishtta2> iceroot, someone suggested that i should go with AMD
[15:23] <TheBuntu> i trying out the ppa mainstream kernels... 3.3.3 seems really good so far... 3.4.0 rc4 was runing good until i opened gnome-mplayer then video had some lag in it !
[15:23] <neattoast> dresden: Are you from dresden?
[15:23] <dresden> simple question, is it not?
[15:23] <dresden> oh fuck you morons
[15:23] <LjL> n1: as i said, don't ask "anyone" questions. ask about your *specific* problem with aircrack (however, note we don't support illegal activities here, just in case, and that there is an aircrack-specific channel)
[15:23] <theadmin> TheBuntu: Unofficial kernels are unsupported.
[15:23] <auronandace> dresden: what would you say next if somebody said yes?
[15:23] <Poindexter_> XUbuntu has changed it's apt-get policies though.
[15:23] <Pouncer> hello all how is everyone today
[15:23] <oldwzd> dresden: yes, and no we wont tell you anything as you behave like a shild
[15:23] <nishtta2> iceroot, so now i have 2 AMDs each has 2 monitors hooked up
[15:23] <Sidewinder> dresden, I am just guessing, of course, but I would assume that no one is experiencing problems with USB 3.
[15:23] <FunnyLookinHat> My network notification disappeared - what package can I install to make it come back?
[15:23] <jrib> craigbass1976: s/text/test
[15:24] <neattoast> FunnyLookinHat: networkmanager
[15:24] <L3top> That isn't what this channel is for dresden. I am sure people have experienced difficulty with every piece of hw out there... be it pebkac or otherwise... if you have an ACTUAL USEFUL question, feel free to ask it.
[15:24] <storyteller> i`ll be back.
[15:24] <nishtta2> iceroot, so far i am only seeing displays hooked up to one card.. so asked
[15:24] <FunnyLookinHat> neattoast, great thanks
[15:24] <Poindexter_> Debian seems to be the lightest weight kernel with VBOX.
[15:24] <theadmin> FunnyLookinHat: That'd be "networkmanager" (or something along the lines. Might be "nm-applet" or "networkmanager-gnome" or somesuch)
[15:24] <jrib> craigbass1976: I must leave now
[15:24] <neattoast> FunnyLookinHat: welcome
[15:24] <craigbass1976> jrib, thank you.  You're awesome
[15:24] <beefcafe> hi,  I'm trying to use monotone on ubuntu. it says error while loading shared libraries: libbotan-1.8.2.so: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory. but I do have libbotan-1.8.2
[15:24] <FunnyLookinHat> theadmin, yeah networkmanager doesn't exist - I'll search for the nm package though thanks
[15:24] <theadmin> Poindexter_: That's offtopic here, this is a Ubuntu support channel (even plain discussion of Ubuntu and the policies is offtopic here, support only)
[15:25] <theadmin> !find nm-applet | FunnyLookinHat
[15:25] <alankila> beefcafe: and all its dependencies? try to ldd that library file, maybe some dependencies it needs are missing
[15:25] <theadmin> ...duh
[15:25] <Pouncer> does anyone know how to use a westell modem/router as a wifi routerand how to set it up in 12.04
[15:25] <L3top> beefcafe try downloading the source package and compiling it.
[15:25] <auronandace> Poindexter_: linux is the kernel
[15:25] <theadmin> !find /usr/bin/nm-applet | FunnyLookinHat (there, this will be it)
[15:25] <ikonia> L3top: why ?
[15:25] <ikonia> L3top: why does he need to compile it ?
[15:25] <FunnyLookinHat> theadmin, hah awesome thnaks
[15:26] <LjL> beefcafe: have you installed it from the repos?
[15:26] <L3top> I am not sure that he does ikonia. We have a specific driver for which the .so is not available and that was how I solved it.
[15:26] <sudipta> conky does not start in ubuntu 12.04. DMESG shows: [   74.428395] conky[2042]: segfault at 0 ip b70fab84 sp bfe9a7a8 error 4 in libc-2.15.so[b6fb5000+19f000]...any idea?
[15:26] <ikonia> L3top: so he's not linked against a correct file and you're suggesting he randomly compiles it ?
[15:26] <ikonia> come on, you can do better than that
[15:26] <beefcafe> LjL: repos?
[15:26] <LjL> !software > beefcafe
[15:27] <LjL> beefcafe: the repositories. using Software Center or apt-get
[15:27] <ejcweb> I'm on 10.10 and want to upgrade to 12.04. I'm told the best thing to do is a clean install. Aside from backing up my home directory, is there any particular things I'd be wise to backup or export?
[15:27] <LjL> beefcafe: that's how you normally install software in Ubuntu. monotone is available in the repos.
[15:27] <L3top> ikonia: if it is a bad suggestion I am certainly willing to believe it. It was just what I did that worked, and didn't seem particularly hacky. What do you suggest?
[15:27] <beefcafe> LjL: yes, I did
[15:27] <ikonia> L3top: looking at what it's trying to link against, and validating
[15:27] <sudipta> conky does not start in ubuntu 12.04. DMESG shows: [   74.428395] conky[2042]: segfault at 0 ip b70fab84 sp bfe9a7a8 error 4 in libc-2.15.so[b6fb5000+19f000]...any idea?
[15:27] <kapz> is gparted broken in Ubuntu 12.04? Gparted plus Installer was unable to partition my 750 GB HDD properly, it was pain in the ass to get a working ubuntu..
[15:27] <neattoast> !patience > sudipta
[15:27] <LjL> beefcafe: let me try installing it myself. things in the repos shouldn't exhibit behaviors like that. if they do, it's a bug and we can go and file it
[15:28] <ikonia> thanks L3top
[15:28] <beefcafe> LjL: ok:)
[15:28] <LjL> beefcafe: are you on 12.04?
[15:28] <ikonia> oops
[15:28] <nishtta2> wow.. jockey failed to install the drivers for my AMD video card!!!!
[15:28] <ikonia> thanks LjL
[15:28] <L3top> Validating beyond his saying it is installed? Forgive my ignorance... What specifically do you mean by validating?
[15:29] <L3top> I see...
[15:29] <LjL> beefcafe: seems to work for me. at least "mtn" gives a help screen. is "mtn" what you're trying?
[15:29] <beefcafe> LjL: I hate no idea...
[15:29] <kapz> on another note I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on both of my lenovo 64 bit laptops, but Fn+F6(toggle touchpad) keys works on one but not on the other, how can I enable it?
i,m being patient 4 the last couple of days :)
[15:29] <ikonia> L3top: checking if the file is there and the permissions on it, and if it's s symlink with a target (valid) or a file etc.
[15:29] <ikonia> L3top: if somethings linked against it and the file is there you'll not get a "file not found" message
[15:29] <pracas> hi
[15:29] <L3top> Ty for the correction ikonia
[15:29] <beefcafe> LjL: I'm running 11.10
[15:29] <neattoast> sudipta: Ouch. Maybe you could look into a conky channel or the sort?
[15:29] <prc384> is there a way to set up a script to open ssh session before executing?  SO i can run all the scripts from my computer and not have to use them on the server they are on
is there any conky channel
[15:30] <sudipta> ?
[15:30] <neattoast> prc384: I thinjk you might be able to use bashrc
[15:30] <cereal__> software center issue: 2012-04-30 11:29:31,909 - softwarecenter.backend.login_sso - ERROR - _on_credentails_error for Ubuntu Software Center: dbus.Dictionary({dbus.String(u'errtype'): dbus.String(u'AssertionError'), dbus.String(u'message'): dbus.String(u'Assertion failed.')}, signature=dbus.Signature('ss')) ()
[15:30] <neattoast> sudipta: I'm not sure. You could go looking. Ubuntu isn't the only channel for support. check out the official ubuntu irc lists.
[15:31] <melvincv> Hi guys. What is the easiest way to build a custom Ubuntu CD that I can install from?
[15:31] <L3top> melvincv: check out remastersys
[15:31] <LjL> beefcafe: what does "ls -l /usr/lib/libbotan*" return?
[15:31] <beefcafe> no such file
[15:31] <auronandace> !remaster | melvincv
[15:32] <beefcafe> LjL: no such file
[15:32] <LjL> beefcafe: did you include the * ?
[15:32] <tomasm-> can anyone explain how to get my gnome classic dictionary applet available on the panel? it's not an option in the 'add to panel' menu, despite the package being installed.... some online threads indicate this is a bug in debian, but I couldnt find a solution
[15:32] <beefcafe> LjL: it has /usr/lib/libbotan-1.8.13.so
[15:32] <neattoast> tomasm-: could be gnome-panel-applets
[15:33] <LjL> beefcafe: the full line please
[15:33] <neattoast> or something of the like
[15:33] <beefcafe> LjL: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2790820 2011-07-28 04:03 /usr/lib/libbotan-1.8.13.so
[15:34] <neattoast> tomasm-: You have to install gnome panel applets. Not sure what the package is called in percise.
[15:34] <cereal__> How can i reset my software center credentials?
[15:34] <noxxx> Hello. I have 12.04 installed. I wonder how i could now that Skype has a new message in opened dialog window? Some color or flashing notification?
[15:34] <LjL> beefcafe: sounds like we need to file a bug. but just to confirm something, what's the output of "apt-cache policy monotone | grep tall"?
[15:34] <neattoast> noxxx: I think that is built into skype. Check the settings
[15:35] <L3top> for the record ikonia, that is why I hang out here in my spare time... I like helping folks, sure, but to learn better problem solving methods... so that is an honest thank you for the correction.
[15:35] <beefcafe> LjL: Installed: 1.0-2
[15:35] <melvincv> Do these links help remaster an Ubuntu CD? https://build.opensuse.org/ and http://build.reconstructor.org
[15:35] <neattoast> !remaster | melvincv
[15:36] <melvincv> If not, what do they do?
[15:36] <kapz> how do I enable Fn+F6(toggle touchpad) key on my lenovo laptop, am using ubuntu 12.04
[15:36] <neattoast> melvincv: Builds opensuse and reconstructor it hink
[15:36] <noxxx> neattoast, no there's no such option
[15:36] <neattoast> kapz: Did you check the keyboard settings?
[15:36] <kel_> crap
[15:36] <theadmin> melvincv: The first link leads to OBS, the opensuse package build servers (nothing to do with Ubuntu), the second leads to a Ubuntu remastering service that... well, it's not free anymore so
[15:36] <noxxx> unity's launch buttons do notify about something?
[15:37] <tomasm-> neattoast, I already have 'gnome-applets' installed
[15:37] <neattoast> noxxx: It's under "chat"
[15:37] <kapz> neattoast, can I do that with Fn keys?
[15:37] <neattoast> tomasm-: Then there must be some indivindual package you have to install :/
[15:37] <LjL> beefcafe: if you want to file a bug about this, do "ubuntu-bug monotone" and then follow the instructions. say something like "Monotone requires libbotan-1.8.2.so, but the libbotan 1.8.2 package only provides a libbotan-1.8.13 file"
[15:37] <neattoast> kapz: Yes.
[15:38] <tdelam> Hmm, how large of a USB key do I need if I want to put Ubuntu onto it to install it?
[15:38] <noxxx> neattoast, when i have opened chat it doent notify me. on windows i have taskbar window flashing. unity does nothing.
[15:38] <neattoast> tdelam: 4 gigs
[15:38] <iceroot> tdelam: to install from the usb stick? or onto the usb stick?
[15:38] <beefcafe> LjL: ok
[15:38] <neattoast> noxxxx: could be an unity bug
[15:38] <tdelam> iceroot: from usb :)
[15:38] <tdelam> neattoast: ok, thanks.
[15:38] <iceroot> tdelam: the size of the iso (700mb)
[15:39] <tdelam> oh
[15:39] <tdelam> so a 1GB stick should do?
[15:39] <tdelam> I amlooking to download 12.04LTS
[15:39] <iceroot> tdelam: or use the minimal iso which needs 50mb
[15:39] <neattoast> iceroot: tdelam: but doesn't it get extracted?
[15:39] <iceroot> tdelam: yes 1gb is ok
[15:39] <iceroot> neattoast: no
[15:39] <tdelam> neattoast: onto the hard drive sure.
[15:39] <tdelam> I would suspect anyway
[15:39] <neattoast> iceroot: oh. duh :)
[15:39] <tdelam> I have been using linux for a long time but i've got taken away to OS X for a while
[15:40] <martian> How does one install a new theme in Ubuntu now?
[15:40] <tdelam> got a new computer so I want to use linux, USb seems the new way to install :)
[15:40] <tdelam> iceroot: ok thanks :)
[15:40] <kapz> neattoast, how? I does not register Fn key nor F6 key...
[15:40] <kapz> *It
[15:42] <joker_> Hi everyone... I am having a few issues with my new install of 12.4. When I 1st installed and booted it gave me a graphic's error now all it will boot too is the desktop no icons if I right click it will give me the desktop menu but other than that nothing
[15:43] <glosoli> hmm anyone has an Idea if POWERTOP in Tunable colum should say BAD for every device ?
[15:43] <NFisher> Hi there! is there a possibility to have truly separated workspaces in ubuntu lucid using compiz?! I wanted to have several workspace on which i could put desktop-symbols for each one individually..?
[15:43] <kapz> glosoli, no not for ALL, but for some it's best to leave at bad state
[15:43] <sleepycat> Working through the tutorial here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization  I have the contents of the squashfs in one folder and the contents of the ISO in a second folder. When I want to install new packages, do I install them in the squashfs I am going to make with squashfs or put the actual debs in the pool folder in the ISO folder?
[15:44] <NFisher> i.e. when i have a symbol on my workspace 1 i want it not to appear on workspaces 2-4..
[15:44] <glosoli> kapz: hmm wait I will make a screen and you could recommend what to change ?
[15:44] <trek201> So i have two monitors hooked up to my ubuntu. i can drag the mouse pointer from one monitor to another. but when i try to drag a window, it won't go. what's up?
[15:44] <glosoli> kapz: http://imgur.com/j5bnN  if you can ?
[15:45] <LovecraftWesting> hello :)
[15:45] <LovecraftWesting> Every time I restart or wake my computer (2008 MacBook, latest Ubuntu), the sound isn't on. I had to open Alsa Mixer and manually but the fader up... however, since I updated, Alsa is just coming up with a blank window and I have no sound :( help!
[15:45] <kapz> glosli follow this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67965/laptop-minimal-power-consumption-tweaks , mind you it's meant for ubuntu 11.xx ...
[15:46] <carrotglace> hello
[15:46] <abbasba> hello
[15:47] <LovecraftWesting> hello
[15:47] <carrotglace> i have a problem booting ubuntu11.10
[15:47] <carrotglace> can anyone help me?
[15:47] <sleepycat> carrotglace: specifically....?
[15:47] <LovecraftWesting> Every time I restart or wake my computer (2008 MacBook, latest Ubuntu), the sound isn't on. I had to open Alsa Mixer and manually but the fader up... however, since I updated, Alsa is just coming up with a blank window and I have no sound :( help please! :)
[15:48] <joker_> Hi everyone... I am having a few issues with my new install of 12.4. When I 1st installed and booted it gave me a graphic's error now all it will boot too is the desktop no icons if I right click it will give me the desktop menu but other than that nothing
[15:48] <carrotglace> sleepycat: booting, screen says can't locate "/var/lib/noip2/noip2.conf"
[15:49] <someone_i_used_t> hello ... can someone help me with my issue ... using ati hd 5870 video card ... i installed ubuntu 10.04 using alternate cd ... install finished wihtout errors ... i get black screen at boot , then no signal message displayed on monitor .. i can log in on system blindly by hitting enter and typeing my password while the no signal message it`s displayed
[15:49] <carrotglace> "[fail]" it says
[15:49] <someone_i_used_t> i tried nomodeset, modeset=0 , i915.modeset=0 xforcevesa - none worked
[15:49] <LovecraftWesting> can anyone help with my sound problem? :(
[15:50] <L3top> someone_i_used_t: do you have another monitor avail? It sounds like your monitor does not support the selected resolution.
[15:50] <someone_i_used_t> i`m using hdmi output on an 32" lcd
[15:50] <Snicers-Working> Hey, if I want to view the configuration of the SMTP relay on ubuntu, what would I look at?
[15:50] <someone_i_used_t> no other monitor available
[15:50] <L3top> !patience | LovecraftWesting
[15:51] <L3top> someone_i_used_t: can you either see terminal, or ssh into this machine?
[15:51] <carrotglace> can i take noip2 from booting? ubuntu11.10
[15:51] <someone_i_used_t> nope :(
[15:51] <L3top> Have you tried sshing into the machine?
[15:51] <sleepycat> carrotglace: not sure but this thread looks promising: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1072942
[15:51] <someone_i_used_t> cant even boot on live cd .. same thing .. black screen .. no signal message ... that`s why i used alternate cd .. in order to be able to install it at least
[15:52] <L3top> How did you originally install?
[15:52] <carrotglace> sleepycat: thanks, i'll look there
[15:52] <someone_i_used_t> using alternate cd
[15:53] <L3top> I see... someone_i_used_t, can you boot the alternate CD and try to chroot into the install?
[15:53] <someone_i_used_t> dunno how to chroot
[15:53] <f0x> doesnt ubuntu 12.04 fallback works with compiz
[15:53] <f0x> ?
[15:54] <L3top> Lets boot the cd and I will walk you through it. I have actually never used the alternate CD... so let me look at a couple of things real quick.
[15:54] <someone_i_used_t> oki
[15:54] <Asad2005> i want to upgrade to 12.04 and have downloaded alternate cd, do i have to update the existing system before i upgrade ? i don't won't to waste my data threshold and would like to upgrade with no internet
[15:55] <as456fgt> nick /dury
[15:56] <dury> hi there channel :)
[15:57] <Darael> What's the state of OpenOffice these days?  I know Ubuntu moved to LibreOffice because Oracle ceased development - what's likely to happen now it's an Apache project?
[15:57] <L3top> Can you get to a terminal in the alternate cd? I would assume so but don't actually know.
[15:58] <Boreeas> Is Precise missing a Hibernate option?
[15:58] <someone_i_used_t> no i cant L3top
[15:59] <L3top> Darael: it is my understanding that it is no longer FOSS, so development under the gnu license has stopped...
[15:59] <L3top> quite a pickle someone_i_used_t.
[15:59] <Darael> Boreeas: Yes.  There was an article on re-enabling it, but I seem to have lost the link.
[15:59] <Darael> L3top: The Wiki page suggests 3.4 onwards are under the Apache licence 2.0.
[15:59] <melvincv> Doesn't the sleep function do the hibernate function on new computers? It's called Hybrid sleep or something. I was surprised when my computer turned off after clicking Sleep...
[16:00] <someone_i_used_t> i think i`ll quit on ubuntu and head to some other distro .. since i cant use it on my machine
[16:00] <someone_i_used_t> thanks for ur time L3top
[16:00] <kel_> whos an admin in here?
[16:00] <LjL> melvincv: how do you know it turned off, and didn't keep giving power to the RAM?
[16:00] <Boreeas> Well, I've got Suspend and shutdown, and suspend does not completely stop the computer
[16:00] <LjL> kel_: the people in #ubuntu-ops, if you mean channel operators
[16:00] <L3top> someone_i_used_t: and presumably you have a dhcp assigned address... so sshing would be a little bit of guess work. I don't know a more clever way to do it than starting at your address and pinging up until you hit it.
[16:01] <someone_i_used_t> i dont have an wired connection
[16:01] <someone_i_used_t> i have only wireless
[16:01] <wolter> My wireless connection is terribly unstable after upgrading to Ubuntu 12.04, can somebody help me?
[16:01] <bubuz> hi guys - anyone know how I can move these VM partitions around so that sda1 gets the unallocated space? At the moment I can't drag past sda2/sda5 : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17620446/gparted.JPG ??
[16:01] <someone_i_used_t> thru adsl modem
[16:01] <someone_i_used_t> so ssh-in would be kinda painly
[16:01] <L3top> someone_i_used_t: Same still applies
[16:01] <wolter> Here is all the information I know about the problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/128024/wireless-connection-is-lost-periodically-and-without-apparent-reason-and-quickly
[16:01] <kel_> wolter is it disconnecting reconnecting?
[16:01] <L3top> assuming it was connected
[16:01] <wolter> kel_, yes
[16:01] <mn_> Darael usr13 L3top I got it fixed. Thanks guys!! :D
[16:01] <melvincv> all lights off, PSU fan off too, well, mostly turned off then. Except for the num lock led on the keyboard :)
[16:02] <Darael> mn_: Glad to hear it.  That'll show kx.
[16:02] <L3top> :) mn_
[16:02] <kel_> i use 11.04 i had a major issue with that ill message you
[16:02] <someone_i_used_t> install didnt detected my usb wifi
[16:02] <someone_i_used_t> only wired network cards
[16:03] <khaot1x> is there any way to move firefox and chrome saved passwords from one pc to another (ubuntu 12.04 both) ?
[16:03] <kx> you think he's going to admit failure? ha
[16:03] <L3top> Well, if you can get to a terminal, or another monitor, I can fix this.
[16:03] <bubuz> anyone help with the above????
[16:03] <Boreeas> Anyways, thanks, I found something on hibernate: http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation-in-12-04
[16:03] <L3top> yes kx, rather than drop off the planet, he came back to lie... just to show you up. Obvious.
[16:04] <PanKozlevich> wine tells me I have no opengl drivers, what the hell?
[16:04] <Pici> bubuz: Just delete the swap space and re-create it at the end of the drive.
[16:04] <kx> notice he didnt say how he got it fixed. ie, by clean install no doubt
[16:05] <craigbass1976> jrib, thanks again; everything is logging appropriately.
[16:05] <Darael> Notice how the obvious troll grasps at straws in an attempt to maintain his (or possibly her) delusional little reality.
[16:05] <L3top> reality exists, regardless of your perception kx. People who cannot admit being wrong often warp reality to fit their perception. Shoo troll.
[16:05] <coredumped> hi
[16:06] <Pici> Lets try to keep the commentary to a minumum.
[16:06] <L3top> agreed. Sorry.
[16:06] <Darael> coredumped: Greetings.  This is the support channel - if thou hast hast a question, please do ask, but for chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:07] <coredumped> I've installed 12.04 at the place of an 11.10 I've the home in a separated partition.. now the menu is empty even if I type terminal it doens't show nothing...
[16:07] <coredumped> any hint?
[16:07] <splnet> Using an editor (gvim) I notice that the screen does not update when I scroll through the file. Any ideas what causes this? Is this a compiz problem or a driver issue?
[16:07] <L3top> by menu you mean the grub menu coredumped?
[16:08] <coredumped> L3top, nope..the unity menu, the dash?
[16:08] <coredumped> L3top, I'm not used about the new terms :(
[16:08] <coredumped> from where it's populated?
[16:08] <joseph_> Anybody want an nvidia 256 mb video card? I gave up on trying to install the drivers. I couldn't get help and couldn't boot into x. so I ripped it out and went back to intergrated.
[16:09] <robgraves> shenanigans
[16:09] <PanKozlevich> how to enable opengl in wine?
[16:10] <melvincv> How to get rid of the new scrollbar? The bottom scrollbar comes in the way of typing commands in 'Gnome connection manager' http://kuthulu.com/gcm
[16:10] <kel_> joseph that card should have worked
[16:10] <L3top> No worries, just trying to be clear coredumped. I am not sure what the issue is... what is the gpu? lspci -nn | grep VGA     if you can see a terminal...
[16:11] <kx> kel_: no, the latest nvidia driver has a known stability and blanking problems on older cards and as usual, it's marked stable in ubuntu
[16:11] <NFisher> Hi there! is there a possibility to have truly separated workspaces in ubuntu lucid using compiz?! I wanted to have several workspace on which i could put desktop-symbols for each one individually..?
[16:11] <NFisher> i.e. when i have a symbol on my workspace 1 i want it not to appear on workspaces 2-4..
[16:11] <L3top> kx, I see your advice did not pan out very well for joseph_. Will you now make the same recommendation for kel_, while lambasting ubuntu?
[16:12] <caser> hi!
[16:12] <PanKozlevich> how to enable opengl in wine?
[16:12] <khaot1x> is there any way to move firefox and chrome saved passwords from one pc to another (ubuntu 12.04 both) ?
[16:12] <Asad2005> i want to upgrade to 12.04 and have downloaded alternate cd, do i have to update the existing system before i upgrade ? i don't won't to waste my data threshold and would like to upgrade with no internet
[16:12] <L3top> I don't know NFisher, but would be interested in hearing a solution.
[16:13] <kel_> kx my apologies...
[16:13] <kx> L3top: as you should have known, the last we saw joseph_ he couldnt get into a chroot properly. i dont see any indication he downgraded the driver
[16:13] <joseph_> l3top, do you want to buy my nvidia card? nothing is wrong with it, it's just the user not knowing what he is doing.
[16:13] <splnet> khaot1x: just copy ~/.mozilla  to new pc for FF. Similar for chrome
[16:14] <coredumped> L3top, ati radeon
[16:14] <kel_> anyone here use vi as an editor?
[16:14] <coredumped> L3top, I don't think is a video card issue
[16:14] <splnet> kel_: yes
[16:14] <melvincv> khaot1x: why not try the 'firefox sync' and  'chrome sync' options?
[16:14] <joseph_> I had to boot to recovery and selected "older linux version" to get it to boot. then I disabled it. Now it's running on the intergrated video card. I took that nvidia out.
[16:14] <Darael> kel_: The Editor of the Beast?  Almost certainly.
[16:15] <coredumped> L3top, I installed ubuntu without choosing the /home partition, after I mounted my old home in the right place but I got this issue
[16:15] <kel_> really worth the time and effort to get down?  heard if you get it down editing is very fast this true?
[16:15] <L3top> joseph_: did you install the older nvidia driver?
[16:15] <splnet> kel_: yes it is well worth it
[16:16] <ejcweb> When upgrading Ubuntu (doing a fresh install), should I back up any of the packages I've installed, or is the best practice just to reinstall them with synaptic on the new system?
[16:16] <khaot1x> thanks splnet . melvincv sync copies saved passwords?
[16:16] <joseph_> I don't know what it's running on now, all I know is that it's working fine and I'm not trying anything else, for it's not my computer.
[16:16] <coredumped> maybe the lens application?
[16:16] <kel_> thanks
[16:16] <coredumped> what's that for?
[16:16] <L3top> I meant when you had the nvidia in joseph_. I am not suggesting you "fix" a working system.
[16:16] <Darael> kel_: Careful.  It's easy to raise the ghosts of the Editor Wars.  vi is fast, but horrible for anyone not using a QWERTY keyboard.  Steep learning curve, but well worth it /if/ it fits thee.
[16:17] <B|tchX> ejcweb, its best to install new packages to match the kernel
[16:17] <B|tchX> ejcweb, its going to ask you to upgrade your packages anyway
[16:17] <beefcafe> mtn: misuse: workspace required but not found <---why?
[16:17] <L3top> I saw this <joseph_> it worked fine until I installed that nvidia driver!     and was just curious.
[16:17] <kel_> yea I program so ive been giving it a shot just sort of hard to remember the commands and get the flow right
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> ejcweb  i made a list of installed packages and after fresh install, i do sudo apt-get install [that list]
[16:18] <ejcweb> MonkeyDust: That sounds good, how do I do that? (at least in case something doesn't work, I can look at what packages I had installed before)
[16:18] <B|tchX> beefcafe,  what were you doing to get that error?
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> ejcweb  i do it manually, creating that list
[16:19] <beefcafe> B|tchX: trying to do an mtn add --unknown
[16:19] <melvincv> khaot1x: yes, it does! I do it all the time. But be careful about security.
[16:20] <ejcweb> Is there a way to automatically create a list of all installed packages?
[16:20] <joseph_> I just resorted back to the old built in card on this pc. I wanted to upgrade it to open GL to go with the extra ram that I installed. but ah well.
[16:20] <splnet> ejcweb: dpkg -l
[16:20] <Strav`> Hi! I'm having some issue with my wifi connection on ubuntu 12.04 (I might have had this problem on 11.10 as well): at what appears to be random times, the wlan interface just vanishes leaving me with no connection. If I then go and try: ifconfig -a, the wlan interface does not even appear (so it's not down). I tried restarting most of the network related init scripts, cannot bring it back. My wifi card is actually an intel 5100 AGN and
[16:20] <Strav`> I believe I'm using the iwlwifi driver for it. I've been to launch pad, seen some similar bugs but no concrete solution. Any thoughts on what I could try to fix this?
[16:20] <kx> L3top: the driver he installed was the broken ubuntu one. nice wishful thinking
[16:20] <khaot1x> melvincv ok i didnt know that. where i can found the sync? i must have a chrome account?
[16:20] <nishtta2> tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33llgfs&s=6 can someone please take a look and tell me whats wrong my display settings..!
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> ejcweb  there's aptoncd
[16:21] <beefcafe> B|tchX: got it. thanks for the attention:)
[16:21] <shadowspell> Hey i cant play some listen live radios, what i should check first ?
[16:21] <carrotglace> i'm on live session: can i take "noip2" from boot?
[16:21] <captine> hi all.  struggling with my wifi drivers.  anyone able to help identify why my wifi drops from time to time and wont reconnect?  Doesnt do it on other machines, so assume it is not my router
[16:22] <melvincv> khaot1x: spanner icon > Options > Personal stuff > sign in to chrome
[16:22] <B|tchX> ok beefcafe
[16:22] <captine> just wanting to know what logs to check etc?  if that will even  help
[16:22] <Strav`> captine: I'm having a very similar problem.
[16:22] <coredumped> L3top, resolved this way : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/+bug/964146
[16:22] <khaot1x> hmm melvincv if this requires login in to an online service this will not secure. I will c/p the folder
[16:22] <khaot1x> :P
[16:23] <Strav`> captine: when your wifi drops, do you see your wifi interface listed if you type ifconfig -a in a terminal?
[16:23] <captine> Strav`, what have you been doing to troubleshoot?
[16:23] <captine> i havent checked
[16:23] <carrotglace> hi again: i'm on live session: can i take "noip2" from boot?
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> !patience| carrotglace
[16:23] <Snicers-Working> is stat=User Unknown bad in sendmail DSN?
[16:23] <captine> just find resetting my router has been working, or turning off wifi in ubuntu and turning back on
[16:24] <melvincv> khaot1x: ok, good to do new stuff yourself. Ubuntu gets you computer literacy 101 :)
[16:24] <ejcweb> Are things like my ssh keys stored in my home directory?
[16:24] <captine> Strav`, what wifi driver u using?  I am on broadcom.  it just updated, but that hasnt helped
[16:24] <khaot1x> melvincv,  :)
[16:24] <Snicers-Working> ejcweb: yeah, under hidden folder called .sssh
[16:24] <Snicers-Working> *.ssh
[16:24] <melvincv> ejcweb: yes, in .ssh
[16:25] <Snicers-Working> do an ls -la to see hidden folders
[16:25] <ejcweb> thanks
[16:25] <splnet> ejcweb: ls -a ~/ | grep ^.
[16:25] <Strav`> captine: I think I saw your specific issue mentionned on launchpad or askubuntu.com. I'm using the iwlwifi drivers (the card is an intel 5100 AGN)
[16:26] <melvincv> splnet: that command shows the ssh keys?
[16:26] <ejcweb> I want to fresh install 12.04. How is best to do this? Overwrite my current Ubuntu partition?
[16:27] <Snicers-Working> ejcweb: Just follow this. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades
[16:27] <captine> Strav`, thanks, looking now
[16:27] <auronandace> ejcweb: sure, when you choose the partition to install to make sure you format it
[16:27] <loin> hello, does the ubuntu install automatically set up uefi?
[16:27] <storyteller> is there any way to limit server load permenantly ?
[16:27] <beefcafe> mtn misuse commit failed. instructions not found ??
[16:27] <splnet> melvincv: ssh keys are in ~/.ssh
[16:28] <Strav`> captine: perhaps this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127094/dropped-wireless-connections-and-reconnections-with-a-broadcom-bcm4321  ?
[16:28] <PanKozlevich> how to enable opengl in wine?
[16:28] <Hokar> hi. i want to upgrade lubuntu to 12.04 but there is not enough space on / is there a way to download the upgrade to a sdcard to upgrade?
[16:28] <Pici> PanKozlevich: Have you tried asking in #winehq ?
[16:28] <melvincv> I removed the dot files from my home directory before installing Ubuntu 12.04. This is when I realised that my ssh keys are missing :D
[16:28] <carrotglace> can't boot ubuntu11.10 because "noip2", how can i change boot list and take "noip2" out?
[16:28] <ejcweb> Snicers-Working: I'm on ubuntu 10.10 and so I'm not sure I can upgrade using the methods in that guide.
[16:28] <pythoneles> can anyone please help me out getting my ecryptfs home back from a previous ubuntu install?
[16:29] <Vessel> Im tryng to instal from USB, all i can get is the dammed purple screen and an error acording initd failures. I've tryed adding nouveau.blacklist=1 and also nomodeset arguments  in the command line ( hitting Tab for edditing) Anyone has any other tips...?
[16:29] <ejcweb> Snicers-Working: My understanding is that I've got to download the installation cd, and then fresh install.
[16:29] <PanKozlevich> Pici: it's ubuntu problem
[16:29] <auronandace> ejcweb: fresh install is better
[16:29] <Vessel> This is my last try, after this, i'll stay in win7 after a week of failures.
[16:29] <bcuraboy> hi guys.i was wondering.how can i see my android interface on my pc desktop using a hdmi cable?
[16:29] <melvincv> Why is the boot menu hidden in the new live cd's of ubuntu?
[16:29] <auronandace> ejcweb: but you can upgrade from an eol release if you want to
[16:30] <auronandace> !eol | ejcweb
[16:30] <beefcafe> mtn misuse commit failed. instructions not found ??
[16:30] <auronandace> ejcweb: but from 10.10 you'll have to go through all of them to get to 12.04, might as well fresh install
[16:30] <ejcweb> auronandace: I'm planning a fresh install. Should I wipe over, or install to a new partion, or what? I'd like to know what is generally recommended.
[16:31] <minimec> captine: Some tips concerning wireless: 1. Once I had a device that was not even seeing my network, but others. Solution: By setting the channel bandwith to 20/40 Mhz on the router, the device worked like charm. 2. Once I had a device, that dropped connection like yours. Solution: In that case, disableling network 'n' on the device made the device work flawlessly.
[16:31] <carrotglace> can't boot ubuntu11.10 because "noip2", how can i change boot list and take "noip2" out?
[16:31] <Vessel> Im tryng to instal from USB, all i can get is the dammed purple screen and an error acording initd failures. I've tryed adding nouveau.blacklist=1 and also nomodeset arguments  in the command line ( hitting Tab for edditing) Anyone has any other tips...? Using nVidia 980 gpu.
[16:31] <dayer4b> ugh... i'm having tons of problems with Remmina in 12.04 !
[16:31] <auronandace> ejcweb: overwriting the partition (by choosing to format it) will have the same effect as installing to a new partition
[16:32] <ejcweb> auronandace: Can I choose to format it from the installation disk?
[16:32] <beefcafe> B|tchX: mtn misuse commit failed. instructions not found ??
[16:33] <auronandace> ejcweb: yes, the installer has a tickbox
[16:34] <auronandace> ejcweb: i've always used custom partitioning (i've never let the installer do it for me)
[16:34] <B|tchX> beefcafe, what are you doing with mtn, installing? configuring?
[16:34] <beefcafe> B|tchX: configuring using "mtn ci"
[16:34] <ThePendulum> When I close the screen of my laptop, it goes to sleep mode. When it wakes up, the resolution is completely messed up. Any ideas?
[16:36] <B|tchX> beefcafe, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2012-03/msg00000.html
[16:36] <savid> What's the best filesystem for cross-platform compatibility?  Are we still stuck with FAT32 for a reliable cross-platform fs?
[16:36] <Vessel> Im tryng to instal from USB, all i can get is the dammed purple screen and an error acording initd failures. I've tryed adding nouveau.blacklist=1 and also nomodeset arguments  in the command line ( hitting Tab for edditing) Anyone has any other tips...? Using nVidia 980 gpu.
[16:36] <auronandace> savid: depends how cross-platform you want to get
[16:36] <savid> auronandace, basically linux/windows/mac
[16:37] <auronandace> savid: they all do ntfs fine
[16:37] <PanKozlevich> ubuntu is only linux i have idiotic problems with
[16:37] <B|tchX> savid, i learned that ext4 can't be accessed from the windows partion on a dual boot.  ntfs only allows you to hold so much on the disk wasting valuable disk space fat32 is always cherry
[16:37] <PanKozlevich> why that junk cannot simply work?
[16:37] <auronandace> savid: actually i'm not sure about mac
[16:37] <grnt> PanKozlevich: what about arch?
[16:38] <PanKozlevich> 64bit, other 64bit work
[16:38] <auronandace> PanKozlevich: what problem are you having?
[16:38] <savid> auronandace, I have a 1TB external USB drive that was formated in NTFS.  When copying about 32 GB of files over, I started getting write errors, and was subsequently no longer able to mount the disk in linux.  I was able to boot into windows and fix the filesystem, though.
[16:39] <savid> So, that led me to believe NTFS drivers aren't terribly reliable yet.
[16:39] <auronandace> savid: when was that?
[16:39] <PanKozlevich> wine tells me i have no opengl driver or such crap
[16:39] <beefcafe> B|tchX: I already have monotone installed and working. just the "mtn ci" command doesn't work
[16:39] <savid> auronandace, yesterday :)
[16:39] <RyuGuns> PanKozlevich: Wine is not part of 'Buntu.
[16:39] <grnt> PanKozlevich: you have libc6-i386 installed, don't you?
[16:39] <sary> What a lag!
[16:39] <auronandace> savid: wow, i've used ntfs for years on linux no problem
[16:40] <savid> hmm.  maybe it was a fluke.
[16:40] <PanKozlevich> RyuGuns: don't be silly
[16:40] <pythoneles> can anyone please help me out getting my ecryptfs home back from a previous ubuntu install?
[16:40] <RyuGuns> Don't blame Ubuntu for Wine's problems, PanKozlevich.
[16:40] <B|tchX> savid, do you need to be root?
[16:40] <sary> win 17
[16:40] <RyuGuns> You will only hurt yourself.
[16:40] <savid> B|tchX, no, I was able to write w/o being root.
[16:41] <PanKozlevich> grnt: yes I have
[16:41] <grnt> PanKozlevich: I assume ia32-lins are installed too. Did you already try to reinstall your binary driver?
[16:41] <PanKozlevich> grnt: my what?
[16:42] <grnt> PanKozlevich: I had same (probably) problem. I needed to reinstall AMD video driver after installing ia32-libs
[16:42] <PanKozlevich> I use gallium driver
[16:42] <grnt> PanKozlevich: your binary driver = NVIDIA or AMD proprietary driver from their websites
[16:43] <B|tchX> savid, look in dmesg or /var/log/kern.log
[16:43] <auronandace> grnt: better to stick to the drivers in the repos
[16:44] <grnt> PanKozlevich: Gallium is old, broken and unmaintained. You won't have any luck with it
[16:44] <PanKozlevich> it work elsewhere
[16:45] <PanKozlevich> it is the latest driver ubuntu offers, btw
[16:45] <grnt> auronandace: maybe. But I always installed mine via AMD download and never experienced problems
[16:45] <savid> B|tchX, it was yesterday, so will be difficult to find (can't remember what time it was).  Anything I should grep for?
[16:45] <B|tchX> mtn savid
[16:46] <savid> B|tchX, nope, no matches for "mtn"
[16:46] <grnt> PanKozlevich: I'm not sure if it is so. Ubuntu should offer fglrx or nvidia driver (whatever it's called)
[16:46] <B|tchX> I don't want to frustrate you savid, so, I'm out
[16:46] <savid> B|tchX,  no prob.  I think I'm just going to reformat as FAT32.
[16:47] <B|tchX> savid, try typing 'mti commit'
[16:47] <B|tchX> mtn rather savid
[16:47] <PanKozlevich> I know crappy opensource driver was working
[16:48] <PanKozlevich> now it does not
[16:48] <grnt> OpenSource one won't work well with Wine. You may run some stuff but with missing textures, shaders and dead low fps
[16:49] <captine> disconnected again
[16:49] <armink> hi there. I just installed xubuntu 12.04 with disk encryption (alternate installer). the installer seemed frozen for several minutes after asking for the encryption passphrase, install went fine after that. but now I have a delay while booting: the "cryptsetup: sda5_crypt set up successful" message appears about a minute after entering the passphrase.
[16:51] <GeminiDomino> Does 12.04 server still require an "alternate install" disc in order to be able to use LVM/software raid from install?
[16:51] <Sidewinder> armink, Encryption does require way more cpu time.
[16:51] <gotmilk> hi guys
[16:51] <Sidewinder> If that's what you mean.
[16:51] <gotmilk> i have a problem
[16:52] <alankila> a minute of delay doesn't sound normal. Encryption should be a pay-as-you-go affair, and the cost is not that large with modern CPUs.
[16:52] <gotmilk> i install a conky , why my background turn to black
[16:52] <gotmilk> ?
[16:53] <NFisher> Hi there! is there a possibility to have truly separated workspaces in ubuntu lucid using compiz?! I wanted to have several workspace on which i could put desktop-symbols for each one individually..?
[16:53] <NFisher> i.e. when i have a symbol on my workspace 1 i want it not to appear on workspaces 2-4..
[16:53] <armink> Sidewinder: no, this took about a second on 11.10. also it's an i5 with aes extensions, encryption shouldn't have a noticeable performance impact there.
[16:53] <Sidewinder> armink, Agreed, just sorry I don't have the answer. :-(
[16:54] <armink> Sidewinder, no problem
[16:54] <HRH_H_Crab> hi, ive just upgraded to precise and mythtv keeps giving me random blasts of static. i had this problem before prior to the upgrade and it was swiftly fixed by changing the default pulse audio samplerate to 48k. since upgradin to precise this doesnt seem to prevent the static.
[16:54] <alesan> hi, how do I install JAVA?
[16:54] <alesan> !java
[16:54] <alankila> alesan: try if openjdk-7-jdk suits your tastes
[16:54] <alesan> alankila, should I install v6 or v7 like you suggest?
[16:54] <alesan> what is difference?
[16:55] <EvilResistance> alesan:  i recommend you read the link that Ubottu gave you
[16:55] <EvilResistance> Java 7 is not as stable as Java 6
[16:55] <mrsuchyPL> true
[16:55] <alesan> EvilResistance, so should I install Sun's?
[16:55] <EvilResistance> and sometimes you need Sun Java (now called Oracle Java), which requires an extra download
[16:55] <alankila> 6 is just ancient. Today it might not make much difference.
[16:55] <EvilResistance> alesan:  depends on what you need
[16:55] <alankila> but in the future 7 will be the requirement
[16:56] <ruman> hi could any one tell me the Dialer Server for PRI Line(software and CRM) for Ubuntu
[16:56] <alesan> EvilResistance, I just want to run Eclipse that I have downloaded from eclipse.org (not from Ubuntu)
[16:56] <alankila> alesan: I use openjdk-7-jdk with that without issues.
[16:56] <alesan> alankila, OK thanks
[16:56] <ejcweb> Am I likely to encounter any major problems with 64bit 12.04?
[16:56] <alesan> but I use it for C/C++, not for Java, do you still think I need thr full JDK?
[16:56] <ejcweb> (in terms of compatability)
[16:57] <alankila> alesan: hm maybe just the jre then.
[16:57] <alesan> I will try
[16:57] <zebe42> has anyone used virtualbox with ubuntu 12,04 as a host and used bridged networking?
[16:58] <xyy> is there a tool to capture sound from PC?
[16:58] <alankila> ejcweb: no, I think pretty much everyone is on the 64-bit boat by now... that was not the situation 2-3 years ago, but I think today it's pretty safe
[16:58] <zebe42> The guest win7 64bit can use the internet but my host can no longer connect to anything
[16:59] <alankila> xyy: pulseaudio, if you run it, can attach itself to monitor of any pulse device, and can record digitally what passes through it
[16:59] <alankila> you need to turn the monitor on somehow first, I forget the details, but something like parecord should do it after the monitor is activated
[16:59] <xyy> thankyou alankila
[17:02] <Guest79689> hey all
[17:02] <robgraves1> hello
[17:04] <Guest79689> Has anyone found an easy way of installing the new ubuntu without the dammed unity desktop?  I need it to be gnome as usual, which is ther point of ubuntu isn't it?
[17:04] <joseph__> hello I'm back, who was it helping me with the nvidia trouble?
[17:04] <Sm1th> hello
[17:04] <Guest79689> hmm, nvidia trouble? I know that feeling.
[17:06] <exFAT> hi, does ubuntu 12.04 support exfat?
[17:07] <L3top> Guest79689: Gnome is abandoned... no longer maintained... It is unity from here forward.
[17:07] <grnt> Guest79689: get alternate cd installer
[17:07] <rensvind_> How do i see what hardware i have for wifi? It stopped working in Ubuntu 12.04
[17:07] <SpaceAviator> is there a way to find out if the SSD issue was fixed? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Precise#SSDs
[17:07] <sary> L3top: hmm !
[17:07] <nannes> does ubuntu 12 have the "Check CD for defects" feature? If yes, where is it?
[17:07] <sary> !gnome-shell
[17:07] <SpaceAviator> I know it says Precise but I am pretty sure its just from the previous template
[17:08] <L3top> Not saying it can't be done sary, I am saying... at some point... people are going to have to come to grips with its death.
[17:08] <sary> I know am using Gnome 3 along with gnome-shell here on my 12.04 box .
[17:08] <grnt> Guest79689: using it you will be able to select packages during install. you can also install bare-bones system and apt-get everything else one-by-one. Just be sure to install wireless-tools and wpa_supplicant if you have wifi and choose that road
[17:09] <nannes> does ubuntu 12 have the "Check CD for defects" feature? If yes, where is it?
[17:09] <sary> L3top: Right , got you .
[17:09] <xex> Hi folks. Trying to confirm something; wondered if anyone here may know something. I used Startup Disk Creator to make a 12.04 bootable USB installer. When I booted from the USB drive, I chose to Check Disc For Defects. It failed on .../pxelinux.cfg/default . I looked for this file, and it does not exist in the USB drive. It does however exist in the ISO. The file is listed in the md5sum.txt, so of course it gets checked. Is this just an oversight that I can i
[17:09] <xex> gnore? BTW, I checked my ISO against its checksum, and also mounted the ISO and checked all included files against its md5sum.txt, and all was good. Cheers.
[17:09] <exFAT> does ubuntu 12.04 support exfat? if anyone knows, please reply. thanks!
[17:10] <halfie_> is VirtualBox broken in Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:10] <bluefrog> exfat not that i am aware of
[17:11] <halfie_> I have added my user to vboxusers group but I still can't mount any ISO image in VirtuBox?
[17:11] <radon-> Why can't I install aMSN when updated to 12.04 LTS from 11.10? I tried to install from a .deb from internet but it just says that "libgstfarsight0.10-0" is missing, and I can't install that package either
[17:11] <ThePendulum> halfie_: Running Virtualbox in 12.04 succesfully, so no...
[17:11] <halfie_> Any tips to get VirtualBox working?
[17:11] <MadRabbit0320> Trying to connect hardwire cable using live cd 12.04, but it will not connect. PCLinuxOS hooks right up after entering my netwk name & pw, but ubuntu 12.04 won't. Any help, plz?
[17:11] <ThePendulum> halfie_: Have you reinstalled it after updating?
[17:11] <ThePendulum> *upgrading
[17:11] <halfie_> ThePendulum: as normal or root user?
[17:11] <halfie_> ThePendulum: I installed Ubuntu fresh.
[17:12] <racho> exFAT, no out of box support for exfat. as much as i know there are some hacks to enable it but the whole exfat on linux sucks for now
[17:12] <bluefrog> exFAT, but little search never killed anyone... https://code.google.com/p/exfat/
[17:12] <halfie_> ThePendulum: do you remember the steps you followed to get it working?
[17:12] <aguitel> exFAT, http://apcmag.com/how-to-enable-exfat-in-ubuntu.htm
[17:12] <ThePendulum> halfie_: I just installed virtualbox using "sudo apt-get install virtualbox", and it worked out of the box...
[17:12] <Wishing_Master> can anyone sort this out, my system is not able to connect to my wireless network after i have installed the latest ubuntu version
[17:12] <exFAT> bluefrog, I know about using fuse. just wanted to know if it was supported without third party software. thanks
[17:13] <aguitel> rand_a, i compile fron sources in 12.04
[17:13] <grnt> Wishing_Master: issue iwconfig in terminal
[17:13] <Guest79689> that's wired, I've had wifi issues since installing the new version
[17:13] <Guest56476> I need to see what updates were install last?
[17:13] <Wishing_Master> grnt let me try that wait please
[17:13] <Guest79689> I've been more concerned with trying to get the dammed desktop useable though.
[17:13] <trism> radon-: farsight was renamed farstream upstream, so the deb will need some work, though based on http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=654540 might be better to find a new messaging client
[17:14] <cost> alankila, I want to remove the picture,boot splash etc from the CD....
[17:14] <Daekdroom> L3top, GNOME 3 is not dead.
[17:14] <syddraf> How would I go about setting up the ability for my computer to send emails to a gmail address? I ultimately want to use it in a script.
[17:14] <Daekdroom> It's development is going on with no issues and parts of it are still used by Ubuntu.
[17:14] <wally> anyone have luck with an IronKey in the latest release - 12.04 ?
[17:14] <neattoast> wally: I tried, and failed miserably :/
[17:15] <wally> neattoast: not what I wanted to hear...
[17:15] <Wishing_Master> grnt--- iwconfig shows no wireless extensions :(
[17:15] <L3top> I stand corrected then. ty Daekdroom
[17:15] <neattoast> wally: maybe you have a different approach than me, I wish you good luck
[17:15] <rhizmoe> on 10.10, is there a way to install the latest rhythmbox rather than sticking with the old one in the repo?
[17:15] <recon69_lap> syddraf: a mailmerge in word perhaps
[17:16] <minimec> Wishing_Master: lspci |grep Network <-- What wifi device do you have
[17:16] <wally> neattoast: I'm assuming it's the actual binary? I haven't tried updating in awhile...
[17:16] <syddraf> recon69_lap: I must not have been clear. I need to configure a mailserver that will send emails to gmail from a script.
[17:16] <wally> I should check if there's an update.
[17:16] <Wishing_Master> minimec its a onboard broadcomm wireless card
[17:16] <kel_> you want to forward emails from a web server?
[17:16] <bluebomber> Is this the appropriate channel to ask a networking question?
[17:16] <neattoast> rhizmoe:add this ppa to your sources: ppa:webupd8team/rythmbox
[17:17] <neattoast> wally: I took from source.
[17:17] <grnt> Wishing_Master: wi-fi is PCI card or USB dongle?
[17:17] <Guest56476> my windows title bar is disappears after awhile. How do I fix this problem
[17:17] <Wishing_Master> grnt pci card
[17:17] <ThePendulum> bluebomber: If it has to do with an Ubuntu networking issue or question... yes
[17:17] <recon69_lap> syddraf: probably the mapi you looking for then
[17:17] <grnt> Wishing_Master: Broadcom? sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[17:17] <facelessloser> could someone help me. ive got a macbook pro with ubuntu installed. i want to reinstall ubuntu but my dvd drive is broken
[17:17] <Wishing_Master> grnt bcm 4311
[17:18] <kel_> face use a usb drive
[17:18] <minimec> Wishing_Master: I know that some broadcom devices are a pain. I probably cannot help you here. maybe some search on the web with that 'lspci' output helps.
[17:18] <ThePendulum> facelessloser: Indeed, you could boot from a USB stick
[17:18] <halfie_> ThePendulum: I am using 3.3.3 PPA kernel. that might be causing the problem.
[17:18] <bluebomber> ThePendulum: k, probably not, then, although I *am* using Ubuntu. Do you have a suggestion for the appropriate channel, then?
[17:18] <facelessloser> ive tryed
[17:18] <Guest56476> facelessloser,  usb?
[17:18] <kel_> you need to run the installer
[17:18] <grnt> Wishing_Master: Yes, recently a guy like you with mac book had the same problem. We fixed it by installing firmware
[17:18] <facelessloser> how would i format/setup the usb
[17:18] <ThePendulum> bluebomber: What about #networking ?
[17:18] <recon69_lap> syddraf: SMTP API to be more accurate
[17:18] <Darael> syddraf: To send /to/ a gmail address?  I don't know how useful this information will be, but: most recipients (including gmail) will refuse email from a server on a dynamic IP address, but GMail servers will happily accept over IPv6, which bypasses that quite neatly.
[17:18] <kel_> go to the page where you download ubuntu
[17:18] <Wishing_Master> minimec i am trying that.
[17:18] <kel_> it will discuss installation ways
[17:19] <Wishing_Master> grnt lets see
[17:19] <kel_> and it mentions usb
[17:19] <grnt> Wishing_Master: lsmod | grep b43
[17:19] <facelessloser> ive tryied to use unetbootin to install ubuntu to the drive but my mac cant see it when booting
[17:19] <Wishing_Master> grnt shall i reboot after that?
[17:19] <grnt> Wishing_Master: he didn't need to reboot
[17:19] <Guest56476> facelessloser, format as fat
[17:19] <ejcweb> Will the Ubuntu 12.04 64bit download work when it says amd64 if I've got an Intel processor?
[17:19] <syddraf> Darael: I finally found something that works. The sendemail package works perfectly. Thanks everyone.
[17:20] <facelessloser> Guest56476, i formated as fat 32
[17:20] <Wishing_Master> grnt no go
[17:20] <ThePendulum> ejcweb: Yes it will. It says AMD64, but it has nothing to do with AMD as a hardware manufacturer really
[17:20] <racho> Wishing_Master, afaik the 3.3.x kernel series have the broadcom firmware by default. my bcm 4313 works out of the box
[17:20] <grnt> Wishing_Master: issue lsmod | grep b43 in terminal
[17:20] <ThePendulum> ejcweb: As long as you have any 64-bits CPU, it will work
[17:20] <ejcweb> ThePendulum: Great, thanks.
[17:20] <ThePendulum> ejcweb: Happy to help
[17:20] <sary> facelessloser: can't you use he dd tool to burn the iso to the usb !
[17:20] <Wishing_Master> grnt no output of that command
[17:21] <facelessloser> sary, dd tool?
[17:21] <Darael> syddraf: Oh, it was at /that/ layer.  Yeah, sendmail's effective.  The configuration can be arcane, though.  If it gets difficult, I hear Postfix is easier to handle.
[17:21] <grnt> Wishing_Master: you don't have kernel module (.ko) installed. However, try sudo modprobe b43
[17:21] <kel_> face
[17:22] <kel_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[17:22] <Guest56476> facelessloser, osx cant see the usb stick before unetbootin is installed?
[17:22] <Wishing_Master> grnt no output
[17:22] <racho> Wishing_Master, lsmod | grep brcmsmac
[17:22] <alankila> ejcweb: yeah the architectures are named kind of after whichever was the first implementation. I wish the terminology was just "32-bit" and "64-bit" or something myself, to avoid these questions
[17:22] <racho> does it return something?
[17:22] <ssta> nobody (except redhat) really usesw sendmail.  It's the reference implementation, but there are many easier/better implementations out there imo
[17:22] <Wishing_Master> racho no output
[17:22] <nishtta2> how can i get commercial support for installing 12.04 on my desktop here
[17:22] <grnt> Wishing_Master: no output? now try lsmod | grep b43 again
[17:22] <Wishing_Master> grnt got something
[17:22] <Darael> syddraf: To clarify:  Most MTAs will provide /usr/bin/sendmail, but the sendmail package is far from the easiest to handle.
[17:23] <facelessloser> Guest56476, i havnt tryed that. when it boot up and i hold down the alt key it only sees the internal hdd
[17:23] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: Commercial support for a personal installation?
[17:23] <grnt> Wishing_Master: yes, so the module *is* installed but didn't load. strange
[17:23] <Wishing_Master> grnt what do i want to check here?
[17:23] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: If you have any questions or issues, feel free to ask this channel
[17:23] <syddraf> I'll keep that in mind if any issues come up. Thanks everyone.
[17:23] <nishtta2> ThePendulum, yes.. and i have.. with no answer
[17:23] <angel279>  Hello, can someone tell me what this chars "2> log.txt" mean in a terminal command?
[17:23] <grnt> Wishing_Master: lsmod shows a list of loaded kernel modules. We just loaded a kernel module for your card (it seems)
[17:24] <Darael> angel279: redirects stderr.
[17:24] <Wishing_Master> grnt gr8
[17:24] <grnt> Wishing_Master: so, any iwconfig luck now?
[17:24] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: Could you repeat your question? As you can see, it's quite busy, and questions can be easily missed by people who know the answer. If you don't get an answer, it's best to wait for a few minutes and try again.
[17:24] <nishtta2> ThePendulum, i had a working setup of 10.10 with 4 monitors.. ever since i installed 12.04.. i have been screwed..
[17:24] <Wishing_Master> grnt let me check that
[17:24] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: What's the definition of 'screwed' in your scenario? What issues occur?
[17:25] <Darael> angel279: Terminal programs output on two streams, for the most part:  stdout and stderr.  stderr is the "error" stream, and is stream number 2.  > redirects output (usually stdout) to a file.  2> redirects stderr instead.
[17:25] <Wishing_Master> grnt yes there is a new entry when i do iwconfig now
[17:25] <grnt> Wishing_Master: !happy
[17:25] <grnt> Wishing_Master: try connecting now
[17:25] <Wishing_Master> grnt you bet
[17:25] <sary> facelessloser: you could try with dd http://superuser.com/questions/85987/mac-os-x-best-way-to-make-an-iso-from-a-cd-or-dvd
[17:25] <nishtta2> ThePendulum, screwed bcoz this is my work desktop and i havent been able to work for 2 days (since 12.04 launched).. I cant get Unity or Gnome to support 3 monitors
[17:26] <nishtta2> ThePendulum, someone said Nvidia has known issues so i went out and bought 2 AMD cards .. thats no good either
[17:26] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: AMD definitely has more issues than Nvidia. Anyway, have you tried using xrandr?
[17:26] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: Are all 4 screens detected at all?
[17:26] <robgraves1> l
[17:26] <Wishing_Master> grnt connection established, but do i need to do these steps every time?
[17:26] <nishtta2> ThePendulum, no it would only see 1 monitor
[17:27] <grnt> Wishing_Master: I honestly don't now. I don't own maccrap or any broadcom stuff :-)
[17:27] <grnt> *know
[17:27] <Guest56476> facelessloser, is osx seeing the drive from the desktop?
[17:27] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: I guess replugging them while Ubuntu is running doesn't work either?
[17:27] <nishtta2> ThePendulum, i am now trying Xubuntu again with the AMD cards
[17:27] <nishtta2> ThePendulum, i havent tried that
[17:28] <Kruptein> Hey guys I have some problems installing the new version *I am the only one duh*
[17:28] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: I'm running two screens myself, without any issues
[17:28] <Darael> Kruptein: Specifics, please, and we'll see if anyone knows a fix.  Thanks.
[17:28] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: With an AMD cardf
[17:28] <ThePendulum> -f
[17:28] <lazyfingers> I have 16gb ram. I want to dual boot with ubuntu. Should i download and install 64bit version or stick to 32bit with PAE? any pros/cons?
[17:28] <nishtta2> ThePendulum, with Unity or Gnome?
[17:28] <EvilResistance> lazyfingers:  go with 64bit
[17:29] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: Unity. I got them working in Xubuntu as well, and it wasn't too much work, but definitely more than with Unity.
[17:29] <EvilResistance> lazyfingers:  64bit is better suited for systems with significantly more than 4GB RAM
[17:29] <chandru_in> When I play a video with totem on 12.04, the voice is being played at a very low volume while the other sounds in the movie are louder.
[17:29] <lazyfingers> EvilResistance, i remember i've had issues with finding needed soft a few years ago. but don't remember if it was viable at all.
[17:29] <Kruptein> Darael: I was going to give the specifics :p I know how hard helping people is ^^ I'm just doing like tons of things at the same time ^^
[17:29] <Darael> lazyfingers: 64-bit is better, especially if any single process might need to use a lot of RAM - PAE raises the ceiling on the total usable, but not on the maximum a process can use.
[17:29] <chandru_in> There is no problem while playing music though. What could be the problem?
[17:29] <nishtta2> ThePendulum, let me see how the current Xubuntu installation goes.. but there is no support available commercially?
[17:29] <Tinti> lazyfingers: 64 bits for sure, soon or later you will use it.
[17:30] <Darael> Kruptein: Yeah, I understand.  I've been in here for a while this session, I'm starting to autopilot on nonspecific opening lines.
[17:30] <Kruptein> Darael: can believe that ^^
[17:30] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: http://www.ubuntu.com/support <-- Not sure if that gets you any further
[17:30] <Kruptein> so when I'm in the screen where you need to select your timezone  the installer crashes and says that ubiquity stopped working  (btw I'm not using an internet connection to install it and I'm using a flash usb stick as I fail in burning cd's)
[17:30] <nishtta2> ThePendulum, i need someone whoz committed to get me functional again.. i know its possible.. i had 4 monitors with 10.10... why not 12.04
[17:30] <Guest56476> how ca i see my past updates
[17:30] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: It says "Buy professional support services", is that what you're looking for?
[17:31] <alankila> chandru_in: it may be trying to use something like 5.1 audio config and you don't have center channel hooked up
[17:31] <Darael> Guest56476: Take a look at /var/log/apt/history.log and friends.
[17:31] <lazyfingers> thank you all. btw, does ubuntu support i7 with 4 real and 4 virtual cores? does it support virtual cores?
[17:31] <alankila> voice is often there. Best check that audio output is set to 2 channels somehow. Downmixing to 2 channels is generally a good idea.
[17:31] <Guest56476> anyone having trouble with 10.04 and the title bar
[17:31] <EvilResistance> lazyfingers:  most software nowadays uses 64bit stuff, and you can probably get 32bit libraries to run 32bit stuff on 64bit if you really need it
[17:31] <Darael> !anyone | Guest56476
[17:31] <drPoO> is it possible to upgrade to 12.04 LTS from a 10.04 LTS without having to go through the intermediate upgrades?
[17:31] <minimec> Wishing_Master: If I followed the conversation correctly, just put that b43 driver at the end of /etc/modules It will be loaded on boot then.
[17:31] <Darael> !elaborate | Guest56476
[17:31] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: Are you sure you've installed the drivers?
[17:32] <xangua> drPoO: yes, you can upgrade from lts to lts
[17:32] <chandru_in> alankila, the video has 5.1 audio but I play it on headphone. How do I fix it?
[17:32] <Darael> EvilResistance: 32-bit libraries are indeed available - multiarch is enabled by default now!
[17:32] <Wishing_Master> grnt, do you read?
[17:32] <Wishing_Master> grnt, do you read?
[17:32] <nishtta2> ThePendulum, yes throught additional drivers AND direct download from the vendor
[17:32] <Darael> drPoO: Yes, but it's necessary to use the -d flag on do-release-upgrade (or on update-manager)
[17:32] <Wishing_Master> grnt, do you read?
[17:32] <Kruptein> oh and I selected the option to remove my previous copy of ubuntu and totally reinstall it with 12.04 as I want a clean install
[17:32] <nishtta2> nishtta2, neither worked
[17:32] <alankila> chandru_in: look for ways to mix the audio down in the video player's settings, maybe. I don't really know.
[17:32] <kapz> how do I enable Fn+F6(toggle touchpad) key on my lenovo laptop, am using ubuntu 12.04
[17:33] <shankara> Hello
[17:33] <Darael> Wishing_Master: Please don't flood; even three times is a little disruptive.  Cheers.
[17:33] <chandru_in> alankila, I've set it to stereo in totem's references
[17:33] <chandru_in> still no luck
[17:33] <Guest56476> Darael, my title bar dissappears after setting idle and the system locks
[17:33] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: I'd suggest replugging the screens before spending money
[17:33] <Kruptein> so when I'm in the screen where you need to select your timezone  the installer crashes and says that ubiquity stopped working  (btw I'm not using an internet connection to install it and I'm using a flash usb stick as I fail in burning cd's) + I selected the option to remove my previous copy of ubuntu and totally reinstall it with 12.04 as I want a clean install + I'm dual booting with a windows 7
[17:33] <Kruptein> (I added stuff so it's not a repost or spam)
[17:33] <shankara> I am having problem with LBP2900 in 12.04
[17:33] <shankara> Can anyone please help me
[17:33] <Darael> Guest56476: "Title bar" - Does that refer to window decorations (I suspect so), the top panel, or the global menu?
[17:33] <nishtta2> ThePendulum, ok will try..
[17:33] <Kruptein> I might just use wubi although I'm not familiar with it's capacities
[17:34] <Darael> !anyone | shankara
[17:34] <Darael> !elaborate | shankara
[17:34] <nishtta2> ThePendulum, i hope you are around a little longer .. your the only one who has responded :)
[17:34] <Tinti> shankara: which problem?
[17:34] <Guest56476> the window decorations
[17:34] <alankila> chandru_in: okay. Anyway this is just a hypothesis. You should try pluggin your headset into any of the other audio ports to see if there's audio coming out of them, for instance bass and center channel are in one 3.5mm plug and the rear channels in another 3.5mm plug
[17:34] <shankara> ok, thank you, ubottu
[17:34] <chandru_in> alankila, totally weird. I removed and re-inserted the headphones and all is good now! Thanks
[17:34] <lazyfingers> EvilResistance, I've asked because (recommended) on 32bit made be curious
[17:34] <alankila> chandru_in: oh? sounds like it was just a bad insertion then
[17:35] <lazyfingers> EvilResistance, thanks for clarification
[17:35] <chandru_in> alankila, May be :D
[17:35] <Guest56476> Darael,  I mean the windows decorations
[17:35] <shadowspell> hey can anyone help me with this error ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/958002/
[17:35] <EvilResistance> lazyfingers:  its usually recommended because the casual user doesn't always know their architecture, but if you know you have 64bit compatible architecture, go with it :)
[17:35] <maheanuu> good morning all, can someone help me with a Ubuntu / Skype mic problem, when I open skype it works for the first call after i close the call my microphone quits working any ideas
[17:35] <ssta> shadowspell: looks like you need to install subversion
[17:35] <Darael> Guest56476: Right.  I'm not sure what could be causing it, but running "unity --replace" should get them back as a temporary workaround.  Good luck finding someone who can fix it permanently!
[17:36] <sary> Kruptein: what happens if you use an interne connection when installing !
[17:36] <minimec> shadowspell: sudo apt-get install subversion You don't have svn installed.
[17:36] <ThePendulum> nishtta2: I will be around for a few more hours, although I will be gone for about half an hour to an hour soonly for a bath, hehe. Happy to help, especially if no one else cares to.
[17:36] <intore> hi, i installed ubuntu 11.10 and i can't add a network printer. after clicking on add printer it close the window
[17:36] <shankara> Currently I am using ubuntu 10.04, I am having problem in 12.04 which I am planning to install after successfully configuring LBP2900 canon printer. I will be back after booting 12.04 from my pen drive. Thanks a lot.  Sorry for the bad manner in which I asked the question earlier[I did not know it was bad.].
[17:36] <maheanuu> Oh, I am running 10.04.4 LTS 64 bit
[17:36] <Darael> sary: In general, it removes the need to update afterward, because it installs using the latest versions of packages from the repo.
[17:36] <nishtta2> thnx appreciate it
[17:37] <lazyfingers> EvilResistance, by the way. do you know if it's possible to fallback to gnome 2 in 12.04?
[17:37] <theadmin> lazyfingers: No.
[17:37] <EvilResistance> lazyfingers:  you can't
[17:37] <lazyfingers> *sigh*
[17:37] <theadmin> lazyfingers: Give Xfce a go though
[17:37] <EvilResistance> !notunity | lazyfingers
[17:37] <theadmin> lazyfingers: It's similar.
[17:37] <Kruptein> sary problem is I'm on a university network and we need to login on a certain website
[17:37] <Darael> lazyfingers: It hasn't been possible to fall back to gnome2 since 11.10, actually.  I don't know if gnome3 fallback still works.
[17:37] <bemis> where is the appropriate place to inform a package maintainer about a bug in their package?
[17:37] <bemis> (ruby-rvm requires me to "groupadd admin" before it'll install)
[17:37] <theadmin> bemis: Run "ubuntu-bug PACKAGENAME"
[17:38] <bemis> theadmin:  thnx
[17:38] <sary> Kruptein: no , don't install using wubi .. its a problematic when it's time to update/upgrade.
[17:38] <Darael> lazyfingers: Obviously gnome3 works; I refer to the mode known as GNOME Fallback.
[17:38] <ThePendulum> lazyfingers, theadmin: Xubuntu is a nice Gnome2-era Ubuntu substitute, indeed. I have used it during Ubuntu 11.10 because Unity wasn't useable enough for me, yet.
[17:38] <lazyfingers> well, after a little tinkery it might work just like gnome 2
[17:38] <Kruptein> sary ok so do you have other ideas?
[17:38] <ThePendulum> lazyfingers: If you wish, I could set Xubuntu up like Gnome2 for you
[17:38] <Guest56476> maheanuu, are you having any problems with the window manager removing th title bar
[17:38] <shadowspell> ssta: thanks
[17:38] <Kruptein> sary or should I best wait till I'm at my real home where I can just use a normal internet connection
[17:38] <shadowspell> minimec: thanks
[17:39] <neattoast> Hello, does anybody need help?
[17:39] <sary> Kruptein: I see , but can't you use the connection a all ..
[17:39] <ThePendulum> neattoast: That's... that's amazing.
[17:39] <cwill747> Kruptein: you're saying you can't use the internet because of a university thing? I'm at uni and I've dealt with the same
[17:39] <Kruptein> no it's a wired connection I would need to open a browser to be able to really connect
[17:40] <rebe> is there a way to clear terminal without restarting it ?
[17:40] <jrib> rebe: clear
[17:40] <Kruptein> cwill747: do you also need to login on a certain dedicated website to get full internet?
[17:40] <neattoast> ThePendulum: Oh yes...
[17:40] <lazyfingers> ThePendulum, thanks, i know how to make it like gnome 2. it's just i'm very addicted to gnome. my primary distro was debian before ubuntu. i've hopped to ubuntu at 10.04 release and dropped after first sightings of unity, though now i want to give it another try and see if there was any objective reason to abandon
[17:40] <rebe> jrib: thx!
[17:40] <killer> hi....how do i get wireless driver for bcm4312 chipset
[17:40] <cwill747> Kruptein: well, we have to register our computer. After the first time it just works
[17:40] <Kruptein> cwill747: ah no it's different at our college
[17:40] <intore> neattoast, yes, me!
[17:40] <phraktal77> hi all, can't get flash to work on 12.04, in chrome
[17:41] <killer> for suse what i did was install_firmware_bmc43xx
[17:41] <sary> Kruptein: yeah , it's better to wait to use an internet connection ..  but regarding " ubiquity stopped working " am looking at a bug.
[17:41] <neattoast> intore: What is the problem then?
[17:41] <ThePendulum> lazyfingers: Unity has improved quite a lot in Ubuntu 12.04, at least for me. It's enough reason to use Ubuntu rather than Xubuntu. Each for his own, though.
[17:41] <cwill747> Kruptein: so the installer is crashing because you can't get an internet connection?
[17:41] <zoolotto> Birds with lights like bikes
[17:41] <Kruptein> cwill747: no no I just included that info as it might help
[17:41] <lazyfingers> gnome 3 irritated me with lacking configuration and inability to create shortcuts on desktop, without manually creating shortcut files
[17:41] <cwill747> Kruptein: sorry I didn't read back. what's your problem?
[17:41] <Kruptein> cwill747: my installer crashes when I'm at the timezone selection screen with a message that ubiquity stopped working
[17:42] <lazyfingers> unity != gnome 3?
[17:42] <tdelam> Ubuntu as a desktop has come a long long way, I am impressed
[17:42] <phraktal77> 12.04 - Flash not working after update :(
[17:42] <lazyfingers> i mean, is it a fork of gnome 3 or ?
[17:42] <Darael> lazyfingers: unity == gnome3.  Unity != gnome-shell.
[17:42] <intore> neattoast, i want to add a network printer but after clicking add printer it close the window. i've 11.10
[17:42] <Kruptein> cwill747, sary  and as they say earlier in the installer that timezone can be detected automatically if you have an internetconnection I guess ubiquity tries to connect but fails and then just throws an error   although it could be anything
[17:42] <ThinkT510> lazyfingers: unity is built on top of gnome3, it is a shell for gnome3
[17:42] <ThePendulum> phraktal77: Got the same issue on a laptop... :|
[17:42] <pinnerup> I have a problem. It seems after installing 12.04 I cannot create a secondary user with encrypted home directory. That is, I am offered the option to encrypt my home directory during installation, but not afterwards when I want to create a new user.
[17:43] <tdelam> Seems to me that hardware support in Ubuntu/Linux is now almost a thing of the past.
[17:43] <tdelam> almost rare to have hardware that is no longer supported these days
[17:43] <neattoast> intore: can you get a log for that?
[17:43] <shaneoDSC> hey guys is there a chan for ubuntu landscape or can i get assitence in here ?
[17:43] <phraktal77> I tried every trick I knew from older ubuntu, nothing. Flash is broken with almost every update on ubuntu :(
[17:43] <Darael> pinnerup: login as that user and ecryptfs-migrate-home as a workaround.
[17:43] <lazyfingers> ubuntu's own shell only based on gtk3?
[17:43] <sary> Kruptein: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/820485
[17:43] <Kruptein> sary ty
[17:43] <sary> Kruptein: and bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/820485
[17:43] <lazyfingers> thanks, now i get it
[17:44] <pinnerup> Darael: Thanks, I'll try that.
[17:44] <Mneumonic> Can someone explain why after a fresh install of 12.04 my laptop already has the Nvidia proprietary drivers installed in additional hardware?
[17:44] <phraktal77> anyone knows how to reinstall flash on 12.04 after upgrade from 11.10 ?
[17:45] <Kruptein> sary that was twice the same bug :D
[17:45] <ThePendulum> phraktal77: I reckon this issue and I would like to take a solution to the knee.
[17:45] <intore> neattoast, i found this line in syslog: Apr 30 16:26:22 dello kernel: [ 5354.679797] gnome-control-c[4452]: segfault at 58 ip 1da82939 sp bfa97a30 error 4 in libprinters.so[1da6f000+18000
[17:45] <neattoast> intore: It looks like your printer library has a problem. Did you try reinstalling?
[17:45] <sary> Kruptein: my bad , did you find anything useful / releated to your issue !
[17:46] <intore> neattoast, libprinters.so? no
[17:46] <pn_123123> ...
[17:46] <frybye> Mneumonic: "installed" or just shown as being available?
[17:46] <sary> Kruptein: did this issue ever happend to you before ?
[17:46] <Kruptein> sary It seems that most people were able to solve their problem by not checking the download updates while installing option,  but as I don't have an internet connection I didn't select it anyways
[17:46] <Mneumonic> one of them is available and one of them has the green dot and looks installed
[17:46] <Kruptein> sary I never had this issue no
[17:46] <neattoast> intore: Could be. I'm not 100% sure.
[17:46] <Mneumonic> I installd mesa-utils, ran glxinfo and it shows as running the nvidia driver
[17:46] <pn_123123> ...
[17:47] <ThePendulum> What's a nice Paint substitute for Ubuntu?
[17:47] <Kruptein> sary I'm gonna try some different options in the installer later  thanks for your help anyways :)
[17:47] <neattoast> ThePendulum: libreoffice draw :)
[17:47] <Mneumonic> It's not a "problem" i am just curious why it installs it by default on my laptop but not on other computers
[17:47] <sary> Kruptein: okay , good to know .
[17:47] <intore> neattoast, Couldn't find any package by regex 'libprinters.so' is the command output
[17:47] <Kruptein> sary I wouldn't know how you could help me more atm as I don't know more about the problem. :f
[17:47] <Fyodorovna> ThePendulum, never used paint there is gimp, probably needs to be installed.
[17:47] <frybye> Mneumonic: does somebody else have access to the comp. and "did you a favour?"
[17:48] <cwill747> !gimp | ThePendulum
[17:48] <minimec> ThePendulum: Pinta goes in this direction http://pinta-project.com/
[17:48] <FlyingFoX> hi so i justdecided i want to update my kubuntu, but i clicked the 'upgrade' notification thing away. how do i get it back? does apt-get upgrade work?
[17:48] <ThePendulum> I know about GIMP, and I use it all the time, but I need something simpler for my little sister
[17:48] <ThePendulum> But not... too childish
[17:48] <Mneumonic> frybye no it's only my wife and I and we don't use eachothers laptop.  The first time I installed 12.04 and saw it I immediately reinstalled and saw it again.
[17:48] <maheanuu> Guest56476, I am not running windoze on this laptop, only Ubuntu
[17:48] <armink> is there something similar to dd that shows transfer speed and/or amount of transfered data?
[17:48] <Kruptein> ThePendulum: I just give gimp to my sister xD
[17:48] <Mneumonic> The post release version of available and the current one is preinstalled
[17:48] <xangua> ThePendulum: there is Pinta
[17:49] <neattoast> intore: then I'm not fully sure... I'm afraid I don't know that section of ubuntu very well. :(
[17:49] <jrib> ThePendulum: gnome-paint, gpaint, tuxpaint, xpaint
[17:49] <ThePendulum> Kruptein: I tried it, I hardly survived
[17:49] <frybye> Mneumonic: did you leave the /home from the prev. install?
[17:49] <xangua> !info pinta | ThePendulum
[17:49] <ThinkT510> !info tuxpaint | ThePendulum
[17:49] <Kruptein> ThePendulum: I just ran away and said I was busy :D
[17:49] <bemis> looks like ubuntu-bug requires an account .. guess the bug isn't that important :/
[17:49] <ThePendulum> I'm going to check out Pinta
[17:49] <Mneumonic> frybye nope I never save the /home
[17:49] <shaneoDSC> !info landscape
[17:49] <intore> neattoast, don't worry. thanks anyway
[17:49] <Mneumonic> wiped the whole partition and reinstalled
[17:49] <ThePendulum> Tuxpaint is a bit too childish
[17:49] <jrib> bemis: :(
[17:49] <FlyingFoX> armink: rsync can show transfer speed. that might work for you . i used it to copy big files from a dying externel hard drive that was really slow.
[17:49] <ThePendulum> Pinta seems to be about right, going to try now
[17:49] <neattoast> intore: Your welcome.
[17:49] <shaneoDSC> !info canonical-landscape
[17:50] <Mneumonic> frybye so I take it that is odd behaviour?  Like I said it's not a problem as I would install the driver anyway.  I only ask because I've never seen a Linux distro install proprietary drivers by default
[17:50] <ThinkT510> shaneoDSC: what are you trying to do?
[17:50] <frybye> Mneumonic: hard to figure - there would probably be even legal probs if the official ubuntu install grabbed the nvidia driver...
[17:50] <FlyingFoX> armink: i think the way to show that is with the --progress switch. see the man page for further details.
[17:50] <shaneoDSC> sorry looking for help on allowing landscape to access an owncloud service
[17:50] <cwill747> !landscape | shaneoDSC
[17:50] <Mneumonic> frybye that was what I thought too
[17:50] <maheanuu> I would give both arms for a diagnostic to run on Linux to clean up all the crap in the system as when it starts messing up I cannot seem to find any patches or other things to get me back on track
[17:50] <ThinkT510> !info landscape-client | shaneoDSC
[17:51] <ThinkT510> !info landscape-client-ui | shaneoDSC
[17:51] <Mneumonic> frybye maybe I am incorrect in thinking that the green dot means it is installed in additional hardware correct?
[17:51] <frybye> Mneumonic: during the install - did you click on "use restricted sources!?"
[17:51] <iksik_> hello
[17:51] <armink> FlyingFoX: I know and use rsync, but it can't create disk images and so on, right?
[17:51] <shaneoDSC> lol ok guys thanks but still not finding answers there
[17:51] <drPoO> I want to remap Ctrl+Alt+T to terminator but disabling the "launch terminal" Launcher and adding a custom shortcut in the keyboard app does not seem to work
[17:51] <drPoO> any ideas?
[17:51] <FlyingFoX> armink: hm sry i don't know about that.
[17:51] <Mneumonic> frybye I checked both boxes but I've done that in the past and the only thing it installed was flash, mp3 etc
[17:52] <frybye> Mneumonic: The green dod just means "recommended" or?
[17:52] <armink> FlyingFoX: thanks anyway
[17:52] <xangua> drPoO: do you use unity with compiz¿
[17:52] <saml> mplayer doesn't work
[17:52] <Mneumonic> frybye hmm I always thought green dot meant it was active
[17:52] <frybye> Mneumonic: i.e. preselected but does nothing till you confirm?
[17:52] <drPoO> xangua, no i do not
[17:52] <drPoO> xangua, just a fresh 12.04
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> xangua  unity *is* compiz on top of gnome3
[17:53] <andrewaclt> How can I tell if I'm running 12.04 actual release or the beta?
[17:53] <iksik_> my ubuntu (11.04) just seems to be crashed - apt can't upgrade almost ANY package cause of broken dependencies, and few other errors - i'm running under CLI now, so i can't c&p any of these messages, but i hope someone can help me to bring it up again - at this moment even X server/GDM/stuff related is down :(
[17:53] <ThinkT510> frybye: the green dot means active and in use
[17:53] <xangua> drPoO: you mean you use unity with compiz, not unity-2d ¿
[17:53] <FlyingFoX> is there a way to check which ruby version is in 12.04?
[17:53] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, hey.. so i took your advise and popped back the NVidia card
[17:53] <FlyingFoX> without installing it first
[17:53] <sary> Kruptein: just to make things clear , have you checked the iso with md5sum !
[17:53] <cwill747> !info ruby | FlyingFoX
[17:53] <nishttal2> now my 2 monitors are good.. the 3rd one is still weird
[17:53] <Fyodorovna> andrewaclt, if updated your running the final
[17:53] <grnt> I give up. People, can anyone share default gnome-terminal color scheme with me? As it is after fresh ubuntu install
[17:53] <frybye> Mneumonic: perhaps you went thru the activiation twice.. ie - it was top of the list - and you OK'd and then on opening again? But I am no expert.. perhaps sbdy else has an idea...?
[17:53] <alankila> iksik_: combinations of "sudo apt-get -f install" and "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and removal of some broken packages and reinstall after the removal succeeds generally helps
[17:54] <andrewaclt> Fyodorovna, I don't remember, I've been on vacation :P
[17:54] <ThePendulum> nishttal2: What happened?
[17:54] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, the 3rd one does not have the top or bottom panels.. i am running Xubuntu
[17:54] <iksik_> alankila: ok, i'll try
[17:54] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, and it has its own different wallpaper
[17:54] <ThePendulum> nishttal2: There aren't any bottom panels by default. Are you able to move your cursor to it, as well as windows?
[17:54] <phraktal77> In order to install  flash reinstall  flashplugin-installer
[17:54] <alankila> iksik_: at the limit you can hack the packaging scripts around to workaround an issue, for instance if a package can't be uninstalled you can delete the script (after inspecting what it does maybe)
[17:54] <Mneumonic> frybye thanks but I am pretty sure it is preinstalling by itself.  I have installed Ubuntu many times before and never experienced this
[17:54] <meldown> @FlyingFoX you only need to type ruby -v in your terminal
[17:54] <drPoO> xangua, mmm now that you put it like that Im not entirely sure. I think its unity+compiz?
[17:55] <alankila> iksik_: all the package prerm, postrm, etc. scripts are at /var/lib/dpkg/info
[17:55] <iksik_> alankila: got it, thanks ;-)
[17:55] <Kruptein> sary no I didnt lol gonna check it now
[17:55] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, I can move my cursor but not windows (its a separate X-screen)
[17:55] <FlyingFoX> meldown: i am currently not on 12.04 so ruby -v doesn't work
[17:55] <iksik_>  /var/lib/dpkg/info - ok ;-)
[17:55] <Fyodorovna> andrewaclt, Ubuntu is designed to update to the final from the first development release so update and enjoy. :)
[17:55] <frybye> Mneumonic: if you are sure about this - perhaps you should report it as a bug .. like I say there might be all sorts of consequences if it did happen the way you recon - and appart from that there are loads of linux ppl who are v e r y allergic to prop. drivers...
[17:55] <sary> grnt: you mean the Built-in schemes !
[17:56] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, but there should be a top-panel?
[17:56] <xangua> drPoO: then you might need to install Compiz Setting Manager to configure the shorcuts
[17:56] <grnt> sary: yes
[17:56] <andrewaclt> Fyodorovna, so if I run dist-upgrade what happens?
[17:56] <grnt> sary: you know where they are?
[17:56] <alankila> iksik_: also if you have to do other changes to programs or files, you can validate the results later with program called debsums, for instance "debsums -c" can be used to check that the installed files on system match the package manifests
[17:56] <ThinkT510> !dist-upgrade | andrewaclt
[17:56] <iksik_> alankila: it seems that it is trying to install/update some packages anyway, when i'm trying with -f install, and it fails at some debs related to gnome-session, gnome-desktop3
[17:56] <Fyodorovna> andrewaclt,  I just run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in one line
[17:57] <Mneumonic> frybye yea that's part of the worry I guess, I know a lot of people who woudl be bothered by it.
[17:57] <meldown> FlyingFoX than i can't help you, hope you find the answer quickly :)
[17:57] <alankila> iksik_: I can't say anything about the failure, but if you can't install a package, you can often remove that package instead, and that sometimes helps
[17:57] <frybye> Mneumonic: some wizz here can perhaps tell you where to find a log file detailing exactly what happend?
[17:57] <iksik_> alankila: okay, i'll try to remove gnome :D
[17:57] <sary> grnt: i can post you the cod for them .
[17:57] <xangua> drPoO: but be careful with it, you don't want to move or disable some unity stuff
[17:57] <FlyingFoX> meldown: i think i got it :) ubottu knows this stuff :D
[17:58] <alankila> iksik_: you may want to reinstall ubuntu-desktop after doing removals, it'll bring your system somewhat back afterwards
[17:58] <Fyodorovna> andrewaclt, I will say though that being backed up is your best insurance with any OS, I image al lmy installs
[17:58] <grnt> sary: ok, go on
[17:58] <usb333_> guys, how do i remove the nouveau drivers and install the official ones on 12.04?
[17:58] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, pls look at this.. http://i49.tinypic.com/adc7xw.png and http://i45.tinypic.com/wvs4dd.png
[17:58] <iksik_> alankila: ok
[17:58] <Mneumonic> frybye I am going to do another clean install and see what happens.  I will come back into irc once it's done, this time I'm not going to check either of the boxes.
[17:58] <Mneumonic> during install
[17:58] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, this is how my 2 Xscreens look
[17:58] <josefig> someone can explain me why is this happening? http://pastebin.com/RyLJYc4z it says binary file and I can do a tail -n 100 file.php
[17:59] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, the 1st Xscreen has two monitors
[17:59] <frybye> Mneumonic: lot of effort if you need the driver anyhows...?
[17:59] <ThinkT510> usb333: no need to remove the nouveau drivers when installing the nvidia ones
[17:59] <ThePendulum> nishttal2: Are you in Xubuntu now?
[17:59] <iksik_> alankila: hmm, wouldn't it be faster if i will try to remove and install ubuntu-desktop itself?
[17:59] <ThinkT510> !nvidia | usb333
[17:59] <alankila> iksik_: no, it doesn't actually remove the other packages
[17:59] <Mneumonic> frybye mostly I am wondering if I am wrong about this and that it's not actually doing it
[17:59] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, yes sir
[17:59] <usb333_> thx guys
[17:59] <Kircle> So I've done a fresh install of 12.04. Although I can hear sound via my headphones and monitor speakers the volume indicator in the top left appears to be mute. It won't let me adjust the volume.
[17:59] <maheanuu> Could someone give me a hand with pulseaudio mic problems, I am having problems in skype for it
[17:59] <node_> has anyone had a problem getting the dash/tilda/equals/plus/fn keys work after an upgrade?
[18:00] <alankila> iksik_: it merely depends on the regular ubuntu stock package set, so installing that ensures that you will have a desktop ubuntu install
[18:00] <Kruptein> sary where can I find the checksums?
[18:00] <frybye> Mneumonic: ok - but do you really want to do a further install just because of a "gut feeling"
[18:00] <ThinkT510> !md5s
[18:00] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, i have tried every distro except Kubuntu.. this is the closest i have gotten to a functional system
[18:00] <Mneumonic> frybye sure, Ubuntu only takes 15 minutes to install
[18:00] <Mneumonic> I haven't really set up the machine yet
[18:00] <sary> grnt: if you wanna use the colors that are set with the theme , just tick the box " Use colors from system theme " .. and here is the default colors " Text color: #000000 , Background color: #FFFDD .
[18:00] <ThePendulum> nishttal2: I must correct myself then, Xubuntu doesn't have any panels on any screens but the main one by default. You'd have to add them manually.
[18:00] <Mneumonic> so I'm not losing a lot of work or anything
[18:01] <Mneumonic> plus I'd be happy to submit a report to Ubuntu if it is doing this
[18:01] <sary> Kruptein: which version release is the iso image on your usb !?
[18:01] <frybye> Mneumonic: well your lucky - withing some giggery-pokerey i have no grafics on starting...!
[18:01] <Kruptein> sary it should be 64bit 12.04
[18:01] <iksik_> alankila: ok, apt-get remove doens't work... and it fails with message that tells me about packages dependencies, and i need to run apt-get -f install uh
[18:01] <frybye> e e e without...
[18:01] <grnt> sary: I don't have gnome-terminal installed, I'm trying to configure urxvt to use same colors and I can't find what they are anywhere
[18:01] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, i see so this is expected then.. what about the window decoration.. the first screen has blurry effects on the title bar
[18:01] <iksik_> alankila: which does not work either :X
[18:01] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, the second screen is clean
[18:01] <Mneumonic> frybye I'll be back in 20-30 minutse and let you know if it is still happening, if it is I'll have to learn where to report a bug.
[18:02] <alankila> iksik_: you can also use dpkg directly if apt-get doesn't agree to do something that must be done. dpkg is more dangerous though.
[18:02] <frybye> Mneumonic: others here can help you with that then...
[18:02] <ThePendulum> nishttal2: Could you perhaps install TeamViewer, so I can fiddle around a bit to detect the issue?
[18:02] <iksik_> alankila: well, i think that i don't care anymore ;-D
[18:02] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, oh that would be great.. one sec
[18:02] <iksik_> alankila: if my data in /home are safe
[18:03] <frybye> bye for now...
[18:03] <ThinkT510> ThePendulum: does teamviewer work with multiple screens?
[18:03] <sary> Kruptein: check the MD5SUM text file here http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[18:04] <ThePendulum> ThinkT510: I think it does, otherwise I will at least be able to switch
[18:04] <pavan> hello guys,
[18:04] <jamiejackson> While installing a package, there was a bad checksum, and the installation died. Now I want to remove that package, but it keeps trying to download that and perform the checksum during the remove. How do I force-remove the package?
[18:04] <ubuntu> Hello, freinds
[18:04] <ThinkT510> ThePendulum: awesome, i never knew that, thanks for the info
[18:05] <ubuntu> Can anyone help in configuring LBP2900 in ubuntu precise,
[18:05] <ThePendulum> ThinkT510: I am not 100% sure though. I can't remembering TV-ing to a dual screen. But I think I remember that the person who TV'ed to my dual screens saw both my screens.
[18:05] <iksik_> alankila: is it possible to remove package with all deps using dpkg?
[18:05] <sary> grnt: lemme get this right , you wan to set the default gnome-terminal color schemes in urxvt !
[18:05] <ThinkT510> ThePendulum: thats with version 7?
[18:05] <ThePendulum> ThinkT510: Affirmative
[18:05] <ThinkT510> ThePendulum: cool
[18:06] <alankila> iksik_: probably dpkg -B
[18:06] <pavan> when I try to connect my USB modem I get error "Error occured", but connects properly with wvdial, but wvdial isn't compatible with "Empathy", is there any work around for the problem
[18:06] <pavan> on 12.04 64 bit
[18:06] <ThePendulum> ThinkT510: I will find out soon enough. If I understand correctly, nishttal2 is running two screens. I will inform you on if I see either one or both screens with TV
[18:06] <alankila> iksik_: there's also --force-depends which will cause dpkg to just ignore dependency issues. It's obviously dangerous if you target some critical system package with this option enabled.
[18:06] <ubuntu> Anyone knows how to configure LBP2900 in ubuntu 12.04 , Please help
[18:06] <grnt> sary: yes, i need default color values to enter in urxvt config
[18:06] <grnt> *to enter them
[18:07] <ubuntu> Hello, ubottu
[18:07] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, still installing TEamViewer
[18:07] <saml> hey, can I uninstall pulse?
[18:07] <ThePendulum> nishttal2: Could take a while
[18:07] <ubuntu> Earlier my nick name was 'shankara'. I am using 12.04 now
[18:07] <ThePendulum> nishttal2: How's your internet connection?
[18:08] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, 100Gig
[18:08] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, :)
[18:08] <sary> grnt: just a moment ..
[18:08] <ThePendulum> nishttal2: I guess TV won't be such a problem then :P
[18:08] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, whats that?
[18:08] <Kruptein> sary yeah checksum matches
[18:08] <sary> ubuntu: can you nick to shankara with /nick shankara :)
[18:09] <sary> Kruptein: Great.
[18:09] <iksik_> oh damn :(
[18:09] <Kruptein> sary don't know :p it would be better if it didn't then I just had a wrong file
[18:09] <ubuntu> I forgot the password.
[18:09] <ThePendulum> nishttal2: TV = TeamViewer
[18:09] <iksik_> alankila: if i need to remove each package by hand it will kill me - and my hand, there is A LOT of dependencies ;/
[18:10] <iksik_> damn ;/
[18:10] <loganrun> does anyone know how to install gnome extensions from https://extensions.gnome.org
[18:10] <DarkAceZ> Ahhhh!! Where does the minimized stuff go on Unity when it's not on your toolbar??
[18:11] <sary> grnt: how is the color values disaply in urxvt !
[18:11] <ThinkT510> DarkAceZ: try alt-tab
[18:11] <Kruptein> DarkAceZ: do you use gnome 3.2?
[18:11] <grnt> sary: hex
[18:11] <iksik_> hm, what about warning about packages that can't be verified? how can i deal with it?
[18:11] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, just got this error...
[18:11] <grnt> sary: there should be 16 colors in total
[18:11] <alankila> saml: "apt-cache rdepends libpulse0" will be uninstalled if you try. There's thing like gnome-settings-daemon in there, so I'm not very hopeful
[18:11] <armink> loganrun: there should be a on/off-switch on the website, iirc
[18:11] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, Processing triggers for libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 ...dpkg: error processing /tmp/teamviewer_linux_x64.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory. Errors were encountered while processing
[18:11] <saml> yah
[18:12] <DarkAceZ> Kruptein: Using Unity
[18:12] <sary> ubuntu: /join #freenode and ask for a password reset :)
[18:12] <DarkAceZ> ThinkT510: Nope
[18:12] <DarkAceZ> Didn;t work
[18:12] <grnt> sary: 12 not counting background, foreground and their shades
[18:12] <Fyodorovna> DarkAceZ, like what apps?
[18:12] <DarkAceZ> Well, XChat was one
[18:12] <aaron_c> hi, i'm trying to enable dual monitors on ubuntu 10.04, but every time i try to unclick "same image in all monitors" and click apply it tells me to "log out and log back in", but that doesn't help.  does anyone know how to fix this?
[18:12] <NoobTux> need to know if it's safe to make my ubuntu 10.04 my server for my wordpress? or it is suicide!?
[18:12] <Kruptein> DarkAceZ: I think those extensions are gnome shell only
[18:12] <sary> grnt: right , you mean the Color palette ..
[18:13] <DarkAceZ> Osh...
[18:13] <DarkAceZ> No way to get to them?
[18:13] <grnt> sary: ye, you can also drop rgb values if color picker doesn't show hex
[18:13] <Kruptein> DarkAceZ:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/gnome-shell-extensions-site-enters-alpha-makes-adding-extra-features-easy/
[18:13] <Fyodorovna> DarkAceZ, are you running unity without any tweaks in compiz, a reset of unity to the install state might help.
[18:14] <Kruptein> DarkAceZ: no unity
[18:14] <balakrish> hi my skype crashes after the upgrade to 12.04
[18:14] <balakrish> can you help me with this?
[18:14] <loganrun> armink, got it thanks
[18:14] <Fyodorovna> DarkAceZ, you can reset unity with alt-f2 then type in unity --reset
[18:15] <aaas> there's no program that will show the amount of bandwidth running through a particular port is there?
[18:15] <nishttal2> ThePendulum, trying to install again
[18:15] <balakrish> also i find many stuff in ubuntu 12.04 aren't stable.. please help me.
[18:15] <DarkAceZ> Awesome!!
[18:15] <alankila> aaas: there is iotop, it's sorta like that
[18:15] <DarkAceZ> Fyodorovna: That worked wonderfully!
[18:15] <balakrish> i use ubuntu 12.04 with gnome
[18:15] <kapz> how do I enable Fn+F6(toggle touchpad) key on my lenovo laptop, am using ubuntu 12.04
[18:15] <tomcheng76> anyone tried gnome shell in vmware? is it working?
[18:15] <Fyodorovna> balakrish, you need to be specific in the form of questions.
[18:15] <ThinkT510> aaas: through a particular port? not sure, but i use conky to monitor upload and downloads
[18:15] <alankila> aaas: excuse me, iftop
[18:15] <ThePendulum> nishttal2: That's a bummer. I hope the second time will work
[18:16] <ubuntu> Hello
[18:16] <ekoffel> Can some explain how iptables work
[18:16] <Kruptein> stop saying hello ubuntu :p
[18:16] <ubuntu> :(, I could not log in to shankara.
[18:16] <Fyodorovna> DarkAceZ, coolist trick eh. :)
[18:16] <DarkAceZ> :P
[18:16] <ubuntu> sorry, dear friends.
[18:16] <lauratika> rhythmbox wont show icon in unity panel does any one has the sam issue...
[18:16] <Fyodorovna> ubuntu, you are absolved my son.
[18:16] <Kruptein> aren't you spammed like *** ubuntu? :p
[18:16] <aaas> alankila thats more for disck io not network
[18:16] <kapz> lauratika, its merged with sound icon...
[18:16] <DarkAceZ> Unity and Gnome 3 sucks
[18:17] <DarkAceZ> Bai
[18:17] <cheater__> hi
[18:17] <ubuntu> Can anyone help me  in configuring LBP2900 in ubuntu 12.04
[18:17] <ekoffel> This what i am tring to do is a dhcp server with internet access
[18:17] <alankila> ekoffel: not explainable just like that. Internalize this flowchart: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/File:Iptables.gif
[18:17] <sary> grnt: i can see the color name as #FFFDD .. is that what you're looking for !
[18:17] <alankila> aaas: yes, sorry, meant iftop
[18:17] <grnt> sary: yes, this should work
[18:17] <cheater__> i just apt-get dist-upgrade'd my 12.04 and it won't boot, the kernel can't mount the root partition, is that a known issue?
[18:17] <lauratika> but can i have it show on the panel
[18:18] <sary> grnt: the first color is black with color name #2E3436 .
[18:18] <aaas> alankila that looks nice..not really ports, but nice to know
[18:19] <Fyodorovna> cheater__, what ido you see at the boot in errors exactly?
[18:19] <alankila> aaas: yes, it's more like 1 port at a time I guess
[18:19] <ThePendulum> ThinkT510: Logged into nishttal2's computer now, and I see both screens :)
[18:19] <Fyodorovna> s/ido/do
[18:19] <ThinkT510> ThePendulum: awesome
[18:19] <anathema_> hi guys i want just to ask if the default boot screen on 12.04 is just a purple screen or I have graphic issues
[18:19] <ejcweb> I'm preparing to do a fresh install of 12.04. I've backed up /home/username, are there any other folders I should backup?
[18:19] <cheater__> Fyodorovna: let me boot up, but it was something about unrecognized master block
[18:20] <ekoffel> Is there a easy way to do what need to do?
[18:20] <grnt> sary: just put them all in txt and on pastebin
[18:20] <cheater__> Fyodorovna: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[18:21] <grnt> sary: like, black: <value1>, <value2>; red: <v1>, <v2>; etc
[18:21] <cheater__> Fyodorovna: the next line says Pid: 1. comm: swapper/0 Not tainted 3.2.05245generic #37-Ubuntu
[18:21] <cheater__> Fyodorovna: then there's the Call Trace printed out.
[18:21] <ThinkT510> ejcweb: i usually use a seperate storage partition
[18:21] <savid> How do I abort a file copy operation?  I'm hitting the red "X" but nothing's happening.
[18:21] <ubuntu> Bye, take care all
[18:21] <Fyodorovna> cheater__, cool keep that info available, I'm probably not your best help here but I suspect you will get some who are.
[18:22] <savid> Oh, nm.  There was a dialog I wasn't seeing.
[18:22] <aaron_c> hi, i'm trying to add a second monitor to ubuntu 10.04, but every time i uncheck "same image in all monitors" i get a popup saying "please log out and log back in again", but that and restarting doesn't fix the issue.  does anyone know how i can fix this?
[18:22] <Night_Elf> ejcweb: If you only need the documents and files of the user, that is all you need. If you need the installed software of the 'old' system too, you should generate a list of the installed software and use that to reinstall the same on the 'new' system.
[18:22] <cheater__> aaron_c: maybe you need to save something?
[18:23] <cheater__> aaron_c: just a hunch..
[18:23] <aaron_c> cheater__: sorry, i'm not following.  what would i need to save?
[18:23] <cheater__> the preference.
[18:24] <aaron_c> cheater__: i see.  how do i save though? i only see apply and close
[18:24] <Mneumonic> frybye are you still here?
[18:24] <cheater__> try "apply" then.
[18:24] <ejcweb> Night_Elf: Yes, I've done dpkg --get-selections to get a package list, which I guess should do the trick?
[18:24] <aaron_c> cheater__: and when i click apply it givs me the error message
[18:24] <cheater__> k
[18:24] <cheater__> no idea then, broken X config? try removing that (?)
[18:24] <Night_Elf> ejcweb: yes.
[18:24] <intore> hi, do you know to run a command using a user without password? this user is a process
[18:25] <theadmin> intore: sudo -u username command
[18:25] <Zzarkc> Hello. So I was recently attempting to update to 12.04, and while I was doing so, my computer crashed. When I restarted, it wasn't allowing me to complete the boot process. I have an 11.10 install cd that I can boot from, but I was wondering how I might save my information, such as my installed programs, my software sources, and information on my /home. I did separate my /home partition, but I don't know how to make the new installation
[18:25] <Zzarkc> "find it" without overwriting it. Thanks!
[18:25] <cheater__> Zzarkc: what are you seeing? i'm also unable to boot after an upgrade
[18:25] <cheater__> Zzarkc: my pc says it's unable to mount root
[18:25] <theadmin> Zzarkc: Just point /home to that partition during the install, without formatting it
[18:26] <Darael> Zzarkc: There's a manual partitioning option, almost certainly.  At that stage, choose not to format the partition chosen for /home, and it should be fine.
[18:26] <anathema_> is there any fix for the ugly plymouth for 12.04?
[18:26] <sary> grnt: and the other as follow : palette color 2 : #CC0000 , palette color 3 : #4E9A06 , palette color 4 #C4A000 , palette color 5 #3465A4 , palette color 6 #7550B , palette color 7 #06989A , palette color 8 #D3D7CF , palette color 9 #555753 , palette color 10 #EF2929 , palette color 11 #8AE234 , palette color 12 #FCE94F , palette color 13 #729FCF , palette color 14 #AD7FA8 , palette color 15 #34E2E2 , palette color 16 #EEEEEC .
[18:26] <Zzarkc> cheater__: I'm fairly certain it's from an incomplete upgrade. It crashed in the middle of it. I get sent to a command line because I believe it can't find a c library that was being replaced/updated.
[18:26] <cheater__> ah ok
[18:26] <Darael> anathema_: I believe there are a whole series of plymouth-theme-* packages.  Have a look.
[18:27] <grnt> sary: Thanks!
[18:27] <grnt> sary: Will try them now...
[18:27] <Zzarkc> Darael: theadmin: Is there any way I can get a list of my installed programs? I'm assuming I'll have to reset up my emacs again...
[18:27] <theadmin> Zzarkc: dpkg --get-selections I suppose.
[18:27] <cheater__> you can look inside your apt cache for packages.
[18:27] <cheater__> theadmin: he can't boot.
[18:28] <intore> theadmin, thanks a lot, really!
[18:28] <theadmin> cheater__: Well, that's never a problem, you can chroot to a unbootable machine
[18:28] <Night_Elf> Zzarkc: You can try to start with a liveCD and then chroot in the 'old' system. There you might do a "dpkg --get-selections" and see what that brings.
[18:28] <alankila> Zzarkc: you might get it repaired just by writing "dpkg --configure -a" on recovery shell, if that works, and then just restart the upgrade
[18:28] <theadmin> Err, unbootable OS
[18:28] <cheater__> Zzarkc: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[18:28] <anathema_> Darael i dont need now a theme, i want just to fix it because I get an ugly broken just purple screen
[18:28] <alankila> one of the nasty things of the debian-style package management is that everything is half-configured for the longest time because it likes to unpack replacing archives first and then configure them later. That's unfortunately very fragile and if it crashes before the configuring, the system is so broken it won't even boot.
[18:29] <ekoffel> Is there a easy way to setup a dhcp server with internet access. Like a live cd
[18:29] <alankila> and that command finishes the half-ready configuring and often puts the system back into working state
[18:29] <Darael> Zzarkc: Note that /var/cache/apt/archives only contains a subset of installed packages - just the ones downloaded since the last clean.
[18:29] <Zzarkc> alankila: Would that be the recovery option at the boot menu from GRUB, or would I do that form a live CD?
[18:29] <alankila> Zzarkc: the grub recovery, if it works that well, is what you want to try
[18:29] <sary> grnt: You're most welcome.
[18:30] <wfwgwrh> vig
[18:30] <vicx> hey
[18:30] <vicx> ...
[18:30] <Darael> Zzarkc: One would use a live CD (or better yet, alternate with the "Recover a broken system" option) and chroot if the recovery-mode didn't work.
[18:30] <Darael> Zzarkc: In that case, though, make sure the CD is the same architecture as the system in need of rescue.
[18:31] <Zzarkc> Darael: Where is the "Recover a broken system" option?
[18:31] <Darael> Zzarkc: It was in at least some versions of the Alternate CD.  Possibly after loading expert mode?  I forget exactly.
[18:31] <shadowspell> how i can install python-tk package ?
[18:31] <thechef> How can I delete shortcuts in the panel in gnome classic?
[18:31] <Zzarkc> Darael: Alright. I thought there was that option too, but last night I couldn't find it when I tried.
[18:32] <yeats> !info python-tk
[18:32] <kapz> how the hell am i supposed to enable Fn+F6 key combo?????
[18:32] <Night_Elf> shadowspell: sudo apt-get install python-tk
[18:32] <yeats> shadowspell: does 'sudo apt-get install python-tk' not work?
[18:32] <nishttal2> ThePendulum++
[18:32] <alankila> kapz: random guess: maybe it's acpid that sees those requests. Check if you have it installed. If not, sorry for the noise.
[18:33] <ThePendulum> :)
[18:33] <thechef> I messed up my shortcuts. I want to delete some, but I can't figure out how.
[18:34] <Fyodorovna> thechef, can you be a little more descriptive as in what shortcuts.
[18:34] <alankila> acpid is kinda important because it's the thing that hears the power button press for instance, so you generally want that running. For virtual machines, it's what allows the host to shut the system down. It might have other responsibilities, like reacting to those Fn+something keys
[18:34] <ThePendulum> Fyodorovna, thechef: I guess shortcuts in Nautilus, in the left sidebar?
[18:34] <Dr_willis> thechef,  i think its ctrl-rightclick or alt-rightclick..
[18:34] <thechef> Fyodorovna, the top ones in gnome classic in Ubuntu 12.04, the top panel
[18:34] <ThePendulum> I am mistaken, sorry
[18:34] <sary> Kruptein: don't give up on me now :(
[18:35] <robgraves1> =-O
[18:35] <thechef> Dr_willis, doesn't help - with Alt it does nothing, with Ctrl it does the same as normal right click which is "Starten" und "Eigenschaften"
[18:35] <Fyodorovna> thechef, I think Dr_willis is correct here.
[18:36] <trism> thechef: occasionally (if you are using compiz) alt+super+right click
[18:36] <thechef> trism. Thanks, that helped!
[18:37] <Dr_willis> alt-super-duper-ultimate-combo-uno-stand-on-your-head-click
[18:37] <grnt> sary: thanks again, I entered them and they seem to match what of gnome
[18:37] <kapz> alankila, thanks, I checked it's already installed...hey when I first installed ubuntu 12.04 that combo worked! now after updates it doesnt...strange
[18:37] <pyboy> Thechef:go to the any  panel whre the shortcut is  and press alt and right click on the shortcut and there  should be an option to remove the shortcut
[18:37] <trism> Dr_willis: only as a last resort
[18:37] <pyboy> Thechef:go to  any  panel whre the shortcut is  and press alt and right click on the shortcut and there  should be an option to remove the shortcut
[18:38] <Fyodorovna> Dr_willis, don't forget to click your heels and chant this is not kansas any more. :)
[18:38] <alankila> kapz: yeh, unfortunately I don't know anything about this.
[18:38] <thechef> pyboy, thanks trisms suggestion worked already
[18:38] <pyboy> thechef: sorry ignore the fir
[18:38] <thechef> Then: I want to create a shortcut to Libre Office Calc on the desktop. When I Drag & Drop the Icon from the menu, it creates a Shortcut without icon and when I click on that shortcut it suggests me to delete the shortcut for not being a valid one.
[18:38] <kapz> Anyone knows? ????
[18:38] <grnt> People, what's a quick irc command to check if %username% is in room?
[18:39] <pyboy> thechef: ok glad you got your problem fixed
[18:39] <ThinkT510> grnt: try tab completing the nick
[18:39] <grnt> ThinkT510: ah, sure, lol :-p
[18:39] <Night_Elf> graft: lol. you can try type the first 2 or three letters of the username and press TAB several times to see what comes out.
[18:39] <aboudreault> hey, in the ubuntuone client, how can I select a new directory to sync/
[18:39] <aboudreault> ?
[18:39] <Fyodorovna> thechef, says 11.10 but works in precise as well. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html
[18:40] <grnt> I got joined/left notifications dissabled so this will be very handy
[18:40] <Night_Elf> graft: sorry. that was for grnt
[18:40] <Fyodorovna> thechef, you can click on the icon in the launcher set up and chose a icon as well.
[18:40] <Zzarkc> Alright, So I have access to the hard drive, but I'm not sure how to use chroot to retrieve my package list and the like.
[18:40] <Fyodorovna> s/chose/choose
[18:40] <Galaxor> Hi.  I've unlocked my gpg keychain using the pinentry.  How do I lock it again?
[18:40] <sary> grnt: Good to know :)
[18:41] <Galaxor> (it doesn't seem to time out.  My gpg stuff can all be decrypted without a password until I log out)
[18:41] <Darael> Galaxor: Logging out will do it.
[18:41] <Darael> Galaxor: It's possible to stop the agent, but I forget how.
[18:42] <Galaxor> Darael: Is it polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 ?
[18:42] <Darael> Galaxor: I wouldn't have /guessed/ so - I didn't think polkit dealt with the user's gpg keys.
[18:43] <Darael> Galaxor: I was about to suggest that it was gpg-agent, but then I remembered that's only running because I have gpg2 installed...
[18:44] <jtoy> hi
[18:45] <jtoy> is it possible to enlarge the swap space on a live machine?
[18:45] <ThinkT510> jtoy: first swapoff then you can edit the size
[18:45] <Galaxor> Darael: Yeah, this polkit daemon was the only thing I could find in the process list that had the word 'agent' in it.
[18:45] <beandog> jtoy: yah, but not with modifying partitions
[18:46] <beandog> jtoy: you'd have to make a swap file and use that
[18:46] <kelvinella> hi anyone knows which browser supports adblocking in ipad?
[18:46] <grnt> People, yo do already know Left 4 Dead 2 is being ported to Linux? :-) Natively
[18:46] <ThinkT510> kelvinella: this is ubuntu support
[18:46] <Galaxor> Darael: (also ssh-agent, but that is probably unrelated)
[18:47] <Darael> Galaxor: ssh-agent /is/ unrelated.  gpg-agent, were it running, would subsume its capabilities, but that's irrelevant.  Tried running fuser on the keys?
[18:48] <beandog> jtoy: here's an example if you wanted 512MB more: dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/swapfile; mkswap /var/swapfile; swapon -a
[18:48] <beandog> jtoy: I can't say I recommend it though
[18:48] <beandog> whoops
[18:48] <jtoy> beandog: why ,what is wrong?
[18:48] <beandog> jtoy: dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/swapfile bs=1024 count=512
[18:48] <thechef> Fyodorovna, i just copied the .desktop-files from /usr/lib/libreoffice... made them executable. That works for me.
[18:48] <beandog> jtoy: because if you're using swap, that's bad.
[18:48] <jtoy> beandog: yeah, its hadoop being shitty, i have to
[18:49] <Darael> !ohmy | jtoy
[18:49] <Fyodorovna> thechef, cool the desktop needs this to have process to show stuff.
[18:49] <pyboy> does anybody use lynx the web  broswer
[18:49] <Galaxor> Darael: According to fuser, nobody is holding those files open.
[18:50] <Darael> Galaxor: I suspected that might be the case.  It was worth a try.
[18:50] <Corey> pyboy: Occasionally.
[18:50] <Darael> Galaxor: gnome-keyring-daemon?
[18:51] <Darael> Galaxor: I think it might handle GPG keys as well.
[18:51] <GeminiDomino> Is there any way to install 12.04 server without installing any UI at all, or does it have to be removed after the fact?
[18:51] <jtoy> Darael I love unicorns
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> GeminiDomino  server has no GUI by default
[18:52] <ThinkT510> GeminiDomino: 12.04 server doesn't come with a gui
[18:52] <aleprovencio> hello guys, is there a workaround to make unity accept c-m as an enter key, as seen on an emacs key theme?
[18:52] <GeminiDomino> For some reason, the 64-bit server alternate disc does... should I report that as a bug?
[18:52] <Galaxor> Darael: Aha.  I killed it, and now I can't do pinentry anymore.  I have to type the password each time.  That's pretty much what I want.  Thanks.
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> GeminiDomino  sounds more like a wrong cd
[18:52] <ThinkT510> GeminiDomino: server alternate?
[18:52] <GeminiDomino> err
[18:52] <GeminiDomino> alternate
[18:52] <Darael> jtoy: This has what to do with anything?
[18:53] <pyboy> Corey: do you know how i can acces my gmail account to read my emails  on lynx
[18:53] <aaron_c> hi, i've discovered that i can only position my external monitor above or below my laptop monitor.  if i try to position it to the left or right, i get a "please log out and log back in" error, which doesnt do anything.  i'm using gnome-display-properties.  does anyone know what my problem might be?
[18:53] <GeminiDomino> I need the LVM/Raid support of the alternate, but no UI
[18:53] <wikilib> LOL!
[18:53] <wikilib> ¡™
[18:53] <ThinkT510> GeminiDomino: theres desktop, alternate and server, sounds like you got alternate instead of server
[18:54] <foobArrr> my .xsession-errors is 705M large and filled with binary data. how does that happen?
[18:54] <GeminiDomino> ThinkT510: Yes, that's  what I did. So I guess my proper question would be "is there any way to install from the alternate CD without a UI" or a way to install server with LVM/Raid?
[18:54] <fastjoe> haha, got alternate instead of desktop, took one day to understand why livecd is not working
[18:54] <ThinkT510> GeminiDomino: i'm not sure sorry
[18:55] <ThinkT510> GeminiDomino: doesn't the server cd come with raid/lvm?
[18:56] <GeminiDomino> ThinkT510: I'm not sure. The "readme" (http://mirror.symnds.com/distributions/ubuntu-releases/precise/) says I need alternate for it... I guess I'll grab the server ISO and check.
[18:57] <GeminiDomino> Seems a rather large oversight if it doesn't, IMO.
[18:57] <GeminiDomino> But it's been a long time since I had to make the 10.04 discs I've been using since then. :)
[18:57] <jsebean> hey Cmarenburg
[18:57] <Cmarenburg> sebean
[18:57] <ejcwebs> On the 12.04 install disk I've got the option to upgrade from 10.10, or do a fresh install. I've got my home folder backed up. Is doing a clean install better?
[18:57] <Cmarenburg> Hey Jse
[18:58] <ckb> hi guys, is there a way I can install ffmpeg 0.10.2 on ubuntu without compiling it from source?
[18:58] <jsebean> Cmarenburg: Post your problem here and if someone knows the answer, they'll help
[18:58] <Cmarenburg> ok
[18:58] <HoNgOuRu> hi, where does ubuntu 11.10 checks for session managers ? ~/.Xsession ?  ~/.xinit ????
[18:58]  * ThinkT510 dislikes how outdated the ubuntu wiki gets
[18:59] <Cmarenburg> Ok  so when i try to do a dual boot i click the 'run aside'  button and then ubuntu shuts down and just restars HP pavilion dv6 is my computer
[19:00] <jn_> Anyone know how to fix this error : Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "atk-bridge" ?
[19:00] <jsebean> Cmarenburg: you could try to manually partition it?
[19:01] <greenit> help! i wanted to update my computer, but it writes "ttf-mscorefonts-installer: downloading http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/arial32.exe", but there is no network-traffic.... its there for more than 20 minutes now...
[19:01] <greenit> i mean update from 11.10 to 12.04
[19:01] <jsebean> greenit: You running something in terminal?
[19:02] <jsebean> greenit: oh
[19:02] <apavlov> Hey folks. Installed 12.04 on a desktop with NV Geforce 7600GT (drivers from nvidia.com installed, using their .sh installer), and during the package installation there were lots of messages stating that there were lots of previous-version packages were held due to some broken packages (the terminal window is 2 lines high - it's ridiculous). Now, after the first reboot I'm seeing the "Frequency out of range" on my monitor. Any ideas how to fix the resoluti
[19:03] <ThinkT510> apavlov: any reason you aren't using the nvidia drivers from ubuntu repos?
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> greenit  exe is for windows, any reason you need that?
[19:04] <apavlov> ThinkT510: seem to have had some performance issues a while ago (forgot to say that I'm upgrading 10.04 LTS) - used them from the Hardy times
[19:04] <minimec> apavlov: if the nvidia driver was not installed correctly, a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' should give you back the 'nouveau' driver probably.
[19:05] <greenit> MonkeyDust, i think it is installed for wine
[19:05] <node_> you know if you choose encrypt home drive it tells yousave this long password, how do i get that long password again so i can write it down?
[19:05] <apavlov> minimec: did that upon booting from a live 12.04 USB stick - is that enough? I can't seem to boot grub with the proper monitor frequency, too
[19:05] <ThinkT510> MonkeyDust: thats the ttf installer for the ms ttfs
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> ah wine
[19:06] <node_> its not the password you set its soem special one, but it says if you don't save it now, you can see again by running some other command i don't know what command that is
[19:07] <minimec> apavlov: What? grub runs on the framebuffer. So no nvidia driver involved there. MAybe 'auto adjust' the screen when grub starts.
[19:07] <apavlov> minimec: hmm, maybe I held down the wrong Shift?.. let me try
[19:08] <Joe_CoT> hey, Unity seems to add this really weird keyboard shortcut (control + alt + numpad) which changes the size of windows. I had switching workspaces to that, so it's really annoying. any idea how to disable that behavior?
[19:08] <Darael> Joe_CoT: Install the compizconfi-settings-manager package, run ccsm, disable the Grid plugin IIRC.
[19:09] <Darael> Joe_CoT: It will be necessary to configure the workspace switching in CCSM, too.
[19:09] <Joe_CoT> cool, thanks!
[19:09] <greenit> the updater still does nothing anymore... what shall i do? when i press crtl-c it asks if i want to cancel... however, when i press yes, it does nothing, help :S
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> Joe_CoT  press the "win-key" for some seconds, a window with shortcut keys will pop up
[19:10] <tfitts_home> should i be able to upgrade my 10.04 server to 12.04 from the command line?  It says no upgrade found when I try.  I found a guide and it upgraded me to 10.10
[19:10] <Daghdha> What is the top most bar on the ubuntu desktop called? The one with minimize/maximize/close on the left and some other stoff including username on the right.
[19:11] <Daghdha> In 12.04
[19:12] <L3top> tfitts_home you have to do upgrade with the -d switch until a point release is out.
[19:13] <Joe_CoT> Darael, that worked, thanks!
[19:14] <L3top> greenit msttcorefonts is a perpetual pain...
[19:14] <Darael> Joe_CoT: Glad to hear it.  Try exploring ccsm, too - compiz has all sorts of [nifty|annoying] (delete as appropriate) features.
[19:15] <Joe_CoT> yeah
[19:15] <greenit> L3top, what shall i do?
[19:15] <Joe_CoT> though I just had Unity/compiz flat out die entirely and restart, not a good introduction
[19:16] <alankila> at least it restarted...
[19:16] <Joe_CoT> haha
[19:16] <Joe_CoT> and randomly the launcher panel will decide it refuses to display
[19:17] <node_> ///
[19:17] <L3top> greenit: one second
[19:17] <Daghdha> How do i change the text color in the top bad?
[19:17] <pyboy> compiz is fucked up it has never worked on my laptop i dont know why, dont enable the desktop cube
[19:17] <OfficeITGuy149> Hello #Ubuntu! I have a Lenovo U300s and the trackpad isn't so great while running Ubuntu. I think multitouch isn't working. Can someone refer me to some documentation on how to fix this? And help me define what "multitouch" really is?
[19:18] <L3top> greenit: can you apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[19:18] <ThinkT510> pyboy: i'm pretty sure unity breaks if you try the cube
[19:18] <greenit> L3top, i started the graphical update... shall i stop it?
[19:18] <L3top> No
[19:18] <L3top> let it do what it does, then try that
[19:19] <greenit> L3top, thats the problem, it does nothing...
[19:19] <L3top> greenit: do you have internet still?
[19:19] <L3top> greenit: ping -c 2 google.com
[19:19] <greenit> L3top, erm... i am chatting in this irc with you, so yes^^
[19:20] <L3top> lol... ok
[19:20] <minimec> OfficeITGuy149: when you tap on the tab with two fingers, would you get a context menu?
[19:20] <L3top> greenit: for sake of clarity, often people who come here with problems are on a different machine.
[19:20] <greenit> L3top, k^^
[19:20] <pyboy> ThinkT510: yes and for some gay reason i cant have wobbly windows when i enable it,it disables the unity dock, which i never use
[19:21] <L3top> greenit: my question was not is there an active internet connection at the spot, but if the machine in question could still access it
[19:21] <OfficeITGuy149> The tab? If I click with two fingers, a 'right click' is performed
[19:21] <greenit> L3top, yep
[19:21] <minimec> OfficeITGuy149: Ok. That is good sign. ;) That is multitouch...
[19:21] <ThinkT510> pyboy: there is a lot of things in compiz that can break unity (hence why it is not recommended to use ccsm)
[19:22] <minimec> OfficeITGuy149: So what exactly is the problem?
[19:22] <L3top> If you stop the non-functioning installer and in a terminal type sudo dpkg --configure -a   does that do anything?
[19:22] <OfficeITGuy149> If I try to move a window by pressing the trackpad down, then dragging with another finger, I get a right click. If I hold the button down with a pencil, then drag with a finger, the window moves.
[19:22] <ciscophoneguy> What's the official fix for blue people when running flash on 12.04 x64?
[19:22] <greenit> L3top, if you say me how i can stop the installer... shall i kill it? there is no "x" to close it
[19:23] <OfficeITGuy149> it doesn't seem to be able to know what to do with two fingers on the trackpad at once
[19:23]  * L3top thought you had stopped it before greenit
[19:23] <ThinkT510> ciscophoneguy: do you have hardware acceleration?
[19:23] <greenit> L3top, nope, still active^^
[19:23] <ciscophoneguy> yes
[19:23] <greenit> L3top, but it does not do anything
[19:23] <ThinkT510> ciscophoneguy: try turning it off
[19:23] <Daghdha> How does one change window color and text colors in unity 2d ?
[19:23] <ciscophoneguy> Can't, It does not allow me to. Locks
[19:24] <OfficeITGuy149> I think the solution has something to do with a xorg.conf document and the EmulateTwoFingerMinZ and EmulateTwoFingerMinW options, but I'm unsure where this file is located
[19:24] <minimec> ok. I think I see now. You don't have any mouse buttons anymore on that computer. Only that trackpad. Is that correct?
[19:24] <ciscophoneguy> ThinkT510: Is there another way to disable?
[19:24] <td123> does ubuntu have a python2 symlink?
[19:24] <minimec> OfficeITGuy149: ok. I think I see now. You don't have any mouse buttons anymore on that computer. Only that trackpad. Is that correct?
[19:25] <Darael> OfficeITGuy149: xorg.conf is in /etc/X11, if that helps.
[19:25] <td123> ie, can you run python2 in a terminal?
[19:25] <ThinkT510> OfficeITGuy149: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (it is usually dynamically loaded so that file may not exist)
[19:25] <ThinkT510> ciscophoneguy: not sure sorry, i've never had the problem (just seen others with it)
[19:26] <greenit> L3top, is this the process i shall kill? "/usr/bin/dpkg --force-overwrite --status-fd 18 --configure libexpat1 libfreetype6 ttf-dejavu-core fontconfig-config libfontconfig1 libpixman-....."
[19:26] <MirkoKa> td123: if python2 is installed, then yes, there should be a /usr/bin/python2 symlink
[19:26] <Psi-Jack> Alright. Sun Java 6 in Ubuntu 12.04 installation procedures anyone?
[19:26] <ciscophoneguy> Anyone know what the fix is for smurf people running flash on 12.04 x64?
[19:26] <minimec> OfficeITGuy149: When you double-tap with one finger on a folder and stay with the finger on the pad on the second tap, can you move the object then?
[19:27] <L3top> wow... yeah... that would be the one... I was trying to figure out the best way...
[19:27] <td123> MirkoKa: cool, thank you
[19:27] <L3top> greenit: I was trying to see what you should be grepping... clearly you were quicker on the draw
[19:28] <greenit> L3top, hm... interesting... now the installer does something... it wrote that it can't install this and well, now it seems like it installs everything else^^
[19:28] <ciscophoneguy> What's the official fix for flash tint problem on 12.04 x64? I'm can't disable hardware acceleration, Anyone know of another way to do it aside from the Adobe settings screen?
[19:29] <L3top> greenit:  when finishes, do try and fix that upgrade again... I expect there may be some dpkg failure before it is all said and done, so stick around.
[19:29] <Ben64> ciscophoneguy: why can't you disable hardware acceleration
[19:29] <greenit> L3top, k :)
[19:30] <matt_> Question about the old image viewer xv on Ubuntu 11 -- patches work for Ubuntu 10, will not compile now
[19:30] <ciscophoneguy> Ben64: It does not allow me to. The settings window comes up but it does not respond to any clicks
[19:30] <xbb> I am using Gnome Desktop in Ubuntu 12.04, in pre 12.04 releases I could hide top and bottom panels, can I do this in my current setup?
[19:30] <xbb> sorry..
[19:31] <xbb> In pre 12.04 release I can hide top/bottom panels. Can I do this in 12.04 running Gnome Desktop?
[19:31] <Ben64> ciscophoneguy: well thats the fix
[19:32] <pyboy> xbb:yes you should be able to  press alt and right click on the panel
[19:32] <ciscophoneguy> Ben64: I found that on the boards but I'm unable to disable it. Others were having the same issue when trying to disable
[19:33] <ciscophoneguy> Does Flash have a config file I can modify to disable Hardware Acceleration?
[19:33] <Dreamer3> trying to write my own upstart… is there any way to get visibility into what is going wrong?
[19:33] <xbb> pyboy, pressed r-click + alt nothing happens. Should I enable this somewhere?
[19:33] <Dreamer3> the log file just indicates the error code
[19:34] <Dreamer3> can i get the error output or similiar?
[19:34] <xbb> pyboy, alt+r-click rather
[19:34] <SallyD> hey
[19:34] <xbb> with alt+left click I can move the panels
[19:34] <ThinkT510> ciscophoneguy: where is the settings screen? is it when you rightclick a flash vid?
[19:35] <ThinkT510> just missed him
[19:35] <xv_image_viewer> Looking for help compiling the old xv image viewer on Ubuntu 11 or 12 -- anyone got it to work ?  It works on 10 with the patches available on the web.
[19:35] <dwkoste> ga.... i tried to upgrade ubuntu from 11.10 to 12.04... it now hangs at the start up screen.... my machine is dual boot and I am able to boot into an old 11.04 instance of ubuntu... and can mount the new version that resides on same hard drive.... what is the easiest way to fix the new version from the old?
[19:36] <greenit> L3top, it said update completed, but errors occured... nothing else... dpkg --configure -a does nothing
[19:36] <MirkoKa> xv_image_viewer: can't help with 11 or 12 yet, but for others, please post the make output (ie. the compile error) on pastebin
[19:36] <L3top> sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade     greenit
[19:36] <pyboy> xbb:i said alt and right click
[19:36] <apavlov> minimec: thanks for your help, it was actually grub hanging on its prompt, waiting for a single Enter keypress :) Auto-adjusting my monitor at this point looked like it was going to burn down, but at least I saw what was supposed to be displayed on the screen.
[19:37] <xv_image_viewer> Thanks Mirkoka, where do I post the link to the pastebin ?
[19:37] <MirkoKa> xv_image_viewer: here ;)
[19:37] <esak> i install ubuntu 12.04 . when is runnig for login. wirte" waiting for configure network". how sole this problem ??
[19:37] <xbb> pyboy, yes, alt + right click that's what I did
[19:37] <silversword411> New question: I'm wondering if in the last 7-10 days the download size for 10.04.4 LTS sudo apt-get update has increased in size.....by a major amount. I see it's around a 13-15MB download now, and if that's running on 30+ servers every 60 mins I'm seeing a major bandwidth spike that was never there before 4/24/2012 (a week ago). Can anyone help?
[19:37] <greenit> L3top, updated 1 package, but no ms-ttf-thingy
[19:38] <Daghdha> How does one get an application window in unity from one virtual desktop to another virtual desktop?
[19:38] <dwkoste> ga.... i tried to upgrade ubuntu from 11.10 to 12.04... it now hangs at the start up screen.... my machine is dual boot and I am able to boot into an old 11.04 instance of ubuntu... and can mount the new version that resides on same hard drive.... what is the easiest way to fix the new version from the old?
[19:38] <L3top> greenit sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[19:38] <MirkoKa> Dreamer3: not sure, but you could try to log yourself with the logger command, see "man logger"
[19:38] <Joe_CoT> unity/compiz isn't as buggy as it used to be, but it's still buggy. my menus have disappeared. even when the window isn't maximized
[19:38] <L3top> I am curious about the rest of those libs as well
[19:39] <minimec> apavlov: no problem. Again if you 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', the broken nvidia driver on your USB stick will be disabled, probably.
[19:39] <gimpy49> I just installed 12.04 on a laptop, it showed my wireless card during the install, I have a wlan0 interface but Network Manager shows me nothing for wireless.  Where can I look to fix it?
[19:39] <Dreamer3> MirkoKa: it's the exec that's failing
[19:39] <xbb> Daghdha, right click -> move to another workspace
[19:39] <L3top> greenit: If I know msttcorefonts it will tell you it is already at its newest version... so you might have to throw a --reinstall in there
[19:39] <OfficeITGuy149> minimec: I can move windows and other objects with double-tap and one finger. I cannot move objects or windows if I click the trackpad down with my thumb and drag with my finger.
[19:40] <Daghdha> in 10.x i could just drag it around in the tiny virtual desktop preview
[19:40] <silversword411> Has anyone else seen a major bandwidth increase on running sudo apt-get update lately?
[19:40] <Fyodorovna> gimpy49, you might look in additional drivers to see if anything is available.
[19:40] <MirkoKa> Dreamer3: see if his helps you: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging
[19:40] <NFisher> Hi there! is there a possibility to have truly separated workspaces in ubuntu lucid using compiz?! I wanted to have several workspace on which i could put desktop-symbols for each one individually..?
[19:40] <NFisher> i.e. when i have a symbol on my workspace 1 i want it not to appear on workspaces 2-4..
[19:40] <pyboy> silversword411: no
[19:40] <OfficeITGuy149> Thanks so much for your help, by the way. This problem is for an executive and not having a solution is killing my productivity
[19:41] <silversword411> Pyboy: how big a download do you have when you run a sudo apt-get update?
[19:41] <Dreamer3> >> /tmp/upstart.log 2>&1 may help
[19:41] <Dreamer3> trying
[19:41] <pyboy> silv
[19:41] <gimpy49> Fyodorovna: I don't think it's a driver issue.  The system sees the interface just fine.  If I hit the wireless button it logs that it is bringing the itnerface up but disconnected.
[19:41] <Daghdha> i see xbb. So that does not work for maximized application windows?
[19:41] <minimec> OfficeITGuy149: Ok. So there might be the possibility to 'create' a button area for left- and right- click. Open a console and type synclient once. You should see a config for your pad.
[19:41] <greenit> L3top, thx, reinstalled it, i hope it works... one last question: i am simularity updating my server, i am connected via ssh, can i log back in to the server when i restart now?
[19:42] <Dreamer3> ingo :)
[19:42] <silversword411> I'm Seeing: Fetched 13.1MB in 17s (736kB/s) Reading package lists... Done
[19:42] <Dreamer3> MirkoKa: thanks!
[19:42] <OfficeITGuy149> I see some options, including "-l list current user settings"
[19:42] <L3top> should be able to... I would exit the session before rebooting though.
[19:42] <OfficeITGuy149> is that what you mean?
[19:42] <Daghdha> The old way of virtual desktop preview was infinitely better :/
[19:42] <error1_> I installed the new ubuntu, in the installation disk three was 3d support, but now that its installed unity 3d will give a black screen and gnome shell crashes before it starts
[19:43] <MirkoKa> NFisher: yes, compiz implements both viewports and workspaces. with the cube you would have one cube for each workspace. see CCSM -> General Options -> Desktop Size and look for the keycombos to change cubes/wiorkspaces
[19:43] <minimec> OfficeITGuy149: You can maybe adjust the options AreaBottomEdge, the RightButton- stuff ans so on.
[19:43] <error1_> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6150SE nForce 430/integrated/SSE2
[19:43] <pyboy> silversword411: my internet is crap  even  i have no problems  doing a sudo apt-get update
[19:43] <xbb> Daghdha, it should, but in Chrome for example I need to enable system titles and borders by right clicking on space next to tab to enable title bar to bring up workspace move menu
[19:43] <OfficeITGuy149> How do I make adjustments to these settings?
[19:44] <OfficeITGuy149> Is it a .conf file somewhere?
[19:44] <esak> i install ubuntu 12.04 . when is runnig for login. wirte" waiting for configure network". how sole this problem ??
[19:45] <Robert_____> I just upgraded ubuntu to 12.04 from 11.10 and I now get a vga mode not support error on my monitor how do I get to grub
[19:45] <minimec> OfficeITGuy149: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man1/synclient.1.html$
[19:45] <NFisher> MirkoKa, thats cool, bt id rather prefer to use Desktop-Wall instead of cubes for i sometimes need to have an overview over my all Workspaces at once..
[19:46] <L3top> error1_: did you install a proprietary driver?
[19:46] <Starminn> What's with windows in Ubuntu 12.04 w/ Unity not respecting their workspaces? If I'm on a workspace and switch to another application, instead of switching to the workspace, the system moves the window to show about 1/4th of it on the current one.
[19:46] <Dreamer3> hmmmm
[19:46] <L3top> error1_: can you give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[19:46] <pyboy> Robert_____:keep tapping the tab key on startup that is what i did
[19:47] <Fyodorovna> Robert_____, holding the shift down after the bios on a single install should have grub show.
[19:47] <Robert_____> I tried that and also tried tapping the esc key
[19:47] <minimec> OfficeITGuy149: for example: synclient AreaBottomEdge=3500 (value) may be different on your device). That would shrink the bottom edge of your pad, so the 'moving' surface would be smaller.
[19:47] <silversword411> Someone running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, can you run a sudo apt-get update and let me know how much data is downloaded?
[19:47] <DarkSector> If I were to upgrade to anything beyond 11.10 can I retain my Gnome Classic or Gnome 2 interface?
[19:47] <DarkSector> I just hate unity
[19:47] <DarkSector> and if I can, how?
[19:47] <nperry> DarkSector, yes you can.
[19:48] <Fyodorovna> DarkSector, classic yes
[19:48] <MirkoKa> NFisher: could still be the same, unfortunately, I can't find the keyboard settings for switching desktops anymore, so can't test ATM
[19:48] <MirkoKa> NFisher: s/could/should/
[19:48] <DarkSector> is there an option that it asks for or do I need to download extra packages?
[19:48] <gimpy49> silversword411: That would vary between boxes depending how many repos you have and maybe how out of date you are.
[19:48] <OfficeITGuy149> minimec: I just found these instructions, do you think they make sense? http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2009/03/multi-touch-for-anyall-synaptics.html
[19:48] <xbb> pyboy, so ALT+R click should work without any additional settings?
[19:48] <NFisher> MirkoKa, i just tried to add more "Desktops" in  CCSM -> General Options -> Desktop Size, but it wouldnt let me
[19:49] <pyboy> xbb:yes
[19:49] <DarkSector> Fyodorovna, nperry, is there an option that it asks for or do I need to download extra packages?
[19:49] <Robert_____> can you drop to a text interface during the bootup after grub?
[19:49] <P5King> Hello, how do i go about letting users use screen, whenever i try it tells me Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied
[19:49] <Kurt_> hello
[19:49] <Kurt_> looking for some help with ssl virtual hosting
[19:49] <Kurt_> i'm using apache
[19:49] <gimpy49> Kurt_: ##httpd
[19:49] <silversword411> gimpy: that what I was starting to wonder.....has one of the repo's dramatically increased in size because of the recent release of 12? I'm checking against lucid......
[19:50] <Fyodorovna> DarkSector, the classic is part of the gnome-shell which gives you gnome 3 as well.
[19:50] <pyboy> xbb:google it mate
[19:50] <DarkSector> Fyodorovna: Can't I just have Gnome Classic and nothing else
[19:50] <minimec> OfficeITGuy149: I don't think so, as they do not define any area, where you want to have any buttons. The multitouch functions on your pad are working, but you don't have a button area defined.
[19:50] <DarkSector> or you know what
[19:50] <DarkSector> nevermind
[19:51] <DarkSector> I'll just use Debian, thanks for your help Fyodorovna
[19:51] <OfficeITGuy149> hold on, I thought multi touch was defined by being able to recognize more than one finger
[19:51] <Kurt_> gimpy49: I can't post to that channel.  can you assist?
[19:51] <Fyodorovna> DarkSector, I believe both unity and the classic are on top of gnome 3 basically probably a severe hack to have just the classsic.
[19:51] <OfficeITGuy149> It does not seem to have the ability to do that
[19:51] <pyboy> DarkSector: yes you can  as long as you dont remove ubuntu-desktop
[19:51] <error1_> L3top http://paste.ubuntu.com/958330/
[19:51] <DarkSector> It's alright, I think I'll migrate.
[19:51] <DarkSector> thanks and bai
[19:52] <error1_> L3top nope i didn't...
[19:52] <P5King> Anyone know? :P
[19:52] <esak> i install ubuntu 12.04 . when is runnig for login. wirte" waiting for configure network". how sole this problem ??
[19:52] <xbb> pyboy, it's "hold left click, hold alt, right click" http://askubuntu.com/questions/125891/panel-settings-not-appearing-on-right-click-in-gnome
[19:53] <minimec> OfficeITGuy149: Have a look at post '2' by 'anrxc' here. That is a good start... https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1077796#p1077796
[19:54] <pyboy> xbb:wait a few mins
[19:54] <L3top> error1_: the nvidia-current driver has some issues atm, but are adverse to trying it? sudo apt-get install nvidia-current          I was a little surprised that your chipset is covered, I thought that was stuck in 173 land for support... but it should go.
[19:54] <alloutdoorparts> how do I get ubuntu to boot showing errors?  I just installed ubuntu 12 can get a vga mode not support error on the screen
[19:55] <L3top> silversword411: yes. Fetched 20.7MB
[19:55] <savid> I'm experiencing some major lag on my computer while copying files to my external USB drive.  Is that normal?  I get lag when typing anything in any window, as well as delayed mouse clicks.
[19:55] <alloutdoorparts> I have been trying holding the shift during bootup and also esc key but no luck bringing up grub
[19:55] <minimec> OfficeITGuy149: So the idea is to define a "SoftButtonArea", you see?
[19:56] <L3top> silversword411: I have a couple of oddball repos on the 1004 stuff, but the vast majority came from ubuntu.
[19:56] <Daghdha> At the top of my desktop it says 'Ubuntu Desktop'. This is in black. How do i make this white?
[19:56] <Lorra> Hello everyone! Does anybody have any idea of where the noip2 package went?
[19:56] <Lorra> I can't find it anyore and I was enjoying it until last update
[19:56] <Lorra> :'(
[19:57] <MirkoKa> NFisher: can't help you. actually I'm sure that I had multiple workspaces (cubes) with compiz once (8.04), now I can't even find a way to have more desktops. and everything I find on the web are about multi-head setups
[19:58] <pyboy> xbb:hi
[19:58] <Lmce> Daghdha: in appearance change the theme from ambiance to radiance
[19:58] <daviddoria> I am following some instructions to use openconnect to connect to a Cisco AnyConnect VPN. When I click "add" in the "manage connections" dialog, I am expecting to see an "openconnect" option, but I do not. I have installed the packages 'openconnect' and 'network-manager-openconnect' - does anyone know what else I can do?
[19:58] <Pici> Lorra: It looks like it was removed from Debian and thus removed from Ubuntu. See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653957
[19:58] <xbb> pyboy, hey
[19:59] <Daghdha> Lmce: THanks
[19:59] <itguy614> anyone work with apache virtual hosts on 12.04?
[19:59] <itguy614> have a few questions.
[19:59] <OfficeITGuy149> minimec: I'll read that, thank you.
[19:59] <error11> L3top I have the latest nevidia-current.....
[19:59] <minimec> OfficeITGuy149: no problem.
[19:59] <splnet> I have an nVidia G86 [Quadro NVS 290]. Can anyone recommend a decent nvidia driver? The screen redraw rate is pathetic.
[20:00] <L3top> error11: you do now or you have always?
[20:00] <error11> always
[20:00] <pyboy> xbb:read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/69576/how-to-customize-the-gnome-classic-panel it should be the same on ubuntu 12.04
[20:00] <splnet> I have version nvidia kernel version 280.13
[20:00] <Sonic132> Ok hey guys. I have an issue upon installing 12.04 LTS (64). I have no working sound for some reason. Anyone help me troubleshoot why and help fix?
[20:00] <Sonic132> I'm still a noobie.
[20:00] <Pici> itguy614: Just ask the channel... or if its really specific, #httpd might be useful.
[20:00] <pyboy> xbb:dont l
[20:00] <pyboy> xbb:dont look at the top of the page
[20:01] <Sonic132> splnet: The default one works fine for me.
[20:01] <splnet> Someone was on here earlier talking about an older nvidia cards. What is the best driver?
[20:01] <gameid> !info noip2
[20:01] <Lorra> Pici, used a self compiled version, I do need it
[20:01] <pyboy> xbb:here is what  you want You must use Alt + Right Click in the panel... In some cases its Super+Alt+Right CLick. You will see the properties option, as well as Add To Panel :-)
[20:01] <L3top> kx recommends downgrading to .33 from nvidia-current (.40). I have had success using the xswat ppa and grabbing their version.
[20:01] <splnet> Sonic132: ok when using gvim, after a while the screen does not redraw. I'm assuming this is a nvidia driver issue
[20:02] <Starminn> What's with windows in Ubuntu 12.04 w/ Unity not respecting their workspaces? If I'm on a workspace and switch to another application, instead of switching to the workspace, the system moves the window to show about 1/4th of it on the current one.
[20:02] <Pici> Lorra: If you compiled it yourself, then why does it matter if its in our repositories?
[20:02] <error11> okay
[20:02] <error11> thanks :)
[20:02] <itguy614> all of this is on 12.04.  using ldirectord for load ballancing and connecting to an apache server.  ip on apache server is virtual.  port 80 traffic works fine.  port 443 does not.  i can connect to the actual address with 80 and 443 of the apache server with no problems.
[20:02] <Sonic132> splnet: Noobie here. Just saying that the default driver works for me. Mine being Nvidia as well. But goodluck.
[20:02] <xbb> pyboy, thanks I see it - win+alt+right click. left-click -> alt -> right-click is awkward to press.
[20:03] <splnet> L3top: what is the xswat ppa? Do you have a link with more details?
[20:03] <Sonic132> Anyone help me troubleshoot my No Audio issue in 12.04?
[20:03] <Lorra> Pici, I compiled it right now, I would prefer it was in the repositories because so I would be able to enjoy the work of the Ubuntu team on it
[20:03] <Lorra> Pici, and also being able to uninstall properly
[20:03] <L3top> from what I have read, there was a security update that attempted to fix a gpu exploit and some other minor things... and the result has been horrendous for unity and regression in general. That goes for  you too splnet
[20:03] <pyboy> xbb:no problem lad glad i can help you
[20:03] <xbb> pyboy, thanks
[20:03] <L3top> on nVidias side.
[20:03] <ThinkT510> !checkinstall | Lorra
[20:03] <Pici> Lorra: Neither the Ubuntu nor the Debian team are doing any work on it though.  Thats why it was removed.  You also could use checkinstall to install it so that you can remove it easily.
[20:03] <L3top> one moment...
[20:04] <xbb> Sonic132, first questions 1) are speakers plugged in and working? 2) Are speakers not on mute? I am asking because these get me all the time when audio is not working :)
[20:05] <L3top> splnet: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[20:05] <Lorra> Pici, ThinkT510 I've already done a make install, anyway the install target in the Makefile is pretty short and looks clear, so it shouldn't be that bad removing it
[20:05] <Sonic132> xbb: Yes they are now. When I tested them I had them pretty loud too. I tested them on a Youtube video.
[20:06] <Sonic132> xbb: Also, have tested them on Ubuntu's own Sound settings.
[20:06] <ryan> is there a way to rebuild a windows 8 BCD from ubuntu 12?
[20:06] <alankila> itguy614: do you terminate the tls on the load balancer, or what's your solution for 443
[20:06] <ThinkT510> Lorra: well now you know about checkinstall for future use :)
[20:06] <maheanuu> I am having a hell of a time trying to get Ubuntu to work on this laptop that I reloaded with Ubuntu 10.04.4  at present I am running Pulse Audio and wondering if I should eliminate it and switch to Alsa???
[20:06] <xbb> Sonic132, so what's not working?
[20:06] <Sonic132> xbb: The sound. System is totally mute in Ubuntu. But works fine in Windows.
[20:06] <itguy614> alankila: it is terminated with apache,  ipvs is doing the forwarding
[20:07] <miazmaic> is there a way to rebuild a windows 8 BCD from ubuntu 12?
[20:07] <pyboy> Lorra: make sure you put sudo before make and make install
[20:07] <splnet> Sonic132: ok I'll check it out. What nvidia driver version do they have?
[20:07] <missuse> why most freenode channel stop user posting on main ?
[20:07] <alankila> itguy614: oh. I'm not familiar with ipvs, but I guess with a solution like this there shouldn't be much difference between ports 80 and 443
[20:07] <MirkoKa> maheanuu: if I understand the architecture correctly, then Pulse uses Alsa as its default audio-sink anyway (at least on 10.04)
[20:07] <splnet> L3top: ok I'll check it out. What nvidia driver version do they have?
[20:07] <xbb> Sonic132, did you play with sound settings do you have correct output device?
[20:08] <NFisher> MirkoKa, ok, thanks for your help!
[20:08] <Pici> missuse: What?
[20:08] <Sonic132> splnet: I have [version current][recommended] whatever that is. It's under Additional Drivers.
[20:08] <itguy614> alankila: correct, 80 seems fine.  i can see ipvs forwarding the 443 traffic but then nada.
[20:08] <maheanuu> MirkoKa, so I should have alsa installed at present?
[20:08] <Sonic132> xbb: I don't know really. The sound is piped through a sound speaker bar.
[20:08] <L3top> It looks like for precise they have decided 295.33-0ubuntu1~precise~xup1  is the best version as well.
[20:09] <missuse> in freenode chatroom most disallow user chat on public
[20:09] <abyss42> how do i connect to a vpn network in ubuntu?
[20:09] <Sonic132> xbb: omg I just got it.
[20:09] <xbb> Sonic132, what was it?
[20:09] <Pici> missuse: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, if you have a question about freenode policies, #freenode would be the right place to ask.
[20:09] <maheanuu> I am not understanding why, but sometimes it will open and the mike will work but only breifly and when I close skype I cannot use the mike again??
[20:09] <robgraves> pidgin is acting strange for me today
[20:10] <julien__>  baap
[20:10] <L3top> splnet: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntu-x-swat
[20:10] <Sonic132> xbb: For some reason it wants to mute Analog Output by default. When I unmuted it again it works. But it keeps wanting to revert back to Muted.
[20:10] <Captain_Proton> abyss42, what kind of vpn  windows?
[20:10] <MirkoKa> maheanuu: not only installed, but in use.
[20:10] <Sonic132> xbb: Is there an apply button I have to hit to save it that way?
[20:11] <minimec> abyss42: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[20:11] <n2diy> how can I tell what is using my swap memory?
[20:11] <xbb> Sonic132,  Is there an apply button? I am on 12.04 and there is none.
[20:11] <Sonic132> xbb: That's what I thought.
[20:11] <abyss42> abyss42, i have an ip to vpn to and a pcf file, that is all i know
[20:12] <xbb> Sonic132, when you close settings and reopen it's reverting to 'Mute'?
[20:12] <Sonic132> xbb: Ok it works. Apparently the situation is resolved.
[20:12] <itguy614> using ldirectord for load ballancing and connecting to an apache server.  ip on apache server is virtual.  port 80 traffic works fine.  port 443 does not.  i can connect to the actual address with 80 and 443 of the apache server with no problems.
[20:12] <splnet> L3top: thanks I'll see if that helps
[20:12] <xbb> ok, good that's it's working for you
[20:12] <Guest44607> hello
[20:13] <Sonic132> xbb: Well it seemed like it at first but it's alright now. Youtube (and everything else probably) has working sound.
[20:13] <abyss42> minimec, i dont want to setup vpn in my ubuntu...i want to access another computer which i have an ip and a pcf file to connect to
[20:13] <jwrigley> Hey, installed 12.04 and gnome-shell. For some reason autostart programs don't start (ie. gnome-session-properties), any ideas what I might do to fix it. I have been googling to no avail
[20:14] <L3top> splnet: you should do an apt-cache policy nvidia-current after you add the ppa and update to see that it wants to use the ppa as the candidate. I assume it will...
[20:14] <nimbiotics> hmm ... is there a way to use gnome in v12.04?
[20:14] <ThinkT510> !gnome2 | nimbiotics
[20:14] <zoltan__> hello
[20:15] <pyboy> jwrigley: dont know are they checked on startup,check it to make sure
[20:15] <zoltan__> could somebody help me with wifi?
[20:15] <minimec> abyss42: I know... ;) You can establish a connection with the network-manager, but you need the right module. I posted you the hotwo with the list of available modules.
[20:15] <Somelauw>  Hi, I want to remove luakit, but there makefile is broken. Can anyone check if it is safe to remove the following items: http://pastebin.com/MUHmmuE4
[20:15] <MirkoKa> n2diy: it's most probably the process(es) which also also eat your physical RAM
[20:15] <abyss42> minimec, oh thanks..will try that.
[20:15] <splnet> L3top: apt-get install nvidia-current is grabbing from ppa so  looks like it's working. 295 is much newer than 280
[20:15] <n2diy> ! notunity
[20:15] <anathema_> i had some screen resolution issues during boot and poweroff/restart any help?
[20:16] <jwrigley> pyboy: yeah, no they seem fine, checked and all, they just don't start up... :(
[20:16] <L3top> splnet: I thought you were on precise... what version ubuntu are you using?
[20:16] <n2diy> MirkoKa, ok, how do I tell what processes are using them?
[20:16] <splnet> L3top: 11.10
[20:16] <pyboy> did you try sudo service name of service start
[20:17] <alankila> itguy614: more details... how many backend apaches do you have, and do you need session affinity? The simplest imaginable load balancing setup would use DNAT on the load balancer with a --to-destination line that has multiple IP addresses from a range, kernel does load balancing for you (no session affinity, though!)
[20:17] <L3top> hmm... I do not know that this will address your issue splnet. Interesting to find out though.
[20:17] <jwrigley> pyboy: not really they aren't services so much as just start-up programs -- Dropbox, Guake-terminal, etc.
[20:18] <anathema_> i want to ask something about the ati card and boot screen etc anyone to help?
[20:18] <LinuxMonkey> !ask | anathema_
[20:18] <alankila> you could theoretically write a heartbeat script that just does some network transaction like accesses the apache front page once per second from the load balancer to determine if the backends are up, and if not, you would drop it. Will only scale up to 2 backend IPs, I guess, but is dirt simple on the upside.
[20:18] <diverdude> is php 5.4 available in the 12.04 repos?
[20:18] <pyboy> jwrigley: dont know i thought they were services
[20:18] <MirkoKa> n2diy: gnome-system-monitor or the commandline tools "top" or "ps axu", the "Memory" or "RSS" field tells the RAM usage, the Size field tells *roughly* the total memoy consumption.
[20:18] <anathema_> ok sorry, i want to ask if it is nessesary to download the ati driver, in the additional drivers there is no option for download
[20:19] <anathema_> because i have an ugly boot/shutdown splash screen etc
[20:19] <zoltan__> does anyone have problems with WLAN?
[20:19] <ThinkT510> diverdude: 5.3 is
[20:19] <L3top> anathema lspci | grep VGA
[20:20] <diverdude> ThinkT510: why not 5.4
[20:20] <jwrigley> pyboy: well, thanks anyway :)
[20:20] <ThinkT510> diverdude: no idea, when was 5.4 released?
[20:20] <L3top> The short answer is, if you have desktop, nothing further is necessary, though you might have better performance overall with it anathema_... I will tell you in a moment whether or not you will benefit.
[20:20] <pyboy> jwrigley: no problem sorry i could not help
[20:20] <diverdude> ThinkT510: 2 months ago
[20:20] <NoobTux> Unable to create directory /var/www/wordpress/wp-content/0777/2012/04. Is its parent directory writable by the server? <---- how can i upload a jpg file for my background? hmmmm
[20:20] <Menno> zoltan: not in 12.04
[20:20] <lousygarua> installed apache2, how do I NOT auto start it on boot? sudo update-rc.d apache2 disable didn't work and 'remove' gave an error message about the script existing in /etc/init.d/ and i don't want to delete cool stuff
[20:21] <anathema_> L3top, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI R430 [Radeon X800 XL] (PCIe)
[20:21] <ThinkT510> diverdude: maybe 12.04 was in freeze at the time
[20:21] <zoltan__> wifi ages to connect in 12.04
[20:21] <xv_image_viewer> MirkoKa, here is that paste-bin giving the what I did, and the compile problems: http://pastebin.com/in0SKAQx   It seems that the problem is Ubunut 11 does not come with /usr/lib/libjasper.a -- for manipulationg JPEG2000 images, howevere apt-cache search, and apt-get install says that all of libjasper for JPEG 2000 is installed....  Libjasper for java looks unrelated, but possibly colliding.
[20:22] <diverdude> thinced: that really sux
[20:22] <diverdude> ThinkT510: ^
[20:22] <n2diy> MirkoKa, ok, top doesn't seem to differentiate between ram and swap?
[20:22] <L3top> anathema_: you cannot use the proprietary fglrx driver. Your chipset is not supported.
[20:23] <orated> Hello! Is it advisable to use xfs filesystem for / partition (with separate /home on ext4)?
[20:23] <anathema_> L3top, thanks. is there any way to fix the ugly bootscreen and shutdown?
[20:23] <ThinkT510> orated: if you want to
[20:23] <pyboy> jwrigley: did you try to unistall gnome shells try to install gnome-panel does the same thing as gnome shells
[20:24] <orated> ThinkT510: I read it boosts the performance of the system. Could you explain in short what all changes in brings?
[20:24] <minimec> lousygarua: there is a tool called rcconf. You should be able disable apache2 on boot with that.
[20:24] <d4vid>  ////////
[20:24] <MirkoKa> xv_image_viewer: I won't be of much help with this, but do a "locate libjasper" and see if the ibjasper.a is anywhere else. if not, you could try to compile libjasper yourself
[20:24] <alankila> orated: I happen to have xfs as both / and /home. I do not see any issues
[20:24] <L3top> I would attack it from plymouth side,  and update the initrd, but perhaps going at it from grub is the correct solution. The short answer is, I don't know for sure, but I can give you some things to try, unless someone speaks up for sure with a solution anathema_.
[20:25] <ThinkT510> orated: i'm not that knowlegable but i'd assume the boost would be almost imperceptable, i just know you can use it
[20:25] <orated> alankila: And what difference you noticed after switching to xfs?
[20:25] <alankila> orated: got more free space :-p
[20:26] <orated> alankila: in terms of performance ..
[20:26] <anathema_> L3top, thanks i think that it must be a grub/plymouth issue because I can't see the progress bar etc
[20:26] <alankila> I can't really tell what filesystem my files are on.
[20:26] <L3top> orated: xfs is best for large streaming files... an ideal scenario would be a streaming media server or NAS.
[20:26] <minimec> lousygarua: Nope. rcconf is not working with upstart. Forget what i said.. initctl should do.
[20:27] <L3top> orated: You will NOT see a performance gain using it for your OS.
[20:27] <MirkoKa> n2diy: top (like the others) differentiate between Virtual Memory (everything, RAM, Swap, Shared), RSS (or RES, the actual RAM usage without Swap) and Shared (or SHR, the amount of shared memory).
[20:27] <alankila> orated: well, I run this thing on top of SSD -- in fact I have set up flashcache to do a kind of hybrid harddisk in software
[20:27] <nimbiotics> !notunity
[20:27] <alankila> my / is entirely on SSD, my /home is cached in writeback mode by about 100 GB of flash
[20:27] <ThinkT510> these factoids need updating
[20:28] <orated> Okay, thanks
[20:28] <alankila> flashcache reports read hit percent in 53 % range, and write hit percent in 35 % range, which indicates the transactions that occur entirely in flash.
[20:28] <jrib> ThinkT510: go for it :)
[20:28] <alankila> the big win is with writing though, because in writeback mode your disks appear to have flash's performance characteristics
[20:29] <n2diy> MirkoKa, ok, top isn't displaying rss, so I need to go config. that, thanks.
[20:29] <anathema_> L3top, is there any tool to config plymouth or grub settings?
[20:30] <MirkoKa> n2diy: n2diy top does display RSS, it just calls it RES
[20:31] <MirkoKa> n2diy: RSS = Resident Set Size, see RES-idend ;)
[20:31] <n2diy> MirkoKa, ok, I see it now.
[20:31] <hannibal_> hello at all. does anyone have a lenovo x200t with touchscreen?
[20:31] <hannibal_> it doesnt work properly at my computer :(
[20:33] <sleepycat> hannibal_: I don't but whats your question?
[20:34] <cwill747> hannibal_: did you check out thinkwiki?
[20:35] <L3top> anathema_: I would: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth; sudo update-initramfs -u
[20:35] <lousygarua> minimec: initctl seem to be controlling the services to run/stop/whatever, didn't see smt related to bootup
[20:35] <lousygarua> though i might be wrong
[20:36] <L3top> reboot and see where you are at anathema_... in the meantime I will look up grub stuff... I am honestly not familiar with it at all, have just seen edits here and there
[20:36] <pyboy> bye po
[20:36] <pyboy> bye
[20:36] <anathema_> L3top, ok thanks the first commands what are about? reconfigure plymouth?
[20:37] <anathema_> L3top, it says: There is only one alternative in link group default.plymouth: /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth
[20:37] <anathema_> Nothing to configure.
[20:37] <L3top> anathema_: reconfigure the default plymouth theme and update initramfs
[20:37] <koffel> hey all
[20:37] <L3top> anathema_: not unexpected, but not harmful
[20:38] <L3top> lol... hey koffel
[20:38] <anathema_> L3top, ok will try the reboot
[20:38] <koffel> i set up dhcp server on ubuntu 12
[20:38] <koffel> how can i get clients have internet access
[20:38] <koffel> hey l3
[20:39] <L3top> I assume this is not linuxmce related?
[20:39] <koffel> correct
[20:39] <minimec> lousygarua: I never used that tool. I read something about initctl replacing rcconf. Do you have a apache2.conf or so in /etc/init?
[20:39] <L3top> server is up and running ?
[20:39] <koffel> i am not using lmce
[20:39] <koffel> l3 top yes
[20:39] <v0lksman_> anyone else have problems with rpaf0.6 in 12.04?  doesn't seem to work at all
[20:40] <koffel> dhcp is working and all
[20:40] <L3top> just not feeding internet?
[20:40] <koffel> just can't get internet access to cliends
[20:40] <koffel> correct
[20:40] <lousygarua> minimec: there's an /etc/init.d/apache2, i think i need to sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove as I read on the update-rc.d manpage
[20:41] <lousygarua> minimec: i'll restart now :) so brb. thanks for the help now and before
[20:41] <krababbel> koffel: you mean your pcs can't get to the internet?
[20:42] <koffel> krababble yes
[20:43] <krababbel> koffel: did you try static ip configuration? can they ping something?
[20:43] <koffel> yes
[20:43] <koffel> i think i missing iptables
[20:44] <jwrigley> pyboy: no, I haven't tried that, thanks! I will give that a go :)
[20:44] <krababbel> what is the dhcp, a linux box?
[20:44] <L3top> dns not forwarding perhaps?
[20:44] <koffel> seems like it
[20:44] <L3top> do the clients get a dns?
[20:44] <krababbel> koffel: can they ping 8.8.8.8?
[20:44] <pyboy> do  any of you know the commmand to unmute the volune
[20:45] <StuckMojo> so, i've got a very odd problem. after doing an aptitude update, which updated thunderbird, any time i click a url in a plain text message it tries to go to: file:///var/lib/mediatomb/mediatomb.html
[20:45] <Standarshy> I'm having trouble with my it's an intel 4965abgn wireless card.  It works fine in windows.   It works super slowly to the point where it is nearly unuseable.
[20:45] <lousygarua> minimec: YAY unable to connect. all is good ;)
[20:45]  * L3top not awesome at dhcp
[20:45] <StuckMojo> i purged mediatomb and still get the same behavior
[20:45] <ThinkT510> pyboy: use alsamixer, if there is MM press m to unmute
[20:45] <StuckMojo> i suspected proxy settings or something, but i can't seem to find anything relevant
[20:46] <minimec> lousygarua: cool. I have to write that down myself ;)
[20:46] <koffel> 0000000000000000000000
[20:46] <avdi> Stupid question: how do I tell dpkg/apt to replace my.cnf with the stock packaged config file?
[20:46] <avdi> Iused to know this
[20:47] <L3top> might get a better quicker answer in #httpd koffel
[20:47] <lousygarua> avdi: something with dpkg-reconfigure mysql or something similar? not sure
[20:47] <koffel> l3 top yeah it has dns
[20:49] <emanuele_> hello
[20:50] <pyboy> hi emanuele_
[20:50] <emanuele_> I have a laptop but I don't know how to change its brightness. I don't have any "screen" voice in my system settings
[20:50] <pepee> hi. there is a bug in vainfo
[20:50] <emanuele_> thanks for any help
[20:51] <pgib> Just installed 12.04.  I appreciate all the work put into it, but is there a way to downgrade?  This launcher is absolutely horrible, especially on multi-monitor setups.  I like the hud, but the launcher gets in the way.  And the unified menus sucks for anyone who like focus on mouse over.  Thanks!
[20:51] <pepee> emanuele_, xbacklight
[20:52] <pepee> emanuele_, or xgamma
[20:52] <danileigh79> Is anybody else getting an error trying to update Chrome?
[20:52] <waxstone> hi all, any issues with ubuntu with UEFI BIOS mobos?
[20:52] <pepee> pgib, you can install gnome3 or some other window manager
[20:52] <koffel> just can't get internet access to clients they have dns and can ping off the client
[20:53] <pyboy> emanuele_: go to system settings and go to the setting screen and there should be an option that you are looking for
[20:53] <pepee> danileigh79, what error?
[20:54] <pepee> koffel, do they have an IP? checked the interfaces? use ifconfig
[20:54] <danileigh79> pepee: nm, it's working now, was telling me unable to locate package, but I was trying to update from update-manager
[20:56] <pgib> pepee, I think the multi-monitor quirks could be alleviated if there was a way to move the launcher to the bottom of the screen.  It just forces me to wait an extra 2 seconds every time I move my mouse past the middle of the screen. Yeah, I guess I'll have to revert back to Gnome3 - I was just excited about the HUD. but on second thought, the HUD cause error reports fairly frequently anyways.
[20:56] <LinuxMonkey> !notunity | pgib
[20:56] <LinuxMonkey> lol
[20:57] <LinuxMonkey> why its saying 11.10...that needs to be updated :(
[20:58] <pgib> LinuxMonkey, yes, I already have GnomeShell installed from before the upgrade.  I was just hoping Unity has gotten better, and besides the HUD, I feel it has gotten worse.  If only there was some customization - it seems like each version becomes less and less flexible (In the sake of simplicity?)
[20:58] <LinuxMonkey> pgib,  turn off the following and you will be set
[20:58] <technoviking> anyway to show calendar events in Unity panel calendar?
[20:58] <LinuxMonkey> pgib, under Display turn off sticky edge
[20:59] <pgib> lol. what is that doing in display?
[20:59] <Guest8748> 12.04 is not booting
[21:00] <lalala> hello, i have strange slow reads on my ubuntu samba server to my win 7 machine. writes are 90MB/S reads are only 38-40 MB/s. the hard drives dont seem to be the bottleneck, neither the network (tried with iperf)
[21:00] <pyboy> Guest8748: what is it saying when you try to boot
[21:00] <L3top> koffel can you pastebin your /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[21:00] <LinuxMonkey> and there is another one, im trying to find it again that will just put launcher on screen 1
[21:00] <pgib> LinuxMonkey,  thanks I figured it be in Mouse, or in Appearance->Behavior next to "Auto hide launcher"  anyways - cool this will be helpful, and I see launcher location too (Which isn't in Appearance for some reason).
[21:00] <koffel> l3 it uses isc-dhcp
[21:00] <LinuxMonkey> yeah thats the one lol
[21:00] <Guest8748> nothing just blank screen
[21:01] <pepee> lalala, IIRC reads are always faster than writes. not sure anyway...
[21:01] <pgib> This is a surprising default option.  I feel nauseous every single time the side of the screen grabs my mouse. and then if finally rockets off once it breaks the threshold :-/  I guess I can bitch at launchpad or gnome guys once I figure out who's fault it is :)
[21:01] <L3top> well then I am extra useless koffel... sorry.
[21:02] <lalala> pepee the writes are faster
[21:02] <lalala> in my case...
[21:03] <mrsuchyPL> hi everyone
[21:03] <pepee> lalala, ahh k, sorry
[21:03] <lalala> nvm
[21:03] <koffel> l3top i need to find iptables
[21:03] <pgib> LinuxMonkey, Boo.. Launcher placement doesn't let me move the launcher to the bottom of the screen -  it just lets me choose which displays feature the launcher.  Unfortunately, with Nvidia, there is technically just one huge screen - so the option is moot :-/
[21:03] <mrsuchyPL> is here someone who can help me with backup in ubuntu 10.04 ??
[21:04] <pepee> koffel, sudo iptables -L ?
[21:04] <LinuxMonkey> pgib, yeah im in the same predicament. but its not too bad when its on the far  left of both my screens
[21:04] <pepee> mrsuchyPL, just ask
[21:05] <mrsuchyPL> I want install Ubuntu 12.04 but first I 'd like to backup my partition with linux and the second I mean /home. How can I do it easly ?
[21:05] <pyboy> try downloading the iso again  and burn the shite to a cd and put the cd into the cd tray  and continue from there
[21:05] <pgib> yeah, but would rather not move the mouse nearly 4000 pixels to the left when trying to use the launcher.  It also shows apps from ALL desktops, would be nicer if it only shows apps open on the current desktop.  Maybe time to revisit KDE - they at least let me create panels and drag them where ever I please
[21:06] <koffel> think my tables are wrong
[21:06] <pepee> mrsuchyPL, do you have /home in a separate partition?
[21:06] <mrsuchyPL> @pepee Yes
[21:07] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks. Now that I've upgraded to 12.04, pressing "print screen" no longer offers me a dialog box but rather just saves the screenshot directly without asking me about it. Is there any way to bring the dialog box back?
[21:08] <pepee> mrsuchyPL, using cp? :P
[21:08] <koffel> http://pastebin.com/8pLw5c6K <<-- my iptables
[21:09] <mrsuchyPL> but I cant cp some file even in root
[21:09] <pyboy> Yerushalmi: is there a setting for the take a screenshot, you might want to look
[21:09] <pepee> mrsuchyPL, http://tronprog.blogspot.com/2007/05/clone-partition-with-cp.html
[21:09] <mrsuchyPL> how can I run command line before starting Ubuntu and then copy files ??
[21:09] <pepee> mrsuchyPL, from a livecd
[21:09] <alankila> koffel: these rules do nothing. Every chain has only ACCEPT rules
[21:09] <pyboy> Yerushalmi: i will look for you
[21:09] <mrsuchyPL> ok I check this link, thx
[21:10] <mrsuchyPL> lol
[21:10] <mrsuchyPL> of course
[21:10] <alankila> koffel: unless you wanted to use iptables packet counters for accounting, I don't see the point
[21:10] <mrsuchyPL> thanks again
[21:10] <pepee> mrsuchyPL, read more before doing an upgrade
[21:10] <Yerushalmi> pyboy: I haven't seen one in the Screenshot program.
[21:10] <mrsuchyPL> pepee: what you mean ?
[21:10] <pepee> mrsuchyPL,  https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=10.04+to+12.04
[21:10] <koffel> alankila dont i have to forward frometh1 to eth0 to get internet on clients
[21:10] <pepee> mrsuchyPL,  to be aware of problems, etc
[21:11] <pooltable> help firefox it not set up right i do not see the x or re size box how do i fit it?
[21:11] <pyboy> Yerushalmi: i looked there is no shite there for what you are trying to do
[21:11] <mrsuchyPL> pepee what should I read first ? this channel :) or waht ?
[21:11] <Yerushalmi> pyboy: Oh, apparently this is a problem unique to gnome-shell.
[21:12] <alankila> koffel: no, these rules concern filtering, not routing or anything else
[21:12] <koffel> what do i need to do for sharing
[21:12] <koffel> or routing
[21:13] <pepee> mrsuchyPL, some blogs, etc. the idea is to know what other people has done and what results they got
[21:13] <crash> hi @ all
[21:13] <Guest3399> habe ein problem
[21:13] <pepee> koffel, route
[21:13] <pepee> !de | Guest3399
[21:14] <pyboy> Yerushalmi: try gnome-panel that is the same as gnome-shell but it might work to install type sudo apt-get install gnome-panel  unistall gnome shells
[21:14] <pooltable> also when i click on the show desk top it does not work
[21:14] <koffel> pepee how do i route ?
[21:14] <mrsuchyPL> I see but it's possible that I don't get the same problems bcs I have anaother hardware etc.
[21:14] <mrsuchyPL> but hey, I check on web
[21:14] <mrsuchyPL> thanks one again
[21:14] <pepee> koffel, check the route command
[21:14] <pepee> mrsuchyPL, you are welcome
[21:15] <Yerushalmi> pyboy: What is the difference between them?
[21:15] <koffel> man tring to get answers like pulling teeth
[21:15] <koffel> ? route
[21:15] <L3top> man route
[21:15] <pepee> pooltable, you don't see the x in the corner? check the window manager config
[21:15] <pyboy> Yerushalmi: no difference just try it ok
[21:16] <pooltable> pepee how do i do that ?
[21:16] <pepee> koffel, in the terminal run: route  . also: man route
[21:16] <pepee> pooltable, system settings? don't know what wm are you using
[21:16] <Yerushalmi> pyboy: Okay
[21:16] <BFranks> Been running Ubuntu 11 on an ESX server for a bit, saw the 12.04 update and since the server's not in use yet.. why not? .. Now I'm stuck in the shell, can't load xwindows.. I get: unable to open display ''   and then when I try to do a unity --reset    I get : no DISPLAY variable, setting it to :0   ?
[21:17] <koffel> pepee let me explain what i am tring to do
[21:17] <TheBuntu> How can i make gnome-mplayer use my multimedia keys.. play button back and farward buttons?
[21:17] <pepee> BFranks, try renaming the xorg.conf file
[21:17] <BFranks> (last error is NameError: global name 'GError' is not defined
[21:17] <pooltable> pepee useing xfce on 12.04
[21:17] <koffel> i tring to set up dhcp with internet share
[21:17] <pepee> koffel, dhcp server?
[21:18] <koffel> yes
[21:18] <pepee> koffel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[21:18] <Monotoko> hey guys.. just let me start by saying I like Unity, I will be using it as primary and I don't want to start a flame war... I just noticed that wine doesn't integrate all that well and wanted xfce for my wine applications, is there any repercussions from installing xfce as well? Will it break Unity? (Ubuntu 12.04)
[21:18] <pyboy> Yerushalmi: gnome shells  installs to much shite on your system use gnome-panel
[21:18] <BFranks> pepee: That's the odd part.. there isn't a config in /etc/X11/ .. there's an xorg.conf.failsafe ... been tempted to try renaming/copying it ;)
[21:19] <koffel> what the hell you all said nothing to do with iptable
[21:19] <koffel> s
[21:19] <pepee> Monotoko, I don't think so, you'll have no problems
[21:19] <Standarshy> Monotoko, I've installed cinnamon alongside gnome
[21:19] <Fyodorovna> Monotoko, you can run both you wil have some extra apps from each in bothe desktops is all.
[21:19] <Standarshy> and haven't had problems
[21:19] <koffel> damn link says iptables
[21:19] <pepee> koffel, I didn't say that
[21:19] <Monotoko> excellent, thank you guys! So the package is xubuntu-desktop?
[21:20] <pyboy> Monotoko: yes
[21:20] <Fyodorovna> Monotoko, yeah. :)
[21:20] <koffel> i thinking linux is freaking sucking
[21:20] <Monotoko> cheers ^_^
[21:20] <koffel> been 10 days tring to get this dhcp server working and everyone giving me false answers
[21:20] <pepee> BFranks, try it then
[21:20] <BFranks> pepee: It's werking..
[21:20] <Pickles> hello
[21:20] <pooltable> pepee how do i get to the system setting the chatzilla is lock and i can not move it?
[21:21] <BFranks> Confidence is most often deadly.. in this case.. Payday.. ;)
[21:21] <TheBuntu> Anyone know how i can make gnome-mplayer use my multimedia keys.. the play forward and back buttons??
[21:21] <conner_bw> does anyone know if jedit (or netbeans) will support this new appmenu thing in Ubuntu 12.04? That is, all menus go to the top bar (kind of like on OSX?) Doesn't seem to be working right now. Am I doing it wrong?
[21:21] <pepee> pooltable, hmm, not sure about xfce. try right-clicking in the desktop
[21:22] <Pickles> guys, i downloaded the desktop iso for 12.04 but i can't seem to run the windows installer
[21:22] <pooltable> pepee well not sure either when i click on the desk top it does not work
[21:22] <theadmin> Pickles: Run it as admin
[21:22] <Pickles> live cd works, and installer from there also
[21:23] <Fyodorovna> Pickles, can you be specific in not working?
[21:23] <pooltable> pepee if there is a way to re set up xfce i will do will do that
[21:23] <theadmin> pooltable: "System Settings" in Xfce is under Applications Menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager
[21:23] <fusk> hello. Is it a known problem that 11.10 or 12.04 freezes after sleep on notebooks ?
[21:23] <Pickles> admin, tried that, didn't work
[21:23] <BFranks> Pepee: Wow.. never knew xwin could run so slow.. This is spooky slow.. ;)
[21:23] <MirkoKa> TheBuntu: on 10.04 they worked OOTB.  Edit ->  Preferences -> Interface -> Respond to Keyboard Media Keys
[21:24] <Buduk> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/ac.1.html << This command is reporting incorrectly any advice ?
[21:24] <pepee> pooltable, there should be an applications or appearance menu somewhere
[21:24] <pooltable> theadmin i know but i can not move chatzilla or click on the show the desk top
[21:24] <pyboy> fusk: are useing wubi
[21:24] <Pickles> fyodor, installer won't startup, i have win 7, doesn't even show up in process manager
[21:24] <souterrain> Using precise amd64 as guest under vmware player winxp32. When host is locked, or suspended, etc., once unlocked/resumed, guest display is unusable, either noise pattern or distorted/frozen.  3D acceleration is enabled.  Problem goes away when 3D disabled.  Thoughts?
[21:25] <pepee> pooltable, change the desktop theme...
[21:25] <pyboy> fusk: are you using wubi
[21:25] <emanuele_> I tried to change brightness but it doesn't get saved: when I get a screensaver the brigthness is set to its maximum value
[21:25] <TheBuntu> MirkoKa: That box is already checked
[21:25] <skydrome> hi im trying to find documentation on the ubuntu 12.04 server installation where it presents the list of kernels available. Mainly the descriptions of each one
[21:26] <LinuxMonkey> pooltable, for xfce based Ubuntu support please join #xubuntu
[21:26] <fusk> pyboy, i don't know what wubi is, but does not seem to be installed, at least through software center.
[21:26] <pyboy> emanuele_: try to  restart the computer after you change the setting
[21:26] <ThinkT510> LinuxMonkey: its supported here too
[21:26] <pepee> pickels, ubuntu cd is 64 or 32 bits? what about windows?
[21:26] <pepee> Pickles, ^
[21:27] <Psi-Jack> Okay. Anyone know how to install Sun/Oracle Java 6 or 7 (preferably 6), in Ubuntu 12.04 properly and sanely?
[21:27] <pyboy> fusk: sorry mate cant help you
[21:27] <guest-942MJ8> if i change the mac address for eth0, is my mac address spoofed when i get on wifi
[21:27] <pepee> !kernel
[21:27] <Pickles> iso is 64 windows 7 home premium also 64
[21:27] <emanuele_> pyboy, i tried
[21:27] <pickels> There can only be one!
[21:27] <pooltable> theadmin settings editor"?
[21:27] <theadmin> pooltable: No, Settings Manager
[21:27] <pyboy> emanuele_: weird
[21:28] <Pickles> even the downloadable windows installer does the same
[21:28] <pepee> Pickles, wha error are you gettin?
[21:28] <MirkoKa> TheBuntu: In System -> Preferenecs -> Keyboard Shortcuts, are the Audio keys set to various XF86* keys?
[21:29] <emanuele_> pyboy, it is :(
[21:29] <Pickles> no error, just nothing
[21:29] <pooltable> how do i get there with the cli?
[21:29] <normatif> conner_bw: for netbeans, check Ayatana plugin
[21:30] <fusk> pyboy,  no problem, should i install wubi ?
[21:30] <pyboy> fusk: no
[21:30] <fusk> oki
[21:30] <JessicaW> anyone know how to kill a failed installation?
[21:30] <JessicaW> kill -9 isn't working
[21:30] <Psi-Jack> JessicaW: Then it's dead. Reboot.
[21:30] <pyboy> emanuele_: explain your problem again plz
[21:31] <JessicaW> Psi-Jack: wow... srsly?
[21:31] <Psi-Jack> JessicaW: Please use the English langauge when talking to me. 'u', 'pls', 'thx', for example, are properly spelled 'you', 'please', and 'thanks'.
[21:31] <pepee> Pickles, cd is desktop or alternate?
[21:31] <MirkoKa> Psi-Jack: Sun (Oracle) Java has been removed from Ubuntu an no official support is given anymore. You need to install it from the Sun/Oracle supplied .tgz. You probably need to uninstal the OpenJDK stuff, but I'm not sure, there are instructions on the web which should also apply to 12.04
[21:31] <Pickles> desktop
[21:31] <Monotoko> JessicaW, kill -9 is the lowest kill you can use, it's probably zombied
[21:31] <Psi-Jack> MirkoKa: I did a server install, so there's no OpenJDK by default, thankfully.
[21:32] <JessicaW> Psi-Jack: so you're saying, if kill -9 doesn't work my only option is to reboot?
[21:32] <Monotoko> in which case, you will need to reboot
[21:32] <conner_bw> normatif, thanks
[21:32] <Psi-Jack> JessicaW: Generally speaking, yes.
[21:32] <pyboy> Psi-Jack: your to funny
[21:32] <JessicaW> Psi-Jack: what if rebooting is not an option at this time... is there any other way? I've got 18 tb of data being parsed right now.
[21:32] <pooltable> theadmin is umder settings?:
[21:32] <galerie> I have radeon HD 550v or HD 4650 VGA and tried to install open source driver and proprietary on precise pangolin but still no success anyone know how to do it?
[21:32] <fusk> pyboy, Ah now i know, no i used usb, just to clarify. But thanks anyway.
[21:33] <TheBuntu> MirkoKa: let me check.. i'm useing gnome-mplayer in kde.. so i'll check keyboard in there
[21:33] <Psi-Jack> JessicaW: Wait, and then reboot?
[21:33] <emanuele_> pyboy, I have a laptop.  I change the brigthness using system-settings when a screensaver happens the brigthness comes back to its max value
[21:33] <pyboy> fusk: no problem mate
[21:33] <JessicaW> Monotoko: it's not showing as a zombied process.
[21:33] <pepee> JessicaW, did the upgrade install the packages, or just downloaded?
[21:33] <emanuele_> pyboy, ubuntu 11.10
[21:33] <pepee> JessicaW, used sudo?
[21:33] <JessicaW> Psi-Jack: I'll have to wait until friday. Will this negatively impact the machine in any way? 10.04 server.
[21:33] <pepee> JessicaW, used "sudo kill"?
[21:34] <L3top> galerie: lspci | grep VGA   please
[21:34] <Monotoko> JessicaW, which process is it?
[21:34] <Psi-Jack> JessicaW: Of course it /could/ impact it. It really depends though on what the actuall process it.
[21:34] <skydrome> what is the difference between kernels generic and virtual in the 12.04 installer?
[21:34] <Psi-Jack> is*
[21:34] <JessicaW> pepee: It looks like the user tried to kill it in mid install.
[21:34] <pepee> galerie, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide
[21:34] <JessicaW> Psi-Jack: root     29112  0.0  0.0  89644 76384 ?        Ds   13:52   0:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 23 --unpack --auto-deconfigure /var/cache/apt/archives/tree_1.5.3-1_amd64.deb
[21:35] <galerie> l3top this the result 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650]
[21:35] <pyboy> emanuele_: why  the fuck is the shite at max value you must have put it on max
[21:35] <JessicaW> sorry, I know that's long but too short for pastebin
[21:35] <MirkoKa> JessicaW: side point: kill -9 should *ONLY* be used as a last resort! *NEVER* use it as the first attempt.
[21:35] <ikonia> pyboy: that languager is unacceptable. Stop now.
[21:35] <Pickles> i tried website iso, torrent iso and wubi.exe windows installer, the 2.78 MB one
[21:35] <ikonia> language
[21:35] <ThinkT510> !language | pyboy
[21:35] <JessicaW> MirkoKa: of course.
[21:35] <pyboy> ok
[21:35] <pyboy> sorry
[21:36] <JessicaW> I tried removing the lock first and running apt-get install -f
[21:36] <Psi-Jack> JessicaW: Yeah, that looks to be in an uninteruptable sleep. So it's pretty much doing nothing.
[21:36] <galerie> @pepe : tried that before but always hanging when tried to used unity 3D
[21:36] <emanuele_> pyboy, no .. I put it to lower value
[21:36] <normatif> JessicaW: once the downloads finish, in-place release upgrade should not be interrupted
[21:37] <JessicaW> Psi-Jack: well... It was worth a shot.
[21:37] <pyboy> emanuele_: right ok it cant just change at random
[21:37] <JessicaW> normatif: I didn't interrupt the install. one of my users with sudo access did. I have since removed it.
[21:37] <pepee> JessicaW, sudo kill -9 29112  ?
[21:37] <JessicaW> pepee: tried that didn't work.
[21:37] <pepee> JessicaW, btw you sure it got stuck?
[21:38] <Psi-Jack> pepee: Yeah, she's sure. It's in an uninteruptable sleep status.
[21:38] <Psi-Jack> I already examined the ps output.
[21:38] <pepee> :/
[21:38] <L3top> galerie: honestly all that should be required for the proprietary driver is to apt-get install fglrx       you might add libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri fglrx-modaliases... but really just adding the fglrx should be all that is needed for the proprietary. Trying to revert back to the native requires some trickery... but give that a try.
[21:38] <mykrob> afternoon. How can I tell if I am running the latest AMD driver in Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:38] <Monotoko> ... coma is as good as zombie
[21:38] <Pickles> help? :(
[21:38] <normatif> JessicaW: I did not type that to blame you, just informing you of the status that system is in
[21:38] <Psi-Jack> Monotoko: Pretty much.
[21:38] <Sh4DoxXx> i need the german irc for ubuntu pls ?
[21:38] <ikonia> Sh4DoxXx: #ubuntu-de
[21:38] <Sh4DoxXx> thx
[21:38] <MirkoKa> JessicaW: you might try a "kill -HUP <pid>" if that fails too, then you either have to wait (for a long time probably), or wait till you can reboot
[21:38] <Monotoko> Sh4DoxXx, #ubuntu-de
[21:38] <Monotoko> oops
[21:39] <pepee> Pickles, do you have grub2?
[21:39] <M4d3L1> hi. what is the best way to copie everything starting from root / on a ftp in command line?
[21:39] <emanuele_> pyboy, it changes when I got a screensaver
[21:39] <Pickles> pepee why would i need grub if im running from inside windows?
[21:40] <JessicaW> MirkoKa: that worked.
[21:40] <ztag100> Anyone know good video editing software?
[21:40] <pyboy> help emanuele_  someone
[21:40] <ztag100> I don't really like kdenlive
[21:40] <galerie> L3top now I am on a fresh install precise. but still cant use unity3D, if I check in system setting details it shows unknown for graphic
[21:40] <Psi-Jack> JessicaW: Really? HUP worked? Very odd.
[21:40] <JessicaW> now I received a message to manually run sudo dpkg --configure -a. ran it. it's working. thanks.
[21:40] <JessicaW> Psi-Jack: I'm not sure why.
[21:41] <Psi-Jack> I guess dpkg interupts SIGKILL.
[21:41] <gr00ve> does anyone know where i can find a 32bit libpam for 12.04 amd64?  I have vpn software that requires it and cannot locate the package
[21:41] <L3top> one second...
[21:41] <JessicaW> Psi-Jack: it just completed the interrupted installation with apt-get install -f
[21:41] <Guest58347> Hello everybody
[21:41] <pepee> Pickles, tried this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows#The_CD_image_approach
[21:42] <galerie> L3top:ok i'll wait ;-)
[21:42] <MirkoKa> Psi-Jack: no, SIGKILL cannot be ignored. not sure why HUP is distributed, but it worked for me several times when INT and stuff didn't
[21:42] <JessicaW> Psi-Jack: or not... it's giving errors. Lovely. dpkg: warning: files list file for package `tree' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[21:42] <leighman> get Cannot access PPA to get PPA information, please check your internet connection. when trying to add a ppa
[21:42] <leighman> is this a known issue atm?
[21:42] <pepee> Pickles, www.us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/  <- the needed files
[21:43] <L3top> galerie: yes, both my radeon and fglrx say the same.
[21:43] <pepee> leighman, check if it exists
[21:43] <leighman> https://launchpad.net/~sparkers/+archive/daily
[21:43] <jamiejackson> I (as my personal login) want to always be able to write to any future subdirectories of /var/www. What's the right way to make this happen? I can change the group, but that doesn't influence new files or subdirectories.
[21:44] <galerie> L3top: any solution for this? its works fine when I'am on oneiric with proprietary driver before
[21:44] <taherAbdo_> ho there
[21:44] <taherAbdo_> hi*
[21:44] <taherAbdo_> i have a problem  in my new ubuntu 12.04
[21:44] <leighman> man just copy pasta'd and it worked
[21:44] <leighman> cheers pepee
[21:44] <pepee> leighman, what ubuntu version? check this http://ppa.launchpad.net/sparkers/daily/ubuntu/dists/
[21:44] <Pickles> doesn't make sense, i installed 10.04 and 11.04 this way without issues
[21:45] <pyboy> taherAbdo_: what is the problem
[21:45] <pepee> leighman, ahh k, good then :P
[21:45] <Pickles> on the same pc
[21:45] <L3top> galerie: I am not aware of one... I will poke around though.
[21:45] <taherAbdo_> the system doesn't make me a permitted user for almost all the programs .... says permission dynied
[21:45] <taherAbdo_> can anyone help?
[21:45] <pepee> Pickles, well, if it's not working, you should find an alternative...
[21:45] <normatif> JessicaW: sorry, I thought it was a release upgrade... that's what people come to ask nowadays mostly
[21:46] <ejv> !sudo | taherAbdo_
[21:46] <Standarshy> I'm having trouble with my it's an intel 4965abgn wireless card.  It works fine in windows.   It works super slowly to the point where it is nearly unuseable.colin, yes.   The strange thing is, the wireless works fast for about 5 seconds after I connect, then really slow.
[21:46] <galerie> L3top: ok and tnx very much for your respond. I will search another option for a while. but I'm no geek. tnx again
[21:46] <pyboy> taherAbdo_: are you  the owner of your main account i am guessing you  are
[21:47] <JessicaW> normatif: it's ok. yeah, this is a production server so... won't be upgrading to precise pangolin....
[21:47] <pooltable> ok got setting mamnger up what do i need to change to fix it ?
[21:47] <taherAbdo_> ubottu : when i use sudo it runs ok , but in the gui doesn't ,
[21:48] <taherAbdo_> the system doesn't make me a permitted user for almost all the programs .... says permission dynied
[21:48] <pepee> gr00ve what's the package name?
[21:49] <pooltable> xcfe help?
[21:49] <minimec> jamiejackson: add yourself to the apache2 group in /etc/group, give the apache2 group erad/write access to /var/www and the files.
[21:50] <normatif> taherAbdo_: which program?
[21:50] <taherAbdo_> please , anyone aswer me
[21:50] <MirkoKa> taherAbdo_: what programs?
[21:50] <pepee> pooltable, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=63147  ?
[21:50] <taherAbdo_> mirkoka: for example pidgin
[21:50] <pepee> !sudo | taherAbdo_
[21:50] <taherAbdo_> and root directory
[21:51] <taherAbdo_> but in terminal i use sudo it goes well
[21:51] <fusk> How long should there go before you ask the same question again ?
[21:51] <pyboy> sorry for my bad words people
[21:51] <pepee> taherAbdo_, you need to run pidgin with sudo?
[21:51] <taherAbdo_> peppe : yes
[21:51] <MirkoKa> taherAbdo_: access to / or /root is not permitted and that's good so, pidgin should work. what is th e precise error message you get from pidgin?
[21:51] <pepee> taherAbdo_, your system is broken...
[21:52] <pepee> taherAbdo_, how did you install pidgin?
[21:52] <warz> hi all. is it possible to make my machine's hostname resolve to 127.0.0.1, using /etc/hosts, instead of the LAN IP? i have the following line in /etc/hosts, "127.0.0.1 my-server.home my-server", but running the command "host my-server" still resolves to the LAN IP
[21:52] <ztag100> anyone?
[21:52] <taherAbdo_> from software center
[21:53] <pyboy> ztag100: what
[21:53] <taherAbdo_> mirkoka : no responce
[21:53] <MirkoKa> warz: in /etc/hosts: "127.0.0.1	localhost your_hostname"
[21:53] <pyboy> ztag100: what is wrong
[21:53] <ztag100> pyboy: anyone know good video editing software?
[21:53] <ztag100> I don't really like kdenlive
[21:53] <fusk> hello. Is it a known problem that 11.10 or 12.04 freezes after sleep on notebooks ?
[21:53] <pyboy> ztag100: try open shot
[21:54] <pepee> taherAbdo_, please paste the error in pastebin
[21:54] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[21:54] <pooltable> pepee ok what is the fastest way to go from window to window when i click on link i do not see chatzilla any more?
[21:54] <ztag100> Alright, I'll try that
[21:54] <Monotoko> fusk, do you have the restricted drivers installed?
[21:54] <pepee> pooltable, alt-tab?
[21:54] <fusk> Monotoko, sec
[21:54] <pyboy> ztag100:got to the software center and type open shot ok
[21:54] <pepee> pooltable, asked in #xubuntu ?
[21:55] <pooltable> pepee: 	[INFO]	There is nothing to tab-complete. Use F6 to cycle through the user list, input box and the chat output.
[21:55] <taherAbdo_> pepee : no respoce pops up for me in the GUI but in the terminal "permission dynied comes up
[21:55] <ztag100> It's a package, just using apt-get
[21:55] <warz> MirkoKa: does not seem to work
[21:55] <ztag100> (not a big fan of software center)
[21:55] <pepee> ztag100, http://alternativeto.net/software/kdenlive/
[21:55] <warz> do i have to reboot, or just log out
[21:55] <pyboy> ztag100:that is not the full name use the software center
[21:55] <FutuRE_alex> 4to za huinu vi zdesb pishite?
[21:56] <pepee> pooltable, ? no alt+tab?
[21:56] <pooltable> pepee i am trying no luck yet
[21:56] <ztag100> But, I already got it
[21:56] <pooltable> [INFO]	There is nothing to tab-complete. Use F6 to cycle through the user list, input box and the chat output.pepee:
[21:56] <pooltable> that what is say when i alt tab
[21:56] <pepee> pooltable, that's from the console, no?
[21:56] <pyboy> ztag100:ok you have open  shot
[21:56] <pooltable> pepee:
[21:57] <taherAbdo_> pepee : no respoce pops up for me in the GUI but in the terminal "permission dynied" comes up
[21:57] <pepee> pooltable, I think you should reconfigure xfce, or be using some other window manager...
[21:57] <MirkoKa> taherAbdo_: I suspect that there are some files in your home who don't belong to you. try running this command (without the quotes of course):      "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER"
[21:57] <pepee> pooltable, try lxde :P
[21:57] <fusk> Monotoko, i don't know, i have jockey-gtk, but don't know if that is what you are referring to.
[21:57] <pooltable> pepee i can not see the console yes i need help on some setting that is mess up i no not see the top of it
[21:58] <pooltable> pepee how do i do that ?
[21:58] <Gosset_Inofensiu> FYI: Gnome-panel / Gnome-classic / Gnome-fallback     RULEZZZZZZZ
[21:58] <DoctorPepper> can anyone help me , i have a wierd issue with the global menu. basically i am running a kde session   , the menus get exported to the menubar panel though  in some gtk  such as gedit the menu gets exported but  also stay visible   on the application window  . for example the problem happens when i use gedit  but not  when i use gimp
[21:58] <MirkoKa> warz: shoudl work ;-) what problem do you face exactly?
[21:58] <pepee> taherAbdo_, in the console: ls -l $(which pidgin)
[21:58] <Monotoko> fusk, if you hit the button in the top right, system settings then "Additional Drivers" it will tell you
[21:59] <Monotoko> it's usually those that cause Ubuntu not to come back up after sleep
[21:59] <pooltable> pepee reconfigure xfce is what i want to do but how?
[21:59] <kasii>  i need ubuntu driver for the touchpad dell vostro 1015
[21:59] <pepee> pooltable, ypu don't see the console? alt+f2 , then type xterm
[21:59] <pepee> kasii, for what? wifi?
[22:00] <kasii> pepee, touchpad
[22:00] <fusk> Monotoko, says there is none in use on this system.
[22:00] <wad> I've copied an image over to a remote machine, that someone else is using right now (from X), with ssh. I'd like to open this jpg up on that machine, so he can see the image. But when I do "mimeopen image.jpg" in my ssh, it complains about the display. Is it possible to do this? Is there some magic?
[22:00] <pooltable> pepee i an bring it up but i can not move it to see what i am typeing at all
[22:00] <pepee> kasii, touchpad should be working
[22:00] <nowimproved1> just upgraded to the latest version of ubuntu, my resolution only goes to 800x600, i dont thnk my nviida driver is working
[22:01] <taherAbdo_> pepee:-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1036608 Apr  7 22:29 /usr/bin/pidgin
[22:01] <kasii> pepee, its working but missing some functionality
[22:02] <stowoda> hi, I have erased my / partition and only home is left..  I have no permissions to some files in my ubuntu home directory when using the live cd. is there a way to get access to these files?
[22:02] <crash82> stowoda,  sudo su -
[22:03] <taherAbdo_> pepee:-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1036608 Apr  7 22:29 /usr/bin/pidgin
[22:03] <pepee> crash82, stowoda, use sudo -i
[22:03] <pepee> taherAbdo_, yes, I read
[22:03] <stowoda> crash82,  hmm, will it ask me for my former password?
[22:03] <pepee> taherAbdo_, press alt+f2 , then type pidgin
[22:03] <taherAbdo_> pepee: i afraid my system is broken
[22:03] <shallwe> hi guys
[22:04] <kasii> pepee, what about ,e
[22:04] <stowoda> ok will try that. thx so far
[22:04] <kasii> pepee, what about me
[22:04] <pyboy> taherAbdo_: backup and do a reinstall
[22:04] <shallwe> someone has problem in connect empathy in windows live account?
[22:04] <MirkoKa> taherAbdo_: the line you posted is fully normal and correct! have you tried the command I gave you?
[22:04] <taherAbdo_> peppe: Exiting because another libpurple client is already running.
[22:05] <Scunizi> .
[22:05] <kasii> pepee, what about me
[22:05] <pepee> pooltable, ctrl+alt+f2, there you have a console. try reconfiguring xfce from there. use dpkg --reconfigure -a
[22:05] <wassy121> So, I tried upgrading to ubuntu 12, and now nothing works.  Absolutely nothing.  nm-applet won't load, can't get it online, had to boot into an old kernel because of missing modules.dep
[22:05]  * Scunizi Wow.. 1800+ in the channel.. Must be a new release ;)
[22:05] <pepee> kasii, my advice is not to mess with that...
[22:05] <wassy121> it's messy.  Can someone help me get this under control?
[22:06] <L3top> galerie: what does /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p          result in?    (if you have pastebinit installed please add | pastebinit to the end)
[22:06] <pepee> taherAbdo_, what other programs show that error ? all of them?
[22:06] <pepee> taherAbdo_, did you run startx as root?
[22:06] <taherAbdo_> don't know
[22:06] <taherAbdo_> pepee:don't know
[22:07] <pepee> wassy121, reconfigure packages with dpkg
[22:07] <pepee> wassy121, check if apt-get or dpkg are broken
[22:07] <pepee> taherAbdo_, try some random program...
[22:08] <taherAbdo_> pepee: ok
[22:08] <Sample> top shows compiz as taking up 30% of my cpu at all times, is this abnormal?
[22:08] <MirkoKa> taherAbdo_: please reboot, then after login, open a terminal and run the command "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER" (without the quotes), then see if pidgin works again.
[22:08] <taherAbdo_> pepee: gparted "permission dynied"
[22:09] <pepee> taherAbdo_, do what MirkoKa said
[22:09] <wassy121> pepee: yeah, looks like the hard part was just getting it online.  Once I did, I'm going through an apt-get -f upgrade, and it looks like it might be trying to work
[22:09] <MirkoKa> taherAbdo_: you cannot run gparted as a normal user. don't confuse your normal user with the adminstarator, and please try my suggestion :-)
[22:10] <taherAbdo_> pepee: whta did he say
[22:10] <taherAbdo_> ?
[22:10] <wassy121> wonder why the 3.2 kernel didn't have any modules.dep in /lib/modules/*3.2*/ ...
 taherAbdo_: please reboot, then after login, open a terminal and run the command "sudo chown -R
[22:10] <nowimproved1> my resolution wont go up, when i type dmesg it says [   49.354277] NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter found!
[22:10] <pepee> wassy121, broken update?
[22:11] <pepee> wassy121, again, try to fix things using your package manager, or dpkg and apt-get
[22:11] <taherAbdo_> mirkoka: ok thank U
[22:11] <pepee> nowimproved1, what graphics card?
[22:11] <pepee> nowimproved1, and cpu?
[22:11] <Sample> Q: top shows compiz as taking up 30% of my cpu at all times, is this abnormal?
[22:11] <wassy121> pepee: maybe.  Unfortunate that it broke everything so hard.  I'm trying to fix it that way.  It's just tough when it stumps me after working with this stuff for 10+ years :-/
[22:12] <pepee> Sample, depends on your graphics card,I suppose
[22:12] <Sample> pepee: what does your show?
[22:12] <pyboy> answer Sample somebody,cant help Sample sorry
[22:12] <pepee> wassy121, I've fixed ubuntu by using them, so it's should be fine
[22:13] <OerHeks> kasii, what functions are you missing ?
[22:13] <Fyodorovna> Sample, seems high you might also try #compiz
[22:13] <Sample> ah good idea, will do
[22:14] <pepee> wassy121, try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[22:14] <mikester01> anyone experienced with KVM here today? Trying to set up a network bridge and I'm not having any success.
[22:14] <pepee> wassy121, err upgrade, without the safe-
[22:14] <ztag100> pyboy, Thanks, openshoot is WAY better then kdenlive
[22:15] <pepee> ok guys, gotta go
[22:15] <L3top> Take it easy pepee
[22:16] <kasii> OerHeks, scrolling up and down
[22:16] <normatif> wassy121: same here, inplace upgrade to 12.04 failed for me too
[22:16] <campee> is there an equivalent to the "rpm -qf filename" command in ubuntu? i.e. find out which package owns a particular file
[22:16] <pyboy> ztag100: no problem
[22:16] <abdo> hey
[22:16] <abdo> good afternoon
[22:16] <wassy121> campee: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[22:17] <L3top>  taherAbdo_: pepee's copy paste was cut short "please reboot, then after login, open a terminal and run the command "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER"       without the quotes
[22:17] <pyboy> abdo: what is the problem
[22:17] <abdo> can anyone help im new user of ubuntu]
[22:17] <wassy121> abdo: Don't ask to ask.  Just ask
[22:17] <abdo> how can i use uxterm
[22:18] <wassy121> abdo: as-in, you have it open, and you want to know how to use it?
[22:18] <abdo> yeah
[22:18] <f0x> how can i enable systray in gnome-session-fallback 12.04
[22:18] <f0x> ?
[22:18] <campee> wassy121: thank you
[22:18] <wassy121> abdo: type "ls" at the command prompt
[22:18] <abdo> what about ubuntu 12.4
[22:19] <wassy121> abdo: what about it?
[22:19] <mikester01> anyone experienced with KVM here today? Trying to set up a network bridge and I'm not having any success. Following the steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html#bridging doesn't seem to work for me.
[22:19] <kasii> OerHeks, scrolling up and down
[22:19] <pyboy> abdo: use a terminal not xterm
[22:20] <wassy121> pyboy: uxterm is a terminal, just like gnome-terminal, uxterm, eterm, and all the others
[22:20] <pyboy> abdo: press ctrl +alt+t to open a terminal
[22:20] <f0x> can anyone tell me how can i enable systray
[22:20] <dysoco> If I want to develop Java Software (Also Android) using Eclipse, what should I install ? OpenJDK or Oracle JDK?
[22:20] <f0x> in gnome-session-fallback
[22:20] <f0x> 12.04
[22:21] <abdo> i know how to open it but i couldnt know how to use it
[22:21] <wassy121> dysoco: I've found openjdk to be just fine for almost all circumstances
[22:21] <dysoco> wassy121, Thanks then
[22:21] <wassy121> abdo: what do you want to do with it?  Type commands and hit enter.  Try "ls"
[22:21] <wassy121> abdo: try "man man"
[22:22] <kasii> OerHeks, scrolling up and down
[22:22] <pyboy> abdo: ls lists out the files
[22:22] <abdo> i see command not found "man man"
[22:22] <wassy121> abdo: don't need quotes.
[22:22] <abdo> ok
[22:22] <wassy121> abdo: try here for some common commands: http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/unix/unix_cmd.html
[22:23] <BFranks> After updating my Ubuntu 11.x to 12.04 (running on an ESX server) I found myself with no xorg.conf  so I tried copying xorg.conf.failsafe to xorg.conf and that got me back into xwindows.. But Unity is SO unhappy and the speed is just a crawl.. Need some advice on killing Unity fully?
[22:23] <f0x> how can i enable systray?
[22:23] <taherabdo> mirkoka: please i missed the line of code yo send
[22:23] <BFranks> (or getting some diagnostics) Thanks! :)
[22:23] <taherabdo> mirkoka : sorry
[22:23] <pooltable> pepee got it fix thanks
[22:23] <MirkoKa> mikester01: so many thing can possible go wrong there^^ did you correcly adjust the IP numbers? is eth0 correct or is it  eth1? is your eth* connected to router (or other PC) which is off, etc. did you tell KVM to use the bridge interface? While we could help, I guess the KVM folks would be a better place to ask. :-)
[22:23] <abdo> let me check the command man man what is it about
[22:23] <pyboy> abdo: touch creats a text document and mkdir creates a folder i cant tell you all  the commands there is to much
[22:23] <OerHeks> kasii, i used to set gesture with gpointing-device-settings, i am not sure it still works
[22:24] <wassy121> BFranks: sometimes the upgrade silently doesn't finish.  Try to make sure "sudo apt-get -f upgrade" finishes successfully
[22:24] <pyboy> abdo: it is a start
[22:24] <wassy121> BFranks: And I think nowadays you can go without the xorg.conf ?  Not positive on that front
[22:24] <crash82> pepee, thanks :)
[22:24] <MirkoKa> taherAbdo_: please reboot, then after login, open a terminal and run the command "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER" (without the quotes), then see if pidgin works again. ^^
[22:25] <taherabdo> mirkoka: please i missed the line of code yo send
[22:25] <herpladee> hey guys i am having some problems with dns .. basically it is not working but using IPs instead IS working .. funny thing is that i have a windows computer on the same network that isn't experiencing these problems
[22:25] <herpladee> i've rebooted my ubuntu and turned my wireless card on and off
[22:25] <kasii> OerHeks,  so wat can do right now
[22:25] <wassy121> herpladee: check the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[22:25] <herpladee> but dns keeps not working while everything else works
[22:25] <zoltan__> hi can you help me, wifi not working  on 12.04
[22:25] <herpladee> wassy121, that file is empty
[22:25] <MirkoKa> taherabdo: did you see it now?
[22:25] <mikester01> MirkoKa, ultimately what I'm doing now is outside of KVM...the issue is getting the actual bridge set up
[22:25] <wassy121> herpladee: it may be you have bad entries in there, or none.  Try this: "nameserver 8.8.8.8"
[22:26] <wassy121> herpladee: that is Google's (?) public DNS server
[22:26] <stercor> Have all the reports of 12.04LTS been good?
[22:26] <abdo> i need time to check this command and what is benfits
[22:26] <taherabdo> mirkoka: chown: cannot access `/home/taher/.gvfs': Permission denied
[22:26] <herpladee> i used to have opendns there but i deleted them when my dns stopped working but that didn't solve the problem
[22:26] <herpladee> wow lol that worked!
[22:26] <wassy121> herpladee: :)
[22:27] <pyboy> abdo: any commands you want just ask
[22:27] <herpladee> thanks a lot :)
[22:27] <herpladee> i've been messing with this for like an hour now
[22:27] <abdo> thanks a lot
[22:27] <nafta> hello, anyone know how could I run all php files in a directory with run-parts? I'm trying to do... run-parts /usr/bin/php /var/www/cron but it says run-parts: missing operand
[22:28] <wassy121> nafta: run-parts isn't meant for that use.  What are you trying to do?
[22:28] <L3top> zoltan what is the wifi hardware? (check lspci)
[22:28] <wassy121> nafta: I think run-parts is part of the cron package itself.  I would try writing a small script, and put that in /etc/cron.d/
[22:28] <MirkoKa> taherabdo: that's Ok. The .gvfs directory is special. please try pidgin now.
[22:29] <nafta> wassy121 I'm trying to create a cronjob to run all the files in a directory...so in my crontab I have something like * * * * * run-parts /usr/bin/php /var/www/tweet_tnc/cron/
[22:29] <taherabdo> mirkoka: ok
[22:29] <wassy121> nafta: a script that does something like "for file in `ls /var/www/cron/`; do php $file; done"
[22:30] <nafta> wassy121 can I actually use that exact piece of code you wrote bro?
[22:30] <nafta> and how could I tell it to run like....every single minute
[22:30] <wassy121> nafta: pretty close, yes.  Directory needs to be changed, but that is the right syntax
[22:30] <wassy121> nafta: I would put it in a shell script in like /home/blah/scripts/run-crons.sh .
[22:31] <taherabdo> mirkoka: ok , pidgin is runing now nice but , root directory sill "permission dynied"
[22:31] <kasii> OerHeks,  am waiting for u
[22:31] <wassy121> nafta: and have run-crons.sh be an executable file that just says what I wrote above
[22:32] <kasii> OerHeks,  am waiting for u
[22:32] <maca> Hi. SOmeone use yacy??
[22:32] <MirkoKa> taherabdo: great, I belive we have fixed your problem. access to the root directory is always permitted for a normal user. why do you think you need access to it?
[22:32] <L3top> You should not parse the output of ls in scripts... and $(command) is preferred over the older `command` see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs
[22:32] <MirkoKa> taherabdo: s/permitted/denied/
[22:33] <wassy121> nafta: l3top is right.  Specifically because ls doesn't translate spaces and special characters right
[22:33] <SolarisBoy> heh
[22:33] <mathor> gksu  nautilus  <directory name>
[22:33] <taherabdo> mirkoka: i thought i'm in the sudo user generally, so i can access it
[22:33] <mathor> that will give you root permission
[22:33] <wassy121> maybe something like "find /var/www/cron -name "*.php" -exec php {} \;"
[22:33] <pyboy> SolarisBoy: hi
[22:33] <SolarisBoy> its multiple ways to handle spaces
[22:34] <SolarisBoy> its more so bash or your shell than ls thats not interpreing it properly
[22:34] <SolarisBoy> hi pyboy
[22:34] <pyboy> SolarisBoy: what is your problem
[22:34] <SolarisBoy> i dont have one currently
[22:34] <SolarisBoy> you?
[22:35] <RageRiot> I've posted some of my troubles on the forums if anyone could take a look thanks :D http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1969821
[22:35] <pyboy> SolarisBoy: no problems
[22:35] <mathor> just type in "gksu nautilus"  and go to the folder you want, that will open your file manager in root
[22:35] <abdo> info:amaork
[22:35] <nafta> wassy121 Could not open input file: feed_0.php
[22:35] <nafta> that's after running the script
[22:36] <nafta> and that file is 777
[22:36] <wassy121> nafta: never 777 :(  755 at most please
[22:36] <kasii> OerHeks,  am waiting for u
[22:36] <wassy121> nafta: I think my find command I gave above is a bit better.  Takes "for" and "ls" out of the picture
[22:37] <SolarisBoy> while
[22:37] <nafta> wait..didn't catch it
[22:37] <SolarisBoy> while read handles spaces..
[22:37] <SolarisBoy> xargs also if used with find properly
[22:37] <wassy121> while read is even more wieldy than find -exec :-/
[22:37] <fusk> hello. Is it a known problem that 11.10 or 12.04 freezes after sleep on notebooks ?
[22:38] <pooltable> ok the console is all black i do not see the system name at all how to fix?
[22:38] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[22:38] <MirkoKa> taherabdo: well, yes, no, sort of. what you are is a "main user" (windows speak). you  are still a normal user who doesn't have access to the system files for example. but as you are a main user who is allowed to use sudo you can turn yourself into the admin user root. in other words, you don't have access to the system files unless you insist on it by using sudo.
[22:38] <SolarisBoy> -exec is executing command for each entry found
[22:38] <SolarisBoy> and juggling the name in '{}'
[22:38] <SolarisBoy> so depending on how you word find and exec and how you use while determines the usability of both
[22:38] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[22:39] <L3top> SolarisBoy: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs  will also explain specifically why you should not use while, and instead find, as wassy121 corrected.
[22:39] <ThePendulum> Everytime I open up my laptop (from sleepmode/hibernation), the resolution is messed op. Is this a known problem?
[22:39] <ThePendulum> Not just the resolution, overall graphics are odd.
[22:40] <SolarisBoy> why should that mean not to use while?
[22:40] <pyboy> ThePendulum: what version you running
[22:40] <abdo> please i need command that will install freenode
[22:40] <SolarisBoy> or rather to handle unexpected situations if you use while?
[22:40] <ThePendulum> pyboy: The latest, 12.04
[22:40] <SolarisBoy> your talking ease
[22:40] <wassy121> abdo: you're on freenode?
[22:40] <SolarisBoy> still
[22:41] <JessicaW> what are the two numbers at the end of the line in fstab for?
[22:41] <wassy121> abdo: so what do you need?
[22:41] <pyboy> abdo: type sudo apt-get install  freenode
[22:41] <abdo> yeah i ve another pc
[22:41] <wassy121> JessicaW: they are for "pass" and "fsck" if I recall correctly
[22:41] <pyboy> lol
[22:41] <JessicaW> wassy121: that's what aI was thinking too.
[22:41] <nafta> wassy121 that last script runs fantastic
[22:41] <nafta> thanks a lot to both
[22:41] <lauratika> is there a way to show rhythmbox icon in panel on 12.04?
[22:41] <wassy121> JessicaW: man fstab tells it like it is.  dump and pass
[22:41] <JessicaW> wassy121: why would you want to fsck a network mounted disk at every reboot?
[22:42] <wassy121> JessicaW: you don't
[22:42] <shallwe> AMD Dual-Core E-350 with ati, is it working with 3d?
[22:42] <SolarisBoy> you dont
[22:42] <SolarisBoy> generally network mounts are set to NOT fsk
[22:42] <SolarisBoy> *fsck
[22:42] <nafta> wassy121 so basically...in my crontab -e I can add * * * * * * /home/myscript
[22:42] <MirkoKa> JessicaW:  see man fstab for the explanation of the fs_freq and fs_passno options
[22:42] <nafta> and that's it...right?
[22:42] <SolarisBoy> no
[22:42] <wassy121> nafta: that's right.
[22:42] <JessicaW> SolarisBoy: the ubuntu wiki says to put 0 1 for a windows share but I don't think that's right.
[22:42] <kasii> OerHeks,  am waiting for u
[22:43] <nafta> wassy121 mind my asking...that crontab thing is always running by default? or do i have to activate it? in case I restart the server etc?
[22:43] <JessicaW> pretty sure it should be 0 0
[22:43] <coldlogic> new to this. how do i join another channel?
[22:43] <pyboy> abdo: you are on freenode what are you talking about
[22:43] <wassy121> coldlogic: /j #channelname
[22:43] <L3top> Because while does not terminate filenames with nulls given from ls is my understanding SolarisBoy.
[22:43] <taherabdo> mirkoka: thanQ very much, but can you expalin the command please
[22:43] <doktah> Can someone please tell me how I run a program from applications menu as an administrator?
[22:43] <pyboy> codepal: type /join #channelname
[22:43] <SolarisBoy> L3top: dump is for backups pass is for fsck
[22:43] <JessicaW> nafta: it's always running
[22:43] <SolarisBoy> i don't know if you should be setting archive bits on windows FS
[22:44] <SolarisBoy> do you even use dump to back things up?
[22:44] <Hilikus> i'm using ubuntu software center to update virtualbox's .deb package. I clicked install but there is no feedback, how can i know if its working or stuck or it's finished?
[22:44] <abdo> yeah im sure im on freenode but i ve another pc . pz help
[22:44] <SolarisBoy> if not than it shouldn't matter either or
[22:44] <wassy121> nafta: it should always be running.  It's a system service that you probably wouldn't ever turn off.
[22:44] <JessicaW> nafta: once you put something in crontab, crontab will run it forever. as long as your application is working.
[22:44] <Hilikus> this software center program looks pretty bad to me
[22:44] <L3top> I am referring just to bash scripting SolarisBoy, you asked why, that is the answer as I understand it. I am not a bash expert, I am just trying to improve bad habits.
[22:44] <SolarisBoy> yea but thats 6 entries for time slots
[22:44] <SolarisBoy> there are 5 in cron
[22:44] <SolarisBoy> so its wrong
[22:45] <SolarisBoy> L3top: i see
[22:45] <wassy121> abdo: Oh, you want a linux IRC client.  Try x-chat.  You can find it in the software center
[22:45] <pyboy> codlogic:type /join #chnnelname
[22:45] <f0x> can anybody help me with systray enabling?
[22:45] <SolarisBoy> L3top: it depends on IFS
[22:45] <pyboy> codlogic:type /join #channelname
[22:45] <SolarisBoy> and you can set that accordingly to what you expect to receive in most cases, but as explained there are more than one way to cut a frog in linux
[22:46] <lauratika> please?
[22:46] <wassy121> IFS = Inter-Field-Separator for those spectating this nerd-fest about how to parse output
[22:46] <wassy121> :)
[22:46] <SolarisBoy> ;>
[22:46] <L3top> ")
[22:46] <SolarisBoy> right its a global property i think that defaults to some space character
[22:46] <sirknight> how and where do i get the 12.04 torrant.. imm at the ubuntu site
[22:46] <taherabdo> mirkoka: thanQ very much, but can you expalin the command please
[22:46] <pyboy> abdo: want help ask me anything
[22:47] <Sm1th> @codlogic: if you are using xchat as your client you cna click on Server in the menu bar and click channel list
[22:48] <MirkoKa> taherabdo: change the file owner (chown) to your user $USER (and your user group, $USER again) recursively (-R) for all files and directories in your home (/home/$USER). since there might be files which you don't have accces to, run it as the admin account "root" using the sudo command. Does that clear it up a little?
[22:48] <wassy121> lauratika: I think rythymbox applet has been combined with volume applet
[22:48] <wassy121> lauratika: try under the speaker icon
[22:48] <MirkoKa> !patince | taherabdo
[22:48] <vexaxv> i feel stupid for asking but where is the effin dim settings for 12.04
[22:49] <SolarisBoy> why?
[22:49] <lauratika> it is there but i want it like any ofther application on the panel
[22:49] <kasii> OerHeks,  am waiting for u
[22:49] <linuxloony89> Hi all, has anyone had any luck getting there iphone 4s working on 12.04
[22:49] <taherabdo> mirkoka: yeap , thanQ
[22:50] <SolarisBoy> i dont think ill be upgrading for a while =(
[22:50] <pyboy> kasii: give him time i know you have been waiting for a long time go  for something to eat
[22:51] <Sm1th> For someone new to Ubuntu what are the first things I should do after a fresh install.  I checked sound and wifi, they are good.  i installed xchat hoping for some guidance. :)
[22:51] <KM0201> SolarisBoy: upgrading what?
[22:51] <SolarisBoy> ubuntu versions
[22:51] <wassy121> Sm1th: Install chrome, chrome-to-phone, flash plugin, umm . ..
[22:51] <wassy121> make sure your 3d works
[22:51] <KM0201> SolarisBoy: what are you using now, and why not?
[22:51] <SolarisBoy> 11.10
[22:51] <mbucko> is there a simple way to replace unity with gnome?
[22:51] <SolarisBoy> because it works fine.
[22:52] <Sm1th> wassy121: how would i check if my 3d is working?
[22:52] <iceroot> Sm1th: enjoying is he first you should do
[22:52] <KM0201> SolarisBoy: then thats fine.. just make sure you don't let it go EOL before you upgrade.
[22:52] <OerHeks> kasii sorry just had to went away, did you see the last message about gpointing-device-settings
[22:52] <SolarisBoy> KM0201: i generally dont
[22:52] <linuxloony89> set up email address in thunderbird and start thinking about what software you need on your install
[22:52] <Sm1th> it is quite nice iceroot. :)
[22:52] <SolarisBoy> last time that happend was 8.x days =)
[22:52] <KM0201> SolarisBoy: whats wrong w/ 12.04? (or is it there's just nothing wrong w/ 11.10?)
[22:52] <DarwinSurvivor> Sm1th: it kind of depends what you will be using the computer for. is it an internet/email machine, a gaming rig, a school/work computer, etc?
[22:52] <pyboy> Sm1th: what are you going to use for
[22:53] <iceroot> Sm1th: nice to hear that
[22:53] <Sm1th> its just a laptop that i will be tinkering with and learning the ins and outs of linux
[22:53] <SolarisBoy> nothing that i know of yet - i use ubuntu at home for a desktop and at work for a desktop/laptop - so i seriously dont need/want any unexpected breakage of things in either - i generally like to monitor the threads, see whats going on etc before i just up and upgrade anyhow
[22:53] <Sm1th> i personally prefer mozilla over chrome... and all my email is browser based.
[22:54] <pyboy> Sm1th: do you wanna learn the commandline aka the terminal
[22:54] <DarwinSurvivor> Sm1th: alright. to check 3d, install a 3d game like tremoulus, urbanterror, etc and see if it's laggy.
[22:54] <Sm1th> i have a little bit of experience with the terminal
[22:54] <ed_money> I am trying to remove all files that start with 'ex', and end with any number of digits, eg: 'ex1', 'ex23', etc. I've tried things like 'rm -rf ex[0-9]\+\$' with no luck. Tips?
[22:54] <SolarisBoy> my friend was chugging along on the update before i left the office today - planned to check with him how it went tomorrow'ish - if its ok - that may prompt me to update faster
[22:54] <L3top> SolarisBoy: quick pm?
[22:54] <SolarisBoy> sure why not.
[22:54] <taherabdo> mirkoka: thanQ
[22:55] <pyboy> bye homeies
[22:55] <Sm1th> ok darwin i like the sound of urban terror. lol ill try that thanks
[22:55] <DarwinSurvivor> Sm1th: no problem
[22:56] <sirknight> how and where do i get the 12.04 torrant.. imm at the ubuntu site
[22:56] <tridentfish> Hi can some one help me with xchat?
[22:56] <MirkoKa> ed_money: the shell doesn't do regex, but simpler globbing. try "rm -rf ex*[0-9]" or similar (try with echo first to be sure you have the pattern right!)
[22:56] <ThePendulum> tridentfish: What seems to be the problem?
[22:57] <Fyodorovna> sirknight, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[22:57] <tridentfish> I want to user the chat room for Enlightenment irc and well what do I do?
[22:57] <ThePendulum> Could anyone help me with some issues? Anyone available?
[22:57] <Dirigible> I am logged into 11.10 using LDAP authentication. The bar at the top does not offer me a Log Out option. How do I log out?
[22:58] <ed_money> MirkoKa: the shell doesn't do regex? huh, thought it did. thanks for the tip.
[22:58] <SolarisBoy> shopt -s extglob || is pretty cool
[22:58] <ThePendulum> DigitalFlux: There's no little gear, or your name?
[22:58] <SolarisBoy> @ ed_money
[22:58] <amaroks> Hello
[22:58] <Sm1th> DarwinSurvivor: i could not find urbanterror but im installing openarena.
[22:58] <SolarisBoy> bash goes globbing
[22:58] <SolarisBoy> lol
[22:58] <amaroks> whats wrong with this rule?  iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -d 173.236.62.162 –dport 25 -j ACCEPT
[22:58] <tridentfish> I do not understand IRC much at all I know basically is how to go threw different chat rooms.
[22:59] <SolarisBoy> amaroks: what is it intended to do?
[22:59] <MirkoKa> taherabdo: my pleasure :-)
[22:59] <Dirigible> ThePendulum: Assuming you are talking to me, when I click my name I'm offered other local user accounts, Switch User Account.. Online Accounts.. and User Accounts..
[22:59] <SolarisBoy> it seems to be "trying" to let tcp traffic out TO port 25...
[22:59] <ThePendulum> Dirigible: Whops, mismentioned, I'm sorry. There isn't a gear on the right of it?
[22:59] <amaroks> SolarisBoy: yes i blocked it by accident yesterday
[23:00] <amaroks> and Now want it allow it back but i get  bad argument -dport
[23:00] <Dirigible> ThePendulum: Hmm, there might be, but it might go off the edge of the screen.
[23:00] <Dirigible> amaroks: --dport
[23:00] <Dirigible> Two dashes.
[23:00] <DarwinSurvivor> !torrent | sirknight
[23:00] <ThePendulum> Dirigible: You should tweak your screen then... Isn't there an 'Auto' button on the screen?
[23:00] <DarwinSurvivor> oops
[23:01] <DarwinSurvivor> sirknight: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[23:01] <DarwinSurvivor> Sm1th: another goog game
[23:01] <tridentfish> So no help I take it?
[23:01] <SolarisBoy> amaroks: ok
[23:01] <x-tab> hi
[23:01] <SolarisBoy> amaroks: correct those are long options so --dport
[23:01] <x-tab> ciao
[23:01] <ThePendulum> tridentfish: I use Pidgin for IRC, so I'm afraid I can't help you with other clients. Try their channels
[23:01] <x-tab> i'm ita
[23:01] <DarwinSurvivor> tridentfish: #ubuntu is not an irc help channel
[23:01] <sirknight> thanks guys for the help...  and where do i get the dvd size?
[23:01] <Dirigible> ThePendulum: I don't think it's letting me change resolution..
[23:02] <amaroks> SolarisBoy: actually i have it -- not one
[23:02] <DarwinSurvivor> tridentfish: if you are looking for help with a particular irc program, which one are you using. if you want general irc information, please see #irc
[23:02] <sirknight> tridentfish,  what do you need??
[23:02] <ThePendulum> Dirigible: A resolution setting usually doesn't get things behind the edge of your screen, it usually screens within the viewport. Is the gear visible on a screenshot?
[23:02] <SolarisBoy> amaroks: ok
[23:03] <tridentfish> To connect to the IRC for  Enlightenment.
[23:03] <JamesB> So... I just moved my netbook from 10.04 to 12.04... and... where did all my applications go?
[23:03] <LinuxMonkey> that would be #e
[23:03] <JamesB> On the left there's something resembling a search feature but it sits there and does nothing no matter what I type into it, and then there's Firefox and like three icons?
[23:03] <Dirigible> ThePendulum: No, it isn't in a screenshot.
[23:03] <amaroks> how do I allow an output port for a specific ip?
[23:04] <ThePendulum> Dirigible: Odd, then it just isn't there. Could you show me the shot?
[23:04] <DarwinSurvivor> tridentfish: most organizations that use IRC will post the server and channel name on their website somewhere.
[23:04] <fuzai> Has anyone been successful with an ltsp install with 12.04?  I've made this work many times before, but with the new 12.04 release I can't get my thin clients to boot and it seems like nbd-server isn't working
[23:04] <LinuxMonkey> tridentfish, are you using xchat? try /j #e
[23:04] <tridentfish> So what do I do with info?
[23:05] <tridentfish> I understand some of it but still confused.
[23:05] <Dirigible> ThePendulum: http://i.imgur.com/J8hQI.png
[23:05] <mrdeb> hi. who knows how to remove ubuntu firefox modication
[23:05] <kasii> OerHeks,  am waiting for u
[23:05] <ThePendulum> Dirigible: That's 12.04?
[23:06] <Dirigible> No, as I said, 11.10.
[23:06] <mrdeb> hello
[23:06] <Dirigible> ThePendulum: No, as I said, 11.10.
[23:06] <DarwinSurvivor> tridentfish: for help with xchat, see #xchat-gnome. for help with irc, see #irc. This channel is for help with ubuntu-related issues
[23:06] <ThePendulum> Dirigible: Whops, my bad. Have you installed the display drivers?
[23:07] <Dirigible> I haven't, it's running in VMWare. When I log in locally everything is fine.
[23:07] <Dirigible> ThePendulum: I haven't, it's running in VMWare. When I log in locally everything is fine.
[23:07] <Dirigible> Keep forgetting to highlight.
[23:07] <tridentfish> Thanks most help for this place all month.
[23:08] <mrdeb> hi. who knows how to remove ubuntu firefox modication
[23:08] <MirkoKa> mrdeb: not sure how to remove it (remove ubutfox?), but can't you just disable the addon?
[23:08] <bluebomber> Firefox doesn't appear in my application switcher (ALT-TAB) anymore when it's open. Any ideas?
[23:08] <mrdeb> no i cant disable it MirkoKa
[23:08] <mrdeb> what is the name in apt
[23:09] <xangua> (18:08:41) mrdeb: no i cant disable it MirkoKa - i have just done that
[23:09] <mrdeb> how
[23:10] <doktah> Can someone please tell me how I run a program from applications menu as an administrator?
[23:10] <ThePendulum> When I reopen the lid of my laptop (with Ubuntu running), the screen display splits in half and the graphics get completely messed up. Any ideas?
[23:10] <ThePendulum> Only a reboot solves it
[23:10] <JamesB> Has anyone run into "Dash Home" not working at all on 12.04?
[23:11] <mrdeb> xangua: how
[23:11] <MACscr> can i log directly in as root into an ubuntu system when using an ssh key? Do i just need to set it to allow direct root access to ssh?
[23:11] <L3top> in most situations that is a bad idea doktah. what version ubuntu?
[23:11] <jellow> doktah: use gksu
[23:11] <xangua> mrdeb: on firefox addon tab
[23:11] <MirkoKa> mrdeb: if you can't disable it (why not), try removing the "ubufox" package. also pleas learn abot patience, there's no need to repeat the question every minute :-)
[23:11] <mrdeb> xangua: how do you remove it from apt
[23:11] <mrdeb> ok
[23:11] <mrdeb> thank you
[23:11] <jrib> MACscr: you can... why would you want to though?
[23:11] <xangua> mrdeb: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[23:12] <mrdeb> so its ubufox
[23:12] <MACscr> jrib: my remote management software wont do sudo as far as i know
[23:12] <jrib> MACscr: what software is that?
[23:12] <JamesB> Say, is it possible to upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 to a different distro without reinstalling?
[23:12] <ThePendulum> JamesB: A different Ubuntu distro, or a completely different one?
[23:12] <jrib> JamesB: umm, define "a different distro"
[23:13] <MACscr> jrib: cloudmin
[23:13] <JamesB> Well, for instance, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, possibly Debian etc. if the former two have the same changes as ubuntu 10.04->12.04...
[23:13] <jrib> !webmin | MACscr
[23:13] <ThePendulum> JamesB: Kubuntu and Xubuntu should be possible, but perhaps not be flawlessly. Ubuntu --> Debian... probably not.
[23:14] <LinuxMonkey> mrdeb, its probably xul-ext-ubufox if your using 12.04
[23:14] <MACscr> jrib: i dont think i ever said webmin
[23:14] <iceroot> JamesB: you can easily install xubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu by "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" or "lubuntu-desktop" and so on, a change to debian is not possible
[23:14] <jrib> MACscr: doesn't cloudmin run on top op webmin?
[23:14] <jrib> s/op/of
[23:14] <mrdeb> LinuxMonkey: i remove ubufox, so may it will work
[23:15] <MACscr> jrib: yes, but only on the management host. Its not required on the systems it manages
[23:15] <JamesB> Hmm ok, i will try Kubuntu first then. 10.04->12.04 has made my netbook into a nice shiny brick more or less, as "Dash Home" does not work, and there are about four icons other than that, aside from the obvious embarassments to Fitts' Law I am seeing
[23:15] <jrib> MACscr: I see
[23:15] <mrdeb> i went back to 10.04 becaus 12.04 was too slow and things didntwork
[23:15] <MACscr> but it does use scp for some things and you cant sudo with scp according to the author
[23:15] <jrib> MACscr: well you can ssh as root like you said, just drop a key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys .  I handle backups that way
[23:15] <ThePendulum> JamesB: What keeps you from a full reinstall?
[23:15] <MACscr> jrib: ok, thanks
[23:15] <JamesB> I have programs and software I actually need to keep?
[23:16] <LinuxMonkey> ah yeah its ubufox then
[23:16] <mrdeb> thanks
[23:16] <ThePendulum> JamesB: Can't you list the software you're using and reinstall all of it?
[23:16] <mrdeb> also vlc doesnt work on 1004 anymore from ppa
[23:16] <mrdeb> is this true
[23:16] <Fyodorovna> JamesB, try resetting unity alt-f2 type unity --reset  This puts unity to install state.
[23:17] <AVP> hey how do i use Evolution to access my yahoo account?
[23:17] <mrdeb> i know that if u insatll compizmanager, you can turn off vsync and then unity is a lot faster
[23:17] <mrdeb> why is this not originally in options
[23:17] <mrdeb> ?
[23:17] <pedroTI> hi
[23:17] <JamesB> Fyodorovna: The Alt-F2 seems to go to the Dash. I hit Enter and nothing happens, like when I type anything else into the Dash...
[23:18] <mrdeb> alt f2 looks like dash but its really run dcommand
[23:18] <pedroTI> can a help to install amsn
[23:18]  * cyphase made a program that solves Lights Off
[23:18] <mrdeb> that is the problem is htat everything looks like dash
[23:18] <tridentfish> I hate to be a bother but I need help to figure a way to extend the live of my laptop the netbook heats up a lot and the cpu spikes like crazy.
[23:18] <Pici> !who | mrdeb
[23:18] <ThePendulum> For some reason, the touchpad doesn't work in my Ubuntu 12.04 laptop account, while it does in the greeter and any other account
[23:18] <mrdeb> hi pici
[23:18] <Fyodorovna> JamesB, you can run it in a terminal unity --reset & exit
[23:19] <JamesB> Yeah I am trying it with a terminal
[23:19] <KM0201> tridentfish: are you running a bunch of crazy effects>
[23:19] <nafta> wassy121 thanks for all your help, everything is working perfectly.
[23:19] <JamesB> So far, a warning about a panel service not being found, there it's done it, but still nothing in Dash
[23:19] <KM0201> tridentfish: also, are you noticing a particular app that causes it to spike...? or is it spiked evne when no apps are running
[23:20] <eightyeight> what is the pxe append line to change the repository to find the software? i have access to a local mirror, and this box can't get to ubuntu.com
[23:20] <Fyodorovna> JamesB, had you changed anything in compiz that can be reset as well.
[23:20] <Dirigible> I am logged into 11.10 using LDAP authentication. The bar at the top does not offer me a Log Out option. How do I log out?
[23:21] <Dirigible> Is there a channel for Unity, specifically?
[23:21] <JamesB> Don't know, I've had this system for years
[23:23] <sgerbino> anyone know how to get do screen recording with ffmpeg, im on 12.04 and get Cannot display X errors when I follow guides
[23:24] <Sm1th> Can someone instruct me, as to where I might get the intel graphics driver? or do i just use the mesa one that came installed in ubuntu
[23:24] <tridentfish> Nothing special and I have used different environments to help with the spikes. All programs causes the spikes pretty much.
[23:24] <ThePendulum> Sm1th: In your System Settings panel, you should find an item "Additional Drivers"
[23:24] <ThePendulum> Sm1th: If there are additional drivers for your system, they should be listed
[23:25] <ThePendulum> Sm1th: You may find the System Settings window under the gear at the top right of your screen
[23:25] <pedroTI> help please
[23:25] <pedroTI> to install amsn
[23:25] <pedroTI> in no ubuntu 12
[23:26] <ThePendulum> pedroTI: Have you tried Pidgin? I recommend it over amsn anytime. 1 second, trying to find out how to install aMSN if you really like it
[23:26] <Sm1th> ThePendulum: it says that there are no additional driver needed.
[23:26] <tridentfish> Why I need to get to the chat room for Enlightenment desktop environment is an attempt to save it.
[23:26] <pedroTI> hellooo
[23:26] <ThePendulum> Sm1th: Are you encountering graphical problems?
[23:27] <Fyodorovna> tridentfish, in the channel bar type /j #e only and hit enter
[23:27] <LinuxMonkey> Fyodorovna, he's allready in #e
[23:27] <Sm1th> ThePendulum: No, i was just sort of learning how to test certain aspects of this system, being my first with ubuntu and all.
[23:27] <MirkoKa> pedroTI: amsn in in the repos, what problem do you face exactly when installing it?
[23:27] <Fyodorovna> LinuxMonkey, wasn't sure if they actually made it loil.
[23:27] <tridentfish> I have all ready connected I was just saying what I have tried.
[23:28] <Sm1th> ThePendulum: i found that glxgears runs at about 60fps in fullscreen so i think the 3d part is ok.
[23:28] <ThePendulum> Sm1th: Alright, seems like Ubuntu has the optimal graphics drivers already installed then
[23:28] <Sm1th> ThePendulum: cool. Thanks for the heads up.
[23:29] <ThePendulum> Sm1th: Happy to help
[23:29] <pedroTI> please who install AMSN
[23:30] <pedroTI> ubuntu 12
[23:30] <tridentfish> I am collage student who can't really buy a new net book or laptop any time soon. So I am desperate to extend the life of the net book I have right now. My net book is a acer AOA150.
[23:30] <iceroot> !info amsn
[23:31] <pepee> tridentfish, try lubuntu
[23:31] <aaas> how do i run a command over and over ...such as 'ps -A | grep program'
[23:31] <iceroot> aaas: watch command
[23:31] <aaas> iceroot thanks
[23:32] <autojack> has anyone here used ubuntu on ec2, and noticed that their instance lacks any files in /proc/xen ? puppet uses those to figure out if the box is a VM or physical, so that breaks here.
[23:32] <Fyodorovna> pedroTI, removed from the precise repo.
[23:32] <pedroTI> who dis?
[23:32] <pepee> tridentfish, how much memory does the computer have?
[23:32] <KM0201> tridentfish: you didn't answer my question earlier.. is it spiking the CPU all the time, or just when you use certain apps, or what?
[23:32] <tridentfish> I have it and tried dose the same as Ubuntu. I have even used lower recourse intensive environments.
[23:33] <Fyodorovna> pedroTI, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/amsn/0.98.4-0ubuntu3
[23:33] <tridentfish> It spikes all the time.
[23:33] <xangua> Fyodorovna: isn't in universe¿ i can see it on packages.ubuntu.com http://is.gd/7Gpp5P
[23:34] <pedroTI> How to do it
[23:34] <pepee> tridentfish, checked power management configs?
[23:34] <pedroTI> Fyodorovna
[23:34] <tridentfish> The computer has a half gig of ram and 1.60 GHz, 533 MHz FSB, 512 KB L2 cache.
[23:34] <xangua> ooh i see, it's not in pangolin
[23:34] <KM0201> hmm
[23:34] <Fyodorovna> xangua, what I see is in  precise universe until feb 2012
[23:34] <pepee> tridentfish, pentium 4?
[23:34] <ThePendulum> Could anyone give me a hand?
[23:34] <ThePendulum> The touchpad doesn't work on just my account
[23:35] <ThePendulum> I am an administrator, and it's the first account on the laptop
[23:35] <ThePendulum> It's the only account that doesn't have a functional touchpad
[23:35] <DarwinSurvivor> !intel | site Sm1th
[23:35] <DarwinSurvivor> gah
[23:35] <xangua> ThePendulum: tried your function keys to enable/disable touchpad¿
[23:35] <ThePendulum> xangua: Which one?
[23:36] <ThePendulum> xangua: Mother of god. Touché
[23:36] <Fyodorovna> pedroTI, I do see this ppa though. https://launchpad.net/~amsn-daily/+archive/ppa
[23:36] <ThePendulum> xangua: I didn't even know there was a key for that
[23:36] <KM0201> lol
[23:36] <DarwinSurvivor> Sm1th: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers#Intel
[23:36] <bitboy> how do i make virtual box full screen
[23:36] <Chax> I just made the switch from Windows to Ubuntu and am wondering why it seems slow launching new programs. It was deathly slow before I updated my VGA, then a bit better, but I find that every once and a while it stops and freezes for about 1 - 10 seconds. Any ideas?
[23:36] <bitboy> the ubuntu os only takes up a small portion of my screen
[23:36] <DarwinSurvivor> bitboy: it's in the menu
[23:36] <MirkoKa> bitboy: install the guest additions
[23:37] <DarwinSurvivor> Chax: what are the specs (cpu, ram, graphics card) of the system?
[23:37] <Fyodorovna> bitboy, install the guest additions
[23:37] <ThePendulum> bitboy: Crack up the resolution and click the host key (right ctrl by default, I think) + f
[23:37] <tridentfish> It just says  Intel Atom for it.
[23:37] <KM0201> you can also go to "scaled" mode... and just adjust th ewindow size (thats what i usually do.
[23:37] <pepee> tridentfish, ahh k
[23:38] <pepee> tridentfish, what laptop? please, specify the model
[23:38] <pedroTI> and then
[23:38] <DarwinSurvivor> tridentfish: 1/2GB of ram is rather small for the applications ubuntu uses (firefox, libreoffice, etc). You might want to consider an upgrade (1GB total should suffice)
[23:38] <pedroTI> Fyodorovna
[23:38] <tridentfish> Acer AOA 150.
[23:38] <pedroTI> and then
[23:38] <Fyodorovna> pedroTI, do you know how to add the ppa to your sources.list?
[23:39] <KM0201> tridentfish: have you tried other linux distributions, to see if it does the same thing?  i'd consider giving Fedora's LXDE spin a try and see if it helps.
[23:40] <pedroTI> the two site
[23:40] <DarwinSurvivor> !pastebin | Chax
[23:40] <tridentfish> I have had really nasty experiences with Fedora. What about BSD?
[23:41] <ooldirty> hey guys, this probably sounds stupid, but does system() fork?
[23:41] <KM0201> tridentfish: if you had a nasty experience w/ fedora, i can't imagine you having a good experience w/ BSD
[23:41] <Sm1th> DarwinSurvivor: it seems that the drivers are bundled with Ubuntu since 2009 so im good. :)
[23:41] <RageRiot> error reading meta data, Cannot allocate memory <-- does this mean the system doesnt have enough memeory ?
[23:41] <pepee> tridentfish, https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/acer-aspire-one-netbook-heating-736029/    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[23:41] <Fyodorovna> pedroTI, this will add the repo and install.  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:amsn-daily/ppa  hit enter when asked the run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt get install amsn
[23:41] <MirkoKa> tridentfish: BSD is not a Linux, it's even harder than Fedora/CentOS. more on the SLackware/Arch level
[23:42] <tables> anyone try nat port forwarding on virtualbox on ubuntu?
[23:42] <xangua> Fyodorovna: that PPA you suggested doesn't really has what he is looking for, all packages failed to build
[23:42] <lapsusbrutus> tables: yup
[23:42] <tables> lapsusbrutus, howd you get it to work?
[23:42] <tables> i'm trying to connect onto the nat'd vm
[23:42] <tables> like get apache
[23:42] <Fyodorovna> xangua, ah good eye I did not look for that. :)
[23:43] <lapsusbrutus> tables: but I prefer to create a virtual bridge to have vms connect to network
[23:43] <tables> i do too it works better
[23:43] <tables> but right now i cannot bridge
[23:43] <Fyodorovna> pedroTI, it loks as that ppa is not your answer sorry about that.
[23:43] <Fyodorovna> loks*
[23:43] <lapsusbrutus> tables: install bridge-utils, and I send you config for setting up bridge
[23:43] <tridentfish> The issue I had with it was the partition and stuff screwed with my other os's.
[23:44] <MirkoKa> tridentfish: sorry to say, but that is a user problem, not an OS problem :-) and BSD makes partitionnig even harder
[23:45] <KM0201> tridentfish: what other OS was on the the machine?
[23:45] <Chax> I just made the switch to Ubuntu and have found that it seems to freeze up for anywheres from 1 - 10 seconds every so often. Can anyone help me out? http://paste.ubuntu.com/958773/
[23:45] <cpruitt> Can anyone recommend a good book on administration for Ubuntu (used as a web server).  Ideally it'd read well for a developer, not a sysadmin.  I want to learn but I don't have much sysadmin background.
[23:46] <DarwinSurvivor> tridentfish: as someone that uses ubuntu, fedora, archlinux and freebsd all at home, freebsd is WAY harder than any of the other 3!
[23:46] <brightsparks> Is it ok to disable bluetooth in ubuntu 11.10 or not?
[23:46] <MirkoKa> Chax: does that happen with specific programs which you can name?
[23:46] <DarwinSurvivor> cpruitt: if you are primarily a developer, why are you running server edition...?
[23:46] <tridentfish> lubuntu as of right now but in the past I have had backtrack, windows xp, fedora, puppy, and supper os.
[23:46] <iceroot> brightsparks: if you dont need it
[23:47] <cpruitt> DarwinSurvivor: Because it's my web server?
[23:47] <MirkoKa> brightsparks: if you don't have any bluetooth devicesm, yes
[23:47] <brightsparks> iceroot: hi thanks.
[23:47] <Chax> Xchat, Firefox, and I find it takes longer than I would expect to startup a program.
[23:47] <cpruitt> And I don't need all the GUI stuff on a box sitting in my data center.
[23:47] <Chax> MirkoKa: Xchat, Firefox, and I find it takes longer than I would expect to startup a program
[23:48] <tridentfish> and many more. I know my distro's. I have been in the seen about 3 year, less than a year active.
[23:48] <brightsparks> MirkoKa: nope. Can removing it increase available memory abit?
[23:48] <MirkoKa> Chax: how much RAM?
[23:48] <Draton> Hey guys - was just trying to run ubuntu on my new machine off of a usb drive, i assume i should still be able to install nvidia drivers? nothing in restricted drivers
[23:48] <cordoval> Guest35836: ping
[23:48] <cordoval> here
[23:48] <cordoval> hi Rusty
[23:48] <cordoval> here Sara
[23:48] <Chax> MirkoKa: 3 Gigs
[23:48] <DarwinSurvivor> cpruitt: ah, so a WEB developer! I was thinking c/python/etc developer :P
[23:49] <brightsparks> ok thanks guys.
[23:49] <cpruitt> DarwinSurvivor: yeah Rails mostly
[23:49] <MirkoKa> brightsparks: yes, a tiny bit
[23:49] <DarwinSurvivor> MirkoKa: his pastebin shows about 3GB
[23:49] <tridentfish> Rails lol that is fun to learn.
[23:49] <cpruitt> DarwinSurvivor: But I run my own server, not VPS so I really want to understand the nuts & bolts of what I'm doing.
[23:50] <DarwinSurvivor> cpruitt: how much server stuff do you *want* to know? If running your own server you really should know about basic networking and ipfilters as well as keeping it updated
[23:50] <cordoval> hi guys my friend Rusty Guest35836 is having some problems he also upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 and is having some errors trying to boot, can someone help please?
[23:51] <crond> cordoval, just ask the question, if someone can help, they will! :)
[23:51] <DarwinSurvivor> cordoval: someone just trying pining him and he didn't respond. we can't help someone that doesn't talk...
[23:51] <pepee> tridentfish, http://askubuntu.com/questions/49477/acer-aspire-5532-overheating
[23:51] <cpruitt> DarwinSurvivor: We'll I *want* to know it all, but I'm realistic.  I need to at least better understand the basics of security and the software I'm running for things like FTP and mail, etc… I don't like being nervous about changing config files because I don' know if something will break.
[23:51] <Draton> Anyone have an experience w/ a GTX 680 on ubuntu? Is the driver out/stable?
[23:51] <cordoval> he is typing what he sees on the screen options i think he is on recovery window
[23:52] <tohuw> cpruitt: Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
[23:52] <cordoval> however if he goes for mount all or something like that it is going to take him like 30 hours
[23:52] <Sm1th> Is there an open source version of vnc that is compatable with the enterprise version for windows?
[23:52] <cpruitt> Also, I need to be able to troubleshoot better.  My server crashes at least once a day for an unknown reason.  Suspect hardware but months of looking have yielded no results.  I just don't know enough to keep going.
[23:52] <cordoval> he has been doing that and nothing so i told him to reboot and ask here
[23:52] <DarwinSurvivor> cpruitt: ok, what I usually do is set up a headless server (like you have) and then also have a copy of everything running on a local (development) machine. try the changes on the local machine. if it works, copy the changes to the server.
[23:52] <tohuw> cpruitt: Have you checked dmesg?
[23:52] <DarwinSurvivor> !lamp | cpruitt
[23:52] <DarwinSurvivor> !iptables | cpruitt
[23:53] <DarwinSurvivor> cpruitt: start with those 2, then check out the docs for the other services (ftp, etc) that you are using
[23:53] <cpruitt> tohuw: Oh yeah… I've checked every log I can find, mucked about with GRUB settings, video drivers… the works.
[23:53] <cordoval> what happens if he hits ctrl+d?
[23:53] <cpruitt> DarwinSurvivor: Thanks
[23:53] <pepee> tridentfish, try this: sudo sh -c 'echo -n "enabled" > /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/mode'
[23:53] <elky> How do fonts get installed these days?
[23:54] <cpruitt> tohuw: Sometimes it reboots itself, other times it never comes back
[23:54] <DarwinSurvivor> cpruitt: if you are experiencing regular crashes, there is a HIGH probability it's the RAM. reboot and run memtest from grub
[23:54] <MirkoKa> elky:  copy them to your ~/.fonts directory, done
[23:55] <DarwinSurvivor> cpruitt: if you are new to servers, I would hold off on hosting a mail server until you are VERY comfortable. It's probably the most complicated service you can run on ubuntu!
[23:55] <ferencz> re
[23:55] <ferencz> re
[23:55] <AngrySpam> i love how ubuntu has 4 workspaces
[23:55] <zyltoid> which package is flash 64bit from adobe?
[23:55] <cpruitt> DarwinSurvivor: Yeah, I need to block off some down time to go to my data center for a memory test.  The weird thing is that I have another box that is exactly the same config but no hardware has been exchanged.  It does the exact same thing even when we tried a different linux distro.
[23:56] <AngrySpam> +1 loltroll
[23:56] <cpruitt> DarwinSurvivor: We don't host email.  Just apache / ftp at the moment.
[23:56] <cpruitt> We have a separate mail server for customers that want it.
[23:57] <tridentfish> DarwinSurvivor I thought IRC was a easy to use. I will probably skip it. Thank for the warning. lol
[23:57] <elky> MirkoKa, no system-wide option?
[23:58] <KM0201> tridentfish: irc is not easy to use?
[23:58] <JollySpam> yes it is
[23:59] <JollySpam> jsut type in the box and hit enter
[23:59] <MirkoKa> elky: copy them to a fitting (or own) directory in /usr/share/fonts if iÄm not mistaken, they will be picked up from there too (inotify is really cool^^)
[23:59] <KM0201> JollySpam: i'm not disputing that.. i'm trying to figure out why he thinks its difficult to use.
[23:59] <Menno> you can also drag 'n' drop to Ubuntu's font picker, can't you?
[23:59] <devinus> is noexec on a /var partition a good idea?
[23:59] <Menno> devinus: not for /var/tmp