| Xubuntu_dasads | hello | 03:43 |
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| pleia2 | knome: 698 followers! ;) | 03:50 |
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| pleia2 | 699! | 05:23 |
| Unit193 | I'm not one of them. | 05:24 |
| olbi | hello | 07:28 |
| olbi | I have installed xfce 4.10 pre2 from repo on launchpad and in session-menu I have hibernate, close etc as gray and can't click it | 07:28 |
| Unit193 | This isn't a support channel, hibernate was disabled in P, and 4.10Xfce isn't supported either. | 07:29 |
| olbi | grrr with hibernate :P it sometimes was helpful :) | 07:30 |
| Unit193 | You can reenable it, it's in the relnotes. | 07:32 |
| micahg | we should be getting 4.10 for quantal | 07:35 |
| olbi | I know it, but 12.04 is LTS :) | 07:52 |
| micahg | olbi: and 4.10 released 3 months late :) | 07:54 |
| micahg | LTS means bug/security support, not new versions | 07:55 |
| olbi | micahg: I know it, this is not good for the general reception but we should thx for so many good changes :) | 08:01 |
| ochosi | hi everyone | 08:09 |
| olbi | hello ochosi :) | 08:29 |
| olbi | I have 30 degrees in Lodz, Poland. How is yours? :) | 08:30 |
| knome | micahg, for the supportability of the lts, i was thinking if it made sense to SRU xfce 4.10 :P | 08:40 |
| Unit193 | With or without him killing you? And I already said it wasn't, you know you don't want to make me wrong. | 08:49 |
| knome | ;) | 08:51 |
| ochosi | olbi: 30 as wellhere | 08:53 |
| micahg | knome: not a chance :) | 08:53 |
| knome | micahg, really? why not ;) | 08:54 |
| micahg | I don't even think I'd approve a backport (or would at least have to think about it long and hard) | 08:54 |
| knome | start thinking :] | 08:57 |
| micahg | let's get the stack working in quantal first | 08:59 |
| knome | sure, but if you need a long think... better to start that now ;) | 09:00 |
| olbi | good that bluebird works good now :D | 09:10 |
| mr_pouit | o hai | 09:57 |
| knome | hey mr_pouit | 09:57 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: yeah, 4.10 in quantal | 09:57 |
| mr_pouit | and +1, not a chance for the big sru | 09:57 |
| knome | :| | 09:57 |
| knome | even if that helped the support burden? | 09:57 |
| mr_pouit | you need to update all xfce packages, that's a no-no | 09:58 |
| knome | k | 09:58 |
| knome | when is the final release of 4.10 in a PPA then :P | 09:59 |
| knome | people are asking for that *a lot* | 09:59 |
| mr_pouit | maybe today or tomorrow | 10:03 |
| mr_pouit | there's no new feature between pre2 and final... | 10:03 |
| mr_pouit | so people won't see anything new when they already have pre2 | 10:04 |
| mr_pouit | and there's still an upgrade issue I haven't cleared yet (in my ppa, apt will decide to hold back xfce4-session, xfce4-appfinder and xubuntu-desktop, no good) | 10:04 |
| knome | mr_pouit, yeah. but those who have not installed any ppa yet | 10:17 |
| knome | mr_pouit, stupid to point them to rc2 now and tell them it's going to change later :/ | 10:18 |
| mr_pouit | or they could wait and profit of 12.04 :} | 10:18 |
| Unit193 | ^ | 10:18 |
| knome | yeah, well... | 10:19 |
| knome | more people "voiding the warranty", less people to support... | 10:20 |
| knome | ;) | 10:20 |
| reon | Hi peoples | 10:20 |
| reon | Any idea when the 4.10 PPA will be populated? https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10 | 10:23 |
| knome | mr_pouit, as i said... stupid. | 10:24 |
| knome | reon, soon | 10:24 |
| reon | knome, :) I got itchy fingers and really keen to try it out. I'm considering building it from the tarballs but I would much rather just use a PPA. | 10:26 |
| mr_pouit | knome: I can already copy the pre2 packages to the xubuntu-dev ppa, eh | 10:27 |
| knome | mr_pouit, your choice - if you are sure that doesn't create any regressions, fine | 10:27 |
| mr_pouit | if I were be sure it didn't create any regression, it would have been in 12.04 :} | 10:30 |
| knome | heh, yeah... | 10:30 |
| mr_pouit | of course it will create regressions... | 10:30 |
| knome | heh :) | 10:30 |
| knome | in that case, don't | 10:30 |
| baizon | mr_pouit: why arent you upgrading your ppa from pre2 to final? :P | 10:31 |
| baizon | mr_pouit: ? | 10:35 |
| ochosi | oh dear, ubiquity just decided to hang after i pressed the "skip" button (it was downloading stupid language-packs for _ages_ ...) | 10:36 |
| * ochosi wonders what'll happen if i reboot now | 10:36 | |
| knome | baizon, because he has other things to work on? | 10:37 |
| baizon | ok :) | 10:37 |
| mr_pouit | i'm updating the debian packaging now for 4.10 final, then I'll restart my session to test, and then I'll backport that in my ppa | 10:39 |
| mr_pouit | (insert random bits of real life things between each step) | 10:39 |
| * knome inserts "step into a dog poo" | 10:40 | |
| baizon | mr_pouit: thanks for the info :) | 10:40 |
| reon | mr_pouit, which is your PPA? | 10:40 |
| baizon | reon: https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa | 10:40 |
| reon | Thx, will bookmark it and check it every hour :D | 10:41 |
| mr_pouit | knome: thanks :> | 10:41 |
| knome | mr_pouit, np! ;) (you said random...) | 10:41 |
| ochosi | grmpf, seems like (at least) my menu is borked | 10:50 |
| knome | ;) | 10:52 |
| ochosi | wondering whether i should just do another clean install | 10:52 |
| knome | heh | 10:53 |
| ochosi | i'm not really looking forward to fixing more random breakage | 10:53 |
| knome | ochosi, another clean install which you bork by pressing "skip" ? | 10:53 |
| ochosi | nope, one where i set up better/faster mirrors before installing... | 10:53 |
| knome | ;) | 10:54 |
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| knome | what's wrong with the person on #xubuntu ? | 22:13 |
| knome | is he totally drunk? | 22:13 |
| pleia2 | I was hoping for non-native speaker, but they're using a US ISP | 22:16 |
| pleia2 | so... ohio | 22:16 |
| knome | :| | 22:16 |
| ochosi | well who knows, there might be non-native speakers living in ohio as well... | 22:16 |
| knome | can somebody try another approach? | 22:16 |
| ochosi | knome: sry, you seem to have more energy for that then me (at least today) | 22:19 |
| knome | meh :) | 22:19 |
| knome | hi ochosi | 22:19 |
| ochosi | about albatross, i think it needs to be fixed "from scratch" (as in: like bluebird) | 22:20 |
| knome | yeah, but if there is a workaround for now, let's use that until we fix it | 22:20 |
| ochosi | and it was unfinished business anyway, so i'm not a big fan of applying a patch to something that i'll rewrite | 22:20 |
| ochosi | have you tested the patch? | 22:20 |
| knome | no, but can do later | 22:20 |
| ochosi | mkay | 22:21 |
| ochosi | i honestly haven't looked at it | 22:21 |
| ochosi | can probably do that later this week | 22:21 |
| ochosi | still have to set up a wiki-page for sean_d to work on the shortcuts-overlay | 22:21 |
| knome | yeah | 22:22 |
| ochosi | and i really don't like using the ubuntu-wiki for that, it's soo slow... | 22:22 |
| ochosi | (still) | 22:22 |
| ochosi | not sure i mentioned that already, but i think we should fork unity-greeter for 12.10 | 22:23 |
| knome | it's getting a bit better... | 22:23 |
| knome | discuss with madnick, i'm ok with it if it looks good | 22:24 |
| * pleia2 needs to set up a filter for xubuntu wiki alerts | 23:21 | |
| knome | mr_pouit, micahg: note that you are both assignees for including 4.10; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Goals/Quantal | 23:22 |
| knome | pleia2, sorry! ;) | 23:22 |
| pleia2 | :) | 23:22 |
| knome | mr_pouit, micahg: if you think this is wrong... fight with each other or find other assignees ;)) | 23:22 |
| knome | pleia2, you still there? | 23:44 |
| pleia2 | at work, so "sort of" | 23:46 |
| knome | heh, ok, a few quick Q's | 23:47 |
| knome | what do you think of listing only the supported releases at the wiki front, and pointing to wiki/Releases for the rest? | 23:47 |
| knome | also, do you think we can remove the "Get Involved!" -p from the wiki front, since it's mostly the same as in xubuntu.org? (everything except "you can join xubuntu-users on launchpad") | 23:48 |
| pleia2 | sounds good | 23:48 |
| pleia2 | maybe keep it and link to the website | 23:48 |
| knome | we do that already, but it's duplicating | 23:49 |
| pleia2 | ah, we do link it, just delete the rest | 23:49 |
| knome | maybe condense it a bit, then it'd be good ;) | 23:49 |
| knome | hehe, sure | 23:49 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 23:49 |
| pleia2 | For information on how to contribute, see the Get Involved page of our website. | 23:49 |
| knome | yeah. | 23:49 |
| knome | see the "banner" at the top pointing to community help wiki? | 23:50 |
| knome | what about adding another. | 23:50 |
| knome | for the link, i mean | 23:50 |
| pleia2 | oh sure | 23:50 |
| pleia2 | that sounds good | 23:50 |
| pleia2 | did you see pretty new help.ubuntu.com/community/ ? :) | 23:50 |
| pleia2 | they haz new theme | 23:50 |
| knome | ooh | 23:51 |
| knome | nice | 23:51 |
| knome | at least that's a bit better ;) | 23:51 |
| knome | did you see the updated http://xubuntu.org/help/ ? | 23:51 |
| pleia2 | they applied it about a week ago to help.ubuntu proper, I think it was just today that they put it on /community | 23:51 |
| knome | yeah, i think i've been hitting that site in a week and haven't seen that theme yet | 23:52 |
| pleia2 | I don't remember specifics of /help before (except there was an xchat menu screenshot) | 23:52 |
| knome | yeah, i condensed it quite a lot | 23:52 |
| pleia2 | good | 23:52 |
| knome | there was a huge paragraph on technical specifics of mailing lists... | 23:52 |
| knome | about (un)subscription and all | 23:52 |
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