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Barridusi'm enjoying 12.04 very much, thanks for your hard work (if anyone's here that was involved with it)00:07
GridCube:) they will know00:08
jarrettwquick question, I grabbed the 12.04 beta last week, what do I need to do to upgrade the final release?00:26
aguiteljarrettw, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade00:27
jarrettwcool will do00:27
jarrettwthanks!00:27
malv1i keep getting a checksum fail with xubuntu alternate 12.0401:12
GridCubehow do you get the file?01:13
malv1torrent01:14
malv1the iso md5 matches the website, but during installation it says that xorg-xserver-ati failed checksum01:14
Unit193I'd personally recommend you zsync the rest, but torrent should be good™01:14
Unit193Ah, wrong checksum./01:14
malv1well, like I said, the ISO passes the md5 test01:14
Barridusis there a keystroke to lock the screen?01:17
malv1ctrl alt delete01:18
Barriduslol is that real01:18
Mike-Linux-NLtest01:20
drcfail01:20
Mike-Linux-NLi commented on a thread on OMG ubuntu about the press release of Ubuntu 12.0401:24
Mike-Linux-NLhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/press-reaction-to-ubuntu-12-04-mostly-positive/#comment-51386170901:24
Barridusis it possible to change the lock screen image from the generic x-window flaming monitor to something else? XD01:27
Barridus(not sure what to call it)01:27
malv1does xubuntu work with efi at all?01:29
malv1anyone had success with usb + xubuntu 12.04 alternate 64-bit?01:37
malv1well, when I create the cd using ubuntu usb creator I don't get corruption of that file01:44
malv1another file reports corruption01:44
Mike-Linux-NLi always use Unetbootin01:46
Mike-Linux-NLworks like a charm01:46
Barridussame01:46
malv1i get the problem using unetbootin01:46
malv1corruption at the same spot01:46
Barridusi was gonna say that too, mike XD01:46
malv1tried two different ssd cards01:46
malv1is there a way to verify if an sd card is bad?01:48
Barridushmm, why is hibernation greyed out everywhere?  i prefer that to suspend01:53
Unit193How much ram compared to swap do you have?01:55
Barridus1gb ram, i think i set the swap to 2gb01:57
Barridushmmm01:58
Barridusi'm looking in gparted, the swap is shown as "unknown"01:59
Unit193https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Common_Infrastructure01:59
Barridusah that explains it, thanks Unit19302:01
Unit193Sure thing.02:01
Barridusgonna test it and re-enable it (if it works)02:02
Barridusand, it didn't XD02:05
malv1wow, I think it installed this time02:08
Unit193All else fails and you can use the !mini02:08
Barridus!mini02:10
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD02:10
Barridussuspend's always worried me02:11
Barridusis it still safe to throw in a laptop bag like hibernate is?  (that's why i've always hibernated)02:11
Unit193I suspend mine, but it's in a docking station due to screen being fudged.02:12
Barridusi mean if this was stationary, i wouldn't worry about it02:14
Barridusi'd like to avoid shutting it down completely because dropbox takes forever to fire up02:15
Barridusoh well i'll live02:17
malv1ubuntu is the flakiest OS Ive ever used. I attempted to install the ati proprietary through jockey, and for whatever reason it failed. Now my system is unbootable.02:49
malv1*sigh*02:49
malv1cant even boot into recovery mode02:49
rolesphello all03:23
fernando_hi03:42
=== fernando_ is now known as Xubuntu_dasads
Xubuntu_dasadsdassd03:43
Xubuntu_dasadssomebody?03:43
pleia2Xubuntu_dasads: if you're looking to chat, you're welcome to join #xubuntu-offtopic03:49
pleia2otherwise this is a support channel :) so you can just ask your question03:49
Xubuntu_dasadsah OK03:50
Xubuntu_dasadsthen I ask03:50
Xubuntu_dasadsI'm having problems in Xubutu using ssh tunnels03:50
Xubuntu_dasadsI use ssh -Lxx:local_server:xx -p yy user@remote_server03:51
Xubuntu_dasadsthats how I create a persistant connection to connec to anothe local computer in that network03:51
* pleia2 nods03:52
Xubuntu_dasadsso when I conect to the local server in that network on another terminal it stucks after some secconds03:52
Xubuntu_dasadsso the tunnel ssh connection is lost03:53
pleia2does it work before it gets stuck?03:53
Xubuntu_dasadsnop03:53
Xubuntu_dasadsIt freezes the terminal03:53
Xubuntu_dasadsI dont have that problem in ubuntu03:53
Xubuntu_dasadsonly in xubuntu03:53
pleia2so it doesn't get stuck, it just doesn't establish the tunnel03:53
Xubuntu_dasadsnono03:53
Xubuntu_dasadsit establish the tunnel03:54
Xubuntu_dasadsI can connect to a local IP in that network03:54
Xubuntu_dasadsbut only for some secconds03:54
pleia2so it does work before it gets stuck?03:54
Xubuntu_dasadsyeap03:54
pleia2might want to try keepalive in your ssh config03:55
Xubuntu_dasadslet me see03:55
pleia2I have this in mine: ServerAliveInterval 18003:55
pleia2just at the top of ~/.ssh/config03:55
pleia2I don't need it for most servers I ssh into, but some have some annoying firewalls that like to shut down connections03:56
pleia2if that doesn't work, you can try debugging by adding the -vvv flags to your ssh command03:56
Xubuntu_dasadsI think is not firewall issue cause Ubuntu keeps the connection alive always03:56
Xubuntu_dasadsits only when I try connecting on Xubuntu03:57
pleia2sorry, that was just an example03:57
pleia2there are a lot of reasons a keepalive may help03:57
pleia2good luck03:57
Xubuntu_dasadsI'm trying that config03:57
Xubuntu_dasadsthanks03:57
Xubuntu_dasads:D03:57
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Cyberacid2 minutes and counting04:05
Cyberacid;)04:05
Cyberacidlooks like it gets fixed04:07
rolespwhere I can check screen config, resolution and refresh rate?04:07
CyberacidThanks very much pleia04:07
Cyberacidgo to config manager04:08
Cyberacidscreen section04:08
rolespcant find there04:08
pleia2Cyberacid: great!04:08
Cyberacid;D04:08
rolespok, my fault, founded04:09
Cyberacid:P04:09
xubuntu995Hello, anyone around?04:20
holstein!ask | xubuntu99504:22
ubottuxubuntu995: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:22
xubuntu995So I upgraded to precise recently and video thumbnails are no longer generated04:23
xubuntu995Thumbnails from 11.10 persist in the thumbnail cache but all new files (and renamed old files) will no longer get a thumbnail04:24
holsteinin thunar?04:25
xubuntu995I suspect it's trying to generate a thumbnail because when  browse a network share with some videos on it, network usage spikes up04:25
xubuntu995Yes04:25
xubuntu995Image thumbnails still work04:25
xubuntu995E.g. making a copy of a jpg will generate a thumbnail for the new file04:26
StarkHi guys04:29
StarkAnyone successfully installed Xubuntu on a laptop with WiFi on?04:30
holsteinStark: i have used xubuntu with wifi...and othe buntu's04:30
StarkHey holstien, what kind of laptop did you use04:31
holsteinStark: several04:31
holsteinStark: quite a few04:31
StarkGoing try kubuntu later... on HP Folio04:32
StarkXubuntu got some issues04:32
holsteinits not so much "what kind of laptop", its more about the chipset of the wifi devcie04:32
holsteinStark: nah.. you're device might not be supported well in linux04:32
StarkNot sure if Intel or Broadcom lol04:33
holsteinStark: you'll find out04:35
holsteinStark: you can always use the windows driver too...04:35
StarkSo, you tested all of them? Which one better? I heard Kubuntu will stop at 12.0404:35
xubuntu995holstein: So video thumbnails work for you?04:36
holsteinxubuntu995: i havent checked04:38
holsteinxubuntu995: i dont really use xubuntu like that04:39
holsteinStark: kubuntu is not going anywehre04:39
xubuntu995Well it's pretty eays, just download a video file and see if thunar gets a thumbnail :)04:39
StarkOk so the only choice left would be Xubuntu or Ubuntu lol04:40
holsteinxubuntu995: i dont have it in front of me right now, if thats ok04:40
holsteinxubuntu995: i dont recall any issues ith thumbails04:40
holsteinxubuntu995: you are welcome to wait here though and see if anyone else shares your issue, or has a fix04:40
holsteinxubuntu995: i would suggest making a new user account, logging in, and seeing if the situation is the same04:41
holsteinxubuntu995: this will help you deterimine if its a config isue04:41
holsteinissue*04:41
holsteinStark: ?04:41
xubuntu995I doubt  it's that because it affects multiple computers04:41
holsteinStark: there's ubuntu with whatever DE you like... LXDE or unity or XFCE.. whatever..04:41
holsteinlubuntu = ubuntu with LXDE for example..04:42
StarkIt's alright. I'll just use whatever works to my laptop.04:42
holsteinxubuntu995: i would agree, thought i didnt realize this was happnening on multuple machines04:42
xubuntu995In 11.10 thumbnails had problems without installing the tumbler-plugins-extra package but that didn't fix anything here04:43
StarkWoot, the battery power manager doesn't update precisely...04:43
holsteinxubuntu995: i would still try with a live CD just to take you out of the equation04:44
xubuntu896whoops, closed the wrong window04:48
xubuntu896Anyway, i'll just load the livecd in a VM04:49
rolesp\quit04:52
xubuntu896Yup it doesn't work04:58
xubuntu896Even after install tumbler-plugins-extra04:59
holsteinmaybe thats been dropped from thunar04:59
xubuntu896That's really silly04:59
xubuntu896Considering that just added thumbnail support to the desktop05:00
holsteinxubuntu896: wel, its allegedly silly05:00
holsteinxubuntu896: im just speculating05:00
xubuntu896I also see huge network activity when browsing network shares with videos05:00
xubuntu896So it's definitely reading the files05:00
xubuntu896I guess I can run perf and see what it's actually trying to do05:00
xubuntu896So it might be trying to use gstreamer to read the files05:07
xubuntu896Which would explain the problem05:07
xubuntu896I think the old backend used ffmpeg05:08
xubuntu896Yea, looks like debian maintainers switched over to05:19
xubuntu896gstreamer as per recommendation from upstream in october05:19
xubuntu896Which explains why it used to work and now doesn't05:19
xubuntu896Great, so either I can rebuild tumbler with ffmpeg support or figure out how to make gstreamer understand h264. Excellent.05:22
xubuntu896Oh, thankfully there's a ffmpeg backend for gstreamer. YAY05:26
yell0whey guys how do i change the color of the active tab in xfce4-terminal ?05:50
twilson_When upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 the download of a particular package failed midway. Now my installation is stalled and there's no way to prod it back into action, should I ctrl c?05:53
twilson_It says: Ctrl-c pressed This will abort the operation and may leave the system in a broken state. Are you sure you want to do this?05:53
yell0wtwilson_: are you upgrading from the terminal ?05:54
twilson_There is a terminal in the Distribution Upgrade window05:54
twilson_I'm using that05:54
yell0wif it's in the middle of downloading then i don't think anything's updated/installed yet05:55
yell0wi think you can cancel it and restart05:55
yell0wit'll pick up from where it left off i believe05:55
twilson_well I guess that's my only option05:55
yell0wyou should have the downloaded .deb's in /var/cache/apt05:56
yell0w/var/cache/apt/archives actually :)05:56
twilson_yeah05:57
yell0wis the upgrade restated ?05:57
yell0wrestarted*05:57
twilson_no ctrl c didn't abort anything06:00
yell0wjust close the upgrade window and restart the upgrade06:00
twilson_There's no close button06:01
twilson_I'm going to to have to kill the process06:01
yell0wthat'd work06:02
twilson_so that worked, it killed the dropbox download and now it's continuing with the rest06:02
twilson_and I doubt that anything else depends on dropbox so it should be ok06:03
yell0wcool :)06:03
yell0wtwilson_: do you know how to change the color of the active tab in xfce4-terminal ?06:03
twilson_no, sorry06:05
well_laid_lawnthere's colour choices in the preference dialog for the terminal06:06
yell0werhm there's only choices for text,curosr,background and tab activity06:07
yell0wthere's none for active tab color06:07
twilson_you probably need to adjust the current xubuntu theme somehow06:08
yell0wthe active tab right now is a bit lighter color than the rest, so i think there's a setting somewhere06:08
yell0wbut it's very light difference and i can't really distinguish much06:08
yell0wso it's the theme ?06:08
twilson_seeing as tabs colours are the same for all xubuntu tabs, and not specific to terminal06:08
twilson_I'd say so yes06:09
SandJI logged into Xubuntu 11.10 using the "Xfce Session" option out of curiosity.  Now, when I go in using "Xubuntu Session" the panel over-lays part of the desktop, windows have no titlebar, I can't type in a Terminal session, Windows overlay the Panel, Alt-Tab doesn't work, etc.    How do I get my Xubuntu working properly again?07:59
SysiSandJ: alt F2 "xfwm4 --replace"08:00
Sysiand fix for next login, rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions08:00
SandJ@Sysi: Thank you.08:10
koegsis there a ppa for xfce 4.10 final?08:18
StarkAnyone using Arch08:19
koegsStark: maybe you can ask in #xubuntu-offtopic08:20
StarkOk, anyone solved the wifi issue on laptop?08:21
cousteau`nbkThe xubuntu 12.04 64b live CD won't boot on this machine09:10
cousteau`nbkit's a 64b machine, when booting (after the splash screen) I get a screen with something that looks like dmesg and it freezes there; it doesn't even allow me to Alt-SysRq-REISUB09:11
cousteau`nbkmaybe some graphics card issue?09:11
cousteau`nbk(disk MD5 is ok)09:12
cousteau`nbk(well, at least the ISO is ok...  maybe there was a record error)09:12
cousteau`nbklast messages are (newer to older):  system_call_fastpath, sys_init_module, do_one_initcall, nouveau_init, ? 0xffffffffa0173fff, ? vga_switcheroo_register_handler. drm_pci_init, __pci_register_driver, driver_register ...09:15
SysiI'd try with another disk, or usb09:15
cousteau`nbkany idea?  tried Ctrl-Alt-F1 to F12 with no success09:15
cousteau`nbkI could check the disk...  but I don't have a computer with Linux and a CD drive09:16
cousteau`nbkwait...  I think I do09:16
cousteau`nbkdamn, the only computer with linux here is password-protected (and I don't know the password)09:19
cousteau`nbkthe CD should work, I tried it at home09:20
cousteau`nbkany way to MD5 a CD from Windows?09:22
knomecousteau`nbk, http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/09:22
cousteau`nbkdoes it work for CDs?  (keep in mind this doesn't have /dev/cdrom)09:24
knomeright, i don't know09:27
xubuntu331Hello!09:27
xubuntu331quick question09:28
xubuntu331I just got the notification from the update manager for ubuntu 12.0409:28
xubuntu331to update to 12.0409:28
xubuntu331should I download the update via the manager09:28
xubuntu331or via the website09:28
xubuntu331?09:28
xubuntu331as it said its an update for ubuntu not xubuntu09:28
knomeit says it's for ubuntu, but it will upgrade xubuntu09:29
cousteau`nbkhmm,  I typed "md5 cd windows" on duck duck go and got an MD5 of something...09:29
knomeiirc that's even in the release notes09:29
xubuntu331ah! right09:29
xubuntu331thanks! :)09:29
xubuntu331Have a good day09:29
knomenp09:29
knomeyou too09:29
cousteau`nbkdoes the *ubuntu cd come with some sort of disk checker for Windows?09:30
knomewhat do you mean with disk checker?09:31
* cousteau`nbk tries "Check disc defects"09:32
knomeright, yeah, that should be good too09:32
* cousteau`nbk gets exactly the same "error" as before: sorta like a dmesg09:32
knomedirectly when you start checking, or a bit later?09:33
cousteau`nbkinteresting...  when I press a key, the NumLock LED blinks09:33
cousteau`nbkknome, directly when I select the option and hit enter09:33
knomemmh :/09:33
* cousteau`nbk checks BIOS options09:34
cousteau`nbkmaybe some sort of "free software protection"...  how do I check if the computer has something like that?  (UEFI or something alike)09:35
cousteau`nbkcan I run the live CD in some sort of fail-safe mode?09:36
knomethere is the safe mode graphics, but that doesn't help if the disc has defects09:37
knomeand it doesn't help if you don't have problems with graphics09:37
knomeor wait09:37
knomethat's only alternate09:37
knome:P09:37
knomeUnit193, halp09:37
knome:P09:38
* cousteau`nbk tries on another computer and AARGH it booted directly to Win XP09:40
Unit193https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootParameters not that, right?09:41
* cousteau`nbk checks09:42
cousteau`nbkguess what, the "other computer" is a 32b one09:42
* cousteau`nbk angry09:42
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cousteau`nbkhey, acpi=off noaic nolapic seems to work!09:46
cousteau`nbkno idea what that means, though...09:47
cousteau`nbk"If the boot parameter options worked for you, you will need to make permanent changes in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst after the installation has completed."09:48
cousteau`nbkye olde menu.lst...  nostalgia kicks in09:48
Unit193/etc/defualt/grub09:49
Unit193Only spell it right.09:49
knome:P09:49
cousteau`nbk"Check finished: no errors found"09:50
cousteau`nbkok09:50
cousteau`nbk"Press any key to reboot your system"09:50
cousteau`nbkwhere's that key?  (hurr hurr)09:50
Unit193Top left, but not esc.09:52
cousteau`nbkjust curious, what do acpi=off, noapic and nolapic do?  link?09:53
* cousteau`nbk uses ddg.gg09:54
Sysiyou don't necessarily need all of them09:55
cousteau`nbkyeah, I tried all of them and it worked...  was going to try with just one of them, but I don't know which one(s) should I choose09:56
cousteau`nbkacpi=off seems to be enough09:59
cousteau`nbkbut I don't get the fancy splash!  only the text one10:00
cousteau`nbkhmm...  getting a black screen now...  but it seems to work10:02
cousteau`nbkoh, here it goes10:02
cousteau`nbkugliest resolution ever, but it works10:03
cousteau`nbkstep 2:  install drivers (can this be done on a live cd session?)10:05
foobArrrwhat does xfce4-settings-helper do exactly?10:06
Unit193xfce4-settings-helper - Settings daemon for Xfce10:09
cousteau`nbkhmm, screen settings claims I'm using a refresh rate of 0.0 Hz10:09
cousteau`nbkbut it seems to go faster10:09
cousteau`nbkI mean, I see frames...  more than 110:09
f0xhow can i install xfce 4.1010:28
baizonf0x: ppa will be released soon10:29
knomef0x, any specific reason why you want to upgrade?10:30
f0xwhy does medit have issues with shortcuts in 12.0410:30
f0xused it in 11.10 and worked okay10:30
tgagreetings10:44
tgaI installed xfce on a clean 12.04 system and I seem to have trouble with my keyboard layout10:44
Unit193Howdy.10:44
tgait looks like US everywhere but it's a Dutch layout10:45
tgaI did choose the Netherlands as location when installing10:45
tgaXkbLayout is US, the Keyboard pane shows 102-key US10:45
tgaany hints on finding and changing the actual keyboard layout?10:46
tgahm, nm, think I fixed it10:47
tgathanks, this place is good inspiration10:47
knomenaturally10:48
tgaI messed with the keyboard layout, changed it a few times10:48
tgawent back to what I had before and now it works10:48
* tga shrugs10:48
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tgacheers11:02
tomreynhi, i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 the other day and now i get this notification icon (a letter with a small number printed on a black circle on the bottom right) whenever i change the audio volume. when you click on this icon, a list of notifications shows up, in this case telling me that the adio volume is now at xx percent. which is a rather useless  presentation of this kind of information.13:25
tomreynhow can i get rid of this notification icon?13:25
tomreyni have XFCE configured to "load the Gnome runtime environment" when starting up, maybe that's related.13:27
twotenI upgraded to xubuntu 12.04 and now my wireless won't work - I'm trying to run ifconfig up but I get Unknown Device for every variation of wlan and wlan0 etc14:28
twotenwhat should I do?14:28
foobArrrmy keyboard shortcuts don't work anymore since upgrading to 12.04. only Print and <Alt>Print work, others (predefined and my own shortcuts) don't work.15:02
foobArrrno ubuntu upgrade brought as much trouble for me as 11.10 -> 12.04 :/15:04
SysifoobArrr: are your shortcuts involving Ctrl?15:05
foobArrrno, Super15:05
foobArrrwell, ctrl + escape doesn't work ether15:06
junix659i'm running security onion to test out some of the features, but I want to get ntop installed.  Is there a newer version nTop available for Xubuntu??15:06
SysifoobArrr: do you see change in keykodes if you remap some of them?15:07
foobArrrchange in keycodes?15:08
Sysiin keyboard settings you can see which keys have commands been bind to, if for example Ctrl is changed to Primary by xorg update, they stop working15:09
foobArrrI'm not sure if I understand what you mean. I tried setting them again, setting them to <Alt> instead of <Super>, both didn't work.15:11
MarzatafoobArrr: you talk about changing layouts, right?15:14
foobArrrMarzata: no15:14
foobArrrI'm talking about "Application Shortcuts"15:15
MarzatafoobArrr: ah, ok15:16
foobArrrI was wrong, the screenshot keys don't work either, they just make the screen / window flash white15:16
foobArrrwrong again, they do work. but the don't give me the xfce screenshot dialog, they directly store a screenshot in ~/Pictures15:18
* foobArrr is confused15:18
xubuntu044$15:29
foobArrrcompiz commands doesn't work either15:32
italomaiaHi folks!15:33
italomaiaI'm having trouble umounting my drives in xubuntu 12.0415:34
martinphoneme too italomaia15:34
italomaiaanyone had the same problem? I plug my pendrive and than I can't umount it15:34
martinphoneI have to use nautilus to unmount safely15:35
italomaianautilus?15:35
martinphonedo you?15:35
italomaiamartinphone, well, if i just wait enough time, it umounts eventually15:35
martinphonealt+f2 nautilus15:35
italomaiathis could be a bug15:35
martinphonethats odd italomaia15:36
martinphoneit unmounts by itself?15:36
italomaiaI don't have nautilus here15:36
italomaiano. I umount it manually.15:36
martinphoneyou mean you unplug it...15:36
italomaiaNo, a really umount it than unplug15:37
italomaia*then15:37
martinphoneterminal15:37
italomaiano, through thunar15:37
italomaiaI think tumblerd is related to the issue. lsof says tumblr is creating thumbs15:38
tomreynhi, i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 the other day and now i get this notification icon (a letter with a small number printed on a black circle on the bottom right) whenever i change the audio volume. when you click on this icon, a list of notifications shows up, in this case telling me that the adio volume is now at xx percent. which is a rather useless  presentation of this kind of information. how can i get rid of this notification icon?15:39
tomreyni have XFCE configured to "load the Gnome runtime environment" when starting up, maybe that's related.15:39
foobArrrthe shortcuts in unity -> system settings -> keyboard work Oo15:40
italomaiaYap, the issue is related to tumblerd15:42
foobArrrI think I'll restore 11.10 backups *sigh*15:58
oxic`was 12.04 disasterous? =o i've seen issues, the classic bug with keyb psysical keys for volume mute (which could not be unmuted using these psy. buttons) are still present.16:01
oxic`damn developers! ^^16:01
oxic`also, the issue with note/netbooks and three-finger-tap to rightclick, still not functioning like as desired =/16:02
oxic`only these two issues i've got, so far.16:02
drcoxic`: That's funny...I found the mute/unmute problem on my laptop with 11.10, but NOT with 12.04 :)16:02
oxic`drc: oh, it was fixed w/ your 12.04? =o nice, gotta check one more time then.16:03
drcWFM (tm) :)16:03
drcThe only problem I'm having with 12.04 is the old "first opening of thunar takes forever".16:06
italomaiaI had issues with tumblerd blocking my usb devices16:15
soreauhey guys I'm trying to use alacarte to install a launch to the menu. Works fine exact the icon. The icon shows up in alacarte but not the menu. I tried restarting xfce4-panel but it didn't help. Does the icon need to be a certain size?16:17
mipsHow does one change the menu layout?17:39
xuserxis xfce 4.10 available for download now?18:14
xubuntu440hi18:14
baizonxuserx: no18:14
xubuntu440can anyone helme18:14
xubuntu440help me18:14
baizon!ask xubuntu44018:15
xubuntu440i instaled 12.04 recently18:15
baizon!ask | xubuntu44018:15
ubottuxubuntu440: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:15
xubuntu440i am not able to double press any key button18:15
xubuntu440i need to give half second time delay to use same key again18:16
xubuntu440if i want to type tree, i need to give half sec time delay betwen tre(halfsec)e18:17
xubuntu440are you ther?18:17
xubuntu440anybody looking answer?18:18
xubuntu297hello18:20
xubuntu440hi18:21
baizonxubuntu440: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/keyboard18:21
xubuntu297can install xubuntu to a mac powerbook g418:21
xubuntu297without mac os18:21
xubuntu440tnk u18:21
xubuntu440baizon i will try now18:21
baizonnp18:21
xubuntu297hello18:22
xubuntu297is it possible to install xubuntu in a mac powerbook g418:22
xubuntu297without mac os18:22
baizonxubuntu297: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3kZ4Gw7-fs18:23
xubuntu297where can i download a copy18:23
baizonso as you can see it is possible :)18:23
xubuntu297will the i386 work18:24
baizonxubuntu297: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ18:28
baizonthere you have all the infos18:28
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nishttal2does xubuntu use metacity?18:44
nishttal2window decorator?18:44
baizonnishttal2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181970818:46
nishttal2where do i put startup applications?19:18
aguiteli installed compiz but no windows decoration have19:19
baizonnishttal2: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/preferences19:20
arminkhow do I turn off display mirroring on xubuntu? do the xfce settings really have no option for that? no way around (x/a/lx/foo)randr?19:20
baizonarmink: indeed no support from xfce yet19:21
baizonim usind arandr19:21
arminkk, thx19:22
nishttal2baizon.. thanks19:28
baizonnp19:28
nishttal2the terminals in xubuntu do not have saved profiles like ubuntu?19:29
arminknishttal2, I don't think so, but I don't know for sure. using gnome-terminal on xubuntu should not be a problem, though.19:33
aguiteli want to delete some item in application menu ,how i do it?19:36
drcApplications Menu>Settings>Main Menu19:37
aguiteldrc, i not found in menu19:38
drcaguitel: what version are you running?19:39
aguiteldrc, 4.819:40
aguiteli installed freenet and i want to delete it19:40
drcwhat version of Xubuntu?19:40
aguitel12.0419:41
aguiteldrc, i did19:41
aguitelthanks19:41
drcok19:41
aguitelthis is what i try :https://freenetproject.org/19:42
hydesteranybody solve the problem with the speakers still working when headphones plugged in?  i thoguht i resolved this back pre-12.04, but now it is broken again.  tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860789 without any luck19:48
astraljavaHow did you resolve it before? It's always possible there's a regression.19:50
hydesterastraljava: trying to dig up my notes .. :(19:50
GridCubehydester, pavucontrol doesnt let you choose what output goes with with?19:51
hydesterGridCube: all i see is port "Speakers"19:53
GridCubemmm19:53
hydesteri'm pretty sure it was via some config file manually associating volumeup/volumedown commands20:02
n2diyhow can I tell what is using my swap memory?20:05
hydestern2diy: free -m20:06
hydesteroh, what20:07
n2diyhydester, that tells me how much is being used, which I know, I'm curious what is using it.20:08
nishttal2i installed gnome-terminal.. where would be the launcher for that ?20:13
knomenishttal2, most probably under 'accessories'20:14
astraljavaTerminals are always fun to chase around the menu structures.20:14
nishttal2knome nope i dont see it20:14
astraljavaIn KDE that'd probably be in System > 'something', I forget which.20:14
knomenishttal2, i'm pretty sure that's where it should appear20:14
nishttal2knome, its not there.. i can launch one from terminal emulator20:15
foobArrr it's not there for me either20:16
knomemaybe it's showonlyin=GNOME :P20:17
rolespI have a problem with this machine under 12.04, at boot needs to press scape and from the grub menu kernel recovery option20:18
rolespif not I have only a black screen20:18
rolespafter that i works ok, but if rebott have to do the same20:20
nishttal2knome, is it possible to change the "Open terminal here" command in right click to open gnome-terminal?20:20
knomenishttal2, yeah, edit -> configure custom actions20:21
knomei'm not sure where you specifically need gnome-terminal though20:21
nishttal2edit?20:21
knomenishttal2, edit from a thunar window20:21
knomebut looks like the launcher is just exo20:21
knomeso changing the default terminal emulator should work20:22
foobArrrhow do I change the keyboard layout system-wide?20:22
nishttal2ok you lost me :(20:22
knomenishttal2, settings manager -> preferred applications -> tab utilities20:22
knomenishttal2, change the terminal emulator in that dialog, and the right-click menu should follow what you set there20:22
nishttal2knome.. trying now20:23
foobArrrnevermind, got it20:24
nishttal2knome, worked .. thanks :)20:25
knomenp20:25
nishttal2how do i connect to a FTP server? in Ubuntu there was a menu item to do that20:29
hydesternishttal2: the command is called "ftp"20:30
rolespHow i can save my actual video configuration?20:31
hydesternishttal2: but you can just go to "Ubuntu Software Center" and search for ftp for a gui client20:31
hydesternishttal2: filezilla has a lot of stars20:32
rolespWhere to find the jockey drivers?20:37
liznevadahai guise20:41
rolesphow to configure an ATI video card using jockey?20:42
liznevadai have a 60GB partition for install xubuntu and i want to separate /home,  which is the minimum for / partition?20:51
liznevadahow many GB?20:51
knomei've used 5.6GB on my /20:51
nishttal2is there a way to mount FTP folders ?20:52
knomenishttal2, try gigolo20:52
nishttal2oh ok20:52
knomerolesp, you can't configure drivers with jockey, only install20:53
nishttal2knome, i am able to connect but its showing me the FTP directories in chrome..20:56
knomenishttal2, afaik ftp:// links should work in thunar after that20:57
knomebut i haven't used gigolo myself20:57
rolespknome, ok, then i need to instal the ati propietary drivers?20:57
knomerolesp, what is your problem? what do you want to achieve?20:58
liznevadacuz, man i find this laptop in a dumpster, and old Vaio VGN, and it had win xp but the was SLOW as *ell, i reinstall and it continue to behave slow.20:58
knomeliznevada, it depends much how many apps you want to install, and how sure you want to be that the space doesn't run out.20:58
liznevadai just try xubuntu and it literally fly20:58
liznevadaits for my little sister20:59
knomesomething like 8GB is probably really safe20:59
liznevadai guess 10GB its ok right?20:59
knomeyeah, that shouldn't be even close21:00
nishttal2knome, thunar is the nautilus for xubuntu?21:00
knomenishttal2, yes, the "file manager", as some of us call it21:00
rolespI have a problem with this machine under 12.04, at boot needs to press scape and from the grub menu kernel recovery option21:00
knomerolesp, does it show any error?21:00
nishttal2I am not seeing the FTP folder i just connected to in gigolo21:00
nishttal2oh.. i selected toolbar style selector and am good21:01
nishttal2thanks21:01
knomenp21:02
liznevadai dont get why somebody would trash a working laptop21:02
rolespnot after all it shows whit some options one is proced to normal boot21:03
knomerolesp, is it a laptop?21:03
rolespand then it works ok21:03
rolespbut if I restart have to do the same21:04
rolespnot is a desktop 775 2.6 proc 512 ram21:04
rolespknome, i just installed the ati driver from the software center, but it doesn show under other controllers21:16
rolespmaybe i need to reboot21:17
rolespbbl21:21
pooltablehelp how do i get the xfce to re set my chazilla window is lock and show the desk top does not work?21:28
Myrttipleia2: I don't think the problem is whether it's PAE kernel or not, it's if it's 486 or 58621:34
Myrttibut I have no idea about kernels or all this so I have no idea21:34
knomeMyrtti, see -ops-team21:35
pleia2Myrtti: ah, ok21:35
pooltablehow to re set up xfce?21:55
knomepooltable, can you be more specific?21:56
pooltableok well on click on show desk top it does not work22:01
pooltablei can not see the firefox x or resize box22:01
knomepooltable, what click on desktop? what does not work?22:01
pooltablei can not see the top of the console22:01
knomepooltable, press alt+f2 and run 'xfwm'22:02
knomepooltable, sorry, 'xfwm4' (without the quotes)22:02
pooltableknome22:02
pooltablethat does not work22:02
knomexfwm4 or xfwm ?22:03
knomedid you try running compiz?22:03
knomedid you enable the root account?22:03
pooltablealt f222:03
pooltablehow do i do compiz?22:04
knomeno, don't, i was just asking if you did22:04
pooltable\no22:04
knomedo you have a terminal window opwn?22:04
pooltableyes but i do not see the top of it22:04
pooltableclr22:04
pooltableclr22:05
knomeokay, in the terminal window type 'xfwm4 &' (without the quotes, and press enter/return22:05
pooltablei try to tpye xfwm4&22:05
knomenote that there is a space before the &-sign22:05
pooltableno it not working right what i type i only type here22:06
pooltablehi22:06
knomewhat is not working?22:07
pooltableok i try to click on console but when i type it type here  not there22:07
knomecan you access the applications menu?22:08
pooltableyes22:08
knomecan you see a menu entry that says "Run Program..." ?22:09
pooltableyes22:09
knomeclick that, and type 'xfwm4' in the text area (without the quotes again), and click run22:10
pooltablexfce4-settings-manager22:10
knome?22:11
pooltableit will not let me backspace so just run that ?22:11
knomeno, you need to run xfwm422:12
knomeif you can select all the text with the mouse, do that, and start typing the new command22:13
pooltableit does not let me type in that box ?22:14
pooltableok copy and paset now what22:14
knomepress run22:14
pooltablei got the setting up22:14
knomewhat setting?22:15
pooltableok now it is not doing a think ?22:16
pooltablething22:16
knomedid you run 'xfwm4' ?22:17
pooltableyes22:17
knomeif that didn't work, try running 'xfwm4 --replace' (again without quotes)22:17
pooltablewhat does it do ?22:17
knomeit should restart xfwm, and that should re-enable your window borders22:18
pooltableok sorry how do i know if it work ?22:18
pooltableand thanks for all the help22:18
knomeif it works, window borders will appear immediately22:18
knomeif not, try the other command i gave you22:18
pooltableok thanks what cause it that ?22:19
knomedid it work?22:20
pooltableyes22:20
knomeok, good22:20
knomei do not know what caused the error22:20
pooltableok22:20
pooltablei will wright a text file for next time22:21
pooltablealso how to change the desk top?22:21
manitoujust testing xubuntu on aspire S3 , and i can say it works well22:22
knomewhat do you mean with "change the desktop" ?22:22
knomemanitou, good to hear22:22
pooltableyes22:22
pooltablehellow?22:25
knomepooltable, please re-read the question22:25
pooltableknome change the desktop yes22:26
knomepooltable, re-read22:26
pooltableknome like to change the desktop image please?22:26
Myrttithe background?22:27
Myrtti"wallpaper"?22:27
pooltablemyrtti yes22:27
pooltablemyrtti sorry what the difference?22:27
Myrttipooltable: between background and wallpaper? nothing.22:27
pooltablemyrtti ok then how please?22:28
Myrttibut "change the desktop" can mean anything between changing the wallpaper, changing virtual workspaces and changing desktop environments22:28
Myrttiwhich is why knome asked for a clarification22:28
pooltablemyrtti change the image backround22:30
Myrttiwhat have you tried so far?22:30
pooltablemyrtti ok well i go to desktop settings and the plus button the image i what is there but it is not working right now?22:32
pooltablealso how get the console to show up right it is all black?22:33
pooltableok the console is all black i do not see the system name at all how to fix?22:38
knomepooltable, right-click -> preferences -> colors -> set background color to something else than black22:39
Barridusi periodically get a "login keyring didn't unlock" prompt asking for my login password, how do i get rid of this forever?22:43
pooltableknome thanks got the console fix sill trying to get the desktop image to change22:43
knomepooltable, if you have the image on your hard drive, navigate to the folder with thunar (the file manager), right-click and press "set as wallpaper"22:44
pooltableknome got it to work thanks22:46
pooltablefor all the help22:46
knomeno problem22:46
* Barridus is listening to: Mike Birbiglia – I'm a Bear, Etc. [Sleepwalk With Me - Live]; [01:40/06:19]22:59
Barridusopps, sorry22:59
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lapsusbrutusAnyone used kioskmode in xfce? kioskrc config on [xfce4-panel] is: CustomizePanel=NONE,   Still anybody can remove things on panels, and even panels.  Would this be a bug, or me=lolfail?23:37
liznevadadude, the Software Center of Xubuntu make me jelly for using Fedora23:48
P-ChanOlá amiguinhos do bem... como adciono aquele aplicativo que formata pen-drive com o botão direito?23:56
lapsusbrutusP-Chan: fdisk and mkfs.vfat is nice23:57
P-Chanlapsusbrutus: sorry. this is a english chat23:58
P-Chanlapsusbrutus: I use Gparted but in UBUNTU version has a tool format pen drive23:58
lapsusbrutusP-Chan: you have used kiosk mode in xfce? :)23:59

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