[00:07] <Barridus> i'm enjoying 12.04 very much, thanks for your hard work (if anyone's here that was involved with it)
[00:08] <GridCube> :) they will know
[00:26] <jarrettw> quick question, I grabbed the 12.04 beta last week, what do I need to do to upgrade the final release?
[00:27] <aguitel> jarrettw, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:27] <jarrettw> cool will do
[00:27] <jarrettw> thanks!
[01:12] <malv1> i keep getting a checksum fail with xubuntu alternate 12.04
[01:13] <GridCube> how do you get the file?
[01:14] <malv1> torrent
[01:14] <malv1> the iso md5 matches the website, but during installation it says that xorg-xserver-ati failed checksum
[01:14] <Unit193> I'd personally recommend you zsync the rest, but torrent should be good™
[01:14] <Unit193> Ah, wrong checksum./
[01:14] <malv1> well, like I said, the ISO passes the md5 test
[01:17] <Barridus> is there a keystroke to lock the screen?
[01:18] <malv1> ctrl alt delete
[01:18] <Barridus> lol is that real
[01:20] <Mike-Linux-NL> test
[01:20] <drc> fail
[01:24] <Mike-Linux-NL> i commented on a thread on OMG ubuntu about the press release of Ubuntu 12.04
[01:24] <Mike-Linux-NL> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/press-reaction-to-ubuntu-12-04-mostly-positive/#comment-513861709
[01:27] <Barridus> is it possible to change the lock screen image from the generic x-window flaming monitor to something else? XD
[01:27] <Barridus> (not sure what to call it)
[01:29] <malv1> does xubuntu work with efi at all?
[01:37] <malv1> anyone had success with usb + xubuntu 12.04 alternate 64-bit?
[01:44] <malv1> well, when I create the cd using ubuntu usb creator I don't get corruption of that file
[01:44] <malv1> another file reports corruption
[01:46] <Mike-Linux-NL> i always use Unetbootin
[01:46] <Mike-Linux-NL> works like a charm
[01:46] <Barridus> same
[01:46] <malv1> i get the problem using unetbootin
[01:46] <malv1> corruption at the same spot
[01:46] <Barridus> i was gonna say that too, mike XD
[01:46] <malv1> tried two different ssd cards
[01:48] <malv1> is there a way to verify if an sd card is bad?
[01:53] <Barridus> hmm, why is hibernation greyed out everywhere?  i prefer that to suspend
[01:55] <Unit193> How much ram compared to swap do you have?
[01:57] <Barridus> 1gb ram, i think i set the swap to 2gb
[01:58] <Barridus> hmmm
[01:59] <Barridus> i'm looking in gparted, the swap is shown as "unknown"
[01:59] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Common_Infrastructure
[02:01] <Barridus> ah that explains it, thanks Unit193
[02:01] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[02:02] <Barridus> gonna test it and re-enable it (if it works)
[02:05] <Barridus> and, it didn't XD
[02:08] <malv1> wow, I think it installed this time
[02:08] <Unit193> All else fails and you can use the !mini
[02:10] <Barridus> !mini
[02:11] <Barridus> suspend's always worried me
[02:11] <Barridus> is it still safe to throw in a laptop bag like hibernate is?  (that's why i've always hibernated)
[02:12] <Unit193> I suspend mine, but it's in a docking station due to screen being fudged.
[02:14] <Barridus> i mean if this was stationary, i wouldn't worry about it
[02:15] <Barridus> i'd like to avoid shutting it down completely because dropbox takes forever to fire up
[02:17] <Barridus> oh well i'll live
[02:49] <malv1> ubuntu is the flakiest OS Ive ever used. I attempted to install the ati proprietary through jockey, and for whatever reason it failed. Now my system is unbootable.
[02:49] <malv1> *sigh*
[02:49] <malv1> cant even boot into recovery mode
[03:23] <rolesp> hello all
[03:42] <fernando_> hi
[03:43] <Xubuntu_dasads> dassd
[03:43] <Xubuntu_dasads> somebody?
[03:49] <pleia2> Xubuntu_dasads: if you're looking to chat, you're welcome to join #xubuntu-offtopic
[03:49] <pleia2> otherwise this is a support channel :) so you can just ask your question
[03:50] <Xubuntu_dasads> ah OK
[03:50] <Xubuntu_dasads> then I ask
[03:50] <Xubuntu_dasads> I'm having problems in Xubutu using ssh tunnels
[03:51] <Xubuntu_dasads> I use ssh -Lxx:local_server:xx -p yy user@remote_server
[03:51] <Xubuntu_dasads> thats how I create a persistant connection to connec to anothe local computer in that network
[03:52]  * pleia2 nods
[03:52] <Xubuntu_dasads> so when I conect to the local server in that network on another terminal it stucks after some secconds
[03:53] <Xubuntu_dasads> so the tunnel ssh connection is lost
[03:53] <pleia2> does it work before it gets stuck?
[03:53] <Xubuntu_dasads> nop
[03:53] <Xubuntu_dasads> It freezes the terminal
[03:53] <Xubuntu_dasads> I dont have that problem in ubuntu
[03:53] <Xubuntu_dasads> only in xubuntu
[03:53] <pleia2> so it doesn't get stuck, it just doesn't establish the tunnel
[03:53] <Xubuntu_dasads> nono
[03:54] <Xubuntu_dasads> it establish the tunnel
[03:54] <Xubuntu_dasads> I can connect to a local IP in that network
[03:54] <Xubuntu_dasads> but only for some secconds
[03:54] <pleia2> so it does work before it gets stuck?
[03:54] <Xubuntu_dasads> yeap
[03:55] <pleia2> might want to try keepalive in your ssh config
[03:55] <Xubuntu_dasads> let me see
[03:55] <pleia2> I have this in mine: ServerAliveInterval 180
[03:55] <pleia2> just at the top of ~/.ssh/config
[03:56] <pleia2> I don't need it for most servers I ssh into, but some have some annoying firewalls that like to shut down connections
[03:56] <pleia2> if that doesn't work, you can try debugging by adding the -vvv flags to your ssh command
[03:56] <Xubuntu_dasads> I think is not firewall issue cause Ubuntu keeps the connection alive always
[03:57] <Xubuntu_dasads> its only when I try connecting on Xubuntu
[03:57] <pleia2> sorry, that was just an example
[03:57] <pleia2> there are a lot of reasons a keepalive may help
[03:57] <pleia2> good luck
[03:57] <Xubuntu_dasads> I'm trying that config
[03:57] <Xubuntu_dasads> thanks
[03:57] <Xubuntu_dasads> :D
[04:05] <Cyberacid> 2 minutes and counting
[04:05] <Cyberacid> ;)
[04:07] <Cyberacid> looks like it gets fixed
[04:07] <rolesp> where I can check screen config, resolution and refresh rate?
[04:07] <Cyberacid> Thanks very much pleia
[04:08] <Cyberacid> go to config manager
[04:08] <Cyberacid> screen section
[04:08] <rolesp> cant find there
[04:08] <pleia2> Cyberacid: great!
[04:08] <Cyberacid> ;D
[04:09] <rolesp> ok, my fault, founded
[04:09] <Cyberacid> :P
[04:20] <xubuntu995> Hello, anyone around?
[04:22] <holstein> !ask | xubuntu995
[04:23] <xubuntu995> So I upgraded to precise recently and video thumbnails are no longer generated
[04:24] <xubuntu995> Thumbnails from 11.10 persist in the thumbnail cache but all new files (and renamed old files) will no longer get a thumbnail
[04:25] <holstein> in thunar?
[04:25] <xubuntu995> I suspect it's trying to generate a thumbnail because when  browse a network share with some videos on it, network usage spikes up
[04:25] <xubuntu995> Yes
[04:25] <xubuntu995> Image thumbnails still work
[04:26] <xubuntu995> E.g. making a copy of a jpg will generate a thumbnail for the new file
[04:29] <Stark> Hi guys
[04:30] <Stark> Anyone successfully installed Xubuntu on a laptop with WiFi on?
[04:30] <holstein> Stark: i have used xubuntu with wifi...and othe buntu's
[04:31] <Stark> Hey holstien, what kind of laptop did you use
[04:31] <holstein> Stark: several
[04:31] <holstein> Stark: quite a few
[04:32] <Stark> Going try kubuntu later... on HP Folio
[04:32] <Stark> Xubuntu got some issues
[04:32] <holstein> its not so much "what kind of laptop", its more about the chipset of the wifi devcie
[04:32] <holstein> Stark: nah.. you're device might not be supported well in linux
[04:33] <Stark> Not sure if Intel or Broadcom lol
[04:35] <holstein> Stark: you'll find out
[04:35] <holstein> Stark: you can always use the windows driver too...
[04:35] <Stark> So, you tested all of them? Which one better? I heard Kubuntu will stop at 12.04
[04:36] <xubuntu995> holstein: So video thumbnails work for you?
[04:38] <holstein> xubuntu995: i havent checked
[04:39] <holstein> xubuntu995: i dont really use xubuntu like that
[04:39] <holstein> Stark: kubuntu is not going anywehre
[04:39] <xubuntu995> Well it's pretty eays, just download a video file and see if thunar gets a thumbnail :)
[04:40] <Stark> Ok so the only choice left would be Xubuntu or Ubuntu lol
[04:40] <holstein> xubuntu995: i dont have it in front of me right now, if thats ok
[04:40] <holstein> xubuntu995: i dont recall any issues ith thumbails
[04:40] <holstein> xubuntu995: you are welcome to wait here though and see if anyone else shares your issue, or has a fix
[04:41] <holstein> xubuntu995: i would suggest making a new user account, logging in, and seeing if the situation is the same
[04:41] <holstein> xubuntu995: this will help you deterimine if its a config isue
[04:41] <holstein> issue*
[04:41] <holstein> Stark: ?
[04:41] <xubuntu995> I doubt  it's that because it affects multiple computers
[04:41] <holstein> Stark: there's ubuntu with whatever DE you like... LXDE or unity or XFCE.. whatever..
[04:42] <holstein> lubuntu = ubuntu with LXDE for example..
[04:42] <Stark> It's alright. I'll just use whatever works to my laptop.
[04:42] <holstein> xubuntu995: i would agree, thought i didnt realize this was happnening on multuple machines
[04:43] <xubuntu995> In 11.10 thumbnails had problems without installing the tumbler-plugins-extra package but that didn't fix anything here
[04:43] <Stark> Woot, the battery power manager doesn't update precisely...
[04:44] <holstein> xubuntu995: i would still try with a live CD just to take you out of the equation
[04:48] <xubuntu896> whoops, closed the wrong window
[04:49] <xubuntu896> Anyway, i'll just load the livecd in a VM
[04:52] <rolesp> \quit
[04:58] <xubuntu896> Yup it doesn't work
[04:59] <xubuntu896> Even after install tumbler-plugins-extra
[04:59] <holstein> maybe thats been dropped from thunar
[04:59] <xubuntu896> That's really silly
[05:00] <xubuntu896> Considering that just added thumbnail support to the desktop
[05:00] <holstein> xubuntu896: wel, its allegedly silly
[05:00] <holstein> xubuntu896: im just speculating
[05:00] <xubuntu896> I also see huge network activity when browsing network shares with videos
[05:00] <xubuntu896> So it's definitely reading the files
[05:00] <xubuntu896> I guess I can run perf and see what it's actually trying to do
[05:07] <xubuntu896> So it might be trying to use gstreamer to read the files
[05:07] <xubuntu896> Which would explain the problem
[05:08] <xubuntu896> I think the old backend used ffmpeg
[05:19] <xubuntu896> Yea, looks like debian maintainers switched over to
[05:19] <xubuntu896> gstreamer as per recommendation from upstream in october
[05:19] <xubuntu896> Which explains why it used to work and now doesn't
[05:22] <xubuntu896> Great, so either I can rebuild tumbler with ffmpeg support or figure out how to make gstreamer understand h264. Excellent.
[05:26] <xubuntu896> Oh, thankfully there's a ffmpeg backend for gstreamer. YAY
[05:50] <yell0w> hey guys how do i change the color of the active tab in xfce4-terminal ?
[05:53] <twilson_> When upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 the download of a particular package failed midway. Now my installation is stalled and there's no way to prod it back into action, should I ctrl c?
[05:53] <twilson_> It says: Ctrl-c pressed This will abort the operation and may leave the system in a broken state. Are you sure you want to do this?
[05:54] <yell0w> twilson_: are you upgrading from the terminal ?
[05:54] <twilson_> There is a terminal in the Distribution Upgrade window
[05:54] <twilson_> I'm using that
[05:55] <yell0w> if it's in the middle of downloading then i don't think anything's updated/installed yet
[05:55] <yell0w> i think you can cancel it and restart
[05:55] <yell0w> it'll pick up from where it left off i believe
[05:55] <twilson_> well I guess that's my only option
[05:56] <yell0w> you should have the downloaded .deb's in /var/cache/apt
[05:56] <yell0w> /var/cache/apt/archives actually :)
[05:57] <twilson_> yeah
[05:57] <yell0w> is the upgrade restated ?
[05:57] <yell0w> restarted*
[06:00] <twilson_> no ctrl c didn't abort anything
[06:00] <yell0w> just close the upgrade window and restart the upgrade
[06:01] <twilson_> There's no close button
[06:01] <twilson_> I'm going to to have to kill the process
[06:02] <yell0w> that'd work
[06:02] <twilson_> so that worked, it killed the dropbox download and now it's continuing with the rest
[06:03] <twilson_> and I doubt that anything else depends on dropbox so it should be ok
[06:03] <yell0w> cool :)
[06:03] <yell0w> twilson_: do you know how to change the color of the active tab in xfce4-terminal ?
[06:05] <twilson_> no, sorry
[06:06] <well_laid_lawn> there's colour choices in the preference dialog for the terminal
[06:07] <yell0w> erhm there's only choices for text,curosr,background and tab activity
[06:07] <yell0w> there's none for active tab color
[06:08] <twilson_> you probably need to adjust the current xubuntu theme somehow
[06:08] <yell0w> the active tab right now is a bit lighter color than the rest, so i think there's a setting somewhere
[06:08] <yell0w> but it's very light difference and i can't really distinguish much
[06:08] <yell0w> so it's the theme ?
[06:08] <twilson_> seeing as tabs colours are the same for all xubuntu tabs, and not specific to terminal
[06:09] <twilson_> I'd say so yes
[07:59] <SandJ> I logged into Xubuntu 11.10 using the "Xfce Session" option out of curiosity.  Now, when I go in using "Xubuntu Session" the panel over-lays part of the desktop, windows have no titlebar, I can't type in a Terminal session, Windows overlay the Panel, Alt-Tab doesn't work, etc.    How do I get my Xubuntu working properly again?
[08:00] <Sysi> SandJ: alt F2 "xfwm4 --replace"
[08:00] <Sysi> and fix for next login, rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions
[08:10] <SandJ> @Sysi: Thank you.
[08:18] <koegs> is there a ppa for xfce 4.10 final?
[08:19] <Stark> Anyone using Arch
[08:20] <koegs> Stark: maybe you can ask in #xubuntu-offtopic
[08:21] <Stark> Ok, anyone solved the wifi issue on laptop?
[09:10] <cousteau`nbk> The xubuntu 12.04 64b live CD won't boot on this machine
[09:11] <cousteau`nbk> it's a 64b machine, when booting (after the splash screen) I get a screen with something that looks like dmesg and it freezes there; it doesn't even allow me to Alt-SysRq-REISUB
[09:11] <cousteau`nbk> maybe some graphics card issue?
[09:12] <cousteau`nbk> (disk MD5 is ok)
[09:12] <cousteau`nbk> (well, at least the ISO is ok...  maybe there was a record error)
[09:15] <cousteau`nbk> last messages are (newer to older):  system_call_fastpath, sys_init_module, do_one_initcall, nouveau_init, ? 0xffffffffa0173fff, ? vga_switcheroo_register_handler. drm_pci_init, __pci_register_driver, driver_register ...
[09:15] <Sysi> I'd try with another disk, or usb
[09:15] <cousteau`nbk> any idea?  tried Ctrl-Alt-F1 to F12 with no success
[09:16] <cousteau`nbk> I could check the disk...  but I don't have a computer with Linux and a CD drive
[09:16] <cousteau`nbk> wait...  I think I do
[09:19] <cousteau`nbk> damn, the only computer with linux here is password-protected (and I don't know the password)
[09:20] <cousteau`nbk> the CD should work, I tried it at home
[09:22] <cousteau`nbk> any way to MD5 a CD from Windows?
[09:22] <knome> cousteau`nbk, http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[09:24] <cousteau`nbk> does it work for CDs?  (keep in mind this doesn't have /dev/cdrom)
[09:27] <knome> right, i don't know
[09:27] <xubuntu331> Hello!
[09:28] <xubuntu331> quick question
[09:28] <xubuntu331> I just got the notification from the update manager for ubuntu 12.04
[09:28] <xubuntu331> to update to 12.04
[09:28] <xubuntu331> should I download the update via the manager
[09:28] <xubuntu331> or via the website
[09:28] <xubuntu331> ?
[09:28] <xubuntu331> as it said its an update for ubuntu not xubuntu
[09:29] <knome> it says it's for ubuntu, but it will upgrade xubuntu
[09:29] <cousteau`nbk> hmm,  I typed "md5 cd windows" on duck duck go and got an MD5 of something...
[09:29] <knome> iirc that's even in the release notes
[09:29] <xubuntu331> ah! right
[09:29] <xubuntu331> thanks! :)
[09:29] <xubuntu331> Have a good day
[09:29] <knome> np
[09:29] <knome> you too
[09:30] <cousteau`nbk> does the *ubuntu cd come with some sort of disk checker for Windows?
[09:31] <knome> what do you mean with disk checker?
[09:32]  * cousteau`nbk tries "Check disc defects"
[09:32] <knome> right, yeah, that should be good too
[09:32]  * cousteau`nbk gets exactly the same "error" as before:  sorta like a dmesg
[09:33] <knome> directly when you start checking, or a bit later?
[09:33] <cousteau`nbk> interesting...  when I press a key, the NumLock LED blinks
[09:33] <cousteau`nbk> knome, directly when I select the option and hit enter
[09:33] <knome> mmh :/
[09:34]  * cousteau`nbk checks BIOS options
[09:35] <cousteau`nbk> maybe some sort of "free software protection"...  how do I check if the computer has something like that?  (UEFI or something alike)
[09:36] <cousteau`nbk> can I run the live CD in some sort of fail-safe mode?
[09:37] <knome> there is the safe mode graphics, but that doesn't help if the disc has defects
[09:37] <knome> and it doesn't help if you don't have problems with graphics
[09:37] <knome> or wait
[09:37] <knome> that's only alternate
[09:37] <knome> :P
[09:37] <knome> Unit193, halp
[09:38] <knome> :P
[09:40]  * cousteau`nbk tries on another computer and AARGH it booted directly to Win XP
[09:41] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootParameters not that, right?
[09:42]  * cousteau`nbk checks
[09:42] <cousteau`nbk> guess what, the "other computer" is a 32b one
[09:42]  * cousteau`nbk angry
[09:46] <cousteau`nbk> hey, acpi=off noaic nolapic seems to work!
[09:47] <cousteau`nbk> no idea what that means, though...
[09:48] <cousteau`nbk> "If the boot parameter options worked for you, you will need to make permanent changes in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst after the installation has completed."
[09:48] <cousteau`nbk> ye olde menu.lst...  nostalgia kicks in
[09:49] <Unit193> /etc/defualt/grub
[09:49] <Unit193> Only spell it right.
[09:49] <knome> :P
[09:50] <cousteau`nbk> "Check finished: no errors found"
[09:50] <cousteau`nbk> ok
[09:50] <cousteau`nbk> "Press any key to reboot your system"
[09:50] <cousteau`nbk> where's that key?  (hurr hurr)
[09:52] <Unit193> Top left, but not esc.
[09:53] <cousteau`nbk> just curious, what do acpi=off, noapic and nolapic do?  link?
[09:54]  * cousteau`nbk uses ddg.gg
[09:55] <Sysi> you don't necessarily need all of them
[09:56] <cousteau`nbk> yeah, I tried all of them and it worked...  was going to try with just one of them, but I don't know which one(s) should I choose
[09:59] <cousteau`nbk> acpi=off seems to be enough
[10:00] <cousteau`nbk> but I don't get the fancy splash!  only the text one
[10:02] <cousteau`nbk> hmm...  getting a black screen now...  but it seems to work
[10:02] <cousteau`nbk> oh, here it goes
[10:03] <cousteau`nbk> ugliest resolution ever, but it works
[10:05] <cousteau`nbk> step 2:  install drivers (can this be done on a live cd session?)
[10:06] <foobArrr> what does xfce4-settings-helper do exactly?
[10:09] <Unit193> xfce4-settings-helper - Settings daemon for Xfce
[10:09] <cousteau`nbk> hmm, screen settings claims I'm using a refresh rate of 0.0 Hz
[10:09] <cousteau`nbk> but it seems to go faster
[10:09] <cousteau`nbk> I mean, I see frames...  more than 1
[10:28] <f0x> how can i install xfce 4.10
[10:29] <baizon> f0x: ppa will be released soon
[10:30] <knome> f0x, any specific reason why you want to upgrade?
[10:30] <f0x> why does medit have issues with shortcuts in 12.04
[10:30] <f0x> used it in 11.10 and worked okay
[10:44] <tga> greetings
[10:44] <tga> I installed xfce on a clean 12.04 system and I seem to have trouble with my keyboard layout
[10:44] <Unit193> Howdy.
[10:45] <tga> it looks like US everywhere but it's a Dutch layout
[10:45] <tga> I did choose the Netherlands as location when installing
[10:45] <tga> XkbLayout is US, the Keyboard pane shows 102-key US
[10:46] <tga> any hints on finding and changing the actual keyboard layout?
[10:47] <tga> hm, nm, think I fixed it
[10:47] <tga> thanks, this place is good inspiration
[10:48] <knome> naturally
[10:48] <tga> I messed with the keyboard layout, changed it a few times
[10:48] <tga> went back to what I had before and now it works
[10:48]  * tga shrugs
[11:02] <tga> cheers
[13:25] <tomreyn> hi, i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 the other day and now i get this notification icon (a letter with a small number printed on a black circle on the bottom right) whenever i change the audio volume. when you click on this icon, a list of notifications shows up, in this case telling me that the adio volume is now at xx percent. which is a rather useless  presentation of this kind of information.
[13:25] <tomreyn> how can i get rid of this notification icon?
[13:27] <tomreyn> i have XFCE configured to "load the Gnome runtime environment" when starting up, maybe that's related.
[14:28] <twoten> I upgraded to xubuntu 12.04 and now my wireless won't work - I'm trying to run ifconfig up but I get Unknown Device for every variation of wlan and wlan0 etc
[14:28] <twoten> what should I do?
[15:02] <foobArrr> my keyboard shortcuts don't work anymore since upgrading to 12.04. only Print and <Alt>Print work, others (predefined and my own shortcuts) don't work.
[15:04] <foobArrr> no ubuntu upgrade brought as much trouble for me as 11.10 -> 12.04 :/
[15:05] <Sysi> foobArrr: are your shortcuts involving Ctrl?
[15:05] <foobArrr> no, Super
[15:06] <foobArrr> well, ctrl + escape doesn't work ether
[15:06] <junix659> i'm running security onion to test out some of the features, but I want to get ntop installed.  Is there a newer version nTop available for Xubuntu??
[15:07] <Sysi> foobArrr: do you see change in keykodes if you remap some of them?
[15:08] <foobArrr> change in keycodes?
[15:09] <Sysi> in keyboard settings you can see which keys have commands been bind to, if for example Ctrl is changed to Primary by xorg update, they stop working
[15:11] <foobArrr> I'm not sure if I understand what you mean. I tried setting them again, setting them to <Alt> instead of <Super>, both didn't work.
[15:14] <Marzata> foobArrr: you talk about changing layouts, right?
[15:14] <foobArrr> Marzata: no
[15:15] <foobArrr> I'm talking about "Application Shortcuts"
[15:16] <Marzata> foobArrr: ah, ok
[15:16] <foobArrr> I was wrong, the screenshot keys don't work either, they just make the screen / window flash white
[15:18] <foobArrr> wrong again, they do work. but the don't give me the xfce screenshot dialog, they directly store a screenshot in ~/Pictures
[15:18]  * foobArrr is confused
[15:29] <xubuntu044> $
[15:32] <foobArrr> compiz commands doesn't work either
[15:33] <italomaia> Hi folks!
[15:34] <italomaia> I'm having trouble umounting my drives in xubuntu 12.04
[15:34] <martinphone> me too italomaia
[15:34] <italomaia> anyone had the same problem? I plug my pendrive and than I can't umount it
[15:35] <martinphone> I have to use nautilus to unmount safely
[15:35] <italomaia> nautilus?
[15:35] <martinphone> do you?
[15:35] <italomaia> martinphone, well, if i just wait enough time, it umounts eventually
[15:35] <martinphone> alt+f2 nautilus
[15:35] <italomaia> this could be a bug
[15:36] <martinphone> thats odd italomaia
[15:36] <martinphone> it unmounts by itself?
[15:36] <italomaia> I don't have nautilus here
[15:36] <italomaia> no. I umount it manually.
[15:36] <martinphone> you mean you unplug it...
[15:37] <italomaia> No, a really umount it than unplug
[15:37] <italomaia> *then
[15:37] <martinphone> terminal
[15:37] <italomaia> no, through thunar
[15:38] <italomaia> I think tumblerd is related to the issue. lsof says tumblr is creating thumbs
[15:39] <tomreyn> hi, i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 the other day and now i get this notification icon (a letter with a small number printed on a black circle on the bottom right) whenever i change the audio volume. when you click on this icon, a list of notifications shows up, in this case telling me that the adio volume is now at xx percent. which is a rather useless  presentation of this kind of information. how can i get rid of this notification icon?
[15:39] <tomreyn> i have XFCE configured to "load the Gnome runtime environment" when starting up, maybe that's related.
[15:40] <foobArrr> the shortcuts in unity -> system settings -> keyboard work Oo
[15:42] <italomaia> Yap, the issue is related to tumblerd
[15:58] <foobArrr> I think I'll restore 11.10 backups *sigh*
[16:01] <oxic`> was 12.04 disasterous? =o i've seen issues, the classic bug with keyb psysical keys for volume mute (which could not be unmuted using these psy. buttons) are still present.
[16:01] <oxic`> damn developers! ^^
[16:02] <oxic`> also, the issue with note/netbooks and three-finger-tap to rightclick, still not functioning like as desired =/
[16:02] <oxic`> only these two issues i've got, so far.
[16:02] <drc> oxic`: That's funny...I found the mute/unmute problem on my laptop with 11.10, but NOT with 12.04 :)
[16:03] <oxic`> drc: oh, it was fixed w/ your 12.04? =o nice, gotta check one more time then.
[16:03] <drc> WFM (tm) :)
[16:06] <drc> The only problem I'm having with 12.04 is the old "first opening of thunar takes forever".
[16:15] <italomaia> I had issues with tumblerd blocking my usb devices
[16:17] <soreau> hey guys I'm trying to use alacarte to install a launch to the menu. Works fine exact the icon. The icon shows up in alacarte but not the menu. I tried restarting xfce4-panel but it didn't help. Does the icon need to be a certain size?
[17:39] <mips> How does one change the menu layout?
[18:14] <xuserx> is xfce 4.10 available for download now?
[18:14] <xubuntu440> hi
[18:14] <baizon> xuserx: no
[18:14] <xubuntu440> can anyone helme
[18:14] <xubuntu440> help me
[18:15] <baizon> !ask xubuntu440
[18:15] <xubuntu440> i instaled 12.04 recently
[18:15] <baizon> !ask | xubuntu440
[18:15] <xubuntu440> i am not able to double press any key button
[18:16] <xubuntu440> i need to give half second time delay to use same key again
[18:17] <xubuntu440> if i want to type tree, i need to give half sec time delay betwen tre(halfsec)e
[18:17] <xubuntu440> are you ther?
[18:18] <xubuntu440> anybody looking answer?
[18:20] <xubuntu297> hello
[18:21] <xubuntu440> hi
[18:21] <baizon> xubuntu440: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/keyboard
[18:21] <xubuntu297> can install xubuntu to a mac powerbook g4
[18:21] <xubuntu297> without mac os
[18:21] <xubuntu440> tnk u
[18:21] <xubuntu440> baizon i will try now
[18:21] <baizon> np
[18:22] <xubuntu297> hello
[18:22] <xubuntu297> is it possible to install xubuntu in a mac powerbook g4
[18:22] <xubuntu297> without mac os
[18:23] <baizon> xubuntu297: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3kZ4Gw7-fs
[18:23] <xubuntu297> where can i download a copy
[18:23] <baizon> so as you can see it is possible :)
[18:24] <xubuntu297> will the i386 work
[18:28] <baizon> xubuntu297: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[18:28] <baizon> there you have all the infos
[18:44] <nishttal2> does xubuntu use metacity?
[18:44] <nishttal2> window decorator?
[18:46] <baizon> nishttal2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1819708
[19:18] <nishttal2> where do i put startup applications?
[19:19] <aguitel> i installed compiz but no windows decoration have
[19:20] <baizon> nishttal2: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/preferences
[19:20] <armink> how do I turn off display mirroring on xubuntu? do the xfce settings really have no option for that? no way around (x/a/lx/foo)randr?
[19:21] <baizon> armink: indeed no support from xfce yet
[19:21] <baizon> im usind arandr
[19:22] <armink> k, thx
[19:28] <nishttal2> baizon.. thanks
[19:28] <baizon> np
[19:29] <nishttal2> the terminals in xubuntu do not have saved profiles like ubuntu?
[19:33] <armink> nishttal2, I don't think so, but I don't know for sure. using gnome-terminal on xubuntu should not be a problem, though.
[19:36] <aguitel> i want to delete some item in application menu ,how i do it?
[19:37] <drc> Applications Menu>Settings>Main Menu
[19:38] <aguitel> drc, i not found in menu
[19:39] <drc> aguitel: what version are you running?
[19:40] <aguitel> drc, 4.8
[19:40] <aguitel> i installed freenet and i want to delete it
[19:40] <drc> what version of Xubuntu?
[19:41] <aguitel> 12.04
[19:41] <aguitel> drc, i did
[19:41] <aguitel> thanks
[19:41] <drc> ok
[19:42] <aguitel> this is what i try :https://freenetproject.org/
[19:48] <hydester> anybody solve the problem with the speakers still working when headphones plugged in?  i thoguht i resolved this back pre-12.04, but now it is broken again.  tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860789 without any luck
[19:50] <astraljava> How did you resolve it before? It's always possible there's a regression.
[19:50] <hydester> astraljava: trying to dig up my notes .. :(
[19:51] <GridCube> hydester, pavucontrol doesnt let you choose what output goes with with?
[19:53] <hydester> GridCube: all i see is port "Speakers"
[19:53] <GridCube> mmm
[20:02] <hydester> i'm pretty sure it was via some config file manually associating volumeup/volumedown commands
[20:05] <n2diy> how can I tell what is using my swap memory?
[20:06] <hydester> n2diy: free -m
[20:07] <hydester> oh, what
[20:08] <n2diy> hydester, that tells me how much is being used, which I know, I'm curious what is using it.
[20:13] <nishttal2> i installed gnome-terminal.. where would be the launcher for that ?
[20:14] <knome> nishttal2, most probably under 'accessories'
[20:14] <astraljava> Terminals are always fun to chase around the menu structures.
[20:14] <nishttal2> knome nope i dont see it
[20:14] <astraljava> In KDE that'd probably be in System > 'something', I forget which.
[20:14] <knome> nishttal2, i'm pretty sure that's where it should appear
[20:15] <nishttal2> knome, its not there.. i can launch one from terminal emulator
[20:16] <foobArrr>  it's not there for me either
[20:17] <knome> maybe it's showonlyin=GNOME :P
[20:18] <rolesp> I have a problem with this machine under 12.04, at boot needs to press scape and from the grub menu kernel recovery option
[20:18] <rolesp> if not I have only a black screen
[20:20] <rolesp> after that i works ok, but if rebott have to do the same
[20:20] <nishttal2> knome, is it possible to change the "Open terminal here" command in right click to open gnome-terminal?
[20:21] <knome> nishttal2, yeah, edit -> configure custom actions
[20:21] <knome> i'm not sure where you specifically need gnome-terminal though
[20:21] <nishttal2> edit?
[20:21] <knome> nishttal2, edit from a thunar window
[20:21] <knome> but looks like the launcher is just exo
[20:22] <knome> so changing the default terminal emulator should work
[20:22] <foobArrr> how do I change the keyboard layout system-wide?
[20:22] <nishttal2> ok you lost me :(
[20:22] <knome> nishttal2, settings manager -> preferred applications -> tab utilities
[20:22] <knome> nishttal2, change the terminal emulator in that dialog, and the right-click menu should follow what you set there
[20:23] <nishttal2> knome.. trying now
[20:24] <foobArrr> nevermind, got it
[20:25] <nishttal2> knome, worked .. thanks :)
[20:25] <knome> np
[20:29] <nishttal2> how do i connect to a FTP server? in Ubuntu there was a menu item to do that
[20:30] <hydester> nishttal2: the command is called "ftp"
[20:31] <rolesp> How i can save my actual video configuration?
[20:31] <hydester> nishttal2: but you can just go to "Ubuntu Software Center" and search for ftp for a gui client
[20:32] <hydester> nishttal2: filezilla has a lot of stars
[20:37] <rolesp> Where to find the jockey drivers?
[20:41] <liznevada> hai guise
[20:42] <rolesp> how to configure an ATI video card using jockey?
[20:51] <liznevada> i have a 60GB partition for install xubuntu and i want to separate /home,  which is the minimum for / partition?
[20:51] <liznevada> how many GB?
[20:51] <knome> i've used 5.6GB on my /
[20:52] <nishttal2> is there a way to mount FTP folders ?
[20:52] <knome> nishttal2, try gigolo
[20:52] <nishttal2> oh ok
[20:53] <knome> rolesp, you can't configure drivers with jockey, only install
[20:56] <nishttal2> knome, i am able to connect but its showing me the FTP directories in chrome..
[20:57] <knome> nishttal2, afaik ftp:// links should work in thunar after that
[20:57] <knome> but i haven't used gigolo myself
[20:57] <rolesp> knome, ok, then i need to instal the ati propietary drivers?
[20:58] <knome> rolesp, what is your problem? what do you want to achieve?
[20:58] <liznevada> cuz, man i find this laptop in a dumpster, and old Vaio VGN, and it had win xp but the was SLOW as *ell, i reinstall and it continue to behave slow.
[20:58] <knome> liznevada, it depends much how many apps you want to install, and how sure you want to be that the space doesn't run out.
[20:58] <liznevada> i just try xubuntu and it literally fly
[20:59] <liznevada> its for my little sister
[20:59] <knome> something like 8GB is probably really safe
[20:59] <liznevada> i guess 10GB its ok right?
[21:00] <knome> yeah, that shouldn't be even close
[21:00] <nishttal2> knome, thunar is the nautilus for xubuntu?
[21:00] <knome> nishttal2, yes, the "file manager", as some of us call it
[21:00] <rolesp> I have a problem with this machine under 12.04, at boot needs to press scape and from the grub menu kernel recovery option
[21:00] <knome> rolesp, does it show any error?
[21:00] <nishttal2> I am not seeing the FTP folder i just connected to in gigolo
[21:01] <nishttal2> oh.. i selected toolbar style selector and am good
[21:01] <nishttal2> thanks
[21:02] <knome> np
[21:02] <liznevada> i dont get why somebody would trash a working laptop
[21:03] <rolesp> not after all it shows whit some options one is proced to normal boot
[21:03] <knome> rolesp, is it a laptop?
[21:03] <rolesp> and then it works ok
[21:04] <rolesp> but if I restart have to do the same
[21:04] <rolesp> not is a desktop 775 2.6 proc 512 ram
[21:16] <rolesp> knome, i just installed the ati driver from the software center, but it doesn show under other controllers
[21:17] <rolesp> maybe i need to reboot
[21:21] <rolesp> bbl
[21:28] <pooltable> help how do i get the xfce to re set my chazilla window is lock and show the desk top does not work?
[21:34] <Myrtti> pleia2: I don't think the problem is whether it's PAE kernel or not, it's if it's 486 or 586
[21:34] <Myrtti> but I have no idea about kernels or all this so I have no idea
[21:35] <knome> Myrtti, see -ops-team
[21:35] <pleia2> Myrtti: ah, ok
[21:55] <pooltable> how to re set up xfce?
[21:56] <knome> pooltable, can you be more specific?
[22:01] <pooltable> ok well on click on show desk top it does not work
[22:01] <pooltable> i can not see the firefox x or resize box
[22:01] <knome> pooltable, what click on desktop? what does not work?
[22:01] <pooltable> i can not see the top of the console
[22:02] <knome> pooltable, press alt+f2 and run 'xfwm'
[22:02] <knome> pooltable, sorry, 'xfwm4' (without the quotes)
[22:02] <pooltable> knome
[22:02] <pooltable> that does not work
[22:03] <knome> xfwm4 or xfwm ?
[22:03] <knome> did you try running compiz?
[22:03] <knome> did you enable the root account?
[22:03] <pooltable> alt f2
[22:04] <pooltable> how do i do compiz?
[22:04] <knome> no, don't, i was just asking if you did
[22:04] <pooltable> \no
[22:04] <knome> do you have a terminal window opwn?
[22:04] <pooltable> yes but i do not see the top of it
[22:04] <pooltable> clr
[22:05] <pooltable> clr
[22:05] <knome> okay, in the terminal window type 'xfwm4 &' (without the quotes, and press enter/return
[22:05] <pooltable> i try to tpye xfwm4&
[22:05] <knome> note that there is a space before the &-sign
[22:06] <pooltable> no it not working right what i type i only type here
[22:06] <pooltable> hi
[22:07] <knome> what is not working?
[22:07] <pooltable> ok i try to click on console but when i type it type here  not there
[22:08] <knome> can you access the applications menu?
[22:08] <pooltable> yes
[22:09] <knome> can you see a menu entry that says "Run Program..." ?
[22:09] <pooltable> yes
[22:10] <knome> click that, and type 'xfwm4' in the text area (without the quotes again), and click run
[22:10] <pooltable> xfce4-settings-manager
[22:11] <knome> ?
[22:11] <pooltable> it will not let me backspace so just run that ?
[22:12] <knome> no, you need to run xfwm4
[22:13] <knome> if you can select all the text with the mouse, do that, and start typing the new command
[22:14] <pooltable> it does not let me type in that box ?
[22:14] <pooltable> ok copy and paset now what
[22:14] <knome> press run
[22:14] <pooltable> i got the setting up
[22:15] <knome> what setting?
[22:16] <pooltable> ok now it is not doing a think ?
[22:16] <pooltable> thing
[22:17] <knome> did you run 'xfwm4' ?
[22:17] <pooltable> yes
[22:17] <knome> if that didn't work, try running 'xfwm4 --replace' (again without quotes)
[22:17] <pooltable> what does it do ?
[22:18] <knome> it should restart xfwm, and that should re-enable your window borders
[22:18] <pooltable> ok sorry how do i know if it work ?
[22:18] <pooltable> and thanks for all the help
[22:18] <knome> if it works, window borders will appear immediately
[22:18] <knome> if not, try the other command i gave you
[22:19] <pooltable> ok thanks what cause it that ?
[22:20] <knome> did it work?
[22:20] <pooltable> yes
[22:20] <knome> ok, good
[22:20] <knome> i do not know what caused the error
[22:20] <pooltable> ok
[22:21] <pooltable> i will wright a text file for next time
[22:21] <pooltable> also how to change the desk top?
[22:22] <manitou> just testing xubuntu on aspire S3 , and i can say it works well
[22:22] <knome> what do you mean with "change the desktop" ?
[22:22] <knome> manitou, good to hear
[22:22] <pooltable> yes
[22:25] <pooltable> hellow?
[22:25] <knome> pooltable, please re-read the question
[22:26] <pooltable> knome change the desktop yes
[22:26] <knome> pooltable, re-read
[22:26] <pooltable> knome like to change the desktop image please?
[22:27] <Myrtti> the background?
[22:27] <Myrtti> "wallpaper"?
[22:27] <pooltable> myrtti yes
[22:27] <pooltable> myrtti sorry what the difference?
[22:27] <Myrtti> pooltable: between background and wallpaper? nothing.
[22:28] <pooltable> myrtti ok then how please?
[22:28] <Myrtti> but "change the desktop" can mean anything between changing the wallpaper, changing virtual workspaces and changing desktop environments
[22:28] <Myrtti> which is why knome asked for a clarification
[22:30] <pooltable> myrtti change the image backround
[22:30] <Myrtti> what have you tried so far?
[22:32] <pooltable> myrtti ok well i go to desktop settings and the plus button the image i what is there but it is not working right now?
[22:33] <pooltable> also how get the console to show up right it is all black?
[22:38] <pooltable> ok the console is all black i do not see the system name at all how to fix?
[22:39] <knome> pooltable, right-click -> preferences -> colors -> set background color to something else than black
[22:43] <Barridus> i periodically get a "login keyring didn't unlock" prompt asking for my login password, how do i get rid of this forever?
[22:43] <pooltable> knome thanks got the console fix sill trying to get the desktop image to change
[22:44] <knome> pooltable, if you have the image on your hard drive, navigate to the folder with thunar (the file manager), right-click and press "set as wallpaper"
[22:46] <pooltable> knome got it to work thanks
[22:46] <pooltable> for all the help
[22:46] <knome> no problem
[22:59]  * Barridus is listening to: Mike Birbiglia – I'm a Bear, Etc. [Sleepwalk With Me - Live]; [01:40/06:19]
[22:59] <Barridus> opps, sorry
[23:37] <lapsusbrutus> Anyone used kioskmode in xfce? kioskrc config on [xfce4-panel] is: CustomizePanel=NONE,   Still anybody can remove things on panels, and even panels.  Would this be a bug, or me=lolfail?
[23:48] <liznevada> dude, the Software Center of Xubuntu make me jelly for using Fedora
[23:56] <P-Chan> Olá amiguinhos do bem... como adciono aquele aplicativo que formata pen-drive com o botão direito?
[23:57] <lapsusbrutus> P-Chan: fdisk and mkfs.vfat is nice
[23:58] <P-Chan> lapsusbrutus: sorry. this is a english chat
[23:58] <P-Chan> lapsusbrutus: I use Gparted but in UBUNTU version has a tool format pen drive
[23:59] <lapsusbrutus> P-Chan: you have used kiosk mode in xfce? :)