[00:07] i'm enjoying 12.04 very much, thanks for your hard work (if anyone's here that was involved with it) [00:08] :) they will know [00:26] quick question, I grabbed the 12.04 beta last week, what do I need to do to upgrade the final release? [00:27] jarrettw, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [00:27] cool will do [00:27] thanks! [01:12] i keep getting a checksum fail with xubuntu alternate 12.04 [01:13] how do you get the file? [01:14] torrent [01:14] the iso md5 matches the website, but during installation it says that xorg-xserver-ati failed checksum [01:14] I'd personally recommend you zsync the rest, but torrent should be good™ [01:14] Ah, wrong checksum./ [01:14] well, like I said, the ISO passes the md5 test [01:17] is there a keystroke to lock the screen? [01:18] ctrl alt delete [01:18] lol is that real [01:20] test [01:20] fail [01:24] i commented on a thread on OMG ubuntu about the press release of Ubuntu 12.04 [01:24] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/press-reaction-to-ubuntu-12-04-mostly-positive/#comment-513861709 [01:27] is it possible to change the lock screen image from the generic x-window flaming monitor to something else? XD [01:27] (not sure what to call it) [01:29] does xubuntu work with efi at all? [01:37] anyone had success with usb + xubuntu 12.04 alternate 64-bit? [01:44] well, when I create the cd using ubuntu usb creator I don't get corruption of that file [01:44] another file reports corruption [01:46] i always use Unetbootin [01:46] works like a charm [01:46] same [01:46] i get the problem using unetbootin [01:46] corruption at the same spot [01:46] i was gonna say that too, mike XD [01:46] tried two different ssd cards [01:48] is there a way to verify if an sd card is bad? [01:53] hmm, why is hibernation greyed out everywhere? i prefer that to suspend [01:55] How much ram compared to swap do you have? [01:57] 1gb ram, i think i set the swap to 2gb [01:58] hmmm [01:59] i'm looking in gparted, the swap is shown as "unknown" [01:59] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Common_Infrastructure [02:01] ah that explains it, thanks Unit193 [02:01] Sure thing. [02:02] gonna test it and re-enable it (if it works) [02:05] and, it didn't XD [02:08] wow, I think it installed this time [02:08] All else fails and you can use the !mini [02:10] !mini [02:10] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [02:11] suspend's always worried me [02:11] is it still safe to throw in a laptop bag like hibernate is? (that's why i've always hibernated) [02:12] I suspend mine, but it's in a docking station due to screen being fudged. [02:14] i mean if this was stationary, i wouldn't worry about it [02:15] i'd like to avoid shutting it down completely because dropbox takes forever to fire up [02:17] oh well i'll live [02:49] ubuntu is the flakiest OS Ive ever used. I attempted to install the ati proprietary through jockey, and for whatever reason it failed. Now my system is unbootable. [02:49] *sigh* [02:49] cant even boot into recovery mode [03:23] hello all [03:42] hi === fernando_ is now known as Xubuntu_dasads [03:43] dassd [03:43] somebody? [03:49] Xubuntu_dasads: if you're looking to chat, you're welcome to join #xubuntu-offtopic [03:49] otherwise this is a support channel :) so you can just ask your question [03:50] ah OK [03:50] then I ask [03:50] I'm having problems in Xubutu using ssh tunnels [03:51] I use ssh -Lxx:local_server:xx -p yy user@remote_server [03:51] thats how I create a persistant connection to connec to anothe local computer in that network [03:52] * pleia2 nods [03:52] so when I conect to the local server in that network on another terminal it stucks after some secconds [03:53] so the tunnel ssh connection is lost [03:53] does it work before it gets stuck? [03:53] nop [03:53] It freezes the terminal [03:53] I dont have that problem in ubuntu [03:53] only in xubuntu [03:53] so it doesn't get stuck, it just doesn't establish the tunnel [03:53] nono [03:54] it establish the tunnel [03:54] I can connect to a local IP in that network [03:54] but only for some secconds [03:54] so it does work before it gets stuck? [03:54] yeap [03:55] might want to try keepalive in your ssh config [03:55] let me see [03:55] I have this in mine: ServerAliveInterval 180 [03:55] just at the top of ~/.ssh/config [03:56] I don't need it for most servers I ssh into, but some have some annoying firewalls that like to shut down connections [03:56] if that doesn't work, you can try debugging by adding the -vvv flags to your ssh command [03:56] I think is not firewall issue cause Ubuntu keeps the connection alive always [03:57] its only when I try connecting on Xubuntu [03:57] sorry, that was just an example [03:57] there are a lot of reasons a keepalive may help [03:57] good luck [03:57] I'm trying that config [03:57] thanks [03:57] :D === Xubuntu_dasads is now known as Cyberacid [04:05] 2 minutes and counting [04:05] ;) [04:07] looks like it gets fixed [04:07] where I can check screen config, resolution and refresh rate? [04:07] Thanks very much pleia [04:08] go to config manager [04:08] screen section [04:08] cant find there [04:08] Cyberacid: great! [04:08] ;D [04:09] ok, my fault, founded [04:09] :P [04:20] Hello, anyone around? [04:22] !ask | xubuntu995 [04:22] xubuntu995: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [04:23] So I upgraded to precise recently and video thumbnails are no longer generated [04:24] Thumbnails from 11.10 persist in the thumbnail cache but all new files (and renamed old files) will no longer get a thumbnail [04:25] in thunar? [04:25] I suspect it's trying to generate a thumbnail because when browse a network share with some videos on it, network usage spikes up [04:25] Yes [04:25] Image thumbnails still work [04:26] E.g. making a copy of a jpg will generate a thumbnail for the new file [04:29] Hi guys [04:30] Anyone successfully installed Xubuntu on a laptop with WiFi on? [04:30] Stark: i have used xubuntu with wifi...and othe buntu's [04:31] Hey holstien, what kind of laptop did you use [04:31] Stark: several [04:31] Stark: quite a few [04:32] Going try kubuntu later... on HP Folio [04:32] Xubuntu got some issues [04:32] its not so much "what kind of laptop", its more about the chipset of the wifi devcie [04:32] Stark: nah.. you're device might not be supported well in linux [04:33] Not sure if Intel or Broadcom lol [04:35] Stark: you'll find out [04:35] Stark: you can always use the windows driver too... [04:35] So, you tested all of them? Which one better? I heard Kubuntu will stop at 12.04 [04:36] holstein: So video thumbnails work for you? [04:38] xubuntu995: i havent checked [04:39] xubuntu995: i dont really use xubuntu like that [04:39] Stark: kubuntu is not going anywehre [04:39] Well it's pretty eays, just download a video file and see if thunar gets a thumbnail :) [04:40] Ok so the only choice left would be Xubuntu or Ubuntu lol [04:40] xubuntu995: i dont have it in front of me right now, if thats ok [04:40] xubuntu995: i dont recall any issues ith thumbails [04:40] xubuntu995: you are welcome to wait here though and see if anyone else shares your issue, or has a fix [04:41] xubuntu995: i would suggest making a new user account, logging in, and seeing if the situation is the same [04:41] xubuntu995: this will help you deterimine if its a config isue [04:41] issue* [04:41] Stark: ? [04:41] I doubt it's that because it affects multiple computers [04:41] Stark: there's ubuntu with whatever DE you like... LXDE or unity or XFCE.. whatever.. [04:42] lubuntu = ubuntu with LXDE for example.. [04:42] It's alright. I'll just use whatever works to my laptop. [04:42] xubuntu995: i would agree, thought i didnt realize this was happnening on multuple machines [04:43] In 11.10 thumbnails had problems without installing the tumbler-plugins-extra package but that didn't fix anything here [04:43] Woot, the battery power manager doesn't update precisely... [04:44] xubuntu995: i would still try with a live CD just to take you out of the equation [04:48] whoops, closed the wrong window [04:49] Anyway, i'll just load the livecd in a VM [04:52] \quit [04:58] Yup it doesn't work [04:59] Even after install tumbler-plugins-extra [04:59] maybe thats been dropped from thunar [04:59] That's really silly [05:00] Considering that just added thumbnail support to the desktop [05:00] xubuntu896: wel, its allegedly silly [05:00] xubuntu896: im just speculating [05:00] I also see huge network activity when browsing network shares with videos [05:00] So it's definitely reading the files [05:00] I guess I can run perf and see what it's actually trying to do [05:07] So it might be trying to use gstreamer to read the files [05:07] Which would explain the problem [05:08] I think the old backend used ffmpeg [05:19] Yea, looks like debian maintainers switched over to [05:19] gstreamer as per recommendation from upstream in october [05:19] Which explains why it used to work and now doesn't [05:22] Great, so either I can rebuild tumbler with ffmpeg support or figure out how to make gstreamer understand h264. Excellent. [05:26] Oh, thankfully there's a ffmpeg backend for gstreamer. YAY [05:50] hey guys how do i change the color of the active tab in xfce4-terminal ? [05:53] When upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04 the download of a particular package failed midway. Now my installation is stalled and there's no way to prod it back into action, should I ctrl c? [05:53] It says: Ctrl-c pressed This will abort the operation and may leave the system in a broken state. Are you sure you want to do this? [05:54] twilson_: are you upgrading from the terminal ? [05:54] There is a terminal in the Distribution Upgrade window [05:54] I'm using that [05:55] if it's in the middle of downloading then i don't think anything's updated/installed yet [05:55] i think you can cancel it and restart [05:55] it'll pick up from where it left off i believe [05:55] well I guess that's my only option [05:56] you should have the downloaded .deb's in /var/cache/apt [05:56] /var/cache/apt/archives actually :) [05:57] yeah [05:57] is the upgrade restated ? [05:57] restarted* [06:00] no ctrl c didn't abort anything [06:00] just close the upgrade window and restart the upgrade [06:01] There's no close button [06:01] I'm going to to have to kill the process [06:02] that'd work [06:02] so that worked, it killed the dropbox download and now it's continuing with the rest [06:03] and I doubt that anything else depends on dropbox so it should be ok [06:03] cool :) [06:03] twilson_: do you know how to change the color of the active tab in xfce4-terminal ? [06:05] no, sorry [06:06] there's colour choices in the preference dialog for the terminal [06:07] erhm there's only choices for text,curosr,background and tab activity [06:07] there's none for active tab color [06:08] you probably need to adjust the current xubuntu theme somehow [06:08] the active tab right now is a bit lighter color than the rest, so i think there's a setting somewhere [06:08] but it's very light difference and i can't really distinguish much [06:08] so it's the theme ? [06:08] seeing as tabs colours are the same for all xubuntu tabs, and not specific to terminal [06:09] I'd say so yes [07:59] I logged into Xubuntu 11.10 using the "Xfce Session" option out of curiosity. Now, when I go in using "Xubuntu Session" the panel over-lays part of the desktop, windows have no titlebar, I can't type in a Terminal session, Windows overlay the Panel, Alt-Tab doesn't work, etc. How do I get my Xubuntu working properly again? [08:00] SandJ: alt F2 "xfwm4 --replace" [08:00] and fix for next login, rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions [08:10] @Sysi: Thank you. [08:18] is there a ppa for xfce 4.10 final? [08:19] Anyone using Arch [08:20] Stark: maybe you can ask in #xubuntu-offtopic [08:21] Ok, anyone solved the wifi issue on laptop? [09:10] The xubuntu 12.04 64b live CD won't boot on this machine [09:11] it's a 64b machine, when booting (after the splash screen) I get a screen with something that looks like dmesg and it freezes there; it doesn't even allow me to Alt-SysRq-REISUB [09:11] maybe some graphics card issue? [09:12] (disk MD5 is ok) [09:12] (well, at least the ISO is ok... maybe there was a record error) [09:15] last messages are (newer to older): system_call_fastpath, sys_init_module, do_one_initcall, nouveau_init, ? 0xffffffffa0173fff, ? vga_switcheroo_register_handler. drm_pci_init, __pci_register_driver, driver_register ... [09:15] I'd try with another disk, or usb [09:15] any idea? tried Ctrl-Alt-F1 to F12 with no success [09:16] I could check the disk... but I don't have a computer with Linux and a CD drive [09:16] wait... I think I do [09:19] damn, the only computer with linux here is password-protected (and I don't know the password) [09:20] the CD should work, I tried it at home [09:22] any way to MD5 a CD from Windows? [09:22] cousteau`nbk, http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/ [09:24] does it work for CDs? (keep in mind this doesn't have /dev/cdrom) [09:27] right, i don't know [09:27] Hello! [09:28] quick question [09:28] I just got the notification from the update manager for ubuntu 12.04 [09:28] to update to 12.04 [09:28] should I download the update via the manager [09:28] or via the website [09:28] ? [09:28] as it said its an update for ubuntu not xubuntu [09:29] it says it's for ubuntu, but it will upgrade xubuntu [09:29] hmm, I typed "md5 cd windows" on duck duck go and got an MD5 of something... [09:29] iirc that's even in the release notes [09:29] ah! right [09:29] thanks! :) [09:29] Have a good day [09:29] np [09:29] you too [09:30] does the *ubuntu cd come with some sort of disk checker for Windows? [09:31] what do you mean with disk checker? [09:32] * cousteau`nbk tries "Check disc defects" [09:32] right, yeah, that should be good too [09:32] * cousteau`nbk gets exactly the same "error" as before: sorta like a dmesg [09:33] directly when you start checking, or a bit later? [09:33] interesting... when I press a key, the NumLock LED blinks [09:33] knome, directly when I select the option and hit enter [09:33] mmh :/ [09:34] * cousteau`nbk checks BIOS options [09:35] maybe some sort of "free software protection"... how do I check if the computer has something like that? (UEFI or something alike) [09:36] can I run the live CD in some sort of fail-safe mode? [09:37] there is the safe mode graphics, but that doesn't help if the disc has defects [09:37] and it doesn't help if you don't have problems with graphics [09:37] or wait [09:37] that's only alternate [09:37] :P [09:37] Unit193, halp [09:38] :P [09:40] * cousteau`nbk tries on another computer and AARGH it booted directly to Win XP [09:41] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootParameters not that, right? [09:42] * cousteau`nbk checks [09:42] guess what, the "other computer" is a 32b one [09:42] * cousteau`nbk angry === SandJ_II is now known as SandJ [09:46] hey, acpi=off noaic nolapic seems to work! [09:47] no idea what that means, though... [09:48] "If the boot parameter options worked for you, you will need to make permanent changes in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst after the installation has completed." [09:48] ye olde menu.lst... nostalgia kicks in [09:49] /etc/defualt/grub [09:49] Only spell it right. [09:49] :P [09:50] "Check finished: no errors found" [09:50] ok [09:50] "Press any key to reboot your system" [09:50] where's that key? (hurr hurr) [09:52] Top left, but not esc. [09:53] just curious, what do acpi=off, noapic and nolapic do? link? [09:54] * cousteau`nbk uses ddg.gg [09:55] you don't necessarily need all of them [09:56] yeah, I tried all of them and it worked... was going to try with just one of them, but I don't know which one(s) should I choose [09:59] acpi=off seems to be enough [10:00] but I don't get the fancy splash! only the text one [10:02] hmm... getting a black screen now... but it seems to work [10:02] oh, here it goes [10:03] ugliest resolution ever, but it works [10:05] step 2: install drivers (can this be done on a live cd session?) [10:06] what does xfce4-settings-helper do exactly? [10:09] xfce4-settings-helper - Settings daemon for Xfce [10:09] hmm, screen settings claims I'm using a refresh rate of 0.0 Hz [10:09] but it seems to go faster [10:09] I mean, I see frames... more than 1 [10:28] how can i install xfce 4.10 [10:29] f0x: ppa will be released soon [10:30] f0x, any specific reason why you want to upgrade? [10:30] why does medit have issues with shortcuts in 12.04 [10:30] used it in 11.10 and worked okay [10:44] greetings [10:44] I installed xfce on a clean 12.04 system and I seem to have trouble with my keyboard layout [10:44] Howdy. [10:45] it looks like US everywhere but it's a Dutch layout [10:45] I did choose the Netherlands as location when installing [10:45] XkbLayout is US, the Keyboard pane shows 102-key US [10:46] any hints on finding and changing the actual keyboard layout? [10:47] hm, nm, think I fixed it [10:47] thanks, this place is good inspiration [10:48] naturally [10:48] I messed with the keyboard layout, changed it a few times [10:48] went back to what I had before and now it works [10:48] * tga shrugs === jacky is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as jacky [11:02] cheers [13:25] hi, i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 the other day and now i get this notification icon (a letter with a small number printed on a black circle on the bottom right) whenever i change the audio volume. when you click on this icon, a list of notifications shows up, in this case telling me that the adio volume is now at xx percent. which is a rather useless presentation of this kind of information. [13:25] how can i get rid of this notification icon? [13:27] i have XFCE configured to "load the Gnome runtime environment" when starting up, maybe that's related. [14:28] I upgraded to xubuntu 12.04 and now my wireless won't work - I'm trying to run ifconfig up but I get Unknown Device for every variation of wlan and wlan0 etc [14:28] what should I do? [15:02] my keyboard shortcuts don't work anymore since upgrading to 12.04. only Print and Print work, others (predefined and my own shortcuts) don't work. [15:04] no ubuntu upgrade brought as much trouble for me as 11.10 -> 12.04 :/ [15:05] foobArrr: are your shortcuts involving Ctrl? [15:05] no, Super [15:06] well, ctrl + escape doesn't work ether [15:06] i'm running security onion to test out some of the features, but I want to get ntop installed. Is there a newer version nTop available for Xubuntu?? [15:07] foobArrr: do you see change in keykodes if you remap some of them? [15:08] change in keycodes? [15:09] in keyboard settings you can see which keys have commands been bind to, if for example Ctrl is changed to Primary by xorg update, they stop working [15:11] I'm not sure if I understand what you mean. I tried setting them again, setting them to instead of , both didn't work. [15:14] foobArrr: you talk about changing layouts, right? [15:14] Marzata: no [15:15] I'm talking about "Application Shortcuts" [15:16] foobArrr: ah, ok [15:16] I was wrong, the screenshot keys don't work either, they just make the screen / window flash white [15:18] wrong again, they do work. but the don't give me the xfce screenshot dialog, they directly store a screenshot in ~/Pictures [15:18] * foobArrr is confused [15:29] $ [15:32] compiz commands doesn't work either [15:33] Hi folks! [15:34] I'm having trouble umounting my drives in xubuntu 12.04 [15:34] me too italomaia [15:34] anyone had the same problem? I plug my pendrive and than I can't umount it [15:35] I have to use nautilus to unmount safely [15:35] nautilus? [15:35] do you? [15:35] martinphone, well, if i just wait enough time, it umounts eventually [15:35] alt+f2 nautilus [15:35] this could be a bug [15:36] thats odd italomaia [15:36] it unmounts by itself? [15:36] I don't have nautilus here [15:36] no. I umount it manually. [15:36] you mean you unplug it... [15:37] No, a really umount it than unplug [15:37] *then [15:37] terminal [15:37] no, through thunar [15:38] I think tumblerd is related to the issue. lsof says tumblr is creating thumbs [15:39] hi, i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 the other day and now i get this notification icon (a letter with a small number printed on a black circle on the bottom right) whenever i change the audio volume. when you click on this icon, a list of notifications shows up, in this case telling me that the adio volume is now at xx percent. which is a rather useless presentation of this kind of information. how can i get rid of this notification icon? [15:39] i have XFCE configured to "load the Gnome runtime environment" when starting up, maybe that's related. [15:40] the shortcuts in unity -> system settings -> keyboard work Oo [15:42] Yap, the issue is related to tumblerd [15:58] I think I'll restore 11.10 backups *sigh* [16:01] was 12.04 disasterous? =o i've seen issues, the classic bug with keyb psysical keys for volume mute (which could not be unmuted using these psy. buttons) are still present. [16:01] damn developers! ^^ [16:02] also, the issue with note/netbooks and three-finger-tap to rightclick, still not functioning like as desired =/ [16:02] only these two issues i've got, so far. [16:02] oxic`: That's funny...I found the mute/unmute problem on my laptop with 11.10, but NOT with 12.04 :) [16:03] drc: oh, it was fixed w/ your 12.04? =o nice, gotta check one more time then. [16:03] WFM (tm) :) [16:06] The only problem I'm having with 12.04 is the old "first opening of thunar takes forever". [16:15] I had issues with tumblerd blocking my usb devices [16:17] hey guys I'm trying to use alacarte to install a launch to the menu. Works fine exact the icon. The icon shows up in alacarte but not the menu. I tried restarting xfce4-panel but it didn't help. Does the icon need to be a certain size? [17:39] How does one change the menu layout? [18:14] is xfce 4.10 available for download now? [18:14] hi [18:14] xuserx: no [18:14] can anyone helme [18:14] help me [18:15] !ask xubuntu440 [18:15] i instaled 12.04 recently [18:15] !ask | xubuntu440 [18:15] xubuntu440: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [18:15] i am not able to double press any key button [18:16] i need to give half second time delay to use same key again [18:17] if i want to type tree, i need to give half sec time delay betwen tre(halfsec)e [18:17] are you ther? [18:18] anybody looking answer? [18:20] hello [18:21] hi [18:21] xubuntu440: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/keyboard [18:21] can install xubuntu to a mac powerbook g4 [18:21] without mac os [18:21] tnk u [18:21] baizon i will try now [18:21] np [18:22] hello [18:22] is it possible to install xubuntu in a mac powerbook g4 [18:22] without mac os [18:23] xubuntu297: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3kZ4Gw7-fs [18:23] where can i download a copy [18:23] so as you can see it is possible :) [18:24]