[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:39] <bambee> what about "Kawaii" ? (which means "cute" in japanese)
[12:21] <Riddell> bambee: slap it on the etherpad
[12:22] <apachelogger> congrats on precise
[12:24] <Riddell> thanks apachelogger :)
[12:41] <bulldog98> Riddell: where do we have that etherpad?
[12:43] <bambee> yeah congrats on precise, excellent release , really :)
[12:55] <rbelem> bulldog98, http://notes.kde.org/kubuntubrand
[12:56] <bulldog98> thanks
[13:51] <Riddell> bulldog98: are you still hoping to port ubiquity to QML?
[13:51] <Riddell> should we have a session on it at UDS?
[13:51] <bulldog98> Riddell: not this circle
[13:52] <bulldog98> I have to much to do for university to get to coding
[13:52] <bulldog98> and I think we might want to wait for QtQuick 2.0
[13:52] <Riddell> very sensible, too many people would say they'd do it even if too busy :)
[13:54] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what does "Debate adding pommed to Mac ISO's" mean?
[13:59] <bulldog98> rbelem: why don’t we have all patches of plasma active in our packages? I can see the point in some, but still we then could create an extra -active package for that
[14:03] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: Muon Discover is the name for the QML UI?  worth discussing at UDS?
[14:12] <apachelogger> bulldog98: why wait for qq2?
[14:12] <Riddell> Darkwing: are you wanting a session on docs?
[14:16] <Riddell> dantti: is print manager something we should be looking at for next cycle?
[14:33] <Riddell> afiestas_: yo, what sessions do you want at UDS?
[14:39] <Riddell> rbelem: anything kubuntu active to discuss at UDS?
[14:39] <afiestas_> Riddell: "Kubuntu release date", do we want to keep releasing same day as Ubuntu?
[14:39] <afiestas_> that would be one
[14:39] <afiestas_> brb
[14:40] <Riddell> afiestas_: didn't you want sessions with unity folks?
[14:41] <afiestas_> yes, I have a txt somewhere with sessions for both, Unity and Kubuntu
[14:41] <Riddell> afiestas_: we had the release date discussion years ago, I don't think anything has changed
[14:41] <afiestas_> give me 15min
[14:58] <Riddell> umm, imbrandon is on the UDS sponsorship list
[15:04] <rbelem> Riddell, yup...
[15:05] <rbelem> Riddell, lots of stuff...
[15:05] <rbelem> :-)
[15:05] <Riddell> rbelem: want me to register a session?
[15:13] <imbrandon> ahhhh home :)
[15:13] <Riddell> welcome back imbrandon!
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Well, I now have 2 important apps on the kde/Qt segfault merry-go-round
[15:18] <Riddell> rbelem: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-q-active
[15:20] <imbrandon> kk
[15:36] <rbelem> thanks Riddell 
[15:38] <Riddell> rbelem: can you edit the whiteboard there to add some bulletpoints as starters for discussion?
[16:01] <rbelem> Riddell, some points added :-)
[16:02] <bulldog98> rbelem: hey I already test it :P
[16:07] <rbelem> bulldog98, :-D i mean testers for more hardware
[16:07] <bulldog98> rbelem: ah
[16:07] <bulldog98> rbelem: maybe I should by a vivaldi tablet :)
[16:09] <rbelem> bulldog98, same here, do you know if it is available already?
[16:10] <bulldog98> rbelem: I think I read something about beeing avaidable this week, but maybe you should poke aseigo with that :)
[16:11] <rbelem> nice :-)
[16:25] <bulldog98> rbelem: btw do you have any idea for the error I get when I try to build some of the packages? see the ninja pad
[16:43] <rbelem> bulldog98, ninja pad?
[16:44] <bulldog98> rbelem: see topic
[16:53] <rbelem> bulldog98, seems to be a build depends error
[16:54] <rbelem> bulldog98, is it a unittest?
[16:55] <ScottK> qt4-x11 4.8.1 is in unstable.
[16:56] <bulldog98> rbelem: seems so
[16:59] <rbelem> bulldog98, is libssl-dev listed in the build deps?
[17:00] <bulldog98> rbelem: nope
[17:01] <bulldog98> rbelem: but it worked in 4.8.2, so why doesn’t it works now?
[17:12] <rbelem> bulldog98, they probably added something new
[17:13] <bulldog98> hm
[17:13] <bulldog98> but why in kde-wallpapers? e.g
[17:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: Macbook Pro's need a extra package called pommed to make special hardware keys like volume/backlight control by default 
[17:15] <ScottK> bulldog98: If adding libssl-dev to the build-deps doesn't fix it, I would ask cjwatson.  He made a number of late changes for openssl.
[17:15] <shadeslayer> And since we can seed universe packages into ISO's now, it should be default in the images from now on ( it's sepcific to Macintosh hardware which is why we just need to add it to mac specific seeds )
[17:16] <ScottK> I don't think our images have been demoted yet.
[17:16] <ScottK> I'd wait until after UDS.
[17:17] <shadeslayer> Right, but we are moving to universe for sure right?
[17:17] <ScottK> Dunno.
[17:17] <ScottK> I assume so, but I don't think a formal decision has been taken.
[17:17] <shadeslayer> oh ... hmm
[17:17] <shadeslayer> I assumed so as well, which is why I put that in for discussion
[17:18] <ScottK> I think it'll probably go that way.
[17:22] <shadeslayer> I hate mailman-owner day
[17:42] <nixternal> anyone here build the kubuntu cds familiar with the tools used?
[17:43] <shadeslayer> uh kind of
[17:43] <shadeslayer> I remember something to do with chrooting
[17:43] <nixternal> are you using live-build or ubuntu-cdimage?
[17:43] <shadeslayer> neither
[17:43] <nixternal> you don't the customization from scratch setup?
[17:43] <nixternal> s/don't/doing/
[17:44] <shadeslayer> oh nope, I downloaded the ISO, mounted it, chroot'd and upgraded some stuff
[17:44] <shadeslayer> nixternal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization#Obtain_the_base_system I think
[17:44] <shadeslayer> But that was like 18 months ago
[17:45] <nixternal> yeah, it works for testing a setup, but when you are building a derivative it isn't the best route
[17:45] <shadeslayer> true ... I'm not sure how LP builds the ISO's though
[17:45] <nixternal> documentation for the way ubuntu does it is so scarce it isn't even funny. thankfully turnkey puts most of their stuff out there so I can read their scripts & make sense of stuff
[17:46] <nixternal> mint doesn't put that much stuff out there, or if they do it is hidden
[17:46] <nixternal> well, cjwatson put out last year that they switched to live-build, and then i look at his bzr repos and there is ubuntu-cdimage. i am close to success with live-build and far from it with ubuntu-cdimage
[17:47] <nixternal> and i found ubuntu cd building documentation on a debian mailing list. 
[17:48] <shadeslayer> heh
[17:48] <nixternal> if i could figure out how to get 2 extra repos in live-build, i think i am golden. then i set everything up with either a trigger script or cron job and my client will be wicked happy
[17:49] <shadeslayer> nixternal: There's a question regarding that on ubuntu-devel :D
[17:49] <nixternal> and let me just say this, creating a derived ubuntu distro sucks. they aren't as logical as kubuntu is with packages & what not
[17:49] <shadeslayer> or that's what I think Chase is asking
[17:49] <nixternal> is it newer?
[17:50] <shadeslayer> nixternal: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-May/035171.html
[17:50] <nixternal> haha, damn
[17:50] <nixternal> might help if i read my email
[17:55] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Jonathan Kolberg * 30 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[18:53] <Darkwing> Riddell: Not nessesarilly... I had added to the list on the wiki of what I wanted so far.
[19:30] <rbelem> afiestas, ping
[19:34] <rbelem> agateau, ping
[19:53] <afiestas> rbelem: pong
[19:59] <rbelem> afiestas, i need help with a tableview and checkbox
[19:59] <rbelem> :-)
[19:59] <afiestas> rbelem: aha ?
[20:00] <rbelem> afiestas, the is at kde:scratch/belem/filesharing/filesharing.git
[20:00] <afiestas> can't check it just now :/ what problem are you having?
[20:01] <rbelem> afiestas, i need one checkbox inside a column and without spacing
[20:34] <Mamarok> how can bug 986744 be confirmed with that little information?
[20:50] <debfx> "confirmed" in launchpad means multiple people think they have encountered the same bug
[20:51] <debfx> so basically there is not much difference between new and confirmed
[21:03] <waterstorm> on which date kde 4.8.3. is going to release?
[21:05] <Ezim> waterstorm, http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.8_Release_Schedule
[21:06] <Ezim> I think our ninjas will bring it when they have time. it will be soon I think :).
[21:06] <waterstorm> Ezim: thank you for the information ! :-)
[21:07] <Ezim> waterstorm, np.
[21:20] <Mamarok> debfx: multiple people actually was just two, and the second one is mentioned nowhere
[21:21] <debfx> well two are multiple
[21:22] <Mamarok> still, there is close to no information, confirmed should only been set if it is reproducible with proper information, and I can't reproduce it
[21:25] <yofel_> Mamarok: no, *that* is what "Triaged" means, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[21:25] <Mamarok> yofel: right, you have triaged as well, I am more sued to bugzilla
[21:25] <debfx> launchpad just auto-confirms bugs when >= 2 people marked the bug as "affects me"
[21:26] <debfx> I have no idea why someone though enabling that feature for ubuntu is a good idea
[21:36] <maco> the kubuntu naming discussion..i just looked up "friend" in russian, as i had forgotten it.  if i romanize the letters:  drug
[21:36] <Mamarok> lol
[21:46] <Riddell> mm maybe not
[22:35] <nixternal> Mamarok: what is the package I need for the 'last.fm plugin' that amarok screams at me for? i know i used it just a couple of weeks ago, but that laptop is dead & i got a new one
[22:36] <nixternal> i can't stand listening to last.fm through anything other than amarok, because unlike everything else in the repos, you can crank up amarok loud and control the eq like a champ :)
[22:36] <Mamarok> nixternal: you talk about a self-compiled amarok?
[22:36] <nixternal> nah, in the repos
[22:36] <Mamarok> in the kubuntu package you need nothing more, just activate the last.fm plugin in the settings
[22:36] <nixternal> hrmm
[22:36] <Mamarok> enter your credentials
[22:37] <nixternal> when i try to pay tag radio it says i need a plugin and it pops up a little box asking if i want to search for the package, which doesn't work btw
[22:37] <Mamarok> nixternal: whut? That is weird
[22:39] <nixternal> The following plugin is required:  * LASTFM protocol source              Do you want to search for this now? [Search] [No]
[22:39] <nixternal> a 'Looking for plugins' dialog with a progress bar pops up and then goes away :/
[22:39] <Mamarok> where on earth does that come from, who packaged that?
[22:41] <Mamarok> that shouldn't happen, unless the package was compiled without last.fm support, only explanation I have for that
[22:41] <Mamarok> yofel: any ideas?