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r4yWhere do I download Ubuntu 10.04?02:55
Unit193http://releases.ubuntu.com02:56
r4yTY02:56
r4yCan these be torrented?03:03
Unit193I think it's http://torrents.ubuntu.com03:07
Unit193No "S", http://torrent.ubuntu.com03:08
r4yNice, TY man03:08
r4yI am confused. I want to get Ubuntu 10.04 for Desktop03:10
r4yAll I see if DVD not cd03:10
r4yso it's simple then, sorry03:12
r4yRight?03:12
r4ysimple then lucid, then desktop03:12
r4yI am guessing that is right.03:15
r4yI don't have permission to download from that server?03:17
AreckxI am trying to use my iphone as a webcam and mic for Skype on my Ubuntu 10.04 machine. Using the iPhone app for Skype is limited, and can only see my own video, and not the caller's, plus if I want to look at the camera, I am unable to look at the screen. I have iWebcamera installed on my iPhone.04:08
cnorris4664I am having trouble installing ubuntu 12.4 amd-64 on an asus p8z68-v pro. Anyone have any advice to get ubuntu installed and running on this mobo?04:37
IAmNotThatGuycnorris4664, when did you download this iso? and did you do a checksum over the disk ?04:37
cnorris4664about an hour ago and did not do a checksum however I have tried the beta a few times over the past couple weeks using both a usb install and most recently a cd install with the same thing that happens. I will get the ubuntu installation or boot screen then just black after that04:39
cnorris4664I think I have a uefi issue and saw some things on how to get around that but they all look relatively complicated. Is there any easy way to work with a uefo bios?04:39
IAmNotThatGuyplease do a checksum and verify it. There were issues with the 64 bit versions downloaded from the main site04:40
cnorris4664oh04:40
cnorris4664well I will check that right now04:40
cnorris4664well I was looking for an md5 file but couldn't ifnd it anywhere on the ubuntu site. I went ahead and pointed the torrent to my http download I did earlier. It checked the file and did not need to download any further which would make me think my iso is good?04:44
GeothstI was wondering if someone has the time to help me figure out if my usb wireless adapter works in Linux.05:06
GeothstI took what I believe to be the correct info from lspci and found something called a tg3 driver, but I have no idea how to compile it.05:06
GeothstThe readme is very vague, "The following are general guidelines for installing the driver."05:07
philipballewGeothst, pusb wifi adapter would be found in lsusb05:08
philipballewi think05:08
philipballewso your gonna wanna look there05:08
GeothstOh. I wonder if I'm looking at my onboard wired connection.05:10
philipballewits likely05:11
GeothstGah. I don't have access to a wired connection so I have to figure out how to use this USB thing.05:11
GeothstI'm using my android phone right now lol.05:11
philipballewwhat kinda usb thing is it?05:11
GeothstNetgear N900 Wireless Dual Band USB Adapter05:12
GeothstBus 001 Device 004: ID 0846:9012 NetGear, Inc.05:12
philipballewwhats the chipset?05:16
GeothstI have no idea.05:16
philipballewthats what you need to find05:16
philipballewtry lsusb -vvv05:16
Geothsthttp://pastebin.com/ymYjwYQs05:19
philipballewalso you can insert it and look at dmesg05:22
philipballewGeothst,05:26
Geothstdmesg has a lot of stuff in it. But I don't see anything with netgear or bus 001 device 004 or that ID either.05:27
philipballewGeothst, instert it and then type it05:27
philipballewalso did you google the thing with the words ubuntu next to it05:27
GeothstYeah all I found were two forum posts for people asking for help installing it, heh.05:29
Geothstno replies.05:29
philipballewtry askubuntu!05:29
philipballewthere pretty good. I can go all with you for hours giving you shell comands, but its finals week here and i got to study hard.05:30
GeothstWhat kind of information would be helpful to put with my question?05:30
philipballewlspci05:30
philipballewwait05:30
GeothstThe thing won't even power on.05:30
philipballewlspci -vvv lsusb -vvv dmesg05:31
philipballewmaybe its broken?05:31
GeothstIt works in windows. I dual boot.05:32
=== IAmNotThatGuy is now known as benonhardware
philipballewGeothst, okay. post in askubuntu and give me the link here. if onoone helps there in by friday I will solve it for you05:33
philipballewi have finals and cant devote much time to it now05:33
philipballewi am sorry05:33
GeothstNo worries, heh.05:34
GeothstThanks for your time anyway.05:34
philipballewyou are welcome.05:34
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GeothstEvidently support for this device does not exist. http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Netgear_WNDA410006:00
r4yI am having hard drive troubles I think, but I don't want to go to the other computer and change everything back to the other hard drive.06:17
r4yThat being said. My sister in law has children and doesn't know how to add back the menu applet with applications places and system06:18
r4yWhat's it called?06:18
r4yI there are 2 with the word menu in them06:18
r4yI know there are 2 applets with the word menu in them. Sorry for the bad English because of not being able to type what I am thinking well enough06:20
ankakusuhi!09:32
ankakusuwhere can I get information for downloading flash players to ubuntu?09:33
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prechnohi14:37
prechnoanyone can help?14:37
bobweavermangopearapples,  you here ?14:41
mangopearapplesYes14:41
bobweavercool14:41
bobweaverso tell every one what you would like too do14:41
bobweaverwith grub14:41
mangopearapplesI have grub installed and I want Windows 7 which is in sda2 to be at the top so if I leave my PC, it will automatically boot up Windows 7 instead of Ubuntu14:42
bobweaverthere is this14:43
bobweaver!grub14:43
ubot2GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)14:43
bobweaverbut I think that you are looking for this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS14:43
bobweavermangopearapples,  open terminal14:45
bobweaverenter in14:45
bobweaversudo gedit /etc/default/grub14:45
bobweavercrap14:45
mangopearapplesI tried backing up the list and I got this:14:45
mangopearapplescp: cannot stat `/boot/grub/menu.lst': No such file or directory14:45
bobweavergksudo  gedit /etc/default/grub14:45
mangopearapplesits empty..14:45
prechnoanyone having troubles with skype audio after upgrading to 12.04?14:46
mangopearapplesbobweaver, the file is empty for me14:46
bobweaverthat is not good14:46
bobweaverok mangopearapples  brb14:46
mangopearappleswait14:46
mangopearapplesmenu.lst is empty but then there's Untitled Document 114:46
mangopearappleswhich is loading...14:46
mangopearapplesthen in the terminal, I get14:47
mangopearapples(gksudo:4210): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",14:47
mangopearapples(gksudo:4210): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",14:47
mangopearapples(gksudo:4210): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",14:47
mangopearapples(gksudo:4210): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",14:47
bobweaverhat is ok14:47
bobweaverthat *14:47
mangopearapplesbut the menu being empty is not...14:47
bobweavermangopearapples,  do this please14:48
bobweavercat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit14:48
mangopearapplesnothing happened...14:48
bobweaverpress ctrl+c14:48
bobweaverdo again14:48
mangopearapplesI did14:49
mangopearapplesI can't even see my name before the command anymore14:49
mangopearapplesafter the errors14:49
mangopearapplesshould I restart the terminal?14:49
bobweaverpress ctrl+t14:49
bobweavernew tab pop up ?14:49
mangopearappleson the terminal?14:49
bobweaversorry shifft+ctrl+t14:49
mangopearapplesokay14:49
bobweaveryes in the terminal14:49
mangopearappleshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/960104/14:50
bobweaverthansk14:50
bobweaverok mangopearapples14:50
bobweaverin terminal14:50
bobweavergksudo gedit  /etc/default/grub14:51
bobweaverthis should pop up gedit with a file14:51
mangopearapplesshould I close the one I already have open then?14:51
mangopearapplesand the tab that I used to open it?14:51
bobweaveryes14:51
bobweaveryes14:51
bobweaverto both questions ^^14:51
bobweaverdo you see the line that says GRUB_DEFAULT=014:52
mangopearapplesyep, got it and its full of stuff14:52
bobweavermangopearapples,  ^^14:52
mangopearapplesyeah14:52
bobweaverthis is the line that we need to chang14:52
mangopearapplesokay14:52
bobweaverchange *14:52
bobweaverso please in terminal14:52
mangopearapplessda6 is 0 then?14:52
bobweaverno14:52
bobweaverwait mangopearapples14:52
bobweaverin terminal14:52
bobweaverin nwe tab in terminal14:53
bobweavernew *14:53
bobweaverdo14:53
bobweaversudo update-grub | pastebinit14:53
bobweaverthen let us see link14:53
mangopearapplesno link...14:54
mangopearapplesGenerating grub.cfg ...14:54
mangopearapplesFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-17-generic-pae14:54
mangopearapplesFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-17-generic-pae14:54
mangopearapplesFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-17-generic14:54
mangopearapplesFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-17-generic14:54
mangopearapplesFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-12-generic14:54
mangopearapplesFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-12-generic14:54
mangopearapplesFound memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin14:54
mangopearapplesFound Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda114:54
mangopearapplesFound Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda214:54
mangopearapplesdone14:54
mangopearapplesYou are trying to send an empty document, exiting.14:54
bobweaverit is ok mangopearapples14:55
bobweaverso this is what I see14:55
bobweaver<mangopearapples> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-17-generic-pae       = 014:56
mangopearapplesI see14:56
mangopearapplesso 9 = sda214:56
bobweaverso try this14:56
bobweavernope because of how grub is but close14:56
mangopearapplesoh okay14:56
bobweaverit should be 114:56
mangopearapples...14:56
mangopearappleswhy?14:56
bobweaver0 = ubuntu14:57
bobweaver1 = windows14:57
mangopearapplesoh14:57
bobweaverI think14:57
mangopearapplesso now I save it14:57
bobweaverso change that line in gedit14:57
mangopearapplesand reboot?14:57
bobweavermangopearapples,  no14:57
bobweaverafter changed run14:57
bobweaversudo update-grub14:57
bobweaverwhat deoes it find 1st ?14:57
mangopearappleshuh?14:57
mangopearapplesI got the same...14:58
bobweavernow reboot14:58
mangopearapplesFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-17-generic-pae14:58
bobweaveryou have too update 1st before rebooting14:58
mangopearapplesis first..14:58
mangopearapplesoh okay14:58
bobweaverwhat14:58
mangopearapplesbrb then14:59
bobweavercool14:59
mangopearapplesbobweaver15:01
bobweaverhey mangopearapples15:01
mangopearapplesthis time, it had the second one as default15:01
bobweaverwhat was 1st ?15:01
mangopearapplesit had the same order15:01
bobweaverso change till you get right15:01
mangopearapplesbut it had a differen't highlighted one15:01
bobweaveroh15:01
bobweaverrun15:01
bobweaversudo update-initramfs -u15:02
mangopearapplesnow what?15:03
mangopearapplesI changed the grub thing to 615:04
mangopearapplesnow I run update grub and reboot again?15:05
bobweaveryou got it15:05
mangopearapplesbrb again then15:06
mangopearapplesthanks bobweaver!15:10
mangopearapplesit worked!15:10
bobweaver \o/15:10
bobweaverNow go tell your friends :D15:10
mangopearappleslol thanks15:12
readerhai guys, I configured my virtual box guest os as Bridged adapter  and both guest and host can ping to each other. But the problem is when I disconnected the wifi I can't able to ping each other . how to ping when I am not in a wifi network16:54
JoseeAntonioRreader: You mean, when you have no Internet connection?16:55
readerJoseeAntonioR, yes16:55
JoseeAntonioRreader: You won't be able to, because pings are sent via a local network or via the Internet, and if you don't have one, you won't be able to connect both machines.16:56
JoseeAntonioRreader: I know it sounds weird, but having virtualbox is like having one PC next to the other one, even if it's in your actual PC.16:56
readerJoseeAntonioR, Is there any solution for ping each other,(host and  guest )16:57
JoseeAntonioRreader: If you don't have an Internet connection, nope, sorry.16:58
readerJoseeAntonioR, like guest use the host apache2 server16:58
readerJoseeAntonioR, I heard that it can possible through host-only settings but I dont know the setups16:59
JoseeAntonioRreader: Hmm, not sure, maybe with an ad-hoc network, but as I told you, I'm not sure it'll work.17:00
readerJoseeAntonioR, I saw in some videos using these kind of settings17:01
JoseeAntonioRreader: I recommend you to watch them again and follow the steps given in them17:02
JonEdneyAnyone familiar with getting a PCI NIC working on Ubuntu without manufacurer-supported drivers?19:13
bioterrorall the drivers are mostly not supported by the manufacturer19:14
JonEdneyI just got an old PC from a friend I'm trying to set up with 12.04 server to learn on, and the network interface jack on the MB don't work, so I went and picked up an NIC, but it dont work either19:15
JonEdneyWas wondering if anyone knew of a workaround.19:15
bioterrorgrab a 3Com 905C-TX ;)19:15
bioterrorworks out of the box19:16
bioterroror any intel device19:16
JonEdneyI'll have to look into that bioterror, was low on cash so just grabbed a $10 card19:17
beachbuddahHi all - anybody have any idea how to get 3D out of an Radeon 6770 HD on 12.0419:20
bioterrorinstall drivers19:20
beachbuddahfglrx?19:21
bioterroryes, that's probably the "catalyst"19:21
bioterrormy card is 4350 or something like that I'm using the opensource one19:21
beachbuddahyes - it's in and shows as working, but I get messages that I am only 2d or that the driver isn't inswtalled or not working properly19:22
beachbuddahthere is another?  an opensource?19:22
ray_Hello19:23
beachbuddahHello ray19:23
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r4yI want to know with jack control should I choose to enable realtime process priority or not?19:24
r4yI am running Ubuntu 10.04 and I just installed19:25
r4yI used jack control before but I am still unsure19:25
holsteinr4y: if you want realtime19:25
r4yWhat channel should I ask this question?19:25
holsteinr4y: this one19:25
r4yOK, sorry.19:26
r4yWhat do you think?19:26
holsteinr4y: or #ubuntustudio, or #opensourcemusicians .. but it'll be me answering there too ;)19:26
holsteinr4y: if you want it, enable it.. i do19:26
holsteindont overthink it... just tick the box and proceed ;)19:26
r4yLOL, OK I wasn't sure. I know it requires tampering.19:27
holsteinit shouldnt19:28
r4yIt's a good thing I made a text file for this on my other hard drive. Is it for how far apart the sound comes out of the speaker from when an instrument is played?, The delay of time. There will always be a delay in time but a great setup will be hard to tell from it.19:29
holsteinwith JACK, thats the least of your concerns19:29
holsteinr4y: latency19:29
r4yI remember having a problem19:29
r4yYes, that's it19:29
holsteinr4y: probably doesnt matter to most.. if you are using live effects processing, or software synthesisers live you need it19:30
r4yIt had me going to some text file to change group permissions19:30
holsteinotherwise, who cares if you hit the play button and it takes half a second to hear it?19:30
holsteinscoot up closer to the speakers ;)19:30
holsteini argue, most folks dont need low latency, but waste a lot of time getting it19:31
r4yThe only problem is if someone wants to dub over what they recorded19:31
r4yI don't have that problem though19:31
holsteini typically mix/record and use JACK at like 60+ms19:31
holsteinbut, my rig can do 1.219:31
holsteinr4y: nah.. ardour/JACK corrects for latency when overdubbing19:31
holsteinso, you dont need in in that scenario19:32
holsteinr4y: just the 2 cases i mentioned above really19:32
holsteinanything where you need to hear what you are playing in "realtime"19:32
holsteinhence the name19:32
r4yI've never tried. I had trouble with my lightsnake cord, or at least I read that because the lightsnake usb cord has a sound card that it's hard to get 2 sound cards working at the same time but that was a few years ago19:33
holsteinusing 2 cards is more hassle than its worth19:33
holsteinyou can do it pretty easy with pulseaudio though19:34
holsteinJACK is usually overkill for most things anyways19:34
r4yRight. I remember the conversation we had a little. I made notes of it to remember19:34
holsteinglad you do19:35
r4yI didn't make note of the fact that buzzing or humming would happen from using a small jack from the back of the computer. I just remembered19:35
holsteintheres netjack and jacktrip where you could have 2 machines using different sound devices19:36
r4yI wasn't trying to argue with you on that one, sorry19:36
holsteinr4y: you're welcome to argue all you like :)19:36
r4yI don't. You guys are more knowledgeable about computers then I am.19:37
r4yI mean I don't want to19:37
holsteinr4y: your attitude is appreciated19:37
r4yI tried Unity. I switch back to Ubuntu 10.04.419:37
holsteinin 12.04?19:38
r4yLately I have had some trouble with backing up and I wanted to make sure I knew what Ubuntu distro version I wanted19:39
r4yI tried 12.04, yes, I tried Unity and I tried gnome classic but I didn't like it19:39
holsteinits pretty nice there i think... useable... i dont use it, but its totally useable now... its a matter of time til you just wont like the state of things with gnome219:39
holstein^^ you can notice that i didnt specify "ubuntu 10.04"19:40
r4ythe options for appearance aren't to my liking, but maybe that will change19:40
r4yThey are currently limited19:40
holsteingnome2 is limiting as well.. just differently19:41
r4yYes, I was confused about what gnome, but now I know gnome 3 is Unity, or am I wrong?19:41
holsteinanyways, you dont have to like it.. i dont... i just think its useable now19:41
holsteinr4y: yeah, gnome3 is just that19:41
holsteinunity is different19:41
holsteinr4y: most folks who liked gnome2 are moving to XFCE and doing fine with it19:42
holsteinxubuntu is ubuntu with XFCE19:42
r4yIt's like anything. It takes time to get used to19:42
holsteinubuntustudio 12.04 is ubuntu with XFCE19:42
holsteinr4y: right, but what im saying is, it actually doesnt take much time sinces its quite similar19:43
holsteingnome2 and XFCE19:43
escottr4y, gnome3 and unity take similar approaches from a user interaction standpoint, but are different. they use the same set of libraries. if you hate one you will probably hate the other. if you find one midly annoying but mostly good the othe might be what you want19:43
r4yI've wondered about sticking to Ubuntu versions that will not have LTS at some point?19:43
r4yI am thinking about sticking with Ubuntu 10.04 for good19:44
holsteinr4y: 12.04 is LTS19:44
r4yI've also thought about trying debian19:45
holsteinr4y: its EOL in less than a year19:45
holsteinthe desktop 12.04 version is EOL19:45
r4yWhat does EOL stand for?19:45
holsteinend of life19:45
holsteinr4y: you can use it as long as you like, but updates will not be provided19:46
holsteinnow is the time to snuggle up with 12.04 for 5 years though :)19:46
r4yMaybe next time I will try a newer version of Ubuntu through vmware19:46
r4yI don't feel that way now, but to each there own19:47
holsteinr4y: by proxy.. xubuntu 12.04 is an LTS19:47
r4yI could try xubuntu through vmware19:47
r4yI need to back my other hard drive soon first19:48
r4yI am thinking it was my hard drive cable that caused my hard drive to have troubles. I am just glad my info is on the other hard drive instead.19:50
r4yI had to switch my CD-rom and cable and my hard drive cable then Ubuntu 10.04 was able to install. It all start though with having trouble writing to this hard drive which makes me think it is the hard drive cable19:52
r4yWith Spinrite it even said the cable had an error19:52
r4yI think19:52
r4yAnyways. TY for talking to me holstein.19:53
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kristian-aalborghey ppl21:51
kristian-aalborgwhat's the hep ftp client these days?21:51
kristian-aalborgfilezilla?21:52
mysteriousdarrenyes'21:52
Unit193!info ftp21:54
Unit193Terminal client.21:55
mysteriousdarrenfor a gui yes21:55
kristian-aalborgI guess they have Firefox funds?22:06
kristian-aalborgnot that it really matters22:06
kristian-aalborg(except it does)22:07
kristian-aalborgmysteriousdarren, what would you suggest if it's CLI?22:07
geirhalftp or ncftp22:08
mysteriousdarrenagreed22:08
mysteriousdarrenkristian-aalborg: do you need a gui? or going for a cli?22:09
kristian-aalborgwell, I never used ftp that much22:11
kristian-aalborgI will probably like both, and then use the CLI more and more22:11
michaelai tried to install ubuntu 12.04 on my gateway gt5656 and the boot splash wont work22:31
mysteriousdarrenkristian-aalborg: filezilla22:45
synaptix|ubuntu+1 for filezilla22:47
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