| mlankhorst | RAOF: yeah, but still trying to get a hold of jasoncwarner_ :) | 00:05 |
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| TheMuso | mlankhorst: Afaik he is traveling/in the US now and likely recovering. | 00:06 |
| RAOF | Yeah, that was my thought. He's usually available. | 00:07 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: We should probably have some form of screen-attachment hack for the colour calibration session - the colourhug itself doesn't have any way to attach to a screen. Probably some elastic would do. | 00:21 |
| cyphermox | EDS SRU coming up... | 00:37 |
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| jasoncwarner_ | hey AU folk...how is everything? | 04:23 |
| jasoncwarner_ | robert_ancell RAOF TheMuso bryceh ^^ (bryce is honorary AU folk...and robert_ancell is still "AU") | 04:24 |
| RAOF | Peachy. | 04:24 |
| robert_ancell | jasoncwarner_, no AU here | 04:24 |
| robert_ancell | jasoncwarner_, first day done? | 04:24 |
| jasoncwarner_ | robert_ancell: AU jr. ? | 04:24 |
| RAOF | I've just discovered that you can run piuparts locally! | 04:25 |
| robert_ancell | RAOF is on the western island | 04:25 |
| jasoncwarner_ | robert_ancell: oh man...sooooo tired. was up since 4am local time, but I've gotten like 7 hours total sleep since waking up AU sunday | 04:25 |
| RAOF | Mmmmm, international. | 04:25 |
| bryceh | jasoncwarner_, *wave* | 04:25 |
| RAOF | robert_ancell: With the *really big* north island above me? :) | 04:26 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey bryceh and RAOF ? for ya on X...when are we going to get rid of frankenserver and bring down new x stack for Q? I remember us saying we wanted to do that early in the cycle, but wasn't sure *how* early | 04:27 |
| jasoncwarner_ | something we should do soon? | 04:28 |
| bryceh | guess it's probably not time critical | 04:28 |
| bryceh | traditionally we wait until the week or so after UDS | 04:28 |
| jasoncwarner_ | bryceh: should we do it sooner rather than later? or ...not matter? | 04:29 |
| jasoncwarner_ | k | 04:29 |
| RAOF | There's not a lot of people using quantal at this point, and even if there were, now that proposed works we'll be able to smoothly upgrade anyway. | 04:29 |
| bryceh | would be inconvenient to break everyone just as they're getting ready to fly out :-) | 04:29 |
| jasoncwarner_ | bryceh and RAOF cool...ok, so about the week after UDS...works for me. | 04:30 |
| bryceh | RAOF, I'm thinking less about transition troubles, more about just plain old X bugs. But yeah, not many people will be running it right now, it probably doesn't matter too much one way or the other | 04:30 |
| RAOF | Previously the rationale for early X transitions was that they broke stuff. | 04:31 |
| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF and that is what I'm worried about now. though, Chase says we shouldn't have issues with input b/c all that stuff is upstream? but, week after UDS seems as good as any | 04:32 |
| TheMuso | jasoncwarner_: Hey there, hope your travels were uneventful. | 04:32 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey TheMuso ! Yeah, so far so good. nothing too stressful :) thanks for asking! | 04:33 |
| RAOF | jasoncwarner_: But this time around we *won't* break stuff, except in the case of bugs; it'll be like Precise, where people didn't notice that we did a server transition. | 04:33 |
| RAOF | Except maybe nvidia & fglrx ;) | 04:33 |
| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF: always fun with those two ;) | 04:33 |
| RAOF | Yup! | 04:34 |
| kenvandine | jasoncwarner_, are you in oakland already? | 04:57 |
| jasoncwarner_ | kenvandine: yuppers! | 04:57 |
| kenvandine | cool, good trip? | 04:57 |
| jasoncwarner_ | kenvandine: yeah, no drama. oak is nice enough | 04:59 |
| jasoncwarner_ | found a decent gym ;) | 04:59 |
| kenvandine | cool, you'll be all rested by the time i get there :) | 05:00 |
| RAOF | jasoncwarner_: Nice and close? | 05:01 |
| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF: yeah, right around the corner...works! | 05:02 |
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| dupondje | Got some odd bug every 10 boots with Gnome-shell | 08:49 |
| dupondje | it boots fine, logging in, but then I get an incomplete gnome-shell. Like not everything loads. | 08:50 |
| dupondje | No errors, but it stops loading. Need to kill gnome-shell to get it working again. | 08:50 |
| dupondje | Any idea's how to debug that & give it a bugreport :) | 08:50 |
| mlankhorst | anything suspicious in ~/.xsession-errors ? | 08:58 |
| dupondje | ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area | 09:02 |
| dupondje | ** Message: using fallback from indicator to GtkStatusIcon | 09:02 |
| dupondje | ** Message: applet now embedded in the notification area | 09:02 |
| dupondje | nothing else | 09:02 |
| Laney | quiet today | 09:09 |
| Laney | is it a holiday or something? :P | 09:09 |
| dupondje | it is | 09:09 |
| mlankhorst | dupondje: hm doesn't really look interesting :( | 09:10 |
| dupondje | mlankhorst: Indeed :) but its quite annoying sometimes. You boot, and bam, gnome-shell refuses to do its work :P | 09:11 |
| mlankhorst | noon | 12:30 |
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| * Laney is merging bluez | 15:19 | |
| cyphermox | Laney: there are changes slangasek wanted to land, for python3 | 15:22 |
| Laney | cool | 15:22 |
| Laney | are they anywhere? | 15:22 |
| cyphermox | yes, just a second | 15:22 |
| Laney | shame they weren't in the udd branch | 15:23 |
| cyphermox | https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/ubuntu/quantal/bluez/python3/+merge/103795 | 15:23 |
| cyphermox | there may be a little work to fix things, see barry's review | 15:24 |
| Laney | i'll have a look | 15:25 |
| cyphermox | we can always apply that later though | 15:25 |
| Laney | may be easier to ubuntu2 it, yeah | 15:26 |
| cyphermox | there's something else that may be nice too, though it would require discussing with the Debian maintainer | 15:26 |
| cyphermox | splitting hid2hci into a separate package like Fedora does... hid2hci enabled and isntalled by default is a major pain, although I agree it's helpful to some people | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: ^^ | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | but I'll happily take care of that later | 15:28 |
| Laney | yeah | 15:29 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, without it, bluetooth just doesn't work at all on my dell laptop | 15:29 |
| chrisccoulson | and it's not exactly uncommon hardware | 15:29 |
| chrisccoulson | i've got 2 dell laptops that both require it | 15:29 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess seb128 has the same hardware in his too | 15:29 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: right, but there's also issues with logitech devices that we can't really fix, because they appear to share USB IDs | 15:30 |
| cyphermox | maybe getting rid of some of the rules may be better then | 15:30 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that might be better | 15:30 |
| cyphermox | or figuring out why your hardware requires that, seems very weird | 15:30 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: did you send me the USB IDs for your bluetooth device? | 15:31 |
| cyphermox | and/or the model of the laptop, then maybe I can mess with it again in the hardware lab | 15:31 |
| cyphermox | the Logitech rules appear to be the most problematic | 15:32 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, http://paste.ubuntu.com/960212/ | 15:32 |
| chrisccoulson | it's a dell e6410 | 15:32 |
| cyphermox | interesting | 15:33 |
| cyphermox | that does look like something that should be working out of the box from the kernel driver :/ | 15:33 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: it's integrated, right? | 15:33 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, yeah | 15:34 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:34 |
| chrisccoulson | although, i did fit this one myself | 15:34 |
| chrisccoulson | but it's the one that dell normally fit to their laptops | 15:34 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:34 |
| cyphermox | there's some chance we have that in the lab, so I'll try this Thursday or so when I get in the office | 15:34 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: ah, that was for a suspend issue? | 15:36 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, i don't recall having a suspend issue | 15:37 |
| cyphermox | nm, I'm misreading the rule | 15:37 |
| cyphermox | yeah, I guess it would have to be just removing the Logitech rules | 15:38 |
| cyphermox | Laney: if you want to take care of it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/269851 seems like the "fix" would be to not switch either that particular logitech device (c714) or dropping the Logitech rules altogether; because those are normally external dongles that support keyboard and mouse; and using those on a liveCD or installer is problematic, since you wouldn't have pairings yet, and need | 15:40 |
| cyphermox | another keyboard or mouse to make one :) | 15:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 269851 in bluez "Bluetooth Logitech Dinovo Edge Keyboard/Mouse does not work anymore" [Medium,Incomplete] | 15:40 |
| cyphermox | otherwise I'll add it to my todo and get back to it in a few days | 15:42 |
| Laney | cyphermox: I'd be a bit leery changing it without being able to test | 15:43 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:43 |
| cyphermox | I can only test my own dongle though, that's not covering the same device as in the bug either :( | 15:44 |
| cyphermox | but I can definitely attest to how much it's a pain to make the original pairing and find an extra keyboard and mouse :) | 15:44 |
| Laney | amen | 15:45 |
| Laney | I'm adding some more 2to3 stuff and then I'll push it up | 15:45 |
| Laney | you can sit on it and smush your changes on top when you get a chance | 15:45 |
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| cyphermox | Laney: feel free to upload your changes, I'll make another revision after thinking about it some more | 15:47 |
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| Laney | well i need sponsoring anyway | 15:47 |
| cyphermox | oh | 15:47 |
| cyphermox | then I'll sponsor it whenever it's ready | 15:47 |
| Laney | righto | 15:47 |
| Laney | give me a few mins | 15:48 |
| cyphermox | sure, np | 15:48 |
| Laney | cyphermox: there you go, you should have mail | 16:54 |
| Laney | bbl | 16:54 |
| cyphermox | ok | 16:57 |
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| cyphermox | Laney: what were the changes you made on top of the python3 patch for bluez? | 17:44 |
| Laney | cyphermox: I guess the tests saw some changes in the new upstream; it was catching some remaining unconverted stuff | 17:58 |
| Laney | I meant to do it in a separate commit but forgot | 17:59 |
| cyphermox | oh ok, cool :) | 17:59 |
| cyphermox | I was asking because I couldn't see the one thing that barry mentioned that we can't work without -- raw_input() -> input() otherwise I guess it would crash | 17:59 |
| cyphermox | I fixed it here, I'll build and test and upload | 17:59 |
| Laney | oh, I did do that, hang on | 17:59 |
| cyphermox | oops | 18:00 |
| Laney | ok | 18:00 |
| Laney | no worries :-) | 18:00 |
| cyphermox | used dch -at, you still get the credit ;) | 18:00 |
| * cyphermox thinks about upgrading to quantal tomorrow | 18:01 | |
| jbicha_ | cyphermox: beware bug 992745 then | 18:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 992745 in libxfont "X doesn't load in Quantal, downgrading libxfont1 to Precise version fixes it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/992745 | 18:07 |
| cyphermox | ahahah | 18:07 |
| cyphermox | jbicha_: awesome, thanks! | 18:07 |
| jbicha_ | the Internet tells me we're getting rid of X anyway :) | 18:08 |
| cyphermox | yeah, who needs X. Menus are for restaurants! | 18:08 |
| cyphermox | fortunately, one of the first things I will be working on will be the CLI interface for NM, don't need X for that... but I'll just set up pinning now so that I don't have to worry about it when I run the upgrade | 18:09 |
| mdeslaur | cyphermox: lol @ "Menus are for restaurants" :) | 18:12 |
| dupondje | Quantal is open tomorrow ? :) | 18:17 |
| dupondje | mmm :D | 18:17 |
| dupondje | tempting :) | 18:17 |
| dobey | quantal is already open | 18:20 |
| Laney | wide open | 18:23 |
| dupondje | mmm open :) | 18:24 |
| cyphermox | dupondje: just waiting until tomorrow because I took the day off for other reasons, so I'll have time to deal with the breakage now | 18:26 |
| MrChrisDruif | Hai everyone | 21:49 |
| MrChrisDruif | jbicha_ referred me to this channel | 21:50 |
| MrChrisDruif | desrt; I heard you like GNOME Shell as well? | 21:52 |
| MrChrisDruif | jbicha_; do you happen to know the timezone of desrt ? | 22:15 |
| desrt | MrChrisDruif: just got off of a plane, so now it's -7 | 22:17 |
| jbicha_ | MrChrisDruif: I'm sure he'll be around in a bit, he lives in Toronto but I'm not convinced he sleeps :) | 22:17 |
| * desrt waits for his bags while distchecking glib :) | 22:17 | |
| MrChrisDruif | And *naturally* you check into irc while you wait ^_^ | 22:18 |
| jbicha_ | desrt: are you in Oakland? | 22:18 |
| desrt | SFO presently | 22:18 |
| desrt | i'll be getting on the BART shortly, though, assuming my bags are here | 22:18 |
| desrt | MrChrisDruif: i'm late for a glib release and i did most of the work on the plane. i want to get the upload done ASAP | 22:18 |
| desrt | jbicha_: you coming next week? | 22:19 |
| jbicha_ | desrt: two glib releases in one day? | 22:19 |
| desrt | jbicha_: stable and unstable | 22:19 |
| jbicha_ | desrt: I'll get in Wednesday night, a bit late to the party but it'll still be fun! | 22:19 |
| desrt | wednesday tomorrow or 8 days from now? | 22:20 |
| jbicha_ | 8 days | 22:20 |
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| desrt | ya. a bit late :) | 22:20 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well, will be a few days better then I will do this uds | 22:20 |
| MrChrisDruif | So it's around 5:22 where you are desrt ? | 22:23 |
| MrChrisDruif | pm* | 22:23 |
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