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| ScottK | It would be useful if someone would look and see what we need to do to kill python-wxgtk2.6 in quantal. It's already gone in Debian. | 16:11 |
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| tumbleweed | I seem to recall you pointing at wx related issues in precise too | 16:11 |
| ScottK | I may have. | 16:12 |
| ScottK | It's one of those things I think should be done, but I've not got time to look into myself. | 16:13 |
| * tumbleweed has bug 948944 open in my browser, probably for a while :) | 16:14 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 948944 in wxwidgets2.8 (Ubuntu) "after upgrade from oneiric python applications may use the wrong version of wxpython and fail as a result" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/948944 | 16:14 |
| * tumbleweed may put some time into them this evening. But first, going out for dinner and beer! | 16:16 | |
| ScottK | beer sounds like an appropriate preparation for working on wx stuff. | 16:19 |
| jtaylor | nice I broke my wx installation by installing 2.6 | 16:22 |
| tumbleweed | oO) maybe jtaylor can fix it before I get back ) | 16:22 |
| jtaylor | I don't even know how to fix my own installation | 16:23 |
| jtaylor | I reinstalled everything and purged 2.6 :/ | 16:23 |
| jtaylor | still broken | 16:23 |
| tumbleweed | nice | 16:23 |
| jtaylor | /usr/lib//python2.7/dist-packages/wx.pth does not get reinstalled for some reason | 16:28 |
| jtaylor | hurray reinstalling python-wxversion fixed it | 16:31 |
| tumbleweed | the wxwidgets2.6 removal affects beauties like this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/encadre-image | 19:48 |
| tumbleweed | same upstream version since feisty | 19:48 |
| jtaylor | neat | 19:48 |
| * tumbleweed looks to see if it works with 2.7 | 19:49 | |
| tumbleweed | err 8 | 19:49 |
| jtaylor | I actually wanted a newer version of wxformbuilder recently, another one of those ubuntu only never updated one | 19:50 |
| jtaylor | I looked into it and it embeds a library not available ubuntu (ticpp) | 19:50 |
| jtaylor | I don't really fell like properly maintaining both full scale in debian to satisfy my short term need for it | 19:51 |
| tumbleweed | that's one of the reasons I created http://ubuntu-dev.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/neglected-packages.cgi We should encaurage people to look at it... (and host it on ubuntuwire, so it's faster) | 19:52 |
| jtaylor | but others might profit from an updated version not up to debian standards but equal to what is already there | 19:52 |
| jtaylor | can I upload it including the embedded library to ubuntu? | 19:52 |
| * tumbleweed supposes you could. but IANAAA | 19:53 | |
| Laney | you shouldn't have looked | 19:54 |
| Laney | now it is on your conscience :P | 19:54 |
| tumbleweed | :) | 19:54 |
| Laney | seriously though, it is important to think about whether dumping something you intend at the outset not to care for is a good idea | 19:58 |
| jtaylor | yes but we already have something outdated in the archive, the alternative is to remove it or leave it rotting | 20:00 |
| jtaylor | in this case the package is still usable though so rotting may be ok | 20:00 |
| tumbleweed | reintroduction in Debian, by someone who cares about it, is preferable to rotting | 20:00 |
| tumbleweed | assuming the rot is already well set-in | 20:00 |
| jtaylor | it was never in debian | 20:01 |
| tumbleweed | no reason it couldn't be, in its next life :) | 20:01 |
| jtaylor | not by me, and its not exactly an easy target for a newcomer | 20:03 |
| jtaylor | you need to know a bunch of unusual stuff for proper maintenance | 20:03 |
| jtaylor | e.g. lua, premake | 20:04 |
| jtaylor | though updating the ubuntu package as is is a breeze, just get-orig-source and build :) | 20:04 |
| jtaylor | easier than trying to install from upstreams mess of a distribution | 20:05 |
| tumbleweed | I do worry that the rotting packages cause an unecessary drain on MOTU | 20:05 |
| tumbleweed | but yeah, the bar for an existing ubuntu-only package is pretty low | 20:05 |
| dupondje | tumbleweed: maby add popularity next to the list of neglected packages | 20:17 |
| dupondje | guess there are ton of packages nobody uses. | 20:17 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, that's a useful column | 20:18 |
| jtaylor | that page doesn't load for me :( | 20:18 |
| tumbleweed | give it a few years | 20:19 |
| dupondje | jtaylor: just wait a bit ... :) | 20:19 |
| tumbleweed | let's see if I can get it working on syklone before it loads for you... | 20:19 |
| jtaylor | been waiting 20 minutes already | 20:20 |
| jtaylor | though I had a disconnect in between | 20:20 |
| tumbleweed | why on earth did I make this a CGI? | 20:20 |
| jtaylor | now it loaded | 20:21 |
| jtaylor | quite a log :O | 20:21 |
| jtaylor | lot | 20:21 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: btw, finally got around to doing the report that was the cause for my ubuntu_upload_history involvement: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/debian-ubuntu-developers/ | 20:22 |
| Laney | heh | 20:23 |
| tumbleweed | I seem to remember taking a workitem for that last UDS | 20:23 |
| Laney | what for? | 20:23 |
| tumbleweed | can't remember. Presumabyl debian healthcheck | 20:24 |
| ajmitch | tumbleweed: anything you need changed on ubuntuwire to get some of that stuff on there? :) | 20:25 |
| tumbleweed | ajmitch: laney pointed out last night that debian's UDD hasn't been importing *sources tables. Time for us to do more than just load dumps? :) | 20:25 |
| tumbleweed | (I'm not particularly serious there, but it probably does affect some reports) | 20:25 |
| Laney | apparently it is getting a new machine | 20:26 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, I think we kicked off the replace-ancient-machines movement | 20:26 |
| ajmitch | tumbleweed: what'd be required on our side for that? | 20:26 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: do we know the timeframe for the new UDD machine? | 20:27 |
| * tumbleweed looks for bits from zack | 20:27 | |
| Laney | no | 20:27 |
| Laney | ask zobel in #-qa | 20:27 |
| Laney | i think it is pretty imminent though | 20:28 |
| * tumbleweed does that | 20:28 | |
| ajmitch | tumbleweed: is a UDS session needed about any of this, or maybe rolled into another session? | 20:30 |
| ajmitch | or JFDI | 20:30 |
| tumbleweed | ajmitch: seriously. It's only a short-time issue (we hope) so I think we just sit it out | 20:30 |
| ajmitch | ok | 20:31 |
| tumbleweed | dupondje: don't you feel like merging xaralx? | 20:32 |
| tumbleweed | test-built the version in sid, FTBFS | 20:32 |
| dupondje | hoh | 20:39 |
| dupondje | I tought I checked that for oneiric | 20:39 |
| tumbleweed | we do have a new gcc... | 20:40 |
| dupondje | hmz, current debian version is ftbfs ? | 20:42 |
| dupondje | due to ? | 20:42 |
| tumbleweed | dupondje: http://people.ubuntu.com/~stefanor/tmp/xaralx_0.7r1785-5_amd64.build | 20:43 |
| * dupondje should start working for Canonical :) | 20:48 | |
| Laney | if you're referring to that URL, all Ubuntu members get that | 20:49 |
| dupondje | ah no :) | 20:49 |
| dupondje | i'm still not ubuntu member btw :P | 20:50 |
| dupondje | tumbleweed: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52725 seems related | 20:53 |
| ubottu | gcc.gnu.org bug 52725 in c++ "error: capture of non-variable (in regards to a variable)" [Normal,Unconfirmed: ] | 20:53 |
| tumbleweed | we could just remove the package. Debian removed it from testing years ago :) | 20:56 |
| dupondje | let me check, shouldn't be to hard to fix :) | 20:59 |
| dupondje | bleh, pbuilder-dist doesn't know quantal | 20:59 |
| dupondje | ;) | 20:59 |
| tumbleweed | it should | 21:00 |
| tumbleweed | what release are you on? | 21:00 |
| dupondje | Precise | 21:01 |
| tumbleweed | you will need to create a quantal rootfs, of course | 21:01 |
| jtaylor | do you ahve debootstrap from backports? | 21:03 |
| dupondje | nopes :) | 21:04 |
| dupondje | ok, i'm running :) | 21:06 |
| dupondje | thx | 21:06 |
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| dupondje | tumbleweed: fixed that one, getting this now | 21:34 |
| dupondje | imjpeg.cpp:773:37: error: 'JPEG_LIB_VERSION' was not declared in this scope | 21:34 |
| tumbleweed | sounds liek a missing include | 21:35 |
| tumbleweed | or something related to the jpeg library switch we did | 21:35 |
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| tumbleweed | dupondje: added popcon: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/ubuntu-neglected-packages/ | 22:54 |
| tumbleweed | (statically generated. can't cron it until we have quantal in ubuntu_sources) | 22:54 |
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