=== bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 === sagaci__ is now known as sagaci === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === jalcine is now known as jacky === jbicha is now known as Guest90485 === Guest90485 is now known as jbicha_ [16:11] It would be useful if someone would look and see what we need to do to kill python-wxgtk2.6 in quantal. It's already gone in Debian. [16:11] I seem to recall you pointing at wx related issues in precise too [16:12] I may have. [16:13] It's one of those things I think should be done, but I've not got time to look into myself. [16:14] * tumbleweed has bug 948944 open in my browser, probably for a while :) [16:14] Launchpad bug 948944 in wxwidgets2.8 (Ubuntu) "after upgrade from oneiric python applications may use the wrong version of wxpython and fail as a result" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/948944 [16:16] * tumbleweed may put some time into them this evening. But first, going out for dinner and beer! [16:19] beer sounds like an appropriate preparation for working on wx stuff. [16:22] nice I broke my wx installation by installing 2.6 [16:22] oO) maybe jtaylor can fix it before I get back ) [16:23] I don't even know how to fix my own installation [16:23] I reinstalled everything and purged 2.6 :/ [16:23] still broken [16:23] nice [16:28] /usr/lib//python2.7/dist-packages/wx.pth does not get reinstalled for some reason [16:31] hurray reinstalling python-wxversion fixed it [19:48] the wxwidgets2.6 removal affects beauties like this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/encadre-image [19:48] same upstream version since feisty [19:48] neat [19:49] * tumbleweed looks to see if it works with 2.7 [19:49] err 8 [19:50] I actually wanted a newer version of wxformbuilder recently, another one of those ubuntu only never updated one [19:50] I looked into it and it embeds a library not available ubuntu (ticpp) [19:51] I don't really fell like properly maintaining both full scale in debian to satisfy my short term need for it [19:52] that's one of the reasons I created http://ubuntu-dev.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/neglected-packages.cgi We should encaurage people to look at it... (and host it on ubuntuwire, so it's faster) [19:52] but others might profit from an updated version not up to debian standards but equal to what is already there [19:52] can I upload it including the embedded library to ubuntu? [19:53] * tumbleweed supposes you could. but IANAAA [19:54] you shouldn't have looked [19:54] now it is on your conscience :P [19:54] :) [19:58] seriously though, it is important to think about whether dumping something you intend at the outset not to care for is a good idea [20:00] yes but we already have something outdated in the archive, the alternative is to remove it or leave it rotting [20:00] in this case the package is still usable though so rotting may be ok [20:00] reintroduction in Debian, by someone who cares about it, is preferable to rotting [20:00] assuming the rot is already well set-in [20:01] it was never in debian [20:01] no reason it couldn't be, in its next life :) [20:03] not by me, and its not exactly an easy target for a newcomer [20:03] you need to know a bunch of unusual stuff for proper maintenance [20:04] e.g. lua, premake [20:04] though updating the ubuntu package as is is a breeze, just get-orig-source and build :) [20:05] easier than trying to install from upstreams mess of a distribution [20:05] I do worry that the rotting packages cause an unecessary drain on MOTU [20:05] but yeah, the bar for an existing ubuntu-only package is pretty low [20:17] tumbleweed: maby add popularity next to the list of neglected packages [20:17] guess there are ton of packages nobody uses. [20:18] yeah, that's a useful column [20:18] that page doesn't load for me :( [20:19] give it a few years [20:19] jtaylor: just wait a bit ... :) [20:19] let's see if I can get it working on syklone before it loads for you... [20:20] been waiting 20 minutes already [20:20] though I had a disconnect in between [20:20] why on earth did I make this a CGI? [20:21] now it loaded [20:21] quite a log :O [20:21] lot [20:22] Laney: btw, finally got around to doing the report that was the cause for my ubuntu_upload_history involvement: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/debian-ubuntu-developers/ [20:23] heh [20:23] I seem to remember taking a workitem for that last UDS [20:23] what for? [20:24] can't remember. Presumabyl debian healthcheck [20:25] tumbleweed: anything you need changed on ubuntuwire to get some of that stuff on there? :) [20:25] ajmitch: laney pointed out last night that debian's UDD hasn't been importing *sources tables. Time for us to do more than just load dumps? :) [20:25] (I'm not particularly serious there, but it probably does affect some reports) [20:26] apparently it is getting a new machine [20:26] yeah, I think we kicked off the replace-ancient-machines movement [20:26] tumbleweed: what'd be required on our side for that? [20:27] Laney: do we know the timeframe for the new UDD machine? [20:27] * tumbleweed looks for bits from zack [20:27] no [20:27] ask zobel in #-qa [20:28] i think it is pretty imminent though [20:28] * tumbleweed does that [20:30] tumbleweed: is a UDS session needed about any of this, or maybe rolled into another session? [20:30] or JFDI [20:30] ajmitch: seriously. It's only a short-time issue (we hope) so I think we just sit it out [20:31] ok [20:32] dupondje: don't you feel like merging xaralx? [20:32] test-built the version in sid, FTBFS [20:39] hoh [20:39] I tought I checked that for oneiric [20:40] we do have a new gcc... [20:42] hmz, current debian version is ftbfs ? [20:42] due to ? [20:43] dupondje: http://people.ubuntu.com/~stefanor/tmp/xaralx_0.7r1785-5_amd64.build [20:48] * dupondje should start working for Canonical :) [20:49] if you're referring to that URL, all Ubuntu members get that [20:49] ah no :) [20:50] i'm still not ubuntu member btw :P [20:53] tumbleweed: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52725 seems related [20:53] gcc.gnu.org bug 52725 in c++ "error: capture of non-variable (in regards to a variable)" [Normal,Unconfirmed: ] [20:56] we could just remove the package. Debian removed it from testing years ago :) [20:59] let me check, shouldn't be to hard to fix :) [20:59] bleh, pbuilder-dist doesn't know quantal [20:59] ;) [21:00] it should [21:00] what release are you on? [21:01] Precise [21:01] you will need to create a quantal rootfs, of course [21:03] do you ahve debootstrap from backports? [21:04] nopes :) [21:06] ok, i'm running :) [21:06] thx === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:34] tumbleweed: fixed that one, getting this now [21:34] imjpeg.cpp:773:37: error: 'JPEG_LIB_VERSION' was not declared in this scope [21:35] sounds liek a missing include [21:35] or something related to the jpeg library switch we did === jbicha_ is now known as jbicha === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [22:54] dupondje: added popcon: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/ubuntu-neglected-packages/ [22:54] (statically generated. can't cron it until we have quantal in ubuntu_sources) === temugen_ is now known as temugen === julezz is now known as julez === yofel_ is now known as Guest77193 === temugen is now known as Guest44570 === elky is now known as Guest86067 === SpamapS_ is now known as SpamapS === jbicha is now known as Guest96816 === Guest86067 is now known as elky === elky is now known as Guest84344 === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal === Guest84344 is now known as elky === mchro- is now known as mchro === Bachstel1e is now known as Bachstelze === StevenK_ is now known as StevenK === julezz is now known as julez === darkcipher is now known as pi-rho === mchro- is now known as mchro === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson