[00:01] <Aison> _KaszpiR_, so you never upgrade your productive servers?
[00:03] <Jaz> ok i changed defualt directory of apache2 to anouther directory and now i get Forbidden
[00:03] <Jaz>  
[00:03] <Jaz> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[00:03] <Jaz> how do you fix this?
[00:06] <Jaz> [Mon Apr 30 13:56:47 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied error log
[00:14] <_KaszpiR_> I guess he doesnt know whats testing and production servers :(
[00:39] <tohuw> in byobu/screen, how can I close the current window? (assuming exit is not an option)
[01:14] <kirkland> tohuw: ctrl-f6
[01:19] <tohuw> kirkland: Thank you. I also was informed of Ctrl+A k
[01:19] <kirkland> tohuw: that too
[01:39] <smoser> kirkland, fwiw, if you have more than one flavor of kernel installed, or for some other reason modificaation dates of /boot/vmlinuz-* are not what you're expecting, then your simplistic sorting in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bikeshed/bikeshed/trunk/view/head:/purge-old-kernels is woefully broken and dangerous.
[01:40] <smoser> and i dont think that it takes care of kernels.
[01:40] <smoser> er.. care of headers
[01:40] <kirkland> smoser: propose a merge?
[01:40] <kirkland> smoser: it does not
[01:40] <kirkland> smoser: the subsequent autoremove does, however
[01:41] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/958920/ is probably a better start, really.
[01:41] <smoser> but the isnewer should probably just let dpkg sort it out.
[02:57] <KBentley57> hey guys, is there something special I need to do to upgrade 11.10 to 12.04?
[02:59] <ChmEarl> KBentley57, I did it today... first, upgrade oneiric;then change suite name in source.list;apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:59] <Tecan> hmmm
[02:59] <ChmEarl> my server ran xen 4.1.1 too
[03:00] <Tecan> how do i make a cloud ?
[03:00] <flaccid> Tecan: go buy some hardware then install ubuntu
[03:00] <flaccid> the docs is always the place to start
[03:01] <ChmEarl> KBentley57, apt-get update needed before last step
[03:01] <Tecan> would cloud computing work good for a render farm or a game server ?
[03:02] <KBentley57> ChmEarl, is it really as easy as changing all instances of oneiric to precise in the sources.list?
[03:02] <Tecan> if people were connecting to my cloud would it let them use the one with least latency
[03:02] <ChmEarl> yes - worked here
[03:03] <KBentley57> ChmEarl, notice anything odd?  any bugs yet?
[03:03] <ChmEarl> I got inotify add watch errors in udev (init script), not fatal
[03:03] <flaccid> Tecan: that really depends on what that is and its requirements. a cloud isn't generally a grid though. you may like to consider grid/distributed computer/batch processing for that
[03:03] <cwillu_at_work> KBentley57, do-release-upgrade is how you're supposed to do it
[03:04] <KBentley57> cwillu_at_work, should I just wait till 12.04.1 then?
[03:04] <cwillu_at_work> ?
[03:04] <flaccid> Tecan: your cloud would be 1 cloud wherver you are geographically. there are many public clouds with regions across the world
[03:04] <cwillu_at_work> KBentley57, if you want to... it's not relevant to your original question though
[03:05] <KBentley57> cwillu_at_work, when I run do-release-upgrade, it doesn't find any new release to upgrade to
[03:05] <KBentley57> that seems to be the problem I'm having
[03:05] <KBentley57> locutus@Borg:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade
[03:05] <KBentley57> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[03:05] <KBentley57> No new release found
[03:06] <KBentley57> disregard my naming schemes ~
[03:06] <craft800> Is there a mono 2.10 in the repositorys yet? Is there a way to get it without complileing from source?
[03:07] <twb> craft800: rmadison says 2.10 is in quantal
[03:07] <cwillu_at_work> KBentley57, -d option; not sure why it's marked as development only, unless there's an update you haven't installed for it
[03:07] <twb> craft800: and oneiric and precise
[03:07] <craft800> Im on an older realease, will it still work?
[03:07] <twb> craft800: once Ubuntu is released, that release does not receive new versions
[03:08] <twb> craft800: you should consider upgrading to 12.04 LTS
[03:08] <craft800> I cant yet, my VPS provider dosnt have an option for it.
[03:09] <flaccid> vps is so 90s :p
[03:09] <craft800> Dosnt mono 2.10 from 1.0 library support?
[03:10] <twb> craft800: if you are renting time on a server, you should discuss this with your provider
[03:10] <craft800> Is there a way to get from 10.10 to 12.04? My provider dosnt have an option for it? :/
[03:11] <twb> !upgrade
[03:11] <craft800> twb, paying for it monthly
[03:11] <craft800> They are still providing 10.10!
[03:11] <craft800> Its not even an LTS
[03:11] <flaccid> public cloud ftw
[03:11] <KBentley57> I've checked the release notes, and followed the 3 lines of instructions.
[03:12] <twb> craft800: the stupidity of VPS providers is not my problem
[03:12] <KBentley57> Here's when I try -p and -d on the do-release-upgrade
[03:12] <KBentley57> http://pastebin.com/UdE4DHzu
[03:13] <craft800> KBentley75, are you on 12.04?
[03:13] <twb> KBentley57: please report what uname -a says, and check what release lsb_release -a report
[03:14] <KBentley57> Linux Borg 3.0.0-17-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP
[03:14] <KBentley57> No LSB modules are available.
[03:15] <KBentley57> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[03:15] <KBentley57> Description:	Ubuntu 11.10
[03:15] <KBentley57> Release:	11.10
[03:15] <KBentley57> Codename:	oneiric
[03:16] <twb> KBentley57: I do not know what that would fail.  It should be possible to upgrade to 12.04 using d-r-u as you tried
[03:16] <twb> KBentley57: perhaps d-r-u's access to the internet is blocked or something, so its attempts to check for a newer release fail?
[03:16] <KBentley57> I dunno, it seems to get the updates just fine, and I'm running in terminal over ssh, it can ping every site i try too
[03:17] <KBentley57> Now that I think of it though, I installed this server using the miniISO, using only the basic ubuntu server option.  Relevant?
[03:21] <twb> KBentley57: NFI.  Personally I hate d-r-u and don't use it, because I always have problems with it and end up having to do it by hand anyway.
[03:22] <KBentley57> twb, should I go forth editing the sources.list in your opinion?  Are there any drawbacks to this method?
[03:22] <twb> But holding someone's hand through a manual upgrade is a huge pain, especially BECAUSE all the edge cases that can happen during upgrades, which in Debian would simply be documented in the upgrade notes, are instead handled in a tarball of d-r-u scripts.  So instead of reading docs you have to read those scripts to understand what they're trying to work around
[03:23] <twb> in THEORY you basically just updates sources.list and do an aptitude full-upgrade, but in practice there are often gotchas, and that is not something I can talk you through over IRC
[03:23] <twb> Also I get yelled at here because d-r-u is the official Ubuntu way and I'm not supposed to bad-mouth it
[03:23] <twb> I guess if you hang around someone else might help
[03:24] <KBentley57> Well, I thought about filing a bug report, as I know d-r-u is the preferred option, but I wanted to check here and see if I was being dense first
[03:25] <twb> KBentley57: what you're doing looks correct to me, FWIW
[03:26] <KBentley57> Think I'll just open a bug, see what happens.  I would hate to ruin my uptime PR anyways
[03:27] <twb> uptime is less important than recovery time and MTBF
[03:27] <twb> s/recovery time/MTTR/ apparently
[03:27] <KBentley57> I've got plenty of backups, that's not an issue.
[03:28] <KBentley57> It's only a personal file server anyways,
[03:30] <KBentley57> what should I put in this bug report?  It's not like it's a problem with a particular program.  I've filed those, but I'm kinda at a loss on this one?  tag it as 11.10 or 12.04?
[03:31] <twb> The bug is in 11.10 d-r-u until investigation shows otherwise
[03:31] <KBentley57> ok, thanks
[03:39] <KBentley57> wow, I just purged update-manager-core, reinstalled, and updated, and it seen the upgrade just fine
[03:40] <twb> Shrug
[03:40] <KBentley57> i love odd errors like that
[03:40] <KBentley57> anyhow, It's warning me about upgrading over ssh.  Is there another preferred method?
[03:41] <twb> Being physically in front of the machine
[03:41] <twb> So if it goes tits-up and ssh dies, you can fix it
[03:41] <KBentley57> yeah, probably right.  It is setting in front of me an all.  Time to dig out the monitor..
[03:42] <KBentley57> Thanks for the help twb.  It's helpful to converse about a problem, even if nothing comes out of it
[03:47] <twb> KBentley57: don't bother with a monitor until after it breaks IMO
[03:47] <twb> KBentley57: since it probably won't break that badly
[03:47] <KBentley57> I hadn't yet.  I'm just letting it go over ssh.  If it dies, I'll get it out then
[03:49] <twb> Righto
[03:59] <blendedbychris> Uhm
[04:00] <blendedbychris> should i have to specify -d to do a release upgrade for lucid?
[04:01] <KBentley57> does it work?
[04:03] <twb> blendedbychris: no
[04:03] <twb> -d is only needed if you want to upgrade to an unreleased version, e.g. right now if you wanted to get quentzal
[04:04] <blendedbychris> i feel like i'm having some major dejavu right now
[04:04] <blendedbychris> -d gives me precise
[04:05] <twb> Maybe I remember the options wrong?
[04:05] <twb> I don't have d-r-u installed :-/
[04:05] <KBentley57> -d stands for development release yes?
[04:05] <blendedbychris> yes
[04:06] <KBentley57> U just went through a phase where I purged my update-manager-core and reinstalled to fis a d-r-u problem
[04:06] <KBentley57> I*
[04:07] <blendedbychris> it's ?
[04:07] <KBentley57> wow, too much wine.
[04:07] <blendedbychris> well i guess no harm in just letting this thing go
[04:07] <KBentley57> I just went through a phase where I purged my update-manager-core and reinstalled to fix a do-release-upgrade problem
[04:07] <KBentley57> is what that was supposed to say
[04:09] <blendedbychris> i had this issue on the day of with another server but i just proceeded with -d as well
[04:09] <twb> Wine, eh?  Clearly #u-s has gone upmarket
[04:09] <KBentley57> it's homemade, probably the equivalent of the $3.00 goodness at walmart :)
[04:09] <blendedbychris> twb: sure it's from a box
[04:09] <blendedbychris> :)
[04:09] <twb> If you take it out of the box it becomes Space Wine
[04:10] <KBentley57> I call it ingested as it comes out of the box
[04:10] <craft800> How do i add a GPG file from terminal?
[04:10] <twb> craft800: add to what?
[04:10] <blendedbychris> KBentley57: do you see any issues with running with -d
[04:10] <craft800> add a GPG key file for a repository?
[04:11] <craft800> from terminal
[04:11] <KBentley57> blendedbychris, you're trying to update to 12.04 from lucid right?
[04:11] <blendedbychris> ya
[04:11] <twb> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys foo ; gpg --export foo | sudo apt-key add -
[04:12] <craft800> where do i specify the keyfile in that?
[04:12] <KBentley57> blendedbychris, when you run "sudo do-release-upgrade" what do you get?
[04:12] <twb> sudo apt-key add foo.asc ?
[04:12] <blendedbychris> no release upgrade avaibe
[04:12] <KBentley57> that is the same problem I was just having a few minutes ago
[04:12] <blendedbychris> it's really whether i need to reload lucid
[04:12] <KBentley57> is it a very important server?
[04:12] <blendedbychris> sort of heh
[04:12] <blendedbychris> it's a production web server
[04:13] <blendedbychris> but it's one of many
[04:13] <KBentley57> to fix mine, I removed the update manager core (not dangerous) with "sudo purge update-manager-core"
[04:13] <blendedbychris> well i just let it run with -d
[04:13] <KBentley57> and then reinstalled with "sudo apt-get install update-manager-core".  After that it was as simple as a sudo apt-get update, and then sudo do-release-upgrdade
[04:14] <blendedbychris> a crap i'm going to reload it mainly because i forgot to change my interface files
[04:14] <KBentley57> reinstall?
[04:15] <blendedbychris> reinstall lucid
[04:15] <blendedbychris> it's a vm
[04:15] <KBentley57> Ah, I see
[04:15] <twb> interfaces(5) can be fixed from a live CD or similar
[04:16] <KBentley57> during the upgrade, it also asks you if you want to keep or overwrite your interfaces file
[04:16] <twb> I wonder why
[04:16] <KBentley57> Well, maybe I'm extrapolating, but it does that on the desktop upgrade
[04:16] <twb> That reminds me, last time I tried d-r-u it trashed my interfaces because it was too stupid to understand that auto is shorthand for allow-auto
[04:17] <twb> IIRC I had something like "allow-auto lo upstream dmz lan" and it added a second "auto lo" which broke things
[04:18] <craft800> im trying to get mono from bagerports and it says it has no install canidate?
[04:20] <blendedbychris> dru didn't trash it but the location of  ethtool binary changes
[04:20] <KBentley57> changing binary locations seems like kind of a big deal
[04:20] <twb> Anybody know what kind of LOM is on the IBM x3650 ?
[04:21] <blendedbychris> KBentley57: i'm guessing this vm image shouldn't have "hardcoded" the location to the binar
[04:21] <blendedbychris> y
[04:23] <twb> I don't know why interfaces(5) would contain any references to ethtool
[04:24] <twb> Any references provided by a package would normally go in /etc/network/pre/post-up/down.d/foo scripts
[04:24] <craft800> nvr mind the correct name was mono-runtime
[04:42] <virusuy> gents
[04:44] <blendedbychris> lady
[05:12] <AnonVer> alguien habla español?
[05:12] <virusuy> AnonVer: si
[05:12] <AnonVer> :D yay
[05:12] <virusuy> si bien el canal es en ingles, creo que hay un par que hablamos en español
[05:13] <virusuy> creo que no hay problemas por eso.
[05:15] <Inf3ct3dQ> como se da de alta el vhost en este puto servidor?
[05:15] <AnonVer> cómo me puedo poner el vhost?
[05:17] <virusuy> AnonVer: apache?
[05:17] <AnonVer> bueno mejor a lo que venimos
[05:17] <AnonVer> lo que pasa es que tenemos un servidor con ubuntu server pero se nos quemó la tarjeta de red
[05:18] <AnonVer> y se la tuvimos que cambiar
[05:18] <AnonVer> el epx es que la nueva ya no la reconoce
[05:18] <AnonVer> nos podrían ayudar si son tan ambles?
[05:19] <AnonVer> por query si quieren
[05:19] <flaccid> english only
[05:22] <twb> !es
[05:31] <blendedbychris1> KBentley57: i tried your method
[05:31] <blendedbychris1> purging the update-manager-core
[05:31] <blendedbychris1> no avail
[05:31] <blendedbychris1> No new release found
[05:32] <blendedbychris1> and a google gets you http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-a-from-10-04-lts-to-12-04-lts
[05:33] <blendedbychris1> luckily i had to reimage with 64bit anyway
[05:33] <blendedbychris1> :)
[05:33] <chronos> hello.
[05:34] <chronos> someone have issues here when upgrading to 12.04.. I getting errors related to python
[05:34] <chronos> and when try to execute python I get "Illegal Instruction"
[05:35] <chronos> there is the complete error when do apt-get upgrade: https://gist.github.com/2565370
[05:47] <blendedbychris> l
[05:53] <blendedbychris> is there a tool to compare two packages?
[05:54] <blendedbychris> trying to figure out what the heck the diff is between gfs2-cluster an gfs2-utils...
[05:54] <blendedbychris> same number of packages….. looks like the same packages from a glance…. but the archive sizes are different
[05:56] <blendedbychris> these dudes install both https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClusterStack/Precise
[07:43] <pukeko_> howdy all.. i need to stop the samba service when a VM starts up - i have edited the /etc/init/smbd.conf and nmbd.conf commenting out the lines with "start on local-filesystems" but it still starts .... any pointers ?
[07:48] <pukeko_> ..ahh /etc/init/smbd.conf.disabled
[07:52] <twb> pukeko_: dpkg-divert it
[07:53] <twb> Otherwise and upgrade may put it back
[07:53] <twb> If you don't want it to start automatically, but DO need to be able to stop/start it manually later, then as you say you need to edit the config file
[07:54] <twb> Which is a huge stupid bullshit failure compared to sysvinit where update-rc.d can do that without having to parse a DSL config file
[07:54] <twb> ...not that I'm bitter or anything... :-/
[09:02] <lynxman> morning o/
[09:41] <Tzunamii> Top of the morning!
[11:37]  * hellsend is away: Do I seem like I'm there ? No ! 
[12:05] <vipin> can any one tell me the process how to configure oracle instant client with php on linux machine
[12:31] <miceiken> Does do-release-upgrade require a reboot?
[12:37] <smoser> miceiken, most likely afterwards you have a newer kernel installed and you should reboot into it.
[12:41] <greppy> miceiken: check the docs on the website, I know that for debian 5.0 to debian 6.0 for example, you wanted to do the kernel and udev upgrades first, reboot, then do the rest of it.
[12:42] <qman__> all the release upgrades I've done required rebooting
[12:43] <qman__> some of the software can depend on a recent enough kernel to work
[12:43] <qman__> and your system will be in a pretty crazy state until you do
[13:00] <KBentley57> hey guys, I just upgraded to precise, and it would appear that vsftpd is broken.  Has anyone experienced this?
[14:00] <Daviey> halvors1: hey
[14:00] <Daviey> err, hallyn
[14:24] <hallyn> Daviey: I was goni gto ask you to nix a blueprint, but stgraber has taken care of it, thanks
[14:26] <tash1> how do you add someone to sudoers in ubuntu 12.04? I've tried usermod -G <group> <user> in the past
[14:26] <tash1> then could sudo -s as that user
[14:27] <jpds> tash1: sudo adduser <user> sudo
[14:27] <tash1> jpds: what if they are already added?
[14:27] <tash1> i mean, what if the user already exists
[14:28] <jpds> tash1: Same thing.
[14:28] <halvors1> Daviey: Hi!
[14:28] <jpds> tash1: Don't confuse adduser and useradd.
[14:28] <tash1> jpds: k, I was confusing the two
[14:30] <tash> jpds: why wouldn't usermod work?
[14:30] <tash> I got disconnected, so not sure if I missed you saying anything else.
[14:31] <jpds> tash: Probably would; the user just needs to be in the 'sudo' group.
[14:31] <tash> ah
[14:31] <tash> is that new in 12.04?
[14:31] <tash> I swear admin used to be the group
[14:31] <qman__> it did
[14:31] <qman__> check visudo to find out for sure
[14:32] <tash> thanks guys
[14:49] <cjs226> due to a sw dependency I'm wanting to install openjdk-6-jre 6b18-1.8.8~pre1-0ubuntu1 from the command line, but can't figure out how.  I've tried <apt-get install openjdk-6-jre=6b18-1.8.8~pre1-0ubuntu1> but get "E: Version '6b18-1.8.8~pre1-0ubuntu1' for 'openjdk-6-jre' was not found"
[14:51] <SpamapS> cjs226: that just means that particular version isn't listed in your package lists
[14:51] <SpamapS> cjs226: also you should know, that version will not be pinned.. so the next 'apt-get upgrade' will get any newer available versions
[14:54] <qman__> cjs226, best bet is to find the deb from packages.ubuntu.org, manually download it, remove your current version, dpkg -i the one you want, then pin the package
[14:55] <cjs226> spamaps: qman__: thx, i'll try that
[14:55] <SpamapS> you can just use package holds in this case
[14:56] <SpamapS> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Introduction_to_Holding_Packages
[14:56] <SpamapS> cjs226: ^^
[14:56] <cjs226> spamaps: thx!
[15:08] <xnox> SpamapS: hello. I'm testing updated/merged lvm2 bug #936965. slangasek came up with a couple of test to perform (to make sure that updated lvm2 is still sane and at least ok to upload into quantal & not break the world too much)
[15:08] <xnox> SpamapS: steve asked if there is anything special you can think off to test updated lvm2 package.
[15:09] <xnox> SpamapS: I'm currently doing smoke test: builds, installs, creates LVM groups/volumes/etc, can create snapshots, boots, boots with rootfs on lvm, boots with rootfs outside lvm, multiple VGs.
[15:10] <xnox> SpamapS: Good morning! ;-)
[15:26] <SpamapS> xnox: good morning. :)
[15:26] <SpamapS> xnox: and welcome!
[15:26] <xnox> =) thanks!
[15:26] <SpamapS> xnox: that sounds like pretty good coverage
[15:26]  * xnox it's like 4:30pm here in the UK =) but that's ok.
[15:26] <SpamapS> xnox: LVM on top of mdadm would also be good to test
[15:27] <xnox> ok.
[15:27] <SpamapS> as its a fairly common scenario
[15:29] <xnox> SpamapS: yes, raid would be nice.
[15:30] <xnox> SpamapS: do we already have jenkins test for that? (I see raid & lvm separatly, not sure I see lvm on top of raid)
[15:31] <xnox> cause for example we are not testing encrypted lvm cause jenkins/auto testing will give that to us, after we upload to archive & jenkins starts runnings against daily quantal builds.
[15:31] <SpamapS> xnox: the jenkins tests for those are pretty weak
[15:31] <SpamapS> xnox: they basically just make sure the install succeeds
[15:31] <xnox> boot?
[15:31] <SpamapS> xnox: but they don't test raid resiliency or recovery
[15:31] <SpamapS> xnox: they do boot once
[15:31]  * xnox currently doesn't hardware with multiple drives to do proper raid tests
[15:32]  * xnox is currently testing in KVM & my laptop
[15:34] <SpamapS> xnox: you're not alone in that :)
[15:34]  * xnox the IO speed is painfully slow cause my host is running ontop of encrypted lvm, then virtualised IO on top is bad =)
[15:37] <xnox> SpamapS: even though jenkins tests are 'basic' I think we still should add lvm-on-raid test case.
[15:37] <SpamapS> xnox: I believe the jenkins testing framework is being reworked this cycle
[15:37] <SpamapS> xnox: I did some things to add reboot support last cycle, but by the time I was done w/ my work, it was clear the framework was being deprecated
[15:40] <xnox> SpamapS: is this the new thing: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-automation-test-harness ?
[15:41] <xnox> and related uds-q specs/meetings?
[15:41] <SpamapS> xnox: yes thats the new thing
[15:41] <xnox> I just hope that jenkins will still run / in-parallel until the new thing has stabilised.
[15:41] <xnox> or is it already finished?
[16:16] <chronos> hello. I getting errors related to python and when try to execute python I get "Illegal Instruction"?  there is the complete error when do apt-get upgrade: https://gist.github.com/2565370 ... the error appeared while doing do-release-upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 yesterday.  The python with verbose execution returns it: https://gist.github.com/2569295 ... I already tried many things, even compile python, and it not works. Some lib looks like is
[16:16] <chronos> broken.
[16:16] <chronos> it's a BUG on UPGRADE to 12.04
[16:32] <ona_matt> I'm having an apt issue.  I have set up a 12.04 mirror of just the 64bit architecture.  when I do an apt-get update against that mirror it errors out trying to find i386 packages.  why is it even trying that when my architecture is amd64?
[16:33] <qman__> ona_matt, some i386 packages are used on the amd64 architecture
[16:34] <qman__> only the base system is necessarily amd64 specific
[16:34] <ona_matt> qman__:  thats what I was afraid of.. so you are saying I have to mirror the i386 junk for just a few packages then? :(
[16:34] <qman__> lost of packages don't have amd64-compiled versions
[16:34] <qman__> it's more than just a few
[16:34] <ona_matt> so even though I may not install those packages, I still have to have access to them all so apt-get update will run completely?
[16:36] <ona_matt> qman__:  well thanks for the info.. thats what I thought may be going on but just wanted to confirm before I downloaded it all. :)
[16:37] <qman__> ona_matt, there may be a way around it, but really, you're going to have a mirror that's nowhere near complete without them
[16:37] <qman__> not even an installable system
[16:37] <qman__> there may also be a way to limit which i386 packages you get
[16:37] <qman__> but I'd suggest at least getting main in i386
[16:38] <ona_matt> well the goal was to install 64 bit servers so the assumption was that most of the packages were 64 bit.. but if that is not the case then yea we'll have to get it all.  I guess I didnt realize how much was still 32bit
[16:39] <qman__> for example, you might be able to create the i386 repository with no packages in it, or one package in it
[16:39] <qman__> but yeah
[16:40] <qman__> there's a lot of stuff you'll need in there
[16:40] <ona_matt> sure.. well probably more work than I need to spend on it.. I have plenty of disk to mirror it with.. was just trying to be clean and efficient about it.
[16:42] <antihero> arrggghhhh I'm trying to update the kernel on a bhost so that I can install precise, and grub won't regenerate the boot list because it can't probe /dev/simfs
[16:42] <antihero> how I do this
[16:43] <smoser> utlemming, what evidence/explanation do you have to imply that bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-on-ec2/+bug/987182 is http pipelining issue.
[16:44] <smoser> the failure the user sees is a single package 'apt-get install'
[16:45] <ona_matt> qman__:  so I just did a "dpkg-query -W -f='${Architecture}\n'" on my 12.04 server install here.. there are no i386 packages installed according to that?
[16:45] <qman__> ona_matt, might be miltiarch or i686
[16:46] <qman__> or 'all'
[16:46] <ona_matt> qman__:  there are only two reported.. all or amd64..
[16:46] <qman__> I thought the 'all' would have been in the i386, but maybe not
[16:46] <qman__> in that case I'd try to create an empty i386
[16:46] <qman__> to make apt happy
[16:47] <ona_matt> I find it strange that the apt-get update even asks for i386 because I thought it was supposed to replace the $ARCHITECTURE value when it did its lookup.
[16:47] <ona_matt> is there an easy way to do that in my apt-mirror?
[16:50] <ona_matt> Here is another thought.  I have my own repository managed by reprepro.. It specifically defines the repo as being amd64 and src for architectures.  It fails too because my apt-get update is ASKING for i386 stuff even though there is nothing there it needs.
[16:51] <qman__> that doesn't seem right
[16:51] <ona_matt> Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[16:51] <ona_matt> thats the error I get on that one.
[16:52] <ona_matt> deb http://archive/myrepo/ precise main
[16:52] <ona_matt> thats the sources.list entry
[16:52] <antihero> its' on a bhost, I don't know if I actually can update my kernel, it's at version 2.6 :(
[16:53] <ona_matt> so for some reason the stupid box is asking for i386 stuff even though 'dpkg —print-architecture' reports amd64
[16:58] <antihero> god I hate openvs
[16:58] <antihero> vz
[16:59] <resno> antihero: whys that?
[17:00] <resno> aside from kernel stuff
[17:02] <ona_matt> qman__:  I think I fixed it.. I added "APT::Architectures { "amd64"; };" to my apt.conf.  it runs clean now
[17:03] <ona_matt> apparently the default is to try both architectures
[17:05] <smoser> utlemming, ^^
[17:07] <utlemming> smoser: oh...I posted to the wrong bug
[17:07]  * utlemming digs further on it
[17:07] <mgz> adam_g: so, I've put some fixes I needed at lp:~gz/+junk/juju-deployer
[17:08] <adam_g> mgz: sweeeet
[17:09] <mgz> are the rest of the charms also going to go through the ~charmers/charms/precise/.. -> charms/.. rename?
[17:10] <mgz> and alas the deploy to canonistack has resulted in a lot of machines in error state, but that was somewhat expected
[17:10] <adam_g> mgz: im not sure, i just found out there was some problems upgrading them like that. im not really involved with that, i just reference the entire branch path
[17:11] <mgz> right, which (generally) hasn't actually moved, though rabbit caught me out again
[17:12] <adam_g> mgz: ill update the deployment cfg to point to current branches when i merge those changes of yours
[17:13] <mgz> I've got a few more pending, a way of passing the environment name (I had multiple, which breaks just calling `juju status`),
[17:13] <mgz> and you wouldn't mind if I cleaned up the logging/output a bit?
[17:14] <adam_g> mgz: oh yeah, ive wanted to add that but have just been using sed on environments.yaml when switching in a script
[17:14] <adam_g> mgz: no dude, go for it. i hacked that out of necessity and have only touched it when i needed to (it was broken)  kapil has come up with something similar last cycle to do charm testing, we might end up using his in the future if it suits our needs in the CI lab
[17:15] <mgz> hm, unfortunately juju maps these error states to 'pending' so deployer doesn't know to give up
[17:16] <adam_g> mgz: for provider errors? yah? though the output of juju status has changed at some point to provide better error reporting on relation errors
[17:17] <mgz> as in the actual servers are in error state, canonistack likes breaking (and amazon doesn't actually have an error state...)
[17:17] <adam_g> oh, right
[17:18] <mgz> I'll see what can be done about that in their code.
[17:21] <mgz> ...and a bug in txaws on terminate too
[17:22] <mgz> seems to be fixed in trunk, yeay
[17:31] <utlemming> smoser: S3 bug....if you access it via different URL's, it works
[17:32] <utlemming> smoser: (works) https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/us-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ntp/ntp_4.2.4p8+dfsg-1ubuntu2.1_amd64.deb
[17:32] <smoser> utlemming, but it clearly did not work.
[17:32] <utlemming> smoser: (doesn't work) http://us-west-2.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com.s3.amazonaws.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ntp/ntp_4.2.4p8+dfsg-1ubuntu2.1_amd64.deb
[17:34] <smoser> utlemming, i'm not usre i understand what you're saying
[17:35] <utlemming> if you use "s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/us-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com" over "us-west-2.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com.s3.amazonaws.com" then it work.
[17:36] <smoser> utlemming, i'm stil confused.
[17:36] <smoser> you said "doesn't work" to http://us-west-2.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com.s3.amazonaws.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ntp/ntp_4.2.4p8+dfsg-1ubuntu2.1_amd64.deb
[17:36] <smoser> which i though twas the correct way
[17:36] <utlemming> right...
[17:37] <utlemming> the problem is that S3 is messing up the permissions when accessing via the correct way
[18:05] <chronos> Someone can take a look on this BUG: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.7/+bug/992760, I guess is important
[18:12] <erichammond> smoser, utlemming: Don't you have to specify the correct S3 region? E.g., http://us-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com.s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ntp/ntp_4.2.4p8+dfsg-1ubuntu2.1_amd64.deb
[18:13] <erichammond> Also, if you want to use "https" then you pretty much have to use the "/bucketname" style of URL, or else you'll get SSL certificate errors because the hostname does not match the certfiicate.
[18:49] <ruben23> guys how to run a perl script on ubuntu server..?
[18:50] <SpamapS> ruben23: perl script.pl
[18:50] <SpamapS> ruben23: perl is part of the "essential" set of packages, so its always available, though it is a minimal perl, so you might not have all the libs you need
[18:50] <ruben23> oh ok..thanks..
[18:51] <ruben23> SpamapS: i seen a per script which runs and email the specified email being put..is this out of the box in ubuntu server if i run this..?
[18:52] <SpamapS> ruben23: its impossible to answer that without reading the script
[18:52] <ZenMaster> Hi, I have a question. Anyone know why my Ubuntu-Server is dropping ftp connections?
[18:52] <ZenMaster> UFW is off, I have it as the DMZ, and have tried 2 daemons now.
[18:52] <SpamapS> ZenMaster: perhaps there's another firewall between you and the internet?
[18:53] <ZenMaster> Nope. :*(
[18:54] <SpamapS> ZenMaster: you probably should do some packet traces (tcpdump, wireshark, etc) and figure out what is happening to your connections.
[18:55] <ZenMaster> I see nothing under netstat -ln. Local connections same machine are working, local network actively refused wan same thing.
[18:57] <ruben23> SpamapS: this is the one----------------------->http://sites.google.com/site/kjalleda/mysqlreplicationconsistency
[19:01] <SpamapS> ruben23: use DBIx::DWIW;
[19:01] <SpamapS> ruben23: that will need to be installed, its not in the base system
[19:44] <DrPOo_44> is there a way of getting how many RAM sticks are installed on a system?
[19:45] <_ruben> look inside? :)
[19:46] <DrPOo_44> _ruben, what if I cant?
[19:47] <_ruben> i recall lmsensors being able to shed some light on that
[19:47] <ihashacks> DrP: dmidecode -t 16
[19:48] <ihashacks> -t 17 will give you detailed info about the RAM
[19:50] <DrPOo_44> ihashacks, that did the trick
[19:50] <DrPOo_44> thnx!
[20:03] <ZenMaster> So I have come to the conclusion that iptables is blocking my ftp traffic. Is there anyway to verify this?
[20:09] <ihashacks> Zen: "iptables -L -v" will show what iptables is configured to do.
[20:09] <Tzunamii> iptables -vnL|less
[20:11]  * _ruben votes for the -L option to be removed from ip(6)tables
[20:18] <moooooo> hello, bit of a generalised question about ubuntu server...but in theory is it possible to create a server with ubuntu that could perform all the domain controller functions of something like windows small business server, with windows clients connecting to it? (e.g. i know samba would do file sharing, and an http proxy wouldn't be too hard to set up. but is it possible to create an
[20:18] <moooooo> exchange-like email server that outlook could connect to and have all the calendar functions etc??)
[20:19] <benjiedmund> moooooo: maybe zimbra?
[20:19] <mdeslaur> moooooo: http://www.sogo.nu/english.html
[20:20] <moooooo> thanks very much i'll have a look at those
[20:36] <chronos> Ok guys, there is a REAL BUG happening on Upgrade to 12.04. That happened again and now I have all logs. The issue is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/992842 and probably happening to more people. I can say it is URGENT to solve.
[21:44] <tkeith> I just installed a server, but the RAID used metadata version 0.9 instead of 1.2. Why is that? All my other servers automatically used 1.2, and I set them up exactly the same.
[22:23] <rbeez> hello
[22:24] <rbeez> yesterday I hosed the debian firewall/nat/dns server I am setting up
[22:24] <rbeez> I am trying to limit the amount of software on it
[22:25] <rbeez> x11-common being one of those unneeded packages
[22:25] <rbeez> I thought I might try ubuntu-server as it is debian based
[22:26] <rbeez> not really interested in trying a non debian based system
[22:26] <rbeez> my question;
[22:27] <rbeez> will ubuntu-server drag x11-common into the base install like a debian base install?
[22:29] <Patrickdk> it doesn't
[22:29] <Patrickdk> but many program you install, could drag it in later
[23:01] <rbeez> thanks guys