[03:39]  * pjizz waves hi to all the oregonians
[04:01] <nathwill> so the documentation for varnish makes things seem waaaay more complicated than they actually are...
[04:01] <nathwill> if you just treat it like nginx, it's simple.
[04:39] <bkerensa> tgm4883: ping
[04:39] <bkerensa> tgm4883: so you want me to re give it away or what?
[04:43] <tgm4883> bkerensa, yea that is probably best
[04:45] <tgm4883> bkerensa, probably have to go though the OS Bridge guy, the link does seem linked to my email address
[04:46] <bkerensa> tgm4883: yeah I will ping reid can you forward me the link
[04:46] <tgm4883> yep
[04:48] <tgm4883> bkerensa, sent
[04:50] <bkerensa> k
[05:41] <blkperl> bkerensa: omgubuntu is giving 502's on a pag
[05:41] <blkperl> page*
[05:41] <bkerensa> blkperl: im sure they are working on it
[05:41] <bkerensa> ;p
[05:41]  * bkerensa is not on the web team :) I just write there
[05:43]  * blkperl assumed you could poke in some irc channel or something :)
[05:44] <blkperl> bkerensa: kinda tempted to challenge you to a puppet vs juju article
[05:44] <bkerensa> ;p
[05:44] <bkerensa> they are for two different purposes
[05:44] <bkerensa> :P
[05:44] <bkerensa> http://askubuntu.com/questions/52840/differentiator-between-juju-and-front-runners-puppet-and-chef
[05:44] <nathwill> so puppet is configuration management, eh? and juju is service deployment/orchestration...
[05:45] <bkerensa> Luke Kanies actually responds on AskUbuntu
[05:45] <bkerensa> :D
[05:45] <nathwill> i'm not a puppet expert, but from what i picked up at puppet conf, i don't know if puppet does provisioning...
[05:46] <nathwill> i could be waaay off...
[05:47] <blkperl> what do you mean by provisioning?
[05:47] <blkperl> well define it for me
[05:49] <nathwill> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisioning
[05:49] <nathwill> sorry, lazy
[05:49] <nathwill> i could be totally wrong, but i don't believe i can use puppet to create a virtual machine, e.g.
[05:50] <nathwill> my understanding is that puppet can configure a provisioned service with a set of defined characteristics, e.g. users/applications/acls/application configs...
[05:50] <blkperl> well im not sure if any providers currently do that, but it would be possible to have puppet create virtual machines using ganeti/openstack/vagrant etc
[05:51] <nathwill> so puppet *can* create vms?
[05:51] <bkerensa> so you have to use another tool in addition to puppet to get vms?
[05:51] <blkperl> well you have to use a virtualization tool
[05:51] <nathwill> bkerensa, so does juju, it's either using lxc for local or ec2/openstack for cloud vms...
[05:52] <nathwill> hrm, well blkperl, in that case, i'm not sure where juju provides functionality that juju does not. though, i will say i've only been playing w/ juju recently, and have 0 experience with puppet
[05:52] <blkperl> nathwill: https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-node_openstack
[05:53] <blkperl> ok so you control openstack currently
[05:53] <blkperl> can*
[05:53] <blkperl> well openstack/amazon
[05:54] <bkerensa> nathwill: you dont game by chance?
[05:54] <nathwill> bkerensa, not really, little bit of console gaming, very seldom pc gaming
[05:54] <nathwill> why?
[05:54] <nathwill> i tend to lean towards FPS stuff
[05:54] <bkerensa> blkperl: I have just been informed by the juju-wordpress team that the 502 errors on OMG should now be resolved :P
[05:55] <bkerensa> nathwill: bf3?
[05:55] <nathwill> bf?
[05:55] <bkerensa> if so I will destroy you
[05:55] <bkerensa> Battlefield 3
[05:55] <bkerensa> :D
[05:55] <nathwill> yeah, no idea
[05:55] <bkerensa> :(
[05:55] <nathwill> so i'm sure you will :D
[05:55] <bkerensa> its one of the top FPS
[05:56] <bkerensa> well it is the top in number of players atm
[05:56] <bkerensa> I hope a sequel to COD Blackops comes out soon
[05:56] <nathwill> with all this business about puppet, i'm gonna fire up some lxcs to screw around with...
[05:59] <bkerensa> LOL
[05:59] <bkerensa> Juju for the win :)
[05:59] <nathwill> lxc-create -t ubuntu -n gepetto; lxc-create -t ubuntu -n pinocchio
[05:59] <nathwill> har har har
[05:59] <nathwill> bet i'm the first person EVER to make that joke...
[06:04] <bkerensa> heh
[06:05] <bkerensa> I hope this transfer is timely... :P I have a transfer from ING to US Bank coming for my trip funds :)
[06:05] <nathwill> heh, you're dreaming
[06:05] <bkerensa> I'm still not sure if I will just bring cash or leave it on chase
[06:06] <bkerensa> nathwill: Uhh I hope not... :) because if it doesnt arrive by Friday I R gonna have issues
[06:07] <nathwill> anybody know a good recipe for salmon?
[06:07] <bkerensa> nathwill: Did you know Texas has had 46 Death Row Exonerations in under 10 years
[06:07] <bkerensa> wow
[06:07] <bkerensa> nathwill: Baked or BBQ?
[06:08] <nathwill> baked
[06:08] <nathwill> i got some fantastic looking salmon from farmers market, trying to figure out what to do w/ it
[06:08] <bkerensa> nathwill: http://soupbelly.com/2011/07/11/grilled-salmon-with-brown-sugar-and-soy-sauce/
[06:08] <bkerensa> Mmm
[06:08] <bkerensa> you can adjust for oven
[06:09] <bkerensa> time to go brew some tea
[06:09] <bkerensa> nathwill: ttyl I am going to go get wired on tea and frag out
[06:10] <nathwill> laters
[19:40] <thefinn93> bkerensa, where'd you find that ubuntu theme for android?
[20:19] <nathwill> thefinn, it's adw theme
[21:05] <thefinn93> nathwill, thx
[21:05] <nathwill> thefinn93: for sure, it's a neat theme :)
[21:05] <thefinn93> yeah def
[21:05] <thefinn93> i just got an android device
[21:05] <thefinn93> i've almost got CM7 installed
[21:05] <thefinn93> then ima get the theme
[21:05] <nathwill> :)
[21:06] <nathwill> yeah, bkerensa helped me find a good guide to rooting my evo shift, so i *finally* got off of sense/bloatware and onto cm7.2 rc4
[21:07] <thefinn93> yay
[21:07] <thefinn93> yeah i couldn't stand the bloatware $print put on this thing
[21:08] <nathwill> what, you don't like nascar? ;)
[21:08] <nathwill> or being required to have facebook installed?
[21:09] <thefinn93> lol
[21:09] <thefinn93> thats exactly the problems i had
[21:09] <thefinn93> also its a cut down facebook app
[21:09] <thefinn93> it's terrible
[21:10] <nathwill> well given that the facebook app was recently caught reading people's SMS msgs, i'd rather not have it at all
[21:10] <thefinn93> oh i agree, i have no intention of installing the real one
[21:10] <thefinn93> it just seems that if they're gonna force you to have an app, they should at least have the real one
[21:11] <thefinn93> and not block you from getting the real one
[21:11] <thefinn93> ok so if I just install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ryanolson.adw.ubuntu
[21:12] <thefinn93> it will be pretty and ubuntu?
[21:14] <nathwill> erm.. yep
[21:14] <nathwill> well
[21:14] <nathwill> you install it, then switch to that theme in adw settings
[21:14] <bkerensa> nathwill: he doesnt have an android
[21:14] <bkerensa> he has a brick
[21:14] <bkerensa> ;p
[21:14] <nathwill> i don't understand
[21:14] <thefinn93> bkerensa, i do too
[21:18] <bkerensa> thefinn93: still looks brickish :P
[21:18] <thefinn93> psh
[21:18] <thefinn93> whatevs
[21:18] <bkerensa> thefinn93: and when did u start using irc again? :D
[21:18] <thefinn93> i've been using it, just spend more time on other servers
[21:18] <thefinn93> subluminal, EFnet, etc
[21:18] <bkerensa> psh
[21:19] <bkerensa> freenode/oftc for win
[21:19] <bkerensa> :D
[21:19] <thefinn93> i idle on both
[21:20] <bkerensa> thefinn93 and nathwill: Wanna see what my new laptop will look like?
[21:20] <bkerensa> http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-series-7-gamer-busts-out-ivy-bridge-01225472/
[21:20] <bkerensa> they wont sell in stores until later this summer but I will have one when I get back from UDS :D
[21:21] <bkerensa> has the new Ivy Bridge Processors that Intel just started shipping
[21:21] <nathwill> big...
[21:21] <bkerensa> powerful...
[21:23] <tgm4883> that's what she said
[21:24] <nathwill> ho ho!
[21:24] <thefinn93> ubuntu theme installed
[21:24]  * bkerensa coughs COC
[21:24] <thefinn93> this looks nice
[21:24] <thefinn93> thx
[21:24] <bkerensa> thefinn93: now you need to bug the devs to roll out CM9 on all the models
[21:25] <bkerensa> :D
[21:37] <nathwill> man i hate our landlords... they just dropped off another batch of home-inspection notices to our apartment unit
[21:41] <bkerensa> nathwill: what is a home-inspection notice?
[21:41] <bkerensa> they think you got bugs?
[21:41] <bkerensa> :D
[21:42] <bkerensa> nathwill: maybe they are planning on selling the place?
[21:42] <nathwill> i hope so
[21:43] <nathwill> it has already been sold once
[21:43] <nathwill> home-inspection is just a routine walk-in, look-around, take off... property management does a basic check to make sure you're not damaging the property (e.g. running a meth lab)
[21:43] <nathwill> most places it's an annual thing
[21:44] <nathwill> but these fuckers come through about 3x a year
[21:48] <bkerensa> nathwill: thats excessive and I would flip out on them
[21:48] <bkerensa> nathwill: property management ran places I hear suck
[21:48] <bkerensa> :P
[21:50] <bkerensa> nathwill: my landlord is coming today if it makes you feel any better :)
[21:56] <nathwill> bkerensa, i'm just keeping my head down until we buy a house
[21:56] <bkerensa> nathwill: no doubt
[21:58] <bkerensa> nathwill: it seems like the home buying season or something... my neighbor on our property just moved out yesterday because he bought a house and now my neighbor in the duplex next to us is moving out today to do the same thing
[21:59] <nathwill> well, if you've managed to survive the last couple years of shit economy, have some money in the bank, and good job prospects, it's a great time to buy
[21:59] <nathwill> interest rates and home prices are super low...
[22:04] <bkerensa> :P if it were not for student loans and other costs atm I would totally agree :)
[22:05] <nathwill> yeah, i hear where you're coming from
[22:05] <nathwill> we've been murdering our social life to save the money
[22:12] <bkerensa> yeah I cant do that
[22:12] <bkerensa> I like the finer things
[22:12] <bkerensa> or something close to it :P
[22:12] <nathwill> lol
[22:12] <bkerensa> Does Glisan Burger Barn count as a finer thing? :P
[22:12] <bkerensa> heh
[22:14] <nathwill> totally
[22:53] <nathwill> haha, my neighbor just sent me a text "hey nathan, if you have time can you come over and show me what i'm doing wrong w/ this lubunto install?"
[23:02] <nathwill> hells yes
[23:02] <nathwill> got my varnish charm nearly complete
[23:26] <bkerensa> hello pjizzle whats up in the wazizizzle
[23:26] <bkerensa> :D
[23:26] <bkerensa> nathwill: oh yeah?
[23:28] <bkerensa> nathwill: u should join https://launchpad.net/~sumo-hackers