[08:23] <charlvn> to use or not to use dkim on a mail server... that is the qustion
[10:07] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[10:09] <superfly> morning Kilos
[10:10] <charlvn> morning kilos
[10:11] <Kilos> does anyone have scalpel installed?
[10:12] <Kilos> it says to uncomment the lines in the config file you want to search for, does that mean only the lines with command like lines ?
[10:13] <charlvn> those would be lines starting with # yes
[10:13] <charlvn> if that's what you're referring to
[10:13] <Kilos> lol they all have that
[10:13] <charlvn> ok then they're all commented out :P
[10:13] <Kilos> thats why im lost
[10:14] <charlvn> i don't know scalpel myself but that's a pretty standard configuration format for all *nix based applications
[10:14] <charlvn> exceptions would be xml-based configuration files for example but there aren't too many of those out there
[10:15] <Kilos> hmm i dunno how to explain what i mean nicely, will pastebin the conf file
[10:16] <charlvn> np
[10:17] <Kilos> large file
[10:17] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s213D9vyK9
[10:18] <Kilos> i mean must i just uncomment the last part or everything
[10:19] <charlvn> definitely not everything
[10:19] <charlvn> only the lines you need to uncomment
[10:19] <Kilos> as in i dont know which are the actualy working lines
[10:19] <charlvn> hmmm
[10:20] <charlvn> ok so say you want to let it use jpeg files for example, then you just uncomment the following line
[10:20] <charlvn> jpg     y       200000000       \xff\xd8\xff\xe0\x00\x10        \xff\xd9
[10:21] <Kilos> ty charlvn 
[10:21] <charlvn> so you just remove the # at the beginning of the line and that's it
[10:21] <Kilos> lemme try that
[10:21] <charlvn> cool good luck
[10:21] <Kilos> i want it to find everything it can
[10:21] <Kilos> as in why it wont boot etc as well
[10:21] <Kilos> gracias
[10:22] <Kilos> have a good day
[17:44] <Kilos> yo superfly and others
[17:44] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[17:45] <Kilos> Maaz, seen magespawn
[17:45] <Maaz> Kilos: magespawn was last seen 22 hours, 18 minutes and 29 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-04-30 12:26:34 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-04-30 13:22:46 PDT
[17:45] <Kilos> oh my his wireless tower musta fallen on his noggin
[17:58] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[18:06] <Kilos> bbl
[18:37] <magespawn> Good evening
[18:47] <superfly> hi magespawn
[18:50] <magespawn> So whats up?
[18:52] <superfly> at the moment? just trying to fix someone's merge issues
[18:53] <magespawn> Someone? Upgrade to 12.04?
[18:54] <superfly> magespawn: no, code
[18:55] <superfly> one of the guys in my OpenLP project was trying to merge the latest code into a very old branch of his, and was getting conflicts
[18:56] <magespawn> I see, you keep busy
[19:04] <magespawn> Back again.
[19:12] <superfly> magespawn: I'm *always* busy
[19:12] <tumbleweed> that's a good sign
[19:12] <magespawn> Some people do not understand that
[19:13] <magespawn> Hey tumbleweed
[19:13] <superfly> tumbleweed: I was a bit too busy to try to get that package done today :-(
[19:13]  * superfly goes to fire up VB
[19:14] <tumbleweed> "VB", I was about to say eek before I realised what you meant
[19:14] <magespawn> Visual basic?
[19:14] <tumbleweed> heh, ^5 magespawn
[19:15] <superfly> VirtualBox
[19:15] <magespawn> You got me very worried there
[19:15] <superfly> tumbleweed: you should know better! :-P
[19:24] <Kilos> yo magespawn 
[19:24] <magespawn> And why would you use virtualbox?
[19:25] <magespawn> Hi kilos
[19:25] <Kilos> 2 more data recovery tools are foremost and scalpel
[19:25] <Squirm> foremost wins
[19:26] <magespawn> Never used them yet
[19:26] <Kilos> lol if its not with a drive that grunts at you but doesnt show
[19:26] <superfly> magespawn: I am creating a package for Debian, so I have Debian installed in VirtualBox so that I am using the plaform I'm creating the package for.
[19:26] <Squirm> used it 4/4 times this year, to recover data with a corrupt partition tables. The one external was probably damaged
[19:27] <Squirm> s/used it/used it successfully
[19:27] <magespawn> I see, is there enough of a difference between ubuntu and debian to need to do that?
[19:27] <Kilos> ya me too when my external crashed but it was reoairable
[19:28] <tumbleweed> magespawn: no, there isn't. But it is helpful to at least have as id chroot
[19:28] <tumbleweed> a sid chroot
[19:28] <Kilos> this seagate drive just grunts as the heads move back and forth
[19:28] <tumbleweed> (we tend to use chroots for development rather than VMs, because they are quicker to work with)
[19:29] <superfly> magespawn: I personally prefer to just have everything in Debian if I'm creating a Debian package.
[19:29] <tumbleweed> I do all my Ubuntu development on Debian machines, testing builds for Ubuntu in Ubuntu chroots (with automated build tools)
[19:29] <superfly> magespawn: and I'm not as clued up as tumbleweed ;-)
[19:30] <tumbleweed> superfly: I know some people who run ubuntu dev releases on their laptops, but have a persistent sid chroot for debian work
[19:30] <tumbleweed> that's a pretty reasonable compromise
[19:30] <tumbleweed> I only use throw-away chroots
[19:31] <tumbleweed> (I will concede to using VMs when I test desktop / kernel related things)
[19:32] <magespawn> I think this conversation is a little above my knowledge at the moment
[19:33] <Kilos> lol
[19:33] <tumbleweed> yeah, these aren't things you think about too much until you are doing them all the time
[19:34] <inetpro> good evening
[19:35] <tumbleweed> a chroot is just like a VM-in-a-directory. It's not secure, but (with some tools) you can instantly have a throw-away Ubuntu-install to play in
[19:35] <tumbleweed> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot
[19:35] <tumbleweed> the chroot isn't virtual at all, same kernel, but is a separate area of the filesystem
[19:36]  * tumbleweed shuts up now
[19:36] <inetpro> tumbleweed: why?
[19:36] <magespawn> Hi inetpro
[19:36] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[19:36] <magespawn> Good to learn
[19:36] <inetpro> magespawn: eh
[19:37] <Kilos> go on tumbleweed everyone is learning
[19:37] <tumbleweed> heh, well if you want to play with this stuff, install ubuntu-dev-tools and run 'pbuilder precise create' then 'pbuilder precise login'. (Note, it'll have to download the packages to create a minimal precise install)
[19:38] <tumbleweed> err pbuilder-dist precise create then pbuilder-dist precise install
[19:38] <tumbleweed> err pbuilder-dist precise create then pbuilder-dist precise login
[19:38]  * inetpro has only played around with jails in FreeBSD
[19:38] <tumbleweed> 3rd time lucky
[19:38] <tumbleweed> inetpro: same thing, but with more security than chroots
[19:38] <tumbleweed> linux is getting closer to that with lxc
[19:39] <inetpro> quite nifty I must say
[19:39] <inetpro> nice to be able to isolate stuff 
[19:41]  * tumbleweed must be south african. I just browsed to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/filezille by mistake
[19:42]  * inetpro lol
[19:46] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:46] <superfly> hahaha
[19:46] <superfly> night Kilos
[19:46] <magespawn> Night kilos
[19:51] <magespawn> Brb going to change to the phone.
[19:56] <magespawn> back
[19:56] <magespawn> i assume you want to do that so you do not mess up your working machine
[19:58] <superfly> magespawn: amongst other things
[19:59] <magespawn> other things?
[20:18] <superfly> magespawn: things like you don't want your machine's settings messing up your packaging
[20:20] <magespawn> ahh so kind of like a neutral environment
[20:22] <superfly> exactly
[20:22] <magespawn> right that i can get
[20:32] <magespawn> i am off, night all.
[21:42] <superfly> tumbleweed: finally got round to configuring reportbug and filed that ITP
[21:42] <tumbleweed> :)
[21:49] <superfly> don't see it on bugs.debian.org yet, but I presume it'll get there eventually
[21:49] <superfly> 0_0 look at the time
[21:50] <superfly> I'd better head to lala land