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[04:28] <acmeinc1> len, and whomever else i mentioned regarding my frequent freezes.  it looks like it is a hardware issue.  I sent my Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 back and I'm picking up a similar Asus.  I hope this corrects everything.  I am using an older Athlon II board now, which has been running smooth for just about 24 hours.  I am yet to test the bluetooth issues though
[14:01] <davey> hey guys
[14:01] <aram> hi
[14:01] <aram> I have a problem with the PulseAudio -> Jack integration.
[14:02] <davey> what java plugins are available for browers? only one i can find icedtea keeps on crashing :(
[14:02] <aram> I have a M-Audio Profire 610 card (firewire).
[14:02] <aram> I use it with ffado in jack.
[14:02] <aram> and pulseaudio JACK sink looks like a 7.1 card.
[14:02] <aram> and pulseaudio uses all those channels.
[14:03] <aram> while I listen to stereo.
[14:03] <aram> it makes no sense, I don't mind if PA doesn't see all the channels this card has.
[14:03] <aram> but I want stereo music to remain stereo.
[14:03] <aram> any hints?
[14:04] <len-dt> aram, The only thing I can think is to turn down/off the chanels you don't want to hear with the pulse volume control.
[14:04] <len-dt> You may have to unlock the link between chanels
[14:05] <aram> I did that but it's still not right. Only those 2 channels get any signal, but it's distorted, it's not the original stereo signal.
[14:05] <aram> isn't it possible to configure the number of channels the Jack sink has?
[14:06] <len-dt> I think it is, but I don't know how. I haven't really played around with it that much.
[14:07] <len-dt> Have you tried unconnecting the chanels you don't want in the jack connect box?
[14:08] <aram> well yes, that mutes them, but the sound I get on the two channels I want still is not the original stereo source.
[14:10] <len-dt> I have a 4 track card... that looks like 10 channels in pulse-jack. I only have the two channels pulse uses for left and right connected to an amp and it seems ok.
[14:10] <len-dt> How does it sound with just pulse and no jack?
[14:11] <aram> impossible to tell, this card is not supported by alsa, it only works in Jack.
[14:11] <len-dt> Ah, Which channels are you using for left and right?
[14:13] <len-dt> Gotta go
[14:14] <aram> Front Left/Right are set in the PulseAudio thing and in Jack front-left/right are connected to firewire_pcm:..._Line_1_out and Line_2_out
[15:22] <aram> you can set "enable-remixing = no" in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf.
[15:22] <aram> that does it.
[15:22] <aram> thank you good people.
[16:14] <mbeierl> Using qtractor on ubuntu 11.10, with TAP Reverb ladspa plugin.  The "reverb types" are listed only as numeric ids, not by name.  How do I find out which number corresponds to "large hall"?
[16:15] <holstein> i would use the original audio tool... my ear
[16:15] <holstein> maybe asking the developer though, or troubleshooting the issue
[16:15] <holstein> maybe someone in #opensourcemusicians knows?
[16:50] <mbeierl> holstein, thanks.  Unfortunately, I cannot get any of the TAP reverb settings to sound natural, so I was going through the docs, but my version doesn't line up with the docs from 2004
[17:06] <sirriffsalot_> Hey guys! Are anyone here experienced in setting up guitar effects with ubuntu?
[17:07] <sirriffsalot_> If not, anyone aware of a/several guitar/effects IRC channel(s) in relation to Linux?:)
[17:20] <mbeierl> sirriffsalot_, what are you trying to do - record with effects, simply use the ubuntu box as an effect chain, or ...?
[17:23] <sirriffsalot_> mbeierl: well, I am curious as to how I would go about rigging guitarix or rakarrack, or any available open-source software to get as close to the guitar sound of the beginning guitars of a song called "The Chosen Pessimist" by In Flames:)
[17:41] <sirriffsalot_> mbeierl: no?:P
[17:51] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: you'd just need to load it up and dial in what you want
[17:51] <sirriffsalot_> holstein: uhm, dial in what I want?:S
[17:51] <holstein> there are all kinds of combinations such as using both of those tools (rakarrack and guitarix) together, and/or another tool or more
[17:51] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: correct
[17:51] <holstein> i dont think *anyone* will be able to tell you how to get the sound you are going for exactly
[17:52] <holstein> however folks in #opensourcemusicians might be more helpful
[17:52] <holstein> dialing in the sound you want is usually considered part of the fun though
[17:52] <sirriffsalot_> holstein: hmm ok. well, I have no idea what I am after in terms of all the options... What are some other guitar sweeties in Linux except rakarrack and guitarix?
[17:53] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: there are the actual affects you are going for
[17:53] <holstein> they are just effects, you can choose to use them on guitar or whatever
[17:53] <holstein> i use rakarrack on other things often
[17:54] <holstein> compression is used.. gates... you name it, you can load it up and put it on your guitar and dial it in
[17:54] <sirriffsalot_> Hmm, alright:) Cheers mate
[17:54] <holstein> sure
[17:54] <holstein> look at someones pedal board
[17:54] <holstein> emulate
[17:55] <holstein> ask guitar players what they use and emulate that in the workflow
[17:57] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: i would make it dead simple
[17:57] <holstein> i would grab a clip and put it up
[17:57] <sirriffsalot_> holstein: I don't know anyone playing guitar who use linux haha:)
[17:57] <holstein> or link to a youtube vid
[17:58] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: so
[17:58] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: you just need to know the effect types
[17:58] <sirriffsalot_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wye6CygA0Lc :P
[17:58] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: then, by taking a logical leap, you can fill in that gear with effects from the FOSS toolkit
[17:58] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: you should link that in the other channel is what im getting at
[17:58] <sirriffsalot_> FOSS toolkit..
[17:59] <sirriffsalot_> Doing that too
[17:59] <holstein> right now, you are asking a lot of a random passer-by
[17:59] <sirriffsalot_> Alright!
[18:00] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: thats really not much distortion
[18:00] <holstein> theres a preset in rakarrack that'll get close to that though
[18:00] <sirriffsalot_> holstein: alright? Which one?:)
[18:00] <holstein> thats almost clean
[18:00] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: i dont know what its called
[18:00] <holstein> and i dont have it pulled up
[18:01] <holstein> again... just go through til you get one close
[18:01] <holstein> and then tweak from there
[18:01] <sirriffsalot_> Ok, in the "standard set" of rakarrack?
[18:01] <holstein> yup
[18:02] <sirriffsalot_> Strange...
[18:02] <sirriffsalot_> I remember going through them a week and a half ago and not finding anything to my liking. Gonna look again in a while:)
[18:02] <sirriffsalot_> Cheers for the help mate!
[18:02] <holstein> anytime!
[18:03] <holstein> you wont find that one
[18:03] <holstein> you'll find something with lowgain that you can tweak
[18:12] <sirriffsalot_> holstein: "won't find that one"?
[18:14] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: you wont find a magic plugin that is *exactly* what you are looking for
[18:14] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: imagin you are putting presets in a piece of software like that
[18:14] <sirriffsalot_> holstein: I get that of course:)
[18:14] <sirriffsalot_> holstein: just after a timesaver;D Cheers=)
[18:15] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: right on... try that channel i mentioned
[18:15] <sirriffsalot_> holstein: did, but no reply haha:)
[18:25] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: when i joined this channel, i waited liertally 2 weeks for a response
[18:25] <holstein> then, i just stayed and started answering questions
[18:25] <holstein> thats why i suggest "self discovery"
[18:26] <holstein> thats really what is going to get you exactly what you want in the end anyways
[18:26] <sirriffsalot_> Yeah, but it's kinda hard to answer questions when you never get help in finding the answers before that...
[18:26] <sirriffsalot_> The reason people ask questions here is to save lots of tireless googling I suppose...
[18:26] <sirriffsalot_> I love helping people so:P Been at #ardour for some time now
[18:26] <holstein> cool.. glad to have you.. we can use the help :)
[18:26] <sirriffsalot_> But yes, I agree about that, I know what you're saying;)
[18:43] <foormea> hi. i'm affected by a bug with pitivi the prevents me from rendering anything
[18:43] <sirriffsalot_> foormea: pitivi?
[18:44] <foormea> what are my options to do my rendering? i have no other workstation with another distro installed and i tried running ubuntu 11.10 in a virtual machine and no luck
[18:44] <foormea> pitivi, yes, simple video editing program
[18:44] <holstein> foormea: i would get the config out of the way... either remove or rename in your /home directory or try with a new user account temporarily
[18:45] <holstein> foormea: i wouldnt expect rendering in VM to go well
[18:45] <foormea> no no it's a known/reported bug
[18:45] <holstein> foormea: cool.. it rendered for me in 10.04
[18:45] <foormea> i'm just wondering if i could render using another program, but i don't know much abotu video editing file standards
[18:45] <holstein> you can try 10.04, or 12.04 is live
[18:45] <holstein> foormea: sure... choose one and give it a go :)
[18:45] <holstein> oenshot and kdenlive are popular
[18:45] <sirriffsalot_> foormea: ah, cool. Will look into it, but can't help you there I'm afraid
[18:46] <foormea> argh... reinstalling  a whole distro somewhere just to render something... :(
[18:46] <holstein> openshot*
[18:46] <holstein> foormea: sure.. or one of my other suggestions
[18:46] <holstein> foormea: i just wouldnt personally expect rendering in VM to ever go smooth
[18:46] <foormea> yeah
[18:46] <holstein> im unaware of a bug,, and the 12.04 CD runs live
[18:47] <foormea> i'll do it with my work laptop later. got a 11.04 or somethig on it
[18:47] <sirriffsalot_> Is there a way of "saving" a ubuntu install on one computer and installing that copy on another computer?
[18:47] <holstein> foormea: srue.. or in the 12.04 live CD suggested
[18:47] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: you can close... you can try moving the /home directory
[18:47] <holstein> ubuntuone sync is an option as well
[18:48] <foormea> holstein: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pitivi/+bug/882790
[18:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 882790 in PiTiVi "PiTiVi fails to render" [Critical,Confirmed]
[18:48] <holstein> foormea: im not going to be much help with that...im just saying it could be another issue other than a bug
[18:48] <holstein> you can try removing the config files, or one of the other things i suggested
[18:48] <foormea> ah okay. yeah i'll give it a try
[18:49] <foormea> thanks for yoru suggestions!
[18:49] <holstein> foormea: sure
[18:49] <sirriffsalot_> holstein: But that still doesn't save all my settings in terms of appearance et cetera:(
[18:49] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: it saves what you like
[18:49] <sirriffsalot_> The home directory is just my files..
[18:50] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: thats where those settings should mostly be
[18:50] <sirriffsalot_> holstein: in terms of appearance?
[18:50] <sirriffsalot_> Oh
[18:50] <holstein> sirriffsalot_: should be... on a user level
[18:50] <sirriffsalot_> the .config etcc?
[18:50] <holstein> yup
[18:50] <sirriffsalot_> Hmmm
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[22:24] <len-dt> Aram, Sorry I had to run earlier. Had to get to work. Glad you figured it out.
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