[00:44] <knome> pleia2, we should get some publicity for "brainstorming is on for q", maybe write a quickish article tomorrow and publish, tweet and send to g+
[00:44] <knome> pleia2, and the mailing lists
[00:44] <pleia2> sounds good
[00:45] <pleia2> UDS people are already starting to descend upon us ;) running out to dinner with one of them now
[00:45] <knome> hehe
[00:45] <knome> have fun
[00:45]  * knome goes to bed
[00:45] <knome> btw, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu when you have a few mins
[00:46] <knome> now that i reduced the releases table, i'm wondering where we need it at all
[00:46] <knome> that should be on the website, because it's targeted mostly for userss
[00:46] <knome> -s
[00:46] <knome> anyway, time to think that tomorrow
[00:53]  * knome is off, see you
[00:56] <micahg> knome: in the blueprint for my assignment, please use [xubuntu-dev] (micahg)
[00:56] <micahg> knome: otherwise, it shows up on the WI tracker for the security team which we don't want
[09:34] <knome> mr_pouit, a-ha. didn't know that - thanks :)
[09:41] <knome> err, micahg !
[09:41] <knome> damn those nicks.
[09:41] <mips1911> leave mr_pouit alone, I need him to finish the 4.10 stuff :)
[09:43] <knome> that was exactly what i was bugging him about. for Q though
[10:02] <mips1911> in that case keep bugging him :D
[12:12] <knome> pleia2, you there?
[12:27] <knome> brainstorm doesn't support ubuntu SSO?
[12:27]  * knome blinks
[12:28] <knome> generally, it's just quite ungraspable
[16:00] <pleia2> knome: heh, I'm not sure how maintained it is in general
[16:23] <knome> pleia2, there's a session of it on openweek
[16:28] <pleia2> knome: oh, it's an active community and developers review it routinely for ideas, I meant the infrastructure itself
[16:28] <knome> heh
[16:28] <pleia2> it "just works" so it chugs along, hasn't had a branding update, I think it's still some old drupal
[16:28] <knome> the xubuntu devs don't :]
[16:28] <pleia2> well, it took a few UDS sessions for any devs to
[16:29] <knome> mmh.
[16:30] <Unit193> Says it uses this http://www.ideatorrent.org/
[16:30] <knome> "Ideatorrent ... is based on Drupal."
[16:32] <Unit193> Yep, so old+old=really old.
[16:33] <knome> and since drupal sucks anyway... ;)
[16:33] <knome> == really old crap
[16:33] <Unit193> Yep, pretty much.
[18:15] <GridCube> talking about the qa testing and stuff
[18:16] <knome> yes?
[18:16] <GridCube> i think the testing protocols should show the current known bugs, so people know what to test and look for
[18:16] <GridCube> i think that many people goes blind to tests and miss stuff because we don't know what we should be looking at
[18:17] <knome> mmh.
[18:17] <knome> that's a good idea, but what are the "current known bugs" ?
[18:17] <knome> are they bugs that have been found in the tests?
[18:17] <knome> because those *are* already visible
[18:19] <GridCube> yes they should be bugs reported on tests, say in the last 10 tests for a case
[18:20] <GridCube> say you do alternate i386 tests, so you will see the "known issues with this testcase" and you might have like a checklist
[18:20] <GridCube> saying does this happen to you? and you click yes or no
[18:21] <GridCube> or click in like "something different happens" and you go to a bug report
[18:21] <knome> mm-hmm
[18:24] <GridCube> i think that would make testings more useful
[18:24] <GridCube> now most tests are "see if it installs and runs" 
[18:24] <GridCube> but no actual "testing" is done with the system
[18:24] <knome> what about the testcase
[18:25] <knome> we are about to update those
[18:25] <knome> to be more xubuntu specific
[18:25] <GridCube> i see
[18:25] <knome> and include the short/long tests there
[18:26] <GridCube> o: i forgot about my tutorial for alternate installation 
[18:26] <knome> heh
[18:26] <knome> :)
[18:26] <knome> anyway
[18:26] <knome> i'll be back later
[18:26] <knome> i need to chat with stgraber
[18:26] <knome> about the qa tracker
[18:26] <GridCube> will try to do it one of this days
[18:27] <knome> and i'm sure it would be useful if you could help me and astraljava getting the new testcases written/reviewed
[18:27] <knome> but that would be in week 20 most probably
[18:27] <knome> or weekend of week 19
[18:28] <knome> (not saturday)
[18:28] <GridCube> if i can i will help
[18:29] <knome> i'm sure you can, you've been doing the tests, and you know if something is written badly or so
[18:37] <GridCube> ok
[18:37] <GridCube> :)
[18:37] <knome> but we'll get back to you once we sit down with it
[19:28] <GridCube> what use does catfish have?
[20:22] <knome> GridCube, search for files?
[20:22] <GridCube> and do what with them?
[20:22] <GridCube> see where they are?
[20:22] <knome> yeah
[20:22] <GridCube> and?
[20:22] <knome> or generally, just find them
[20:22] <knome> nothing else
[20:22] <GridCube> thats not very useful
[20:23] <knome> well, it depends so much how you organize your files
[20:23] <knome> some people never think when they save, so it makes sense to have a search app
[20:24] <GridCube> yes, i can agree with that 100% pero you need to do something with the files you find
[20:24] <GridCube> lol s/pero/but/
[20:26] <knome> well of course you can navigate to that location etc
[20:28] <GridCube> knome, but say you want to find all the .abw you have on ~/ and save them on /media/pendrive 
[20:29] <GridCube> theres no way of doing that with today's xubuntu unless you do some find -exec magic
[20:29] <knome> GridCube, apparently you can copy single files from catfish
[20:29] <knome> (not select all, but that's understandable in a away)
[20:29] <knome> s/away/way/
[20:29] <GridCube> :/
[21:16] <mips1911> Any news on the 4.10 ppa?
[21:17] <knome> no
[21:17] <mips1911> :(