| P-Chan | lapsusbrutus: what is kiosk mode? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| lapsusbrutus | pretty desperate trying to locking down the panels. | 00:00 |
| P-Chan | lapsusbrutus: is possible lock panels in xfce? | 00:01 |
| lapsusbrutus | have to have a computer ready for tomorrow morning :| with a locked down UI, I read xfce had kiosk mode and installed. kioskmode works on everything but the panels :\ | 00:01 |
| lapsusbrutus | P-Chan: sais so in wiki: http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/kiosk_mode?rev=1271624433 | 00:02 |
| knome | lapsusbrutus, i think you'd be better off asking in #xfce :) | 00:02 |
| P-Chan | lapsusbrutus: THANKs. I love XFCE. I hope XFCE neve change | 00:03 |
| knome | lapsusbrutus, i mean, feel free to hang around here too, but i haven't seen pretty much any questions about kiosk mode for ages | 00:03 |
| lapsusbrutus | did that, seems like its not something most people care about :) | 00:04 |
| knome | mmh, probably true, it's not like people want kiosk mode at home :) | 00:04 |
| lapsusbrutus | I use awesomewm, and love it. but xfce is pretty nice too :) cant get used to overlapping windows though | 00:05 |
| P-Chan | lapsusbrutus: when I start my xubuntu(he automatically log on) the option to chosse my session or default ever appears. How I choose login automatic? | 00:08 |
| aguitel | P-Chan, go application menu and then system | 00:09 |
| aguitel | P-Chan, in system go to users and groups | 00:10 |
| P-Chan | thanks. I will try it. How put places menu INSIde XFCE menu | 00:10 |
| P-Chan | in the system ok | 00:10 |
| tbrown | Am going to install xubuntu and do a review on it and ideas for me to say:) | 00:11 |
| aguitel | good look | 00:11 |
| aguitel | is very hard .... jejeje | 00:11 |
| P-Chan | aguitel: xubuntu isn't hard. Pure debian is hard. | 00:12 |
| aguitel | P-Chan, e piada | 00:12 |
| tbrown | aguitel: what do you mean that xubuntu is hard | 00:12 |
| knome | rock solid | 00:12 |
| aguitel | tbrown, is joke | 00:12 |
| tbrown | ok | 00:13 |
| P-Chan | meu xubuntu tá instavel mas não tão instavel como o Kubuntu | 00:13 |
| knome | aguitel, P-Chan: english only please | 00:13 |
| aguitel | P-Chan, stable do you say ? | 00:13 |
| tbrown | aguitel: I think that am going to install it on my main computer wish me luck | 00:13 |
| P-Chan | knome: sorry wrong tab | 00:13 |
| aguitel | tbrown, i wish you | 00:14 |
| tbrown | aguitel: How can I get a job that has linux in it am 19 years old and am in high school still | 00:15 |
| P-Chan | Is possible create remastered Xubuntu in Windows XP or Seveb? | 00:15 |
| aguitel | tbrown, what that means ? | 00:15 |
| tbrown | never mind | 00:16 |
| tbrown | Who in here works for linux | 00:16 |
| liznevada | damn | 00:16 |
| aguitel | i dont know | 00:16 |
| liznevada | thunar doesnt mount my blackberry as massive storage | 00:17 |
| liznevada | barry and linberry detects the blackberry | 00:18 |
| P-Chan | Ok guys other question: How put places menu inside XFCE Menu | 00:23 |
| P-Chan | ? | 00:23 |
| tbrown | Does Xubuntu Get Virus or Bugs:) | 00:26 |
| tbrown | IF so Can I get a program that will help me with that stuff | 00:26 |
| Sysi | unless you run random binaries/scripts from internet, no | 00:27 |
| Marzata | http://voyager.legtux.org/ is a nice spin | 00:27 |
| P-Chan | Virus affects all systemsn | 00:27 |
| P-Chan | Marzata: I don't like forks because has few programers | 00:27 |
| knome | P-Chan, the places menu is a panel applet and you can't add that in the xubuntu menu | 00:28 |
| P-Chan | knome: ok thanks | 00:28 |
| knome | there is pretty much no viruses on linux. | 00:28 |
| knome | even those which exists will need you typing your password at a wrong time (or from their POV, the right time) | 00:29 |
| knome | so as long as you use common sense and think twice before typing your password, you should be fine | 00:29 |
| liznevada | so a blackberry on massive storage mode must be monted by thunar right? | 00:29 |
| knome | of course bugs exist in packages, but no application can fight that :) | 00:30 |
| rolesp | well finaly I have 12.04 working | 00:48 |
| rolesp | all the problems gone after the install of the ati video driver | 00:49 |
| foobArrr | remind me to do a clean install instead of an upgrade next time ... | 01:20 |
| foobArrr | I still have trouble with keyboard shortcuts. I defined shortcuts for window positioning with wmctrl, they all are <Super> + a keypad key. the work fine with most programs, but not with all of them. they don't work e.g. with xchat. any ideas? | 01:30 |
| lapsusbrutus | made kiosk mode work :) | 01:51 |
| foobArrr | kiosk mode? | 01:52 |
| lapsusbrutus | foobArrr: all locked down. for public computers, or noob-extreemes | 02:03 |
| Mullins | hello, when will xfce 4.10 be applied to xubuntu? | 02:10 |
| Unit193 | In 12.10. | 02:13 |
| Mullins | Yikes | 02:14 |
| Unit193 | Unless you add a PPA. | 02:19 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| fabio | hi guys | 02:35 |
| fabio | when i try "Extract here" gives me an error | 02:35 |
| fabio | Failed to extract files. No suitable archive manager found. | 02:36 |
| fabio | but ive seen on ubuntu software centre and the package its installed | 02:36 |
| tbrown | What is it called when you have two monitors and you use the other one for space. I need to use my other monitor for space but I dont know how to do it. I have two pictures that are doing the same thing:) | 02:56 |
| tbrown | Is anyone on this channel lol:) | 03:03 |
| rolesp | to install java do I install do I install de jdk7 from software center or download java from the java site? | 03:36 |
| === toga-blue is now known as toga | ||
| GridCube | rolesp, the one in the site might be more up to date | 03:47 |
| GridCube | compare the version numbers | 03:47 |
| rolesp | ok gridcube, tnks | 03:47 |
| rolesp | the latest in java site es 6.31 | 03:47 |
| GridCube | rolesp, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java | 03:49 |
| rolesp | bbl | 04:05 |
| === reon is now known as mips | ||
| === mips is now known as mips1911 | ||
| mips1911 | waits patiently for 4.10 PPA, sigh | 08:14 |
| baizon | :) | 08:19 |
| koegs | i am havin problems with the hotkeys | 08:36 |
| koegs | i defined "Maximize Window" with Super+UP, but it does not work after reboot | 08:36 |
| koegs | using Xubuntu 12.04 AMD64 with alternate installer and dmcrypt | 08:37 |
| mips1911 | koegs, where do you set that. I can try this side and see what gives | 08:45 |
| mips1911 | koegs, I just tried it with the default <Alt>F7 and that does not work either, all the other shortcuts do work though. | 08:48 |
| koegs | in Settingshm | 08:49 |
| koegs | hm, in 11.10 it was working without problems | 08:49 |
| well_laid_lawn | saving thesession? | 08:49 |
| well_laid_lawn | saving the session? | 08:49 |
| well_laid_lawn | derp | 08:50 |
| koegs | also it takes some time until the standard-hotkeys for browser, terminal, etc. are working | 08:51 |
| Marzata | Super is the windows' flag key? | 08:53 |
| koegs | yes | 08:53 |
| koegs | also tried ALT_L + Up as an alternative, same problem | 08:53 |
| Marzata | I use that key to change language layouts. | 08:53 |
| mips1911 | double clicking a window also does not maximise it | 08:59 |
| koegs | thats working here | 08:59 |
| mips1911 | koegs, just tried again, seems my double click speed is to slow to be picked up, if i click really fast it works, thx | 09:02 |
| xuserx | does anyone know how make ubuntu customization kit work with xubuntu12.04 ? >Failed to copy resolv.conf, error=1 | 09:02 |
| xuserx | :) | 09:02 |
| xuserx | please help me | 09:04 |
| xuserx | :-D | 09:04 |
| xuserx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/uck/+bug/946480 | 09:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 946480 in uck (Ubuntu) "Remastering Precise fails on resolv.conf" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:04 |
| xuserx | so, how can i fix this error? | 09:04 |
| xuserx | :-D | 09:05 |
| xuserx | can you help me? | 09:06 |
| ceelight | Hi! Does anyone know where I could get the netboot.tar.gz of xubuntu 12.04? Thanks! | 09:07 |
| ceelight | xuserx: What's your problem? | 09:08 |
| well_laid_lawn | xuserx: from the bug report you have to remaster the iso afaict | 09:08 |
| ceelight | ah, ok... | 09:08 |
| well_laid_lawn | !minimal | 09:09 |
| ubottu | The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 09:09 |
| well_laid_lawn | ceelight: ^^ | 09:10 |
| xuserx | so i cant remaster xubuntu 12.04 iso? | 09:10 |
| well_laid_lawn | xuserx: you can if you want | 09:10 |
| xuserx | but how can i fix that error? | 09:10 |
| ceelight | well_laid_lawn: thx, I'll give it a try. | 09:12 |
| xuserx | well_laid_lawn: how can i fix that error? | 09:12 |
| mips1911 | ceelight, is there not a single netboot file for all the flavours after which you do a cli install and choose you're apps/DE? | 09:13 |
| well_laid_lawn | xuserx: see post #10 of the bugreport | 09:13 |
| mips1911 | ceelight, as far as i know it works similar to the alternate cd. But here is the netboot files for 12.04 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/precise/ | 09:14 |
| xuserx | well_laid_lawn: what post? | 09:15 |
| xuserx | ok | 09:16 |
| ceelight | mips1911: thanks for the link! Problem is that on the machine where I want to install xubuntu the cdrom is broken. The BIOS doesn't let me boot from USB, so netbook. | 09:16 |
| ceelight | -k+t | 09:16 |
| mips1911 | ceelight, then that link will work for you, just select the right architecture, i386, amd64 etc. | 09:17 |
| ceelight | mips1911: yeah, no problem. Not the first time for me... ;-) Thanks again! | 09:18 |
| mips1911 | ceelight, no problemo ;) | 09:18 |
| qwerkus | hi, I'm trying to upgrade Xubuntu from 11.10 to 12.04, but it stucks at "Could not calculate the upgrade" | 09:30 |
| qwerkus | how can I find out where exactly the problem is ? | 09:30 |
| qwerkus | is there any logfile ? | 09:30 |
| qwerkus | Thank for help | 09:30 |
| xuserx | i cant fix that error | 09:35 |
| knome | qwerkus, try to run 'sudo apt-get update', 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' and retry | 09:35 |
| qwerkus | @knome: ok, on my way | 09:35 |
| xuserx | any ideas? | 09:36 |
| xuserx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/uck/+bug/946480 | 09:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 946480 in uck (Ubuntu) "Remastering Precise fails on resolv.conf" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:36 |
| xuserx | can you help me please? | 09:37 |
| qwerkus | "[Waiting for headers]" = ubuntu servers too busy ? | 09:38 |
| well_laid_lawn | or there's lots of 'em | 09:39 |
| xuserx | i added that text (post #10) to libraries/remaster-live-cd.sh script but i receive the same error | 09:39 |
| xubuntu668 | hi, I have an issue with xubuntu 12.04: if I choose another theme (darklook for example) lots of windows won't get themed (like package manager, password request) | 09:39 |
| knome | xubuntu668, many themes aren't gtk3 complete - there isn't much you can do about it | 09:40 |
| knome | xuserx, i suppose there would be better channels to ask about UCK, but i don't know which - have you tried from #ubuntu ? | 09:40 |
| Sysi | gnome-look.org and xfce-look.org have quite nice variety of gtk3 themes | 09:41 |
| xubuntu668 | ok, I'll try gnome-look.org and xfce-look.org and see if I find some nice dark theme | 09:42 |
| xuserx | how can i install uck 2.4.6 svn? | 09:49 |
| === mcdonc__ is now known as mcdonc | ||
| xuserx | i will try uck 2.4.6 svn | 09:50 |
| xuserx | how can i empty root trash in xubuntu? | 09:51 |
| xuserx | how can i empty root trash in xubuntu? | 09:52 |
| well_laid_lawn | !root | 09:53 |
| ubottu | Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo | 09:53 |
| well_laid_lawn | there shouldn't be a rrot trash | 09:53 |
| well_laid_lawn | s/rrot/root/ | 09:53 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | Hi, how do I config my xfce session so that after x minutes the screen will fade and go to a login screen (i.e. the screen locks)? | 09:54 |
| Sysi | WhereIsMySpoon: see screensaver settings | 09:55 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | Sysi, ah i had screensaver disabled | 09:56 |
| well_laid_lawn | WhereIsMySpoon: there's a plugin - http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-time-out-plugin | 09:56 |
| Marzata | or xtrlock is cool too. it locks the keyboard, while screen visible. | 09:57 |
| WhereIsMySpoon | ok thanks people | 09:58 |
| xuserx | i trierd uck 2.4.6 svn and the same error | 10:18 |
| xuserx | Failed to copy resolv.conf, error=1 | 10:18 |
| xuserx | Build ended at 2012-05-01 13:17:42 | 10:18 |
| xuserx | any ideas? | 10:19 |
| xubuntu-lover | got d/c. is there a guide to porting a theme to gtk3 around? | 10:48 |
| knome | no, not really. it's not a simple/quick task whatsoever | 10:49 |
| xubuntu-lover | tch | 10:49 |
| xubuntu-lover | I supposed so | 10:49 |
| xubuntu-lover | so no luck in the theme side | 10:50 |
| xubuntu-lover | T_T | 10:50 |
| xubuntu-lover | well, question 2 | 10:50 |
| xubuntu-lover | network | 10:50 |
| xubuntu-lover | I'm using xubuntu precise on a netbook | 10:50 |
| xubuntu-lover | I used to be able to share the inet connection with a desktop via lan cable | 10:51 |
| xubuntu-lover | wifi has inet from the access point, the eth interface has "shared with other PC" set and all used to work | 10:52 |
| xubuntu-lover | address was 10.42.43.68 | 10:52 |
| xubuntu-lover | , and if I reboot the netbook it becames | 10:53 |
| xubuntu-lover | I noticed that if I reboot, I get a 10.42.0.68 address, and that works as before | 10:54 |
| xubuntu-lover | but it's not persistent on reboot | 10:54 |
| xubuntu-lover | as soon I poweroff, it loses all of this | 10:55 |
| xubuntu-lover | happens just with xubuntu, older ubuntu works | 10:56 |
| xubuntu-lover | any idea on how to fix this? | 10:57 |
| xubuntu-lover | damn! phone | 10:57 |
| === tomreyn_ is now known as tomreyn | ||
| knome | somebody able to suggest a good printer-scanner-copier for linux? | 11:30 |
| knome | for personal use, doesn't have to be high-end or anything | 11:30 |
| Myrtti | knome: depends what you're looking for in it | 11:33 |
| knome | just the features, in color | 11:33 |
| knome | doesn't have to be anything special, just work | 11:33 |
| Myrtti | alright, I suppose HP is good in that then. If you were looking for black and white laser I'd say Samsung | 11:33 |
| knome | any hp model, or something specific? | 11:34 |
| knome | it's for my mom, she already has a hp i think, but i also think that one is borked | 11:34 |
| Myrtti | I've got one in Finland and one in UK, SCX-4200 and SCX-4500W and they work mostly plug and play, the scanner sharing over network needs a bit more work but oh well | 11:34 |
| Myrtti | (of Samsung) | 11:35 |
| knome | hah, "over network" doesn't belong in her repertoire anyway | 11:35 |
| knome | but yeah, now that you mention it, i think it wouldn't hurt if it was a network printer | 11:35 |
| Myrtti | almost any HP should be fine, they are usually well supported with hplip | 11:36 |
| knome | mm-hmm. good | 11:37 |
| knome | thanks | 11:37 |
| Myrtti | check linuxprinting etc first tho | 11:37 |
| knome | heh, verkkokauppa.com is advertisin a hp all-in-one | 11:37 |
| Myrtti | what I'd really suggest tho is to consider black and white lasers | 11:37 |
| knome | i'm 99% confident that's a no-go | 11:38 |
| Myrtti | the ink is more expensive but it yields longer and is cheaper and faster | 11:38 |
| Myrtti | ie. money used at one time at purchase is more, but it prints more pages being cheaper at the end of the day | 11:38 |
| knome | yeah, i know | 11:39 |
| knome | but again, it's not for me | 11:39 |
| knome | though i'd go for an inkjet too, but (at least) a3 and print-over-edge | 11:39 |
| Myrtti | the SCX-4200 I bought in late 2007 is only now running out of it's introductory smaller ink casette | 11:39 |
| knome | but that's a different story... | 11:39 |
| knome | huho, yeah | 11:39 |
| Myrtti | main use has has been printing train/flight tickets and occasional code printout | 11:40 |
| Myrtti | unless she is printing photographs, which is stupid, there is relatively small benefits in having a colour inkjet | 11:40 |
| Myrtti | just something to think about... | 11:41 |
| mips1911 | knome, hp officejet series. One with built in lan is even better. Got a 6313 which is great | 11:41 |
| knome | Myrtti, yeah... | 11:42 |
| knome | wireless mice work usually well, right? | 11:57 |
| ablomen | knome, i second hp printers, the drivers worked for everything i attached to pc's (from 90's plotters to modern all in ones etc), and wireless mice/keyboards work fine, at least if you go for something decent like logitech etc | 12:12 |
| knome | yeah, she has a logitech mouse | 12:12 |
| knome | and acutally, a hp printer too ;) | 12:12 |
| ablomen | Heh ok that should be fine then :) | 12:15 |
| knome | i hope so. possibly going to install 12.04 for her tomorrow | 12:16 |
| knome | or if not tomorrow, any time soon whatsoever | 12:17 |
| ablomen | nice, I know my mom appreciated the interface/stability etc after switching from windows 7, xfce is seems very mom-friendly ;) | 12:19 |
| Sysi | I should upgrade mom's laptop to 12.04 | 12:19 |
| knome | yup, wife-friendly too! | 12:19 |
| mips1911 | knome, I also have a logitech wireless mouse on my laptop | 12:20 |
| Myrtti | I might be migrating my sister's machine to Xubuntu with 12.04 | 12:22 |
| baizon | ich will upgrade moms laptop from 10.4 when 12.04.1 is released :) | 12:23 |
| Myrtti | so it's rolereversal, I've moved from Xubuntu to Ubuntu on 11.10, and she'll move to Xubuntu from Ubuntu on 12.04 | 12:23 |
| yell0w | baizon: wimp | 12:25 |
| * yell0w >_> | 12:25 | |
| knome | yell0w, please, we don't need that attitude | 12:25 |
| baizon | wimp? | 12:25 |
| knome | upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04.1 is encouraged | 12:25 |
| yell0w | hahaha knome jk | 12:25 |
| knome | yell0w, please don't | 12:25 |
| baizon | jk? | 12:26 |
| knome | yell0w, irony is really hard to "get" over irc | 12:26 |
| yell0w | i am on 10.4 waiting for 12.04.1 | 12:26 |
| baizon | words please, no shortcuts | 12:26 |
| baizon | a ok | 12:26 |
| baizon | xubuntu or ubuntu? | 12:26 |
| yell0w | been using ubuntu up until 2 days ago | 12:27 |
| Sysi | unity offers some really interesting options for power users, but I'm happy with my xfce setup | 12:28 |
| yell0w | i saw 12.04 come out so i thought, time to start migrating | 12:28 |
| yell0w | :D | 12:28 |
| Myrtti | Sysi: yeah I suspect the brilliance of Unity is lost on my sister | 12:28 |
| Myrtti | Sysi: and XFCE is fine for her just like it was fine for me | 12:28 |
| Myrtti | I'd probably still be using Xubuntu if Unity hadn't grown on me when I used it on a tablet machine | 12:29 |
| Sysi | Myrtti: I can't know if she'd hate it, but she'll probably like xfce | 12:29 |
| knome | Myrtti, so, as somebody who went the other way, what's in unity that you didn't get from xfce - or is it about something else? | 12:29 |
| Myrtti | knome: I absolutely love the Empathy/Gmail indicator integration | 12:30 |
| knome | hmm. can't you have that in xfce too? | 12:30 |
| Myrtti | I used a lot of keyboard shortcuts on XFCE too, so that's nothing new | 12:30 |
| Sysi | I never really got that integration when I used gnome-shell.. maybe I'm not active enough with IMs | 12:31 |
| Myrtti | what I like is the ease of looking up applications and files with the Unity search thingie, it's like a cross between Gnome-Do, Run dialog and the menus | 12:32 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 12:32 |
| Myrtti | Sysi: it's more about the email integration for me | 12:32 |
| Sysi | ah | 12:32 |
| baizon | i use popper :) | 12:32 |
| baizon | very nice for multiple email account | 12:33 |
| * knome only wants email when he clicks email | 12:33 | |
| Myrtti | perhaps I should try to do that screencast | 12:33 |
| Myrtti | again | 12:33 |
| knome | \o/ | 12:33 |
| * Sysi installing synapse | 12:35 | |
| yell0w | Myrtti: i'm the other way around. i prefer gnome-do over unity | 12:35 |
| baizon | yell0w: i use synapse :) | 12:35 |
| baizon | loving it since day 1 | 12:36 |
| yell0w | not in the repo ? | 12:36 |
| Sysi | for 10.04 maybe not yet | 12:37 |
| Sysi | baizon: do I need to add it to autostart? | 12:37 |
| baizon | Sysi: damn i forgot | 12:38 |
| baizon | if im not wrong there should be an option | 12:38 |
| baizon | to autolaunch | 12:38 |
| Sysi | seems to be, I guess that works | 12:38 |
| * knome is off, see you all later | 12:39 | |
| baizon | cu knome | 12:40 |
| Sysi | meh, synapse is nowhere near the usability of spotlight | 12:41 |
| baizon | Sysi: your using xubuntu? | 12:43 |
| Sysi | yup | 12:43 |
| baizon | i mean its the same as spotlight =) | 12:44 |
| Sysi | much worse with files | 12:44 |
| baizon | ok | 12:45 |
| baizon | but there is no spotlight for linux? | 12:45 |
| Sysi | I have mac too | 12:46 |
| baizon | ok | 12:54 |
| yell0w | Sysi: kupfer ? | 12:54 |
| yell0w | does ctrl-f4 not work in xubuntu ? | 12:55 |
| Sysi | does it even work for searching files? | 12:55 |
| yell0w | yes Sysi | 12:55 |
| Sysi | whta should ctrl F4 do? | 12:55 |
| yell0w | close tabs ? | 12:55 |
| yell0w | i swear it was working yesterday :~( | 12:55 |
| yell0w | now it's not | 12:56 |
| GridCube | yell0w, ctrl-w | 12:57 |
| Sysi | kupfer doesn't really look any better.. | 12:57 |
| yell0w | GridCube: can i change it somewhere ? | 12:58 |
| yell0w | Sysi: it's got lots of plugins | 12:58 |
| GridCube | yell0w, read this http://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release/ | 12:58 |
| yell0w | GridCube: i'm on 10.04 | 12:58 |
| GridCube | O_o | 12:58 |
| GridCube | okay | 12:59 |
| GridCube | 10.04 used xfce 4.6 | 12:59 |
| GridCube | i dunno | 13:00 |
| GridCube | :/ | 13:00 |
| GridCube | yell0w, try this http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=5978 | 13:02 |
| hydester | running xubuntu 12.04 and can't get my dual monitors working again. only mirrored. tried xrandr with --left-of and it flickrs and stays mirrored. tried settings editor and changed one monitor position without any effect after reboot. any other suggestions? using VGA1 and DVI1 | 13:02 |
| GridCube | yell0w, that last one should really help you | 13:04 |
| GridCube | hydester, try using arandr | 13:04 |
| yell0w | GridCube: thanks | 13:04 |
| hydester | GridCube: hey. i did and dragging them apart doesn't unmirror them | 13:05 |
| hydester | closing and opening arandr they are overlapped again | 13:05 |
| hydester | okay, i was able to do this as a workaround: xrandr --output DVI1 --pos 1024x0 | 13:07 |
| hydester | in the past i have used position only in settings editor or --left/right-of via xrandr | 13:07 |
| hipparchia | hi :) | 13:11 |
| Myrtti | knome, Sysi: http://youtu.be/ERv2SOGL2Yw | 13:12 |
| xubuntu317 | hello | 13:32 |
| === jalcine is now known as jacky | ||
| jpastore | hi, where do I go to create a CIFS or SSHFS mount in xubuntu? is there a Places/connect to server? or should I just use the mount command? | 13:55 |
| Tibuda | jpastore: for ssh, use gigolo | 14:01 |
| jpastore | tibuda, ok something I cna install from the ubuntu software manager? | 14:02 |
| Tibuda | it is already installed in xubuntu, under the system menu | 14:02 |
| jpastore | tibuda, ok I found it and I can browse my other box, is there a way to mount with this? I want to mount a folder on the remote server into a local folder. | 14:05 |
| jpastore | tibuda, i think I may have figured it out before you spin wheels pointing me to docs or anything | 14:08 |
| jpastore | thanks for the tips. I'll let you know if I have an issue...you rock! =) | 14:08 |
| Tibuda | ok | 14:09 |
| autif | I have a USB-serial dongle (067b:2303) - it used to work fine in Natty/Oneiric as a user, however, in Precise, I need to sudo to send/receive data from it - how do I fix this? | 14:11 |
| jpastore | Tibuda: ok I got it bookmarked but I don't see how to mount it. should I use sshfs/fstab? | 14:15 |
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| Tibuda | jpastore: gigolo uses gvfs, which mounts everything in ~/.gvfs | 14:32 |
| jpastore | interesting | 14:33 |
| jpastore | I'll look up that syntax shortly. while waiting I started on trying sshfs | 14:33 |
| jpastore | ok well sshfs not working as intended. let me see if gvfs is installed and how to make that work. | 14:34 |
| palmpilot | hi, is there another way to deliver additional options/arguments to the graphic driver than creating and fiddeling around a manually created xorg.conf? | 14:53 |
| autif | I have a USB-serial dongle (067b:2303) - it used to work fine in Natty/Oneiric as a user, however, in Precise, I need to sudo to send/receive data from it - how do I fix this? I am guessing that somehow udev needs to be tweaked - I just can not figure out how | 15:21 |
| zth | tips for a easy way to control the cpu-governors? | 15:41 |
| zth | in xfce | 15:41 |
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| nishttal2 | how can i setup the SSD on this machine to always mount at /ssd on reboot | 16:24 |
| Unit193 | nishttal2: By using fstab. | 16:28 |
| nishttal2 | Unit193, command not found.. do i need to isntall it? | 16:31 |
| Unit193 | !fstab | 16:31 |
| ubottu | The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions | 16:31 |
| nishttal2 | Unit193, aah i see | 16:31 |
| Unit193 | I use that to mount a SMB share to /mnt | 16:31 |
| nishttal2 | so i need the UUID for the drive? | 16:32 |
| Unit193 | Not hard to pickup. | 16:33 |
| nishttal2 | in Ubuntu there was disk utility.. i dont see that in xubuntu | 16:34 |
| nishttal2 | do you know how i can install that | 16:34 |
| nishttal2 | i can just use /dev/sdb instead of UUID | 16:37 |
| Unit193 | gparted was it, I'd think. You can also sudo blkid | 16:37 |
| nishttal2 | ok made the entry now do i reboot or is there another way to make this show up? | 16:38 |
| nishttal2 | i did this btw.. /dev/sdb1 /ssd ext4 defaults 0 2 | 16:39 |
| Unit193 | I don't remember what's supposed to be there, but sudo mount -a will mount it, if it's correct. | 16:42 |
| nishttal2 | yeah that worked.. thanks :) | 16:43 |
| Unit193 | Great1 | 16:43 |
| nishttal2 | so at reboot this is automatically run? | 16:43 |
| Unit193 | s/1/\!/ | 16:43 |
| Unit193 | Yeop. | 16:43 |
| nishttal2 | sweet | 16:43 |
| nishttal2 | Unit193, can i put samba shares in fstab? | 16:50 |
| Unit193 | If not, better tell me quick so I can remove mine. >_> | 16:50 |
| nishttal2 | hahah.. how do i provide the password for it | 16:50 |
| nishttal2 | if its happening at boot time | 16:51 |
| Unit193 | credentials=/path/to/file | 16:51 |
| Unit193 | //192.168.1.100/public /mnt/alpha/public cifs credentials=/root/alphawvm,uid=1000,gid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0 (Note, this is really not a good way to do it. :P ) | 16:52 |
| nishttal2 | perfect creating credentials file now | 16:53 |
| Sandor | Hello | 17:08 |
| liznevada | so, anybody here has a blackberry? | 17:08 |
| Sandor | I need some help | 17:08 |
| Sandor | I used ndiswrapper to install a driver for Netgear WNA1000M adapter | 17:08 |
| Sandor | Then I went to manage connection | 17:09 |
| Sandor | Plugged in my info | 17:09 |
| Sandor | And nothing | 17:09 |
| Sandor | I believe this is Lucid | 17:09 |
| Sandor | Not sure then | 17:09 |
| Sandor | Any help would be great | 17:09 |
| Sandor | Oh, and I don't have ethernet connection | 17:11 |
| Sandor | Desktop, far from modem | 17:11 |
| Unit193 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs That's about all I can give you, that and there's a GUI for it too. Never had to use it. | 17:12 |
| Sandor | Well, thank you. | 17:15 |
| liznevada | so all folks use android huh? | 17:16 |
| Unit193 | Not necessarily, just the active ones don't use BlackBerry. | 17:17 |
| liznevada | i mean, i try to use the massive storage but xubuntu doesnt mount it | 17:17 |
| liznevada | but barry and linberry detectes the phone | 17:17 |
| liznevada | and lsusb as well | 17:17 |
| Unit193 | !info barrybackup-gui | 17:18 |
| ubottu | barrybackup-gui (source: barry): GTK+ based GUI for backing up the RIM BlackBerry Handheld. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15-1.2 (precise), package size 72 kB, installed size 290 kB | 17:18 |
| liznevada | barry detects the phone and can sync and all, but the massive storage mode doesnt work | 17:18 |
| liznevada | xubuntu doesnt mount it | 17:19 |
| liznevada | btw fedo** using KD* mounts it as USB Key | 17:19 |
| Unit193 | You could try manually with mount. | 17:20 |
| Unit193 | I've never used a BB before, so I'm not likely to know for sure. | 17:21 |
| liznevada | yeah but the pc with xubuntu is not for me. but for my brother, a non linux user | 17:21 |
| liznevada | and xubuntu mounts regulars usb keys but not the god***** phone | 17:23 |
| martinphone | can anyone please paste the command used to scan from the terminal? was it pnma something? | 17:25 |
| Myrtti | blackberries aren't even sold where I live | 17:26 |
| bjornborg | hi! does thunar remember its window position? | 17:28 |
| nishttal2 | Unit193, i am getting this error with samba share http://www.fpaste.org/YPt0/ | 17:29 |
| Unit193 | nishttal2: Did you check dmesg? (type that into terminal to see) and can you paste the line you use too? | 17:30 |
| Unit193 | Also, what did you use to make the auth file? It's a bit picky on that. | 17:30 |
| nishttal2 | i install cifs-utils and now it works.. thanks :) | 17:30 |
| Unit193 | I did nothing, but you're welcome. | 17:31 |
| nishttal2 | going to reboot and see if everything shows up :) | 17:31 |
| tnorris | 12.04 has finally been mirrored in the US, but I still can't upgrade from 11.10. any ideas? | 17:37 |
| Unit193 | Do you have errors? Why do you think you can't update? | 17:39 |
| Unit193 | (I'm in Ohio and upgraded 3 systems random days ago) | 17:40 |
| tnorris | Unit193: don't know why. I run "sudo update" then "sudo do-release-upgrade" and it just says there's no new distro | 17:41 |
| Unit193 | Weird, is your sources.list messed up at all? | 17:42 |
| tnorris | Unit193: where do I find sources.list? | 17:43 |
| Myrtti | if it were 10.04 I'd know what the problem is... | 17:43 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, but could try that anyway. :P | 17:43 |
| Unit193 | /etc/apt/sources.list | 17:43 |
| tnorris | Myrtti: might as well give it a shot | 17:43 |
| tnorris | Unit193: thanks. just took a peek. looks like it's never been touched | 17:44 |
| Unit193 | sudo do-rel<tab> -d | 17:45 |
| tnorris | output> "Checking for a new ubuntu release No new release found" | 17:46 |
| Unit193 | Myrtti: We permitted to go debian style? ;) | 17:46 |
| baizon | tnorris: or run "update-manager -d" | 17:46 |
| tnorris | baizon: nope. still doesn't think there's an update | 17:49 |
| baizon | you dont get a button with 12.04? | 17:50 |
| tnorris | Myrtti: what was that problem you were talking about? | 17:51 |
| Unit193 | Just to make sure, you are connected to the internet and it's all working? No blocks on ubuntu.com? | 17:51 |
| tnorris | baizon: nope. | 17:51 |
| Myrtti | tnorris: if you were on Lucid, 10.04 LTS, the update wouldn't show up until the first .1 update to 12.04 is available | 17:51 |
| Myrtti | you'd have to try it with the -d flag on the command, then it would show | 17:52 |
| tnorris | Unit193: yeah. it's the box i'm typing on now. and no blocks are in place. | 17:52 |
| Myrtti | but since you've already tried it, and you're not on Lucid, then it's not that either | 17:52 |
| tnorris | Myrtti: -d doesn't work. already tried it. | 17:52 |
| tnorris | ok, yeah | 17:52 |
| tnorris | is there a way I can get more verbose output so I can see what's going on? | 17:53 |
| yell0w | which version are you on ? | 17:53 |
| Unit193 | tnorris: Well, would you mind pastebining your sources? Also check lsb_release -a | 17:54 |
| tnorris | and i'm back (just installed latest kernel and had to rebuild my nvidia drivers) | 18:06 |
| tnorris | so, is there a way to check for a new dist. verbosely? so I can see where it's checking. | 18:07 |
| Unit193 | do-rele<TAB> --help didn't say much. | 18:07 |
| tnorris | Unit193: nope. no verbose output or anything | 18:08 |
| tnorris | Unit193: do-release-upgrade is actually just a py script that uses update-manager to check for the updates. | 18:10 |
| Unit193 | Yep, it's not much. I'd asked if I could look at your sources.list, but not sure I could do much. | 18:11 |
| Belserusk | I have a laptop with 2 approx. 35GB HDDs and want to install Xubuntu 12.04 -- at the install screen it hangs after I select to unmount the drive after the Question. What do I do now? | 18:14 |
| Belserusk | The laptop is a Acer TravelMate 4220. | 18:14 |
| tnorris | Unit193: wow, i'm a dumbass. in the update-manager menu, it was set to never show updates to new distributions... | 18:16 |
| Myrtti | ... LOL :-D | 18:16 |
| Belserusk | I have a Acer TravelMate 4220 laptop with 2 35GB HDDs and want to install Xubuntu 12.04 -- at the install screen it hangs after I select to unmount the drive in response to the Question. What do I do now? | 18:17 |
| Unit193 | Wow, and it won't tell you about it if you *manually* check? Crappy... | 18:17 |
| tnorris | Unit193: i know, right? I thought that's the way it worked so I disabled automatically notifying me because I manually update all the time. | 18:18 |
| tnorris | Belserusk: what is " the Question"? | 18:18 |
| knome | tnorris, "will you marry me?" | 18:19 |
| knome | though the installer shouldn't ask that.. | 18:19 |
| Belserusk | tnorris, you know the one where it says such a drive is in use... | 18:20 |
| Belserusk | tnorris, perhaps it cannot unmount the 2 HDD's | 18:20 |
| tnorris | Belserusk: why do you need to unmount them? | 18:21 |
| tnorris | knome: choosing a distro can sometimes feel like a life time commitment though. | 18:21 |
| Belserusk | tnorris, Because it says I cannot change partitions unless it is unmounted. | 18:23 |
| tnorris | Belserusk: after you using the normal live cd, or the alternate installer? | 18:25 |
| Belserusk | tnorris, norm | 18:25 |
| tnorris | are you trying to do anything with the hdd's before you install? | 18:26 |
| starn | is there any major changes in 12.04?? like as long as there is no huge change like unity for ubuntu i am happy. | 18:26 |
| tnorris | starn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu | 18:27 |
| starn | thanks tnorris the upgrade text only had links for ubuntu.. | 18:27 |
| tnorris | starn: yeah, the link is buried in a text wall. | 18:28 |
| Belserusk | tnorris, no | 18:28 |
| starn | hmm the line "lots of appearance imrpovements scare me a little.. guess i'll ghosts the hard drive onto my backup drive and update...... for everything else sounds fine to me. | 18:29 |
| tnorris | Belserusk: can you try physically removing the hdd you don't want to install to? | 18:29 |
| tnorris | starn: don't think you have to worry. check the screenshots of 12.04 on xubuntu.org. | 18:30 |
| knome | starn, improvements, not huge changes | 18:31 |
| starn | tnorris: ah didn't think to do that.. guess i should sleep while it updates haha. | 18:31 |
| tnorris | sleep is good. unwanted, but necessary. | 18:31 |
| starn | true.. well i don't see any updates to anything that will drive me insane. so i'll talk to you guys later when my brain has a lil rem.. | 18:32 |
| Belserusk | Hi. Can someone help me with this? | 18:55 |
| Belserusk | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11895695#post11895695 | 18:55 |
| holstein | Belserusk: i would try the alternate installer http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/12.04/release/xubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso | 18:58 |
| holstein | or however you get there from http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ | 18:58 |
| GridCube | Belserusk, is sdb the second disk or is the usbdrive? | 18:59 |
| Belserusk | Hi holstein. Ok. Would me using a USB drive Live session rather than a Live CD make a difference? | 18:59 |
| holstein | Belserusk: AFAIK, that works fine now | 19:00 |
| holstein | GridCube will have some helful suggestions though :) | 19:00 |
| Belserusk | Hi GridCube. My USB pen is /dev/sdb1 | 19:01 |
| GridCube | ok so sdb is mounted because you are running your system from it | 19:01 |
| GridCube | if you try to install over the medium you are using to install it will fail | 19:01 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, Is SDA2 mounted? What does the * signify? | 19:03 |
| GridCube | !imagebin | Belserusk | 19:05 |
| ubottu | Belserusk: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. | 19:05 |
| GridCube | please send me an screenshot Belserusk | 19:05 |
| GridCube | also on a terminal write this >sudo fdisk -l | 19:06 |
| GridCube | and pastebin the output | 19:06 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, http://imagebin.org/210531 | 19:07 |
| GridCube | Belserusk, yes, that doesnt help much :P | 19:07 |
| Belserusk | http://imagebin.org/210532 | 19:08 |
| GridCube | Belserusk, the asterisk means that partition is a booteable one | 19:09 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, I see. | 19:09 |
| GridCube | Belserusk, i gather that your sdb is a 16gb pendrive | 19:10 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, Yes. | 19:10 |
| GridCube | and you are trying to install xubuntu there? | 19:10 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, No, I want to install Xub onto one of the 2 HDDs. | 19:11 |
| Belserusk | My 16GB pen drive contains the Xub live ISO. | 19:12 |
| GridCube | ok, let me see your install setup, no the error, the underit screen | 19:12 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, ? | 19:13 |
| GridCube | yes | 19:14 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, Please explain | 19:14 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, If I used a CD instead -- perhaps there will be no problem? | 19:14 |
| GridCube | there is a stage where the installer asks you where do you want to install | 19:14 |
| GridCube | Belserusk, its the same | 19:14 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, No. I don't get to that part. It hangs before that. | 19:14 |
| GridCube | ooooo | 19:15 |
| GridCube | thats wrong | 19:15 |
| GridCube | it should not matter if you have mounted sdb | 19:15 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, Its a pity because the live session is zippy and everything else seems fine. | 19:15 |
| GridCube | Belserusk, care to retry using another usb port? | 19:15 |
| GridCube | Belserusk, please send me another image, please on a terminal write: df | 19:17 |
| GridCube | and paste the output | 19:17 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, funny enough I was thinking that..._^^ | 19:17 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, will do. I must turn the laptop back on. Back soon... | 19:18 |
| GridCube | oh :P | 19:18 |
| GridCube | yeah | 19:18 |
| GridCube | nevermind then, it was to know where sdb was being mounted | 19:18 |
| GridCube | because if it was to /target then it would explain some things | 19:19 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, what is "/target" ? | 19:19 |
| GOMF | hello | 19:20 |
| GridCube | /target is where the installer cd mounts the "target" destiny of partitions, say you give sda3 to /home, the live cd would mount them on /target/home | 19:20 |
| Unit193 | Howdy. | 19:20 |
| GridCube | sup GOMF | 19:20 |
| GridCube | :) | 19:20 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, I understand. | 19:21 |
| GOMF | not much, i have a question about xubuntu (specifically thunar/catfish) | 19:21 |
| GridCube | ask away | 19:21 |
| GOMF | i would like to search files in a folder and copy/cut and paste the found files to another folder | 19:22 |
| GOMF | how would i do this? | 19:22 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, changing the USB port did not make a difference. | 19:22 |
| GridCube | Belserusk, when does this screen pops up? | 19:23 |
| GridCube | after what stage? | 19:23 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, Which screen - the "unknown partitions... one? | 19:24 |
| SATop | hello | 19:24 |
| Belserusk | http://imagebin.org/210532 | 19:24 |
| GOMF | i hoped that i could select all the files in catfish and press cut but there is no option for that | 19:25 |
| GridCube | no Belserusk in the installer | 19:25 |
| GridCube | what stage, you first set the language, then | 19:25 |
| GridCube | when does it fails? | 19:25 |
| GridCube | GOMF, sadly, thats not possible :( | 19:26 |
| Belserusk | 3rd | 19:26 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, 3rd stage. | 19:26 |
| GridCube | i never understood the usefulness of catfish, it just search for stuff and thats it | 19:26 |
| Unit193 | GridCube: Can't you do that in find with -exec? | 19:26 |
| GridCube | GOMF, i always end up find with -exec | 19:26 |
| GridCube | s/end up/end up using/ | 19:27 |
| GridCube | Belserusk, thats the one when you choose disks? | 19:27 |
| GOMF | GridCube, ok, thanks for the help | 19:27 |
| GridCube | ok | 19:27 |
| GridCube | sorry GOMF :( | 19:27 |
| GOMF | GridCube, no problem, it's not your fault ;) | 19:28 |
| GridCube | :) | 19:28 |
| GridCube | GOMF, using find with exec is rather easy, do you want some guidance? | 19:28 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, don't get that far. I just tried Lubuntu live session -- same problem. | 19:29 |
| GOMF | GridCube, i'll figure it out, i just couldn't find anything on google concerning thunar/catfish that's why i came here | 19:29 |
| GridCube | mmmhm | 19:31 |
| GridCube | Belserusk, try an alternate installer | 19:31 |
| GridCube | or as last resource try a real cd | 19:31 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, I will try live cd first. Cheers. | 19:32 |
| GridCube | and remove the pendrive, that should make all sdb warnings irrelevant because there will be none :P | 19:32 |
| Belserusk | GridCube, thanks for your help. Cheers. | 19:32 |
| GridCube | good luck | 19:32 |
| Belserusk | Bye GridCube . | 19:32 |
| SATop | how to run programs wich require root in a normal user login as another user with admin rights ? | 19:37 |
| GridCube | sudo | 19:37 |
| GridCube | !sudo | SATop | 19:37 |
| ubottu | SATop: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo | 19:37 |
| GridCube | !gksu | SATop | 19:38 |
| ubottu | SATop: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) | 19:38 |
| SATop | sudo wont work because the user is not in the admin group | 19:38 |
| GridCube | add it | 19:38 |
| SATop | i dont want to add it | 19:39 |
| GridCube | well, log in to a terminal as a sudoer user | 19:39 |
| SATop | i want to do admin taks in a normal user login as another userwith admin rights | 19:39 |
| Unit193 | su admin-user | 19:40 |
| GridCube | SATop, something like "sudo su root" | 19:40 |
| SATop | unit i try that | 19:41 |
| Pici | 'sudo -i' | 19:41 |
| Unit193 | Pici: The current user doesn't have admin, and doesn't want to add it. | 19:42 |
| Pici | Unit193: er, I was correcting GridCube. Selecting reading :/ | 19:43 |
| Unit193 | Yep, had that. | 19:43 |
| SATop | unit your method works | 19:44 |
| Unit193 | Great, glad that gets it. | 19:44 |
| SATop | unit i had another method "pkexec sudo -s" | 19:48 |
| dpyro | hi, I have a xubuntu guest VM in VMWare that just ran out of space, it was 9GB ext4 mounted for / and 1GB of swap | 19:49 |
| dpyro | i shutdown the VM, added 1GB in disk space to the VMware disk, and booted back up | 19:49 |
| dpyro | and fired up gparted | 19:50 |
| dpyro | right now i have the same 9GB ext4 / partition, then 1GB unallocated, then 1GB swap | 19:50 |
| dpyro | i can succesfully disable the swap partition online and move it around | 19:50 |
| dpyro | can i extend the 9GB ext4 / partition online to also use the unallocated space (which is on the right)? | 19:51 |
| dpyro | i know you can extend ext4 online, but i don't know how to do it with a partition itself :S | 19:51 |
| dpyro | thanks for any help in advance | 19:51 |
| dpyro | :) | 19:51 |
| GridCube | mmm | 19:53 |
| GridCube | dpyro, how important is your data there? | 19:54 |
| GridCube | moving partition and resizing them can be a tricky work | 19:54 |
| GridCube | to start with, you need to umount the disk you are wanting to resize, so you need to be using something like a live-cd to do that, you can use gparted live (http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php) then you resize and move to your pleasure | 19:55 |
| dpyro | hmm | 19:55 |
| dpyro | well ideally i just want to do this quickly and get a dedicated disk for the VM later on when I have $/time | 19:56 |
| dpyro | my other option i guess is to try and trim down the xubuntu os itself | 19:56 |
| GridCube | dpyro, think that /etc/fstab uses UUID to work, so if you resize your disks the UUID for them would change, edit your fstab before starting and give them static locations, like /dev/sda1 because else you wont be able to boot again | 19:57 |
| GridCube | also if grub points to UUID you will find the same problem | 19:57 |
| dpyro | does it UUID the disk itself or its partitions? | 19:57 |
| GridCube | partitions | 19:58 |
| dpyro | oh my | 19:58 |
| dpyro | i guess size is included in that hash | 19:58 |
| dpyro | or endpoint | 19:58 |
| GridCube | i pretty much guess so, im never sure of how those things work | 19:58 |
| dpyro | is there a way to list installed packages and their sizes? | 20:00 |
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| GridCube | i don't know about the sizes but in synaptic you can sort all the installed software | 20:01 |
| hydester | dpyro: if you usv LVM then you can extend partitions online | 20:01 |
| hydester | you extend the lv partition then extend the underlying ext4 | 20:02 |
| dpyro | i'm not using LVM :( | 20:02 |
| dpyro | i didn't think xubuntu would grow to use 9GB | 20:02 |
| dpyro | what's the size of base xubuntu and the UI? | 20:03 |
| GridCube | :P it can | 20:03 |
| dpyro | erm DE | 20:03 |
| GridCube | !info xfwm4 | 20:03 |
| ubottu | xfwm4 (source: xfwm4): window manager of the Xfce project. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.8.3-1ubuntu1 (precise), package size 1135 kB, installed size 3992 kB | 20:03 |
| GridCube | not that big | 20:03 |
| dpyro | 4GB for the DE | 20:04 |
| hydester | perhaps upgrade (or whatever you'd consider it) to btrfs and use compression | 20:04 |
| hydester | i'm have not personally embraced btrfs yet, but just an idea | 20:04 |
| dpyro | hmm | 20:04 |
| dpyro | well i'm shooting for any hackish idea that frees up 500MB-1GB | 20:04 |
| dpyro | otherwise it would be more time efficient to just reinstall | 20:05 |
| dpyro | as its a VM | 20:05 |
| hydester | a VM? so you have more space, just not in the VM? | 20:05 |
| dpyro | i mostly use it for programming in python3/numpy/scipy | 20:05 |
| dpyro | no, the space is IN the vm | 20:05 |
| dpyro | i allocated more diskspace from vmware | 20:06 |
| dpyro | its just unallocated | 20:06 |
| hydester | i'd guess there is a vmware way to do it. just create a new vmdk or whatever it is called and copy it there | 20:07 |
| hydester | then extend ext4 | 20:07 |
| dpyro | vmdk = vm disk image? | 20:07 |
| hydester | i use virtualbox, here is info on how to do it with that - http://www.collage6.com/2011/01/06/resize-and-expand-a-virtualbox-hard-drive-and-media-made-easy/ | 20:08 |
| dpyro | well i can't just extend ext4 without extending the partition first | 20:08 |
| hydester | should be similar process with vmware | 20:08 |
| hydester | basically migrating the partition to a new virtual disk | 20:08 |
| dpyro | is virtual box OSS? | 20:08 |
| hydester | gray area. there is an OS version and a non-OS free version | 20:09 |
| hydester | more open than vmware | 20:09 |
| dpyro | i'd imagine, vmware is completely closed | 20:10 |
| dpyro | i think the problem is i have vmware player | 20:10 |
| hydester | i mean more free than vmware | 20:11 |
| hydester | ;) | 20:11 |
| dpyro | vmware workstation has tools to help you resize linux partitions without running the VM | 20:11 |
| dpyro | heh | 20:11 |
| hydester | vbox is very good. but some advanced features are command line only. but mostly it just works and has seamless mode too, which i think vmware copied from them | 20:12 |
| dpyro | is there a way to list all installed packages? i'm thinking apt-cache can do it | 20:13 |
| dpyro | aye | 20:13 |
| dpyro | my only requirement is host/guest integration | 20:13 |
| dpyro | i couldn't get file transfer integration working on this vmware player anyway, but just copy/paste is invaluable | 20:13 |
| GridCube | dpyro, you can run vmware disks with vboxOSE | 20:14 |
| dpyro | otherwise i get along with dropbox but that's an unnecessary duplication of space | 20:14 |
| dpyro | vbox-ose? | 20:14 |
| GridCube | virtualbox-ose, its the manager for vboxes | 20:15 |
| rolesp | a good two pane file manager for xubuntu? | 20:22 |
| koegs | spacefm | 20:33 |
| GridCube | mc | 20:35 |
| GridCube | :P | 20:35 |
| knome | guys... | 20:36 |
| GridCube | yes | 20:38 |
| koegs | http://sourceforge.net/projects/spacefm/files/ | 20:39 |
| knome | koegs, suggesting things that aren't in the repositories is generally not useful | 20:40 |
| knome | besides, it is alpha | 20:41 |
| GridCube | rolesp, if graphical is more your cup of tea, then emelFM2 | 20:43 |
| GridCube | !info emelFM2 | 20:43 |
| ubottu | emelfm2 (source: emelfm2): file manager for X/gtk. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 692 kB, installed size 1671 kB | 20:43 |
| GridCube | its not "pretty" but does the work | 20:43 |
| GridCube | :P i like to use mc in any case, it feels more hackerly | 20:44 |
| GridCube | and you can use it when your computer wont go into graphical mode and still feel safe if youhave to delete or move some files, not having to remember and probably typo something that you might regret | 20:45 |
| knome | nah | 20:45 |
| knome | better to take backups | 20:45 |
| knome | even better is not to make mistakes | 20:45 |
| hydester | if you pipe a lot then i'm guessing mc would be very limiting | 20:46 |
| GridCube | yes | 20:46 |
| rolesp | I think mc is good, it was my favorite in dos, until norton commander was born | 20:46 |
| GridCube | rolesp, being that mc born out of nc, i dont see how thats possible | 20:47 |
| knome | ...offtopic? | 20:47 |
| Unit193 | Netcat? | 20:47 |
| hydester | i think he just said it backwards | 20:47 |
| hydester | nothing beats a find | xargs sequence... :) | 20:48 |
| SATop | not in the repo's but there is a ppa http://code.google.com/p/sunflower-fm/ | 20:49 |
| rolesp | gridcube after dos norton commander come a windows version | 20:49 |
| knome | ... #xubuntu-offtopic | 20:49 |
| rolesp | very similar to total commander | 20:50 |
| GridCube | yes we shoul take this to ot | 20:51 |
| rolesp | apears that double commander is not in the repositories | 20:51 |
| knome | rolesp, #xubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue that discussion. | 20:52 |
| rolesp | bbl | 21:57 |
| manitou | hi is im trying to set my brightness to 75% when i boot ! is it anyone can point me in some directions how ? its acer aspire S3 (must in boot acpi_backlight=vendor so i can regulate it manual ) | 22:15 |
| ThePendulum | I am definitely going to be around more often | 22:17 |
| GridCube | manitou, try this http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/10/how-to-adjust-monitor-brightness-from.html | 22:20 |
| ThePendulum | This really, really, really amazing person transacted a decent amount of money to my PayPal account for helping him out. I don't know if that person is in this channel, but if you are, may I thank you a lot. It really wasn't nessecary! | 22:20 |
| manitou | he nice ThePendulum | 22:20 |
| ThePendulum | If only I remembered his nickname | 22:21 |
| manitou | GridCube: not working :( | 22:23 |
| GridCube | :( | 22:23 |
| ThePendulum | manitou: I just came in, what's the issue? | 22:24 |
| ThePendulum | (Don't worry, I still do free support) | 22:24 |
| manitou | m trying to set my brightness to 75% when i boot ! is it anyone can point me in some directions how ? its acer aspire S3 (must in boot acpi_backlight=vendor so i can regulate it manual ) | 22:24 |
| manitou | hehehe | 22:24 |
| ThePendulum | hmm | 22:24 |
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| ThePendulum | I haven't been able to set the display brightness on this Asus laptop at all | 22:25 |
| ThePendulum | Interesting matter | 22:25 |
| GridCube | i used a thing the other day that worked, but was on my laptop and now i cant remember | 22:25 |
| GridCube | XD | 22:25 |
| manitou | tru parametar in grub acpi_backlight=vendor | 22:25 |
| * GridCube is not being very useful | 22:26 | |
| ThePendulum | All I can think of, is wearing stylish Ray-Bans after boot | 22:26 |
| manitou | ThePendulum: yea | 22:26 |
| * ThePendulum isn't as supportive as I was yesterday either | 22:26 | |
| manitou | :) | 22:26 |
| GridCube | manishe, http://www.ubuntuka.com/ubuntu-command-line-tricks-set-1/ | 22:26 |
| GridCube | maybe? | 22:27 |
| ThePendulum | I'm in a hotel, and we planned to stay until Friday. However, it's so boring that we will probably go home tomorrow | 22:27 |
| GridCube | but i dont have a /proc/acpi/video :P | 22:27 |
| GridCube | so you might need to create them= | 22:27 |
| GridCube | dunno | 22:27 |
| manitou | i will try GridCube | 22:27 |
| GridCube | found it :D | 22:30 |
| GridCube | its xgamma -gamma 0.75 | 22:30 |
| GridCube | :P | 22:30 |
| GridCube | that should set your brightness to 75% | 22:30 |
| pyge | when will be the update to kernel 3.3? i heard it will improve my battery and temperature... | 22:31 |
| GridCube | ofcourse thats a command you need to run from x, so you can add it to your start applications | 22:31 |
| manitou | and what is default gamma ? | 22:34 |
| manitou | i is it 1 | 22:34 |
| GridCube | yes its 1 | 22:35 |
| manitou | ok i try to play with it :) | 22:35 |
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| manitou | and i have problems with Atheros AR9485 disconect from ap , and cannot restart device ? i tryed nohwcrypt=1 no help :( | 22:46 |
| manitou | i just change atheros with intel 5100 and using wicd and works | 22:47 |
| Barridus | how can i get rid of the keyring prompts? (i think it's gnome keyring but i'm not sure) | 23:08 |
| GridCube | yes | 23:09 |
| GridCube | its the gnome keyring | 23:09 |
| GridCube | when do you get it? | 23:09 |
| Barridus | hmm, i think only when i save a password or use a saved password in chromium-browser | 23:10 |
| GridCube | you autologin? | 23:11 |
| GridCube | or you type your password to log in? | 23:11 |
| GridCube | if you type your password then you can simply delete the contents on ~/.gnome2/keyrings/ and it should start working as it should again | 23:12 |
| Barridus | yeah i log in with password | 23:15 |
| Barridus | and i deleted the whole keyring folder yesterday, i just got the prompt a few mins before i asked today | 23:15 |
| GridCube | barridus then it should be the last time | 23:16 |
| Barridus | hmmm | 23:16 |
| Barridus | so i don't need to keep re-deleting it? | 23:16 |
| GridCube | no | 23:17 |
| GridCube | it should just ask you once | 23:17 |
| manitou | how i can control how long timeout disable touchpad while typing ? its about 3 sec its too long ! 1 will be fine | 23:17 |
| GridCube | !synaptics | manitou | 23:18 |
| ubottu | manitou: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad | 23:18 |
| GridCube | manitou, http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-disable-the-touchpad-while-you-are-typing/ | 23:20 |
| manitou | GridCube: syndaemon is it ! thx | 23:21 |
| GridCube | :D | 23:21 |
| dwangoAC | Greetings! I'm working with Xubuntu 12.04 trying to use OSS4 and I've encountered https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oss4/+bug/969733; there's a patch but I am unsure where to start looking as to how to use it. Any pointers? | 23:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 969733 in oss4 (Ubuntu) "oss4-dkms 4.2-build2005-2ubuntu1: oss4 kernel module failed to build (cp: cannot stat `/lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic/source/include/linux/limits.h': No such file or directory)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 23:23 |
| dwangoAC | Thanks, ubottu! | 23:23 |
| dwangoAC | Long and the short of it, there's a patch at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oss4/+bug/969733/+attachment/3085110/+files/dkmspatch.txt but I do not know if I need to grab the raw source of oss4-dkms and apply it then build from scratch or what... | 23:23 |
| dwangoAC | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide/BuildFromDebdiff looks like it might be the right answer, trying now | 23:29 |
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| Barridus | GridCube, sorry late reply. ok then let's hope it's gone for good XD | 23:40 |
| Barridus | thanks for the response | 23:41 |
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