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jussinixternal: fwiw, I get the same issue05:34
nixternalre amarok?05:35
jussiyeah05:36
jussiRiddell: so who is making the shortlist? 07:00
jussiDarkwing: ^^^07:01
Riddelljussi: it's on my todo list for this morning unless you're volunteering07:04
jussiRiddell: I can make a shortlist, but what is the criteria? only those that fulfill all the requirements? 07:05
jussior do we cull other things+07:07
jussi?07:07
* Riddell nudges jussi at his /msg07:09
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Mamarokjussi, nixternal: please check with the packager of Amarok, there must be an error somewhere09:24
yofel_Mamarok: amarok is built with liblastfm enabled though, I'll see if I can reproduce that09:32
Mamarokyofel_: thanks. Tha error shouldn't happen, and I don't see how it could09:34
yofel_okaaaay... reproduced09:37
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Riddellyofel_: I fear I won't be much help with 4.8.3, I'm feeling overloaded currently and need to concentrate on UDS and name et al10:22
yofel_sure, I have a cold myself, but feeling better now so I'll continue with it today I think.10:24
yofel_Mamarok: I fear I can't quite figure out how to use last.fm, never used it before. That the plugin search you get is the gstreamer codec search isn't making things clearer either. Maybe try the VLC backend for phonon (phonon-backend-vlc) so we know if this really has something to do with gstreamer (nixternal: can you try that too if you have time?)10:30
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RiddellI thought lastfm player didn't use gstreamer?10:31
Riddellyeah it just depends on libmad directly and talks to alsa or oss10:32
Riddelllast fm through amarok I guess would send an mp3 stream to amarok which uses gstreamer10:33
Mamarokyofel_: I don't have that problem, it is jussi and nixternal who have that10:41
yofel_well, I got it too, but can't reproduce it now. Maybe it happens only once?10:41
Riddellafiestas: nudge nudge, if you want sessions at UDS they need to be registered now, we also need to give the unity guys some warning to prepare their thoughts10:42
afiestasRiddell: okz, can I have 15min more?10:44
Riddellsure10:47
afiestasRiddell:  I'm really interested on discuss about release date10:57
afiestasbut you told me that topic was already covered10:57
afiestas(still interested in knowing your thoughts but I can do that while having dinner xD)10:57
Riddellafiestas: when KDE moved to a 6 monthly release we had a discussion about moving kubuntu to match that10:58
Riddellwe decided against it since moving closer to the KDE SC release would mean less stable software and a lot of extra burden to be out of sync with ubuntu 10:58
afiestasI don't want to match that10:59
afiestashaving Kubuntu releasing .3 is nice10:59
afiestasexactly10:59
afiestaswhat I want to do is actually delay the release 10:59
afiestasUbuntu release is Unity Ubnutu big day, we won't spoil taht10:59
afiestasno matter how much we grow, it is Ubuntu's day to shine, not ours10:59
afiestasI know we can release earlier, so then 2 weeks after or so should be ok11:00
afiestasmedia is sooooo hungry of news that with 2 weeks should be more than enough11:00
Riddellafiestas: trouble with that is 2 weeks after is UDS11:01
Riddelland we'll get people going "oh why isn't kubuntu out yet you're just slow"11:02
Riddellbut really can't release during UDS, and UDS is very important to the whole ubuntu process which we want to be part of11:02
ScottKafiestas: Since we get the point releases in even after we release, I don't think waiting for a particular point release is needed.11:30
afiestasScottK: mmm indeed11:32
shadeslayeroh yay, I'm hit by bug 34049512:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 340495 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "[cowbuilder-dist] fails if /home is on different partition than /var" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34049512:21
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BluesKajHiyas all12:58
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kactivities] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/changelog Rebuild for .pot generation13:40
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kactivities] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog control libkactivities-bin.install) * New upstream release - add activitymanager_plugin_globalshortcuts to libkactivities-bin.install14:04
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CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 214 * debian/ (6 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release - drop patches applied upstream: + Reduce-the-timeout-in-KItemListKeyboardSearchManager.patch + Fix-drag-drop-cursor-issue.patch + Revert-the-2.0-decision-to-always-use-KB-for-file-si.patch14:41
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shadeslayermmm .. symbols being removed :/14:53
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/467318/14:53
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ScottKshadeslayer: from the git log:15:14
ScottK    Backport of all the ResourceWatcher changes from nepomuk-core.15:14
ScottK    15:14
ScottK    The two repositories diverged too much for me to easily backport15:14
ScottK    commit by commit.15:14
ScottKProbably worth talking to Sebastian Trueg about.15:15
shadeslayerYep, I know15:24
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 34 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release15:25
shadeslayerScottK: I'll use X-Debian-ABI for now15:28
ScottKDoes anything build-depend on kde-runtime and do we care?15:28
ScottKBinary new in an SRU will be a tough sell.15:29
shadeslayerlibnepomukdatamanagement4 and plasma-active15:29
shadeslayerwell ..... the first one doesn't count15:29
shadeslayerI guess we can let it slide?15:30
shadeslayerprojects.kde.org looks fugly15:31
shadeslayeruh well ...15:33
shadeslayerthe slot now accepts a QVariantList instead of a QDBusVariant15:33
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CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Philip Muškovac * 34 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release15:41
ScottKDoes anything else use it?15:41
shadeslayerScottK: my main concern is Plasma Active, but since we're going to rebuild that stuff anyway, I can let it slide15:42
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 106 * debian/changelog Rebuild for .pot generation15:43
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/467342/15:43
ScottKOK.  Make sure you set a high enough build dep15:43
shadeslayerwill do15:43
shadeslayerI've also emailed upstream15:46
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* BluesKaj wonders when virtuoso bug will be seriously examined . It uses up large amounts of cpu while doing nothing "waiting fro something to happen"17:18
Peace-BluesKaj: i would remove kmix instead17:18
Peace-for veromix17:18
Peace-just crash :)17:18
BluesKajkmix isn't a problem here17:18
Peace-it just crashes17:18
Peace-changed a few stuff on volume 17:19
Peace-and => crash17:19
EagleScreenyes, it has crahed for me 17:20
EagleScreenI think it crashed when I muted it17:20
Peace-it's a known bug17:21
BluesKajPeace-, how are kmix and virtuoso linked?17:24
Peace-BluesKaj: there is not a link17:41
Peace-BluesKaj: the sentence was i would remove kmix for veromix 17:42
BluesKaj, errands ...BBL17:42
Peace-BluesKaj: bye17:43
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CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 107 * debian/ (changelog control kdepim-runtime.install) * New upstream release - update kdepim-runtime.install (libnepomukdatamanagement-copy was renamed to kdepim-runtime-dms-copy)18:11
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 35 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release18:27
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libksane] Philip Muškovac * 27 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release18:31
ScottKRiddell: You should probably make sure we have the "Python 3 only on the 12.10 desktop CD ( Foundations )" session covered as it will impact Kubuntu when common things start going Python3.18:32
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 32 * debian/changelog Rebuild for .pot generation18:33
ScottKProbably "Qt 5 ( Other )" too.  Sneaky of them not to invite you.18:34
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 33 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release18:43
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 636 * debian/ (changelog control) * Add missing epoch in breaks/replaces of libkwinnvidiahack4 * Rebuild for .pot generation18:47
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 637 * debian/ (9 files in 2 dirs) add missing files18:50
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 638 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release - Add kubuntu_fix_gleffects.diff so opengl effects are installed.20:42
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 639 * debian/changelog reword the last changelog entry20:45
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeadmin] Philip Muškovac * 149 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release20:52
bulldog98Riddell: what’s about updateing owncloud in repro to 3.0.3?20:52
CIA-42[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kanagram] Jonathan Kolberg * 25 * debian/ (changelog control) * New upstream release - add libssl-dev to build-dep - bump Standards-Version to 3.9.3 (no change)20:54
nixternali wish i could punch synaptiks in the face21:02
* ScottK holds synaptiks up by the collar for nixternal.21:04
maconixternal is back?21:04
nixternalyeah buddy!21:05
nixternalbut not to work on kubuntu, i want to work on something else :)21:06
BluesKajthat's why I always used a mouse with my laptop21:08
nixternalBluesKaj: i am too, and synaptiks is supposed to shut off when I do that. it does for the most part, but out of the blue my trackpad will just enable itself and i am typing everywhere21:09
nixternalthank god it doesn't matter in vim21:09
ScottKWhat do you want to work on?21:09
nixternalScottK: you don't get the inside joke with that one? that 'not work on kubuntu...something else' is an inside joke. you know :)21:10
ScottKAh.  Got it.21:11
ScottKThe dog came in the bedroom and pooped on the floor at 6:30AM and it's been that kind of day.21:11
nixternaloh this live-build is killing me21:11
ScottK(old dog - he was trying to make it to the dog door and couldn't)21:12
nixternalonly at 6:30am? both my damn dogs do it whenever they feel like it21:12
nixternallive-build is kicking my ass. i can create iso's, but they aren't good for nothing. i need all of the isolinux and what not in there21:13
nixternaloh the humanity21:13
nixternalneed to take an iso break and work on my cloud project21:13
macoScottK: KC approves members and blueprints. also ~kubuntu-dev applicants? or is that a different team?22:14
Sputdoes any of the kubuntians know which packages the "capset" and "chkstat" are part of? these seem to be non-standard/debian specific things, as I can't find them for Gentoo22:14
Sputcapset I can only find a reference to as a syscall, and chkstat seems to be some SuSE thing...22:14
Sput(according to Google; since scripts running on my currently-not-reachable kubuntu box use those binaries, I assume kubuntu has them packaged somehow)22:15
macowhat version of kubuntu?22:20
macothere are no files named either those things in oneiric according to packages.ubuntu.com's file search22:21
Sputmaco: it's 11.10...22:44
Sputmaco: I'll have a look tomorrow when I'm at my work laptop again and see what's happening there22:44
Sputthx for now :)22:44
ScottKmaco: To be Kubuntu Dev you need to be a Kubuntu Member (approved by KC) and technically qualified (approved by kubuntu-dev).  Not all KC members are developers, so KC can't do both roles.22:56
macook22:56
macoso kubuntu dev does its own new member approvals22:56
ScottKYes22:56
ScottKTB/DMB/whoever was the right entity approved this.22:57
macothanks :)22:57
nixternalScottK: DMB approved it, pushed to TB who 2nd it :)  ahh, the good ol' days23:16
ScottKOK.23:16
* ScottK really forgets.23:16
* micahg is thankful that kubuntu devs usually don't break anything but their own packages23:51

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