[05:34] <jussi> nixternal: fwiw, I get the same issue
[05:35] <nixternal> re amarok?
[05:36] <jussi> yeah
[07:00] <jussi> Riddell: so who is making the shortlist? 
[07:01] <jussi> Darkwing: ^^^
[07:04] <Riddell> jussi: it's on my todo list for this morning unless you're volunteering
[07:05] <jussi> Riddell: I can make a shortlist, but what is the criteria? only those that fulfill all the requirements? 
[07:07] <jussi> or do we cull other things+
[07:07] <jussi> ?
[07:09]  * Riddell nudges jussi at his /msg
[09:24] <Mamarok> jussi, nixternal: please check with the packager of Amarok, there must be an error somewhere
[09:32] <yofel_> Mamarok: amarok is built with liblastfm enabled though, I'll see if I can reproduce that
[09:34] <Mamarok> yofel_: thanks. Tha error shouldn't happen, and I don't see how it could
[09:37] <yofel_> okaaaay... reproduced
[10:22] <Riddell> yofel_: I fear I won't be much help with 4.8.3, I'm feeling overloaded currently and need to concentrate on UDS and name et al
[10:24] <yofel_> sure, I have a cold myself, but feeling better now so I'll continue with it today I think.
[10:30] <yofel_> Mamarok: I fear I can't quite figure out how to use last.fm, never used it before. That the plugin search you get is the gstreamer codec search isn't making things clearer either. Maybe try the VLC backend for phonon (phonon-backend-vlc) so we know if this really has something to do with gstreamer (nixternal: can you try that too if you have time?)
[10:31] <Riddell> I thought lastfm player didn't use gstreamer?
[10:32] <Riddell> yeah it just depends on libmad directly and talks to alsa or oss
[10:33] <Riddell> last fm through amarok I guess would send an mp3 stream to amarok which uses gstreamer
[10:41] <Mamarok> yofel_: I don't have that problem, it is jussi and nixternal who have that
[10:41] <yofel_> well, I got it too, but can't reproduce it now. Maybe it happens only once?
[10:42] <Riddell> afiestas: nudge nudge, if you want sessions at UDS they need to be registered now, we also need to give the unity guys some warning to prepare their thoughts
[10:44] <afiestas> Riddell: okz, can I have 15min more?
[10:47] <Riddell> sure
[10:57] <afiestas> Riddell:  I'm really interested on discuss about release date
[10:57] <afiestas> but you told me that topic was already covered
[10:57] <afiestas> (still interested in knowing your thoughts but I can do that while having dinner xD)
[10:58] <Riddell> afiestas: when KDE moved to a 6 monthly release we had a discussion about moving kubuntu to match that
[10:58] <Riddell> we decided against it since moving closer to the KDE SC release would mean less stable software and a lot of extra burden to be out of sync with ubuntu 
[10:59] <afiestas> I don't want to match that
[10:59] <afiestas> having Kubuntu releasing .3 is nice
[10:59] <afiestas> exactly
[10:59] <afiestas> what I want to do is actually delay the release 
[10:59] <afiestas> Ubuntu release is Unity Ubnutu big day, we won't spoil taht
[10:59] <afiestas> no matter how much we grow, it is Ubuntu's day to shine, not ours
[11:00] <afiestas> I know we can release earlier, so then 2 weeks after or so should be ok
[11:00] <afiestas> media is sooooo hungry of news that with 2 weeks should be more than enough
[11:01] <Riddell> afiestas: trouble with that is 2 weeks after is UDS
[11:02] <Riddell> and we'll get people going "oh why isn't kubuntu out yet you're just slow"
[11:02] <Riddell> but really can't release during UDS, and UDS is very important to the whole ubuntu process which we want to be part of
[11:30] <ScottK> afiestas: Since we get the point releases in even after we release, I don't think waiting for a particular point release is needed.
[11:32] <afiestas> ScottK: mmm indeed
[12:21] <shadeslayer> oh yay, I'm hit by bug 340495
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:40] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kactivities] Philip Muškovac * 14 * debian/changelog Rebuild for .pot generation
[14:04] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kactivities] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog control libkactivities-bin.install) * New upstream release - add activitymanager_plugin_globalshortcuts to libkactivities-bin.install
[14:41] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 214 * debian/ (6 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release - drop patches applied upstream: + Reduce-the-timeout-in-KItemListKeyboardSearchManager.patch + Fix-drag-drop-cursor-issue.patch + Revert-the-2.0-decision-to-always-use-KB-for-file-si.patch
[14:53] <shadeslayer> mmm .. symbols being removed :/
[14:53] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/467318/
[15:14] <ScottK> shadeslayer: from the git log:
[15:14] <ScottK>     Backport of all the ResourceWatcher changes from nepomuk-core.
[15:14] <ScottK>     
[15:14] <ScottK>     The two repositories diverged too much for me to easily backport
[15:14] <ScottK>     commit by commit.
[15:15] <ScottK> Probably worth talking to Sebastian Trueg about.
[15:24] <shadeslayer> Yep, I know
[15:25] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 34 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[15:28] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I'll use X-Debian-ABI for now
[15:28] <ScottK> Does anything build-depend on kde-runtime and do we care?
[15:29] <ScottK> Binary new in an SRU will be a tough sell.
[15:29] <shadeslayer> libnepomukdatamanagement4 and plasma-active
[15:29] <shadeslayer> well ..... the first one doesn't count
[15:30] <shadeslayer> I guess we can let it slide?
[15:31] <shadeslayer> projects.kde.org looks fugly
[15:33] <shadeslayer> uh well ...
[15:33] <shadeslayer> the slot now accepts a QVariantList instead of a QDBusVariant
[15:41] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Philip Muškovac * 34 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[15:41] <ScottK> Does anything else use it?
[15:42] <shadeslayer> ScottK: my main concern is Plasma Active, but since we're going to rebuild that stuff anyway, I can let it slide
[15:43] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 106 * debian/changelog Rebuild for .pot generation
[15:43] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/467342/
[15:43] <ScottK> OK.  Make sure you set a high enough build dep
[15:43] <shadeslayer> will do
[15:46] <shadeslayer> I've also emailed upstream
[17:18]  * BluesKaj wonders when virtuoso bug will be seriously examined . It uses up large amounts of cpu while doing nothing "waiting fro something to happen"
[17:18] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i would remove kmix instead
[17:18] <Peace-> for veromix
[17:18] <Peace-> just crash :)
[17:18] <BluesKaj> kmix isn't a problem here
[17:18] <Peace-> it just crashes
[17:19] <Peace-> changed a few stuff on volume 
[17:19] <Peace-> and => crash
[17:20] <EagleScreen> yes, it has crahed for me 
[17:20] <EagleScreen> I think it crashed when I muted it
[17:21] <Peace-> it's a known bug
[17:24] <BluesKaj> Peace-, how are kmix and virtuoso linked?
[17:41] <Peace-> BluesKaj: there is not a link
[17:42] <Peace-> BluesKaj: the sentence was i would remove kmix for veromix 
[17:42] <BluesKaj> , errands ...BBL
[17:43] <Peace-> BluesKaj: bye
[18:11] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 107 * debian/ (changelog control kdepim-runtime.install) * New upstream release - update kdepim-runtime.install (libnepomukdatamanagement-copy was renamed to kdepim-runtime-dms-copy)
[18:27] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 35 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[18:31] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libksane] Philip Muškovac * 27 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[18:32] <ScottK> Riddell: You should probably make sure we have the "Python 3 only on the 12.10 desktop CD ( Foundations )" session covered as it will impact Kubuntu when common things start going Python3.
[18:33] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 32 * debian/changelog Rebuild for .pot generation
[18:34] <ScottK> Probably "Qt 5 ( Other )" too.  Sneaky of them not to invite you.
[18:43] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 33 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[18:47] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 636 * debian/ (changelog control) * Add missing epoch in breaks/replaces of libkwinnvidiahack4 * Rebuild for .pot generation
[18:50] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 637 * debian/ (9 files in 2 dirs) add missing files
[20:42] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 638 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) * New upstream release - Add kubuntu_fix_gleffects.diff so opengl effects are installed.
[20:45] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 639 * debian/changelog reword the last changelog entry
[20:52] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeadmin] Philip Muškovac * 149 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:52] <bulldog98> Riddell: what’s about updateing owncloud in repro to 3.0.3?
[20:54] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kanagram] Jonathan Kolberg * 25 * debian/ (changelog control) * New upstream release - add libssl-dev to build-dep - bump Standards-Version to 3.9.3 (no change)
[21:02] <nixternal> i wish i could punch synaptiks in the face
[21:04]  * ScottK holds synaptiks up by the collar for nixternal.
[21:04] <maco> nixternal is back?
[21:05] <nixternal> yeah buddy!
[21:06] <nixternal> but not to work on kubuntu, i want to work on something else :)
[21:08] <BluesKaj> that's why I always used a mouse with my laptop
[21:09] <nixternal> BluesKaj: i am too, and synaptiks is supposed to shut off when I do that. it does for the most part, but out of the blue my trackpad will just enable itself and i am typing everywhere
[21:09] <nixternal> thank god it doesn't matter in vim
[21:09] <ScottK> What do you want to work on?
[21:10] <nixternal> ScottK: you don't get the inside joke with that one? that 'not work on kubuntu...something else' is an inside joke. you know :)
[21:11] <ScottK> Ah.  Got it.
[21:11] <ScottK> The dog came in the bedroom and pooped on the floor at 6:30AM and it's been that kind of day.
[21:11] <nixternal> oh this live-build is killing me
[21:12] <ScottK> (old dog - he was trying to make it to the dog door and couldn't)
[21:12] <nixternal> only at 6:30am? both my damn dogs do it whenever they feel like it
[21:13] <nixternal> live-build is kicking my ass. i can create iso's, but they aren't good for nothing. i need all of the isolinux and what not in there
[21:13] <nixternal> oh the humanity
[21:13] <nixternal> need to take an iso break and work on my cloud project
[22:14] <maco> ScottK: KC approves members and blueprints. also ~kubuntu-dev applicants? or is that a different team?
[22:14] <Sput> does any of the kubuntians know which packages the "capset" and "chkstat" are part of? these seem to be non-standard/debian specific things, as I can't find them for Gentoo
[22:14] <Sput> capset I can only find a reference to as a syscall, and chkstat seems to be some SuSE thing...
[22:15] <Sput> (according to Google; since scripts running on my currently-not-reachable kubuntu box use those binaries, I assume kubuntu has them packaged somehow)
[22:20] <maco> what version of kubuntu?
[22:21] <maco> there are no files named either those things in oneiric according to packages.ubuntu.com's file search
[22:44] <Sput> maco: it's 11.10...
[22:44] <Sput> maco: I'll have a look tomorrow when I'm at my work laptop again and see what's happening there
[22:44] <Sput> thx for now :)
[22:56] <ScottK> maco: To be Kubuntu Dev you need to be a Kubuntu Member (approved by KC) and technically qualified (approved by kubuntu-dev).  Not all KC members are developers, so KC can't do both roles.
[22:56] <maco> ok
[22:56] <maco> so kubuntu dev does its own new member approvals
[22:56] <ScottK> Yes
[22:57] <ScottK> TB/DMB/whoever was the right entity approved this.
[22:57] <maco> thanks :)
[23:16] <nixternal> ScottK: DMB approved it, pushed to TB who 2nd it :)  ahh, the good ol' days
[23:16] <ScottK> OK.
[23:16]  * ScottK really forgets.
[23:51]  * micahg is thankful that kubuntu devs usually don't break anything but their own packages