[00:05] <user_____> alguem do rio de janeiro ai?
[00:13] <merlin1991> should I jump on the upgrade train and install 12.04 or wait still?
[00:16] <JMichaelX> merlin1991: i have upgraded 4 kubuntu machines to 12.04, and have experienced no noticeable problems.
[00:17] <merlin1991> hm I closed the upgrade window how can I force it? or do you suggest just editing sources.list and doing apt-get dist-upgrade?
[00:17] <DorkVader> after some package upgrades now, all window contents were upside down
[00:17] <DorkVader> http://i.imgur.com/qizjT.png
[00:18] <JMichaelX> merlin1991: i always just edit sources list, and dist-upgrade.... but i am not telling anyone else that is what they should do
[00:20] <merlin1991> JMichaelX: which kernel version comes with 12.04?
[00:36] <JMichaelX> merlin1991: 3.2.0-24
[00:36] <merlin1991> I wonder if the support for my nic is better there
[00:36] <merlin1991> so far I've been compiling the official realtek driveres for each kernel release on 11.10
[00:47] <merlin1991> bah the update brought a new theme
[00:47] <merlin1991> and I was so used to the old theme
[03:15] <sean_> sysinfo
[03:15] <sean_> System:    Host server Kernel 3.2.0-24-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Ubuntu 12.04 precise
[03:15] <sean_> CPU:       Dual core AMD Phenom II X2 560 (-MCP-) clocked at 3899.939 MHz
[03:15] <sean_> Graphics:  Card Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cedar PRO [Radeon HD 5450] X.Org 1.11.3 Res: 1680x1050@60.0hz
[03:15] <sean_>            GLX Renderer ATI Radeon HD 5450 GLX Version 4.2.11627 Compatibility Profile Context
[03:15] <sean_> Disks:     HDD Total Size: 1472.3GB (24.7% used)
[03:15] <sean_> Info:      Processes 255 Uptime 21:35 Memory 1455.0/7973.3MB Client Quassel [M] v0.8.0 (dist-5988f4c) inxi 1.4.15
[05:48] <robotdevil> you know what sucks with kubuntu?
[05:48] <robotdevil> how k3b slows even fairly fast systems to a crawl
[06:02] <amason> robotdevil: can't say that i have that problem
[06:02] <amason> and i've been burning CD's all morning long
[06:05] <robotdevil> seems since my last updates k3b is on the fritz
[06:05] <robotdevil> 4.74
[06:08] <amason> robotdevil: what is it actually doing ? I'm also using 12.04
[06:08] <amason> which might make a difference
[06:08] <robotdevil> and the system is a 8 gig 3.5 ghz quad core cpu. so there should be no lag
[06:08] <robotdevil> making coaster right now lol
[06:09] <robotdevil> just ruined a cdrw
[06:09] <robotdevil> also im not on 12.04
[06:09] <amason> i'm confused how you are getting lag with a quad core...at most it should use 1 CPU..it's not a multiproc app
[06:10] <amason> i am assuming you don't have anything crazy like a IDE disk as your root and an IDE burner on the same channel
[06:11] <robotdevil> when ever I try to blank a cd any gtk (firefox) is almost unresponsive and now k3b doesnt want to do mcuh
[06:11] <robotdevil> much*
[06:11] <robotdevil> oh well got nero anyway
[06:11] <amason> not sure sorry.
[06:14] <robotdevil> k3b has always caused a little lag afaicr
[06:14] <EldonG> hey...just did a reinstall of Kubuntu...how do I get my old files?
[06:14] <amason> can't say that i've experienced that personally.
[06:15] <amason> EldonG: reinstall ? as in, install over the top of an existing install
[06:15] <amason> EldonG: and did you previously have a seperate /home partition ?
[06:15] <EldonG> It didn't give me that option...
[06:16] <amason> ok, did you have a previous install of kubuntu ?
[06:16]  * szal hasn't had K3b slowing down systems for ages
[06:16] <EldonG> I was using the full drive
[06:17] <EldonG> yes, it was Kubuntu before.
[06:17] <szal> EldonG: lol, then your previous files are gone
[06:17] <amason> EldonG: did you choose to format the partition ?
[06:17] <EldonG> no
[06:18] <EldonG> it didn't give me an option, one way or the other...
[06:18] <szal> don't the automatic options format the partition(s) anyway? never used those, I prefer doing my own partitioning & going custom
[06:18] <EldonG> ...so I was thinking it wouldn't.
[06:20] <EldonG> Was I wrong?  Seriously?  When it didn't even give me the options?
[06:21] <EldonG> ...and...I have a 500 gig drive...that takes a little time to format, doesn't it?
[06:22] <amason> it does give you the option. I asks if you want to install along side the existing installation
[06:22] <amason> or delete the existing installation
[06:22] <amason> or manually configure the partitions
[06:22] <amason> i think by default it selects install along side
[06:23] <EldonG> Never did it come up as an option to delete.
[06:23] <amason> it doesn't say delete, it says replace or something
[06:23] <amason> i can't recall the wording
[06:23] <amason> do a sudo fdisk -lu /dev/sda  ( or whatever your device is )
[06:28] <amason> EldonG: if you pastebin the output of that we can see if you have other partitions
[06:29] <EldonG> pastebin?
[06:29] <amason> link is in the topic.
[06:30] <EldonG> ...at any rate, I left it the whole drive.
[06:34] <EldonG> pastebin # 467126
[07:43] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:38] <schneeweisschen> hallo jemand da?
[09:40] <JeroenDeDauw> I did an upgrade to 12.04 and now the (standard) volume control in the taskbar is gone - how do I get it (or something similar) back?
[09:44] <lordievader> JeroenDeDauw: Is kmix running?
[09:46] <JeroenDeDauw> lordievader: apparently not, started it now, and the thinghy re-appeared - thnx :)
[09:47] <lordievader> JeroenDeDauw: No problem, hope it will auto start in the future.
[09:48] <sk_> hi
[09:48] <sk_> Ubuntu is crashing after every 2nd firefox start, what can I do?
[09:48] <lordievader> sk_: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[09:48] <sk_> Kubuntu
[09:49] <sk_> thats why Im here :)
[09:49] <lordievader> sk_: does it give any error message?
[09:49] <sk_> just freezing
[09:49] <sk_> not even alt + sys + k helps
[09:50] <sk_> I've already solved the login-freeze problem where you needed to delete the file .XAuthority
[09:50] <lordievader> sk_: Try running it from a terminal/konsole perhaps that can give you a hint.
[09:51] <sk_> good idea
[09:53] <sk_> but logging into the sudo-user account also doesnt work
[09:54] <lordievader> sk_: That ain't a good idea, if you need to run FF as sudo use kdesu.
[09:55] <sk_> I mean logging into the account with sudo rights freezes while starting kde
[09:56] <sk_> by the way: it is exactly the 2nd start which crashes the system
[09:56] <lordievader> sk_: The terminal doesn't give any output?
[09:59] <sk_> nvfx_screen_get_param:95 -  Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
[10:00] <sk_> starting 2 times by console works
[10:01] <sk_> starting via k-menu killed the system. maybe because of the bouncing symbol
[10:01] <lordievader> sk_: You could remove the %u from the paramater in the k-menu
[10:01] <lordievader> Perhaps that fixes things...
[10:04] <sk_> where do I do that?
[10:06] <sk_> changing desktop effects freezes also
[10:06] <lordievader> sk_: Right-click on the menu -> Edit applications -> Find FF (under internet) --> remove %u
[10:07] <sk_> alt + sys-rq + k  actually restarts the x-server... shouldnt press it 2 times
[10:07] <sk_> :)
[10:08] <sk_> nope  removing %u doesnt help
[10:09] <lordievader> sk_: That is annoying...
[10:09] <lordievader> sk_: And through the terminal it worked like normal?
[10:10] <sk_> yes
[10:10] <sk_> this alt+sys-rq+k doesnt help...
[10:10] <lordievader> sk_: You could make a bash script, and run firefox through there...
[10:12] <sk_> probably that wont solve the real prob :)
[10:13] <JeroenDeDauw1> I'm attempting upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 and am getting this error:
[10:13] <JeroenDeDauw1> The upgrade needs a total of 29.8 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 5,883 k of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[10:13] <JeroenDeDauw1> I have a pretty standard setup with full disk encryption
[10:13] <JeroenDeDauw1> Not sure if I can increase the size of that partition
[10:13] <lordievader> JeroenDeDauw: Have you done what it says?
[10:14] <JeroenDeDauw1> lordievader: yeah, no effect
[10:14] <JeroenDeDauw1> or rather, same error
[10:14] <lordievader> JeroenDeDauw1: Your /boot is on a different partition?
[10:15] <JeroenDeDauw> lordievader: yeah
[10:16] <lordievader> JeroenDeDauw: Hmm yes I guess that is the only possibility, enlarging the partition.
[10:17] <JeroenDeDauw> lordievader: well, gparted does not enable the resize option...
[10:17] <JeroenDeDauw> And my other patiotions are /boot/efi, which I rather not touch
[10:17] <JeroenDeDauw> and the partition with the encrypted stuff on it, which I suspect I cannot easily resize
[10:18] <lordievader> JeroenDeDauw: Phew, that is a tough one...
[10:18] <JeroenDeDauw> Yeah
[10:19] <lordievader> JeroenDeDauw: Perhaps you can use the alternate-cd, then you can upgrade using the cd. But how it is done, no idea.
[10:19] <JeroenDeDauw> Not sure why I'm running into this - I really just installed the stuff without changing the default settings using Kubuntu 11.04 alternate installer
[10:19] <JeroenDeDauw> Huh
[10:19] <JeroenDeDauw> lordievader: why do you think this one would not run into the same problem?
[10:21] <lordievader> JeroenDeDauw: Not sure really, he doesn't need to download stuff, but it is quite likely that you run into the same problem :(
[10:37] <JeroenDeDauw> lordievader: this fixed it for me: http://berkhamsted-web-design.co.uk/2011/06/update-manager-not-enough-free-disk-space-on-disk-boot/ :)
[11:46] <neo_> oi
[11:47] <lordievader> neo_: hello
[11:49] <lordievader> neo_: How are you?
[11:50] <neo_> i'm ok lordievader
[11:54] <Chakotay> I just installed Kubuntu 12.04 on my laptop. Setting up the VPN was very easy compared to older versions, but when I try to connect to the VPN, nothing happens. I tried it with a couple of locations with the same results. I can see them highlight when I roll over them with my mouse, but again, clicking on them does nothing. Any ideas what the problem can be?
[11:59] <Vuth> hi guys
[11:59] <Vuth> whats the main differenve between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[11:59] <ikonia> desktop
[11:59] <Pici> Kubuntu comes with KDE by default, Ubuntu has gnome+unity.
[11:59] <ikonia> kde/gnome
[12:00] <Vuth> Ubuntu has Gnome+Unity working together?
[12:00] <Vuth> I thought u can only use one or the other
[12:00] <ikonia> Vuth: maybe worth reading ubuntu.com to get an overview, or https://help.ubuntu.com and check out the desktop section
[12:00] <jviloria> hi guys
[12:00] <jviloria> hi
[12:00] <Vuth> im a linux noob.. Unitythank u
[12:01] <jviloria> you are the venezuela?
[12:01] <Vuth> I have ADD..its hard for me to read long text so i will try and be right back
[12:01] <ikonia> Vuth: if you are new, all the more reason to check out ubuntu.com and https://help.ubuntu.com
[12:01] <Vuth> nope im from Cambodia
[12:03] <Chakotay> Anyone familiar with VPN settings?
[12:11] <Chakotay> Can anyone see my posts? Just curious.
[12:11] <CruX|> Chakotay: yup
[12:11] <Chakotay> Thank you CruX
[12:13] <lordievader> Chakotay: Just seems that no one has a good idea about it.
[12:13] <shampo> hello, i'm having a problem with Monospace font since i upgraded to kubuntu 12.04; it doesn't appear in bold anymore when it should be (in kde applications like Konsole or Kate); in the font configuration, the bold version appears just like the regular one: http://i.imgur.com/QUtoW.png
[12:15] <Chakotay> lordievader: I know. I just wanted to make sure I was visible. I've been going nuts here.
[12:15] <lordievader> Chakotay: I know that feeling, too bad...
[12:17] <Chakotay> lordievader: I'll keep googling, and hopefully I can find something to point me in the right direction. I'll also wait a while and repost my problem again.
[12:18] <lordievader> Chakotay: Good luck!
[12:18] <Chakotay> lordievader: Thanks!
[12:27] <Chakotay> lordievader: I figured it out. I just went into package manager and installed openvpn and network-manager-openvpn. It is now connecting. I just figured it was installed since I was able to import my VPN locations.
[12:27] <lordievader> Chakotay: Good job!
[12:28] <Chakotay> lordievader: Thanks! I wanted to make sure I posted it in case anyone else ran into this situation.
[12:29] <lordievader> Chakotay: Stick around, you'll learn a lot and you can help others :)
[12:31] <Chakotay> lordievader: Definitely. This is why I love Linux. Great community of people
[12:32] <lordievader> Chakotay: Exactly :)
[12:40] <jonah> hi i've installed 12.04 when it was beta and been updating it. works great but the boot up splash screen is grey with a funny looking cog and it doesn't say kubuntu etc. It's not right, does anyone know how I can fix this or install the new splash screen? thanks for your help
[12:40] <barnabas02> It is right.
[12:41] <barnabas02> That is the new splash screen.
[12:41] <jonah> barnabas02: it can't be, mines all pixelated and just looks like it's not loaded properly...
[12:42] <barnabas02> Hmm. I have a green screen, with a gear icon, and dots loading under it.
[12:42] <barnabas02> Not green, gray sorry
[12:43] <jonah> barnabas02: i don't have any dots loading underneath and it definitely looks distorted. something isn't right with it at all, is there anyway to reinstall the grub boot splash to the default?
[12:43] <lordievader> Here it is pixelated too, always thought it was the ATI driver, on 11.10 it would do the same, pixelated with ATI driver, not pixelated without ATI.
[12:43] <barnabas02> But you may want to save all your data, and completely reinstall kubuntu.
[12:44] <jonah> lordievader: it's just that before upgrading the blue one looked really crisp and nice
[12:44] <barnabas02> Or try updating grub
[12:44] <jonah> barnabas02: i've done the sudo upgrade-grub command before but this is just for the menu. do you know how to replace or upgrade the graphic?
[12:46] <barnabas02> I dont know exactly how to do it, but If I were you, I would reinstall the system.
[12:46] <barnabas02> It it the best solution for almost all kind of problems, I think.
[12:48] <lordievader> barnabas02: Usually it does work, but it is also quite annoying, escpecially if you do a lot of customizing.
[12:52] <barnabas02> lordievader: I looked after, but I couldn't find a way to export settings, so, you maybe can write them down.  I takes a lot of time, but you will have your settings anywhere.
[12:52] <jonah> yeah i'd rahter not reinstall as everything works well, it's just the splash i can live with it
[12:52] <jonah> thanks
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:03] <L3tops> ello
[13:07] <lordievader> L3tops: Hey
[13:13] <himcesjf> Hello! I tried to purge akonadi-server and didn't realize that it removes kubuntu-desktop with it. While it was removing it terminated it by pressing Ctrl+z and tried to update and reinstall kubuntu-desktop and akonadi-server. On update, I'm getting error as - E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem --.and running -- $ sudo dpkg --configure -a , I get error as -dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/
[13:13] <himcesjf> lib/dpkg/updates/0175' near line 0:  newline in field name `#padding'. -- I tried running <sudo dpkg --clear-avail> but still the same error. What is the error about and how can I debug it?
[13:14] <shampo> can someone running kubuntu 12.04 run this please? fc-match Monospace
[13:18] <tsimpson> himcesjf: I'd suggest you remove /var/lib/dpkg/updates/017 and try again, you can always let dpkg remove whatever it wants then reinstall the "kubuntu-desktop" package to get it all back (if you need to)
[13:22] <BluesKaj> shampo, why are you requesting users to run a command that may change the look of their chosen fonts ?
[13:23] <shampo> BluesKaj: it doesn't :(
[13:24] <shampo> BluesKaj: i just want to know what's the default font that Monospace maps to
[13:24] <BluesKaj> shampo, you should always explain your request first
[13:25] <shampo> ye i guess i should have
[13:25] <shampo> but this command is no harm
[13:26] <BluesKaj> ok shampo , DejaVuSansMono.ttf: "DejaVu Sans Mono" "Book"
[13:26] <shampo> ok thanks
[13:30] <shampo> BluesKaj: do you know how to reset all the font configs so that mine comes back to DejaVuSansMono as well?
[13:30] <Kalidarn> hmm, does anyone know why when i set the Date format to PH:MM:SS AMPM the digital clock applet doesn't change from 24hr time
[13:30] <Kalidarn> doesn't seem to matter what i set it to
[13:30] <Kalidarn> btw my locale is LC_TIME="en_AU.UTF-8"
[13:30] <Kalidarn> i'm sure it used to work
[13:32] <tsimpson> Kalidarn: I believe you need to logout and back in again for it to change effect (or restart plasma manually)
[13:32] <Kalidarn> yah i did that nothing worked
[13:32] <Kalidarn> i even tried recreating the plasma applet config
[13:32] <Kalidarn> date +%r shows the correct time
[13:33] <Kalidarn> ie plasma-desktop-appletsrc
[13:33] <BluesKaj> shampo, afaik change them in system settings>font management
[13:33] <Kalidarn> maybe i should purposely set it to something that isn't 12hr time to see what it does
[13:34] <shampo> BluesKaj: there is no mention of "Monospace" alias in there
[13:35] <Kalidarn> my bad i worked out the issue :)
[13:35] <Kalidarn> *embarassed look*
[13:35] <Kalidarn> let's just say it is not a bug
[13:36] <BluesKaj> my bad = my mistake ...can we stick to plain english please
[13:37] <tsimpson> Kalidarn: does "plasmoidviewer digital-clock" show the right format?
[13:37] <himcesjf> Thanks tsimpson, its working properly now.
[13:37] <tsimpson> himcesjf: no problem :)
[13:38] <himcesjf> I'm not sure thought what exactly was the pasrsing issue there
[13:38] <himcesjf> though*
[13:38] <tsimpson> I'd guess it was a blank file, where it expected something else in there
[13:39] <tsimpson> by the way, Ctrl-Z doesn't stop a process, just suspends it
[13:39] <himcesjf> I think I did combination of Ctrl+z, x,c when it starting removing kubuntu-desktop
[13:41] <tsimpson> I guess as long as it works in the end, it really doesn't matter too much :)
[13:41] <himcesjf> Yea, was just curious. Thanks :)
[14:14] <Kalidarn> tsimpson: yes it does :) it's working like it is supposed to
[14:14] <Kalidarn> tsimpson: it was me that wasn't working like i was supposed to
[14:14] <tsimpson> usually the first thing I check is, "what did I do wrong?"
[14:19] <Kalidarn> ah yes, well i had the wrong date/time format :)
[14:20] <Kalidarn> because i mistook a p for a P
[14:20] <Kalidarn> or rather a P for a p
[14:20] <Kalidarn> though the date time format thing could be clearer
[14:20] <Kalidarn> PH:MM:SS AMPM you'd think is AM/PM time
[14:20] <Kalidarn> because it has AM/PM there
[14:20] <Kalidarn> but in actual fact what i wanted was pH:MM:SS AMPM
[14:21] <Kalidarn> i had instantly assumed HH:MM:SS was 24 hr time
[14:21] <Kalidarn> which now i think about it could be considered a bug
[14:22] <tsimpson> HH:MM:SS should be 24 hour
[14:22] <tsimpson> (that's what mine is)
[14:22] <Kalidarn> yeah then what is PH:MM:SS AMPM
[14:22] <Kalidarn> cos it also looks like 24hr time
[14:23] <Kalidarn> was only when i changed it to pH:MM:SS AMPM that it finally worked properly
[14:23] <tsimpson> PH is the hour in 12-hour format 00-12
[14:23] <tsimpson> pH is the same, except 0-12 (no leading 0)
[14:23] <tsimpson> hover the mouse over the "Time format" input section
[14:30] <joel> hello all
[14:33] <lesstatt> hello
[14:33] <Kalidarn> hmm okay then tsimpson
[14:34] <tsimpson> the format isn't great, but when there are so many different ways to display the time/date and you want to let people customise it...
[14:38] <lesstatt> so how is everyone today
[14:49] <tsimpson> lesstatt: please don't randomly CTCP people
[15:07] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[15:22] <pixel__> Hi, today I upgraded my Ubuntu 11.10 32bit to Ubuntu 12.04. Since it broke and I had been thinking about trying KDE I Installed Kubuntu 64bit. That one reaced extremely slow so I tried Kubuntu 32bit, bit it's slow too, and I mean on a 1.8 GHz Dualcore Every reaction takes around 10-20 sec and I watch the screen changes build up within 1-2 seconds. Any ideas?
[15:23] <Jonah79> Strange that Pixel for I have the same kind of slow down issues with unity but KDE 4.8 runs great
[15:23] <BluesKaj> pixel__, which graphics card?
[15:23] <pixel__> OnBoard
[15:24] <pixel__> I think... NVIDIA something 2
[15:24] <pixel__> quite old
[15:24] <BluesKaj> pixel__, ok , run, lspci |grep VGA , in the terminal
[15:24] <metal> hi
[15:25] <metal> how can I update my Kubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 from Terminal?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> metal , sudo do-release-upgrade is the simplest command
[15:26] <pixel__> BluesKaj, VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150] (rev a2)
[15:26] <metal> thanks, blueskaj
[15:26] <BluesKaj> metal, make sure you update/upgrade your 11.10 first tho
[15:26] <metal> hmm?
[15:27] <pixel__> metal: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:27] <metal> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:27] <Joe^> guys, how can I upgrade from 12.04 beta 2 to the final release?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> hmm?  metal otherwise you may have a block from muon if it's bugs aren't taken out by the upgrade
[15:27] <EagleScreen> hi
[15:28] <EagleScreen> I cannot lock the screen in Kubuntu 12.04 (plasma-netbook)
[15:28] <Jonah79> couldn't you backup your files and install a fresh spin of 12.04?
[15:28] <EagleScreen> Jonah79: are you talking to me?
[15:28] <pixel__> metal, you have to do the update/upgrade in a console, not here ;-)
[15:29] <metal> I did
[15:29] <Jonah79> no eagle :)
[15:29] <metal> it said E: Invalid operation update,
[15:29] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:30] <BluesKaj> use that metal ^
[15:30] <pixel__> EagleScreen, update and upgrade are two separate commands
[15:30] <metal> what's the update size?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> depends on what apps you have instralled
[15:31] <metal> if ya were me, what would ya do?
[15:32] <metal> install 12.04 or upgrade 11.10?
[15:32] <designbybeck> I tried to do a system upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 and it broke big time
[15:33] <metal> then I guess I go for installing Pangolin
[15:33] <metal> can I ask Ubuntu questins here?
[15:33] <designbybeck> BluesKaj:  it was on the public access computer, All download and install part seemed to go ok, when I rebooted it gave some kind of panic message and reboots
[15:34] <designbybeck> the locks up at the bios, i then have to hard/soft reset and it goes to grub, (the new grub) even if i go to recovery mode i can't do anything much
[15:34] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, metal , there have been many successful upgrades from 11.1o\0 to 12.04 , without any problems , but that also depends on one's HW drivers etc as well
[15:34] <designbybeck> So i left it doing a mem test to see if that would check on anything for me, if not I guess I'll boot off a usb drive and see if i can fix it somehow that way
[15:34] <designbybeck> Yes BluesKaj I did update my main laptop just fine with that way
[15:34] <pixel__> BluesKaj, any idea? Googling 'kubuntu slow screen' didn't give me much help :/
[15:35] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, go to a tty , ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 , and update/upgrade
[15:35] <designbybeck> i couldn't  BluesKaj
[15:35] <designbybeck> at least when i did go safemode and tried to get a promt, I didn't have internet access
[15:36] <metal> the issue is that, where I come from, I have to by the data traffic
[15:36] <metal> so, I guess installing a fresh version seems more reasonable
[15:36] <BluesKaj> ok ,then it's wifi drivers not working?  amongst other things
[15:36] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,^
[15:36] <pixel__> metal, sounds like Iceland? ;-)
[15:36] <designbybeck> ah yes in that case metal, download the full distro iso and you'll have it for next time
[15:37] <BluesKaj> metal, yes , but downloading the image can take  a while too :)
[15:37] <designbybeck> it did complain aobut the wireless firmware, because there is a card in it, but it is plugged into the NIC
[15:38] <metal> I guess I torrented that
[15:38] <metal> Iran
[15:38] <metal> :)
[15:38] <metal> one thing
[15:38] <metal> my Ubunutu doesn't stand by
[15:39] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, got an ethernet connection handy ?
[15:39] <designbybeck> yeah it has both in it BluesKaj, but was running on the NIC
[15:39] <designbybeck> not the wifi
[15:40] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, usually we refer to the wired connecrtion as ethernet , NICs can be both wifi and ethernet
[15:41] <designbybeck> true, sorry
[15:41] <designbybeck> ethernet that is
[15:41] <BluesKaj> ok , that's not a good sign , maybe a clean install off a media would be best
[15:42] <BluesKaj> designbybeck,^
[15:42] <designbybeck> Sadly that is my last options... and looks like that I'll have to do, I'm not sure if i did something funky when it was doing the updates or what, but about to make me a new LiveBoot USB now
[15:43] <designbybeck> nopefully i can try an upgrade? fix /repair? and not have to reinstall all my apps?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> pixel__, open the the kmenu>system>additional drivers , are there any "recommended graphics drivers" listed there , if so choose it and install
[15:44] <pixel__> BluesKaj, ok, this may take a while^^
[15:46] <BluesKaj> pixel__, once installed you'll be asked to reboot
[15:46] <EagleScreen> I will install the post-release updates and will test again the Lock Screen
[15:46] <pixel__> BluesKaj, btw, doubleclick in system settings? (hard to learn a new UI that takes forever to respond)
[15:46] <metal> thanks, people
[15:47] <BluesKaj> pixel__, no , open the kmenu >applications>settings>additional drivers
[15:48] <pixel__> BluesKaj, oh, thanks, sorry
[15:48] <BluesKaj> sorry pixel__ I misspelled , not settings  open the kmenu >applications>system>additional driver
[15:53] <pixel__> BluesKaj, hm, it doesn't seem to react to clicks to the "Applications" tab. Can I call that "Additional drivers" dialog from the command line?
[15:54] <EagleScreen> can you test the Lock Screen feature in 12.04? is it working for you?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> pixel__,  you can run Jockey from the CLI for Nvidia Recommended Driver install , switch to a tty (ctrl-alt-f2), log in, then type "jockey-text -a" and press enter
[15:56] <pixel__> BluesKaj, thanks!
[15:57] <pixel__> BluesKaj, "ERROR: Cound not find any typelib for AppIndicator3"
[15:57] <pixel__> [translated from german] "Additional drivers"
[15:58] <pixel__> [...] "Looking for additional drivers..."
[15:58] <pixel__> [back to tty]
[15:59] <BluesKaj> pixel__,sudo apt-get install jockey-common jockey-kde
[16:00] <pixel__> Those are already installed, apt-get says
[16:00] <pixel__> jockey-text -c and -u didn't give anything new
[16:01] <pixel__> -l is giving me entries "Xorg:nvidia_current" and "xorg:nvidia_current_updates"
[16:03] <pixel__> BluesKaj, I keep getting that ERROR message.
[16:05] <pixel__> hey, on F7 tha applications tab opened \o/
[16:07] <colock> hello, it's been all afternoon trying to get kubuntu installed on a new pc. the best result so far is a blue screen (instead of plain black with monitor not detecting any output) without anything going on
[16:07] <colock> i cannot see the grub menu
[16:08] <colock> i would like to boot without any fancy graphic thingie and _SEE_ what's happening
[16:08] <colock> how can I do that?
[16:08] <colock> not sure the blue thingie is a borked grub or a borked boot splash screen
[16:08] <BluesKaj> pixel__, let's check , if the driver is installed, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[16:09] <colock> keeping <tab> down while booting does not help
[16:09] <pixel__> BluesKaj, 6 entries
[16:09] <BluesKaj> colock, try the shiftkey immediately after the bios screen to get grub
[16:10] <colock> trying BluesKaj, thanks
[16:10] <BluesKaj> pixel__, pastebin them pls
[16:10] <pixel__> BluesKaj, libwinnvidiahack4, nvidia-common, -current, ... okay
[16:10] <pixel__> hmm or not, BluesKaj
[16:10] <colock> "loading Operating System"\n and nothing happens
[16:10] <colock> :(
[16:11] <colock> what a shitty bios
[16:11] <FloodBotK1> colock: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:11] <pixel__> hm, unless I ssh the output to this netbook... stand by BluesKaj
[16:12] <designbybeck> BluesKaj:  just went and tried to boot from the USB.... did the same panic and restarted
[16:12] <colock> (the installation [alternate] works just fine)
[16:12] <designbybeck> the system was working fine with 11.04... this is pretty odd
[16:12] <designbybeck> I might have to try Ubuntu 12.04 and see if that will install at least?
[16:12] <colock> should be already up and running it's a 8x3.2Ghz/16Gb Ram/Raid1 SSD system
[16:13] <colock> should maybe burn a gentoo livecd and chroot into it for some grub tweaking...
[16:13] <pixel__> BluesKaj, Yay, segfault of kwin on F7... -.-
[16:14] <BluesKaj> colock, misplaced grub
[16:14] <colock> BluesKaj: meaning?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> colock, it might be installed on the wrong partition or drive
[16:15] <colock> both sda and sdb
[16:15] <colock> the installer should do it properly
[16:18] <BluesKaj> colock, a Raid1 SSD system is a differnt kettle of fish
[16:19] <colock> grub and/or the initrd cannot handle that?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> dunno , but it's not a standard state for a normal kubuntu install
[16:20] <colock> the installer (alternate) just let you do setup raid and lvm
[16:22] <pixel__> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/F3hEgqgL
[16:22] <BluesKaj> colock, fine , I've used the alternate many times , but i'm not familiar with a raid1 install ...never needed to worry about it
[16:22] <colock> ok, in rescue shell in rootfs
[16:22] <colock> now tweaking grub to at least give me a chance to see/do something...
[16:25] <BluesKaj> pixel__, that's the most up to date driver normally used on newer pci graphics cards not a 6150 onboard ...was thinking your driver might be a 270 series not a the 295
[16:34] <orated> Hello! After recent upgrade, whenever I login I get ankonadi processes - http://i.imgur.com/XUsDA.png - eating RAM and CPU that system soon hangs. I have to always kill all akonadi processes for system not to hang. What are these processes for and how can I avoid getting them started on login?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> orated, are you using kmail or kontacy or any kdepim apps?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> err kontact
[16:42] <orated> No
[16:45] <pixel__> BluesKaj, so what can i do?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> orated, open the kmenu , type akonadi , choose the server configuration , stop the server . You can disable akonadi in system settings>startup&shutdown>service manager , nepomuk search module (tied to akonadi), uncheck that.Then in session mangement , check "restore previous session" and add akonadi, nepomuk to the "applications to be excluded from sessions" text
[16:47] <BluesKaj> orated, then click apply :)
[16:50] <orated> BluesKaj: Server configuration: server not running. Service Manager: Unchecked Nepomuk Search Module and changes made to Session Management
[16:52] <BluesKaj> orated, ok now check in system monitor process table to see if your cpu is normal
[16:52] <orated> BluesKaj: Still the same behavior on login after logout
[16:53] <orated> RAM usage rises exponentially from 0.6GB to maximum it can
[16:53] <BluesKaj> did you check "restore previous session" in session mangement?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> because if you didn't you'lkl need to do it all again
[16:54] <orated> Yes, and inputted applications to exclude in "akonadi, nepomuk" format. Moreover, On Login section always had Restore previous session marked, I only inputted those app
[16:55] <BluesKaj> you can also turn off nepomuk in system settings
[16:56] <orated> Yes, Desktop Search > Nepomuk Sematic Desktop disabled
[16:56] <orated> Semantic*
[16:56] <BluesKaj> and akonadi is still running after the relogin ?
[16:56] <orated> Yes, that is what I noticed
[16:56] <orated> I'll restart system if you like
[16:57] <orated> Is the format to input applications to exclude correct?
[17:02] <EagleScreen> anyone with Kubuntu 12.04 can check if Lock Screen works?
[17:03] <EagleScreen> right-click on Desktop and Lock Screen
[17:03] <Shaan7> EagleScreen: worksforme
[17:03] <EagleScreen> Shaan7: could you also check it in plasma-netbook?
[17:04] <orated> On plasma-netbook here EagleScreen, it works
[17:04] <Shaan7> works
[17:04] <EagleScreen> then the problem seems to be mine
[17:04] <sunsetlover> works here too
[17:05] <EagleScreen> by any reason Lock Screen option does nothing in my netbook
[17:05] <EagleScreen> Powerdevil can't neither lock the screen
[17:05] <orated> BluesKaj: Another sample of the recent attempt
[17:05] <orated> http://i.imgur.com/ucjLi.png
[17:05] <sunsetlover> seems that you have problem in configuration
[17:06] <EagleScreen> yes, but this is a new fresh installation of 12.04
[17:06] <EagleScreen> I hadn't time to break the configuration
[17:07] <pixel__> BluesKaj, now booting the 64bit CD into live mode to test if that works...
[17:07] <sunsetlover> try to reconfigure the screen saver and test lock screen again
[17:07] <BluesKaj> pixel__, check your system monitor to see what's hogging resources
[17:08] <orated> BluesKaj: I'm on netbook giving above states of the laptop. Is there anything you think that can be done?
[17:08] <sunsetlover> the same problem happened with my 32bit cd and i found that cd don't have live mode , and only the dvd have it
[17:09] <orated> pixel__: 64bit CD live mode issue with it giving boot> prompt?
[17:09] <orated> I mean 32 bit*
[17:09] <pixel__> BluesKaj, at least the No1 pain of almost all systems I know, the HDD, is quite bored...
[17:09] <BluesKaj> orated, stopping the akondia server and following the steps i posted should work , myabe you need to reboot rather than login
[17:10] <sunsetlover> so i donloaded the dvd iso and burned it on dvd and test it and its worked
[17:10] <pixel__> orated, I went into install mode on 32bit and 64 bit, now clicking "test kubuntu"
[17:11] <orated> BluesKaj: Which file/folder in ~/.kde deals with akonadi? I'm thinking of doing a fresh install and will exclude that particular folder when copying back old kde
[17:11] <pixel__> okay, Kubuntu is officially the first Distro I know where the live CD performs by far better than the installed system^^
[17:12] <sunsetlover> pixel: try to download the dvd iso and use it and it will give you live mode
[17:13] <pixel__> orated, boot to 64bit live cd worked like a charm, no boot> prompt
[17:13] <pixel__> BluesKaj, live offers no proprietary drivers in the gui
[17:15] <BluesKaj> pixel__, don't think it's graphics , it's probly akonadi and nepomuk / virtuoso using up your resources causing the slowdown
[17:19] <pixel__> BluesKaj, hm, okay, so I can boot back and see if I can kill those services...
[17:19] <BluesKaj> pixel__, check my posts to orated to see the steps
[17:20] <pixel__> *sniff* I really like the live cd version. MPO photo support, a nice desktop photo screenlet...
[17:20] <pixel__> okay, I'll do that
[17:23] <pixel__> BluesKaj, if i get to work my current install, is there any reason not to try 64bit afterwards
[17:25] <BluesKaj> pixel__, well Iwouldn't bothger with 32bit ay all if I had 64 bit
[17:26] <BluesKaj> pixel__, well I wouldn't bother with 32bit at all if I had 64 bit
[17:26] <pixel__> BluesKaj, okay, I kept 32bit because years ago there were problems with getting 64bit adobe reader and so on
[17:26] <pixel__> BluesKaj, btw, now back in the installed system, htop gives me a load of .2
[17:27] <BluesKaj> pixel__, there architecture support as default in kubuntu since 11.04 or 11.10 , so 32 bit installs are uneccessary now
[17:27] <BluesKaj> arch support
[17:32] <pixel__> BluesKaj, I don't think I've got the same problem as orated - my system is absolutely bored.
[17:33] <BluesKaj> bored ?
[17:33] <BluesKaj> or borked
[17:33] <pixel__> no HDD activity, system load of 0.2, ... bored
[17:33]  * pixel__ looks up "borked"
[17:34] <pixel__> oh, borked = FUBAR, I see
[17:35] <BluesKaj> pixel__, but it's slow ...look at the process table in system monitor ...theremight be a clue there
[17:35] <pixel__> what I can do is go back to live cd and see what your initial commands print.
[17:36] <pixel__> system monitor? console please :D
[17:36] <kesavan> hi
[17:36] <pixel__> htop says right now load average: 0.83 0.63 0.38
[17:41] <pixel__> hm, a high cpu usage woud show in htop under TIME+, right?
[17:42] <pixel__> BluesKaj, top position is "/usr/bin/kwin --crashes 1" with 57.28 seconds
[17:42] <BluesKaj> , errands ...BBL
[17:42] <pixel__> BluesKaj, okay
[17:50] <garou> Help. Hi. How can I run my own scripts on kate 3.8.2? Looks like the old plugin "External tools" isn't available anymore.
[17:54] <alvaro> hola
[17:54] <pixel__> BluesKaj, on the livecd, dpkg -l | grep nvidia returns only the lines libkwinnvidiahack4 and ncidia-common
[17:54] <alvaro> nmbjn
[17:55] <alvaro> hi
[18:08] <kesavan> I am new to this environment
[18:09] <kesavan> Can somebody help me to know how this works?
[18:11] <DarthFrog> kesavan:  What in particular are you having trouble with?
[18:11] <kesavan> can I clear doubts regarding Ubuntu here?
[18:12] <DarthFrog> Ubuntu or Kubuntu?  This channel is for Kubuntu support.
[18:13] <kesavan> okay..Actually right now I am using Ubuntu 12.04 in my pc.
[18:13] <kesavan> my laptop*
[18:13] <DarthFrog> Then you want to ask your question in #Ubuntu.
[18:13] <kesavan> okay...
[18:13] <kesavan> Thanks
[18:13] <DarthFrog> You're welcome.
[18:14] <kesavan> one doubt. Can I use Konversation for #Ubuntu. If yes how can I use it?
[18:15] <kesavan> I got it..
[18:15] <kesavan> Thank you for your help :)
[18:15] <DarthFrog> Just install it.  Doing so should bring in all the dependencies.
[18:15] <DarthFrog> i.e. "sudo apt-get install konversation"
[18:15] <BluesKaj> kesavan, just install it
[18:17] <kesavan> I got it.
[18:17] <kesavan> Thanks DarthFrog, BluesKAj
[18:35] <ArchangelSe7en> gtg
[18:55] <francesco_> i have problem with samba share
[18:55] <francesco_> is there someone that speak italia?
[18:55] <maco> #ubuntu-it
[18:55] <BluesKaj> !it | francesco_
[18:56] <francesco_> grazie
[19:12] <designbybeck> BluesKaj:  After grading I got something similar to this, Trying to reinstall from LiveUSB, I got something similar to this. And this is from Ubuntu 12.04...
[19:12] <designbybeck> I'm thinking it might be that Wireless card that is in there. I'm not using it wirelessly so I might just take it out and see if that fixes it, But can anyone else tell by looking at that randomness why i was having problems
[19:13] <designbybeck> Here is the Screen shot http://www.pasteall.org/pic/31155
[19:18] <ybit> designbybeck: have you tried selecting a different kernel from the grub menu?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, wonder if the alternate install might be better , it accomodates more hardware than the standard install
[19:19] <pixel__> BluesKaj, btw., reinstalling 64bit now...  (hope dies last)
[19:19] <designbybeck> hmmm
[19:20] <designbybeck> no ybit it already did the upgrade the first time when i was in 11.10
[19:20] <designbybeck> don't know if i've ever triedd the alternative version BluesKaj
[19:21]  * BluesKaj doesn't understand the reluctance to install 64bit OSs now that arch support has proven it's benefits
[19:23] <BluesKaj> !alternate | designbybeck
[19:23] <designbybeck> downloading now BluesKaj ... fingers crossed
[19:27] <kesavan> good bye
[19:32] <luca> hi need om help in order to upgrade distribution to kubuntu 12.04
[19:32] <EagleScreen> hi luca
[19:32] <luca> hi
[19:33] <luca> i followed the official procedure in orderto do it but after that i reboot the system
[19:34] <luca> don't appear the notification for the availabilitiy of the new distribution
[19:34] <luca> someone can help me
[19:35] <luca> please
[19:35] <lordievader> luca: What official procedure are you talking about?
[19:35] <EagleScreen> luca: are you in kubuntu 11.10 now? please give us te link to the procedure
[19:36] <luca> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu
[19:36] <luca> yes i'm using 11.10
[19:37] <pixel__> BluesKaj and everyone else: Thanks for all the help, now everything works.
[19:37] <lordievader> luca: Well you can always do: sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:38] <BluesKaj> luca, close the upgrade manager , open a terminal , sudo apt-get upgate && sudo apt-get upgrade , then , sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:38] <EagleScreen> yes, try it luca
[19:38] <pixel__> I deleted the old profile directory (created by the first 64bit Kubuntu installation), reinstalled 64bit and now I have full speed. But don't ask me why it works this time.^^
[19:39] <luca> i've tryed but it says that there's no new distribution available
[19:39] <BluesKaj> pixel__, you may have had some old corrupted config files
[19:40] <BluesKaj> luca tried what ?
[19:40] <EagleScreen> luca is not the first person experiencing this problem
[19:40] <luca> i've tryed sudo do-release-upgrade and it donìt work
[19:40] <lordievader> luca: What does this say: cat /etc/lsb-release
[19:40] <EagleScreen> luca: press Alt + F2, and enter this command: do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f kde -d
[19:41] <luca> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[19:41] <luca> DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10
[19:41] <luca> DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric
[19:41] <luca> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10"
[19:41] <FloodBotK1> luca: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <BluesKaj> luca . follow the commands I gave you , you need to upgrade you 11.10 to get rid of bugs in muon upgrader ..it's very important that you do this first before the dist-upgrade
[19:42] <luca> i've tryed also do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f kde -d and it don't work
[19:42] <BluesKaj> luca, read my post above !
[19:43] <luca> i'm reading
[19:44] <EagleScreen> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade <-- should be equivalent to do an upgrade with muon updater
[19:45] <luca> sorry but i don't undestand
[19:46] <luca> apt-get is not a command of ubuntu
[19:47] <luca> or better not of muon
[19:47] <pixel__> BluesKaj, well but those were from the first 64bit-installation from earlier today
[19:49] <luca> and i did bujt nothing happen he says that the system is updated
[19:50] <luca> i did it alo with muon
[19:51] <luca> any other suggestion?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> no don't use muon ... you have update muon with apt-get , luca
[19:52] <luca> i did ur procedure blues but don't work
[19:52] <luca> muon was closed as u says
[19:52] <pepee> isn't this the bug that wont let you update to ubuntu lts?
[19:53] <luca> it seems a bug
[19:54] <luca> but i don't know how to fix it
[19:54] <luca> it could be important that i have the italian language installed
[19:54] <luca> ?
[19:55] <EagleScreen> luca: language should not matter
[19:55] <luca> ok thanks
[19:56] <EagleScreen> luca: apt-get is a known command ofocurse
[19:56] <pepee> sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f kde -d  ?
[19:56] <luca> also tryed pepee
[19:56] <EagleScreen> luca: did you get an error with "sudo apt-get update" ?
[19:56] <pepee> so you use sudo when running those commands? what error you get?
[19:57] <pepee> s/so/do/
[19:57] <pepee> http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57469-Muon-Update-Notifications-in-12-04&p=288871&viewfull=1#post288871
[19:57] <luca> no errors eagle
[19:58] <pepee> sudo apt-get dist-update
[19:59] <EagleScreen> any error with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  ??
[19:59] <BluesKaj> luca, try , sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[19:59] <BluesKaj> it's not a fix but a workaround
[20:00] <luca> don't work also blues
[20:00] <pepee> luca, remove these files: /var/lib/update-notifier/dpkg-run-stamp  /var/lib/update-notifier/updates-available  /var/lib/apt/periodic/update-success-stamp
[20:01] <goddard> is it possible to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[20:01] <pepee> sudo sh -c "rm /var/lib/update-notifier/dpkg-run-stamp  /var/lib/update-notifier/updates-available  /var/lib/apt/periodic/update-success-stamp"
[20:01] <RexHaviK> i installed 'prelink' and managed to get it to run error free, i have no idea if the intend prelinking is actually taking place, anyone played with it?
[20:02] <EagleScreen> goddard: yes, it is
[20:02] <lordievader> goddard: Yes, install the package kubuntu-desktop
[20:02] <luca> i'nm going to try pepee
[20:02] <pepee> goddard, yes, you need kubuntu-desktop
[20:02] <Resistance> goddard:  you can install kubuntu-desktop, which installs the KDE stuff
[20:02] <lordievader> goddard: It is quite a large package though.
[20:02] <Resistance> mhm
[20:02] <Resistance> large being an understatement
[20:02] <luca> did it pepee thaen
[20:03] <luca> then
[20:03] <pepee> luca, ok. then
[20:03] <pepee> sudo /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available --force
[20:03] <Resistance> i still use Ubuntu (GNOME/GTK) apps on KDE, i just installed KDE on my end.
[20:03] <lordievader> So perhaps a base package (kde-base, or something) is more usefull, smaller.
[20:03]  * RexHaviK also runs a hybrid
[20:03] <pepee> I'm using lxde now. kde is too much for my needs
[20:03] <lordievader> *Got two boxes, best of both worlds
[20:04] <luca> 0 packages can be updated.
[20:04] <luca> 0 updates are security updates.
[20:04] <pepee> I don't like kde wallet, or the fact that it uses mysql
[20:04] <lordievader> How can I do such an action thingie?
[20:04] <luca> now pepee
[20:05] <pepee> luca, run muon
[20:05] <BluesKaj> luca open update manager , make sure the upgrade notification is set to "normal"
[20:05] <pepee> luca, what BluesKaj says
[20:05] <RexHaviK> pepee, dont password kwallet, leave it blank , problem solved
[20:05] <luca> ok
[20:06] <RexHaviK> i installed 'prelink' and managed to get it to run error free, i have no idea if the intend prelinking is actually taking place, anyone played with it?
[20:07] <luca> sorry where is upgrade notification
[20:07] <EagleScreen> luca: kdesudo software-properties-kde -> Updates
[20:08] <EagleScreen> -> Release upgrade
[20:08] <EagleScreen> set it to normal
[20:11] <luca> done
[20:11] <luca> now?
[20:12] <pepee> nothing happens?
[20:12] <pepee> no error messages?
[20:13] <luca> was set to long term
[20:13] <pepee> luca,  <EagleScreen> set it to normal
[20:13] <BluesKaj> luca, LTS for some reason should work , but doesn't
[20:13] <luca> i set it
[20:14] <BluesKaj> ok , sudo-release-upgrade
[20:14] <pepee> sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:15] <BluesKaj> err .sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:15] <designbybeck> BluesKaj:  the ALternative can be installed via a Live USB correct?
[20:15]  * BluesKaj cleans his glassess , again
[20:16] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, did you use unetbootin ?
[20:16] <designbybeck> i'm still downloading it
[20:16] <pepee> what if luca downloads the alternate cd?
[20:16] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, then it should work
[20:16] <RexHaviK> i would like to force kde to use the adobe-flashplugin , is that possible?
[20:16] <luca> somehing is happened
[20:17] <EagleScreen> RexHaviK: yes it is
[20:17] <RexHaviK> EagleScreen, cool, how?
[20:17] <EagleScreen> RexHaviK: use it for.. Firefox? Rekonq?
[20:18] <luca> it dit seems tahat i working
[20:18] <RexHaviK> EagleScreen, dont have rekonq or firefox, do have chromium
[20:18] <BluesKaj> RexHaviK, did you download adobe-flashplugin, or are you talking about the default version?
[20:18] <luca> thank you veru much
[20:18] <luca> i will let you knnow
[20:18] <RexHaviK> BluesKaj, i installed the adobe-flashplugin from repos
[20:18] <EagleScreen> RexHaviK: install a tool called kalternatives from Muon or apt-get
[20:18] <BluesKaj> luca, thank us when it's upgraded and working :)
[20:19] <luca> you are right:)
[20:19] <RexHaviK> EagleScreen, will try it
[20:19] <EagleScreen> RexHaviK: and ofcourse, install flash-player
[20:19] <luca> for sure need sometimes just for downloading files
[20:20] <RexHaviK> EagleScreen, i do have adobe-flashplugin installed, i do want it and not the default plugin
[20:20] <EagleScreen> RexHaviK: later, open systemsettings on sudo mode (kdesudo systemsettings), open Alternatives configuration, and look for Mozilla Flashplugin option, then set the Adobe choice as default
[20:21] <RexHaviK> EagleScreen, got it
[20:26] <BluesKaj> EagleScreen,, or in the the terminal , locate libflashplayer.so , then copy it to , /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ with root permissions
[20:26] <RexHaviK> EagleScreen, the chosen is already adobe-.....
[20:29] <EagleScreen> RexHaviK: I have /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[20:32] <BluesKaj> well, the flashplugin installer was giving problems , so I didn't bother using it since it was a 32 bit app in a wrapper for 64 bit systems at the time , and I haven't changed my ways :)
[20:33] <EagleScreen> I use a 32 bit system
[20:33] <EagleScreen> someone uses 64 bits, then he shoud download the 64 bits version from Adobe website
[20:34] <EagleScreen> it is available in deb format
[20:34] <EagleScreen> and also in Ubuntu partner repository I think
[20:43] <designbybeck> and BluesKaj do i have to/need to use unetbootin' on this? or can I just use Startup Disk Creator?
[20:44] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, I'm not sure , I just know that unetbootin does work
[20:45] <designbybeck> ah gotcha!  Thanks BluesKaj
[20:59] <graft> hi-ho, i'm using rvm to set my ruby version, but this doesn't seem to work for kde, which is still using ruby 1.8 - how do i get kde to use ruby 1.9?
[21:05] <Resistance> !info ruby precise
[21:05] <Resistance> graft:  i'm not certain 1.9 is default in the repos...
[21:05] <Resistance> !info ruby1.9 precise
[21:05] <Resistance> it might not
[21:19] <rbetzen> ! libreoffice-report-builder-bin
[21:19] <rbetzen> !libreoffice-report-builder-bin
[21:20] <Unit193> !info libreoffice-report-builder-bin
[21:37] <Tommo_> hi guys!
[21:40] <Tommo_> I update kubuntu at releas 12.04 and I flash player plugin doesen't work...anyone can help me?
[21:42] <pepee> Tommo_, check if the adobe-flashplugin package is installed. then try reinstalling it
[21:44] <Tommo_> I've tried to reinstall this package, but nothing...
[21:45] <pepee> check if your browser sees the plugin
[21:45] <pepee> and if it is enable
[21:45] <pepee> s
[21:45] <pepee> *enabled
[21:46] <Tommo_> how can I do it?
[21:46] <Tommo_> I use Chromium browser
[21:49] <pepee> Tommo_, chrome:plugins
[21:49] <Tommo_> from konsole?
[21:50] <pepee> no, in the browser
[21:51] <Tommo_> I use Chromium, not Chrome
[21:51] <pepee> Tommo_, same here.
[21:51] <AngelForget> is same Tommo_
[21:52] <Tommo_> ok, but in google store doesn't exist flashplayer plugin
[21:53] <pepee> Tommo_, nothing from chrome:plugins ?
[21:54] <pepee> Flash - Versión: 11.2 r202
[21:54] <pepee> Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[21:54] <goddard> I need to save everything like the whole disk state so I can revert it if  Ineed to be able to put the image on the disk if my upgrade goes wrong
[21:55] <Tommo_> nothing...
[21:55] <pepee> goddard, make a backup?
[21:55] <pepee> Tommo_, in the console:  dpkg -l | grep flash
[21:57] <Tommo_> http://paste.kde.org/467630/
[22:00] <pepee> hmm try   sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-installer; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[22:03] <pepee> btw I got adobe-flashplugin from ubuntu partners repos, and it works
[22:04] <Tommo_> doesn't work...
[22:05] <pepee> Tommo_, ok, enable ubuntu partners repos and install adobe-flashplugin
[22:06] <pepee> Tommo_, or read this: http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58585-Is-there-a-problem-with-flashplugin-installer
[22:11] <Tommo_> wow I was able to work flashplugin! Ty so much pepee ;)
[22:12] <pepee> Tommo_, how?
[22:13] <Tommo_> I've installe adobe-flashplugin and adobe-flash-properties-kde
[22:14] <Tommo_> installed*
[22:14] <pepee> ahh ok
[22:14] <pepee> well, flash has always had problems in ubuntu
[22:14] <pepee> good thing I don't like it too much...
[22:32] <levi___> hey guys
[22:35] <levi___> anyone around?
[22:53] <goddard> I need to save everything like the whole disk state so I can revert it if  Ineed to be able to put the image on the disk if my upgrade goes wrong