[08:08] <dglass> any bug supervisors able to answer a question or two about SRUs?
[13:07] <mlankhorst> Can I please be added to the bugs team? :)
[13:11] <hggdh> mlankhorst: please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad with special emphasys on "Requirements" at the end. Then please apply, and we will approve you
[13:12] <mlankhorst> I've read it, subscribed to ml and applied
[13:12]  * hggdh looks at email, and find mlankhorst's application
[13:13] <hggdh> mlankhorst: welcome to the Bug Squad! :-)
[13:13] <hggdh> mlankhorst: sorry
[13:13] <mlankhorst> np :)
[13:13] <mlankhorst> and thanks
[13:14] <hggdh> mlankhorst: heh, my pleasure. We sure need the help
[15:24] <EddieT> hello all, would this be a place to report an issue with installing the bridge-utils package on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:29] <EvilResistance> EddieT, not exactly, filing a bug on launchpad against the package might be *if* the issue is a bug in the package
[15:29] <EvilResistance> getting support with this is in #ubuntu
[15:29] <EddieT> so my issue is that it will not install, gets a has sum mismatch
[15:30] <EddieT> package downloads, but willnot install
[15:30] <EddieT> hash sum mismatch, sorry typing
[15:30] <EvilResistance> bleh, windows limitations...
[15:30]  * EvilResistance grabs his LiveUSB, and boots to it
[15:30] <EddieT> seems to be an issue with the files in the repo..not necessarily an ubuntu issue...
[15:34] <EvilResistance> EddieT:  this is 12.04?
[15:34] <EddieT> yes, 12.04 LTS 64 bit
[15:35] <EddieT> worked on Monday, but since Tuesday get the error when trying to do "apt-get install bridge-utils"
[15:35] <EddieT> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main bridge-utils amd64 1.5-2ubuntu6 [31.4 kB]
[15:35] <EddieT> Fetched 31.4 kB in 0s (0 B/s)
[15:36] <EddieT> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bridge-utils/bridge-utils_1.5-2ubuntu6_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[15:36] <EvilResistance> oyi, pastebin
[15:36] <EvilResistance> has nobody in the world heard of pastebin? :/
[15:36] <EvilResistance> !pastebin
[15:36] <ubot2> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:36] <EddieT> well I am not an IRC regular at all...my apologies
[15:36] <EvilResistance> i've been meaning to install Precise...
[15:36]  * EvilResistance downloads a precise installation image and preps a VM
[15:37] <EddieT> i had no issues until yesterday, was able to build 3 or 4 test nodes...now i cannot get the bridge-utils...thought i would try here...
[15:37] <EvilResistance> well if i can get an instance of Precise up and running, then i can see if hte issue is localized to just your system
[15:37] <EvilResistance> or globally
[15:37] <EddieT> that would be a great test
[15:38] <EddieT> I have a partner in Oregon doing same...but he is more n00b than I
[15:38] <EvilResistance> problem is downloading Precise :P
[15:38]  * EvilResistance doesnt have an ISO yet
[15:38] <EddieT> basic install, update, dist-upgrade, then try bridge-utils
[15:39] <EddieT> it has to be the md5 hash is what I am thinking...or something is getting twisted on the download, but this is a pretty small package
[15:47] <EddieT> apt-get install -o Acquire::http::No-Cache=True bridge-utils
[15:47] <EddieT> EvilResistance , that command worked
[16:25] <EvilResistance> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/irssi/+bug/993378
[16:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 993378 in pidgin "pastebinit sould be a dependency" [Wishlist,Triaged]
[16:25] <EvilResistance> triage/wishlist
[16:25] <EvilResistance> its needed as triage/wishlist on irssi
[16:28] <bdmurray> EvilResistance: done thanks
[16:28] <EvilResistance> bdmurray:  it's going to be filed against two other packages, and need wishlisting too, so stick around ;P
[16:29] <EvilResistance> same bug, xchat and xchat-gnome, wishlist is required
[16:37] <EvilResistance> bdmurray:  ^
[16:41] <greg_g> EvilResistance: can you think of a situation where we have made a dependency just because "if you're using this, you might want to use this" intead of "this program actually needs this to function" (excluding meta packages, of course)
[16:41] <EvilResistance> greg_g:  i'm doing proxy-adding for the bug's OP
[16:41] <EvilResistance> not myself
[16:41] <EvilResistance> :P
[16:42] <EvilResistance> to be honest, IMHO, those should all be invalid'd
[16:42]  * greg_g nods
[16:42] <EvilResistance> to add an additional dependency to packages is pointless
[16:42]  * EvilResistance is a packager  for the nginx package, and knows this all to well that adding unnecessary optional dependencies is useless
[16:43] <EvilResistance> it could be a "Recommends:" level thing, but not a dependency
[16:43] <EvilResistance> (or could be omitted altogether)
[16:43] <greg_g> right, I understand the desire to say "just run this command 'dmesg | grep blah | pastebinit" without having to first say "install pastebinit" but....
[16:43] <EvilResistance> you and i are on the same page :)
[16:43] <greg_g> yeah :)
[16:43] <EvilResistance> having said this, the guy asked to have them added, then noted he's having browser issues, so...
[16:43]  * EvilResistance is in the other channel where he is
[16:43] <greg_g> ah
[16:44] <greg_g> well, thanks for helping eitherway :)
[16:44] <EvilResistance> but, according to the triage guide, if its a feature request, and isnt a completely bonkers request, it goes to wishlist
[16:45] <EvilResistance> (and since i'm not bugcontrol, i can't set triage/wishlist)
[16:45] <EvilResistance> (although to be honest, if I had any sort of real ultimate power concerning the packages, this bug/featurerequest would be invalid)
[16:46] <greg_g> :) yeah, correct
[16:47] <EvilResistance> and now i'm ranting, sorta, which means its time to get the next round of coffee for me
[23:25] <Kveras> Should I file a bug report if a program from the repositories is not behaving as it should when interacting with the unity global menu while maximized, ie. creating it's own maximized window borders or similar, or are these not considered bugs?
[23:27] <Kveras> I just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openttd/+bug/993624 but then I got second thoughts and wondered if maybe it's not considered a bug after all. I try to make an effort to be a good community member, so I just want to know for future bugs of similar kind.
[23:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 993624 in openttd "Openttd does not use the global panel menu when maximized" [Undecided,New]
[23:36] <Resistance> !info ncurses precise
[23:36] <Resistance> oops
[23:37] <Resistance> damn it closed the bots channel