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=== AndroUser2 is now known as kdub
philipballewPhysics, Whoever invented it must be a smart individual...04:49
philipballewmade it there I see kdub05:34
philipballewunless your planes crash site has wifi...05:34
kdubOn the bart05:39
bkerensaphilipballew: so I just confirmed with someone who is on-site for UDS now05:39
kdubThis is mildly scary :P05:39
bkerensaand when you check-in just tell you decline incidentals and they will not require the card05:39
bkerensa;D05:39
bkerensajono's team arrived early :P05:39
philipballewkdub, the bart is awesome!05:39
bkerensakdub: where on the BART system are you now?05:39
philipballewsounds good bkerensa05:40
kdubLul, by the oakland stadium05:41
bkerensaheh05:41
bkerensakdub: u arrived pretty early05:41
bkerensa:D05:41
philipballewIm gonna see a game there this next week probably05:47
philipballewbkerensa, so by incidentals you mean insurance?05:48
philipballewas in I cant party hard, wreck the place then just walk away?05:49
bkerensaphilipballew: incidentals = Pay Per View Movies, Room Service, International Calls etc05:49
bkerensaphilipballew: we get Wifi for free ;)05:49
bkerensaso for any of that stuff you would have to have a card on file or a cash deposit05:49
philipballewI would never do anything like that myself05:50
philipballewthe hotel's charge an arm and a lef for that. I could easily bring my own dvd player to the hotel with my own movies and hook it up to their tv05:51
philipballew*leg05:51
pleia2isn't it sad that the first thing I think of when I think of bart being scary is bart cops shooting people?05:51
philipballewWhat a tragic day, that was made even more tragic as it was blown up by the media solely for the sake of making a profit.05:52
philipballewI once rode the light rail in sac and the train in front of us ran over someone and cut them in half.05:53
philipballewthats scary05:53
pleia2yeah, I was on a bart train coming home from the airport when it hit someone (well, they jumped in front of the train, suicide)05:54
pleia2we got to evacuate in a bart tunnel, it was all kinds of excitement05:54
philipballewwhat a sad way to die.05:54
pleia2and sad, I felt a bit anxious and sick the next time I had to ride bart05:54
philipballewMakes you wonder what happens in their life that does not happen in mine.05:55
philipballewwith so many sucide prevention programs out there via churches and government programs sometimes you wonder, but for some people they will not make the first move to get help. Only accept when somebody offers.05:56
pleia2hopelessness is a powerful thing05:56
bkerensapleia2: this happened today?05:58
bkerensa=/05:58
pleia2bkerensa: no, a few months ago05:58
bkerensaoh05:58
bkerensa>.<05:58
bkerensastill bad05:58
philipballewIndeed it is. As fellow human beings I believe it is our job to help out our brothers and sisters who are struggling.05:58
pleia2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhNBCRggdYg05:58
* pleia2 took a video of the evacuation ^^05:58
bkerensaI have always feared the might bart.... I always think somehow the wind of the tunnels will suck me onto the third rail05:58
bkerensa:(05:58
bkerensamighty*05:59
philipballewgotta help a brother out is the slang today I think05:59
bkerensapleia2: there are fun times on bart too though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtZyA0GPKM05:59
pleia2bkerensa: most times on bart are good :)05:59
pleia2MarkDude has gone on as a penguin05:59
bkerensapleia2: so uhh what were you walking on in the tunnel?05:59
pleia2bkerensa: yes06:00
bkerensaI would totally refuse to get off the train06:00
bkerensa:(06:00
bkerensaim cool on all that06:00
bkerensathere are huge rats and electrical rails and such06:00
MarkDudeWow06:00
pleia2I like rats06:00
MarkDudeI would feel better if wearing rthe penguin suit during evacuation06:01
pleia2hehe06:01
MarkDudeI would take charge06:01
philipballewwhen I was there in sac when I saw the body, my brother has the stupic idea taking pictures of the body was a good idea. GOt talked to by sac pd06:01
philipballew*stupid06:01
philipballew*got06:01
MarkDudeand tell people which direction to head- while motioning with my flippers06:01
pleia2the whole situation was a mess, they kept being like "ok, now we're going to bring the other train up to this one and you'll walk across a platform ....scratch that, we'll think of something else"06:01
MarkDudePeople *would hella * listen06:01
pleia2..like they've never done this before?!06:01
MarkDudeWell they have pics of how to do it06:02
pleia2hehe06:02
bkerensapleia2: I like rats too... I own one but not the kind in the tunnels06:02
MarkDudeBut they dont really know06:02
bkerensathose are like cambodian river rats06:02
bkerensa:D06:02
pleia2everyone was very nice though :)06:02
philipballewi like rats the size of dogs06:02
pleia2even the cops who had to interview everyone on the train06:02
* MarkDude avoids making jokes about being scared of bart cops06:03
MarkDudedepending on color range06:03
pleia2MarkDude: I took care of it06:03
pleia222:51:13 < pleia2> isn't it sad that the first thing I think of when I think of bart being scary is bart cops shooting people?06:03
philipballewDont taze me bro!06:04
MarkDudeWell sadly, based on color06:04
pleia2then we decided that trains hitting people was scary, and then you joined :)06:04
bkerensaPortland was bad today http://www.koinlocal6.com/media/lib/107/0/6/e/06e955d0-c00d-4f88-ab5d-783478608b58/Story.jpg06:04
pleia2and yeah, I'd be pretty safe from bart cops, as would penguin MarkDude06:04
bkerensaso glad I didnt go downtown06:04
philipballewI wonder if the person shot was wearing a "hoodie"06:05
pleia2bkerensa: oh my, what's going on?06:05
MarkDudeWell, its one of the few areas I feel white Privilege06:05
* MarkDude knoww he he has it, but never thinks of it06:05
philipballewI feel it in sd everyday06:05
bkerensapleia2: uhh apparently the occupy folk decided to throw smoke bombs all day06:06
bkerensahttp://columbian.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2012/05/01/X216_18CC_9_t640.jpg?a6ea3ebd4438a44b86d2e9c39ecf7613005fe06706:06
pleia2bkerensa: oh dear :(06:06
bkerensacop pulling a guy off his bicycle06:06
bkerensa^06:06
bkerensayeah its been pretty bad here06:06
philipballewIts weird to be in City Heights and then go on back to where I live in Point Loma and see the big difference of the way people look06:06
* bkerensa was watching video on KGW earlier and cops were batoning people who were already handcuffed06:06
bkerensa:(06:06
pleia2:(06:06
MarkDudeWHO watches the watchers......06:07
philipballewI got called a idiot by a cop last friday06:07
pleia2we do! public outrage!06:07
MarkDudeWalnut Creek police, I fell vary safe around them, and would only be worried about tickets06:07
philipballewI was riding critical mass though. I think everybody hates Critical Mass06:07
MarkDudeOakland PD scares the hell out of me06:07
bkerensaMarkDude: funny you say that06:07
bkerensaMarkDude: there was a sureveillance van parked at Orenco Station in Hillsboro in a non-parking zone and some guy setup a webcam to watch the van06:08
bkerensa:D06:08
pleia2I used to work 3rd shift at a gas station, I've had far more friendly encounters with cops than otherwise06:08
MarkDudephilipballew, Critical Mas loves Portland, they stopped their shutdowns there06:08
pleia2as an 18 year old girl working alone at night in a gas station they looked out for me06:08
MarkDudepleia2, me too06:09
philipballewMarkDude, yeah. We run all the redlghts and tend to get high fives from the people in cars, but yelled at by cops06:09
MarkDudeBUT, Oakland is notorious06:09
MarkDudeGoogle Rough Riders06:09
MarkDudethey got matching tattoos06:09
MarkDudeplanted evidence06:09
pleia2is there anything in Oakland that isn't scary? :)06:09
MarkDudeand beat folks regularly06:09
pleia2the California Museum isn't scary! that place is awesome06:09
MarkDudeHIPPIES06:09
pleia2and the A's <306:10
MarkDudethey have lots of those06:10
MarkDudeYes the A;s06:10
pleia2the Raiders are scary :)06:10
* MarkDude was just going to say that06:10
MarkDudelol06:10
pleia2hehe06:10
philipballewBerkley is nice06:11
MarkDudeYes it is06:11
MarkDudeAltho it can be silly06:11
* philipballew didn't get accepted there06:11
pleia2there is a lot of granola there06:11
pleia2:)06:11
bkerensaIm kind of glad the occupation got shut down here... I dont much like income inequality or bailouts but I also didnt like the drug haven our city parks turned into06:12
bkerensa=/06:12
pleia2bkerensa: yeah, there was a lot of vandalism and not cool stuff happening at ours too06:12
bkerensayeah06:12
bkerensaI went down to the parks06:12
bkerensaand have people uhh Linux06:12
bkerensa:)06:12
MarkDudeMy friend was interviewed by detectives from there, for a serious crime. they said he matched th picture- (of a black dude. and my friend is half Filipino, half Irish06:12
philipballewOne day drugs will be legalized and something else will be the new drug06:12
bkerensaand it was a hot mess.... lots of littering... pollution.... drugs... alcohol.... crazy people yelling at media and cops06:13
philipballewI say we make fruit illegal. All the kids will be rebels and eat fruit.06:13
MarkDudelol06:13
bkerensaIllegal Dog Fighting: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bkerensa/6338683191/in/set-72157627710899733/06:13
bkerensait was all bad06:13
pleia2maybe vegetables06:13
philipballewCarrot party!!!06:13
bkerensa:D06:15
pleia2ok, open week starts tomorrow which means I need to get to bed so I can be up early06:15
pleia2good night :)06:16
bkerensagnight06:16
philipballewwho ever invented college finals. I really dislike you right now06:17
daxI feel the same way about whoever invented annotated bibliographies.06:17
MarkDudeLaters pleia206:18
daxalthough at least we get to pick our own sources, so I'm annotating things like K&R and _Free Software, Free Society_06:18
philipballewdax, wanna teach me physics?06:18
daxwhich bit of it?06:18
philipballewhum. Im working on mass vs weight right now06:18
daxah, classical mechanics? that's kinda fun06:19
daxball goes up in air, ball comes down, model using math*06:19
dax* assume that friction, non-vacuums, and things that aren't spheres don't exist06:19
philipballewand then it lands and friction comes into play06:20
bkerensaDarkwing: Does BlueSystems realize that distrowatch rankings are worthless?06:32
daxDistrowatch rankings are extremely useful. When someone cites them as a useful source for distribution userbase, you know not to listen to the rest of their argument \o/06:33
philipballewhow does distrowatch get their numbers?06:35
philipballewId say the biggest dirsto out there is hands down debian06:35
daxphilipballew: page views on distrowatch's site06:36
philipballewbecause its the base of all of ubuntu, linux mint06:36
philipballewdax, I should write s acript to view the gentoo page 100,000 times a day. See if I can make it number 106:37
daxWhen you visit http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mint , it increases the distrowatch ranking for Mint slightly, which leads to people writing articles about Mint being popular on Distrowatch, so people to go Mint's distrowatch page to see, so Mint's distrowatch ranking goes up...06:37
daxsame thing happened with Ubuntu in the past. The site's completely useless for statistical purposes.06:37
philipballewubuntu has more twitter followers06:39
bkerensawait06:40
* philipballew waits06:40
bkerensapleia2 said she was going to bed for open week? but what happened to ask mark06:41
bkerensahttp://ubuntuclassroom.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/ask-mark-on-may-1st-ubuntu-open-week-from-may-2-4/06:41
bkerensathat was supposedly today?06:41
philipballewbkerensa, it happened06:41
philipballew2 to 3 pm06:41
bkerensaphilipballew: oh06:41
bkerensathe blog post was also today so I thought someone got confused06:41
bkerensaphilipballew: what channel was it in?06:41
philipballewbkerensa, you should lead a session tomorow. there is an open slot06:41
bkerensaLOL06:41
bkerensanot a chance06:41
bkerensa:D06:41
* bkerensa will be sleeping like a baby06:42
philipballewwhy not?06:42
bkerensa^06:42
bkerensaI do not wake early :)06:42
philipballewi wake early and stay up late. A bad combo06:42
bkerensaphilipballew: I stay up till like 2-3am06:43
bkerensa:D06:43
bkerensasometimes 5am06:43
philipballewwhat do you do?06:43
bkerensaphilipballew: Various projects06:45
bkerensamostly wordpress dev stuff06:45
philipballewusually If I am up late I am working on my bike or doing something with tools06:46
bkerensaoh06:46
bkerensaI thought you meant for living06:46
bkerensawell most nights.... just hacking on some Juju... reading lots of news.... lots of blog reading06:46
bkerensa:D06:46
philipballewfor a living a fix point Loma Nazarene computer hardware06:48
bkerensaphilipballew: Its funny because I go through weird sleeping phases... Last year I went to bed by 7pm every night and woke at 4am06:48
philipballewBroken mobo, let me fix that06:48
philipballewI just mad a custom ubuntu os that someone is going to put on laptops and give to pastors in Urban LA and also Africa. Its really pumped about it.06:50
philipballews/its/im06:50
philipballewbkerensa, finals week has destroyed my sleep pattern. I will hopefully be able to survive uds with this messed up sleep pattern06:53
daxMy sleep pattern's doing okay, if you discount naps. I've been avoiding caffeine and it seems to be helping.06:54
philipballew6th cup today06:54
daxyeah, see, all that's doing is setting you up to be horribly tired in a few hours06:55
philipballewrrue, but ill manage as long as I get mthrough wednesday06:56
philipballewPhysics final then chem final. Next a precalculas final, followed right after by a Christian Tradition essay I have to type06:57
philipballewabd email by 8pm tomorow06:58
philipballew8and06:58
philipballew*and06:58
philipballewman, my spelling is bad when Im stressed06:59
philipballewI can do it.07:00
philipballewyou should be jealous dax07:03
=== dax is now known as ezri
BigWhaleGreetings.12:17
BigWhaleBefore UDS, I'll arrive at SFO on 5th. Because I want to spend some time in the city before I head to Oakland, I was wondering if there's a place I could store my baggage for the time being? Perhaps at the BART station?12:20
pleia2bkerensa: the blog post was made the night before, which was May 1st UTC time, but not our time ;)14:52
bkerensaahh14:52
pleia2BigWhale: not really :(14:52
BigWhalepleia2, yeah, I noticed. :) I made such a perfect plan for 5th, then my wife screwed it up completely by asking me what will I do with my suitcases ... :>>14:54
pleia2BigWhale: do you know your schedule? I live right downtown and if we can coordinate properly you can drop your stuff off at my place14:54
bkerensa:D14:55
bkerensapleia2: your quite the host offering people so much :)14:55
pleia2bkerensa: it's not much trouble :)14:56
* bkerensa wonders how much trouble it would be to host MarkDude and Co when they come up in June :P14:57
BigWhalepleia2, wow, that would be awesome.14:57
BigWhalepleia2, I land at SFO at 1pm14:57
bkerensapleia2: has it been warm in the Bay Area as of lately?14:57
BigWhalethen I was planning to take BART to err ..14:57
BigWhale.. Powell St.14:57
BigWhaleapparently there's an apple store right there.14:58
pleia2BigWhale: ok, take it one stop further to Montgomery street and walk down New Montgomery street (that will be south of market) then find a coffee shop with wifi (starbucks will have it) and grab me on IRC14:58
pleia2I live at the end of New Montgomery Street, it's 2 long blocks from the station14:58
BigWhalethis sounds like a disaster plan :)))14:58
BigWhalebut I'll remember it.14:59
pleia2bkerensa: oh, re: weather, it was in the 70s over the weekend but it's back down to the typical 50s15:37
pleia2iheartubuntu is doing an open week session on gaming over in #ubuntu-classroom at 9 :)15:47
iheartubuntugod help me15:48
pleia2haha, you'll be fine15:48
iheartubuntui ate some wheaties15:48
BigWhaleat 9_16:25
BigWhale_16:25
BigWhale?16:25
BigWhalewhat timezone? :>16:25
pleia2BigWhale: you're in the California channel :) it's 9:30 here16:29
DonkeyHoteiam16:29
DonkeyHoteii'm guessing the session is pm16:29
pleia2no, it's now16:30
DonkeyHoteioh.16:30
pleia2I would have said 21:00 otherwise ;)16:30
DonkeyHoteii never liked 24hr clocks16:30
ezritry 24-hour clocks set to UTC. It's 1630 right now >.>16:30
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DonkeyHotei/ns info rww16:31
DonkeyHoteioops16:31
DonkeyHoteiheh, someone registered Jadzia in alabama just 3 days ago16:32
iheartubuntuwell that was fun! i wished i had been running lernid to see how it looked17:06
pleia2:)17:07
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MarkDudeDarkwing, are you able to go to the A's game next Thursday?17:53
DarkwingMarkDude: I don't see why not. :D17:53
DarkwingHow much for tix?17:53
MarkDude$417:54
MarkDuderather cheap17:54
MarkDudeand we can also bring foos in17:54
MarkDudeSo its even cheaper17:54
MarkDudeI just found out Thurs is the day the UW is meeting , so that sucks. But I am guessing some of them will be happier if I dont attend ;)17:56
* MarkDude knows he is looked at by some as Feminist Hulk17:56
MarkDudehttps://twitter.com/#!/FEMINISTHULK17:57
pleia2MarkDude: I scheduled it months ago :)17:57
pleia2it's been on our UDS project page and posted to the UW list17:58
pleia2but we only really have 2 evenings to use, so lots of overlap in events was inevitable17:58
pleia2I am sad I can't go to Debian dinner or A's game!17:58
MarkDudepleia2, well, considering how my association with UW stressed a few during my Mark S issue. I think its best this way17:59
* MarkDude loves UW17:59
akkAw, that was a while ago.17:59
pleia2I'm not actually sure who is coming out17:59
MarkDudeAnd needs to keep a bit of distance17:59
MarkDudeIn case Mark S needs his balls squeezed again, shhhhhhh17:59
MarkDudelol17:59
* MarkDude thinks he will be better behaved now18:00
* MarkDude is looking forawrd to to seeing him in person, all joking aside18:00
MarkDudeAnd taking a pic with him, while I am wearing the Beefy Miracle shirt, that will be epic18:01
* MarkDude hopes grantbow will be able to make it also18:04
MarkDudeUDS will be more fun with Dangerous G there18:05
bkerensa=o18:14
philipballewwould opt be the best place to place my own scripts or my ~ folder?20:11
pleia2standard places tend to be /usr/share/local/ or ~/bin20:11
pleia2opt isn't really used on deb-based systems20:11
akkI always put my own stuff in ~/bin20:12
pleia2me too20:12
akkunless I'm testing an installer or deb package.20:12
philipballewalright. and then Ill just set the alias of it so I dont need to set the file path for each time I run it I guess.20:13
philipballewthank you pleia2 and akk20:15
akkphilipballew: Put ~/bin in your path, if it isn't already.20:15
philipballewI need to be more aware of the system differences between debian and other distros20:16
akkI have it first in my path, so my own scripts override anything system-installed.20:16
philipballewThough I joke in here like all other distros are bad, I use other distros.20:16
philipballewakk, so therefore you can write your own system scripts to take the place I see?20:17
philipballewall  prepped for uds akk?20:18
akkNo prep needed for this one (except figuring out how to get there, and I'm still fuzzy on that :)20:20
akkWell, and look at the schedule to figure out what talks to go to, but last time I looked it was still pretty empty.20:21
pleia2unfortunately it doesn't really get populated until about Sunday or so, and it changes throughout the week20:21
pleia2it's all workshops and they tend to expect people to be there the whole time, so a rigid schedule isn't a priority20:22
akkOkay, so set aside several hours Sunday night to look at schedule. Check. :)20:22
philipballewI wish I had time this week, but its finals week.20:22
philipballewSo saturday ill look20:22
akkI don't need rigid, but I need to know "What's the earliest thing I'm absolutely driven to attend tomorrow morning" each day.20:22
akkOnce I'm there I'm flexible, but it'll take an hour and a half minimum to get there.20:23
pleia2yay, the UW session made it on the schedule \o/20:23
pleia2thursday at noon20:23
akkyay! Though that one I already knew about, from your mail.20:23
philipballewakk, are you commuting everyday20:23
akkphilipballew: yes20:24
philipballewThat sounds fun!20:24
akkugh, you can do the commute for me, then :)20:24
pleia2I send too many emails, one was for Ubuntu Open Week tomorrow (so, this Thursday) and the other was for Ubuntu Women dinner (next week, Thursday night)20:24
akkI for one appreciate the emails, pleia220:25
philipballewIs that similar to the one at Scale?20:25
akkVery helpful for keeping track of what's going on!20:25
pleia2too many thursdays :)20:25
* philipballew loves getting emails!20:25
pleia2philipballew: no, we're actually doing proper dinner at my home20:25
philipballewOh wow. That sounds fun!20:26
pleia2wow, the schedule actually does have a fair amount on it already20:29
pleia2oh, right, my UW session for open week is *friday*22:42
pleia2my poor brain, also - woo I don't need to scramble to write it after the girl geek dinner!22:42

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