/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/05/02/#ubuntu-us-or.txt

nathwilloh yeah... sumo00:11
nathwillwhy should i join?00:11
c_smithnathwill, hmmm?00:11
nathwillhey c_smith... was wondering why bkerensa thinks i should join sumo-hackers00:14
c_smithnathwill, lol00:15
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bkerensahi nathwill02:30
nathwillhey bkerensa02:39
nathwillyou're a villain02:40
bkerensanathwill: Of epic proportions02:40
nathwillmassive easter-egg hunt :D02:40
nathwilllolz02:40
bkerensait is spring after all02:40
nathwill:P02:40
nathwillsince i already know half the answers, i'm gonna give myself a 30 minute handicap02:41
bkerensatgm4883: your silly02:41
bkerensa:D02:41
tgm4883:)02:42
tgm4883Gotta love me some contests :)02:42
bkerensanathwill: if it takes anyone 30 mins to do that then uhh idk if they should be using Linux02:42
bkerensa:D02:42
bkerensanathwill: tgm4883 did it in 3 mins02:42
bkerensa:P02:42
nathwilloh snap02:42
tgm4883well I do know everything02:44
tgm4883I had to look most of those up02:44
tgm4883I think I only knew 3, and part of 502:45
bkerensaDinner: http://awesomescreenshot.com/0484pc18e02:45
bkerensabtw what is a acceptable pizza tip anyways especially if its only three blocks away?02:45
bkerensa:P02:45
bkerensaI always drop a $502:45
tgm4883$5 sounds fine to me02:46
bkerensasome of the mom and pop pizza places out here have insane prices02:47
bkerensaUFO Pizza is almost $25 for a pie02:47
bkerensa:(02:47
bkerensaand Hammys is expensive too02:47
cy1That's why I make my own pizza. But it's a challenge to make any kind of dough in colder climates like this...02:48
cy1give a bigger tip if it's only 3 blocks away or they might send someone over to rough you up.02:48
nathwillok, now it's whiskey time02:59
nathwilland salmon hour!03:12
sbeattiebkerensa: flying pie. it's also $25 for a pie, but the thicker crusts ones are like two meals.03:48
pjizzlepegasus or sy's is the pizza of choice in the EUG05:13
bkerensa:D05:13
nathwillwow, the flickr app on android is hella slow to upload...05:15
bkerensanathwill: inform your CEO and ask for the job05:17
bkerensa:P05:17
bkerensademand a All-Hands :P05:17
nathwillno, all-hands are received for the bi-annual occasions when we get a new ceo :P05:18
bkerensalol05:18
bkerensasend the pitch up the internal mailing list :)05:18
bkerensaand hope for no walkout05:18
nathwillyeah, i shoulda just used the native camera app05:20
bkerensanathwill: http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf05:56
nathwilldude, texas is as big as ceres05:58
nathwillha, minecraft world05:59
nathwillthat's awesome05:59
bkerensanathwill: http://i.imgur.com/AizEG.jpg06:15
cy1bkerensa: wut06:57
bkerensacy1: you looking at my horns ^06:58
bkerensacy1: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bkerensa/6342050941/sizes/l/in/set-72157627710899733/06:58
cy1That scale2 thing is... ludicrous...07:15
cy1bkerensa: So what's with the cops I dun' get it. Surveilling them?07:25
bkerensacy1: was from when the camps were still in the parks07:26
cy1...oh07:27
cy1I never got to see that. :/07:27
bkerensajust thought it was funny the guy was wearing fuzzy black horns and a homeland security cop was looking astonished07:27
bkerensa:D07:27
cy1I guess that could be astonished.07:31
cy1Funny looking ski hats have long since divested me of any reaction to odd winter headwear.07:31
hughessdanyone awake? i could use some help....11:12
nibalizerhughessd: with what?11:22
hughessdi am trying to upgrade the company server from 10.04 to 12.0411:23
hughessdand after the reboot it says it can't mount the root partition11:23
hughessdand thank you for replying, nibalizer11:23
nibalizerhughessd: yikes, does it drop you off in a rescue shell or something?11:24
hughessdyes, it gives me the option of typing 'm' for manual recover (as root w/password) or skipping and continuing with the boot,11:24
hughessdwhich fails bc there is no hdd11:24
nibalizeryea11:28
nibalizerdid you go to the manual recovery?11:29
nibalizersounds like we need to lvchange -a y or fsck it or something11:29
hughessdyes, it is just the command line11:29
hughessdi did 'touch /forcefsck'11:30
nibalizerokay11:30
hughessdbut that didn't force it11:30
* nibalizer personally believs forcefsck is lies11:30
nibalizerdid you manually fsck it?11:30
hughessdno i did not11:30
hughessdill try it when it comes up again11:31
nibalizerdid it say 'root did not appear' or 'root had errors'?11:31
hughessdhmmm11:31
nibalizeri keep getting bit by this weird behiavior where the logical volume gets all deactivated11:31
hughessdhere is what I can glean11:31
hughessdthe first line at the top of the a screen says "root file system check failed"11:32
hughessdbut that is only what didn't get pushed off the screen11:32
nibalizereh no worries11:32
nibalizerget back to the emergency shell and fsck it11:32
nibalizerI can talk you through that if you need11:32
hughessdthen when i cat /etc/fstab it has '/dev/sda1 on / ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr)'11:33
hughessdso the hd is being mounted,11:33
hughessdjust not in time for the xserver or whatever is drawing the screen to catch it and make use of it11:33
hughessdok11:33
hughessdso if you think the next step is fsck, i'm ready to go11:34
hughessdi should unmount first, right?11:34
nibalizeruh11:36
nibalizerhrm11:36
nibalizerso it sounds like you have your root filesystem11:37
nibalizerwhat does 'mount' show you11:37
hughessdmount gives11:38
hughessdaw crap11:40
hughessddid it not send all that i just typed11:40
hughessdcurses11:40
nibalizeruh oh11:40
hughessdoh well11:40
hughessdmount has11:40
hughessddev/sda111:40
nibalizerthe point is what is / mounted on?11:40
nibalizerer what is mounted on /11:41
hughessdah i get it ,i  can't put a slash in front of things...11:41
hughessdgrrr11:41
nibalizerhaha11:41
hughessdim not good at irc11:41
nibalizerif you double // it lets you11:41
nibalizer/hai11:41
nibalizeror [space]/11:41
nibalizer /hai11:41
hughessdexact line is;11:41
hughessd/dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_attr)11:42
nibalizerso yea, you have your root, ubuntu just wants you to fsck it11:42
nibalizerif you unmount root you're gonna have a bad time though11:43
nibalizerdo you have a liveCD or something?11:43
hughessdum11:44
hughessdmaybe11:44
hughessdi think i have a liveUSB around,11:44
nibalizerif /forcefsck isn't doing it for it11:45
hughessdand at least some old old liveCDs around11:45
hughessdok, hang on a sec while i go search around....11:45
nibalizerwhat does 'fsck.ext3 -n /dev/sda1` show?11:46
hughessd/dev/sda1: clean,11:49
hughessd2330372/14606336 files,11:49
hughessd37492553/58418356 blocks11:50
nibalizerhi11:50
nibalizerso it looks, like, good11:51
nibalizerand on reboots it complians that you've got a bad / ?11:52
hughessdyes11:52
hughessdthere is probably a way to get more error messages but I can't seem to find them11:53
hughessdbesides /var/log/syslog11:53
hughessdand kern.log11:53
hughessdi founda live usb if that helps11:53
nibalizeryea prolly reboot into liveusb11:55
nibalizerthen more diagnostics we will perform11:56
nibalizerhow long did you get for a downtime window11:56
hughessdi have until 7 or 8 perhaps11:57
hughessdill get it booted in to the live distro11:57
nibalizerokay11:57
hughessdhm it's saying cd rom drive not found12:02
hughessdi have both cd rom and usb live distros...12:03
hughessdi turned on all ata drives in the BIOS12:04
hughessdfingers crossed12:04
hughessdhm12:05
hughessdnot working12:06
nibalizerfuuuu12:06
hughessdthis is no bueno12:06
nibalizeryea12:06
hughessdim going to stick the usb in to see if that's recognized12:06
nibalizerokay12:07
hughessdim workign with a Dell PowerEdge 1950 Server12:07
hughessdif that helps at all12:07
nibalizeri have no idea what to do really12:07
nibalizeri think you should ask on ubuntu-server as well as here12:07
hughessdok,12:08
hughessdi asked in the regular ubuntu room and they ignored me12:08
hughessdthis is weird12:14
hughessdit says / isn't ready12:14
hughessdso i push S12:14
hughessdthen it says /tmp isn't ready12:14
hughessdso i push S12:14
hughessdthen it says UUID = blahblahblah sin't ready (which is the swap)12:14
hughessdwtf is going on, is it just thinking that nothing is ready?12:14
hughessdok the liveUSB is working....12:19
nibalizerthis is no good12:21
nibalizerfsck everything12:21
hughessdok12:21
hughessdthe USB is plugged in, i went into BIOS to make sure its in the boot sequence12:21
nibalizerfsck the ubuntu drives12:22
hughessdthe server is rebooted and it gets to the Unetbootin Screen12:22
hughessdso i just choose 'check disk'12:22
nibalizerwoot12:22
nibalizerno wit12:23
nibalizercheck disk is like verify the usb driev12:23
hughessd"check disc for defects"12:23
nibalizerboot off the usb drive12:23
hughessdyeah12:23
hughessdthat's what i figured..12:23
hughessdok12:23
hughessdTrying Ubuntu w/o installing....12:23
hughessdok, desktop now12:24
hughessdsince im in the usb12:25
hughessddo i have to chroot to the other file system?12:25
nibalizerdon't have to chroot12:26
nibalizerjust echo /dev/sd*12:26
nibalizerfigure out which ones are the ubuntu fses12:27
nibalizerand fsck12:27
hughessdsda, sda1, sda2, sda512:28
hughessdim guessing sda112:28
nibalizeryea12:30
hughessdhm12:31
hughessdsudo fsck /dev/sda112:31
hughessde2fsck 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010)12:31
hughessd/dev/sda1: clean , #/# files, #/# blocks12:32
nibalizerhrm12:32
nibalizertry the other ones too12:32
hughessdsda2 said "Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open" " could this be a zero-length partition"12:33
hughessd?12:33
* nibalizer shrugs12:35
nibalizeri got nothing12:35
hughessdhm12:35
hughessdill try to other one12:35
nibalizerif it passes fsck then its clean12:35
nibalizerwhy would ubuntu not let it boot12:35
nibalizeris there anything relevant in dmesg /var/log/syslolg /var/log/messages?12:36
hughessdsda1 is clean, sda2 is zero size and sda5 is sqp12:36
hughessdswap12:36
nibalizerhrm12:36
pjizzlesorry hughessd!14:30
hughessd:)14:31
hughessdif you're here to help then no need to apologize14:31
hughessdim at wits end....14:31
pjizzlewell, in my many failed linux installs and upgrades, i've never encountered that14:32
pjizzlepost on ubuntuforums.org and wait a few days...someone can help no doubt14:33
hughessd...14:34
hughessdthis is the company LTSP server14:34
hughessdmany people need this to work today14:34
hughessdive been here since 11pm last night14:34
hughessdthis was...unforeseen14:34
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bkerensahi nathwill18:16
bkerensanathwill: You cant grab all the charms :P18:16
nathwilleh?18:16
nathwilli grabbed 2?18:16
nathwilli think there are many more pieces of software...18:17
bkerensai know... I just need moar for this contest18:17
bkerensa:D18:17
nathwilli'm just trying to make things more complicated for the people in the contest18:17
nathwillmake them earn those prizes18:17
bkerensamy landlord offered me a entire month rent if I painted the unit next door18:17
bkerensalulz18:17
bkerensaNot a chance was the response18:17
bkerensa:P18:17
nathwillhaha18:19
nathwilllots o' work18:19
bkerensa:) Yeah and so far I have not paid full rent for the last three months18:20
bkerensasince I have been doing improvements which I bill him for18:20
bkerensa:P18:20
nathwillnice18:22
nathwillugh, home inspection just came through18:39
nathwillmaking the house smell like salmon last night may not have been my best idea...18:39
bkerensaLOL18:40
bkerensanathwill: :) what did they have to say?18:40
bkerensa:P18:40
nathwillnothing.18:40
nathwillthey came in, wandered around, and left18:41
nathwillit took all of about 3min18:41
nathwillbut we'll see if i get a letter18:41
nathwillour office is a disaster, because we're reorganizing everything18:41
keesnathwill: you going to UDS?18:41
nathwillkees: nope. i'd like to, but can't really afford to, we're saving for a down payment on a house18:42
bkerensanathwill: apply for membership then apply for sponsorship next cycle?18:42
* bkerensa will likely not go next cycle18:42
bkerensa:P18:42
nathwillbkerensa: yes, i plan on applying for membership soon. you've convinced me that Ubuntu Membership is not like membership in the Hitler Jugend18:43
bkerensa;p18:43
bkerensamaybe I will be on the membership board when you apply18:44
bkerensaheh18:44
bkerensa:D18:44
nathwillhaha, that'd be cool18:44
bkerensanathwill: not for you :P because I would not vote18:45
bkerensanathwill: members get a fancy lwn.net premium acct18:46
bkerensaand a sixxs.net acct like slangasek has although they declined me one =/18:46
sbeattiebkerensa: he.net will give out ipv6 allocations for free.18:47
sbeattieand they're not as.... idiosyncratic in who they choose to give them out to as sixxs.net18:47
slangasekoh, are sixxs being stingy now?18:48
bkerensathey said my proof of address was insufficient18:48
bkerensa=/18:48
slangasekwat18:48
slangasekI don't remember being asked for my address18:49
bkerensawell when I registered they said my ip's geolocation did not match the address I provided or something18:52
bkerensathen asked me for a copy of my photo id and mail and my photo ID is still a California so yeah idk18:52
nathwillhe.net is the way to go18:52
bkerensawas not worth the hassle18:53
bkerensa:P18:53
bkerensanathwill: I got one setup just now but no idea how to create the tunnel from Ubuntu18:53
bkerensa:D18:53
bkerensawhere can I RTFM?18:53
nathwillthey has instructions...18:53
nathwillthey has whole series of task-based tutorials18:53
nathwillvery cool18:53
bkerensanathwill: have you checked out the iTwin?18:55
nathwillis that the magical usb cloner thing?18:55
nathwillyeah, it looks pretty cool... have doubts about it working with linux18:56
nathwillin linux that technology is called "scp"18:56
bkerensanathwill: MBA is sending me some :D18:56
bkerensaThey are also sending me Verbatims new V3 Thumbdrives which are USB 3.018:56
nathwillah. lemme know how it works out... if it works between linux and windows boxes without too much hair-pulling, i might get some for me and the wife18:56
nathwillslick.18:57
bkerensathe wife uses redmond products18:57
bkerensa>.<18:57
nathwillyeah... mine too18:58
bkerensashe was going strong on Ubuntu for awhile but Unity on 11.04 was killing the buzz18:59
bkerensaanyways I better get ready.... My mum is coming to help me plant flowers in front and a bunch of veggies on the patio18:59
nathwillsweet. enjoy18:59
nibalizerhughessd: figure it out?22:52
hughessdnope22:52
hughessdim trying to figure out to to save the data and reinstall the LTSP environment22:52
hughessdi haven't been able to figure out what could be keeping the system from booting if the hd is recognized as clean after a fsck22:54
bkerensa>.<23:49
bkerensai kno u has wat going on the firefox way you kno fix it k?23:50
bkerensahaz not works five yars!23:50

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