[00:11] <nathwill> oh yeah... sumo
[00:11] <nathwill> why should i join?
[00:11] <c_smith> nathwill, hmmm?
[00:14] <nathwill> hey c_smith... was wondering why bkerensa thinks i should join sumo-hackers
[00:15] <c_smith> nathwill, lol
[02:30] <bkerensa> hi nathwill
[02:39] <nathwill> hey bkerensa
[02:40] <nathwill> you're a villain
[02:40] <bkerensa> nathwill: Of epic proportions
[02:40] <nathwill> massive easter-egg hunt :D
[02:40] <nathwill> lolz
[02:40] <bkerensa> it is spring after all
[02:40] <nathwill> :P
[02:41] <nathwill> since i already know half the answers, i'm gonna give myself a 30 minute handicap
[02:41] <bkerensa> tgm4883: your silly
[02:41] <bkerensa> :D
[02:42] <tgm4883> :)
[02:42] <tgm4883> Gotta love me some contests :)
[02:42] <bkerensa> nathwill: if it takes anyone 30 mins to do that then uhh idk if they should be using Linux
[02:42] <bkerensa> :D
[02:42] <bkerensa> nathwill: tgm4883 did it in 3 mins
[02:42] <bkerensa> :P
[02:42] <nathwill> oh snap
[02:44] <tgm4883> well I do know everything
[02:44] <tgm4883> I had to look most of those up
[02:45] <tgm4883> I think I only knew 3, and part of 5
[02:45] <bkerensa> Dinner: http://awesomescreenshot.com/0484pc18e
[02:45] <bkerensa> btw what is a acceptable pizza tip anyways especially if its only three blocks away?
[02:45] <bkerensa> :P
[02:45] <bkerensa> I always drop a $5
[02:46] <tgm4883> $5 sounds fine to me
[02:47] <bkerensa> some of the mom and pop pizza places out here have insane prices
[02:47] <bkerensa> UFO Pizza is almost $25 for a pie
[02:47] <bkerensa> :(
[02:47] <bkerensa> and Hammys is expensive too
[02:48] <cy1> That's why I make my own pizza. But it's a challenge to make any kind of dough in colder climates like this...
[02:48] <cy1> give a bigger tip if it's only 3 blocks away or they might send someone over to rough you up.
[02:59] <nathwill> ok, now it's whiskey time
[03:12] <nathwill> and salmon hour!
[03:48] <sbeattie> bkerensa: flying pie. it's also $25 for a pie, but the thicker crusts ones are like two meals.
[05:13] <pjizzle> pegasus or sy's is the pizza of choice in the EUG
[05:13] <bkerensa> :D
[05:15] <nathwill> wow, the flickr app on android is hella slow to upload...
[05:17] <bkerensa> nathwill: inform your CEO and ask for the job
[05:17] <bkerensa> :P
[05:17] <bkerensa> demand a All-Hands :P
[05:18] <nathwill> no, all-hands are received for the bi-annual occasions when we get a new ceo :P
[05:18] <bkerensa> lol
[05:18] <bkerensa> send the pitch up the internal mailing list :)
[05:18] <bkerensa> and hope for no walkout
[05:20] <nathwill> yeah, i shoulda just used the native camera app
[05:56] <bkerensa> nathwill: http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf
[05:58] <nathwill> dude, texas is as big as ceres
[05:59] <nathwill> ha, minecraft world
[05:59] <nathwill> that's awesome
[06:15] <bkerensa> nathwill: http://i.imgur.com/AizEG.jpg
[06:57] <cy1> bkerensa: wut
[06:58] <bkerensa> cy1: you looking at my horns ^
[06:58] <bkerensa> cy1: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bkerensa/6342050941/sizes/l/in/set-72157627710899733/
[07:15] <cy1> That scale2 thing is... ludicrous...
[07:25] <cy1> bkerensa: So what's with the cops I dun' get it. Surveilling them?
[07:26] <bkerensa> cy1: was from when the camps were still in the parks
[07:27] <cy1> ...oh
[07:27] <cy1> I never got to see that. :/
[07:27] <bkerensa> just thought it was funny the guy was wearing fuzzy black horns and a homeland security cop was looking astonished
[07:27] <bkerensa> :D
[07:31] <cy1> I guess that could be astonished.
[07:31] <cy1> Funny looking ski hats have long since divested me of any reaction to odd winter headwear.
[11:12] <hughessd> anyone awake? i could use some help....
[11:22] <nibalizer> hughessd: with what?
[11:23] <hughessd> i am trying to upgrade the company server from 10.04 to 12.04
[11:23] <hughessd> and after the reboot it says it can't mount the root partition
[11:23] <hughessd> and thank you for replying, nibalizer
[11:24] <nibalizer> hughessd: yikes, does it drop you off in a rescue shell or something?
[11:24] <hughessd> yes, it gives me the option of typing 'm' for manual recover (as root w/password) or skipping and continuing with the boot,
[11:24] <hughessd> which fails bc there is no hdd
[11:28] <nibalizer> yea
[11:29] <nibalizer> did you go to the manual recovery?
[11:29] <nibalizer> sounds like we need to lvchange -a y or fsck it or something
[11:29] <hughessd> yes, it is just the command line
[11:30] <hughessd> i did 'touch /forcefsck'
[11:30] <nibalizer> okay
[11:30] <hughessd> but that didn't force it
[11:30]  * nibalizer personally believs forcefsck is lies
[11:30] <nibalizer> did you manually fsck it?
[11:30] <hughessd> no i did not
[11:31] <hughessd> ill try it when it comes up again
[11:31] <nibalizer> did it say 'root did not appear' or 'root had errors'?
[11:31] <hughessd> hmmm
[11:31] <nibalizer> i keep getting bit by this weird behiavior where the logical volume gets all deactivated
[11:31] <hughessd> here is what I can glean
[11:32] <hughessd> the first line at the top of the a screen says "root file system check failed"
[11:32] <hughessd> but that is only what didn't get pushed off the screen
[11:32] <nibalizer> eh no worries
[11:32] <nibalizer> get back to the emergency shell and fsck it
[11:32] <nibalizer> I can talk you through that if you need
[11:33] <hughessd> then when i cat /etc/fstab it has '/dev/sda1 on / ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr)'
[11:33] <hughessd> so the hd is being mounted,
[11:33] <hughessd> just not in time for the xserver or whatever is drawing the screen to catch it and make use of it
[11:33] <hughessd> ok
[11:34] <hughessd> so if you think the next step is fsck, i'm ready to go
[11:34] <hughessd> i should unmount first, right?
[11:36] <nibalizer> uh
[11:36] <nibalizer> hrm
[11:37] <nibalizer> so it sounds like you have your root filesystem
[11:37] <nibalizer> what does 'mount' show you
[11:38] <hughessd> mount gives
[11:40] <hughessd> aw crap
[11:40] <hughessd> did it not send all that i just typed
[11:40] <hughessd> curses
[11:40] <nibalizer> uh oh
[11:40] <hughessd> oh well
[11:40] <hughessd> mount has
[11:40] <hughessd> dev/sda1
[11:40] <nibalizer> the point is what is / mounted on?
[11:41] <nibalizer> er what is mounted on /
[11:41] <hughessd> ah i get it ,i  can't put a slash in front of things...
[11:41] <hughessd> grrr
[11:41] <nibalizer> haha
[11:41] <hughessd> im not good at irc
[11:41] <nibalizer> if you double // it lets you
[11:41] <nibalizer> /hai
[11:41] <nibalizer> or [space]/
[11:41] <nibalizer>  /hai
[11:41] <hughessd> exact line is;
[11:42] <hughessd> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_attr)
[11:42] <nibalizer> so yea, you have your root, ubuntu just wants you to fsck it
[11:43] <nibalizer> if you unmount root you're gonna have a bad time though
[11:43] <nibalizer> do you have a liveCD or something?
[11:44] <hughessd> um
[11:44] <hughessd> maybe
[11:44] <hughessd> i think i have a liveUSB around,
[11:45] <nibalizer> if /forcefsck isn't doing it for it
[11:45] <hughessd> and at least some old old liveCDs around
[11:45] <hughessd> ok, hang on a sec while i go search around....
[11:46] <nibalizer> what does 'fsck.ext3 -n /dev/sda1` show?
[11:49] <hughessd> /dev/sda1: clean,
[11:49] <hughessd> 2330372/14606336 files,
[11:50] <hughessd> 37492553/58418356 blocks
[11:50] <nibalizer> hi
[11:51] <nibalizer> so it looks, like, good
[11:52] <nibalizer> and on reboots it complians that you've got a bad / ?
[11:52] <hughessd> yes
[11:53] <hughessd> there is probably a way to get more error messages but I can't seem to find them
[11:53] <hughessd> besides /var/log/syslog
[11:53] <hughessd> and kern.log
[11:53] <hughessd> i founda live usb if that helps
[11:55] <nibalizer> yea prolly reboot into liveusb
[11:56] <nibalizer> then more diagnostics we will perform
[11:56] <nibalizer> how long did you get for a downtime window
[11:57] <hughessd> i have until 7 or 8 perhaps
[11:57] <hughessd> ill get it booted in to the live distro
[11:57] <nibalizer> okay
[12:02] <hughessd> hm it's saying cd rom drive not found
[12:03] <hughessd> i have both cd rom and usb live distros...
[12:04] <hughessd> i turned on all ata drives in the BIOS
[12:04] <hughessd> fingers crossed
[12:05] <hughessd> hm
[12:06] <hughessd> not working
[12:06] <nibalizer> fuuuu
[12:06] <hughessd> this is no bueno
[12:06] <nibalizer> yea
[12:06] <hughessd> im going to stick the usb in to see if that's recognized
[12:07] <nibalizer> okay
[12:07] <hughessd> im workign with a Dell PowerEdge 1950 Server
[12:07] <hughessd> if that helps at all
[12:07] <nibalizer> i have no idea what to do really
[12:07] <nibalizer> i think you should ask on ubuntu-server as well as here
[12:08] <hughessd> ok,
[12:08] <hughessd> i asked in the regular ubuntu room and they ignored me
[12:14] <hughessd> this is weird
[12:14] <hughessd> it says / isn't ready
[12:14] <hughessd> so i push S
[12:14] <hughessd> then it says /tmp isn't ready
[12:14] <hughessd> so i push S
[12:14] <hughessd> then it says UUID = blahblahblah sin't ready (which is the swap)
[12:14] <hughessd> wtf is going on, is it just thinking that nothing is ready?
[12:19] <hughessd> ok the liveUSB is working....
[12:21] <nibalizer> this is no good
[12:21] <nibalizer> fsck everything
[12:21] <hughessd> ok
[12:21] <hughessd> the USB is plugged in, i went into BIOS to make sure its in the boot sequence
[12:22] <nibalizer> fsck the ubuntu drives
[12:22] <hughessd> the server is rebooted and it gets to the Unetbootin Screen
[12:22] <hughessd> so i just choose 'check disk'
[12:22] <nibalizer> woot
[12:23] <nibalizer> no wit
[12:23] <nibalizer> check disk is like verify the usb driev
[12:23] <hughessd> "check disc for defects"
[12:23] <nibalizer> boot off the usb drive
[12:23] <hughessd> yeah
[12:23] <hughessd> that's what i figured..
[12:23] <hughessd> ok
[12:23] <hughessd> Trying Ubuntu w/o installing....
[12:24] <hughessd> ok, desktop now
[12:25] <hughessd> since im in the usb
[12:25] <hughessd> do i have to chroot to the other file system?
[12:26] <nibalizer> don't have to chroot
[12:26] <nibalizer> just echo /dev/sd*
[12:27] <nibalizer> figure out which ones are the ubuntu fses
[12:27] <nibalizer> and fsck
[12:28] <hughessd> sda, sda1, sda2, sda5
[12:28] <hughessd> im guessing sda1
[12:30] <nibalizer> yea
[12:31] <hughessd> hm
[12:31] <hughessd> sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[12:31] <hughessd> e2fsck 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010)
[12:32] <hughessd> /dev/sda1: clean , #/# files, #/# blocks
[12:32] <nibalizer> hrm
[12:32] <nibalizer> try the other ones too
[12:33] <hughessd> sda2 said "Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open" " could this be a zero-length partition"
[12:33] <hughessd> ?
[12:35]  * nibalizer shrugs
[12:35] <nibalizer> i got nothing
[12:35] <hughessd> hm
[12:35] <hughessd> ill try to other one
[12:35] <nibalizer> if it passes fsck then its clean
[12:35] <nibalizer> why would ubuntu not let it boot
[12:36] <nibalizer> is there anything relevant in dmesg /var/log/syslolg /var/log/messages?
[12:36] <hughessd> sda1 is clean, sda2 is zero size and sda5 is sqp
[12:36] <hughessd> swap
[12:36] <nibalizer> hrm
[14:30] <pjizzle> sorry hughessd!
[14:31] <hughessd> :)
[14:31] <hughessd> if you're here to help then no need to apologize
[14:31] <hughessd> im at wits end....
[14:32] <pjizzle> well, in my many failed linux installs and upgrades, i've never encountered that
[14:33] <pjizzle> post on ubuntuforums.org and wait a few days...someone can help no doubt
[14:34] <hughessd> ...
[14:34] <hughessd> this is the company LTSP server
[14:34] <hughessd> many people need this to work today
[14:34] <hughessd> ive been here since 11pm last night
[14:34] <hughessd> this was...unforeseen
[18:16] <bkerensa> hi nathwill
[18:16] <bkerensa> nathwill: You cant grab all the charms :P
[18:16] <nathwill> eh?
[18:16] <nathwill> i grabbed 2?
[18:17] <nathwill> i think there are many more pieces of software...
[18:17] <bkerensa> i know... I just need moar for this contest
[18:17] <bkerensa> :D
[18:17] <nathwill> i'm just trying to make things more complicated for the people in the contest
[18:17] <nathwill> make them earn those prizes
[18:17] <bkerensa> my landlord offered me a entire month rent if I painted the unit next door
[18:17] <bkerensa> lulz
[18:17] <bkerensa> Not a chance was the response
[18:17] <bkerensa> :P
[18:19] <nathwill> haha
[18:19] <nathwill> lots o' work
[18:20] <bkerensa> :) Yeah and so far I have not paid full rent for the last three months
[18:20] <bkerensa> since I have been doing improvements which I bill him for
[18:20] <bkerensa> :P
[18:22] <nathwill> nice
[18:39] <nathwill> ugh, home inspection just came through
[18:39] <nathwill> making the house smell like salmon last night may not have been my best idea...
[18:40] <bkerensa> LOL
[18:40] <bkerensa> nathwill: :) what did they have to say?
[18:40] <bkerensa> :P
[18:40] <nathwill> nothing.
[18:41] <nathwill> they came in, wandered around, and left
[18:41] <nathwill> it took all of about 3min
[18:41] <nathwill> but we'll see if i get a letter
[18:41] <nathwill> our office is a disaster, because we're reorganizing everything
[18:41] <kees> nathwill: you going to UDS?
[18:42] <nathwill> kees: nope. i'd like to, but can't really afford to, we're saving for a down payment on a house
[18:42] <bkerensa> nathwill: apply for membership then apply for sponsorship next cycle?
[18:42]  * bkerensa will likely not go next cycle
[18:42] <bkerensa> :P
[18:43] <nathwill> bkerensa: yes, i plan on applying for membership soon. you've convinced me that Ubuntu Membership is not like membership in the Hitler Jugend
[18:43] <bkerensa> ;p
[18:44] <bkerensa> maybe I will be on the membership board when you apply
[18:44] <bkerensa> heh
[18:44] <bkerensa> :D
[18:44] <nathwill> haha, that'd be cool
[18:45] <bkerensa> nathwill: not for you :P because I would not vote
[18:46] <bkerensa> nathwill: members get a fancy lwn.net premium acct
[18:46] <bkerensa> and a sixxs.net acct like slangasek has although they declined me one =/
[18:47] <sbeattie> bkerensa: he.net will give out ipv6 allocations for free.
[18:47] <sbeattie> and they're not as.... idiosyncratic in who they choose to give them out to as sixxs.net
[18:48] <slangasek> oh, are sixxs being stingy now?
[18:48] <bkerensa> they said my proof of address was insufficient
[18:48] <bkerensa> =/
[18:48] <slangasek> wat
[18:49] <slangasek> I don't remember being asked for my address
[18:52] <bkerensa> well when I registered they said my ip's geolocation did not match the address I provided or something
[18:52] <bkerensa> then asked me for a copy of my photo id and mail and my photo ID is still a California so yeah idk
[18:52] <nathwill> he.net is the way to go
[18:53] <bkerensa> was not worth the hassle
[18:53] <bkerensa> :P
[18:53] <bkerensa> nathwill: I got one setup just now but no idea how to create the tunnel from Ubuntu
[18:53] <bkerensa> :D
[18:53] <bkerensa> where can I RTFM?
[18:53] <nathwill> they has instructions...
[18:53] <nathwill> they has whole series of task-based tutorials
[18:53] <nathwill> very cool
[18:55] <bkerensa> nathwill: have you checked out the iTwin?
[18:55] <nathwill> is that the magical usb cloner thing?
[18:56] <nathwill> yeah, it looks pretty cool... have doubts about it working with linux
[18:56] <nathwill> in linux that technology is called "scp"
[18:56] <bkerensa> nathwill: MBA is sending me some :D
[18:56] <bkerensa> They are also sending me Verbatims new V3 Thumbdrives which are USB 3.0
[18:56] <nathwill> ah. lemme know how it works out... if it works between linux and windows boxes without too much hair-pulling, i might get some for me and the wife
[18:57] <nathwill> slick.
[18:57] <bkerensa> the wife uses redmond products
[18:57] <bkerensa> >.<
[18:58] <nathwill> yeah... mine too
[18:59] <bkerensa> she was going strong on Ubuntu for awhile but Unity on 11.04 was killing the buzz
[18:59] <bkerensa> anyways I better get ready.... My mum is coming to help me plant flowers in front and a bunch of veggies on the patio
[18:59] <nathwill> sweet. enjoy
[22:52] <nibalizer> hughessd: figure it out?
[22:52] <hughessd> nope
[22:52] <hughessd> im trying to figure out to to save the data and reinstall the LTSP environment
[22:54] <hughessd> i haven't been able to figure out what could be keeping the system from booting if the hd is recognized as clean after a fsck
[23:49] <bkerensa> >.<
[23:50] <bkerensa> i kno u has wat going on the firefox way you kno fix it k?
[23:50] <bkerensa> haz not works five yars!