[03:14] <Sadin> in love.... http://c9.io/
[03:14] <PennBot> Title: Cloud9 IDE | Online IDE Your code anywhere, anytime (at c9.io)
[05:27] <andrew> JonathanD: I don't think I managed to get a decent picture of the actual bears we saw.
[05:28] <andrew> JonathanD: Any plans for another geeknic++ on a weekend I can make it?
[05:28] <andrew> (Typically the third weekend of any given month is bad.)
[09:43] <rmg51> Morning
[10:09] <JonathanD> andrew: trying.
[10:09] <JonathanD> I haven't been able to gather much interest yet..
[10:25] <JonathanD> Good morning.
[10:40] <rmg51> o/
[11:00] <JonathanD> hey rmg51
[11:23] <rmg51> bye JonathanD
[11:23] <rmg51> off to work
[12:03] <waltman> *YAWN*
[12:32]  * InHisName #Yawns#   Too
[13:13] <JonathanD> Installing 12.04. Wish me luck.
[13:13] <jedijf> no luck needed, just pae
[13:15] <JonathanD> My laptop caught on fire!
[13:15] <JonathanD> Not again
[13:20] <InHisName> you still own one of those FLAMING laptops from several years ago ?   You never claimed the replacement battery offered during the recall ?
[13:21] <JonathanD> install failed.
[13:22] <InHisName> well its toast now
[13:23] <JonathanD> lets try that again...
[13:23] <InHisName> didja use a fire extinguisher or just toss it out in the street till it exhausted the fire?
[13:23] <JonathanD> I spit on it.
[13:29] <JonathanD> fail #2
[13:29] <JonathanD> thats enough for this morning.
[14:10] <InHisName> so it's not really totaled into toast yet, JonathanD?
[14:10] <JonathanD> right.
[14:27] <InHisName> I got a problem with my 11.10.  When it tries the updates, every thing goes well until the end when it gives me an error.   It's pasted here: http://pastebin.com/8Haw1wk4
[14:27] <PennBot> Title: ubuntu update failed but all updated ? why? - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
[14:28] <ssweeny> InHisName, line 108: gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[14:28] <ssweeny> there's your problem right there
[14:29] <InHisName> that's /boot
[14:30] <InHisName> what can I remove from /boot   that I wont be needing ?     how many older versions of kernels do I need for 11.10 ?
[14:36] <ssweeny> InHisName, if the latest kernel works for you then you can remove all the older ones
[14:37] <InHisName> How to view the boot options screen without booting ?  viewing text ok.
[14:38] <InHisName> Maybe there are older ones than in boot options
[14:39] <ssweeny> InHisName, /boot/grub/grub.cfg has the list. every line that starts with menuentry is an entry on that screen
[14:40] <InHisName> ok I'll look
[14:45] <InHisName> I got bunches of them.  about 11 diff ones.
[14:47] <InHisName> what is best way to trim out and keep last 4 or so.     rm 26.28.* etc. or some grub way ?  The rm....wouldn't fix grub
[15:03] <ssweeny> InHisName, you want to remove the kernel packages
[15:07] <ChinnoDog> sup turkey
[15:10] <ssweeny> InHisName, the easiest way to get rid of the old kernel packages is probably to use synaptic and look for the 'local or obsolete' status
[15:41] <MutantTurkey> sup
[15:42] <passstab> you feel like crap
[15:42] <MutantTurkey> yep
[15:42] <MutantTurkey> basically
[15:42] <passstab>  head colds + probably ear infection sucks
[15:42] <MutantTurkey> i hope you're not typing that all out
[15:42] <MutantTurkey> rather inefficient?
[15:42] <passstab>  terrible headache as well
[15:42] <passstab> and finals tomorrow -_-
[15:43] <passstab> how else would i do this?
[15:43] <MutantTurkey> imagine if I copied you
[15:43] <MutantTurkey> then we'd have some sort of recursion
[15:44] <passstab> you asked sup
[15:44] <passstab> i answered
[15:45] <MutantTurkey> you asked sup
[15:45] <MutantTurkey> i answered
[15:45] <MutantTurkey> :-)
[15:47] <passstab> this is why boredom is important
[15:52] <MutantTurkey> yes
[15:55] <InHisName> trying to install  deb file for ubuntu-tweak, get error  -- dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ubuntu-tweak:python-lxml and gir1.2-unique-3.0 are not installed  [15:57] <passstab> ppa?
[16:02] <passstab> IDK
[16:03] <EvilResistance> InHisName:  install those packages?
[16:03] <InHisName> EvilResistance: are they really packages and not libs or something else ?
[16:04] <EvilResistance> PASTE:
[16:04] <EvilResistance> <EvilResistance> !info python-lxml precise
[16:04] <EvilResistance> <ubottu> python-lxml (source: lxml): pythonic binding for the libxml2 and libxslt libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3.2-1 (precise), package size 599 kB, installed size 2000 kB
[16:04] <EvilResistance> <EvilResistance> !info gir1.2-unique-3.0 precise
[16:04] <EvilResistance> <ubottu> gir1.2-unique-3.0 (source: libunique3): GObject introspection data for the Unique library. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.2-1 (precise), package size 3 kB, installed size 67 kB
[16:04] <EvilResistance> those're packages :)
[16:04] <InHisName> so's can I use apt-get for them ?   or do I need to use a xx.deb ?
[16:04] <EvilResistance> InHisName:  and of course those are packages, if you're installing from a .deb you downloaded, then dpkg is returning that the Required: line's packages aren't installed
[16:04] <EvilResistance> APT-GET
[16:05] <EvilResistance> how many years have you been using Debian/Ubuntu again?
[16:05] <InHisName> ok, will go for it.
[16:05] <EvilResistance> (also, when you do !info [package] precise, it checks the current repos :P
[16:05] <EvilResistance> )
[16:06] <EvilResistance> (sorry if i seem overly defensive, Precise is giving me all sorts of crap)
[16:40] <InHisName> managed to get all the parts installed and run ubuntu-tweak  --> now have freed 21MB from /boot   lunch first.
[17:51] <InHisName> Ok, I now have space on /boot again.
[17:52] <InHisName> BUT, I am not booting with 3.0.0.17 but with 2.6.38.11 or whatever that last digit was.
[17:54] <InHisName> I have 3.0.011 thru 17  but none are booting only the old one is.   How to fix  all are in /boot.   I did ->sudo update-grub  before rebooting.
[18:34] <InHisName> tried running    sudo update-grub   again and rebooted     STILL shows 2.6.38-11
[19:10] <n2diy_> I'm trying to get qtel to work, but when I start it from the cli I'm getting a "no such file or directory" error. I googled the problem, and set alsa as my default sound device, but still no go, ideas?
[19:13] <InHisName> is grup v1.99 NOT same as grub2 ?
[19:13] <InHisName> s/grup/grub/
[19:19] <passstab> i believe that is correct
[19:20] <passstab> no it is the same
[19:20] <passstab> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:20] <PennBot> Title: Grub2 - Community Ubuntu Documentation (at help.ubuntu.com)
[19:40] <ChinnoDog> hi ssweeny
[19:40] <ssweeny> hi ChinnoDog
[19:46] <InHisName> On bootup, I see at top:   1.99   13ubuntu3              [19:46] <InHisName> Do I have 2 boot areas.  One that boots and other that is seen by grub-install ?
[19:50] <passstab> that sounds like a reasonable hypothesis
[19:58] <InHisName> so how to have grub-install etc operate on the bootable one instead ?
[19:58] <EvilResistance> tell it where to install to?
[19:59] <EvilResistance> or change which partition has the boot flag
[20:02] <n2diy_> I'm trying to setup a voip app, and I think I may have a conflict with another app using the audio device, how can I trouble shoot this?
[20:38] <ChinnoDog> hi lamalex
[21:11] <InHisName> Now I'm booting with 3.0.0-18   but sounds stopped.
[21:12] <InHisName> used to go to system>sounds>etc to fix    how to go there in Unity ?
[21:14] <Resistance> InHisName: type in system preferences, perhaps you can find a method to get there
[21:14] <Resistance> been a while, since I've  been using KDE
[21:14] <Resistance> (or gnome-shell)O
[21:18] <InHisName> found an 'all settings'   sound in there.   Test speakers,,,,  silence
[21:28] <n2diy_> can someone respond with my nick? Haven't solved my voip issue, but maybe I have sound in xchat-gnome now?
[21:29] <Resistance> n2diy_:  BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!
[21:29] <Resistance> :P
[21:30] <n2diy_> Resistance, thanks, but no joy.
[23:57] <InHisName> If I say -- n2diy_-- does it make a sound on your computer ?
[23:59] <Resistance> i think his sound is broken
[23:59] <InHisName> So's mine, I just fixed my boot and now its busted