| ochosi | morning everyone | 07:30 |
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| ochosi | knome_: yet another item for 12.10: explore desktop-search (is there anything feasible we could theoretically use? catfish is sooo old and soo outdated..) | 07:30 |
| astraljava | Make a small and cute GUI for mlocate? ;) | 09:05 |
| * ochosi has never tried mlocate | 09:14 | |
| ochosi | hmm, looks nice! | 09:15 |
| ochosi | oh, it's the same as locate..? | 09:16 |
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| mips1911 | mrpouit, how's 4.10 coming along? | 09:48 |
| astraljava | ochosi: I think locate nowadays points to mlocate. So in a sense, yes. | 10:48 |
| mips1911 | Does 12.04 i386 come with a pae or non-pae kernel. I need to install on my laptop that does not have pae support. | 11:33 |
| mrpouit | mips1911: packages done and tested locally, I still need to upload them to the ppa | 11:56 |
| mrpouit | xubuntu & lubuntu have a non-pae kernel | 11:57 |
| mips1911 | mrpouit, good news on the pae & 4.10 front. How long does the upload take more or less, I'll be your first tester :) | 11:58 |
| mrpouit | the upload is quick, but then it needs time for the packages to build. Anyway, I'll upload when I'm back home (tonight in utc+2) | 12:01 |
| mips1911 | mrpouit, thanks much appreciated! | 12:07 |
| ochosi | astraljava: what's the diff? | 12:24 |
| astraljava | No diff, there are two symlinks only. | 12:38 |
| astraljava | /usr/bin/locate points to /etc/alternatives/locate, which in turn points to /usr/bin/mlocate | 12:39 |
| ochosi | a-ha | 12:40 |
| ochosi | well catfish supports locate... | 12:40 |
| ochosi | but still, the interface is not as great as it could be and would need a serious overhaul | 12:40 |
| ochosi | (e.g. stuff like suggestions, different viewmodes of the results, customizable actions on the items and whatnot) | 12:41 |
| astraljava | Yeah okay. Well, I was planning to take a lesson on porting GTK2 apps to GTK3, so let's see if I become an expert on it, I'll refresh catfish as well. :) | 12:43 |
| ochosi | mhm | 12:44 |
| ochosi | i mean for now a gtk2 interface would be fine | 12:44 |
| ochosi | but in general yeah, gtk3 is the future... | 12:44 |
| astraljava | Are we still going to be supporting it for quantal? | 12:44 |
| ochosi | supporting what? | 12:45 |
| ochosi | gtk2? | 12:45 |
| astraljava | Yeah. | 12:49 |
| ochosi | sure, we'll have to for quite a while | 12:55 |
| ochosi | xfce's port to gtk3 hasn't even started | 12:55 |
| ochosi | and it's still uncertain when it'll happen (there are discussions currently whether it'll be the 4.12 target) | 12:55 |
| astraljava | Oh yeah, of course. I had confused the two at some point (4.10 and GTK3 porting). Thanks for clearing that up. | 13:00 |
| ochosi | sure np | 13:02 |
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| knome | hello people | 13:14 |
| ochosi | ahoi | 13:14 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Phases talks about precise specifically | 13:17 |
| knome | i should look how i fixed that in the first-review of the SD | 13:17 |
| ochosi | btw, i added two more items to the list and one spec | 13:18 |
| knome | yes, i do get notifications about all (even trivial) changes in Xubuntu/* :P | 13:18 |
| ochosi | i know, i just wanted to mention it ;) | 13:18 |
| knome | yeah, i noticed | 13:19 |
| ochosi | (especially since before i just dropped comments here instead of on the roadmap) | 13:19 |
| knome | isn't catfish something more for the default app group? | 13:19 |
| knome | or at least, tentatively | 13:19 |
| ochosi | well, potentially, but it's probably more than just replacing one app with another | 13:19 |
| ochosi | it could mean: write a different front-end (for mlocate), use a desktop-search service (beagle, etc.) or use another search-app | 13:20 |
| knome | let me paste this somewhere... | 13:20 |
| knome | i know, but blueprint-wise | 13:20 |
| ochosi | right | 13:20 |
| knome | fsst | 13:21 |
| knome | http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?292a786e6c7d806c#+96MmOd4PrFJ2MX33z0rGRY+JJ9ynutj+Y3QVAgdaWs= | 13:21 |
| knome | expires in 10 mins | 13:21 |
| knome | please note that this is from the newly drafted strategy document | 13:22 |
| ochosi | yeah, totally makes sense from my perspective | 13:22 |
| ochosi | that's pretty much how we tried to do things during P | 13:23 |
| knome | exactly | 13:23 |
| ochosi | and i think it was far better and more transparent than anything we tried before | 13:23 |
| knome | but compare that to the current /Pgases | 13:23 |
| knome | *Phases | 13:23 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Phases | 13:23 |
| ochosi | yes, well the new one is more concise mostly, i don't see great differences there | 13:24 |
| knome | yeah, and it also defines more clearly who approves | 13:24 |
| knome | if you don't mind, i'll overwrite | 13:24 |
| ochosi | yeah, just wanted to mention that | 13:24 |
| ochosi | no, go ahead | 13:24 |
| astraljava | knome: That looks really good. Especially the "kittens will die" portion. | 13:25 |
| knome | good. | 13:27 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Phases | 13:27 |
| knome | updated | 13:27 |
| knome | we should eventually just link to the SD section when the new SD is out | 13:28 |
| ochosi | +1 | 13:29 |
| knome | ochosi, i was thinking "review and improve artwork/theming" blueprint | 13:44 |
| knome | ochosi, easier to manage one big than several small | 13:44 |
| ochosi | knome: as you like, i don't mind. feel free to merge them | 14:07 |
| knome | we can do that when we create the blueprint | 14:08 |
| knome | anyway, i need to run again | 14:08 |
| knome | see you | 14:08 |
| ochosi | yup, see you | 14:08 |
| pleia2 | ooh, screenshot overlay :) | 15:04 |
| ochosi | pleia2: screenshot overlay? | 15:07 |
| pleia2 | err, shortcuts | 15:09 |
| ochosi | :) | 15:09 |
| ochosi | would you be in favor of something like this? | 15:09 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I think it's a good idea | 15:10 |
| ochosi | ok, just wanted to make sure a few people think it's a good idea before pursueing it | 15:10 |
| ochosi | if you have input, feel free to edit the spec | 15:11 |
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| GridCube | i just turned on my printer and a configuring tool popped out :D | 20:50 |
| GridCube | i didnt had any drivers for it so it went and searched ones on the interwebs for me | 20:51 |
| GridCube | and found some with jockey :3 | 20:51 |
| knome | GridCube, yeah, i noticed the printer wizard worked wonders. | 22:15 |
| GridCube | it recognizes the printer but not the scanner though :P | 22:15 |
| knome | oh well | 22:16 |
| GridCube | oh silly me, i downloaded the i386 deb from epson's page :P i was starting to freak out | 22:17 |
| GridCube | luckly epson makes drivers for everything :3 | 22:17 |
| knome | brb/afk | 22:18 |
| ochosi | knome: this looks like a nice greeter for lightdm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz09q6jREMY&feature=youtu.be | 22:24 |
| ochosi | (although i don't get why suddenly the login-boxes aren't centered anymore, seems like that's how the kewl kids roll nowadays) | 22:24 |
| drc | for the same reason window buttons were moved to the left | 22:27 |
| ochosi | which is? "because that's how the kewl kids roll nowadays"? | 22:27 |
| drc | yes | 22:27 |
| drc | or | 22:27 |
| ochosi | :) | 22:27 |
| drc | just for a change | 22:28 |
| ochosi | although: in all fairness, window-buttons were never in the center of the window :) | 22:29 |
| GridCube | ochosi, thats your computer? i noticed how the terminal was all gray :P | 22:32 |
| mips1911 | I initially hated the windows buttons on the left but now I prefer it | 22:32 |
| ochosi | GridCube: nope, not my greeter, not my computer :) | 22:33 |
| ochosi | mips1911: why? | 22:33 |
| GridCube | :P | 22:33 |
| ochosi | (and i mean, apart from getting used to it) | 22:33 |
| mips1911 | I find my mouse pointer is generally closer to the top right of windows than the left. I feel I have to move my mouse to much to get to the top left | 22:35 |
| drc | ??? | 22:36 |
| mips1911 | most window menus are located in the top right, thus the mouse pointer frequents that location more often. | 22:37 |
| * drc looks at his hands to make sure he knows his right from his left. | 22:40 | |
| mips1911 | lol, I mixed up the left & right there, should be "I find my mouse pointer is generally closer to the top left of windows than the right" | 22:42 |
| drc | ah...whew! | 22:43 |
| drc | are you left handed? | 22:43 |
| mips1911 | drc, don't worry your hands are still in the right place :) | 22:43 |
| mips1911 | no, but I'm goofy footed and also swap, my knife & fork around | 22:44 |
| drc | and surf? | 22:46 |
| mips1911 | yes, and use to skate in my younger years when my bones still had some flex in them :D | 22:47 |
| drc | getting old is a PITA, isn't it :( | 22:48 |
| mips1911 | sucks big time | 22:49 |
| knome | i'm off for now. back on friday | 23:29 |
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