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aguitelany news about ppa to upgrade 4.8 to 4.10 ?00:09
GridCubeaguitel, https://plus.google.com/u/1/112064450121097287690/posts/8Z5jnh8cRb100:10
aguitelGridCube, this is pre release00:11
GridCubeaguitel, the ppa should be updated00:11
GridCubei dont know though, you can ask in that post00:12
Unit193Shouldn't be much different, just remember that it's not supported.00:12
dwangoACAny suggestions on how to apply a patch from a launchpad patch?  I'm still trying to figure out which file to apply this patch to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oss4/+bug/969733/+attachment/3085110/+files/dkmspatch.txt00:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 969733 in oss4 (Ubuntu) "oss4-dkms 4.2-build2005-2ubuntu1: oss4 kernel module failed to build (cp: cannot stat `/lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic/source/include/linux/limits.h': No such file or directory)" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:14
dwangoACIt says --- oss4-dkms.dkms.in.orig2012-04-17 13:48:23.942005033 -040000:14
dwangoAC+++ oss4-dkms.dkms.in2012-04-17 13:46:44.786004998 -040000:14
dwangoACBut I can't find an oss4-dkms.dkms file in the source package for oss4-base00:15
GridCubedwangoAC, http://www.linuxtutorialblog.com/post/introduction-using-diff-and-patch-tutorial00:15
dwangoACGridCube: Thanks for the link!00:15
GridCube:)00:15
GridCubehope it helps00:15
GridCubeseems pretty extensive00:16
dwangoACI just don't use patch much00:16
GridCube:P me neither00:16
dwangoACIt'd be nice if this known fix were produced in a package - perhaps in 12.04.100:16
GridCubei did once, using diff, its not that hard00:16
dwangoACHmm... yeah, this shows me how to use it but not how to determine what "originalfile" is00:16
GridCubedwangoAC, don't know, if the file is updated it should simply be a matter of updating00:17
dwangoACHmm... still very puzzled - I get can't find file to patch at input line 3 and it asks me which file to patch00:20
GridCubemmm00:21
GridCubemaybe you need to sudo the diff00:21
dwangoACCan you take a quick look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oss4/+bug/969733/+attachment/3085110/+files/dkmspatch.txt and give me your best guess on the name of the file the patch applies to?  I'm getting mixed up with the .in and .out...00:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 969733 in oss4 (Ubuntu) "oss4-dkms 4.2-build2005-2ubuntu1: oss4 kernel module failed to build (cp: cannot stat `/lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic/source/include/linux/limits.h': No such file or directory)" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:21
dwangoACI've never seen a patch with a DEST_MODULE_LOCATION before...00:23
GridCubedwangoAC, sorry don't know00:24
dwangoACGridCube: It's OK, Google doesn't seem to either :)00:24
GridCubedwangoAC, sorry00:25
GridCube:(00:25
GridCubedwangoAC, you need to patch dkms00:31
GridCube?00:31
GridCubethen maybe find where dkms is00:32
GridCubelike with:  whereis dkms00:32
GridCubeand go there00:32
Unit193http://tamsler.blogspot.com/2009/02/patching-with-git-diff.html Is typically helpful.00:32
GridCubeoh00:33
GridCubeUnit193 is here00:33
GridCubehe knows more00:33
* GridCube runs away00:33
Unit193He knows nothing.00:33
dwangoACWhew!  I finally found it - my find command had a typo.  The file was located under a /debian/ subfolder.  Applying the patch with -p0 worked correctly and I now have sound again.00:45
dwangoACLong and the short of it, it wasn't really a DEBDIFF patch and had to be patched differently than the normal instructions.00:46
Unit193Well, sound is good.00:49
Unit193I typically go to the arch wiki for sound issues. :P00:49
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Psykusahh, fresh linux install01:46
GridCube:D01:47
Psykusit's like a new pair of socks01:49
s0b3hello02:07
Unit193Howdy, what do you need help with?02:17
s0b3i was wondering how to remove gnome02:29
s0b3foolish of me to even install it, but I just wanted to see how it looked, but it didn't work02:29
s0b3i used autoremove but it still doesn't add up to the 400 something mb that it asked me in the first place when i installed gnome02:30
utu-sans0b3: try aptitude clean && apt-get autoremove02:31
Unit193!purexfce |may not be as much help02:33
ubottumay not be as much help: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »02:33
s0b3ok thanks02:37
utu-sanjust curious when is 4.10 coming coming to a ppa ?02:39
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ShapeHello, I'm looking for an xfce theme that looks like Ubuntu. I looked on xfce-look and couldn't find one or mislooked it or they had bad ratings. Any suggestions?05:06
ShapeNevermind, I think I found one! Ambiance & Radiance Themes for Xfce&LXDE  12.0405:13
Unit193Yeah, was about to pull that one up. :P05:14
Unit193Found it the other night, but not for me.05:14
ShapeUnit193: What theme do you use?05:15
Unit193Heh, it's not complete. :P05:15
Unit193Blackbird.05:15
ShapeAnd how come most themes are way below 70% ?05:15
Unit193Dpm05:16
Unit193Don't know, shimmer ones are the best.05:16
ShapeUnit193: What did you mean by the theme not being complete?05:17
Unit193The author had just started converting it, but hasn't had time to work on it. http://shimmerproject.org/05:18
Unit193https://github.com/shimmerproject/05:18
ShapeUnit193: The ones you pasted are the ones you use? Goodones/ finished ones? Since you said "shimmer ones are the best"?05:22
Unit193I think they are most compatible with GTK2 and 3 at the same time, but see !best.05:22
ShapeUnit193: Oh, what I meant by best was best as in not having bugs. :)05:23
Unit193Personally, I say yes.  That's the project that provides Xubuntu with themes, so they're the official ones already installed. (I just needed something dark, bright kills my eyes)05:25
ShapeYeah, same here, that's the reason I was asking in the first place. The main theme is too bright.05:25
Unit193Bluebird isn't too bad, but I ended up with Blackbird (Closer to NOX)05:26
ShapeI see. i'll check them out. Thanks for your help!05:26
Unit193Sorry couldn't point at a finished dark one.05:27
ShapeNP, I'll look around. I looked last week and I can see already a bunch already popped up.05:31
Unit193GTK3 changes a lot.05:31
ShapeHello, sorry if I am too noob but I really can't find where the option is for not turning off hard drisks while on battery (laptop)? Also, I can't find a setting to set the screen brightness? I have to use a command in the terminal every time.07:41
qwerkushi: is there any workaround for the startup freeze "waiting for network configuration" in latest xubuntu ? Takes foreeeeeever to boot; thanks for help08:22
ShapeHello, sorry if I am too noob but I really can't find where the option is for not turning off hard drisks while on battery (laptop)? Also, I can't find a setting to set the screen brightness? I have to use a command in the terminal every time.08:46
WrigleyPeteHi Shape08:47
WrigleyPetewhich version of xubuntu you use?08:48
Shapelatest one08:48
ShapeJust installed it, 12.0408:48
WrigleyPetego to Settings Manager and then Power manager08:48
ShapeYes :) I've looked there at least 50 times.08:49
WrigleyPetethen to "On Battery" tab and there you have an option "Spin down hard disks", you should have it "unticked"08:49
ShapeWrigleyPete: It is. Yet it still does it.08:49
WrigleyPetethere`s also a tab for Monitor and there you can set the time for turning off the monitor08:49
ShapeSystem monitor shows me it turns it down. And I can also hear it.08:50
ShapeWrigleyPete: On A/C it doesn't though.08:51
WrigleyPeteIf so it might be some conflict with other settings. Do you have Gnome installed too?08:51
ShapeWrigleyPete: Nope. I actually instaleld Xubuntu because I don't like Gnome.08:51
ShapeGnome 3 that is. And mainly because of the packages it comes with already installed. It's a fresh install btw so I did nothing.08:52
ShapeIt's also odd that in Ubuntu my Fn keys are recognized and I can change brightness and everything and in Xubuntu they aren't.08:52
ShapeWrigleyPete: Did you happen to have any other tips I might try?08:54
WrigleyPeteI`m googling to see if there`s someone else having similar problem08:55
WrigleyPeteI remember having the same problem few years back with KDE, but back then I found that KDE was accepting GNOME settings...08:56
well_laid_lawntry the xfconf editor08:56
ShapeWrigleyPete: Thanks! I actually searched on google as well and couldn't find much. And regarding the brightness settings I can change it with a command echo 0 > sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness but I have to do this everytime the laptop starts :(08:57
Shapewell_laid_lawn: Thanks, I'll try right now08:58
WrigleyPeteShape: if there`s a command line option you need to do every time, you could add it to the startup applications08:58
ShapeWrigleyPete: Yep. I will soon do that. I just wanted to find the brightness setting in the system in case I was too dumb and overlooked it somehow.09:01
ShapeOK, this is the weirdest thing ever. I rebooted the system and now the bightness option is showing and the Fn+brightness keys work. And then I rebooted again and it stopped working. o_O09:25
ShapeI guess I'm going to reinstall the system.09:25
P3t3rquick question, I'm currently downloading xubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso, is this a live CD?09:31
mips1911yes09:31
P3t3rsuper, thanks09:31
P3t3ri can 'burn' it on a USB using dd?09:31
mips1911yes09:32
P3t3rthanks!09:32
koegsdd, unetbootin, usb-creator-gtk09:33
BelseruskHELP! Can someone solve this for me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11897673#post1189767309:35
mips1911which partition(s) are you trying to install it o?09:37
Belseruskmips1911, It has 2 HDD's. I will install it onto 1 and keep files on the other one.09:38
mips1911which one?09:38
Belseruskmips1911, I am unable to get to the partition step.09:38
Belseruskmips1911, It hangs before I get to that stage.09:38
mips1911sdb2 is mounted, click 'yes' to unmount09:39
mips1911Belserusk ?09:41
mips1911Belserusk, sorry mean sdb09:41
mips1911Belserusk, if that does not work install gparted from the livecd, run gparted, select the drive, select the partition, right click on it and go unmount, now format it to ext3 and try the installer again09:43
Belseruskmips1911, How about ext409:44
Belserusk?09:44
Belseruskmips1911, It hangs if I select yes or no to dismounting.09:44
mips1911Belserusk, ext4 is fine as well. run the installer again and then redo the partitioning for /, /home & swap (/home only if you need a seperate partiotn for home)09:45
mips1911Belserusk, the try gparted, sudo apt-get install gparted09:46
Belseruskmips1911, You mean run gparted from the live session?09:47
mips1911yes09:47
Belseruskmips1911, ok. Back soon.09:47
mips1911ok, will hang wait for your feedback, should not take more than 1 minute09:48
Belserusklive cd is slow - try 5min09:49
mips1911lol09:49
BelseruskBTW, are you using Xub 12.04?09:50
mips1911will go boild the kettle so long for a cuppa tea09:50
mips1911yes, 12.0409:50
BelseruskYour rating ot09:50
Belseruskout of 10?09:50
Belserusk10 being best...09:51
mips1911No idea, only been using it for 2 days now. I never stick with the default distro though for various reasons. I always download the alternate cd, do a base install and install vanilla xfce with my own apps & stuff. I'm just waiting for the xfce 4.10 PPA to go live and then I will do the same. It's a nice distro though and they the devs did a good job.09:53
BelseruskStill waiting on gparted...09:54
BelseruskIt says "searching /dev/sda partitions"...09:54
BelseruskWhat is the xfce 4.10 PPA?09:55
mips1911latest version of xfce 4.10, Xub 12.04 comes with 4.8.   4.10 came out 4 days ago, PPA is like a private repository09:56
Belseruskok09:57
BelseruskI am now in gparted.09:57
BelseruskThere are 3 partitions.09:57
mips1911hosted on launchpad09:57
BelseruskThe laptop has winxp on it09:57
BelseruskShould I just del all 3 partitions?09:58
mips1911that's sda with the winxp stuff, look at the top right and select sdb assuming you want to install it to the 16GB drive?09:58
mips1911Whoa, hang on.09:58
mips1911Do you want to delete WinXp?09:58
Belseruskmips1911, I am currently running from a Live CD.09:58
BelseruskYes, xp is to go.09:59
mips1911From the screenshot you posted on ubuntu forums I see two drives, sda 80GB & sdb 16GB. Which drive do you want to install it on?09:59
BelseruskI will del the 3rd partit...10:01
BelseruskBRB10:01
mips1911but there are two Fat32 partitions on that drive, why are there two?10:02
Belseruskmips1911, not sure why there are 2. I did not setup PC first day.10:02
BelseruskI just deleted all partitions. I think the laptop actually only has 1 HDD.10:03
BelseruskThe 2 partitions thew m10:03
Belseruskme.10:03
mips1911If you don't need anyhting on the 80GB hard drive (data?) then delete sda2 & sda3, keep the diagnostics partition sda1 as you might need it later in life...10:04
BelseruskI deleted them all.10:04
BelseruskDoh!10:04
mips1911Don't worry, I also delete the recovery partition, just that some people might need them if they decide to go back to windows10:05
mips1911what is on the second drive, sdb?10:05
Belseruskalls drives now gone. installer is working.10:05
BelseruskBRB...10:06
mips1911you can always recreate the recovery partition with a downloaded dvd from HP10:06
Belseruskmips1911, Xp is gone for good.10:06
mips1911no loss, lol10:06
Belseruskmips1911, agreed! ^_^10:06
Belseruskmips1911, Thanks for your help.10:06
BelseruskBye for now.10:06
mips1911no problem10:07
tesivo_hi10:12
tesivo_i update xubuntu to 12.04 version, but now i have a problem10:13
tesivo_the touchpad don't work like before.10:14
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ShapeHello, does anyone know why the file manager in xubuntu displays 4KB for everyl folder as folder size?11:13
Sysibecause folders are 4kb on ext4 on blocksize you're using11:17
Sysiin other words thunar doesn't calculate size of folder's contents before going to options/preferences/whatever11:18
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ShapeSysi That makes sense. Thanks!11:24
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Jonnei just upgraded to Precise, and my panels aren't showing up11:31
Jonneis this something that happens often?11:32
Jonnenm11:32
Jonnefound the issue11:33
Jonnethey were bound to non-existing monitors11:33
mips1911Does 12.04 i386 come with a pae or non-pae kernel. I need to install on my laptop that does not have pae support.11:33
Jonneis there a way i can check? I'm on 12.0411:35
JonneLinux backup1-P67A-UD3-B3 3.2.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 08:43:22 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux11:35
mips1911you are using 64-bit by the lloks of things11:36
Jonnewell, nm, i guess you need the i386 for that11:36
xubuntu888Dear all,12:38
xubuntu888I have a problem12:38
xubuntu888Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libo/liboil/liboil0.3_0.3.17-2ubuntu2_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.192 80]12:38
xubuntu888The newest Xubuntu 12.0412:38
WrigleyPetexubuntu888: have you tried switching the download servers to different location?12:44
xubuntu888How could I do this?12:45
WrigleyPetein Synaptic, go to settings->repositories and in the Ubuntu software tab  change "Download from" to different country. then just update the repositories and see if it works12:46
xubuntu888I will try Thank You WrigleyPete12:47
WrigleyPeteno problem12:47
astraljavaxubuntu888: The problem is the package has been updated, so that older version isn't available anymore.12:49
astraljavaxubuntu888: When's the last time you've `sudo apt-get update`'d?12:49
xubuntu888astraljava, I am only testing from Live CD12:51
xubuntu888I have installed throu Synaptic. Had some problems, (Unable to download, Unable to Lock Directory) but the Flash Works. Thank You12:55
xubuntu888Have a nice day, Bye12:55
xubuntu832Can anyone give me any pointer to get java support in my browser13:11
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astraljavaxubuntu832: You should install packages: openjdk-7-jre, icedtea-7-plugin13:17
astraljavaxubuntu832: Haven't tried, but those _should_ be enough.13:18
iJohnhello good evening13:27
iJohnanybody in here?13:27
knomehullo13:28
iJohnhi knome13:28
iJohni'm going to install xubuntu on my pentium 3 desktop..will it work?13:28
astraljavaIt will, but it might be a tad slow.13:29
iJohnyah..i noticed it..13:33
iJohnon my Lubuntu13:33
iJohnit's kinda slow...compared to windows with minimal installation13:34
baizon:D13:34
baizonlubuntu is slow compared to windows 95 ;)13:34
koolhead17hi all13:43
koolhead17upgraded to 12.04 and now ctrl+alt+del not resulting/locking screen13:44
koolhead17i have to type xflock4 from terminal to do the same13:45
koolhead17is it a known issue?13:45
BuckyHi all. Attempting to install Xubuntu 12.04 LTS. All goes well then the install GUI disappears. When I put the cursor in the top toolbar it is a spinning disk (something's happening) Check Gparted and the partitions I'm installing to say '/target/home' etc, so I figure I am installing. Is this lack of a GUI normal? If so the install is taking forever ...13:53
baizon1 min13:57
baizonfast guy :P13:57
mips1911I'm doing a fresh cli install. I backed up my /var/cache/apt folder to another partition and now I want to restore it, how would I copy all files & folder recursively. Only have cli access14:05
aguitelwith command mv14:07
aguitelor boot with other live cd or usb14:08
aguiteland then mount all partition and make the copy14:08
mips1911i'll boot with a crunchbang livece then thanks14:13
astraljavamips1911: `cp -a` usually works nicely.14:17
mips1911thx, alreay in a livecd though14:19
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aguitelmips1911, you did?15:01
mips1911aguitel, yes thanx. just trying to get my cd to be seen by apt now15:27
mips1911I need to copy all files, minus recursive folders, to a common place. How?16:11
mips1911so i want the files as you drill down the tree but not the actual folders16:11
mips1911need to move the contents of 12.04 alternate cd /pool to /var/cache/apt16:12
mips1911not to worry got it figured out16:30
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mips1911is it normal for lightdm to pull in so much gnome stuff?17:04
astraljavaI forget what the dependencies are. Do you have a list of what it wants?17:09
mips1911the list is very long17:12
mips1911maybe it trying to pull in the unity greeter package, will have to check once it's finished installing chromium17:16
acmeinc1does anyone know how to change the default font color for a theme?  the albatross theme has white text on a grey background :(17:17
mips1911looks like it was defaulting to unity-greeter, if you install gtk-greeter it's fine17:25
astraljavaYeah so there's a conditional dependency, then.17:32
acmeinc1so mips, you are saying to install unity-greeter.  astral, are you saying there is something wrong with the theme?  Would you agree this is a bug?17:35
acmeinc1OR, are you not referring to my situtation at all?  the greeter is the login window...?17:37
mips1911not referring to your situation at all. I'm busy building my own xfce 'distro' from a ubuntu base install17:42
niuniomartinezHellow people.17:47
niuniomartinezI've installed 12.04 over old 10.10, and I having some problems with OpenGL stuff.17:48
astraljavaniuniomartinez: What sort of problems?17:52
niuniomartinezDifferent problems in different applications. I mean, I haven't the same problem in all apps, but each app has a different problem.17:52
niuniomartinezFor example:17:52
niuniomartinezSuper Tux Kart seems to have problems with lightings in some models and sceneries.17:53
niuniomartinezThe Allegro library can detect Z-buffer but it doesn't uses it17:53
niuniomartinezAnd a program I wrote few days ago now can't upload textures to the graphics memory.17:54
niuniomartinez...17:54
niuniomartinezBut another program I wrote a two months ago does work perfectly.17:54
niuniomartinezOh, Mi computer is a Dell laptop with nVidia17:57
agentgasmaskTrying to use a bluetooth headset with xubuntu 12.04. Device pairs and connects correctly. However, there are no settings for it in pavucontrol. Any hints?17:57
acmeinc1nuinio, sorry if this is obvious, but did you reinstall the nvidia drivers after the upgrade?18:01
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niuniomartinezActually I did upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10, then I downloaded 12.04 LiveCD and installed it formatting "/" but keeping "/home".18:02
niuniomartinezThen I upgraded all ("sudo apt-get upddate" etc.)18:03
niuniomartinezSo, I didn't reinstalled the nvidia drivers. Should I?18:03
niuniomartinezacmeinc1: Should I reinstall them?18:06
niuniomartinezthem => The nvidia drivers18:06
mips1911enable the x-swat ppa and install nvidia-current nvidia-settings18:08
niuniomartinezWhat's " x-swat ppa"?18:09
niuniomartinezmips1911: Installing...18:11
mips1911https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates18:11
niuniomartinezTHX :)18:12
shocktherapyhi there, i just installed xubuntu 12.04 through wubi on winxp and the mouse will only work for a minute before it goes unresponsive.18:16
shocktherapyi can still move the cursor but the buttons won't click18:16
niuniomartinezHi again.18:31
niuniomartinezJust tu say thankyou.  Now it does works. :)18:31
* niuniomartinez quits. :)18:32
tesseraktIm running with dual monitors, I configure my screen layout with xrandr. how do I make the xrandr settings "permanent"? or rather, where should I put my xrandr call, so that it gets executed when X starts? I want my xrandr line to be run before the loginscreen appears, so that the screens are correctly set up at the login screen, not only after login.18:35
n2diy_I'm trying to get qtel to work, but when I start it from the cli I'm getting a "no such file or directory" error. I googled the problem, and set alsa as my default sound device, but still no go, ideas?18:42
astraljavatesserakt: IIRC, xrandr can output the command it uses. Put that into a script in your $HOME, and run it in .bashrc, .profile or some such.18:43
rolesphello all18:48
rolesphere I am again with a couple of questions18:48
rolespwhere i can edit the character modes?18:49
rolespunder Lucid Linx Ihad the keyboard configured as 105 keys international, alt + letter gave me the acented spanish characters18:51
rolespI have same config in 12.04 but doesn work18:51
tesseraktastraljava, I could just use the xrandr command I enter; "xrandr --output DVI-0 --auto blabla..", the thing is that I want this to run before I log in. so that it will affect all users, and also the login screen18:52
aquixcongratulations everyone. xubuntu 12.04 is a hell of a good release. I'm enjoying it immensely18:59
rolespaquix, is good, but have a couple of minor problems, i n my pc none of the screen savers work19:03
aquixhmm, mine works alright. Or the xscreensaver ones that is.19:05
aquixwitch one are you trying out?19:06
rolespaquix, maybe the problem is my Ati radeon video card19:06
aquixyeah, I have had ati cards using linux before. they can be an adventure (to use a polite word)19:07
aquixI said it's a good release but I didn't say there where no issues I had to fix ;)19:08
rolespaquix, I try all of them, none worked, black screen with two lines of scrambled text19:08
aquixdid you install the drivers?19:09
rolespaquix, yes I install the Ati comunity driver, maybe need to try the propietary driver from amd19:12
mips1911rolesp, tried the x-swat ppa?19:13
rolespnop mips, do I need to add x-swat to the repositories?19:14
mips1911yes, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates19:16
mips1911rolesp, sorry I just saw they don't have any new ati/amd drivers for 12.04 yet.19:16
rolespok mips, thanks, I saved the url for future use19:18
rolespalso I have some issues with keyboard, cant configure it right for spanish characters19:25
rolespneed that because i frequent have to do some translations from english to spanish19:27
xubuntu991Got a question19:38
xubuntu991How do we upgrade to XFCE 4.10 ?19:38
xubuntu991Will Xubuntu 12.04 automatically indicate the upgrade is available?19:38
xubuntu991from Update Manager19:38
baizonxubuntu991: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193537519:39
dekkz4.10 isnt due to 12.10 unless unofficial ppa arrives19:39
xubuntu991@dekkz, should I wait for 12.10 first?19:40
baizonxubuntu991: you can use the ppa when it is released19:40
xubuntu991which PPA?19:40
xubuntu991Does XFCE or Xubuntu have an official release channel?19:40
baizonthere is a discussion, that maybe it will be added to 12.04.119:41
dekkzits all tba atm19:41
baizonxubuntu991: read the thread that i posted19:41
xubuntu991Reading it19:42
knomei'm using mkdir within a bash script, but whenever that creates directories, thunar says the file format is unknown and think they're files. ideas?19:44
xubuntu991@baizon, OK use the PPA mentioned, but it's probably a better idea to wait until it is moved from https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa to https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10 when it can be tested?19:46
baizonyes19:46
xubuntu991Ok, thanks19:46
baizonnp19:47
xubuntu991How long should it take?  Just an esimate, I'm really HYPED that they are replacing the Sessions Logout/Restart button by mergin it with Actions19:47
xubuntu991I want the off button look so badly19:47
xubuntu991instead of the login name19:47
oCeanknome: but using mkdir on the prompt is fine?19:48
knomeoCean, yup.19:49
knomeand cd'ing to that directory works from terminal19:49
knomebut not from thunar19:49
oCeanknome: and in the script you're using full path to mkdir? e.g. /bin/mkdir?19:50
oCeantrying same thing here, thunar sees the dirs just fine19:50
knomeoh wait, seems like thunar restart fixed19:50
knomestill, WEEEIRD19:50
knomeoh, same error again19:53
knomeweird.19:53
aquixwhen you say file, do you mean symlink?19:53
knomeoCean, yeah, using full path19:53
xubuntu991cool, have a good day guys, thanks19:54
oCeanknome: I have no explanation19:54
knomeme neither.19:54
xubuntu991Xubuntu is AWESOME...congrats19:54
knomei'll have to look at this when i'm home19:54
knomexubuntu991, np19:54
n2diy_I'm trying to setup a voip app, and I think I may have a conflict with another app using the sound device, how can I trouble shoot this?19:55
n2diy_correction, audio device.19:56
GerbilHello.19:57
rgrigi want to upgrade without burning a cd. can i just s/maverick/precise/ in /etc/atp/sources.list, or would the result be significantly different from upgrading using the cd?20:35
astraljavargrig: Please use `sudo do-release-upgrade` instead. apt-get dist-upgrade is not a supported upgrade path.20:36
pleia2I've never burnt a CD to upgrade, I always just use the upgrade manager or do-release-upgrade20:36
Unit193You'd have to go to natty, then oneiric, then precise.20:36
pleia2yeah, maverick directly to precise will not go well20:37
rgrigpleia2, that sounds ... :(20:38
aquixand that is why you have a seperate /home partition.20:39
pleia2rgrig: you can upgrade from LTS to LTS (so lucid to precise) but for the six month releases they aren't designed to do anything but upgrade from one to another20:40
rgrigok, i started te upgrade. thanks. will probably leave soon20:40
pleia2in order20:40
rgrigpleia2, i know; but it's very tempting to do it anyway (via apt-get). i decided to refrain, though20:41
astraljavargrig: You'd swear the temptation to the lowest levels of hell if you did. I can't even type the amount of zeroes after the decimal point before the sole 1, that'd correctly indicate the probability of such a system still working.20:45
aquixthe one thing about xubuntu 12.04 is getting compiz to work. because you have to find a window decorator that does not make your computer look like the pride of 1995.  The choises are the gnome window decorator that will install every gnome package in the universe, so we do not want that. And the other choise in devils is the unsupported emerald packages (0.9.5). So I compiled that and are up and running, but it's a concern and I will keep m20:46
aquix<aquix> y eyes open for better adventures. But it works for now.20:46
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aquixsorry, copy from other channel20:47
Wolf_45Anybody awake who likes freaky problems?20:56
GridCube!ask20:56
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:56
Wolf_45Ah. Sorry 'bout that, I'm used to #ubuntu-us-az. :-)20:57
Wolf_45Last night I loaded xubuntu 11.10 on a Dell Dimension 8400, and everything works fine except I have no pointer on the screen. The "working" pointer works fine, for the most part, but I have to guess where the pointer is. Any ideas how to get it back?21:00
GridCubeWolf_45, tried another theme for the pointer?21:01
GridCubethey are in >configuration>mouse>themes21:02
Wolf_45Thx GridCube, I hadn't thought of that one. This was the first time I had ubuntu (or a variation) that didn't work out of the box, and my mind just couldn't accept it. I'll go try it now.21:04
GridCubeWolf_45, if you had old config files on your ~/ they might have pointed to wrong pointers themes21:05
rolespcan't find the dir where keyboard keymaps files are21:07
manitouhi , where to put .sh to start(load) o boot ?21:10
manitouo boot=ON boot21:10
GridCubemanitou, you can add programs to your boot process on >configuration >boot & startup >autostart21:11
manitoudont have those !? is it  session&startup / application autostart ?21:13
GridCubesure, i dont know how its labeled in english21:14
GridCuberolesp, this might help you, i don't really know though http://www.x.org/wiki/XKB21:16
vman~/.config/autostart/   ... but you have to create a .desktop file for it. http://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/anatomy-of-a-desktop-file/21:16
rolesptnks gridcube, I need to use the xmodmap utility, but cant find the files21:18
manitouok thx21:18
GridCubemanitou, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadepantalla-020512-181818.php21:19
manitouGridCube: yes that is it !21:19
manitouthx :)21:19
GridCubenp21:19
manitougo out to check if its working21:20
GridCuberolesp, http://cweiske.de/howto/xmodmap/allinone.html21:20
Wolf_45No joy. I was also reading on themes, and noticed I don't have a .icons directory either. No old config files, I totally over-wrote Slack.21:21
GridCubeok21:21
manitouyea it works21:21
GridCubeWolf_45, are you using your proper drivers?21:21
GridCubewhat does jockey-gtk has to say about that?21:21
manitouand yhose ssd  are nice , like fast reboot (when needed) ;)21:22
GridCube:)21:22
GridCubegood to hear21:22
Wolf_45As far as I can tell. If the pointer is on open desktop, it's there. Get it over a window or panel though, and it disappears.21:24
Wolf_45I have to go by whatever happens to highlight.21:25
n2diy_can someone respond with my nick? Haven't solved my voip issue, but maybe I have sound in xchat-gnome now?21:27
Unit193n2diy_: Maybe21:29
n2diy_Unit193, thanks, no luck.21:29
rolespGridcube, the problem is that the files are not here: The standard location for your own modmap is ~/.Xmodmap21:34
rolespthere is not /.Xmodmap dir in my home21:37
GridCubewell... you have to create it21:39
GridCube.Xmodmap is a file21:40
GridCubeyou must create and put on your ~/21:40
rolespGridcube, I can create it. butwhere i can get the keyboard map21:41
koegsxmodmap -pke > .Xmodmap21:42
rolespthe problem is I need to configure keyboard for spanish acented characters21:42
GridCuberolesp, how so? cant you simply use setxkbmap es ¿?21:43
rolespIn Lucid i have it configured as 105 keys international, and alt + vowel gave me the acented char21:44
rolespin 12.04 have the same config but alt + a give me a instead of accented a21:45
GridCuberolesp, you can install xkeycaps21:45
GridCubeand do stuff visually21:45
GridCube!info xkeycaps21:45
ubottuxkeycaps (source: xkeycaps): manipulate X11 keymaps (for xmodmap) graphically. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.47-4 (precise), package size 153 kB, installed size 1140 kB21:45
rolespok thanks, Gridcube and ubottu, going to install and report latter21:48
rolespbbl21:48
GridCuberolesp, ubottu is a bot :)21:48
GridCube!thanks21:48
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)21:48
rolespok, think the bot was _2e0...21:49
rolespbbl21:49
Wolf_45GridCube, something new. I logged out of the xubuntu session, and logged in again using the xfce session. Guess what works now?21:58
GridCube:P21:59
GridCubeguess you have something else to try, make a new user, and try loggin in with it on xubuntu mode21:59
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Wolf_45Sounds like a plan. And I'll keep working with the xubuntu session and when I figure out what the problem is, I'll pop back in and let you know, in case anybody else has it. :-)22:14
GridCube:)22:15
shinrahi good afternoon :D i´m really curious about xubuntu but i have just a little doubt: i use a wacom and i want to know if i can use the "force proportions" parameters like in kcm tablet22:45
GridCubedoes that work with ubuntu?22:51
shinraworks in kubuntu, but it´s a separate module from kde-apps22:53
GridCubeoh, then you probably will have to try, never used that :/22:54
GridCubeif it where an ubuntu working thing i would have told you that very probably, but i don't know then22:54
shinraguess i´ve gotta try to know, right?22:55
GridCube:D22:55
GridCubeshinra, you could try with a live session22:55
GridCubeif it works there then i would proceed to an install22:55
shinraok! just gotta find my usb key and i´ll try it, thanks GridCube, see you later n_n22:57
knomewacom worksforme22:57
shinraknome, works for me too, but i have a rectangular tablet and a square monitor, and in the KDE wacom settings there's the option to force proportions to crop some of the active area of the tablet to make it match the monitor's shape23:00
shinraand i want to know if there's a similar option in XFCE23:00
shinrai guess i'll be here for a little while theb n_n23:02
knomeshinra, i used xsetwacom to fix that...23:03
shinrahmmm... it seems possible, i'll need to sit and read for a while23:10
shinraok... i think i got it... i´m going to do some tests...23:21
shinrathanks n_n23:21
rolesptunapie is still working?23:32

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