=== decoy_ is now known as D-coy [00:16] looks like recent versions of kde leave power management to the OS. I don't think there's CPU scaling by deeauld [00:17] my laptop runs really hot, is there any way to get it to run cooler with cpu scaling? (i7 HP 8034w) [00:22] urlwolf, there was an app I was using, but I don't remember which was :/ === Resistance is now known as EvilResistance [00:23] urlwolf, nah. System Settings/Power Management [00:26] also, I cannot access the virtual terminals (ctrl alt F1-F6), why is that? [00:27] pepee: I can see it in system settings, but it doesn't let me change profile [00:28] what's there enables one to set up what happens 'on ac power' 'on battery' etc but not changing the current profile to any [00:29] another process is using the update package is the msg, but I don't have anything else open!?!?! [00:31] urlwolf, there is no error msg? in mine says "power management configuration module could not be loaded" [00:32] no error [00:32] urlwolf, also, you should be able to switch vt's. I don't know why you can't [00:32] what shortcut are you using? [00:33] urlwolf, ctrl+alt+F1 [00:33] maybe there's a setting somewhere to castrate the VTs? I'm using that one, nothing happens [00:34] dbc254, in the terminal: ps ax | grep -E 'apt|dpkg' [00:34] dbc254, use pastebin [00:35] I have 'enable autologin' in the login manager. Maybe that killed my VTs? [00:35] urlwolf, problem is, I'm not using kde right now [00:35] urlwolf, no, it shouldn't [00:35] urlwolf, not even a blank screen? [00:35] first time I'm away from VTs, on any system [00:35] nope [00:36] maybe i accidentally overwrote the shortcuts for VTs? [00:37] urlwolf, yeah, could be [00:37] yo, does kubuntu or ubuntu have a software firewall running by default? [00:37] dbc254, run this in the terminal (alt+f2, then type konsole): ps ax | grep -E 'apt|dpkg' [00:37] nope, syssettings doesn't allow me to use ctrl alt F1 as shortcut [00:38] DorkVader, shouldn't, I think. ubuntu comes with ufw [00:38] hm...... I can't communicate with a local virtualbox VM on port 9000... I have it NAT'd in virtual box, I have done this quite a few times and it has always worked... I am wondering if there is a firewall or something in the way [00:38] should I ask in #ubuntu? === JMichaelX is now known as LawnMowersSuck [00:40] urlwolf, changed graphics driver recently? [00:40] urlwolf, try [00:41] yes [00:41] now on nvidia [00:41] DorkVader, check the guest ips [00:41] urlwolf, that could be. I have had some problem like that [00:41] don't know how to solve :/ === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [00:42] pepee: Yeah, good call.. the guest has no IP, or /dev/eth0... :( [00:42] DorkVader, ask in #vbox [00:43] DorkVader, use dhclient in the guest vm [00:44] dbc254, again, run this in the terminal (alt+f2, then type konsole): ps ax | grep -E 'apt|dpkg' [00:44] dbc254, talk in the channel, please [00:44] pepee: Yeah, I've tried that, not bringing up a /dev/eth0 on ifconfig... not giving any errors or warnings when I run dhclient. When I run lsmod, the e1000 package is listed. Virtualbox is set to use an Intel pro 1000 ethernet card [00:45] no errors from dhclient? check IP again [00:45] also, use the dhclient -v [00:46] ah, ok, good call, "No broadcast interfaces found" [00:47] ifconfig eth0 up ? [00:47] or "connec the cable" in vbox [00:47] dbc254, no output from that command? [00:48] nope [00:48] pepee, should've stayed with 11.04? [00:48] dbc254, nah [00:49] dbc254, try running sudo apt-get update [00:49] ran sudo apt-get update [00:49] what's aptitude? [00:50] i'm not sure what the deal is, but off and on, when there are Qt updates, they cause the fan on my net-top to run constantly. then the next round of Qt4 updates stop that. it seems to always be back and forth. [00:51] dbc254, another package manager [00:51] is it any better than this muon crap? [00:51] does aptitude have support for multi-arch yet? [00:52] dbc254, muon uses apt-get, I suppose [00:52] dbc254, aptitude is a command line package manager [00:52] dbc254: if you are wanting a decent graphical package manager, you should stick with synaptic. [00:52] muon be moron for me. . . [00:53] muon sucks, and probably always will. [00:53] LawnMowersSuck, IIRC that was fixed, but ubuntu devs recommend using apt-get [00:53] synaptic? is that in the repositories? [00:53] I used to use aptitude, too :( [00:53] dbc254, yes [00:53] dbc254: yes, it has always been the most used package manager for debian/ubuntu/etc [00:54] dbc254: unfortunately, it is a GTK app [00:54] in the KDE3 days, adept was a nice package manager. it is a shame that its development was stopped. there is a new adept, but it also sucks. [00:54] I don't use kde anymore, because of the mess [00:55] LawnMowersSuck, yeah [00:55] pepee: what do you use, where there is no mess? [00:55] lxde [00:55] lots of stability :P [00:55] not being developed, I think... [00:56] to me, the KDE mess is largely in the past. and KDE cannot be blamed for bad debian/ubuntu package management tools. [00:56] here, here! [00:56] pepee: ok, thanks for the help, I got some help from the people in #vbox [00:57] also, LXDE is definitely still being developed. [00:57] LawnMowersSuck, well, they stopped supporting some apps, and then they create another app to replace the older one... [00:57] DorkVader, you are welcome [00:58] i am hoping for razor-qt to progress. i've never been much of a GTK fan. [00:58] gnome is horrible [00:58] do I have to uninstall muon to use synaptic? [00:58] dbc254: no [00:58] don't even know what gnome shell or unity is :P [00:58] I've been being using the same system on diff machines [00:59] pepee: i know what they are, but have never used either of them [00:59] s/being// === LawnMowersSuck is now known as JMichaelX [00:59] I have a quick question regarding kubuntu netbook edition [00:59] there is such a thing? [00:59] there is a netbook mode... not edition [00:59] thanks guys! synaptic seems to be working where muon wasn't. [01:00] muon sucks. the old adept needs to be revived, and ported to KDE4. [01:00] so I can install it on a netbook and "switch" the mode? [01:00] in the end, the cli works :P [01:00] ken__: i assume so. [01:01] ken__, no kde version of ubuntu netbook remix [01:01] pepee: aptitude actually was not working all that well, due to it not having supported multi-arch. hopefully that support is there now, but i have not checked. [01:01] would ubuntu be better? [01:01] ken__: that is all a matter of personal preference [01:02] ken__, kde uses lots of resources. don't know about unity [01:02] just don't want to bog it down. [01:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR [01:03] thanks pepee [01:03] I'll give it a try [01:04] ken__: UNR is no lobger around. you can install Lucid UNR, if you want, but you probably should not do that. [01:04] JMichaelX, about the Qt thing: you should fill a bug report [01:04] longer* [01:04] yeah, seems outdated === len is now known as Guest43460 [01:05] ok, then what would be good for a netbook. W7 Starter is crashed and full of viruses [01:05] no startup disks [01:05] UNR ceased being developed several years ago. as to whether ubuntu or kubuntu is lighter on a netbook, i'd have no idea. i am still running UNR Lucid on my dell mini 9, but i am fixing to migrate to precise sometime soon... maybe even tonight [01:05] JMichaelX, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/831768 [01:05] Launchpad bug 831768 in aptitude (Ubuntu Precise) "aptitude cannot handle conflicts with multiarch enabled" [High,Triaged] [01:06] ken__: to me, win7 on a netbook (especially a single core) is ridiculous to begin with [01:06] pepee: that is what i thought [01:06] W7 starter... it boot fairly fast, but nothing works, not even the HP restoration tools [01:07] ken__: i'd get rid of it [01:08] ken__: you have several options... ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu (LXDE also has some kind of netbook interface)... all a matter of personal preference [01:08] that would be fine if it were mine. I was trying to revive it for a friend [01:09] lubuntu is great, very simple [01:09] in that case, i do not know what to say. i am not a windows user to begin with (except when forced to use it at work for some reason), and could not tolerate win7 starter for 5 minutes. [01:09] trying to make a convert here, I love linux, still learning though [01:11] well, install lubuntu, then download lots of apps and games [01:12] what hardware specs? [01:12] pepee: will libre office or open office work on it> [01:12] ? [01:13] ken__, lubuntu uses lxde as window manager. other than that, all *buntus are the same [01:13] pepee: LXDE uses openbox as window manager, by default. [01:14] JMichaelX, ahh, didn't know [01:14] it's the hp mini 210-1094 NR with an intel ATOM [01:14] ken__, let him decide. download livecds, run them in the machine or in a vm [01:14] ken__: which atom? [01:15] not sure, all functions are hidden with this virus that I can clean out without reformatting the HD [01:17] some machines comes with an option to boot windows recovery after POST [01:17] ken__: it appears to have the N450, which is a single-core CPU (though with hyper-threading & 64-bit support) [01:18] ken__: i would not want to get you in trouble, but win7 starter simply sucks.. your friend may not agree, however [01:18] pepee: yeah, it's all boogered up [01:19] ahh :/ [01:19] well I'll start w/ kubuntu and work down from there [01:20] lubuntu will be last [01:20] thanks to all for your help, very much appreciated! [01:20] you can install lubuntu-desktop from kde :P [01:21] xubuntu, unity, ... [01:21] pepee: really? [01:21] yes [01:22] how? [01:22] [01:23] sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop [01:24] huh! ok - that's easy [01:24] after restart, you can select the desktop environment in kdm [01:25] ok, kdm...? [01:26] kdm - KDE Display Manager [01:26] yeah.... sorry, I got it [01:26] thanks again pepee [01:27] no problem ken__ [01:31] yo, how does one change the logo for the klicker menu? [01:51] ok so i am not sure which OS my computer is running as it was given to me by a family member. the opening screen is what appears to be ubuntu however when i logged in it regestered as Kubuntu. for some reason i can no longer log in to my profile and have to use a guest. when i try to log in it quickly flashes to a screen that resembles a terminal screen and then goes back to the login screen. can anyone help? [01:53] brambleclaw: Does the terminal give any error messag [01:53] ? [01:53] not as far as i can tell but it only flashes for a second. it does seem to resemble the screen that shows when i log out of the guest [01:55] You can switch into the terminal/text-login with ctrl-alt-f1 ctrl-alt-f7 will take you back to graphical. Try logging in with your regular user in the terminal mode. [01:55] See what it says [01:55] ok [01:55] i'll brb [02:03] ok so i logged in and it said that it failed accessing the cache [02:08] I'm not sure what that means, but now you have some info, so lets try googling it. [02:08] Could you type out the entire error message? [02:08] Does it log you in anyway, or does it kick you out back to login? [02:09] it stayed at the terminal window [02:09] ok brb [02:12] just installed 12.04. how do i get konqueror to be file manager instead of browser? [02:15] asobi, just put the path in the url bar [02:15] asobi, like /tmp/ [02:15] er, i like a gui [02:16] lol [02:16] System Settings -> Defaults Applications -> File Manager [02:17] you should be able to set konqueror there [02:19] just did but rekonq still opens as browser [02:19] rekonq != konqueror [02:20] ok [02:20] :/ [02:20] * asobi misses konqueror [02:21] install it? [02:21] !info konqueror [02:21] konqueror (source: kde-baseapps): advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.8.2-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 1086 kB, installed size 3284 kB [02:21] well, install it (if it isn't already) [02:21] asobi, ^^ [02:21] [623.651658]sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] asking forcache data failed [02:21] try alt+f2 "konsole" [02:21] oh [02:22] konsole? [02:22] so it's not installed by default [02:22] err konqueror [02:22] ~_~ [02:22] xD [02:22] asobi, so install it [02:22] [623.651658]sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] assuming drive cache: write through [02:22] that was my error message [02:22] thanks all~ [02:22] and every few seconds it kept repeating\ [02:23] how can i get firefox to use dolphin? [02:23] hey is this bug which has been solved going to get it's update pushed back into kubuntu https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297536 [02:23] KDE bug 297536 in gtk3-engine "Oxygen-GTK causes Filezilla to Crash" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] [02:23] http://download.kde.org/stable/oxygen-gtk2/1.2.3/src/oxygen-gtk2-1.2.3.tar.bz2.mirrorlist [02:25] brambleclaw, checked your hdd? [02:25] no? [02:25] we've currently got currently we are stuck with gtk2-engines-oxyg 1.2.2-0ubuntu1 Oxygen widget theme for GTK+-based applications [02:26] i got the error when i logged in by using the CTRL + ALT + F1 [02:26] brambleclaw, did ubuntu do that ever? [02:27] brambleclaw, you said it kept repeating. sounds like a faulty hdd to me, but i'm not sure [02:27] i don't know the OS i have is so weird. it was my brothers. :P it has the ubuntu login screen but when i logged in to my profile before it showed as kubuntu [02:28] ok so what does that mean and how do i fix it? [02:29] Strigi is taking FOREVER! [02:30] brambleclaw, how many disks do you have, and in which one is ubuntu installed? [02:31] i think i have one disk? on the login screen it has an icon next to the profile name that when clicked it has a list of OS's such as Xubuntu, ubuntu, KDE, Gnome, and XFE [02:32] each then goes to it's splash screen and then to it's corresponding desktop [02:32] what is sdb? an usb disk? [02:33] brambleclaw, select some random option, see if it works [02:33] sorry, what? i have very little computer knowledge [02:33] i have tried all of them [02:33] no dice [02:34] KDE's network manager will not auto-connect to my vpn on login or when there is a loss of network connection or loss of VPN connection. [02:35] the guest profile is what i'm currently using [02:36] Is anyone aware of VPN problems with the network manager. [02:37] brambleclaw, do you have an usb disk connected in the computer? [02:37] no i use the stock hard drive. [02:37] is that what you're asking? [02:38] yes [02:38] brambleclaw, is a laptop? [02:38] yeah an acer aspire one [02:38] ok [02:39] ahh, k, so the error msg probably comes from somewhere else... [02:39] it is a recovered drowning victem [02:40] my sister dropped her water in ti [02:40] it* [02:41] :/ [02:41] yeah... [02:41] use memtest to check the memory modules [02:41] ok? [02:42] how? [02:43] brambleclaw, reboot, hold the shift key, then in the menu go to memtest and press enter [02:43] ok will do [02:43] brb [02:44] brambleclaw, wait [02:44] It will take some time. [02:44] ok [02:44] yeah... === Apophis is now known as Guest60404 [02:44] ? [02:45] Depending on the amount of RAM you have it could take several minutes. [02:45] 10, 15, 30,.. [02:45] i had just changed the name of the profile then turned it off. then five minutes later i turned it back on to find the proplem [02:46] i have just under 1GB of ram [02:46] So, does anyone know anything about the network manager and VPNs? [02:46] brambleclaw, ahh, so it was working fine? [02:46] Hey. I want to install kubuntu but am having a few issues. When I have booed the installer and press "Try kubuntu" the loading screen comes up and shows all icons loading but once they start fading it stops (75%ish faded) and hangs. The same thing happens when I try to do anything in the disk partitioning part of the installer (if I use any of the options the box that is supposed to be there... [02:46] ...comes up with correct size but it hangs before it shows any content in the box). Anyone able to help? Thanks [02:46] yeah [02:46] Num83rGuy, I don't know, sorry... [02:47] me nither num83erGuy [02:47] yeah pepee it was runnign perfect [02:48] OK thanks I will ask again later. [02:48] Num83rGuy, ask in #ubuntu [02:48] it actually earlyer that day ran runescape for the first time [02:50] brambleclaw, hmm sounds like a bug [02:50] brambleclaw, how did you change the profile name? [02:51] profile i think? [02:51] profile manger [02:51] manager [02:52] it opened another window after asking for my password [02:52] it had done so before so i didn't think anything of it [02:55] should i just start over? re-install kubuntu? [03:00] brambleclaw, are you logged in now? [03:02] i'm logged in to the guest [03:03] brambleclaw, try this: in konsole, run: sudo [03:03] ok [03:03] and type the password for that user [03:04] sudo: unable to change to sudoers gid: Operation not permitted sudo: setresuid() [0, 0, 0] -> [120, -1, -1]: Operation not permitted [03:06] what does it mean? [03:06] hmm I don't know [03:07] I'm searching for it [03:07] :P [03:07] ok [03:08] brambleclaw, can you update your system? [03:08] there are no updates [03:08] i just did the new distribution [03:09] brambleclaw, try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [03:09] ok [03:09] same message [03:10] and same message again when i just put in sudo [03:11] brambleclaw, problem: I don't really know what a guest account is :P [03:11] anyway, don't worry [03:11] oh ok :P this is actually the first time i've used one on a linux system and it's not in the kubuntu format [03:12] ok? [03:16] brambleclaw, so you changed the profile name. what about the password? [03:17] i did that right when i got it about a month ago [03:17] ok, it was working fine until... ? [03:18] last night about 1:30? [03:18] turned it off at maybe 12? [03:18] did you update the system? [03:18] yep [03:19] fineshed yesterday morning [03:20] ok [03:21] try this: type ctrl+alt+F2, then ctrl+alt+F8 or F7 to come back... [03:21] ok [03:22] brambleclaw: this indeed looks like a hard disk problem http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=627231 [03:22] type ctrl+alt+F2, put your username, press enter, type your password and press enter [03:22] shiroi|yaiba, looks like this to me: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769747 [03:23] bugzilla.redhat.com bug 769747 in kernel "[sdb] Asking for cache data failed" [Unspecified,New] [03:23] shiroi|yaiba, more likely, a problem with the flash cards reader [03:23] hmm, perhaps... [03:23] I don't see why that would prevent graphical login, though. [03:24] nah, it doesn't [03:24] Well, that's the problem he's having, if you'd read the beginning. [03:24] I'll make him rename ~/.kde [03:24] ok pepee so i got Durion@Joshua-Aspire-One:/$ [03:25] brambleclaw: You're logged in. [03:25] he says " when i try to log in it quickly flashes to a screen that resembles a terminal screen and then goes back to the login screen." [03:25] ok [03:25] it's the same screen i get when i log off of the guest [03:25] So there's no problem with your account, it probably has to do with your graphical manager. [03:25] ok [03:25] Did you try selecting GNOME or Xubuntu during login? [03:25] *graphical* login [03:26] yeah i tried all of the options with the same results [03:26] You mentioned that you have those options [03:26] Okay, so it's a problem with your X configuration or graphics drivers. [03:26] brambleclaw, now, run this: mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_backup be careful when typing... [03:26] the guest however works perfectly fine with all of them [03:26] ok [03:26] pepee: it may not be in .kde since it's a problem across all WMs [03:27] shiroi|yaiba, could be related to lightdm [03:27] pepee: but it is worth a try, I guess. [03:27] perhaps... [03:27] shiroi|yaiba, yeah [03:27] shiroi|yaiba, if this doesn't work, I'm gonna make him install kdm [03:27] pepee: he may already have it running. [03:28] we should ask what the login screen looks like/ color scheme so we know which dm he's running. [03:28] It probably is gdm or lightdm though, considering that the boot splash says ubuntu [03:29] Of course, his brother seems experienced enough to have changed it. [03:29] yeah [03:29] hehe [03:29] its saying "no such file or directory [03:29] he even installed lots of DEs, so... [03:29] brambleclaw, uh, ok [03:29] brambleclaw, what color is your login screen? [03:29] What does it look like? [03:30] It says ubuntu with its logo and black fading to pinkish orange from top left to bottom right [03:30] Okay, he's using lightdm [03:30] i haven't ever seen it before [03:30] Perhaps we should just have him make a new user in the command line? [03:31] That'll have a working default config, probably. [03:31] brambleclaw, new theory. brambleclaw are you hacking your brother's computer? :P [03:31] joking [03:31] will my brothers music still be there? [03:31] no [03:32] he gave it to my sister who drowned it then gave it to me [03:32] brambleclaw, yes, it's still there [03:32] brambleclaw: it'll be there in his home directory [03:32] ok [03:32] good [03:32] he'd have a coniption if it died [03:32] shiroi|yaiba, do you know how to select some other DM? [03:32] anyway, I've got things to do, pepee, can you walk him through making a new user? [03:32] It's easier than installing a new dm [03:33] what is a DM? [03:33] I gtg, I'll be back soon. [03:33] thanks [03:33] shiroi|yaiba, see ya [03:33] brambleclaw: Display Manager. It's what lets you log in. [03:33] graphically [03:33] oh ok === shiroi|yaiba is now known as shiroi|yaiba|awa === shiroi|yaiba|awa is now known as shiroi|yaibaaway [03:33] i have never worked with DM's before [03:34] my old computer had kubuntu on it but the hard drive died of old age [03:34] ok [03:35] try this: sudo apt-get install kdm [03:35] in the black screen [03:35] cool [03:36] the package is not available [03:37] no instalation candidate [03:37] try this: sudo apt-get install gdm [03:38] it is already at its newest edition [03:38] type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm [03:38] KDE is one of the DM options in the login screen but it isn't the same as kubuntu [03:39] it doesn't however have a logo [03:39] yeah, kdm is what you can use to log into kde [03:39] brambleclaw, use kdm [03:39] log out and back in with kdm? [03:40] yes [03:40] k [03:40] brb [03:43] pepee ok [03:44] could you log into your account? [03:44] i didn't try. should i? [03:44] yes [03:45]