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gfomI'm reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades and see that I should do sudo aptitude install update-manager-core, then sudo do-release-upgrade.  I do this, and get told No new release found.  How do I get a lucid lubuntu up to precise lubuntu?02:36
Unit193sudo do-release-upgrade -d02:37
Unit193Because you're going from LTS to LTS, it'd have to have -d until 12.04.1 came along.02:37
gfomWhat's the -d ?  I just started something else with apt, so I can't run this yet02:38
gfomAnd how would I get package updates for a box that won't be online?02:38
Unit193Well, there's offline apt.02:41
PsyCl0neGood evening everyone. The other day I upgraded my lubuntu install from 10.04 to the latest 12.04 but have since lost sound. I have taken a look at my alsamixer but there are no sliders that I haven't unmuted or maxed out. Would any one else have an idea of what I could try next?02:42
Unit193gfom: Check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script.02:42
ubottuAPTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline02:43
Unit193PsyCl0ne: I for some reason hate sound issues, but https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ALSA#Troubleshooting may help, as may...02:45
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.02:45
PsyCl0neUnit193: Thank you. I will take a look through those.02:45
gfomPsyCl0ne, have you got the pulse mixer?  There's a choice between headphone and something else (I'm not at my laptop now and can't say for sure) that if you're on the wrong one, no sound.02:47
gfomPsyCl0ne, I'm also finding that things don't stay put after a reboot02:48
PsyCl0negfom: You know what, I don't know...02:48
PsyCl0negfom: pulsemixer should bring it up in terminal right?02:49
Unit193!infno pavucontrol02:49
Unit193!info pavucontrol02:49
ubottupavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.2-1build1 (precise), package size 140 kB, installed size 949 kB02:49
craigbass1976PsyCl0ne, Hey, it's gfom but I'm at my laptop...  In the output devices, you can have speakers or headphones selected.02:50
PsyCl0neactually guys I dont have a sound preference option02:51
craigbass1976I wrote this: http://www.doopensource.com/applications/stream-audio-with-ubuntu/ and couldn't get it figured out with alsa and the regular volume control app.02:51
gfomFAH!  I hate how ubuntu always comes with vi, not vim.  Always takes me a minute to realize why stuff won't work...02:54
rolandbhey everytime i try to drag items from the archive manager to my home folder, lubuntu straight hangs after giving me a permissions error?03:14
yimalotI'm running 12.04 64 live-usb started up extremely slow, but seems to run fine after complete boot, how's it running on full install? anybody03:20
Unit193rolandb: You sure everything is set as the correct owner? And file-roller?03:34
Unit193!ask | mi303:37
ubottumi3: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:37
mi3I am not asking anything, Unit19303:37
mi3I did not know that ubottu was on this channel also03:38
Unit193Ah, well you said "Hello!" a few times so I thought you were.  Yep, had her for a little now, before we just had ubot503:38
mi3so, Unit193 , are you friends with kanliot ?03:39
Unit193Not exactly, but I know him as well as well as can be expected on IRC/mailing list.03:40
mi3ooo, kanliot asked me if I could help the lubuntu team in the wikis......03:40
Unit193Want to chat in -offtopic?03:42
rolandbUnit193, apparently this is a "known pcmanfm bug" according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/92514203:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 925142 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "archive manager crashes while drag&drop" [Undecided,Invalid]03:53
Unit193I have a handy .bashrc that permits me to say   ex archive.ext03:54
annahey guys05:07
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Guest48984i got a question about lubuntu05:07
bioterror!ask | Guest4898405:08
ubottuGuest48984: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:08
Guest48984ok, then, i was on wubi selecting which ubuntu to install, and i wanted to install lubuntu, but on the website i read: only for 18 months, or sth like this. what does it mean?05:09
Guest48984i last chatted on mIRC around 1997, i don't even remember how to do this :D05:10
kanliotits hard to explain05:10
kanliotyou know warantees05:10
kanliotlike 1 year warantee05:10
Guest48984well, i know what they mean, more or less05:10
Guest48984yes,, ok05:10
kanliotit's like an 18 month waranty05:10
kanliotso in 18 months we won't accept bugs reports for old lubuntus05:11
Guest48984okok, i thought it was gonna stop working after 18 months :D05:11
Guest48984i see now, thanks a lot kanliot :D05:11
kanliotwhat kind of pc do you have?  how much ram05:12
mi3kanliot, !!!!05:12
Guest48984ehm i have a lousy pc05:12
Guest48984thats why i was planning on installing the lighter version05:12
kanliotjust wondering05:12
kanlioti've never used wubi05:12
Guest48984also because which ubuntu 11.10 after a while it stopped being fluid05:12
mi3come to offtopic channel now!05:12
Guest48984everything was jumpy and slow all of a sudden, so i am hoping to solve it by installing the lighter possible option05:14
Guest48984excuse my english, is 7 am here05:14
kanliotever consider dual booting?05:14
kanliotbut then I am just against wubi05:15
Guest48984ahaha kanliot you are writing to the queen of lamers, i dont even know what that is05:15
Guest48984i am your average winzoz user, man05:15
kanliotwell keep it in mind05:15
Guest48984ok i'll ak my expert friend in torino, he always helps me understanding this stuff.05:15
Guest48984thanks again kanliot, your answers were very much appreciated05:16
kanliotplease come back guest9023423423405:18
Guest48984ahahhaha is that me?? no, huh?05:19
Guest48984well anyway cheers from berlin05:19
mi3hi, Guest4898405:20
Guest48984ping timeout! connection reset by peer also exists????05:20
Guest48984nostalgia time <305:20
Guest48984hi mi305:20
Guest48984k ciao belli, off to wubi now05:23
dove_gmorning ppl, anyone maybe know where are stored icons from panel on application panel, for one icon (Radiotray app) it show "no icon" as icon, red crossed circle, tnx06:44
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toschohow can I change the keybord configurations, so ctrl-alt-backspace kills the xserver, pressing the power button opens the shutdown dialog and the next-page/previous-page are mapped to pos1 and end?09:06
kanliotyou might ask on the mailing list09:08
bioterrory u want to kill X !09:08
kanliotsup bio09:09
kanlioti just learned how to tab expand nicks09:09
bioterrorI'm trying to remember where that configuration went09:10
bioterrorabout killing X09:10
kanliotthere is a way to kill x09:11
kanliotit's just differnt keys09:11
kanliothow often do you need to do it09:11
ChesterXhey guys, after i installed ibus to tipe chinese all my deadkey (^,´,`, etc...) got killed. is there a way of keeping ibus active and still enable them?09:11
bioterrorSection "InputClass"09:11
bioterrorOption                 "XkbOptions" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"09:11
bioterrorsetxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp09:15
toschothere is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/09:15
bioterrordo you have xorg.conf then?09:15
bioterrorthen add it there09:15
toschoSection "InputClass"09:16
toscho    Identifier             "Keyboard Defaults"09:16
toscho    MatchIsKeyboard   "yes"09:16
toscho    Option           "XkbOption" "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"09:16
gordonjcpjackd is just as broken in lubuntu as "normal" ubuntu10:27
dove_gaynone using opera?10:51
dove_git freezes every few minutes for 10-30 seconds10:51
kanliotrunning youtube dove_g11:00
dove_gnope, anything i use, it freezes11:01
dove_gi have try 11.62, 11.61, 11.60 the same thing11:01
kanliotwhats play.google.com?11:02
dove_gif i use 11.5x then it is impoosible to import and use old config (emails)11:02
dove_gandroid apps11:02
kanliotyou might delete your cookies and stuff11:02
kanliotand profile and all that11:02
kanliotbut that's justa  guess11:03
kanliotand bookmarks11:03
dove_gi will try11:04
DrunkOnMy update notifier says my updates are outdated, even though it's been updated regularly? Anyone know a fix?12:07
bioterroropen terminal12:08
bioterrorsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:08
DrunkOnOkay, I think I've already tried this, but I'll try again.12:08
DrunkOnHasn't worked.12:09
bioterrorwhy not?12:09
bioterror!pastebin | DrunkOn12:09
ubottuDrunkOn: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:09
bioterrorpastebin the output12:10
toschohi, one of my lxpanels takes very long to appear after startup12:13
bioterrortoscho, why?12:14
toschodon't know12:14
bioterrorwhat does that panel doo?12:14
toschoit has taskbar, pager, volume control, systray, clock and an application launch bar holding a link to shutdown12:15
bioterrorit's that basic lxpanel?12:18
bioterrordefault one12:18
toschoi don't know, which of my 2 panels is the default one. but probably it's that one12:19
bioterrorwhat that another panel does?12:19
toschoa menu, some application launch bars and spacers12:19
bioterrorand how much is "very long" to appear?12:20
bioterror20 seconds?12:20
toscho10 seconds maybe12:20
bioterrorI'll add this case into file named "1st world problems"12:21
toschothat means, 10 seconds after the first one appears12:21
toschobut before 12.04 that problem did not exist12:21
bioterrorif you kill the panel12:22
bioterrorand you open it from terminal12:22
bioterrordoes it take that long too?12:22
toschosudo killall lxpanel?12:22
bioterroryou dont need to sudo it12:22
toschorestart via lxpanel?12:23
bioterrorkillall lxpanel12:23
bioterrorand run from terminal command: lxpanel12:23
toschonearinstantaneous, but not my lxpanel. it seems to be the default lxpanel (if i recall it correctly)12:24
bioterroroh well wait12:24
bioterrorkill it with -C12:24
bioterrorlxpanel -p Lubuntu12:24
toschonearinstantaneous and the correct one, but of course not a daemon (so dies when term is killed)12:26
bioterrorso it has something to do with the "boot"12:27
DrunkOnEpson responsible for the error?12:38
bioterrorthe signature does not match12:39
DrunkOnAnd Ubuntu Extras?12:41
DrunkOnI added this key: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> to see if I could fix the bug, and it's caused its own problem. How can I remove it?12:44
DrunkOnI seem to have fixed the problem.12:57
Andriy8691can i ask something?14:48
Andriy8691i need to know how to auto mount 2 drives on boot14:49
Andriy8691im using lubuntu 12.0414:50
Andriy8691trying with pysdm14:51
phillwAndriy8691: edit your /etc/fstab --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab14:52
Andriy8691there's any fstab editor gui?14:54
gordonjcphow exactly would that differ from any other editor?14:55
Andriy8691well, thanks.14:56
bioterrormi3, oh behave!14:57
mi3hi guys, I am getting high cpu usage while watching movies in gnome player and vlc player15:12
mi3any suggestions?15:12
bioterrorThu17:48 <mi3> no15:12
mi3what is it, bioterror ??15:13
bioterrorthat's how you responded to someone asking help15:13
mi3bioterror, sorry for that hehe15:13
mi3was just kidding hahahaha15:13
KM0201mi3: is it just a specific file type, or any video file?15:13
mi3KM0201, any video file15:14
mi3the cpu usage jumps directly to 95-100% for no reason!15:15
mi3I have tried both the players, KM020115:15
KM0201i believe you, i just have no logical explanation.. what CPU?15:16
mi3cpu usage!15:16
KM0201"what CPU".. in other words, how many mhz, intel/amd?15:16
mi3oo, Intel Pentium 4 HT 3.1 GHz15:17
KM0201hmm,well, that should be plenty15:17
mi3it is, never had this problem, while I used ubuntu15:17
KM0201mi3: does the CPU use go back to "normal" when you close the video file?15:18
mi3KM0201, I found something interesting, when playing videos with low quality,15:19
ChesterXhello everyone, does one of you know how to change the default soundcard in 12.04? thanks :-)15:20
mi3the cpu usage is normal15:20
mi3the case is only with high res videos I think15:20
mi3KM0201, are you there15:22
KM0201well.. wha thappens if you play "regular" resolution videos?15:23
mi3it runs perfectly, the cpu usage is between 30-3515:23
rico_all my applications closed somehow I dont know15:25
mi3sorry, wrong nick hehe15:26
mi3KM0201, so, can you figure it out?15:26
KM0201if i could figure it out, i'd offer a suggestion.. it's obviously something to do w/ the hi-res videos... i just have no idea what15:27
mi3maybe I will download normal res videos, for now15:27
mi3thats the best option  I guess, till this bug is resolved...15:28
mi3bye, and thank you!15:28
KM0201try to file a bug report.15:28
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Khmerogi had lubunut installed then i installed joliOS along with it..now my system doesnt load up..it says something about Grub16:17
bioterroryou broke grub16:18
Unit193https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2 Yep, sounds like it.16:19
bioterrorI recommend: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair16:19
kristian-aalborghi ppl16:40
kristian-aalborghow safe is it to go all 12.04?16:40
Unit193Works for me™16:46
Unit193I didn't have huge issues going from 11.10 to 12.04.16:46
kristian-aalborgmy menu panel died today16:48
pcroquekristian-aalborg: I had several problems with lxpanel locking-up. Finally gave up and switched to tint2.16:58
kristian-aalborgit's weird, last time I had gnome on that box the panel died also16:59
kristian-aalborgmaybe it's some kind of curse...16:59
pcroqueDid you check launchpad? I remember there were several crash/lockup bugs related to lxpanel.17:01
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kristian-aalborgbut, this should not happen in "stable" versions of distros...?17:04
Khmerogi get a error: out of disk. grub rescue>   screen when i try to load lubuntu17:07
bioterrorKhmerog, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair try to repair17:12
Khmerogbioterror are you familiar with boot repair? what if i cant even get onto lubuntu to install bootrepair?17:14
bioterrorKhmerog, you do it with live environment17:14
Khmerogare u busy bio terror?17:18
bioterrorwatching kids atm.17:18
bioterrorjust put them in bed and making sure they fall asleep17:18
bioterrorwe have a tought competition, which one snores first17:19
phillwKhmerog: have a read through http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5 it should have enough pointers for you to guide you on your way.17:19
bioterroratm. both keeps moving noises and keeps farting17:19
Khmerogill give it a try phillw17:20
Khmeroglinux OS is very good but the terminal and "sude" blah blah is very complictaed for new users17:30
Khmerogill just format my my hard drive physically then reinstall everything17:31
smileKhmerog: good idea :)17:31
Khmerogbut next time ill install Boot-Repair or bootrepair should be already installed17:32
phillwKhmerog: that's why they are set up as copy and paste where ever possible, Some times it is not possible.17:32
phillwKhmerog: how did you do the install?17:35
phillwThere are a couple of 'hits' for your error, such as http://askubuntu.com/questions/18531/error-out-of-disk-grub-rescue although http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/newbie/182235-ubuntu-installation-error-hd0-out-disk-grub-rescue.html does suggest your way as a clean way of clearing things :)17:40
phillwKhmerog: one thing... Do ensure you run the self test on the CD / usb stick before you re-try.17:43
bioterrorlife is too short for performing self tests for installation medias ,)17:44
phillwbioterror: life is tooooooooooo short to have a corrupted install media & end up in the land of the 'funnies' :D17:45
bioterrorbetter make perfect installation at once17:51
vociferous666anybody feel like helping me a bit?17:53
vociferous666im trying to setup multiseatx on Lubuntu 12.0417:53
vociferous666trying to generate xorg.conf and none of the current methods work.17:53
vociferous666i need to edit xorg.conf as part of the MultiseatX setup17:54
ubottuThe /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.17:54
vociferous666im using a sandybridge gpu so ill try the first link?17:55
vociferous666this is on an i3 with the HD3000 gpu17:56
vociferous666know anything about generating xorg njin?17:56
njinwhat you need ?17:57
Unit193Not really nice to do that, and the bot had what you need.17:57
vociferous666it doesnt work17:58
njinwhere ?17:58
vociferous666lol srys17:59
njinprecise or quantal ?17:59
vociferous666sudo /etc/init.d/lxdm stop17:59
vociferous666trying to generate xorg.conf and none of the current methods work.17:59
vociferous666ive tried these commands:17:59
bioterrorsudo service lightdm stop17:59
bioterrorsudo Xorg -configure17:59
vociferous666yea that didnt work18:00
bioterrorsudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf18:00
vociferous666im doing this all over ssh and teamviewer18:00
njinsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?18:00
vociferous666all of it.18:00
vociferous666get a Number of Screens does not match number of detected evices18:00
vociferous666i get what seems to be a very generic xorg file in my home directory18:01
njinAFAIK xorg.conf is generated any times it boot18:01
vociferous666yea but i need to specify configuration for each screen. this is a media server with two seats.18:01
vociferous666forgot to tell that bit again.18:02
vociferous666the documentation is using a Sandybridge gpu AND a Radeon18:03
njinsorry dunno18:07
vociferous666is there any way to know if the generated xorg is being used?18:08
vociferous666oh well. so hows norway this time of year?18:09
rumpelstilzchenlook in /var/log/Xorg.0.log18:09
vociferous666ok thx18:09
rumpelstilzchencould anyone help me getting my suspend key to work? I need to press Fn+F3 but xev doesn't recognize it while showkey does18:11
rumpelstilzchenmedia keys work too18:11
vociferous666what system you on? sounds like an HP?18:11
vociferous666which series?18:12
rumpelstilzchenhp dm3-1008eg18:12
vociferous666also, what version of Lubuntu and did you dist-upgrade from an old one?18:12
rumpelstilzchenI did a clean install of 12.0418:12
vociferous666i havent used it on a laptop yet, but what happens when you hit the suspend key? also, what happens when yo hit the power button?18:16
rumpelstilzchenunfortunately I can't answer your question regarding the power button because it broke18:18
bioterrorvociferous666, those can be configured18:19
rumpelstilzchenwhen I hit suspend (Fn+F3) nothing happens at all18:19
vociferous666aw man that sux.18:19
rumpelstilzchenit was this slider thing and now I have to fiddle around in the opening with a thin object to turn on the notebook18:19
vociferous666look through these and try to configure your keys:18:20
vociferous666i think this one is the same as one of the above links http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2703918:26
vociferous666my xorg.0.log is giving me alot of info. thanks for the help guys. it seems xorg is using my config file.18:33
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milen8204Hello, anyone had upgraded to 12.04 ?19:14
Unit193I'm even one of them.19:15
milen8204any one have problems whit Lubuntu 12.0419:18
bloodredI do. My suspend key doesn't work :/19:21
bloodredeven after I set everything up with keytouch19:21
bloodredI take that back19:32
bloodredwell, not completely19:33
bloodredthe key is now recognized by xev correctly and mapped to XF86Sleep19:34
sunshine_Hi, the button of the brightness for lubuntu , where is?19:54
faLUCEhi, I can't hear audio anymore, on 11.10. From what can I start in order to solve?19:57
sunshine_faluce do you have some button for the brightness in your lubuntu?19:59
faLUCEsunshine_: I don't know19:59
faLUCEsunshine_: yes, fn+arrow20:00
sunshine_what is the key fn ?20:00
sunshine_which is the key fn?20:01
faLUCEFn (near ctrl)20:01
faLUCEnear ctrl and alt20:01
BatshuaA friend of mine has an IBM ThinkPad T40. Will it be able to run Lubuntu?20:02
sunshine_fn + arrow dont work in my lubuntu20:03
gordonjcpBatshua: probably, have you tried?20:03
faLUCEsunshine_: how can I solve the audio problem?20:04
BatshuaI was going to download a disc image and burn it?20:04
gordonjcpBatshua: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T40 <- one of those?20:04
bioterrorBatshua, I have T42, it runs but it's not enjoyable20:04
BatshuaYes, one of those.20:04
gordonjcpBatshua: it'll run "normal" Ubuntu, never mind Lubuntu20:04
bioterrorwhat? :D20:05
BatshuaWill Lubuntu suck less?20:05
Batshua'Cause I don't want his first linux experience to be "god, my computer is so slow"20:05
BatshuaI figure that's a bad plan.20:05
bioterrorBatshua, it will be slow20:06
bioterrorwhen you change workspace, cpu usage lifts up to 100%20:06
sunshine_faluce you could install alsa audio drivers or plugins from lubuntu software or apt20:06
bioterrorI have 1.7GHz and 1.5GB of RAM20:06
bioterrorso I would not run vanilla buntu on that one20:06
bioterrorI mostly use this Windows 7 laptop instead of that and wonder where could I get a new better lappy :D20:07
* Batshua nods.20:07
BatshuaLubuntu it is, then. I was thinking Xubuntu, but I hear Lubuntu is better for old computers.20:07
faLUCEsunshine_: apt-get what?20:08
sunshine_i need a pluging for the brightness in lubuntu? is possible?20:08
sunshine_i need a button for the brightness20:09
BatshuaThanks, guys!20:09
Batshua(If anyone is good with xorg.conf files and likes puzzles, drop me a line.)20:10
sunshine_faluce you can search alsa audio from the software center of lubuntu or from apt manager of lubuntu20:11
sunshine_or something similiar osd audio alsa audio .....20:12
gordonjcpI'm running "normal" Ubuntu on a 1.8GHz Celeron M with 1G of RAM20:13
gordonjcpit's perfectly usable20:13
gordonjcpI tried out Lubuntu but it's completely pointless on low-end hardware20:14
gordonjcpsince anything with a new enough CPU to handle i686 will be fine with normal Ubuntu20:14
Unit193Mhmm, then you use it and be happy.20:15
sunshine_is there some user of lubuntu with a plugin or button for the brightness installed in lubuntu?20:15
gordonjcpsunshine_: ah, that's why I stopped using it on my laptop ;-)20:15
gordonjcpas soon as the screen saver kicks in, it turns the backlight right down with no way to turn it up20:16
sunshine_fn + arrow dont work in my lubuntu20:16
bioterrorsunshine_, your hardware is?20:17
gordonjcpwhat Lubuntu really needs is i586 builds20:17
sunshine_intel centrino duo20:17
gordonjcpor for that matter i48620:17
gordonjcpbecause that would rock on embedded x86 hardware that lacks cmove20:17
SomeoneWhoIsntMei have the same brightness problems. couldnt really solve it, but have the same ones in ubuntu, too. i always change the brightness back with xbacklight20:18
bioterrorthen use slackware20:18
bioterrorthey have i48620:18
bioterror"hello 90's"20:18
sunshine_xbacklight dont work in my lubuntu20:19
bioterroron your lubuntu or on your laptop20:19
bioterrortell us brand and model20:19
bioterrorwould help a little bit more20:19
sunshine_intel centrino duo20:20
gordonjcpbioterror: what have the 90s got to do with it?20:22
sunshine_is there more plugins for the panel of lxde in lubuntu with a brightness button for install?20:23
bioterrorwell, one is crying after some old i486 kernels, and dual core cpu's are already garbage for most of the people20:24
gordonjcpdual core *is* garbage20:24
gordonjcpway too power-hungry20:24
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gordonjcpbioterror: I'm currently looking at OS options for a board which uses a CPU that is basically a 1.6GHz Pentium III, running around 700mW20:25
gordonjcp*flat out*20:25
gordonjcpdoesn't even have a heatsink, never mind a fan20:25
gordonjcpwell it's got a daft wee black aluminium plate glued n20:25
bioterrormy atom 330 box only has fan in the psu20:25
bioterrorit will probably eat less power and has more power when needed20:26
gordonjcpit's possible20:26
gordonjcpbioterror: the whole board draws around 1.5W20:26
gordonjcpbut that's peak, it's usually below 1W20:27
bioterroryou have a wattage meter reading the usage?20:27
sunshine_could i make a plugin for the brightness with only copy and paste a text of comands for lubuntu?20:28
gordonjcpbioterror: yes20:28
gordonjcpbioterror: actually, I'm using a digital sillyscope with a current shunt20:28
bioterrorwell, the fastest tualatin is 1.4GHz20:28
gordonjcpso I can see exactly how the current draw fluctuates20:28
bioterroris your cpu over clocked then?20:29
gordonjcpthis is some weirdass chinese name that I'm not going to attempt to transliterate20:29
gordonjcpno, it's running at its spec20:29
gordonjcpit's not a "PC" type processor, it's SoC20:30
sunshine_why lubuntu hasnt a pluging for the brightness like gnome or xubuntu ?20:30
Unit193sunshine_: xbacklight didn't work? Did you look at the config in xfce4-power-manager-settings?20:31
bioterrorgordonjcp, it's not pentium III either, as the fastest Tualatin is 1.4GHz20:31
bioterrorgordonjcp, jpeg or I dont believe you20:32
sunshine_xfce4 power the last version for lubuntu hasnt a brightness control20:32
Unit193So install xbacklight and see if it works, and xfce4-power-manager-settings is installed by default.20:33
sunshine_my machine is a hp and xbacklight dont work with hp , i think it20:34
Unit193Alright, and the other option was xfce4-power-manager-settings, did that have whatever you were looking for?20:35
sunshine_xfce4-power-manager-settings in my lubuntu 12.04 hasnt this option for the brightness20:37
gordonjcpbioterror: remind me tomorrow when I'm at work20:37
gordonjcpsunshine_: which hp?20:37
sunshine_hp dv900020:38
sunshine_a expert maybe build a brightness plugin for lubuntu, please.20:42
gordonjcpthat's rather newer than my nc4200 ;-)20:42
gordonjcpI need to spend some money on a new laptop instead of buying dev boards20:43
bioterrorsunshine_, fn+f7 does not rise the brightness?20:44
sunshine_bioterro ok work fine20:45
sunshine_i dont know it20:46
bioterrorsorry, F8 is up20:46
bioterrorand F7 is down ;)20:46
sunshine_ok perfet20:46
bioterrordoes it work?20:46
sunshine_yes and very well20:47
bioterroranother happy camper20:47
sunshine_bu although was difficult know it for me20:47
sunshine_bioterror thank you20:48
Celltechuname -r shows me on 3.2.0-24... Can I 'remove' -23 safely>22:48
MrChrisDruifCelltech; if -24 is running without problems, then yes. But it's always a good idea to have a good functioning kernel for back up22:57
MrChrisDruifCelltech; I'm working on a newer version of this page, but it should help you along for now: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels22:58
rolandbguys, is there a way to make the filemanager run with root privs?23:28
Unit193Tools > Open Current Folder as Root.23:28
Unit193Or, gksudo pcmanfm23:28
rolandbah very handy ty23:29
chorgoxgood night everyone, I just installed again ubuntu 12.04 and i want to have lubuntu23:38
chorgoxthat would work ?? sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop23:38
chorgoxor i need other steps ?23:38
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde »23:41
chorgoxof course i forgot about the psycho cats .. thanks23:46
chorgoxlxde is the really lightweight one right ?23:47
Unit193Rather, yep.23:47
chorgoxi can of like the unity but is not good for netbooks23:47
chorgoxtoo slow and to be hones the old 10.04 netbook desktop was great .. i don't know why they stop doing that23:48

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