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EvilResistancei'm unsure how to triage this one:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/99343000:57
ubot2Launchpad bug 993430 in update-manager "Recommend backing up before upgrades" [Wishlist,New]00:57
EvilResistancein one sense, its a feature request, on another hand, its a huge change...00:57
EvilResistanceoh i see bdmurray got to it00:57
EvilResistance(lag didnt show that he got to it)00:58
DaekdroomIt's not a huge change if you think of it as the addition of a warning.01:01
DaekdroomIntegrating update-manager with a backup utility would be a huge change.01:01
EvilResistancethat was suggested in the thing01:01
DaekdroomYeah... I just noticed.01:02
EvilResistanceperhaps it should be added in the bug in the comments taht adding a backup utility would be a huge change, and that should be proposed on brainstorm and not a bug/feature request?01:02
EvilResistancethis is why i havent asked it to be triaged yet, i'm still pondering how to treat it01:02
EvilResistancei agree, adding warnings would be epic and awesome01:02
EvilResistancehowever, adding in autobackups is a huge change01:02
EvilResistancesince both exist in the bug/featurerequest...01:02
EvilResistance... perhaps you can see my confusion?01:03
DaekdroomYes, I can. I'm equally confused.01:03
EvilResistanceif it were up to me, this is what I'd do, assuming i was bugcontrol:01:03
Daekdroom'If the requested enhancement is small and well-defined and/or the suggestion concerns an upstream project, the Importance of the bug should be set to 'Wishlist'. '01:03
EvilResistance(1) post to the bug saying "This bug is being traiged for the adding of a warning.  However, adding an automatic backup system is a huge change, and is not to be included in this, rather propose that on brainstorm."01:04
EvilResistance(2) triage01:04
EvilResistancethat'd be my decision, if i were god of everything (and of course, I"m not)01:04
EvilResistanceactually i can poke the OP of the bug, he's in #ubuntuforums01:05
EvilResistancei could have him split off the "big change" part01:05
EvilResistanceand tell him to propose that on brainstorm01:05
EvilResistanceand leave the other part in the feature request but01:05
EvilResistanceperhaps i should post it on the bugsquad list, see what the general response is to it?01:07
bodhi_zazenIMO it would be nice to at least warn people that upgrading may have detrimental effects and they need to be prepared for a fresh install ;)01:10
bodhi_zazenI know, no one reads the warnings or release notes, but, IMO, it is just too easy to click the upgrade button01:10
EvilResistanceindeed, but we're stuck on how to process because of the last part of your bug01:10
EvilResistancethe part about autoupgrading01:10
EvilResistanceadding autobackup is a huge change01:11
EvilResistancethe rest isnt01:11
bodhi_zazenYou would think a limited backup would be *fairly* easy to do, but I understand that is a larger change01:11
EvilResistanceif we process it solely based on the huge change, we'd have to follow the Triage guide01:11
EvilResistanceand mark your bug as invalid and tell you to go to Brainstorm about it01:11
bodhi_zazenI think , at the end of the day, consider data integrity / data loss as you decide how best to triage the bug01:11
EvilResistanceon the other hand, if we process it based on the warning, we can triage it01:11
EvilResistanceso you see where i'm confused on the matter, and where Daekdroom is01:12
EvilResistanceif it were up to me, i'd split off the adding autobackup from your request, and file that separately01:12
EvilResistancebut it's not entirely up to me01:12
bodhi_zazenThat would be fine01:12
EvilResistancei'll let you do that, i dont have bugcontrol so i can't edit your bug :P01:12
EvilResistance(not fully, at least)01:13
bodhi_zazenI am just saying, as someone who provides support, we see too many people with failed upgrades, and it is not fun to loose data01:13
EvilResistancei agree with you there01:13
* EvilResistance is an IT technician, and sees this daily01:13
bodhi_zazenI am not saying the end user does not have some responsibility, but , make them think about upgrading first01:13
EvilResistancebodhi_zazen:  if you will edit the bug to remove the part about the autobackup system being added, and file that part separately, i'll push for the rest of the bug being triaged01:14
EvilResistancebut as it stands, its kinda hard to decide what to do (even Daekdroom agrees with me)01:14
EvilResistancebug control members: this needs triaging: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/99343001:15
ubot2Launchpad bug 993430 in update-manager "Recommend backing up before upgrades" [Wishlist,New]01:15
EvilResistancebodhi_zazen:  if you file the part about adding automatic backups into it, we'll handle that separatelyt01:17
DaekdroomEvilResistance, that'd better go to Brainstorm.01:21
EvilResistanceDaekdroom:  indeed, actually01:21
* EvilResistance briefly forgot about Brainstorm even though he's mentioned it several times01:22
EvilResistanceside effect of active monitoring of 12 channels, i think :/01:22
bodhi_zazenthanks but-squad01:27
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simplewi have a launchpad account but when i click in button "Report a bug" im redirect to a howto page, how can i report a bug?05:38
micahgsimplew: ubuntu-bug followed by the package name05:39
simplewim not running ubuuntu05:40
simplewbut theres a major ubuntu bug in the server installer05:40
simplewand that needs to be reported05:40
simplewsince that its also being used by other distros05:40
simplewmicahg: so how am gona report this bug?05:41
micahgwell, the instructions are on that page05:42
simplewmicahg: already told im not running ubuntu05:42
micahgsimplew: there are instruction on how to file directly05:43
micahglook at the summary on top05:43
simplewmicahg: those isntructions for what i can see are valid for whos running ubuntu05:43
micahgsimplew: you didn't read the whole page then :)05:44
simplewi alreadu read the page twice05:44
andolsimplew: What about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing_bugs_at_Launchpad.net then?05:44
simplewandol: thanks, but i was at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu and each time i clicked to report a bug i was redirected to the howto page05:46
simplewandol: to which package should i refer when this is a problem in the server installer cd?05:46
simplewandol: should i leave the field empty?05:48
andolWel, to quote https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage05:48
andol"If you encounter the bug when installing from the Alternate or Server CDs, the package is debian-installer."05:48
simplewandol: thabks06:01
simplewandol: done -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/99376106:02
ubot2Launchpad bug 993761 in debian-installer "Precise Server Installer does not allow to complete the encrypt partitions procedure" [Undecided,New]06:02
simplewandol: maybe was better to report this bug in debian?06:04
andolsimplew: Well, if you can reproduce the bug in Debian, sure.06:16
simplewandol: i thought this was a pure debian package, thus reporting it to debian,, but thats not the case...06:18
simplewandol: i thought this was a pure debian package, thus reporting it to debian,, but if thats not the case...06:18
simplewdue to this problem im unable to install a deb based distro with encrypted partitions06:20
simplewsince at 3 distros i already saw, this is the isntaller used06:21
andolsimplew: If you look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer (for example) you will see that there is an "ubuntu" part of the version number. That means that there is an Ubuntu delta compared to the original Debian package.06:21
simplewandol: i see, wel i just hope that this can be fixed to allow users like me to install ubuntu when we already have encrypted partitions in the hd06:22
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nik90can anyone mark this bug medium priority https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/99376810:59
ubot2Launchpad bug 993768 in unity "Unity Dash obscures keyboard shortcut overlay" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:59
PirateKinghi, could you set bug 990949 to Triaged with medium importance?11:25
ubot2Launchpad bug 990949 in gedit-latex-plugin "Editor scrolls down after editing and saving a tex file" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99094911:25
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hggdhPirateKing: done, thank you for the heads up on it13:29
hggdhPirateKing: only not Triaged, since it still needs to be reported upstream13:30
PirateKinghggdh: alright, thanks!13:30
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek is happening right now in #ubuntu-classroom13:51
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GraemeLionHi there.. kinda new to the bug squad thing.. I think #993930 may be ready for triage and importance.19:01
roadmrbug 99393019:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 993930 in unity "onscreen keyboard doesn't disappear from lock screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99393019:19
Simplewto who i need to talk so that a ubuntu bug in debian-installer can be fixed?21:12

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