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| EvilResistance | i'm unsure how to triage this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/993430 | 00:57 |
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| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 993430 in update-manager "Recommend backing up before upgrades" [Wishlist,New] | 00:57 |
| EvilResistance | in one sense, its a feature request, on another hand, its a huge change... | 00:57 |
| EvilResistance | oh i see bdmurray got to it | 00:57 |
| EvilResistance | (lag didnt show that he got to it) | 00:58 |
| Daekdroom | It's not a huge change if you think of it as the addition of a warning. | 01:01 |
| Daekdroom | Integrating update-manager with a backup utility would be a huge change. | 01:01 |
| EvilResistance | that was suggested in the thing | 01:01 |
| EvilResistance | :P | 01:01 |
| Daekdroom | Yeah... I just noticed. | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | perhaps it should be added in the bug in the comments taht adding a backup utility would be a huge change, and that should be proposed on brainstorm and not a bug/feature request? | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | this is why i havent asked it to be triaged yet, i'm still pondering how to treat it | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | i agree, adding warnings would be epic and awesome | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | however, adding in autobackups is a huge change | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | since both exist in the bug/featurerequest... | 01:02 |
| EvilResistance | ... perhaps you can see my confusion? | 01:03 |
| Daekdroom | Yes, I can. I'm equally confused. | 01:03 |
| EvilResistance | if it were up to me, this is what I'd do, assuming i was bugcontrol: | 01:03 |
| Daekdroom | 'If the requested enhancement is small and well-defined and/or the suggestion concerns an upstream project, the Importance of the bug should be set to 'Wishlist'. ' | 01:03 |
| EvilResistance | (1) post to the bug saying "This bug is being traiged for the adding of a warning. However, adding an automatic backup system is a huge change, and is not to be included in this, rather propose that on brainstorm." | 01:04 |
| EvilResistance | (2) triage | 01:04 |
| EvilResistance | that'd be my decision, if i were god of everything (and of course, I"m not) | 01:04 |
| EvilResistance | actually i can poke the OP of the bug, he's in #ubuntuforums | 01:05 |
| EvilResistance | i could have him split off the "big change" part | 01:05 |
| EvilResistance | and tell him to propose that on brainstorm | 01:05 |
| EvilResistance | and leave the other part in the feature request but | 01:05 |
| EvilResistance | bug* | 01:05 |
| EvilResistance | perhaps i should post it on the bugsquad list, see what the general response is to it? | 01:07 |
| bodhi_zazen | IMO it would be nice to at least warn people that upgrading may have detrimental effects and they need to be prepared for a fresh install ;) | 01:10 |
| bodhi_zazen | I know, no one reads the warnings or release notes, but, IMO, it is just too easy to click the upgrade button | 01:10 |
| EvilResistance | indeed, but we're stuck on how to process because of the last part of your bug | 01:10 |
| EvilResistance | the part about autoupgrading | 01:10 |
| EvilResistance | s/autoupgrading/autobackup/ | 01:11 |
| EvilResistance | adding autobackup is a huge change | 01:11 |
| EvilResistance | the rest isnt | 01:11 |
| bodhi_zazen | You would think a limited backup would be *fairly* easy to do, but I understand that is a larger change | 01:11 |
| EvilResistance | if we process it solely based on the huge change, we'd have to follow the Triage guide | 01:11 |
| EvilResistance | and mark your bug as invalid and tell you to go to Brainstorm about it | 01:11 |
| bodhi_zazen | I think , at the end of the day, consider data integrity / data loss as you decide how best to triage the bug | 01:11 |
| EvilResistance | on the other hand, if we process it based on the warning, we can triage it | 01:11 |
| EvilResistance | so you see where i'm confused on the matter, and where Daekdroom is | 01:12 |
| EvilResistance | if it were up to me, i'd split off the adding autobackup from your request, and file that separately | 01:12 |
| EvilResistance | but it's not entirely up to me | 01:12 |
| bodhi_zazen | That would be fine | 01:12 |
| EvilResistance | i'll let you do that, i dont have bugcontrol so i can't edit your bug :P | 01:12 |
| EvilResistance | (not fully, at least) | 01:13 |
| bodhi_zazen | I am just saying, as someone who provides support, we see too many people with failed upgrades, and it is not fun to loose data | 01:13 |
| EvilResistance | i agree with you there | 01:13 |
| * EvilResistance is an IT technician, and sees this daily | 01:13 | |
| bodhi_zazen | I am not saying the end user does not have some responsibility, but , make them think about upgrading first | 01:13 |
| EvilResistance | mhm | 01:13 |
| EvilResistance | bodhi_zazen: if you will edit the bug to remove the part about the autobackup system being added, and file that part separately, i'll push for the rest of the bug being triaged | 01:14 |
| EvilResistance | but as it stands, its kinda hard to decide what to do (even Daekdroom agrees with me) | 01:14 |
| bodhi_zazen | done | 01:14 |
| EvilResistance | bug control members: this needs triaging: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/993430 | 01:15 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 993430 in update-manager "Recommend backing up before upgrades" [Wishlist,New] | 01:15 |
| EvilResistance | bodhi_zazen: if you file the part about adding automatic backups into it, we'll handle that separatelyt | 01:17 |
| EvilResistance | separately* | 01:17 |
| Daekdroom | EvilResistance, that'd better go to Brainstorm. | 01:21 |
| EvilResistance | Daekdroom: indeed, actually | 01:21 |
| * EvilResistance briefly forgot about Brainstorm even though he's mentioned it several times | 01:22 | |
| EvilResistance | side effect of active monitoring of 12 channels, i think :/ | 01:22 |
| bodhi_zazen | thanks but-squad | 01:27 |
| bodhi_zazen | *bug | 01:27 |
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| simplew | i have a launchpad account but when i click in button "Report a bug" im redirect to a howto page, how can i report a bug? | 05:38 |
| micahg | simplew: ubuntu-bug followed by the package name | 05:39 |
| simplew | im not running ubuuntu | 05:40 |
| simplew | but theres a major ubuntu bug in the server installer | 05:40 |
| simplew | and that needs to be reported | 05:40 |
| simplew | since that its also being used by other distros | 05:40 |
| simplew | micahg: so how am gona report this bug? | 05:41 |
| micahg | well, the instructions are on that page | 05:42 |
| simplew | micahg: already told im not running ubuntu | 05:42 |
| micahg | simplew: there are instruction on how to file directly | 05:43 |
| micahg | look at the summary on top | 05:43 |
| simplew | micahg: those isntructions for what i can see are valid for whos running ubuntu | 05:43 |
| micahg | simplew: you didn't read the whole page then :) | 05:44 |
| simplew | i alreadu read the page twice | 05:44 |
| andol | simplew: What about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing_bugs_at_Launchpad.net then? | 05:44 |
| simplew | andol: thanks, but i was at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu and each time i clicked to report a bug i was redirected to the howto page | 05:46 |
| simplew | andol: to which package should i refer when this is a problem in the server installer cd? | 05:46 |
| simplew | andol: should i leave the field empty? | 05:48 |
| andol | Wel, to quote https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage | 05:48 |
| andol | "If you encounter the bug when installing from the Alternate or Server CDs, the package is debian-installer." | 05:48 |
| simplew | andol: thabks | 06:01 |
| simplew | andol: done -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/993761 | 06:02 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 993761 in debian-installer "Precise Server Installer does not allow to complete the encrypt partitions procedure" [Undecided,New] | 06:02 |
| simplew | andol: maybe was better to report this bug in debian? | 06:04 |
| andol | simplew: Well, if you can reproduce the bug in Debian, sure. | 06:16 |
| simplew | andol: i thought this was a pure debian package, thus reporting it to debian,, but thats not the case... | 06:18 |
| simplew | andol: i thought this was a pure debian package, thus reporting it to debian,, but if thats not the case... | 06:18 |
| simplew | due to this problem im unable to install a deb based distro with encrypted partitions | 06:20 |
| simplew | since at 3 distros i already saw, this is the isntaller used | 06:21 |
| andol | simplew: If you look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer (for example) you will see that there is an "ubuntu" part of the version number. That means that there is an Ubuntu delta compared to the original Debian package. | 06:21 |
| simplew | andol: i see, wel i just hope that this can be fixed to allow users like me to install ubuntu when we already have encrypted partitions in the hd | 06:22 |
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| nik90 | can anyone mark this bug medium priority https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/993768 | 10:59 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 993768 in unity "Unity Dash obscures keyboard shortcut overlay" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:59 |
| nik90 | thnx | 10:59 |
| PirateKing | hi, could you set bug 990949 to Triaged with medium importance? | 11:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 990949 in gedit-latex-plugin "Editor scrolls down after editing and saving a tex file" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/990949 | 11:25 |
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| hggdh | PirateKing: done, thank you for the heads up on it | 13:29 |
| hggdh | PirateKing: only not Triaged, since it still needs to be reported upstream | 13:30 |
| PirateKing | hggdh: alright, thanks! | 13:30 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek is happening right now in #ubuntu-classroom | 13:51 |
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| GraemeLion | Hi there.. kinda new to the bug squad thing.. I think #993930 may be ready for triage and importance. | 19:01 |
| roadmr | bug 993930 | 19:19 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 993930 in unity "onscreen keyboard doesn't disappear from lock screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/993930 | 19:19 |
| Simplew | to who i need to talk so that a ubuntu bug in debian-installer can be fixed? | 21:12 |
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