[00:02] <s-fox> Anywho, time for me to go. Stuff to do.
[00:02] <s-fox> See you balloons
[00:03] <balloons> see you s-fox
[06:45] <dholbach> good morning
[06:47] <forestpiskie> dholbach: good morning - I hope the sun is still shining for you :)
[06:47] <dholbach> hi forestpiskie
[06:48] <dholbach> forestpiskie, it's still clear over here, but we're supposed to have thunderstorms today - let's see :)
[06:48] <dholbach> how are you doing?
[06:48] <forestpiskie> I'm fine but the weather is dank and dismal ...
[06:49] <dholbach> I'll put on some good music and forget about the weather :)
[06:50] <forestpiskie> I will when I get back from work :)
[06:50] <jono> morning dholbach
[06:50] <forestpiskie> forget all about the day and wait for little one to return from school
[06:50] <forestpiskie> morning jono
[06:50] <dholbach> might also be a good idea to take the dog for a walk before it starts raining :)
[06:50] <jono> hey forestpiskie
[06:50] <dholbach> hey jono
[06:50] <dholbach> how are you doing?
[06:51] <dholbach> jono, ah, while you're here - do you know what's being planned for the last night of UDS? (trying to figure out if I should bring my stuff or not)
[06:51] <jono> dholbach, as far as I am aware it is just a live band that we hired
[06:52] <jono> dholbach, not sure though, you should check with Michelle
[06:52] <dholbach> ok, will do
[08:20] <s-fox> Hi
[08:20] <czajkowski> morning
[08:20] <s-fox> And a wet one at that czajkowski ;) How are you?
[08:20] <czajkowski> not bad thanks
[08:20] <czajkowski> yourself?
[08:20] <s-fox> So so, just going through my inbox trying to decide what is important and what is not.
[08:21] <s-fox> Have you had a good week so far? It has dragged here.
[08:21] <czajkowski> It's been pretty busy, I moved house at the weekend so trying to unpack, get ready for uds workwise and now my back is acting up
[08:21] <czajkowski> s-fox: hear about the job ?
[08:24] <s-fox> czajkowski,  yes, i was offered the job. I spoke with some of the foreign language teachers at the school and they strongly advised I stay away as their experience had been very poor. They are seeing out their contracts and are not interested in renewing it.
[08:25] <s-fox> Consequently I turned the offer down and am continuing looking for a new position.
[08:25] <czajkowski> nods
[08:25] <czajkowski> shame
[08:26] <s-fox> Well, it is better I find out about the issues before I sign the contract.
[08:27] <czajkowski> yes this  is true, but you might have gotten on differently. best of luck job hunting
[08:28] <s-fox> Perhaps so. Thank you for the wishes.
[08:28] <s-fox> Sorry to hear about your back
[08:28] <s-fox> Did the move go okay? You mentioned it last week(?) i think
[08:30] <czajkowski> yup all set up in the new place
[08:30] <czajkowski> still in London
[08:31] <s-fox> What is it like living in London? I don't do large cities. LOL
[08:31] <czajkowski> it's great I love it
[08:32] <czajkowski> it's different every 4-5 miles
[08:32] <czajkowski> I don't feel like a tourist living here and it's not that large.
[08:32] <czajkowski> well it is, it just doesn't feel it tbh
[08:32] <czajkowski> I lived in Dublin for years, ad that feels like being a tourist
[08:34] <s-fox> Ahh, I see. :)
[08:34] <s-fox> I live out in the sticks czajkowski, haha. http://i.imgur.com/ha1lX.jpg
[08:34] <s-fox> Nice and quiet
[08:35] <czajkowski> wel there is a massive park beside me that has boating and music stand and games
[08:35] <czajkowski> back in .Ie I live in the countryside
[08:37] <s-fox> Oh that isn't so bad then :-) No greenery would drive me insane.
[12:13] <jo-erlend> «Ubuntu can collect anonymous information that helps developers improve it. All information collected is covered by our privacy policy» <-- That's from the Privacy dialog in System Settings. That's not done by default, is it? And nothing is sent if I don't give my permission? I wish it was a little more explicit.
[12:19] <dholbach> no, it's not default - only if you  [x]  it
[12:19] <dholbach> it's for http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ ... if you are talking about the software properties dialog
[12:20] <dholbach> popcon sends anonymous data which can be quite useful to developers, ie: package X is outdated and nobody maintains it and has many bugs - can it be removed or do many still have it installed, etc.
[12:38] <jo-erlend> dholbach, I'm talking about System Settings > Privacy > Diagnostics.
[12:40] <jo-erlend> it's not clear to me what it's actually about.
[12:57] <akgraner> jcastro - so I am looking at the release schedule and  adding notes to my calendar  - did the Community team (read that as balloons in this case) what to focus on community testing one of the weeks between Alpha 2 and 3 as well as the week Between Beta 1 and 2 or the weeks between Beta 2 and Final release?
[12:57] <akgraner> If so I'll add those in as well.
[13:18] <AlanBell> jcastro: o/ what is this? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20397/community-q-irc-workshops/
[13:26] <dholbach> jo-erlend, the link on that dialog leads to http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/privacypolicy?crashdb - so I assume it is about sending information about program crashes
[13:56] <nigelb> dholbach: All set for your session? :)
[13:56] <dholbach> nigelb, I just made a pot of tea, so yes :)
[13:57] <nigelb> \o/
[13:59] <dholbach> nigelb, can you +v me?
[14:00] <nigelb> dholbach: oops, the bot should have +v'd you
[14:01] <nigelb> heh, ok, you op'd yourself.
[14:28] <alourie> hello
[14:29] <s-fox> Hello alourie
[14:30] <alourie> hi s-fox
[14:30] <s-fox> How are you?
[14:30] <alourie> good actually :-)
[14:30] <alourie> how are you?
[14:30] <s-fox> Good show
[14:30] <alourie> show?
[14:30] <s-fox> I mean, good :)
[14:30] <alourie> right :-)
[14:31] <s-fox> I am basking in the glory of having spent 3 hours writing some javascript
[14:31] <s-fox> And thinking how simple it actually is ;)
[14:31] <alourie> ah
[14:31] <s-fox> alourie,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/964750/
[14:32] <alourie> isn't it wonderful to be able to appreciate the code as if it was a poem? :-)
[14:33] <alourie> it happens to me lately more often
[14:33] <s-fox> I haven't thought about it that much to be honest. I suppose you can appreciate good code
[14:33] <s-fox> =)
[14:34] <alourie> s-fox: can't you?
[14:34] <s-fox> alourie,  I think it depends if I have enjoyed writing it or not. Sometimes a problem can give me big headaches
[14:34] <s-fox> =)
[14:34] <alourie> yes, true
[14:34] <s-fox> But othertimes when you get it right first time and you think "wow, this is awesome"
[14:35] <alourie> but I often enjoy the fact that I'd solved the problem eventually, if it resulted in beautiful code
[14:35] <alourie> even if it took a long time
[14:35] <s-fox> Would you be happy if you solved a problem, but the solution was ugly and hacky?
[14:36] <alourie> pragmatically happy - maybe
[14:36] <alourie> just that it is solved
[14:36] <alourie> but not "happy" happy :-)
[14:36] <s-fox> Maybe you could take it as inspiration and improve it ?
[14:36] <alourie> of course
[14:36] <alourie> that's what takes the most of time in my coding mostly
[14:36] <alourie> beautifying working stuff
[14:36] <alourie> simplifying
[14:38] <s-fox> Code that can only be maintained by yourself is not good, simplifying code and documenting is very important
[14:38] <alourie> exactly
[16:03] <greg-g> dholbach: hey, I'm going to send you another email to translate for the Ubuntu Austria team, ok? :)
[16:03] <dholbach> greg-g, sure
[16:03] <czajkowski> dholbach: thank you
[16:03] <greg-g> yes, thanks much, dholbach
[16:04] <s-fox> Goodbye.
[16:04] <paultag> alles gute :)
[16:04] <nigelb> paultag!
[16:04] <paultag> nigelb!
[16:04] <nigelb> paultag: How
[16:04] <nigelb> How've you been?
[16:04] <nigelb> … apparently I can't type :P
[16:05] <paultag> nigelb: not bad, not bad. Living the dream, you know. Work's awesome. Debian's been treating me great, finished the T&S, I think (which means now I just have to wait ;))
[16:05] <paultag> nigelb: straight chilln'. How've you been?
[16:06] <nigelb> paultag: Nice nice! DD soon?  I'm good.  Long hours at work.  Waiting for some bureaucracy to get done, the usual :)
[16:06] <paultag> nigelb: yeah, I hope so :) that's the last part of the quizzing, if you will. How's mozilla-stuff?
[16:07] <nigelb> paultag: Nice.  Mozilla stuff is going well. So far so good.
[16:21] <czajkowski> dholbach: where is the link to all your music again I need to spread the love to the LP Team and educate them on music
[16:22] <dholbach> czajkowski, if you mean mixtapes, then http://www.mixcloud.com/dholbach/ :)
[17:25] <pleia2> czajkowski: I'm going to send out an email about "community events" at UDS in a bit, anything you need to add to the photo walk event before I send out the link?
[17:26] <czajkowski> pleia2: not heard back from gmb
[17:26] <czajkowski> just that it's happening and harass him or me on irc
[17:26] <czajkowski> and sign up on the wiki if interested
[17:26] <czajkowski> pleia2: thanks
[17:26] <pleia2> ok, thanks :)
[17:26] <czajkowski> harass/poke/ask
[17:26] <czajkowski> you know :)
[17:26] <pleia2> hehe
[17:54] <czajkowski> jcastro: mhall119 can one of you please schedule http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20662/community-council-code-of-conduct-review/
[17:54] <jcastro> mhall119: can you handle schedule requests for a bit? I am firefighting
[17:54] <czajkowski> thanks
[17:55] <czajkowski> sorry didnt know which to ping
[18:00] <mhall119> jcastro: sure
[18:00] <jcastro> you ping the track lead usually
[18:00] <jcastro> but in community case he would ping us so you did the right thing by skipping him. :)
[18:02] <mhall119> czajkowski: scheduled
[18:02] <czajkowski> cheers
[18:02] <dholbach> alright - see you tomorrow my friends
[18:19] <cjohnston> czajkowski: it would have scheduled automaticaly too
[18:35] <AlanBell> jcastro: o/
[21:14]  * greg-g is enjoying this mix from dholbach http://www.mixcloud.com/dholbach/live-set-with-mc-massiv-la-gaza-trickster-2012-03-24/
[21:15]  * greg-g is a little late, yes
[22:52] <bkerensa> jono: can I bring some Moz swag to UDS?
[22:52] <bkerensa> :D
[22:54] <pleia2> someone brought thunderbird stickers last time
[22:54] <bkerensa> pleia2: ahh ok well I will bring a few bags of lanyards, stickers and silicone bracelets then
[22:54] <bkerensa> :D
[22:58] <MrChrisDruif> bkerensa; ghehe
[23:00] <bkerensa> pleia2: I also have some Creative Common swag too
[23:00] <greg-g> +s
[23:15] <popey> one UDS didnt we have bracelets
[23:15] <popey> ubuntu ones
[23:15] <popey> like you get at concerts / festivals
[23:16] <pleia2> the plastic ones?
[23:16] <MrChrisDruif> Ugh, not those horrid plastic ones!
[23:17] <popey> no, they were material
[23:17] <popey> with a plastic thing to tighten it
[23:17] <mhall119> popey: that was UDS-N, the wrist bands were from the Florida LoCo Team, thanks to itnet7
[23:18] <popey> ahhh
[23:18] <mhall119> oh, wait, you're talking something different I think
[23:18] <mhall119> ours were the orange plastic/rubber ones
[23:18] <popey> these had a green plastic thing
[23:18] <MrChrisDruif> I'd like one that is similar to those livestrong bracelets, but then orange and with ubuntu on them
[23:18] <popey> yeah, they weren't rubber
[23:18] <mhall119> MrChrisDruif: that's what ours were
[23:18] <MrChrisDruif> Nice!
[23:19] <mhall119> MrChrisDruif: itnet7 might still have some
[23:19]  * MrChrisDruif isn't going to this UDS (again)
[23:22] <MrChrisDruif> And I should be going to bed
[23:22] <MrChrisDruif> Sleep well everyone
[23:22] <MrChrisDruif> Date and time in the Netherlands: Fri May  4 01:22:42