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RAOFjcastro: You need to stop teasing G+ with blank Electronic Arts sessions :)00:52
RAOFWooo!  ddebs support into soyuz?  Yes please!01:02
cyphermoxRAOF: cool01:05
ajmitchRAOF: it wasn't just that jcastro taunting us01:11
cyphermoxyay, I can now select text in email again! :D01:13
mdeslaurcyphermox: oh! I want some of that! :P01:15
mdeslaurmost annoying bug ever :)01:15
cyphermoxyup yup01:16
cyphermoxthere's a patch on the upstream bug; I'll upload to quantal in a minute, then start shepherding it through the SRU process01:16
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pittiGood morning04:37
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chrisccoulsongood morning everyone08:56
xclaesseoh, finally understood why all icones appear in duplicate in gnome-shell's overview, need to disable "Debian" directory from alacarte (the menu editor tool)09:00
xclaessecan't that be done by default in ubuntu please?09:00
xclaesseaccording to what I see by googling, that happens for unity as well...09:04
chrisccoulsonxclaesse, there is no "Debian" directory by default09:04
chrisccoulsonat least, i don't have one here....09:04
xclaessewhat pulled it then?09:04
xclaesseis menu-xdg installed by default?09:05
chrisccoulsonxclaesse, no, it's not installed by default09:05
chrisccoulsonxclaesse, did you install the "gnome" meta package? it seems that recommends menu-xdg for some very strange reason09:06
xclaesseright, that's it09:06
xclaessecan it be removed from deps if it provides nothing useful, please?09:07
chrisccoulsonxclaesse, i guess so. did you report a bug?09:08
xclaessechrisccoulson, I fell stupid, but I've already looked many times, but launchpad does not seems to have a "I WANT TO REPORT A BUG" button09:11
chrisccoulsonxclaesse, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome3/. it's on the RHS for me09:12
xclaessehow wrong can it be that "Report a bug" link goes to a page not telling how to do it09:12
chrisccoulsonxclaesse, oh, you get redirected, don't you?09:12
xclaesseohh, so "Report a bug" is useful only if you go to the package page09:13
Laneyyou're supposed to use ubuntu-bug, not the launchpad web interface09:14
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's true, although it probably doesn't make that much difference in this case :)09:15
xclaessechrisccoulson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome3/+bug/99384409:15
ubot2Launchpad bug 993844 in meta-gnome3 "drop menu-xdg dependency" [Undecided,New]09:15
chrisccoulsonbut for firefox, I enforce that quite vigorously now, and just close bugs that are reported via the launchpad interface ;)09:15
Laneywell, it does in that the web interface is deliberately making it difficult09:15
chrisccoulsonxclaesse, thanks09:15
xclaessechrisccoulson, speaking about bugs when installing that meta-package: grub displays a "debian" image after installing gnome-desktop-environment09:16
Laneythose are really debian metapackages09:17
Laneyperhaps we should think about getting them out of ubuntu09:17
xclaesseLaney, ubuntu needs at least a package i-want-the-real-gnome-desktop09:17
chrisccoulsonyeah, it does seem like this is the sort of thing that shouldn't be based on debian09:18
chrisccoulsoni'm sure we used to carry quite a large delta for the gnome2 metapackages09:18
xclaessechrisccoulson, I guess canonical does zero testing of gnome env now? :/09:19
chrisccoulsonxclaesse, well, i don't. but i can't speak for my other colleagues :)09:19
micahgwhy not just collaborate more with Debian to reduce the delata09:20
Laneyi think it's reasonable to expect differences here09:21
Laneyperhaps a normal delta would be alright though09:21
micahgand things like different images can be kept in Debian09:21
xclaesseany idea what package provides grub's theme?09:21
xclaessechrisccoulson, reported that one as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome3/+bug/99386510:01
ubot2Launchpad bug 993865 in meta-gnome3 "desktop-base changes grub's theme to debian" [Undecided,New]10:01
davidcallepitti, ping10:03
pittihello davidcalle10:03
davidcallepitti, how are you?10:03
pittiquite fine, thanks! just made some progress on debugging a bug I've chased for a week now10:04
davidcallepitti, I would need your advice on a potential sru. There is a localization bug in the Video lens ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/993002 ), that has been fixed yesterday with the help of experimented ln18 people from #ubuntu-translators. Do you think it would qualified as an sru? Or backport?10:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 993002 in unity "Unity video lens doesn't work when installing in Cuba country" [Undecided,Fix committed]10:06
MrChrisDruifYeah, I happened to have noticed my grub had the debian theme, but I didn't know the source10:07
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pittidavidcalle: that's not a good backport, it shoudl be an SRU10:12
pittidavidcalle: backports is for new versions, SRUs are for bug fixes10:12
davidcallepitti, ok10:12
davidcallepitti, I'll modify the report to be sru compliant, and assign ubuntu-sru. Anything else I need to do?10:13
pittidavidcalle: you need to upload a fix to precise-proposed10:17
pittior get it uploaded through your sponsor10:17
davidcallepitti, sure, I was talking about the administrative side of things :) Thanks a lot.10:18
pittidavidcalle: no, that's pretty much it -- have a bug, link to it in changelog, upload it10:18
pittiwe try to make it as easy as possible10:18
pittiand make sure that the bug has reproduction steps10:19
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ricotzchrisccoulson, hi :), could you push your firefox 13b2 package to quantal too?11:36
chrisccoulsonricotz, not when it doesn't build11:37
ricotzchrisccoulson, so you already know it doesnt build?11:37
chrisccoulsonricotz, yeah11:37
ricotzi see :\11:37
Sweetsharkricotz: ping?12:20
ricotzSweetshark, pong12:20
Sweetsharkricotz: did you do any work on 3.5.3 backporting or are you planning to?12:27
ricotzSweetshark, lucid and oneiric are currently building12:28
Sweetsharkricotz: ah, great! I will reply to http://sweetshark.livejournal.com/11319.html?view=16695#t16695 quoting your awesomeness then ;)12:29
ricotzSweetshark, will do natty too later today12:29
ricotzSweetshark, but lucid amd64 might fail12:30
Sweetsharkricotz: ppa fs size again?12:32
ricotzSweetshark, ah, sorry, i considered your precise ppa upload as testbuild which can be dropped if it is published in precise12:32
ricotzSweetshark, yeah, maybe the builder is blacklisted but the lucid build is smaller12:33
ricotzthe oneiric builds should be fine12:34
Sweetsharkricotz: oh, no, did you just delete the 3.5.3 precise upload?12:34
ricotzSweetshark, i did :\, this morning12:35
Sweetsharkricotz: arrgh, that one is published in >100 websites as here you can update easily!12:36
ricotzlet me try something12:36
Sweetsharkpitti: is there a way to maybe copy the 3.5.3 precise-proposed package over to the libreoffice ppa?12:36
pittiSweetshark: yes, can do that12:37
pittiSweetshark: what's the URL of the PPA?12:37
Sweetsharkpitti: please do for major shitstorm avoidance.12:37
Sweetsharkpitti: ppa:libreoffice/ppa12:38
ricotzpitti, doing it already12:38
pittiricotz: oh, you can do that from the web uI?12:39
ricotzyes, if it doesnt timeout :\12:39
ricotzpitti, please go ahead if you like12:39
Sweetshark(as a sideeffect we will have all l10n in the ppa then and not only 12 langs, which is kinda nice).12:40
pittiSweetshark: to clarify, you mean source+binaries, to the PPA for "precise"?12:40
ricotzpitti, ah it worked12:40
pitti2012-05-03 12:40:19 ERROR   libreoffice 1:3.5.3-0ubuntu1 in precise (same version has unpublished binaries in the destination archive for Precise, please wait for them to be published before copying)12:40
pittiI suppose ricotz beat me to it12:40
Sweetsharkpitti: yes12:40
pittiyep, there it is12:41
* ricotz feels better now12:41
Sweetsharkoh, and we have ppc additionally there, also nice.12:42
ricotzSweetshark, yeah, not sure if ppc really get published12:43
Sweetsharkpitti: "all builds were successfull, but have not yet been published" <- does that mean amd64/i386 too?12:44
pittiI hope ricotz copied the binaries, too12:44
ricotzSweetshark, it takes some time12:44
ricotzthe publishing process, i mean12:45
ricotzpitti, i did12:45
Sweetsharkricotz: please dont delete stuff from me in that ppa without pinging me first. If I do testbuilds I do them locally or in one of my really personal ppas.12:45
ricotzSweetshark, ok12:46
ricotzg2g, bye12:46
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cyphermoxpitti: wireless-tools done.13:43
pitticyphermox: cool, thanks13:44
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pittigood night everyone!15:34
thomasprpitti just one question15:35
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dobeychrisccoulson: ooh. are we going to start shipping firefox with gstreamer backend now? :)19:33
bob__when trying to test 12.04 from cd no launcher, whats up?19:34
dobeybob__: a bug maybe? you should file it :)19:35
bob__where is that done at?19:36
micahgdobey: it would only be possible in oneiric and later19:37
dobeymicahg: that's fine by me19:38
dobeybob__: you can run "ubuntu-bug unity" on the live cd, or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/unity/+filebug19:39
dobeybob__: the former is better, as it will collect useful information about your hardware19:40
micahgdobey: the second link will redirect to a help page for people who are non members of bug control19:41
bob__how does one get to the terminal to do that?19:41
bob__k thanks19:41
beylerchromium http://i46.tinypic.com/2cp9u28.png  What is the reason it 12.04 xubuntu19:47
micahgbeyler: try #xubuntu19:50
beylermicahg: does not respond to anybody out there19:52
micahgthen try #ubuntu19:53
beylermicahg: k19:55
robert_ancell2RAOF: You gone broke my quantal desktop21:08
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seb128robert_ancell2, hey21:09
seb128robert_ancell2, how are you?21:09
robert_ancell2seb128: good, but stuck in text mode21:10
Sarvattrobert_ancell2: downgrade libxfont to 1:1.4.4-1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfont/+bug/99274521:10
ubot2Launchpad bug 992745 in libxfont "X doesn't load in Quantal, downgrading libxfont1 to Precise version fixes it : could not open default font 'fixed'" [Critical,Fix committed]21:10
seb128robert_ancell2, quantal? not scared ;-)21:10
Sarvattit just got uploaded to debian to be synced to quantal an hour or so ago21:10
robert_ancell2Sarvatt: ah, that's what I'm looking for21:10
robert_ancell2Sarvatt: Is there any easy way to do the downgrade?  (no web browser to find the link)21:11
robert_ancell2seb128: precise was working too well :)21:11
seb128robert_ancell2, except that lightdm forces me to reboot every second login :p21:12
Sarvattrobert_ancell2: i386 or amd64?21:12
seb128robert_ancell2, mterry got a fix btw21:12
robert_ancell2Sarvatt: amd6421:12
robert_ancell2seb128, well that sounds fun - which bug is that one?21:12
seb128robert_ancell2, add a precise source and sudo apt-get install libxfont1/precise ?21:12
Sarvattrobert_ancell2: wget http://goo.gl/drqCo :)21:12
mterryrobert_ancell2, yeeah was just mailing you21:13
robert_ancell2Sarvatt: easy, cheers21:13
mterryrobert_ancell2, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity-greeter/986967/+merge/10462221:13
seb128robert_ancell2, the "alpha never reachs 1 and so the greeter doesn't transition"21:13
mterryrobert_ancell2, and your idea to move to Year.Month versioning seems good21:13
robert_ancell2Sarvatt: You sent me the link for 1.4.5-1 instead of 1.4.4-121:15
Sarvattrobert_ancell2: shoot, sorry!21:15
robert_ancell2mterry: cool21:15
robert_ancell2mterry: we just need to convince the unity team to do the same21:15
Sarvattrobert_ancell2: http://goo.gl/PYdyf21:15
Sarvattthats libxfont1_1.4.4-1_amd64.deb21:16
robert_ancell2yay, back to graphics!21:17
seb128Sarvatt, what happened to "if you break Ubuntu you fix or revert it"? ;-)21:17
Sarvattseb128: who broke ubuntu? (i cant upload anything either) :P21:17
Sarvattlibxfont (1:1.4.5-2) unstable; urgency=low21:17
Sarvatt .21:17
Sarvatt * Ease sync for Ubuntu: strip -Bsymbolic-functions from LDFLAGS21:17
Sarvatt   (LP: #992745).21:17
Sarvattsome toolchain change and an auto sync broke it21:18
seb128toolchain didn't change recently I think21:18
seb128oh, a robert_ancell21:18
robert_ancellseb128, I think the assumption that we can just autolayer Ubuntu on top of Debian and everything will magically work broke it21:19
Sarvattseb128: is there some way a core-dev can trigger a sync without filling a bug? it was uploaded to debian about an hour ago and might be able to be synced now21:19
Sarvattstill too new to requestsync it, been trying21:20
seb128robert_ancell, yeah, that's because we have an incompatible toolchain with them, which is a bit of an issue21:20
stgraberSarvatt: syncpackage -d sid -r quantal <package>21:20
seb128Sarvatt, it can't be officially synced if not published I think21:20
stgraberSarvatt: though LP usually needs much more than an hour to notice the new package in Debian21:20
seb128i.e the tools don't look to incoming21:20
seb128debian publisher doesn't run as often that the Debian one, like twice a day21:21
seb128robert_ancell, so yeah, my lightdm issue was the "logging in..." greeter stuff21:22
seb128robert_ancell, should we wait for other fixes to SRU or just get one for that one?21:23
robert_ancellseb128, is it very widespread?  I'm surprised it's only shown post release21:23
robert_ancellI'd say release immediately21:23
seb128robert_ancell, mterry: the bug is annoying enough that I would prefer to not wait post UDS to SRU it21:23
seb128robert_ancell, dunno, we got a few duplicates and a few people mentioning it on IRC, and I and pitti did hit it21:23
seb128robert_ancell, i.e that's enough people around that I guess that lot of users will hit it, though for some reason it doesn't happen on first login and not everybody user multiple users or log out and in again21:24
seb128well anyway21:24
seb128mterry, please SRU it, thanks ;-)21:25
seb128I can verify the SRU once it's in21:25
mterryrobert_ancell, did you have anything else you wanted to squeeze into this SRU?21:25
robert_ancellmterry, no21:25
mterryrobert_ancell, OK, will package it up21:25
seb128robert_ancell, btw you don't have any idea about the multimonitor greeter handling not working until you connect,disconnect a monitor?21:26
dobeyrobert_ancell: squeeze some love into it.21:26
robert_ancelldobey, creepy21:26
seb128robert_ancell, i.e it goes on mirror mode on boot21:26
seb128robert_ancell, if that's an easy fix it would be nice to sneak that in as well, multimonitor is cool when it works ;-)21:26
robert_ancellseb128, no, it probably needs an Xpert to look at that one.  I know mirror mode is the default, though I don't know why g-s-d doesn't override that when it starts21:27
robert_ancellperhaps we have to kick g-s-d?21:27
seb128robert_ancell, I though we didn't enable xrandr in unity-greeter?21:27
seb128oh, no, it's in the enabled list21:28
robert_ancellseb128, yeah21:28
seb128so yeah, maybe that's the issue21:28
mterryjasoncwarner_, ping, you around?22:06
mterryjasoncwarner_, want you to try a fix for the log in issue22:06
mterryjasoncwarner_, enable http://launchpad.net/~mterry/+archive/ppa2 and let me know22:06
mterryseb128, fyi, I'm waiting on user responses before uploading the SRU22:32
seb128mterry, screw users!22:32
seb128mterry, what you mean there is that you don't trust me right?22:32
kenvandinemterry, don't answer that... it's a trap :)22:32
mterryI suspect they are just amd64 users (forgot that hadn't built yet when I sent them there)22:33
seb128mterry, I did comment pointing that a bit earlier22:35
mterryyup, want to see what they say22:36
RAOFrobert_ancell: I was wondering why you were up so early.  But you're now all the way over *there*, aren't you!22:55
robert_ancellRAOF, yep22:55

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