[00:52] <RAOF> jcastro: You need to stop teasing G+ with blank Electronic Arts sessions :)
[01:02] <RAOF> Wooo!  ddebs support into soyuz?  Yes please!
[01:05] <cyphermox> RAOF: cool
[01:11] <ajmitch> RAOF: it wasn't just that jcastro taunting us
[01:13] <cyphermox> yay, I can now select text in email again! :D
[01:14] <RAOF> Funky!
[01:14] <cyphermox> indeed.
[01:15] <mdeslaur> cyphermox: oh! I want some of that! :P
[01:15] <mdeslaur> most annoying bug ever :)
[01:16] <cyphermox> yup yup
[01:16] <cyphermox> there's a patch on the upstream bug; I'll upload to quantal in a minute, then start shepherding it through the SRU process
[04:37] <pitti> Good morning
[08:56] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[09:00] <xclaesse> oh, finally understood why all icones appear in duplicate in gnome-shell's overview, need to disable "Debian" directory from alacarte (the menu editor tool)
[09:00] <xclaesse> can't that be done by default in ubuntu please?
[09:04] <xclaesse> according to what I see by googling, that happens for unity as well...
[09:04] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, there is no "Debian" directory by default
[09:04] <chrisccoulson> at least, i don't have one here....
[09:04] <xclaesse> what pulled it then?
[09:05] <xclaesse> is menu-xdg installed by default?
[09:05] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, no, it's not installed by default
[09:06] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, did you install the "gnome" meta package? it seems that recommends menu-xdg for some very strange reason
[09:06] <xclaesse> right, that's it
[09:07] <xclaesse> can it be removed from deps if it provides nothing useful, please?
[09:08] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, i guess so. did you report a bug?
[09:11] <xclaesse> chrisccoulson, I fell stupid, but I've already looked many times, but launchpad does not seems to have a "I WANT TO REPORT A BUG" button
[09:12] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome3/. it's on the RHS for me
[09:12] <xclaesse> how wrong can it be that "Report a bug" link goes to a page not telling how to do it
[09:12] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, oh, you get redirected, don't you?
[09:13] <xclaesse> ohh, so "Report a bug" is useful only if you go to the package page
[09:13] <xclaesse> waw
[09:13] <xclaesse> seriously...
[09:14] <Laney> you're supposed to use ubuntu-bug, not the launchpad web interface
[09:15] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that's true, although it probably doesn't make that much difference in this case :)
[09:15] <xclaesse> chrisccoulson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome3/+bug/993844
[09:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 993844 in meta-gnome3 "drop menu-xdg dependency" [Undecided,New]
[09:15] <chrisccoulson> but for firefox, I enforce that quite vigorously now, and just close bugs that are reported via the launchpad interface ;)
[09:15] <Laney> well, it does in that the web interface is deliberately making it difficult
[09:15] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, thanks
[09:16] <xclaesse> chrisccoulson, speaking about bugs when installing that meta-package: grub displays a "debian" image after installing gnome-desktop-environment
[09:17] <Laney> those are really debian metapackages
[09:17] <Laney> perhaps we should think about getting them out of ubuntu
[09:17] <xclaesse> Laney, ubuntu needs at least a package i-want-the-real-gnome-desktop
[09:18] <Laney> yes
[09:18] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it does seem like this is the sort of thing that shouldn't be based on debian
[09:18] <chrisccoulson> i'm sure we used to carry quite a large delta for the gnome2 metapackages
[09:19] <xclaesse> chrisccoulson, I guess canonical does zero testing of gnome env now? :/
[09:19] <chrisccoulson> xclaesse, well, i don't. but i can't speak for my other colleagues :)
[09:20] <micahg> why not just collaborate more with Debian to reduce the delata
[09:20] <micahg> *delta
[09:21] <Laney> i think it's reasonable to expect differences here
[09:21] <Laney> perhaps a normal delta would be alright though
[09:21] <micahg> and things like different images can be kept in Debian
[09:21] <xclaesse> any idea what package provides grub's theme?
[09:27] <mlankhorst> morning
[10:01] <xclaesse> chrisccoulson, reported that one as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome3/+bug/993865
[10:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 993865 in meta-gnome3 "desktop-base changes grub's theme to debian" [Undecided,New]
[10:03] <davidcalle> pitti, ping
[10:03] <pitti> hello davidcalle
[10:03] <davidcalle> pitti, how are you?
[10:04] <pitti> quite fine, thanks! just made some progress on debugging a bug I've chased for a week now
[10:06] <davidcalle> pitti, I would need your advice on a potential sru. There is a localization bug in the Video lens ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/993002 ), that has been fixed yesterday with the help of experimented ln18 people from #ubuntu-translators. Do you think it would qualified as an sru? Or backport?
[10:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 993002 in unity "Unity video lens doesn't work when installing in Cuba country" [Undecided,Fix committed]
[10:07] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, I happened to have noticed my grub had the debian theme, but I didn't know the source
[10:12] <pitti> davidcalle: that's not a good backport, it shoudl be an SRU
[10:12] <pitti> davidcalle: backports is for new versions, SRUs are for bug fixes
[10:12] <davidcalle> pitti, ok
[10:13] <davidcalle> pitti, I'll modify the report to be sru compliant, and assign ubuntu-sru. Anything else I need to do?
[10:17] <pitti> davidcalle: you need to upload a fix to precise-proposed
[10:17] <pitti> or get it uploaded through your sponsor
[10:18] <davidcalle> pitti, sure, I was talking about the administrative side of things :) Thanks a lot.
[10:18] <pitti> davidcalle: no, that's pretty much it -- have a bug, link to it in changelog, upload it
[10:18] <pitti> we try to make it as easy as possible
[10:19] <pitti> and make sure that the bug has reproduction steps
[11:36] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, hi :), could you push your firefox 13b2 package to quantal too?
[11:37] <chrisccoulson> ricotz, not when it doesn't build
[11:37] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, so you already know it doesnt build?
[11:37] <chrisccoulson> ricotz, yeah
[11:37] <ricotz> i see :\
[12:20] <Sweetshark> ricotz: ping?
[12:20] <ricotz> Sweetshark, pong
[12:27] <Sweetshark> ricotz: did you do any work on 3.5.3 backporting or are you planning to?
[12:28] <ricotz> Sweetshark, lucid and oneiric are currently building
[12:28] <ricotz> https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ppa/+builds?build_text=&build_state=building
[12:29] <Sweetshark> ricotz: ah, great! I will reply to http://sweetshark.livejournal.com/11319.html?view=16695#t16695 quoting your awesomeness then ;)
[12:29] <ricotz> Sweetshark, will do natty too later today
[12:30] <ricotz> Sweetshark, but lucid amd64 might fail
[12:32] <Sweetshark> ricotz: ppa fs size again?
[12:32] <ricotz> Sweetshark, ah, sorry, i considered your precise ppa upload as testbuild which can be dropped if it is published in precise
[12:33] <ricotz> Sweetshark, yeah, maybe the builder is blacklisted but the lucid build is smaller
[12:34] <ricotz> the oneiric builds should be fine
[12:34] <Sweetshark> ricotz: oh, no, did you just delete the 3.5.3 precise upload?
[12:35] <ricotz> Sweetshark, i did :\, this morning
[12:36] <Sweetshark> ricotz: arrgh, that one is published in >100 websites as here you can update easily!
[12:36] <Sweetshark> *grmble*
[12:36] <ricotz> let me try something
[12:36] <Sweetshark> pitti: is there a way to maybe copy the 3.5.3 precise-proposed package over to the libreoffice ppa?
[12:37] <pitti> Sweetshark: yes, can do that
[12:37] <pitti> Sweetshark: what's the URL of the PPA?
[12:37] <Sweetshark> pitti: please do for major shitstorm avoidance.
[12:38] <Sweetshark> pitti: ppa:libreoffice/ppa
[12:38] <ricotz> pitti, doing it already
[12:39] <pitti> ricotz: oh, you can do that from the web uI?
[12:39] <ricotz> yes, if it doesnt timeout :\
[12:39] <ricotz> pitti, please go ahead if you like
[12:40] <Sweetshark> (as a sideeffect we will have all l10n in the ppa then and not only 12 langs, which is kinda nice).
[12:40] <pitti> Sweetshark: to clarify, you mean source+binaries, to the PPA for "precise"?
[12:40] <ricotz> pitti, ah it worked
[12:40] <pitti> 2012-05-03 12:40:19 ERROR   libreoffice 1:3.5.3-0ubuntu1 in precise (same version has unpublished binaries in the destination archive for Precise, please wait for them to be published before copying)
[12:40] <pitti> I suppose ricotz beat me to it
[12:40] <Sweetshark> pitti: yes
[12:41] <pitti> yep, there it is
[12:41]  * ricotz feels better now
[12:42] <Sweetshark> oh, and we have ppc additionally there, also nice.
[12:43] <ricotz> Sweetshark, yeah, not sure if ppc really get published
[12:44] <Sweetshark> pitti: "all builds were successfull, but have not yet been published" <- does that mean amd64/i386 too?
[12:44] <pitti> I hope ricotz copied the binaries, too
[12:44] <ricotz> Sweetshark, it takes some time
[12:45] <ricotz> the publishing process, i mean
[12:45] <ricotz> pitti, i did
[12:45] <Sweetshark> ricotz: please dont delete stuff from me in that ppa without pinging me first. If I do testbuilds I do them locally or in one of my really personal ppas.
[12:46] <ricotz> Sweetshark, ok
[12:46] <ricotz> g2g, bye
[13:43] <cyphermox> pitti: wireless-tools done.
[13:44] <pitti> cyphermox: cool, thanks
[15:34] <pitti> good night everyone!
[15:35] <thomaspr> pitti just one question
[16:12] <seb128> hey
[16:13] <mlankhorst> heya
[19:33] <dobey> chrisccoulson: ooh. are we going to start shipping firefox with gstreamer backend now? :)
[19:34] <bob__> when trying to test 12.04 from cd no launcher, whats up?
[19:35] <dobey> bob__: a bug maybe? you should file it :)
[19:36] <bob__> where is that done at?
[19:37] <micahg> dobey: it would only be possible in oneiric and later
[19:38] <dobey> micahg: that's fine by me
[19:39] <dobey> bob__: you can run "ubuntu-bug unity" on the live cd, or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/unity/+filebug
[19:40] <dobey> bob__: the former is better, as it will collect useful information about your hardware
[19:41] <micahg> dobey: the second link will redirect to a help page for people who are non members of bug control
[19:41] <bob__> how does one get to the terminal to do that?
[19:41] <ogra_> ctrl-alt-T
[19:41] <bob__> k thanks
[19:47] <beyler> chromium http://i46.tinypic.com/2cp9u28.png  What is the reason it 12.04 xubuntu
[19:50] <micahg> beyler: try #xubuntu
[19:52] <beyler> micahg: does not respond to anybody out there
[19:53] <micahg> then try #ubuntu
[19:55] <beyler> micahg: k
[21:07] <robert_ancell2> names
[21:07] <robert_ancell2> \
[21:08] <robert_ancell2> RAOF: You gone broke my quantal desktop
[21:09] <seb128> robert_ancell2, hey
[21:09] <seb128> robert_ancell2, how are you?
[21:10] <robert_ancell2> seb128: good, but stuck in text mode
[21:10] <Sarvatt> robert_ancell2: downgrade libxfont to 1:1.4.4-1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfont/+bug/992745
[21:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 992745 in libxfont "X doesn't load in Quantal, downgrading libxfont1 to Precise version fixes it : could not open default font 'fixed'" [Critical,Fix committed]
[21:10] <seb128> robert_ancell2, quantal? not scared ;-)
[21:10] <Sarvatt> it just got uploaded to debian to be synced to quantal an hour or so ago
[21:10] <robert_ancell2> Sarvatt: ah, that's what I'm looking for
[21:11] <robert_ancell2> Sarvatt: Is there any easy way to do the downgrade?  (no web browser to find the link)
[21:11] <robert_ancell2> seb128: precise was working too well :)
[21:12] <seb128> robert_ancell2, except that lightdm forces me to reboot every second login :p
[21:12] <Sarvatt> robert_ancell2: i386 or amd64?
[21:12] <seb128> robert_ancell2, mterry got a fix btw
[21:12] <robert_ancell2> Sarvatt: amd64
[21:12] <robert_ancell2> seb128, well that sounds fun - which bug is that one?
[21:12] <seb128> robert_ancell2, add a precise source and sudo apt-get install libxfont1/precise ?
[21:12] <Sarvatt> robert_ancell2: wget http://goo.gl/drqCo :)
[21:13] <mterry> robert_ancell2, yeeah was just mailing you
[21:13] <robert_ancell2> Sarvatt: easy, cheers
[21:13] <mterry> robert_ancell2, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity-greeter/986967/+merge/104622
[21:13] <seb128> robert_ancell2, the "alpha never reachs 1 and so the greeter doesn't transition"
[21:13] <mterry> robert_ancell2, and your idea to move to Year.Month versioning seems good
[21:15] <robert_ancell2> Sarvatt: You sent me the link for 1.4.5-1 instead of 1.4.4-1
[21:15] <Sarvatt> robert_ancell2: shoot, sorry!
[21:15] <robert_ancell2> mterry: cool
[21:15] <robert_ancell2> mterry: we just need to convince the unity team to do the same
[21:15] <Sarvatt> robert_ancell2: http://goo.gl/PYdyf
[21:16] <Sarvatt> thats libxfont1_1.4.4-1_amd64.deb
[21:17] <robert_ancell2> yay, back to graphics!
[21:17] <seb128> Sarvatt, what happened to "if you break Ubuntu you fix or revert it"? ;-)
[21:17] <Sarvatt> seb128: who broke ubuntu? (i cant upload anything either) :P
[21:17] <Sarvatt> libxfont (1:1.4.5-2) unstable; urgency=low
[21:17] <Sarvatt>  .
[21:17] <Sarvatt>  * Ease sync for Ubuntu: strip -Bsymbolic-functions from LDFLAGS
[21:17] <Sarvatt>    (LP: #992745).
[21:18] <Sarvatt> some toolchain change and an auto sync broke it
[21:18] <seb128> toolchain didn't change recently I think
[21:18] <seb128> oh, a robert_ancell
[21:19] <robert_ancell> seb128, I think the assumption that we can just autolayer Ubuntu on top of Debian and everything will magically work broke it
[21:19] <Sarvatt> seb128: is there some way a core-dev can trigger a sync without filling a bug? it was uploaded to debian about an hour ago and might be able to be synced now
[21:20] <Sarvatt> still too new to requestsync it, been trying
[21:20] <seb128> robert_ancell, yeah, that's because we have an incompatible toolchain with them, which is a bit of an issue
[21:20] <stgraber> Sarvatt: syncpackage -d sid -r quantal <package>
[21:20] <seb128> Sarvatt, it can't be officially synced if not published I think
[21:20] <stgraber> Sarvatt: though LP usually needs much more than an hour to notice the new package in Debian
[21:20] <seb128> i.e the tools don't look to incoming
[21:21] <seb128> debian publisher doesn't run as often that the Debian one, like twice a day
[21:22] <seb128> robert_ancell, so yeah, my lightdm issue was the "logging in..." greeter stuff
[21:23] <seb128> robert_ancell, should we wait for other fixes to SRU or just get one for that one?
[21:23] <robert_ancell> seb128, is it very widespread?  I'm surprised it's only shown post release
[21:23] <robert_ancell> I'd say release immediately
[21:23] <seb128> robert_ancell, mterry: the bug is annoying enough that I would prefer to not wait post UDS to SRU it
[21:23] <seb128> robert_ancell, dunno, we got a few duplicates and a few people mentioning it on IRC, and I and pitti did hit it
[21:23] <mterry> agreed
[21:24] <seb128> robert_ancell, i.e that's enough people around that I guess that lot of users will hit it, though for some reason it doesn't happen on first login and not everybody user multiple users or log out and in again
[21:24] <seb128> well anyway
[21:25] <seb128> mterry, please SRU it, thanks ;-)
[21:25] <seb128> I can verify the SRU once it's in
[21:25] <mterry> robert_ancell, did you have anything else you wanted to squeeze into this SRU?
[21:25] <robert_ancell> mterry, no
[21:25] <mterry> robert_ancell, OK, will package it up
[21:26] <seb128> robert_ancell, btw you don't have any idea about the multimonitor greeter handling not working until you connect,disconnect a monitor?
[21:26] <dobey> robert_ancell: squeeze some love into it.
[21:26] <robert_ancell> dobey, creepy
[21:26] <seb128> robert_ancell, i.e it goes on mirror mode on boot
[21:26] <dobey> heh
[21:26] <seb128> robert_ancell, if that's an easy fix it would be nice to sneak that in as well, multimonitor is cool when it works ;-)
[21:27] <robert_ancell> seb128, no, it probably needs an Xpert to look at that one.  I know mirror mode is the default, though I don't know why g-s-d doesn't override that when it starts
[21:27] <robert_ancell> perhaps we have to kick g-s-d?
[21:27] <seb128> robert_ancell, I though we didn't enable xrandr in unity-greeter?
[21:28] <seb128> oh, no, it's in the enabled list
[21:28] <robert_ancell> seb128, yeah
[21:28] <seb128> so yeah, maybe that's the issue
[22:06] <mterry> jasoncwarner_, ping, you around?
[22:06] <mterry> jasoncwarner_, want you to try a fix for the log in issue
[22:06] <mterry> jasoncwarner_, enable http://launchpad.net/~mterry/+archive/ppa2 and let me know
[22:32] <mterry> seb128, fyi, I'm waiting on user responses before uploading the SRU
[22:32] <seb128> mterry, screw users!
[22:32] <seb128> ;-)
[22:32] <seb128> mterry, what you mean there is that you don't trust me right?
[22:32] <kenvandine> mterry, don't answer that... it's a trap :)
[22:33] <mterry> I suspect they are just amd64 users (forgot that hadn't built yet when I sent them there)
[22:35] <seb128> mterry, I did comment pointing that a bit earlier
[22:36] <mterry> yup, want to see what they say
[22:55] <RAOF> robert_ancell: I was wondering why you were up so early.  But you're now all the way over *there*, aren't you!
[22:55] <robert_ancell> RAOF, yep
[22:57] <TheMuso> lol