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| dholbach | good morning | 06:45 |
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| geser | good morning | 06:46 |
| dholbach | hi geser | 06:47 |
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| Rhonda | cjwatson_, is https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=19679 proper? I seem to recall that last time it was put into some "internal" canonical RT I don't have access to? | 08:56 |
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| cjwatson_ | Laney: local modification - just to point to the local mirror | 09:13 |
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| Laney | ah | 09:13 |
| cjwatson | Rhonda: not a sysadmin, I don't know how their priorities work :) | 09:16 |
| cjwatson | Rhonda: prod on #canonical-sysadmin? should be easy | 09:16 |
| cjwatson | we reclaimed sulfur since it's a fast powerpc box and we needed another buildd | 09:16 |
| cjwatson | well, fast-ish | 09:16 |
| Rhonda | cjwatson: Alright, will try there. I just seem to remember that last time you forwarded it to some internal RT. :) | 09:23 |
| Rhonda | Hmm, would mails to rt@ubuntu.com go to rt.ubuntu.com or to the internal RT? | 09:25 |
| cjwatson | Rhonda: rt.ubuntu.com | 09:28 |
| vibhav | what does rt stand for? | 09:45 |
| vibhav | can anybodt have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/+bug/873784 | 09:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 873784 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "reload_passwd uses fgetpwent rather than getpwent, ignoring /etc/nsswitch.conf" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:54 |
| geser | vibhav: RT = request tracker | 09:59 |
| Rhonda | vibhav: Request Tracker | 10:02 |
| Rhonda | duh, late :) | 10:02 |
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| dholbach | Ubuntu Development session (at Ubuntu Open Week) starting in 2 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom | 13:58 |
| * dupondje is teaching xaralx a lesson :) | 14:29 | |
| tumbleweed | :P | 14:30 |
| dupondje | only sad a test build take +15mins :ยง( | 14:31 |
| dupondje | is there a way to make pbuilder-dist use multiple cores ? :) | 14:32 |
| tumbleweed | export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=8 in .pbuilderrc | 14:34 |
| tumbleweed | or whatever value is appropriate | 14:34 |
| dupondje | sweet :) | 14:34 |
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| tumbleweed | of course, the package needs to use dh --parallel or equivalent | 14:35 |
| dupondje | still using 1 core for xaralx | 14:45 |
| dupondje | thats sad on a quad core :) | 14:45 |
| gau1991 | Hello ......... | 14:53 |
| gau1991 | i am new to Ubuntu to development | 14:53 |
| gau1991 | is there any we to get inside development? | 14:54 |
| arand_ | !development | 14:56 |
| ubottu | Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | 14:56 |
| arand_ | Hmm, whatever happened to papercuts by the way, is that still going or not? | 14:58 |
| tumbleweed | I assume so | 14:58 |
| arand_ | I guess it isn't new and shiny anymore :) | 14:59 |
| dupondje | dpkg-deb: building package `xaralx' in `../xaralx_0.7r1785-5ubuntu1_amd64.deb'. | 15:02 |
| dupondje | oh oooh! | 15:02 |
| dupondje | +#define JPEG_LIB_VERSION 80 | 15:04 |
| dupondje | but thats quite dirty ofc | 15:04 |
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| dupondje | tumbleweed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xaralx/+bug/992941 | 16:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 992941 in wxwidgets2.6 (Ubuntu) "Remove wxwidgets2.6" [Undecided,Triaged] | 16:01 |
| dupondje | enjyo | 16:01 |
| eagles0513875 | hi guys :) | 16:03 |
| dholbach | hi eagles0513875, bobweaver, Resistance | 16:04 |
| bobweaver | Hello | 16:04 |
| Resistance | dholbach, i'm always here :P | 16:04 |
| dholbach | you had some more questions? please ask | 16:04 |
| Resistance | my questions are tucked away on some obscure logfile on another machine, hence my saying i'll poke you and the MOTUs later :p | 16:05 |
| bobweaver | I found error because I am on 12.10 | 16:05 |
| bobweaver | it would not build in pbuilder | 16:05 |
| Resistance | bobweaver, godforbid you said 12.10 | 16:05 |
| dholbach | Resistance, ok :) | 16:05 |
| dholbach | bobweaver, can you put up the build log snippet on paste.ubuntu.com maybe? | 16:05 |
| bobweaver | sure | 16:05 |
| eagles0513875 | dholbach: just to understand i need to be on 12.10 to do packaging correct? | 16:05 |
| Resistance | eagles0513875, nope | 16:06 |
| Resistance | eagles0513875, i could tell you that, i'm on Natty and I build things for Precise | 16:06 |
| * Resistance keeps tarballs and VMs for Oneiric and Precise around for that reason | 16:06 | |
| dholbach | it helps if you run the development release in "some way" | 16:06 |
| Resistance | no argument there :) | 16:06 |
| dholbach | be it a chroot, virtual machine, separate partition or some other way | 16:06 |
| eagles0513875 | Resistance: your a freak of nature to not run the dev release :P | 16:06 |
| dholbach | it's important you are able to test what you build | 16:07 |
| Resistance | also no argument there :) | 16:07 |
| Resistance | especially when you're a backporter, you need to be able to test the backports :) | 16:07 |
| Resistance | anyways, i'll be quiet | 16:07 |
| Resistance | :) | 16:07 |
| bobweaver | Ok there was two error which I will post on was that it could not find the source package because I had run the command to change the debian/control 3 times so it was name different and also because it I was using 12.10 and not 12.04 :) thanks so much http://paste.ubuntu.com/964956/ | 16:10 |
| bobweaver | s|on|one | 16:10 |
| bobweaver | dholbach, if you or others make video tutorial of how to package a updated one I will make video of me shaving my head | 16:11 |
| dholbach | bobweaver, it will take a few weeks until I get the time, but: challenge accepted :) | 16:12 |
| bobweaver | \o/ | 16:12 |
| bobweaver | I will get the buzz clippers ready (by the way I have hair ) | 16:13 |
| gau1991 | hello dholbach, after running pbuilder-dist precise build xicc_0.2-3ubuntu1.dsc, where i can find a updated package??? in my current directory there not a single deb of xicc... | 16:14 |
| dholbach | gau1991, ~/pbuilder/<release>_result/ | 16:14 |
| gau1991 | i got.... Thanks dholbach.... :) | 16:15 |
| bobweaver | I can not believe how much more simple that was then using dh_make and fakeroot and dpkg-buildpackage and all that jazz | 16:18 |
| eagles0513875 | dholbach: ping i have a question when you get a chance | 17:17 |
| dholbach | eagles0513875, you can just ask your question in here - I'm in a meeting right now | 17:17 |
| dholbach | just ask and either I or somebody else will find the time to reply :) | 17:17 |
| eagles0513875 | dholbach: what kind of hardware would one need to package and test on in regards to ubuntu phone? | 17:18 |
| dholbach | eagles0513875, I don't know of any Ubuntu phone | 17:19 |
| dholbach | if you mean Ubuntu on Android, then I don't know either I'm afraid - I still have a very old mobile phone | 17:20 |
| eagles0513875 | dholbach: there is a phone version that canonical is working on i read they are wanting to release with the 14.04 LTS | 17:20 |
| eagles0513875 | dholbach: this is what im talkin bout http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/242853/canonical_to_expand_ubuntu_for_smartphones_tablets.html | 17:20 |
| dholbach | sorry, I don't know | 17:20 |
| dholbach | don't they have any specifics in one of those articles? | 17:21 |
| eagles0513875 | sadly not | 17:21 |
| eagles0513875 | im thinking of getting an arm based developers board from linaro to help out with development in that arena | 17:21 |
| tumbleweed | dupondje: \o/ | 17:36 |
| eagles0513875 | hey tumbleweed :D | 17:46 |
| dupondje | can | 17:46 |
| eagles0513875 | hey dholbach question for you what happens if you have unpackaged source code how does one go about getting it packaged? | 17:52 |
| Resistance | you have to build the package around it or find someone to do that | 17:53 |
| Resistance | eagles0513875, you also need to make sure the licensing is compatible | 17:53 |
| eagles0513875 | Resistance: ok | 17:53 |
| Resistance | there are instances where a license on a product is incompatible with Debian licensing policies for packages | 17:53 |
| dholbach | eagles0513875, just ask here in the channel - no need to ping me - somebody else might pick up the question as well :) | 17:53 |
| Resistance | including non-MOTUs ;) | 17:53 |
| dholbach | http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ should have an article about it | 17:53 |
| eagles0513875 | ok :) | 17:53 |
| dholbach | I'm still in a meeting and need to run in a bit | 17:53 |
| eagles0513875 | ahh ok my bad :( | 17:54 |
| dholbach | no no worries | 17:54 |
| eagles0513875 | ill harass Resistance he enjoys that | 17:54 |
| Resistance | you better not | 17:54 |
| eagles0513875 | Resistance: dont i already do that in trekweb :p | 17:54 |
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| dupondje | tumbleweed: you upload ? | 18:07 |
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| bobweaver | If I run debconf in preinst to gather info can the info that is gathered also be using in postinst ? | 18:30 |
| bobweaver | like can I call in my postinst script | 18:31 |
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| tumbleweed | dupondje: I will later. Not at home rgiht now | 18:44 |
| jtaylor | what happened to validate-desktop-file? | 18:47 |
| jtaylor | ah it was desktop-file-validate | 18:49 |
| soaringsky | does the myapp.developer.ubuntu.com process get a package into universe or extras? | 19:05 |
| tumbleweed | dupondje: as it's effectively a sync + patch, I'd drop all the old ubuntu-specific changelog bits | 19:21 |
| tumbleweed | dupondje: do we know why we are having to define JPEG_LIB_VERSION? | 19:21 |
| eagles0513875 | hey guys i was just thinking is it possible to do nightly builds for libreoffice that can be put in a ppa for those that want the latest and greatest versions of Libreoffice from the master branch or something of that sort to help with testing? | 19:22 |
| tumbleweed | eagles0513875: talk to sweetshark | 19:22 |
| eagles0513875 | tumbleweed: hehe ya i know him well so to speak but what would i need to do to get something like that going for 12.04 users as well as next release developers etc that way we can offer the latest version for 12.10 | 19:23 |
| eagles0513875 | would he be the ideal person to speak too? | 19:25 |
| tumbleweed | well, he maintains the package | 19:25 |
| tumbleweed | backporting it isn't going to be particularly fun, but he should be able to help you | 19:25 |
| eagles0513875 | tumbleweed: maybe not so much backporting except building and putting in a ppa for users to use | 19:26 |
| tumbleweed | it's the same thnig | 19:26 |
| eagles0513875 | tumbleweed: who would i need to talk to in regards to the ubuntu smartphone version as I am interested in helping with that but i probably dont have the right hardware for it though | 19:28 |
| eagles0513875 | to test and develop that is | 19:29 |
| tumbleweed | eagles0513875: I have no idea what hardware people are using for it | 19:29 |
| ScottK | Is there an #ubuntu-phone channel? | 19:29 |
| tumbleweed | one assumes so | 19:29 |
| * ScottK has a vague recollection of one being mentioned. | 19:29 | |
| eagles0513875 | thanks ScottK :) | 19:30 |
| bobweaver | hello there I am running into the error that I do not have permission to write to etc in my make file. which is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/965352/ the command that I am running to build package is fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -F maybe the Makefile is under the wrong Dir right now it is under /debian | 19:33 |
| ScottK | Or mayber you're writing to an absolute path and not a relative one. | 19:34 |
| bobweaver | I am not sure I understand what you mean by "absolute" & "relative" could you explain a little more thanks for helping :) | 19:36 |
| bobweaver | are you saying that I need to modify the Makefile ? or are you talking about the dir that the Makefile is under ? | 19:38 |
| ScottK | It's the difference between /etc and etc. | 19:40 |
| ScottK | You may need to modify the Makefile, I didn't look. | 19:40 |
| ScottK | The symptom you are describing is often associated with using absolute paths in the build when you want relative paths. | 19:40 |
| bobweaver | Where should Makefile be placed ? or best place to place it after running dh_make -e <email> -c <copyleft> -f foo.tar.gz ? should it stay under the upsource dir or go under /foo-10-foo/debian/ the reason I ask is after I run dh_make It says something about that But I do not understand what it is | 19:44 |
| bobweaver | this is what I am talking about |:| Please edit the files in the debian/ subdirectory now. You should also check that the foo Makefiles install into $DESTDIR and not in / . | 19:48 |
| bobweaver | what does that mean ? | 19:48 |
| bobweaver | the Makefile part ^^ I know why it wants me too edit the /debian but I have no clue what it is talking about with the Makefile | 19:51 |
| dupondje | tumbleweed: we should include the libjpeg headers, but those have conflicting types with the xaralx code ... | 19:59 |
| dupondje | really? xaralx is crappy old | 19:59 |
| dupondje | anyway, the JPEG_LIB_VERSION is a 'workaround' :) | 19:59 |
| tumbleweed | dupondje: I can live with that, but I prefer a changelog entry that makes that clearer :) | 20:23 |
| dupondje | hmz :) tumbleweed you fix the changelog, or I upload new debdiff ? | 21:03 |
| * tumbleweed doesn't mind too much | 21:03 | |
| tumbleweed | just sitting down to do it now | 21:03 |
| dupondje | I cant upload anyway *sadface* :) | 21:04 |
| micahg | dupondje: I'm sure you'll get there eventually | 21:05 |
| tumbleweed | yikes 143 uploads https://launchpad.net/~dupondje/+related-software | 21:06 |
| tumbleweed | dupondje: when are you applying for MOTU? | 21:06 |
| * dupondje hates writing texts :P | 21:07 | |
| jtaylor | hehe that stopped me from applying for a quite a while :) | 21:09 |
| * jtaylor dreads doing it again for DD :/ | 21:09 | |
| * ajmitch applied when it was much less formal :) | 21:10 | |
| dupondje | jtaylor: they should have templates ^^ | 21:10 |
| dupondje | <insert name here> | 21:10 |
| dupondje | :) | 21:10 |
| jtaylor | I liked the DM application, just copy paste a small line of text and insert maintained pacakges :) | 21:10 |
| tumbleweed | jtaylor: DD doesn't require a public grilling on IRC :) | 21:10 |
| tumbleweed | and you only need to persuade one person to advocate you | 21:11 |
| tumbleweed | (did I just advertise Debian as being easier to get upload rights for than MOTU?) | 21:11 |
| micahg | yes :) | 21:12 |
| * micahg really should go for DD at some point | 21:12 | |
| tumbleweed | jtaylor: (and you know you have a standing offer for advocation from me) | 21:12 |
| ajmitch | micahg: you should | 21:13 |
| jtaylor | I know thanks, my biggest obstacle is more my lazyness | 21:13 |
| Laney | you get to read licenses | 21:14 |
| Laney | and fix bugs | 21:14 |
| Laney | and write shell scripts! | 21:14 |
| tumbleweed | and recite policy | 21:14 |
| broder | "Debian as being easier to get upload rights for than MOTU"> I am so skeptical | 21:15 |
| Laney | nah, but DM is easier than PPU | 21:15 |
| Laney | and then much easier to extend | 21:15 |
| tumbleweed | broder: the advocation bar is quite high | 21:15 |
| tumbleweed | but once you're in the system, you won't be rejected | 21:16 |
| tumbleweed | (well, unlikely) | 21:16 |
| Laney | your progress might be somewhat slow | 21:16 |
| Laney | :P | 21:16 |
| * tumbleweed stalled an applicant I was AMing until he sorted his RC bugs out | 21:16 | |
| * dupondje wanted to upload a new package to his ppa, but doesn't like the 18h delay on the builders :'( | 21:19 | |
| jtaylor | mine build in one hour | 21:20 |
| tumbleweed | https://launchpad.net/builders <- 12hrs for amd64 | 21:20 |
| jtaylor | though I was bad, uploaded a rebuild where a copy would have sufficed because I want to track how many oneiric user sI have :/ | 21:20 |
| * tumbleweed has never played with PPA usage stats. Have you written a nice script to produce pretty graphs yet? | 21:21 | |
| dupondje | was bit more some minutes ago | 21:21 |
| EvilResistance | can anyone help me debug this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/965593/ Been at this for about two weeks and still cant figure out the cause of the break | 21:21 |
| EvilResistance | (might be so obvious i'm missing it) | 21:21 |
| jtaylor | tumbleweed: slow but works ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/965601/ | 21:22 |
| tumbleweed | eagles0513875: do you have universe enabled? | 21:23 |
| tumbleweed | err EvilResistance | 21:23 |
| EvilResistance | tumbleweed: might not in that chroot | 21:23 |
| EvilResistance | should i go an enable it within the chroot? | 21:23 |
| tumbleweed | yes | 21:23 |
| * EvilResistance knew it was something obvious | 21:28 | |
| tumbleweed | yikes, my netatalk package has had 1698 downloads. No wonder people e-mail be about it | 21:30 |
| tumbleweed | I think I just uploaded it for someone to test, when picking at a lp bug | 21:30 |
| dupondje | heh :) | 21:30 |
| jtaylor | ^^ | 21:30 |
| EvilResistance | do backports (when uploaded to [release]-backports) build with universe enabled? | 21:30 |
| tumbleweed | EvilResistance: same as non-backports | 21:31 |
| tumbleweed | universe packages build with univers, main packages build without it | 21:31 |
| Laney | tumbleweed: EvilResistance: Nope, backports has all components | 21:32 |
| Laney | primarily to cope with packages changing component across releases | 21:33 |
| EvilResistance | Laney: is that bug that prevents backports from build-depending on other backports fixed yet? | 21:33 |
| Laney | no | 21:33 |
| EvilResistance | thought not, since i havent seen any updates on it (and I'm subscribed to it) | 21:34 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: oh | 21:34 |
| Laney | I did double check the code to be sure :P | 21:34 |
| Laney | if pocket == PackagePublishingPocket.BACKPORTS: | 21:34 |
| Laney | return component_dependencies['multiverse'] | 21:34 |
| broder | tumbleweed: has there been any organization done for a keysigning party? | 23:21 |
| broder | (or Laney? i forget who claimed responsibility for this last fall) | 23:21 |
| tumbleweed | broder: I was actually thinking about that last night, but it's probably already too late | 23:21 |
| tumbleweed | (too late to do organisation-before-we-leave-ohme | 23:21 |
| broder | hmm...how much would you really need to do in advance? | 23:22 |
| SpamapS | time and a place is all you really need | 23:22 |
| ajmitch | depends on how formal you want to be | 23:22 |
| tumbleweed | SpamapS: they tend to be crazily disorganised, though | 23:23 |
| SpamapS | though the longer you have a single organizer who can print out the sheets .. the more keys will be sent. | 23:23 |
| ajmitch | it can be easier if everyone sends in their keys beforehand | 23:23 |
| tumbleweed | two UDSs ago, there were two versions of the sheets | 23:23 |
| tumbleweed | oh, and last UDS too | 23:23 |
| * ajmitch should probably replace his key soon | 23:23 | |
| SpamapS | The one at UDS-P went well, once the initial "oops!" of printing the wrong things on the page was fixed. | 23:23 |
| ajmitch | UDS might be a good chance to do it | 23:23 |
| SpamapS | I need to get a 4K key setup | 23:23 |
| SpamapS | though IMO if I sign the new key with the old key, it should be enough for people to sign my new one. :-P | 23:24 |
| stgraber | ajmitch: yeah, I moved to a 4K key 3 UDSes ago, a day before the key signing :) | 23:24 |
| stgraber | SpamapS: some people do, but I had almost half of the people who signed my old key refuse to sign the new one until I see them in person again :) | 23:25 |
| broder | i've never been able to decide how i feel about that | 23:25 |
| SpamapS | stgraber: thats just because you're so much fun to hang out with | 23:25 |
| SpamapS | IMO it should be sufficient to have a signed message from the person whose key you signed, and the signature on the acutal key. It should also be time-sensitive. I'm not going to sign it 2 years after the message was signed and sent. | 23:26 |
| tumbleweed | going from http://bad.debian.net/list/2012-April/003491.html someone thinks our keysigning is already scheduled | 23:26 |
| SpamapS | But if I verified their identity once, whats the point of doing the verification again? :-P | 23:26 |
| broder | SpamapS: i'm not interested in verifying your identity. i'm interested in verifying in a cryptographically trustworthy way that you actually sent the message | 23:27 |
| broder | (and that your key wasn't compromised by someone who then signed the message) | 23:27 |
| tumbleweed | also, everyone has their own keysigning policies | 23:27 |
| SpamapS | broder: which you'd do..since I sent it w/ the key you signed. :) | 23:27 |
| SpamapS | well if you don't trust my key anymore.. why did you sign it!? ;) | 23:28 |
| SpamapS | tumbleweed: true enough. I'm not sure that actually helps the web of trust though. | 23:28 |
| broder | tumbleweed: anyway, based on past experience, there will be a keysigning party. i think it would be awesome if one of us could claim responsibility for it so we can be sure it will be run cluefully and in a way that lets everyone make their respective team dinners afterwards in a timely manner | 23:28 |
| broder | since that's been a traditional failure of the uds keysigning party | 23:29 |
| tumbleweed | broder: :) | 23:29 |
| sbeattie | SpamapS: FYI, if you convert to a 4k key, here's the notes the security team took while doing it for our own keys: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GPGMigration | 23:29 |
| SpamapS | sbeattie: thank you! | 23:29 |
| SpamapS | As part of getting my DD status they asked me to promise to move to a 4K key | 23:30 |
| * ajmitch needs to get a transnational republic ID for a keysigning :) | 23:30 | |
| tumbleweed | I seem to recall there once being a big stink because someone took a fake ID to a debian keysigning | 23:30 |
| ajmitch | tumbleweed: yep, it was that one | 23:30 |
| ajmitch | http://madduck.net/blog/2006.05.24:tr-id-at-keysigning/ | 23:31 |
| SpamapS | tumbleweed: just to test people? | 23:31 |
| ajmitch | pretty much | 23:31 |
| ajmitch | hopefully my NZ passport looks official enough | 23:31 |
| broder | SpamapS: I'd also want to verify the new key in person because I basically don't use the web of trust - I have a one-hop path to everybody I want a cryptographically trustworthy path to | 23:33 |
| broder | And trusting your old key to verify the new key breaks that assumption for me | 23:33 |
| tumbleweed | well, should we go for 6 PM on wednesday as the locals are expecting? | 23:33 |
| broder | isn't it traditionally on thursday? | 23:34 |
| * broder is a local not expecting anything | 23:34 | |
| tumbleweed | I was pointing at http://bad.debian.net/list/2012-April/003491.html (which turned up on a secret list far away) | 23:34 |
| broder | i'm not opposed. might be less hectic if there's less stuff happening in the evening currently | 23:35 |
| tumbleweed | going from the coordination around release-team dinner, dinners are all over the place | 23:35 |
| broder | uds is short. there's probably no way to win here | 23:36 |
| ajmitch | trying to schedule anything that doesnt' conflict is a bit of a hassle with this many people | 23:36 |
| tumbleweed | http://uds.ubuntu.com/event/ looks liek every evening has events | 23:37 |
| broder | if all the events are at 7, we can just have the keysigning party at 6! we'll *totally* all be done in time | 23:38 |
| broder | :) | 23:38 |
| ajmitch | of course you will | 23:38 |
| tumbleweed | we don't all have to sign everyone's key | 23:40 |
| stgraber | broder: considering 80% of the attendees are the "usual" ones, I'm starting to wonder if it wouldn't be faster to just do it the old way (everyone distributing pieces of paper) at the meet&greet | 23:55 |
| broder | stgraber: interesting. although i feel like i always find that one of the "usual suspects" is someone i haven't actually exchanged signatures with | 23:55 |
| ajmitch | I'll have to generate a new key & print out fingerprints before I go then | 23:56 |
| broder | basically because i don't actually know who has signed my key :) | 23:56 |
| tumbleweed | I cross people off the list before the signing if we've cross-signed | 23:56 |
| tumbleweed | but I usually miss a few | 23:56 |
| stgraber | broder: I usually look at <current version>-changes for anyone who uploaded quite a lot of packages without enigmail showing me that I have signed their key already | 23:56 |
| tumbleweed | (and don't necessarily remember | 23:56 |
| broder | heh | 23:57 |
| ajmitch | my key probably won't be signed by most of you | 23:57 |
| ajmitch | you'll trust that I am who I say I am, right? :) | 23:57 |
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