| canthus13 | thafreak: Haven't been using freenx in a while. it was banned at work. :/ | 01:00 |
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| andygraybeal_ | morning | 13:25 |
| paultag | howdy | 13:33 |
| andygraybeal_ | :) | 13:44 |
| andygraybeal_ | heya paul | 13:44 |
| paultag | what's going on andygraybeal_ | 13:54 |
| andygraybeal_ | eh.. i'm going through and erasing all my tapes. | 13:55 |
| andygraybeal_ | i need to redo my backup scenario | 13:55 |
| andygraybeal_ | i'm normally here at 6am.. but today 8.30am | 13:58 |
| andygraybeal_ | we got a rhubarb chipotle sauce at our restaurant, it's pretty tasty, sweet, tart and smoky... | 13:59 |
| paultag | mmm :) | 14:06 |
| andygraybeal_ | yea, i had some for breakfast and rice and beans | 14:12 |
| andygraybeal_ | everytime i talk about it, it seems that no one uses tapes anymore... i vow to never get rid of my tapes. | 14:15 |
| andygraybeal_ | it might be a little BOFHish.. but i don't care. | 14:16 |
| andygraybeal_ | i still rsync my shit offsite, and i move my tapes offsite once a month. | 14:16 |
| thafreak | canthus13: you console only now? | 14:24 |
| thafreak | from work at least | 14:24 |
| thafreak | p.s. Morning Ohio | 14:24 |
| thafreak | I have some tape drives at home...not very large, dds 4 I think, 20gb uncompressed | 14:25 |
| thafreak | course my dds4 drive is a single drive...so backing up everything would require quite a few tapes | 14:26 |
| thafreak | i haven't setup any software to use them yet though, was just using straight tar initially | 14:26 |
| thafreak | now my photo collection no longer fits on a single tape...(was the only thing I was really backing up) | 14:27 |
| thafreak | what backup software you using andygraybeal_ ? | 14:27 |
| andygraybeal_ | i use bacula, thafreak | 14:27 |
| thafreak | I keep meaning to work on setting up bacula | 14:27 |
| thafreak | nice | 14:27 |
| thafreak | maybe one day I'll get it setup... :) | 14:28 |
| andygraybeal_ | yea, when i started doing this.. i set my heart on learning AMANDA .. but omg.. that is reallyh complicated. | 14:28 |
| andygraybeal_ | so Bacula, after a while, i could wrap my head around it. | 14:28 |
| thafreak | yeah... | 14:28 |
| thafreak | is it still mostly config file driven? | 14:28 |
| andygraybeal_ | thafreak, i'm still running what came with 10.04 and yes, i do believe. | 14:28 |
| andygraybeal_ | its like 3 or 4 files.. but once they are set, it' spretty handsfree after the tape swaps | 14:29 |
| thafreak | cool | 14:29 |
| thafreak | I wanted to look at doing virtual tapes too | 14:29 |
| thafreak | back up to a "virtual tape changer" (i.e. a directory somewhere), then back that up to tape... | 14:30 |
| andygraybeal_ | get out of town, virtual tapes? | 14:30 |
| andygraybeal_ | ah backup to a directory | 14:30 |
| thafreak | yeah, bacula supports emulating a tape changer | 14:30 |
| andygraybeal_ | interesting | 14:30 |
| andygraybeal_ | this page is godsend: http://workaround.org/bacula-cheatsheet | 14:30 |
| thafreak | it either goes to a directory, or maybe a disk device...i forget | 14:31 |
| andygraybeal_ | i hang out in #bacula | 14:32 |
| andygraybeal_ | they are pretty awesome | 14:32 |
| thafreak | nice, thanks for the link...saved it to evernote :) | 14:33 |
| andygraybeal_ | yea for sure :) it's nice to talk to someone else about it. | 14:33 |
| thafreak | but yeah, at work, we have no tape drives, and i don't know if I want to have them buy one...decent ones are still pretty pricey, even older ones | 14:33 |
| andygraybeal_ | yea, it's very expensive, so is the media | 14:34 |
| thafreak | so i'm thinking i still want to use bacula, just with virtual tapes | 14:34 |
| andygraybeal_ | i don't know what my problem is though.. i still love tapes. | 14:34 |
| thafreak | dds4 are really cheap, used on ebay atleast | 14:34 |
| andygraybeal_ | i use dlt's | 14:34 |
| thafreak | tapes are cheapest really | 14:34 |
| thafreak | i think i have a dlt drive too... | 14:34 |
| andygraybeal_ | dds4 never held much and i guess the motor burns out easier on the bigger tapes cause t hey are so heavy.. but don't quote me on this.. i smoke crack. | 14:35 |
| thafreak | lol...i went on a used tape drive buying spree on ebay | 14:35 |
| thafreak | i have a dlt drive and a dds3 changer...but i don't think I have appropriate scsi cables/cards for them | 14:35 |
| thafreak | so I don't even know if they work honestly | 14:35 |
| thafreak | i waste so much money on ebay...i buy old crap, that i never get around to using...$20-$50 here and there adds up over time | 14:36 |
| andygraybeal_ | yea, i went for an SATA DLT drive from quantum | 14:36 |
| andygraybeal_ | it might have been a bad choice, but so far it has worked for about 5 yrs now. | 14:36 |
| thafreak | i have like 2 ancient mac g3's, and several tape drives... | 14:36 |
| thafreak | you get it new or used? | 14:37 |
| andygraybeal_ | i have voided the warranty if there was one on it to clean it... i don't know how the expect you to clean it without voiding the warranty | 14:37 |
| andygraybeal_ | it was brand new. | 14:37 |
| thafreak | what size of tape does yours take? | 14:37 |
| andygraybeal_ | i have one mac g3 | 14:37 |
| andygraybeal_ | mine takes the 160GB uncompress or 320 compressed | 14:38 |
| thafreak | I keep eyeballing older LTO-1 drives...hoping one day they'll be in my price range | 14:38 |
| thafreak | wow, that's bigger than the lto-1... | 14:38 |
| thafreak | i think I need to invest in a propper drive... | 14:38 |
| andygraybeal_ | yea, something about it, it's probably all in my head though. i prefer these tapes to rsync'd offsite transfers.. even though i do both. | 14:43 |
| andygraybeal_ | it's what i grew up with | 14:43 |
| andygraybeal_ | sometimes i wonder if i'm completely irrational, and at times.. i don't care if i am or not. | 14:43 |
| andygraybeal_ | ah.. tape drive failure.. | 14:45 |
| andygraybeal_ | andy@buddleia:/dev$ mt -f st0 rewind && mt -f st0 weof && mt -f st0 rewind | 14:45 |
| andygraybeal_ | mt: st0: rmtopen failed: Input/output error | 14:45 |
| andygraybeal_ | andy@buddleia:/dev$ mt -f st0 rewind && mt -f st0 weof && mt -f st0 rewind | 14:45 |
| andygraybeal_ | mt: st0: rmtopen failed: Read-only file system | 14:45 |
| andygraybeal_ | andy@buddleia:/dev$ | 14:45 |
| andygraybeal_ | grrrr | 14:45 |
| andygraybeal_ | says i need to shove a tape cleaner ni | 14:49 |
| thafreak | what were you saying about irrationality :) | 14:51 |
| andygraybeal_ | :) | 14:52 |
| andygraybeal_ | tape cleaner is in and cleaning. | 14:52 |
| andygraybeal_ | ..... last time this happened.. i just took the damn drive apart and cleaned it myself | 14:52 |
| andygraybeal_ | okay, retrying | 14:54 |
| andygraybeal_ | okay, i give up, i gotta take the effer apart | 17:01 |
| andygraybeal_ | but for this i have to wait till after hours. | 17:01 |
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