[00:00] <alkisg> Yes, ok
[00:00] <alkisg> Why a blank screen then?
[00:00] <alkisg> Gnome-screensaver doesn't have a lot of screensavers?
[00:01] <cog> I couldn't access a GUI interface to Gnome-screensaver outside of the system settings, and it had nothing available but a blank screen.
[00:06] <alkisg> Hehe I didn't know that, I was using 10.04 last time I checked gnome-screensaver...
[00:06] <alkisg> "Just like the previous Ubuntu release, the latest Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't  have a screensaver by default and it uses a blank screen instead (this  is actually an upstream GNOME decision)"!!!
[00:07] <stgraber> yeah, we've had a session at the past UDS about re-implementing the missing features of gnome-screensaver, maybe the desktop team will have the time for it this cycle
[00:07] <stgraber> that's one more case where Gnome decided something wasn't "useful" (even though people like it) and just dropped it from gnome3
[00:08] <cog> :/
[00:08]  * alkisg has really started wondering if the upstream gnome design team is actually using gnome daily in their pcs... :D
[00:09] <alkisg> E.g. default font has no greek glyphs... we had those for decades now!
[00:09] <alkisg> (in upstream gnome, not in ubuntu)
[00:09] <cog> I say we all go to v2os :|
[00:10] <alkisg> Does that work?
[00:11] <cog> They stopped supporting it ~10 years ago...
[00:11] <alkisg> Haha the v2_os.iso in sf is fun :)
[00:12] <alkisg> "v2_os hasn't crashed yet, press esc to fix that" :D
[00:14] <cog> Ha!
[00:14]  * alkisg also liked http://sealsystem.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php
[00:15] <alkisg> It supported a full gui with translucent menus etc with just 1 mb ram
[00:20] <eterminal> Hello Alkisg are you the guy that installed a lot of schools in Greece
[00:21] <alkisg> eterminal: yup
[00:21] <alkisg> Why?
[00:26] <eterminal> Because i want to install the LTSP and a server
[00:26] <alkisg> ...ok but why does it matter that I did a lot of installations? Why not ask your questions in the #ltsp irc channel to see who is available to help you?
[00:26] <eterminal> But i want to know of you think that a IBM or SUN server is better for a large scale development
[00:28] <alkisg> eterminal: we don't have large scale deployments here, only a lot of little ones
[00:28] <alkisg> Join #ltsp and ask there
[00:28]  * alkisg heads to bed, 'night all
[00:28] <eterminal> Talking about the support and the performance, cause we can assemble a new computer
[00:28] <eterminal> Or buy one for a company.
[00:29] <eterminal> I think that IBM offers a special server that supports ubuntu.
[02:23] <kleewyck> I just upgraded from 11.10 to edubuntu 12.04 lts and now my LTSP clients no longer have sound. Any ideas?
[19:31] <zamba> i love the way my desktop looks when launching edubuntu and the gnome classic profile.. i know this isn't really a edubuntu question, but how do i get the same desktop experience from vanilla ubuntu 12.04?
[19:31] <zamba> because that looks exactly like i remembered ubuntu pre all the stupidness with unity
[19:31] <zamba> stupidity, rather ;)
[19:37] <stgraber> apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[19:37] <stgraber> then select the gnome session in lightdm
[19:37] <zamba> that's all?
[19:38] <stgraber> yep
[19:38] <stgraber> that's the only extra package we install for the gnome classic profile in Edubuntu. Selecting the option in our installer only makes the default session be gnome-fallback instead of unity
[19:39] <zamba> oh yeah!
[19:39] <zamba> thanks a bunch
[19:39] <stgraber> np
[19:39] <zamba> i've waited months for this
[19:39] <zamba> i can finally be productive in ubuntu again :)
[19:39] <stgraber> it's been there since 11.10 at least ;)
[19:51] <jbicha> it wasn't as nice in 11.10 though :)
[19:51] <stgraber> true
[19:52] <stgraber> jbicha: speaking of it being nice, what's the status of the SRU?
[19:53] <jbicha> well Cimi merged the light-themes patches; I don't know when he'll do a release though
[19:53] <jbicha> I think I'll push the GTK change to quantal & precise-proposed this weekend
[19:54] <stgraber> cool, thanks
[19:54] <stgraber> coming at UDS?
[19:55] <jbicha> stgraber: yes but I won't arrive until Wednesday night
[19:55] <stgraber> ah, ok
[20:16] <zamba> no, it sucked in 11.10, that's why i abandoned it :)
[20:16] <zamba> now i feel at home in ubuntu again
[20:16] <zamba> finally
[20:16] <zamba> thanks a bunch, edubuntu! :)
[20:17] <stgraber> it's mostly jbicha you have to thank on that one, we just ship the package ;)
[20:20] <tbrown> I need some help on the education ubuntu is this going to be a good download for me to learn the main terminal