| fwereade_ | morning wrtp | 08:28 |
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| wrtp | fwereade_: hiya | 08:31 |
| * wrtp is somewhat grazed | 08:31 | |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, bike ride complications? | 08:34 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: yeah, coming down hill, did a spectacular slide on a bend. | 08:35 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, heh, at least it was spectacular, I suppose ;) | 08:40 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: yeah, as is the scrape on my hip! | 08:40 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, ouch :( | 08:41 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: at least the bike's ok too | 08:44 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, jolly good | 08:45 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, when I was commuting by bike it surprised me how much the various associated expenses added up | 08:45 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: yeah. i think i'm going to cheat and leave it at a shop to be serviced this week... | 08:46 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: when are you arriving at UDS BTW? | 08:46 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, er, lunchtime-ish on sunday | 08:46 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, and you? | 08:46 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: sat afternoon | 08:46 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, ah, nice | 08:47 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: got the new phone yesterday afternoon. it *is* shiny. | 08:50 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, cool | 08:50 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, I'm vaguely hoping to hold off on new phones until I can get one with ubuntu for android | 08:51 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, but, well, my current one is hanging by a thread | 08:51 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, we'll see how long it lasts :) | 08:52 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: that would be quite cool. | 08:53 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: you could probably do that on this one if you jailbroke it | 08:53 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, probably not on an iphone | 08:53 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, well, ok, probably it's *possible*, but it strikes me as hte sort of monstrous horror-project that is not worth the bragging rights ;) | 08:54 |
| fwereade_ | oo, breakfast :) | 09:00 |
| TheMue | morning | 09:02 |
| wrtp | TheMue: hi! | 09:17 |
| TheMue | wrtp: Hi | 09:18 |
| TheMue | Hmm, the San Francisco photo walk would be nice, but we have our team dinner on Wednesday. | 09:21 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, TheMue: I'm trying to figure out what the best thing to do next is | 09:48 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, TheMue: it seems to me that it might have to be constraints | 09:49 |
| TheMue | fwereade_: Wouldn't conflict with me. I'm currently doing relations in topology. | 09:50 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, TheMue: because that's needed for bootstrap/PA parity | 09:50 |
| fwereade_ | TheMue, ok, cool -- I guess we'll both be messing around in state for that at some stage but I can certainly start off without conflicts | 09:51 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, TheMue: *however* I suspect that conversations at UDS will affect precisely how we go ahead with it | 09:51 |
| TheMue | fwereade_: Yes, think so too. | 09:52 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, TheMue: so I'm open to, and sl. in favour of, other suggestions as well | 09:52 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: i wondering if constraints is quite close to what i'm on currently | 09:55 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: i'm thinking that agent stuff might be a better area | 09:56 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: because i'm soon to have go stuff running on the server side and we can't do anything without agents | 09:56 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: although i have to say i was probably going to move on to the provisioning agent next | 09:57 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, hmm, ok, the PA is definitely the first one we need | 09:57 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, do we have any upstart-conf-generating stuff yet? | 09:58 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: nope | 09:58 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, that should hopefully be quite self-contained then, I'll take a look at that | 09:58 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: is that done by the machine agent? | 09:58 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, it's done by and for several things -- MA will create them for UA, PA will I think create them for the MA and send them over in cloud-init | 09:59 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, bootstrap should do so for the PA (plus the MA) | 09:59 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, it's not strictly necessary in any of those cases, we did fine for a while just starting the processes | 10:00 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: interesting, i hadn't seen any of that (perhaps upstart stuff was added after i ported the basic provider cloudinit stuff?) | 10:00 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, but dropping them in shouldn't be too painful | 10:00 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, quite possible, it was "done" back in oct/nov but I'm not sure it actually went in until jan :/ | 10:00 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: so the purpose of using upstart is... to restart things when they fall over? | 10:01 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, yeah, and when the machine reboots, etc | 10:01 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: of course. do we reboot machines now? | 10:01 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, we should be able to, yeah, nobody's complained about it not working | 10:02 |
| mthaddon | hi there, I'm interesting in finding out where I would find the most up to date version of a particular charm - haproxy in this case - would that just be lp:~charmers/charms/precise/haproxy/trunk ? | 11:07 |
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| fwereade_ | haha, cute: "There are 16 methods of Regexp that match a regular expression and identify the matched text. Their names are matched by this regular expression: " | 11:22 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: :-) | 12:22 |
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| fwereade_ | wrtp, would you consider `func (s *Service) pid() int`, in which -1 signals an error, to be evil? (when none of the clients care what the error is, and (int, err) therefore ends up feeling somewhat redundant) | 12:36 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: i don't mind it, but it's possible gustavo might... | 12:37 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: i don't mind in-band errors when reasonable | 12:37 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: and that seems fine to me. | 12:38 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: strings.Index is another example | 12:38 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, cool, we'll see how it flies :) | 12:38 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, in-band is ok if it's out-of-domain, as it were | 12:39 |
| wrtp | not sure i get that... out-of-domain? | 12:39 |
| fwereade_ | wrtp, hm, I should probably have said "range", been a long time since I did maths ;) | 12:52 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: ah, yeah. | 12:53 |
| wrtp | fwereade_: out of range and no other information added | 12:53 |
| TheMue | Ha! state has now 100 tests. Yeah. | 15:18 |
| wrtp | i *thought* the time was earlier than i expected... then i looked at a phone and found out that the clock at the top of my desktop has been stopped for 4 hours! | 15:33 |
| * wrtp steels himself to factory-wipe his old phone | 15:34 | |
| TheMue | wrtp: Hehe. You've got to show me on Monday. | 15:36 |
| wrtp | TheMue: new one is really quite nice | 15:37 |
| wrtp | TheMue: only real downer is i can't plug in extra SD card memory | 15:37 |
| * TheMue waves, we'll see on Monday. Today Carmen and I have a dinner, tomorrow is our 23rd wedding day. | 15:37 | |
| wrtp | TheMue: when do you arrive in Oakland? | 15:38 |
| TheMue | wrtp: Sunday at about 12:20. | 15:38 |
| TheMue | wrtp: Eh, that's SFO. I think it will be about 14:00 at the hotel. | 15:38 |
| wrtp | i wonder where those "chunk mismatch" errors come from | 15:39 |
| TheMue | wrtp: We should talk about our workflow. Perhaps you have a different order or other steps that you do. | 15:40 |
| wrtp | TheMue: i haven't managed to work out any common factors | 15:40 |
| wrtp | TheMue: i only get that error very occasionally | 15:40 |
| TheMue | wrtp: Strange, indeed. | 15:41 |
| wrtp | TheMue: and the diffs have uploaded fine | 15:41 |
| TheMue | wrtp: When will you arrive? Early enough for Marks talk? | 15:42 |
| wrtp | TheMue: saturday afternoon. | 15:42 |
| wrtp | TheMue: early enough to go to Jono's heavy metal gig :-) | 15:42 |
| TheMue | wrtp: Ah, hehe, have fun. And we'll meet at the talk. | 15:43 |
| wrtp | TheMue: deffo | 15:44 |
| TheMue | wrtp: I'm off now for a fine Steak. Yeah. | 15:44 |
| fwereade | need to be off for now; see you all in oakland :) | 16:21 |
| wrtp | fwereade: see you soon! | 16:39 |
| wrtp | right, i'm off. next stop UDS! look forward to seeing everyone again. | 17:21 |
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