[00:01] <chorgox> cool is working now, my task bar is looking funny i wonder if the applets that installed for unity are messing
[02:09] <CTtechguy> has anyone been having an issue with  flash crashing?
[02:10] <stlsaint> CTtechguy: what release you on? (me no i have not)
[02:10] <CTtechguy> 12.04
[02:10] <CTtechguy> chrome and firefox
[02:11] <stlsaint> CTtechguy: can you pinpoint what is happening when flash crashes?
[02:11] <Unit193> What one do you have installed? dpkg -l |grep flash
[02:12] <CTtechguy> adobe-flash-properties-gtk                     11.2.202.233-0precise1                  GTK+ control panel for Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11
[02:12] <CTtechguy> ii  adobe-flashplugin                              11.2.202.233-0precise1                  Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11
[02:13] <CTtechguy> seems like every time I try to play embedded video
[02:15] <stlsaint> is that the latest flash release?
[02:16] <CTtechguy> I beleive so I installed it a day or 2 ago
[02:17] <Unit193> http://youtube.com/html5 for one thing
[02:18] <stlsaint> CTtechguy: the one in repos does not constitute a up to date package
[02:18] <CTtechguy> yep but hulu.com always crashes
[02:18] <CTtechguy> I installed tarball from adobe
[02:18] <Unit193> stlsaint: He's using the one in -partner, it's at least a little better. :/
[02:20] <stlsaint> aye
[02:21] <Unit193> You could always try "Pepper"flash. :/
[02:26] <CTtechguy> well if I cant resolve I'll for format and and install 12.04 fresh
[03:27] <rolandb> how do I add a desktop shortcut, or an app I downloaded (TOR) to a panel in LXDE?
[03:28] <Unit193> Both in here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides
[03:30] <pibarnas> rolandb: right click the panel and select add/remove item to a panel, select apps bar. I think it's a good way.
[03:30] <rolandb> no i have to put it in the applications menu first
[03:30] <pibarnas> rolandb: maybe the names are slightly different. my system isn't in english.
[03:31] <Unit193> There isn't a good menu editor for LXDE yet in the repo, but there is a good canidate last I knew, hope that'll get in sooner than later.
[03:32] <pibarnas> rolandb: well, I think it's not necessary. You *want* to put there, you mean?
[03:33] <rolandb> Unit193, do i have to logout or something for the .desktop file to show up in the start menu?
[03:34] <Unit193> I don't remember, but wouldn't hurt.
[03:34] <rolandb> pibarnas, apps bar only works for stuff that is also in /usr/share/applications...
[06:20] <exxtreme> Is Gimp Shop available in Lubuntu 12.04 ? (I'm not running Lubuntu right now).
[06:20] <exxtreme> or. is there another decent alternative to photoshop?
[06:22] <KM0201> exxtreme: well, there's obviously gimp
[06:22] <KM0201> but as for gimpshop....
[06:23] <KM0201> no, doesn't look like it
[06:23] <KM0201> however, i think its fairly easy to install
[06:24] <exxtreme> ok..I installed gimp.  Would you agree that Gimp is the best photoshop alternative for Linux?
[06:24] <KM0201> IMO, yes.
[06:24] <KM0201> but i don't mess w/ "gimpshop"..
[06:24] <KM0201> so i couldn't tell you how that works (yes i know its just window dressing)
[06:25] <KM0201> hmm, all the instructions i find for gimpshop are for 8.04.
[06:25] <Unit193> In the next release, there should be Gimp 2.8 which is windowed.
[06:26] <exxtreme> thanks...gimp will do for now.
[06:26] <KM0201> Unit193: yeah, i've heard that, but there's a repository for gimp 2.8 now
[06:26] <KM0201> it's a PPA
[06:26] <KM0201> cuz 2.8 just went final.
[06:27] <Unit193> Not official, supported or that jazz.
[06:27] <KM0201> i know, just saying, its available
[06:28] <exxtreme> anyone used photoshop in wine/Lubuntu ?
[06:29] <KM0201> exxtreme: why on earth would you do that? (my understanding, it gives mixed results)
[06:29] <exxtreme> someone asked me if they can run photoshop..i need to let them know
[06:29] <exxtreme> the wine wiki says it's possible, but i'd like to hear 'first hand' reports
[06:30] <KM0201> you can *try*.. but my experience with photoshop and wine, is it's very mixed.
[06:30] <KM0201> it's easier to just learn gimp... no point having a $400 program inside wine, and some of the features not working or getting frequent errors
[06:30] <Unit193> !appdb
[06:31] <Unit193> That'll have the best info o it.
[06:40] <exxtreme> is cinepaint in the lubuntu repos?
[06:40] <Unit193> !info cinepaint
[06:45] <kanliot> !info of manure
[11:18] <Silverlion> any supporter here for helping me to file a possible bug?
[11:21] <iceroot> Silverlion: sure, have a look first here
[11:21] <iceroot> !bug | Silverlion
[11:21] <iceroot> Silverlion: any open questions are very welcome here
[11:22] <Silverlion> iceroot i am not sure if it is a bug
[11:22] <Silverlion> i am sitting at an installation routine since yesterday night
[11:23] <iceroot> Silverlion: give us some input about the issue please
[11:23] <Silverlion> iceroot: sure but not sure about what input you need
[11:24] <Silverlion> hardware from 2003 x86 installing a lubuntu live installation cd burned from lubuntu.ned
[11:24] <Silverlion> net
[11:24] <iceroot> Silverlion: what are you trying to do, what is not working, which version
[11:26] <Silverlion> trying to install, after entering the necessary information about TimeZone, Keyboard etc. the installation starts by saying "data is copied" but after several minutes the screen vanishes and leaves a desktop with a circle like the windows sand-clock (and this is lasting now for 3 1/2 hrs now) , version is lubuntu 12.04
[11:27] <kanliot> Silverlion, check your syslog, see where ubiquity crashed @
[11:28] <Silverlion> kanliot: no idea how
[11:29] <kanliot> you know console?
[11:31] <Silverlion> affirmative
[11:33] <Silverlion> kanliot: and now?
[11:33] <kanliot> k
[11:33] <Silverlion> sorry but i have now idea :D
[11:34] <kanliot> this command:
[11:34] <kanliot> less /var/logs/syslog
[11:34] <kanliot> if you hunt around, you will see a call stack when ubiquity crashed
[11:36] <kanliot> really you might as well just report the bug
[11:36] <kanliot> it will take a while
[11:36] <kanliot> but....
[11:40] <Silverlion> kanliot: "no such file or directory: /var/logs/syslog
[11:41] <kanliot> oops /var/log/syslog
[11:41] <kanliot> sorry
[11:45] <kanliot> i'm working from this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity
[11:45] <Silverlion> kanliot: pastebin.ubuntu.com/966737
[11:48] <kanliot> /var/log/partman
[11:48] <kanliot> /var/log/installer
[11:48] <kanliot> if you paste those you can file the bug easily
[11:48] <kanliot> Silverlion, and good job on the paste
[11:48] <kanliot> i'm actually curious how you did it from livecd
[11:48] <kanliot> and how much ram do you have?
[11:49] <Silverlion> a) via lx terminal, b) 1gb
[11:49] <kanliot> how do you pastebin from the terminaL?  select with mouse?
[11:56] <Silverlion> select with mouse, then edit copy and ctrl+v in chrominum
[12:15] <Silverlion> hoi MrChrisDruif
[12:16] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha
[12:18] <Silverlion> MrChrisDruif: struggeling again with install of lubuntu :(
[12:18] <MrChrisDruif> That's too bad
[12:20] <kanliot> chris i'm wondering what is coming this week regarding the wiki.  If you could give me a heads up what we can go ahead with
[12:26] <MrChrisDruif> I'm not too busy with wiki atm, I only update what is currently already on the pages to more holistic etc.
[12:28] <kanliot> MrChrisDruif, can you pm me
[13:07] <Elouin> Hi, I just installed lubuntu 12.04 on my netbook. When im trying to enter my wlan its always saying wrong password...
[13:11] <KM0201> Elouin: are you using wep, wpa, wpa2, etc?
[13:19] <MrChrisDruif> KM0201; isn't that the same issue as reported on the mailing-list? Asking for root password?
[13:29] <Elouin> Its when im entering the wpa2 pass its says that its wrong
[13:33] <Elouin> ok i got it.... thx
[13:48] <kanliot> sup mi3
[13:50] <mi3> yo
[15:05] <dove_g> anyone can try, pcmanfm crashin almost always when you drag and drop folder to bookmark on left side
[15:05] <dove_g> please try with folders with many folders/files
[15:19] <pmatulis_> does anyone know where pcmanfm stores its bookmarks?
[15:19] <pmatulis_> the man page says ~/.pcmanfm/bookmarks but that dot directory does not exist
[15:20] <pmatulis_> and any grepping i've done has proven fruitless
[17:51] <bodhi_zazen> amjjawad ping
[17:51] <bodhi_zazen> not sure if you use a different nick on IRC
[17:55] <Unit193> Isn't on IRC, except *maybe* for a meeting.
[17:55] <bioterror> bodhi_zazen, you will find him from the forums :D
[17:59] <bodhi_zazen> OK, well, then FYI ...
[18:00] <bodhi_zazen> amjjawad tried to start a lubuntu support mega-thread on the forums, I jailed it
[18:00] <bodhi_zazen> AFIK the forums are willing to support such a thread, but the lubuntu team needs to be willing to back it
[18:01] <bodhi_zazen> Without backing, these sorts of things are messy at best
[18:01] <bodhi_zazen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1229345
[18:01] <bodhi_zazen> That thread is over 5,000 strong
[18:02] <bodhi_zazen> FC has invited amjjawad, and the entire lubuntu team, to post to FC mailing list or come to FC meeting to discuss collaboration if you all are interested
[18:03] <bodhi_zazen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda
[18:03] <bodhi_zazen> ubuntu-forums-council@lists.ubuntu.com
[18:04] <bodhi_zazen> IMO, backing means willing to take tips from such a mega thread -> improve lubuntu wiki pages
[18:04] <bodhi_zazen> As well as moderate / promote such a discussion with ubuntu forums community
[18:04] <bodhi_zazen> Thank you ;)
[18:28] <smile> bye :)
[18:49] <Guest17383> I'm getting the 'missing plugin' message on youtube despite having install lubuntu-restricted-extras, ubuntu-restricted-extras, and ubuntu-restricted-addons.  I'm using 11.04 Lubuntu..
[18:56] <burrito_> sorry, I got cut off, I was the guest with the youtube plugins issue.  Guest17383
[18:57] <bioterror> enable partner repository if not enabled
[18:57] <bioterror> and install adobe-flashplugin
[18:57] <bioterror> remove flashplugin-installer before that
[19:05] <burrito_> bioterror should I reboot?  it stills shows as plugin missing?
[19:05] <bioterror> restart your browser
[19:05] <bioterror> no need for reboot
[19:05] <bioterror> only a kernel update requires reboot
[19:07] <burrito_> hmm.. still says 'missing plugin'.. I installed the one with the description "Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11"
[19:07] <bioterror> and you quit your chromium and started it again+
[19:07] <bioterror> ?
[19:08] <burrito_> yes.  I had actually done that immediately after the installation was complete.  And repeated a few times since.
[19:09] <burrito_> you wouldn't happen to know if there were any bugs associated with this in the initial release do you?  because I just installed this OS and have yet to update.
[19:09] <burrito_> well, I have yet to do a complete update that is.
[19:10] <bioterror> sure you should do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[19:11] <bioterror> but I really dont know why that plugin is missing
[19:11] <bioterror> can you use any other flash siten then?
[19:11] <bioterror> -n
[19:12] <Unit193> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ That doesn't work for you?
[19:13] <burrito_> nope, does the same thing..
[19:13] <burrito_> i was trying to avoid a distro upgrade but I think it would likely be inevitable.  I've got to have flash.
[19:14] <burrito_> okay, I'll just update and upgrade..  it's not a terribly big deal i guess.  I'm just scared of upgrades since I used to use Ubuntu
[19:14] <Unit193> I do distupgrade every day, it's just a normal upgrade, but permitted to install new packages.
[19:16] <burrito_> well, I've been getting the alert windows to upgrade the distro to 11.10 and I'm familiar with how much of a mess Ubuntu's 11.10 was..  I've been avoiding it since I installed this OS onto this machine..  Well, I'm off to update and upgrade my stuff..  Thanks bioterror and Unit193
[19:17] <Unit193> dist-upgrade != Upgrade to 11.10. :/
[20:00] <miro1> is there a way to switch the whole theme from the lates lubuntu back to a darker version?
[20:01] <bioterror> Mon10:36*<bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Oneiric/Ozone
[20:04] <bioterror> remember to change font color of the panel to white too
[20:04] <bioterror> and elementary theme to dark
[20:22] <miro1> so, I have to download this ozon2 package, right?
[20:23] <Unit193> Should already be on the system, but might not be so extract it into ~/.themes/
[20:23] <miro1> when I select the ozon2 theme everything is still very light represented
[20:23] <miro1> Unito193: yes, that's what I already did
[20:24] <miro1> hm
[20:24] <Unit193> Then do you have a "LubuntuDefault"?
[20:24] <miro1> yes, I have
[20:29] <laumonier> hi im wondering if the 12.4 lubuntu is more reliable than the 11.10 because it was crashing a lot (especialy pcmanfm)
[20:30] <holstein> laumonier: try it live.. try 12.04 live and see...
[20:31] <laumonier> holstein: what an answer....it helps me a lot.....
[20:31] <holstein> laumonier: maybe its hardware specific... 11.10 was not "crashy" for me
[20:32] <holstein> laumonier: i really cant say without more information.. but you can just load up the live CD and see for yourself :)
[20:32] <Unit193> You could check all the bugs on launchpad and sourceforge, see if whatever may be for you is closed.
[20:39] <dove_g> nice, if anyone wants ubuntu look on lubuntu 12.04 here is the fix of grey drop menus
[20:39] <dove_g> http://www.techytalk.info/ubuntu-ppas/light-themes/
[20:41] <miro1> can someone recommend an lightweight alternative to sylpheed?
[20:41] <miro1> or lets say a lubuntu compatible mail client
[20:42] <Unit193> alpine?
[20:43] <EvilResistance> that's CLI last i checked, Unit193
[20:43] <Unit193> EvilResistance: TUI, and it's an alternitive.
[20:43] <EvilResistance> indeed
[20:47] <miro1> but both do not support rich text which I would like to have, that's why I'm looking for alternitives
[20:48] <EvilResistance> well there's sylpheed which is included in lubuntu, there's evolution which usually comes with Ubuntu, but that's not light-weight, there's Thunderbird, also not very light weight...
[20:48] <EvilResistance> there's alpine, which is a TUI
[20:48] <bioterror> what's tui?
[20:48] <EvilResistance> textual user interface
[20:49] <bioterror> :D
[20:49] <Unit193> Another name for ncurses.
[20:49] <bioterror> how about mutt
[20:49] <bioterror> cone
[20:49] <dove_g> where are stored icons from Lxapperance under Icon Theme? (path)
[20:50] <bioterror> also re-alpine :D
[20:51] <Unit193> !info alpine
[20:51] <bioterror> !info cone
[20:51] <Unit193> Dowh, that's realpine, it just doesn't list it.
[20:52] <dove_g> found it, /usr/share/icons :)
[20:52] <Unit193> BestBot over in #ubuntu-bots could also tell you the best client.
[20:53] <ChaosColor> speaking of sylpheed, is there a better way to hide imap folders than removing them from the xml file?
[20:54] <ChaosColor> the imap server I connect to is retarded and lists all files in my account's home directory
[21:31] <JeGueeR94> Hello there!
[22:00] <CTtechguy> just as an update I installed the latest flash from the repo and it is working adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.235-0precise1_i386.deb
[22:01] <Unit193> Yeah, not much to say with flash, it works for some and works at time, but not at others. :P
[22:01] <CTtechguy> thanks for all suggestions
[22:01] <Unit193> Glad you have it though, now you can win all those ipads like me.
[22:01] <CTtechguy> and help
[22:11] <CTtechguy> Unit193: to go along with my iphone
[22:51] <vandiv> people of lubuntu community. I have two computers with lubuntu, copy & paste configuration (so, it is the same in both of them), both with 11.10, one popup to update to 12.04 and upgraded, the other never did it, even updating, trying to upgrade or do-release-upgrade -d. what could be the problem?
[23:10] <vandiv> I get it, thanks http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-1004-1010-1104-to-ubuntu-1110-oneiric-ocelot-desktop-a-server/
[23:52] <stlsaint> TheMaster: master?? really??
[23:53] <TheMaster> (This is offtopic, but...) Haven't you seen Doctor Who??
[23:59] <stlsaint> TheMaster: i dunno..cant remember