[00:15] <jcastro> bkerensa: is nathan williams one of yours?
[00:15] <jcastro> saw some incoming charms from him
[00:15] <jcastro> awesome.
[00:16] <bkerensa> jcastro: one of mine... yes he is
[00:16] <bkerensa> :P
[00:16] <bkerensa> He is a Oregonian
[00:16] <bkerensa> ;)
[00:16] <jcastro> \o/
[00:16] <bkerensa> jcastro: so we now have Me, Adam_G, Kees and nathwill
[00:17] <jcastro> <3
[00:19] <cjohnston> jcastro: if your with jono, could you ask him if we are going to do community round tables please
[00:19] <jcastro> ok
[00:20] <cjohnston> ty
[00:21] <cjohnston> jcastro: is http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20401/community-q-juju-training-events/ supposed to be scheduled twice?
[00:21] <jcastro> huh weird
[00:21] <jcastro> no
[00:21] <jcastro> just once
[00:21] <jcastro> pick one and delete pls
[00:21] <cjohnston> k
[03:32] <JoseeAntonioR> Hi, is jcastro around?
[03:35] <paultag> JoseeAntonioR: I doubt it, it's 23:35 in his timezone
[03:35] <paultag> if you stick around, he'll show up in a few hours
[03:36] <JoseeAntonioR> paultag: Hmm, well, thanks. I'll send him an email, then, it's also late over here.
[03:36] <paultag> gotcha
[05:05] <mhall119> paultag: it's not quite that late, but he's probably at the bar
[05:06] <mhall119> paultag: jcastro and I are in San Fran already, so we're PDT
[06:42] <dholbach> good morning
[06:44] <ejat> morning
[09:02] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:06] <nothingspecial> hello czajkowski
[09:15] <s-fox> Hello.
[10:39] <czajkowski> dholbach: you're amazing!!
[10:39] <czajkowski> thank you
[10:40] <dholbach> de nada
[12:21] <czajkowski> I seem to have landed myself into charing the womens flossie pannel, charing another discussion and giving a sepeate talk. at a confernece in May in London
[12:23] <MrChrisDruif> Props to you?
[12:24] <Tm_T> czajkowski: volunteered without realising to what you volunteered? (:
[12:24] <czajkowski> no I agreed to give a talk
[12:24] <czajkowski> now doing 3 sessions
[12:24] <Tm_T> (:
[12:24] <czajkowski> still it'll be fun 2 day event
[12:24] <czajkowski> and it's in London so no travelling
[12:25]  * Tm_T tends to volunteer himself too easily in time to time
[12:29] <cprofitt> congrats czajkowski
[12:59] <cjohnston> czajkowski: ping
[13:00] <czajkowski> ugh pong
[13:00] <czajkowski> sup
[13:01] <cjohnston> :-(
[13:01] <cjohnston> czajkowski: it looks like gmb made BPs for the clinic... and you made meetings.. is there a reason to have the BPs?
[13:01] <czajkowski> I don't know
[13:01] <czajkowski> I dont think so tbh
[13:02] <cjohnston> should it be verified prior to getting rid of them?
[13:03] <czajkowski> nah
[13:03] <czajkowski> we can create a bp if needed on the day
[13:03] <czajkowski> else stick with my ones as I've bloged and linked them internally
[13:04] <cjohnston> kk
[13:04] <czajkowski> cheers
[13:37] <czajkowski> cjohnston: I'm down as mandatry 2 things on at the same time
[13:37] <czajkowski> what happens
[13:38] <DJones> :)
[13:38] <DJones> Grr, wrong channel
[13:39] <cprofitt> DJones: We always welcome smiles :-)
[13:40] <DJones> Heh, trouble is, the smile was meant for a chat with my wife on pidgin, not irc with irssi
[13:40] <cprofitt> lol
[13:40] <DJones> So not just wrong window, wrong app
[13:40] <cprofitt> well... I hope she got her smile
[13:41] <DJones> Eventually, although the smile could be because she said she was going out for the night
[15:58] <s-fox> Goodbye.
[17:00] <dholbach> alright my friends
[17:00] <dholbach> see you sunday afternoon
[17:00] <dholbach> big hugs
[17:01] <popey> yay
[17:01] <dholbach> :)
[17:05] <jcastro> mhall119: ping
[17:05] <jcastro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/967332/
[17:05] <jcastro> IS would like to have a cool monitoring thing for the icecast streams
[17:05] <jcastro> but need help with it
[17:06] <jcastro> it's not like a formal request or anything important, they're just wondering if someone can look at it and make it work
[17:06] <mhall119> jcastro: make that code work?
[17:06] <jcastro> "once the IS folks have icecast running, you should find some kind of gtk/gstreamer ninja and persuade them to figure out why http://paste.ubuntu.com/967332/ doesn't work"
[17:10] <mhall119> so I'm happy to help, but I'm going to need more information that that to know what I can do
[17:11] <cjohnston> czajkowski: what two meetings
[17:19] <mhall119> jcastro: who's working on that app?
[17:27] <jcastro> mhall119: Chris Jones, Ng on irc
[17:27] <mhall119> ok
[17:33] <AlanBell> hi jcastro
[17:33] <jcastro> hi
[17:33] <jcastro> what's up
[17:34] <AlanBell> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20397/community-q-irc-workshops/ what is that?
[17:34] <jcastro> openweek, developerweek, etc.
[17:34] <AlanBell> ah right ok
[17:34] <AlanBell> I will propose a different one for the IRCC/IRC team plan for bots and stuff
[17:43] <AlanBell> so when proposing a meeting these days do I have to make the blueprint then propose it on summit, or just propose it on summit?
[17:45] <jcastro> BP please
[17:46] <jcastro> community-q-whatever
[17:46] <jcastro> then jono approves
[17:46] <jcastro> cjohnston: hey so IS is confused with the room names, different on summit vs. the IRC rooms, etc.
[17:46] <jcastro> so I told them to make a canonical list of the room names
[17:46] <jcastro> and we'll just go with that
[17:47] <AlanBell> they are not different!
[17:47] <AlanBell> they are the slug names from the rooms
[17:47] <jcastro> oh ok, well, whatever is user visible
[17:48] <jcastro> anyway, just a heads up
[17:48] <jcastro> if they publish the list and it's the same then woo
[17:48] <cjohnston> jcastro: its always been #ubuntu-uds-roomname
[17:48] <AlanBell> and the slugs are all lower case and - replaces space
[17:48]  * AlanBell was very careful
[17:48]  * jcastro nods
[17:49] <jcastro> cjohnston: their concern was the "roomname" part
[17:49] <AlanBell> for which room?
[17:49] <jcastro> he wasn't specific
[17:49] <jcastro> he's Sciri on IRC though if you wanna ping him
[17:49]  * jcastro is off to do cloud stuff now
[17:49] <cjohnston> no cloud for you
[17:50] <AlanBell> thanks jcastro
[17:50] <mhall119> AlanBell: FYI, marianna had to change the rooms some
[17:50] <mhall119> moved some public ones to private, and some private ones to public
[17:53] <AlanBell> ok, looks like junior ballroom 3 and room 212 have been removed
[17:57] <mhall119> AlanBell: yeah, those are both for private meetings only now
[17:59] <AlanBell> ok, well removing rooms isn't a problem really, I am mainly worried about people ending up in the wrong place, extra rooms with nothing visible scheduled in them are harmless
[18:03] <cjohnston> AlanBell: #canonical-sysadmin please
[18:15] <czajkowski> cjohnston: meant to be 2 one tuesda and one thursday
[18:15] <cjohnston> czajkowski: ?
[18:15] <cjohnston> i dont understand
[18:16] <czajkowski> cjohnston: going by your comment above
[18:17] <cjohnston> czajkowski: I think your talking about the clinics (sorry, im in 7 conversations right now).. I haven't had a change to fix the blueprint ones yet...
[18:17] <czajkowski> ok
[18:20] <bkerensa> AlanBell: Are you in UK still?
[18:22] <AlanBell> yes
[18:22] <AlanBell> leaving tomorrow
[19:17] <cjohnston> czajkowski: the two blueprint created meetings have been deleted
[19:21] <czajkowski> cjohnston: cheers
[19:31] <jcastro> hey I forgot, that qt session
[19:32] <jcastro> did we ever get it back?
[19:35] <cjohnston> you arent talking to me are you
[19:38] <mhall119> jcastro: the bof?
[19:38] <mhall119> doesn't look like it
[19:58] <bkerensa> yay Cloudfront
[20:10]  * AlanBell wonders if there is a theme for the UDS end party
[20:10] <pleia2> california dreamin'
[20:11] <pleia2> "UDS closing party -- California dreamin' beach party!"
[20:11] <greg-g> I dare anyone to go swiming in the ocean
[20:11] <czajkowski> ok me and my back are now offically not talking
[20:11] <AlanBell> hmm, so we have to dress like we are not expecting it to rain. Might be tricky for the brits.
[20:11] <czajkowski> I may crawl from sf airport to hotel and collapse tomorrow
[20:11] <pleia2> greg-g: I'd like to see them try from "West Hall" in a Marriot  in Oakland :)
[20:12] <pleia2> czajkowski: aww :(
[20:12] <greg-g> pleia2: oh right, well, go over to the Oakland Port
[20:12] <pleia2> eww
[20:12] <greg-g> pleia2: though, if the cops saw a big mass of people walking towards the Oakland Port again....
[20:12] <pleia2> bay party? :)
[20:12] <czajkowski> AlanBell: handkerchief  as a hat for starters in 4 corners. oh sandles and socks, and red face from being burnt
[20:12] <pleia2> hahaha
[20:12] <pleia2> no no, you don't wear the socks when you go to the beach
[20:13] <pleia2> you wear the socks everywhere else :)
[20:13] <czajkowski> no no ou do if you're british!
[20:13] <greg-g> "Ubuntu Developers Attempt to Disrupt International Commerce by Taking Over Oakland Port"
[20:13] <czajkowski> greg-g: there shall be no 'attempt' only full control
[20:13] <czajkowski> :)
[20:13] <pleia2> hehe
[20:13] <czajkowski> okease UDS folks always do things 100000%
[20:14] <czajkowski> non of this attempt lark
[20:14] <greg-g> :)
[20:14] <czajkowski> pizza or chinese for dinner
[20:14] <czajkowski> so not budging from the couch so anything that delivers really
[20:14] <pleia2> pizza
[20:14] <czajkowski> I'm thinking dominios
[20:14] <pleia2> we have chinese*1000 here
[20:14] <czajkowski> I need their garlic dip
[20:14] <greg-g> pizza always wins in my book
[20:15] <AlanBell> might have to go shopping in SF for some beach stuff :)
[21:30] <bkerensa> AlanBell: A beach ball at the very least
[21:30] <bkerensa> :D
[21:34] <bkerensa> mhall119: uds.ubuntu.com registration is "OpenID discovery error: Error fetching XRDS document: (60, 'server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt')"
[21:35] <bkerensa> apparently its being doing that for a day or two
[21:38] <mhall119> bkerensa: ugh, ping IS, I don't think that's us
[21:39] <bkerensa> mhall119: will do
[21:45] <jbicha> bummer, the UDS register link isn't working https://forms.canonical.com/udsreg/
[21:54] <mhall119> jbicha: looks like we're having some all-over SSO errors
[21:54] <mhall119> bkerensa: what did IS say?
[22:06] <bkerensa> mhall119: I just RT'ed
[22:06] <bkerensa> mhall119: should I ping directly?
[23:12] <jono> jcastro, I think there may be some issues with LP auto scheduling
[23:12] <jono> my accomplishments sessions have not appeared in summit
[23:12] <jono> mhall119, ^
[23:12] <jono> cjohnston, ^
[23:13] <cjohnston> jono: link?
[23:13] <jono> cjohnston, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-q-ubuntu-accomplishments-development-planning
[23:14] <jono> and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-q-growing-ubuntu-community-accomplishments
[23:15] <cjohnston> jono: your definitions are wrong
[23:15] <cjohnston> jono: new
[23:15] <cjohnston> jcastro: see.. you said that the track leads should fix stuff
[23:15] <jcastro> :)
[23:15] <jcastro> I'm still missing the qt-bof one too
[23:15] <cjohnston> jcastro: link
[23:16] <cjohnston> jcastro: I'm removing LP support for uds-r
[23:16] <jono> cjohnston, which definition?
[23:16] <jcastro> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-q-qt-bof
[23:16] <cjohnston> jono: on the BPs you have "Definition" approved
[23:16] <jcastro> ^^^ this one has to be on monday
[23:16] <jono> cjohnston, right, oh so it needs to be new?
[23:16] <cjohnston> jcastro: you don't know how to do them either
[23:16] <jcastro> oh, me too
[23:16] <jono> cjohnston, why does it not allow approved definitions to be accepted?
[23:16] <jcastro> I totally forgot about that
[23:16] <cjohnston> jono: new discussion or drafting
[23:17] <cjohnston> jcastro: ya.. totally removing LP support for next UDS
[23:17] <jcastro> heh
[23:17] <jono> thanks cjohnston
[23:17]  * jcastro fixes his
[23:17] <jcastro> how long is the import cron right now?
[23:17] <jono> removing LP support for what?
[23:17] <jcastro> cjohnston: ^
[23:17] <cjohnston> i think still 20
[23:17] <jcastro> k
[23:18] <jcastro> jono: ok so fix the definition, wait 20 minutes or so, and then check again
[23:18] <cjohnston> jono: creating meetings from blueprints.. its WAY too error prone
[23:18] <jono> thanks cjohnston
[23:18]  * jcastro does the same
[23:18] <jono> cjohnston, well it is how we do UDS
[23:18] <jono> so we need that functionality
[23:18] <jono> it might be error prone but it is efficient in the wider scope of Ubuntu
[23:18] <jono> we need that support in summit
[23:18] <cjohnston> i guess it depends on how much time is spent fixing errors
[23:19] <cjohnston> there are serious flaws that we need to fix.. and the fix is creating a meeting and linking a blueprint to it, not creating a blueprint and the meeting being made from it
[23:21] <cjohnston> blueprints are not designed for the functionality that they are being used for
[23:21] <jcastro> I know what you mean, I'll explain it to jono IRL
[23:21] <cjohnston> ty
[23:22] <jono> cjohnston, jcastro lets discuss this next week
[23:22] <jono> I personally think that the amount of errors we have with the current situation is so small as to justify moving to manually adding meetings and manually associating blueprints
[23:22] <jono> but I agree it is valuable for us to have a discussion
[23:25] <cjohnston> jono: to you, sure.. to me.. no.. jono in the first page of meetings in the summit admin, a total of 100.. 17 of them are named wrong.. you just gave me two with errors, jcastro one, thats 20.. skaet gave us about 6 earlier, and slangasek has had a handful of them too... thats 30 or so... that I have already been approached to fix..
[23:26] <jcastro> I can explain it!
[23:26] <cjohnston> i have no idea how many more exist, but I'm fairly certain there are more
[23:26] <jcastro> I know what you mean, once I explain it to jono he'll know what you mean
[23:26] <jono> cjohnston, right, so lets discuss this next week and evaluate how much of an issue this is
[23:26] <jcastro> since it's hard to explain on IRC
[23:27] <jono> I agree with jcastro, let's discuss it next week
[23:27] <jono> my primary responsibility is to ensure that summit meets the needs of UDS, and I think we should have a discussion to balance out these needs with the practicality of summit and how people use it
[23:29] <jcastro> jono: hey where you located right now?
[23:30] <cjohnston> jono: mark you both required for the summit session or do you want one specifically for this discussion?
[23:30] <jono> cjohnston, I think just a one on one meeting makes sense
[23:30] <jono> jcastro, I am in a plenary
[23:30] <jcastro> oh
[23:49] <bkerensa> jcastro: have you had any Cancun yet?