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bazhangmi3 seems to want apt-get to operate differently than it does13:26
bioterrorand now he joined #lubuntu again13:31
bioterrorlet's see how he acts this time :D13:31
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from WhereIsMySpoon)15:55
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ubottuIn ubottu, LinuxMonkey said: !admingroup is <reply> Up until Ubuntu 11.10, administrator access using the sudo tool was granted via the "admin" Unix group. In Ubuntu 12.04, administrator access will be granted via the "sudo" group. This makes Ubuntu more consistent with the upstream implementation and Debian. For compatibility purposes, the "admin" group will continue to provide sudo/administrator access in 12.04.19:51
tonyyarusso!admingroup20:49
tonyyarussoshut up you dumb bot20:49
tonyyarusso@login20:50
ubottuThe operation succeeded.20:50
tonyyarusso!admingroup is <reply> Up until Ubuntu 11.10, administrator access using the sudo tool was granted via the "admin" Unix group. In Ubuntu 12.04, administrator access will be granted via the "sudo" group. This makes Ubuntu more consistent with the upstream implementation and Debian. For compatibility purposes, the "admin" group will continue to provide sudo/administrator access in 12.04.20:50
ubottuI'll remember that, tonyyarusso20:50
tonyyarussoIt is a bit wordy though...20:51
tonyyarusso!admingroup is <reply> Up through Ubuntu 11.10, administrator privileges using sudo was granted to the "admin" Unix group.  In Ubuntu 12.04, privileges are granted to the "sudo" group, for consistency with upstream and Debian.  For compatibility, the "admin" group will continue to have access in 12.04.20:55
ubottuBut admingroup already means something else!20:55
tonyyarussoA smidge better.20:55
tonyyarusso!no, admingroup is <reply> Up through Ubuntu 11.10, administrator privileges using sudo was granted to the "admin" Unix group.  In Ubuntu 12.04, privileges are granted to the "sudo" group, for consistency with upstream and Debian.  For compatibility, the "admin" group will continue to have access in 12.04.20:55
ubottuI'll remember that tonyyarusso20:55
tonyyarusso!admingroup > LinuxMonkey20:55
MrChrisDruif!admingroup > MrChrisDruif20:56
ubottuMrChrisDruif, please see my private message20:56
AlanBellwe are doing a call for ops across the channels: http://ubottu.com/ircc/2012/05/04/call-for-irc-operators/20:56
MrChrisDruifI've just seen the email arrive, need to read it still ^_^20:57
tsimpsondo we really need that factoid?21:24
macohuh. good to know.21:25
macodo upgrades automatically copy everyone from admin to sudo?21:25
macocuz thatd be handy!21:25
tsimpsonit says that admin is also used in 12.04, so people don't have to do anything...21:25
macobut i assume a proper transition will happen at some point21:26
macoso copying them over for when admin is dropped in 12.10 or 13.04 or whatever.... handy21:26
tsimpsonI'd assume that'd be automagic21:27
tsimpsonso I still don't know what value it brings to add the factoid21:27
macoim hoping so21:27
tonyyarussotsimpson: Considering that I personally had a "What the hell?  Why isn't this working?" moment like two days ago due to the sudo change, I'm going to go with yes, it's a reasonable factoid.  ;)21:31
tsimpsonprobably more worth wile filing a bug ;)21:32
tsimpson*worthwhile21:32
tsimpsonif something breaks, and people have no idea why, it's an issue21:32
tonyyarussoAlthough, looking back at the issue I had, it appears the factoid isn't complete.21:33
tonyyarussoFrom what I can tell, *new* installs don't have an admin group at all, so I assume the backwards compatibility must only be for upgrades.  Can anyone confirm that?21:33
tonyyarusso(I tried to do 'adduser somebody admin' and got "group 'admin' does not exist")21:34
ubottuPaulmaster called the ops in #ubuntu (LinuxMonkey)23:31
mneptok17:07 < Paulmaster> i have question!!!23:35
mneptok17:24 < Paulmaster> i have question23:35
mneptokjrib: ^^^23:35
mneptokdunno if you /lastlogged23:36
mneptokaaaaaaaand nm23:36
jrib@btlogin23:37
jrib@help23:38
ubottu(help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.23:38
jrib!ubottu23:38
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots23:38
jrib@mark #ubuntu Paulmaster repeatedly says he has a question but never divulges what it is23:39
ubottuThe operation succeeded.23:39
jribthank you ubottu23:39
jribmneptok: yeah wasn't sure if it was reoccuring or a one time thing23:39
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